@@tmartinez1948 u know that basically everything in the "what the health" documentary was proven to be bullshit right? If u dont want to eat meat then dont, but stop spreading lies and vegan propaganda.
The weirdest thing about this subject which has always messed with my head, is that the very people who don't want definitions and labels placed upon them, are the ones who create definitions and labels for themselves and then impose them on everyone else to follow. And then, when those people don't follow those definitions and labels, the ones who have imposed them upon others get vehemently upset about it. I don't understand what that is. Does anyone? I mean really?
Kinda. I'll tell you about how I see that. I was a pretty troubled kid, was adopted into a pharmaceutical family wit a narcissist adoptive mother. Because I was different as a child, they saw this as a problem to 'fix' . Because it wasn't in line with their standards then then starts drugging me on many psychotropics to 'control' me. This is how society sees true critical thinking people. They're terrified. These people break down everything they though they knew. The discomfort then sets in. They then need to use labels to think that they understand what they can't understand. The labels are to justify to themselves 'what' this unknown entity is to them. In the case of these sjw identity politic types, it leans much more I believe toward an inward narcissism and sense of entitlement. The labels they make seem to be consistent with a misunderstanding or failure to understand, and a heightened individual need to... vilify and justify the ends of their thoughts, which have been much influenced by the propaganda bombardment of identity politics. We're basically seeing a war of minds. And it's exposing the bad in people also which is good to identify them.
@@Digitizeddragon Yeah that's true, I agree with you on that. It's a tribal mentality. It's the way we've always been as human beings. The closer knit our specific tribe is, the more protected we feel. Ironically, the more we keep splintering ourselves into these smaller and smaller groups the more we're going to start seeing other groups as the enemy, when in reality we all started off as the same group.
@@HTSGOSU Yeah, and you're calling me a "Cis male" so, that's a label you're using to marginalize me. see how that works? I don't have a label to describe myself, I'm just me. That's my entire point here.
The BIGGEST problem we have here is a narcissism problem which I believe was triggered by and is being catapulted by social media and greed. People feel so invisible and so insecure that they are jumping on any bandwagon to have a voice and feel like they are a part of something important. People need likes and shares like they need air. We are an incredibly insecure society that screams “we don’t need your validation” while simultaneously demanding everyones’ validation. We used to seek validation from people we cared about and people close to us. Now we seek validation from everyone and are hurt and offended when we dont get it. Its a mess.
100% agree! This is the age of Narcissism! Totally fed and fueled by social media. The narcissistic are the most easily offended, believe their feelings are facts, have low to no empathy for others, need constant outside validation and attention, and have the emotional maturity of a 5 yr old. Sadly some people will torture animals and post videos on RUclips just to get likes or subscribers. I sure hope I don’t have to reincarnate !
Totally agree. Tik tok is full of GeN Z's claiming to suffer from tourettes, ADHD, OCD, multiple personality disorder and to be on the non binary/transgender spectrum (whatever that is). Mental illness is the fad of this generation. A bunch of bratty narcissists screaming at us that we WILL accept their ideology and we will participate in their identity. We will validate their identity.
When I was a kid I played with my sister's Barbie dolls all the time. I'm glad that was 20+ years ago because now a days people would probably say I was trans and groom me into that psycho cult.
I used to collect broken Barbies, and 'modified' them them into an army of Frankenstienian/Borg/BDSM slaves. And because I was in my forties, there were no psych evals or awkward questions.
I collected little sticky pictures that you put in an album (idk what they're called in english) of Winx I also watched Winx and loved watching Tokyo Mew Mew, also watched Mermaid Melody Pichi Pichi Pitch sometimes Winx and Tokyo Mew Mew are the most girly cartoon and anime ever I'm not a trans woman or non binary or whatever, I'm just a 21 year old male, what I watched or liked doesn't change my gender Also I don't know what it means to feel like you are of a certain gender I don't feel like a man, I just am one I can feel happiness, sadness, anger, stomach ache, pain when I stub my toe, when I need to fart, but not gender
Lol yeah, I’d do the same, but first I’d take their clothes off and put them in my tonka truck and drive it around. Pretty sure I’d have been committed as a future predator.
I think shifting the focus on sex, gender and sexual orientation completely diverts the focus away from poverty, which is almost never represented in popular culture or politics any more. It also provides the illusion of freedom, that we can be who we want to be, while at the same time being constantly surveilled, having our data grabbed and sold, and our civil liberties eroded and with it our ability to protest, unionise, mobilise, not to mention the loss of free speech.
This is spot on. I've had these same thoughts but you explain them in the perfect way. They don't want people to realize what separates them is far different than what unify's them.
Not at all, it's a concern for anyone who recognises that a) theirs may be very different to those around them and b) there is a great danger if those people do not accept anything outside the norm. Not rocket science. Fortunately for the first world, a lot of progress has been made, in spite of the dum dums that we find congealing in youtube and facebook comments sections. In the third world however, the aforementioned concerns have far, far more serious implications in many cases. So not only was your (popular) comment retarded, it's also objectively incorrect.
As a 27-year-old woman, this trans movement did not bother me until I had a traumatic experience with a male identifying as woman storm a public shower on me. This was less than a year ago and I am still shaken to my core when I recall the incident. Now any man can identify as a woman and women are no longer safe in public restrooms, gym locker rooms, etc???
That’s similar to what I experienced. I didn’t care about men using women’s restrooms until I was in the first stall (naked from the waist down) and heard a man’s voice as he walked past and I felt terrified. My mind raced and thought things like what’s stopping him from looking through the cracks between the doors? What’s stopping him from barging in?
@@NoNoNoWellMaybe Sorry that happened to you and thanks for sharing. It’s important we share our stories to spread awareness and also speak up for yourself when you’re in those situations.
That is terrible. However, most women( including yourself) had NO problem when it started out as women going into our bathrooms. Women would tell us men to not complain, to mind OUR business, to suck it up...etc. Collectively the trendy women couldn't see a few miles down the road to the finish point. Until it arrives on one's doorstep.......
The best argument I've heard for sex being binary is: "100 years from now I could dig up your bones and test your DNA. It could never tell me what you think or how you feel, but it would tell me without a doubt whether you were male or female." Sex is chromosomal. Plain and simple.
Yeah but the trans issue is a gender issue not a sex issue. They way I understand it is that sex is determined by biological factors while gender is more of the role that the associated sex typically has in the species. So you can be male but act like a woman and that would qualify you as a woman but not a female.
@@theashennamedjerry3203 No. That would qualify you as a TRANS woman. Male & Female, Girl & Boy, Woman and Man. These terms were well defined and easily understood for hundreds of years until about 15 minutes ago when people decided that pretending to be something is the same as being that thing. Kindergarteners know the difference. You have to go to liberal arts college to "learn" that sex and gender are unrelated. Which is of course utter nonsense. If people want to pretend to be the opposite sex because it "feels right" to them. I don't judge. Whatever makes you happy, have at it. I'll even call you whatever you want. But I won't lie to myself or anyone else by saying a trans woman is a real woman. Because the truth is what it is. The more lies they can get you to tell, the easier you become to manipulate. "Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." -Voltaire
You are just wrong. People can have XXY, XYY, X, XXX, or other combinations of chromosomes. Those aren't males or females, they are sexually ambiguous. Please educate yourself.
@@mutexin Intersex is the exception that proves the rule. It's not all that difficult...unless you've been to college, then you become so "smart" that for some inexplicable reason you not only lose the ability use any common sense, but you find it offensive when anyone else does either. After all, you paid a shit ton of money to be taught not to think.
"one thousand years from now there'll be no guys or girls, just wankers" - Mark Renton, Trainspotting, 1996. not 30 years on and we're well on the way.
Fucking love trainspotting. Take me back to the 90s please. We had our problems but wonder sometimes that maybe the matrix got it right that it was the pinnacle of our society.
I was an unquestioned liberal, until the endless gender warping, denying of biology, pro-segregation CRT, anti-free speech, pro-censorship started taking over. Questioning, open discussion, and objectivity were banned so I hopped off the crazy train...
yup, feel exactly the same... its like if its not the far right making crazy shit then you can rely on the crazy far left to come and do something even worse.... i'm worried about humanity.
@@seankennedy1377 yes, in the end piece of mind, being honest with one's self and striving for objectivity is much more important than wholesale buying in to any strict political ideology and constant self-censorship.
As a young boy, I used to watch Jem and She-Ra. I had both the dolls. I played with my neighbor's Barbies because she didn't have Transformers. I also loved Spider-Man and Batman. I shudder to think what would've happened to me if I was born in the 2000's and not the 1980's. I'm glad I was allowed to be a kid without parents wondering about my gender.
I was a super tomboy at 14 because I hated my body. I hated my curves because they got me bullied so I dressed like a boy. I couldn’t imagine what people would assume in todays world.
Not sifting through but it’s not recent at all, theirs straight up ancient trans people and by no means is this shit new 💀 yall on a JR pod cast acting like you aint tripped acid or shrooms around a trans person b4
@@EmKayUltraProductions What are you on about? All I'm saying is I was allowed to be myself as a kid in the '90s, whereas if I were born after 2010, my parents and peers might have thought maybe I was trans because of my gender non-conforming interests.
The real question, Why do people define their entire existence on external social concepts that don't physically exist? Do they not have passions? Goals? Hobbies?
When I was a young child I told my parents that I wanted to be their daughter and not their son. I remember the reason that I felt this way was that I thought daughter sounded a lot like Dr. and I thought it would be cool to be a doctor. Thank God that was over 30 years ago and not today otherwise they’d probably have cut off my pecker
“Calling yourself non-binary categorizes everyone into binary or non-binary, creating a binary system which makes you binary again” ~ some random meme I saw.
And demonic. It's spiritual warfare and it's done on purpose to make us weak and confused. To make us question the most basic thing about ourselves, so that people gets easier manipulated.
proves a point to the communists countries, those people complaining about everything and being so ignorant, give away their power. Goverment will always be there to "help" with this kind of issues
Serious question: if gender is “fluid” as some put it, how can you identify outside of the gender you were born with without acknowledging predetermined stereotypes. What does it mean to feel like a boy? You enjoy doing “masculine” things? Okay, that doesn’t make you a male. That makes you a tomboy, which we always had as a society. Unhappiness comes when you don’t accept who you are and the circumstances of which you were born.
Good point, I never thought about this inherent irony regarding gender. I did regarding modern feminism, which tries to get women to behave and be like men (thereby being inherently anti-feminist regardless the name or self-proclamed goals)
@@wenlisman there isn’t a difference. Sex is if you are a boy or a girl. Gender goes more in depth on that. Meaning what you do as that gender in society or just something that only comes with that gender like pregnancies and periods. They are not different. If you feel like a boy, you are a tomboy. Not an actual male. If you feel like a girl, you are not a girl. You are a male. Stop trying to twist what’s already fact with your sick and wrong ideologies
Because we live in a vacuum. We need religion and the state to mix. Otherwise, something worse fills in the void. This is the problem with secularism, multicultralism, and liberalism (not like liberal v conservative)
I worked at Berklee College of Music in 1991.. we had a new student who had recently begun the transition to female. It came up in a staff meeting for 20 seconds, just as a heads up, and that was it. Literally no one was phased. She used the girls bathroom and since there was only one stall anyway, no one cared. That was 1991. In 2007 I was teaching in Phoenix and.. same thing. Again, no one was phased. Then all of a sudden in 2016 we were about to have all these new regulations where, for example, we weren’t allowed to use the students’ first names for the first two weeks - in case they happened to transition during the first two weeks and might get offended if we used the wrong name. Whaaaaa??? Whyyyy?? The transgender students I ever met don’t generally get offended. I think it was top down govt regulation.
Exactly. Most transgenders I know just want to live there life and be left alone. Yes they face discrimination and have a hard time accessing medical care sometimes which is important to remedy but most people are taking it way to far when no one asked for it.
All trans people I've met are literally so chill and nice, the media portraits them as crazy activists and neo liberals are so up their own ass trying to come off as progressive that they end up hurting the minority groups they try to protect with those kind of regulations.
theres definitely a ring leader deciding all of this, that gets handed to a group that implements these new regulations. this is a powerful entity as we are seeing this being blasted down our throats in academia, media, etc etc..I bet this ring leader is a man, or group of men. look up investigative journalist, Jennifer Bilek, she goes in deep on who is behind the trans agenda. There are original people part of the lgb who dont associate with what it has become now, this before they added the TQ, and they want the TQ removed, there is a different ringleader running that group now.
I honestly think Trans should have their own bathroom .Why ?..Even though I'm fine with trans people I'm not sure if I would want to see a naked trans woman who still has a penis..just makes people feel weird.What if your kids were in the bathroom ? It's something to think about.Some people are more modest than others...I don't understand why the Trans Agenda is being pushed so much. .That also seems odd since Transgenderism is only 1-2 % of the population. If you shove agendas down people's throats..whether Transgenderism,Equity a tricky word),Inclusion...these all take on a different vibe when it's shoved down our throats. It needs to stop.
"Gender, sex, race, sexual orientation" have one important thing in common - they ignore - "Class!" So of course the system through MSM will support the population talking about and arguing about these topics endlessly as this provides no threat whatsoever to oligarchy and entrenched power.
the left shifted away from classism when it became apparent that they could no longer align themselves with communism so blatantly. So it became about identity politics instead of class, even though class has a lot to do with the socioeconomic factors behind the issues that they blame solely on race/gender/orientation/etc.
@@joeberger3441 They are neo-liberal hypercaptalists who use marxist tactics of division and propaganda. Since highlighting the class warfare they are complicit in would just expose them for who they are, they use race as a means of dividing the lower classes while continuing to consolidate power. It's authoritarianism by any means, simple and plain.
Working in the mental health field has become so difficult for us who don’t go along with all these new ideas. We’ve been told to believe things that haven’t been proven to us. We have to hide our true thoughts and not use our hard-earned skills to help our patients, but instead affirm their ideas regardless of their comorbidities. I don’t feel like I can go further in a field that I have given my life to.
I'm from Asia and I'm in the process of becoming a doctor in America. The amount of LGBTQ concepts I had to learn for my US exams is nauseating. It made me wonder how and why the American educational and health system was too quick to embrace this gender ideologies that they literally come out on exams. I got 3 questions about LGBT concepts on my US exam, and they were about compelled speech (ie. preferred pronouns, name/dead name). It made me kinda chuckle how instead of testing me more on actual diseases they gave 3 points on preferred pronouns and those nonsense. It also felt like America was telling me "If you wanna work and live here, you better throw away your own principles and accept the trans agenda".
A guy once told me that gender is the sum of all your interests and attitudes, your own unique amalgamation of what makes you who you are. No dude, that's your personality
@Ra Shaan the key well-documented gender-defined personality traits of men and women are higher neuroticism and an interest in people over things. Of course there's more differences documented in our behaviour, which moreso tend to be context-specifc, but generally speaking, yeah - a lot of 'genders' are just labels of certain personality types. personality types are nothing new either, and the entire field of gender literature is very controversial as research requires approval before publication, so rallying trans activists inhibit the publication of research against the findings they agree with, which is pretty tyrannical.
@Ra Shaan moreover, the separation of gender and sex serves no real societal contribution. if gender is truly this entirely social construct, with no true ties to biology (although the LGBT community flips on this whenever they deem appropriate) then it's purpose has to be questioned. if it simply serves to further divide people and limit them, outlining what contributions they should and should not make, it's nothing short of discriminatory and segregating. the newly defined concept of gender promoting ideas of a 'spectrum' is utterly useless. all this would suggest is that we are each individually different to any extent: an idea which psychological literature already evidenced across several decades. tying gender into it seems to only serve the purpose of creating more labels for people to further divide themselves, and the socioethical implications of this can be pretty damning, considering how well it aligns with an early stage of a divide and conquer strategy.
Doesnt help that social media encourages people to have an outward facing identity, feels like lots of people needing acceptance or validation latch onto it as something to build their identity off. imo.
That's jordan peterson for you. Yeah, all this has nothing to do with the SIMPLE facts of human nature like - we judge people we dont know, we dont like being judged and we want to be popular. Simple, basic, even childish urges have been elevated to unreal levels by people.
Exactly this. I hope it’s obvious to others. Divide and conquer. Gender, race, religion, white hate, Asian hate, identity politics - all methods to divide. United we stand, divided we fall.
Right, notice how everyone has forgotten about class issues. All corporations have jumped on board with BLM and LGBT, but if there was a movement of unionizing workers, they would shut it down immediately. Identity politics have been used throughout history as a post-structuralist analysis to quell criticisms of capitalism. That's what you see happening right now. Class is the root of all legitimate identity concerns. Focusing on the interpersonal dynamics of working class people distracts us from dismantling the ruling class.
My undergrad is biology. I also felt this complete conflation between gender and sex - even by some biology professors. It was astonishing. It’s like gender is fluid and is felt, ok fine. But why the SEX change then??? And they are insisting on being called their gender. But humans don’t see gender, they see sex because that is the biological reality. And one more thing, besides intersex being very rare, individuals almost always predominately present as closest to one sex or the other. Unfortunately, a burden of these conditions is infertility in most cases! It’s not really a sex - it is Intersex.. like the definition. They are trying to disregard definitions exactly because they have adopted postmodernism to the extreme, as the video pointed out. Doesn’t change the reality of the world.
They would probably say that logic, deductive and inductive reasoning are sociological constructions of the western patriarchy, expressly rationalised to provide power to old white men. You aren't talking to a rational actor at that point.
+Calvin Tower You don't seem to be paying attention in classes. The consensus in Biology is NOT to conflate gender and sex. How can people see sex? The concept is nonsensical. Can you see chromosomes? Why is self-presentation so vastly different according to gender norms if we just see the impossible to see underlying biology? Have you tried expressing your ideas in a way that isn't completely contradictory and inane? You might do better in all of your courses.
If you see a transitioned transwoman on the street and she looks like every other woman, you would see a woman though, which means you do see gender. You gender people all the time without realizing it, if you see someone who doesn't look completely like a man or a woman, you take a moment to let your brain decide which gender they appear to express themselves as. You don't go digging around their genitals. It's dishonest to say that people don't see gender, you certainly notice when people don't fit into the "norms" of their gender. If you only saw sex, you wouldn't notice gender norms and expressions.
@@lawrenceharold8599 and yet the lgbtqxyz world DOES conflate gender with sex while claiming that gender and sex are different, you brainlet. That's the point.
I remember everything Colin Wright is talking about. I saw the rise and fall of the Atheist and sceptic community on RUclips back then. This whole thing is really surreal to me. I'm trans and knew I was before I even heard about the idea of "trans" as people know it now; it's just the best description I can find. I grew up in the 90s and for me it had nothing to do with all this anarcho-communist post-modern woke crazy stuff. When we were all talking about it in early RUclips, the people who were the "weird tran****", we had a very STRICT difference in our perception and definition of sex and gender. I'll put forth this idea on how that changed: I think it was lost when a new generation of kids came about and into the world where people were talking about trans issues on RUclips. I think that they heard the terms "sex" and "gender" being used and they didn't make any difference between the definition of the two as we used to do. I think it's literally because they were young. Three things I really wish the "trans community" (if there even is one) pushed harder on are: 1) These things are not reversible! (activists started lying and saying that transition was "fully reversible") 2) We should've pushed hard against when the distinction between sex and gender started happening. 3) It's not like "just a choice" as anything else is. People started calling us "Truscum", (us who said that it was all about dealing with gender-dysphoria and that people shouldn't transition unless they really had to and there was no other way for them and they wanted to basically de-alive their person.) - We should've really pushed harder against that. I think one of the main reasons we didn't push harder against those three things is because we started to grow up, and life started to get busy... we didn't have time to sit around on the internet all day, but the "new kids" did, so they took lead over us. Literally, none of this was about ideology for us at all. These kids seem to be in some sort of crazy trend and I feel so sorry for them. They will literally GIVE themselves gender-dysphoria and it's hell.
Yeah, it's amazing when you have two people who are basically in agreement with each other and like each other how easy conversations are. The problem is within five minutes the guest has badly misrepresented what happened with Rebecca Watson, which is an indication of the pathetic nature of these two in general. A guy follows her out of a bar onto an elevator to get her alone, making her feel very uncomfortable very late in the evening after she'd been drinking. She makes a video stating as much which is impossible to fathom as a bid deal and then we went through years of harassment and hate aimed at her., with to this day, idiots like this fool in the video blaming her for an incident which no one would remember had a bunch of trash atheist trolls not blown it up and harassed her for years. That behavior destroyed the scene, as few women would take the risk of the that level of harassment for simply stating a guy made her feel uncomfortable by following her out of a bar to get her alone late in the evening. And why would somebody like me hang around to spend time with that sort of trash? I guess it's easy when you're prevarications and outright falsities aren't called out to have a "rational" conversation among two people who already agree with each other. So, yeah preach away as the other commenter said, a hilarious admission that you all are only talking to yourselves in your safe spaces.
The way it’s being used at the moment, sure. Imagine if it was used for a genuinely benevolent purpose, instead of a moneymaking machine. The good it could accomplish using the collective intelligence of all connected to it.
A few years ago I started a new job and got called into HR after a few months for having an argument with a lady at work, and I was told my transphobic attitude needed to change. Turns out, she was actually a man. I had no idea, she looked like the real McCoy. That didn't stop them from giving me a written warning though. I didn't even hand in my notice, I just never went back. I can't play by these new rules, they're ridiculous and inhuman, bizarre and cruel. A lose lose situation every time unless you shave your head or dye your hair blue.
@@slabbulkhead69to conclude in absolutes is irrational. It's not black and white. That's also dysfunctional. People make mistakes. That's life. To stay married and not admit to oneself the relationship isn't healthy for the children and/or oneself is just plain irrational.
For at least 18 years they have been told that they are special, can be whatever, become whatever and have whatever they want if they just believed. The parents of these people were too frightened to tell their children truth. Honest truth. Every child nowdays never loses, is always highly talented and their true potential is ignored, because for some reason all of them are now polymaths. It's no surprise that the ones who were born in economically better situations don't know what the real world is like growing up. Protected from everything and anything, only for their child not to feel sad. If something didn't work out, it was never their fault. And now they're all virtue-whoring on social media with no sense of reality. Mental
I'd like to politely disagree with your comment saying "It's no surprise that the ones who were born in economically better situations don't know what the real world is like growing up. Protected from everything and anything" I don't think it's fair to say that people of my generation don't know what the real world is like, I'd actually argue that we know a lot more about the real world than any generation before us, mostly due to the internet being around when we grew up and the debt crisis's that we are burdened with atm, However, I'd just say that I 'personally' think a lot of these problems might have come from the rampant "helicopter parenting" that we were exposed to, I'd say the way you teach people when their very young can severely effect them when they become adults and THE LACK to certain stimuli has probably done a lot of this. You can grow up in a perfect world but still be strong, I've seen it, people in their twenties juggling work, social and family life with insane debt and low pay but still soldiering on, being people. I'd argue that every generation had a problem like this, it's just different now because we use different methods.
I'd like to add that what is happening riggt now in the US is a combination of everything you and OP mentioned. A mollycoddled generation exposed to severe economic duress with near absolute cultural inability to endure that stress leads to outbursts that being said as the boomer generation retires this decade the ones making the noise will be incharge, they will learn, in one way shape or form they will learn how the world works and why the way it is so.
...and who HANDED OUT those participation trophies? Boomers. Every generation is ignorant in some capacity, but to call millenials and gen Z ignorant and priviledged makes no sense. I'm european, but it's common knowledge that in America the cost of living and education has sky rocked while salaries have stagnated.
"Most of the trouble in this world has been caused by folks who can't mind their own business , because they have no business of their own to mind , anymore than a small pox virus has." William S.Burroughs
Thats BS if people simply minded their own bussiness many atrocities would never come to light. On that note whats happening in the world is everyones bussiness and everyone has the right to participate because it affects ALL of us.
@@vanessaboneta9878 ...problem is that goes both ways, yes some of the worlds nastiness can be exposed for all to see...but at the same time, stupid shit around the world also can be put out there...and I think that's what is happening in the context of this video (and others like it)...think of all the nonsense that would have rarely been given a second though...BS can now be spread on a global level without a filter or second thought...
@@vanessaboneta9878 having two generations learn almost nothing in school then go off to college and maybe learn a valuable skill that is able to support them, get in severe debt and be unable to move out and start a family of their own stunts maturity and gives people a lot of time to focus on non sense instead of focusing on real problems imo
I am currently a student at the University of Illinois at Chicago. My Major is Public Policy. In one of my classes, I was told that biological sex is indeed on a spectrum. It's getting really bad out here. Send Help.
That is perhaps a bad metaphor, but what could be said is biological sex has exceptions to the norm XXY or XY47 or XYY etc are in fact exceptions to biological sex.
Yes, fewspecific exceptions exist to the XY and XX. The biological sex spectrum doesn't. You can say there are a 1000 shades or even an infinite number of shades in a rainbow. There is no infinite spectrum of XX. Or XY.
Its not a spectrum, DSDs or differences of sexual development exist but the human race only exists because of XX and XY. Humans are born with a variety of numbers of fingers and thumbs due to various genetic, mechancial and biological reasons, for example, but humans have 10 digits @matthewkopp2391
@@matthewkopp2391 Not really. For example, someone with XXY chromosomes (Kleinfelter's syndrome) has a chromosomal abnormality that causes issues with development, fertility, hormone levels, musculature, etc, but they're still male.
the entitlement within the SJW movement is truely stunning. I use to push against people who said 'young people are entitled these days' but I was wrong and its fucking out of control. Im a guy, dude, whatever you wanna call me, and in highschool I was in bands. I had loong hair and wore skinny jeans (makes you a better musician lol). I was 'misgendered' so many times, and a lot of times on purpose. Was called a girl, chick, all kinds of things, and most of the time it was used as an insult. And guess what, I didn't give a single fuck. I knew who I was.
The obsession with gender goes right back to the 1960's with the second wave of feminism. Gender theory was started by feminists, then it evolved and was adopted by the LGBT activists.
“Today, on: missing the point entirely.” Have some empathy. Nobody is “entitled” for demanding respect. Everyone deserves respect and it doesn't cost you a dime to give it.
@@isaackopstein3367 nobody is owed anything that is supposed to be earned. leftist and blm believe they are entitled to things because they are professional victims. Their entire cause is based on bullshit lies.
As a biologist he was willing to “let them have that.” That’s the problem with these slippery slopes. It applies to every human sciences topic. People are stupid and selfish and we have to have principles in academia.
Moral relativism is Satan‘s favorite weapon, because Godless people arrogantly anoint themselves a god so they can determine what they think is right or wrong, which is obviously subjective and not based in objective truth… a dangerous path for a society to take-i.e. see the Roman Empire.
I want to clarify that I’m personally not a biologist. I’m referring to this biologist’s quote in the clip. He clearly didn’t read “If you give a mouse a cookie” when he was a kid.
I love the part where they talk about the discrimination in sports. It's not because you're trans that you can't participate. That can be nothing more than a state of mind or mood in some instances, or if anything more of a psychological and possibly hormonal issue. The problem is that you're biologically a distinct gender, which is discriminated against when it comes to sports because of natural advantages and disadvantages that come with either being male or female. It's not some ploy to invalidate you as a person or demean you in any way, but to preserve the competitiveness and integrity of the games. It's just not fair for someone is biologically male to compete against women in certain sports because of the differences is size, strength, muscle mass, bone density etc.
TrAnS SpoRTS ToPIc iS NoT eVeN a BiG dEaL, as some would say. Yeah tell that to the trans wrestler that dominated the entire women's league. Total level playing field
thats a fact,of course theres only one instance recorded where that was attempted, fight wing propaganda would have you thinking its being done fairly often,because it fits the (your way of life is being stolen from you narrative)
If I have to hear another butthurt dude hide their own phobias around gender and sex behind this idiotic sports example, I’m going to light the internet on fire. Why not have a trans person or a non binary person on the show to talk about this?? Us cis men should just step aside and just ask how we can respect people’s gender identities and support them as fellow human beings
@@juliankindermann idk who you talking about with butthurt and phobias, but do you not see an unfair advantage to someone who's biologically male or female competing on a team comprised of the opposite biological sex? That whole tactic of applying the label transphobic or bigoted, toxic masculinity, etc is played out af. Trans people can identify however they want, but there are biological differences between the sexes idk how that's so problematic.
@@sparkfx5874 The Question is often, what is a Biological Male and what is a Biological Female. Because a Trans Women are Women and not because they want it, same for Trans Man. Most Trans people Transition with HRT(Hormon Replacement Therapy), after a while they have the same Hormonal Household than Cis People. And Hormones change a lot and change our bodies to our Gender we persive ourself with. I have a friend who is a Cis Male, but dosen´t produce enough Testosterone by himself. Which caused him to feel out of touch and couldn´t see himself like a real Man, even though he is Cis. After getting Regular Testosterone Injections he could finally feel more aligned with himself and his Body, what also Trans people feel after a while. And what I find mostly funny about the whole Trans women can not compete in Womens sport because of Biological Adventages, is that it implies they have to compete with man in Sport and Trans Man have to Compete with With Cis Womens. So you have Trans Mans that have the Hormonal advantages of a Cis Man, that have to Compete with Cis Women. Sounds like really fair play /s
I've been telling people that I'm bi and it's really the whole LGBT movement that has kept me from doing it sooner. I don't want a party, I don't want to be brave (I'm not, no one has been mean and I'll survive if they are), I don't want it to be a big deal. I feel like I'm just telling my friends and family for the sake of them knowing and nothing else. I didn't even want to post this comment but I feel like there aren't enough people like me calling this shit out. Everyone I know just treats me like a person exactly as they did before I told them, that's all I want. It's the people who tell me I'm some special case that make me feel like shit and who try to convince me that others will never accept me just because they don't share every attraction or desire I have. I feel like they have a monopoly on my sexuality and I just want them to take their banners, flags, medals, and awards and fuck off from my general presence.
+Ragnarok Neato. You have a perspective and apparently a lot of privilege. Others have perspectives as well but suffer bullying, harassment, and relentless torment. Not all perspectives agree. Welcome to humanity.
@@lawrenceharold8599 What is my apparent privilege in this scenario. Do you really think you know enough about my life to assume that from a single comment? Perhaps perspectives don't line up because many people are unaware that they are making nescient claims.
I really don`t care what someone`s sexual orientation is. I do care if they are nice and kind. I do not want to know what straight people do in their bedroom and likewise I don`t want to know what anyone else does. I just feel like it should be a non issue.
Same. Im technically pansexual queer.....but thats some shit they told me i was. Despite it being a gray area thats evolving along with my personal growth. Everyone has gone mad. Critical thinking is gone. Compromise is seen as weakness.
There was an interview where a girl was online, on a pic app. and she was explaining how when she was a teen she was talked into questioning her gender based on simple things like; if you don’t like the way your voice sounds in a recording you might not be the right gender, if you don’t feel comfortable in your body it might be a gender problem. She is now older and likes being a female and wants to save other kids from getting confused.
Its quite predatory. Literally no one like the sound of their voice on a recording and ALL young people/people feel uncomfortable in their bodies at some point. ESPECIALLY when we have media/social media/ ads that intend to make them feel uncomfortable about some aspect of themselves. We live in a society of constant self judgment - so that some company can come in and sell you the solution to your woe. Seems like its orchestrated this way on purpose.
Thank god we have guys like Joe who have the balls to ask these types of questions, all while being completely aware of how many people he influences. It seems like he’s the last line of defense for sanity these days
You are blinded by your admiration or love of his celebrity. He has flipped on a few subjects and also just does not cover certain points or even express his true views on subjects because he would be sanctioned like a Russian by RUclips and so many other big sponsors or some groups who support his stances. IWe should be allowed to speak freely as we are meant to and are told "Oh we have freedom of speech in the West". You only have freedom of speech and a voice if your speech and views go along with the narrative and the stance of the elites who control most everything.
He even had a show with Blair White, and he was totally cool with her. They mostly talked about DMT, not even gender related debates. ANYONE can push any agenda there is that CAN be pushed, and some think its their duty to do just that. :( Joe doesn't push. He discusses stuff. He Cool :)
As a philosophy major, I'm not gonna lie... I find the gender debate incredibly annoying. Like for fuck sake- we're really Arguing over something that was ounce considered common sense? 🤦♀️ Gender desporia is real but it's a very small percentage of the population that genuinely struggle with it. So many people jumping on the badwagon..
In many native ways, two spirit is just normal. Nobody is shamed or killed for being different from what a book about talking animals say. But we see what the sky daddy and zombie son worshippers did to them...
Your right. These kids have heard about the days when Gays were persecuted and beaten up by skinheads and they want those times to be here now. Much to their dismay those days are long gone.
@@marketingIdeaslol most people need a battle for a sense of purpose… some chase money or success or bettering themselves, some chase sex, and others chase tearing down the social norms or accomplishment of those in the past
@@TurtleChad1 The boogie man is widespread racism, or sexism, or any kind of bigotry. There is so little of it they have to over-hype every incident in the media to scare people into believing it's still bigger than it is. #stopasianhate for example. One instance of some Asian women being shot is a horrible tragedy that should have never happened, but it's not part of a widespread trend in asian hatred, and the transparent attempt to turn all Asians into victims to be incorporated into the victimhood political caucus is pathetic, evil and highly calculated.
97% of people click on the news articles referring to the noise those 3% are making, so they keeping making more content….. we quit clicking, they stop talking about it
right wingers spend so much time bullying the trans community same with the gay community and the black community and the jewish community and the muslim community and the asian community...
I used to never really care and let other do what they want until they tried to force such things on me and dictate to me my sexuality and gender. If they tried this on me they have done this to others subliminally or forcefully. Enough is enough of their nonsense. I see their tactics now. The debauchery and chaos we have had to endure will now end.
Do you live in Iran??? I've never seen anyone forcing any of this. Dictate? WTAF? I'd bet that there is not a single person in your whole life who does anything of the sort. WTAF and SMH all day long...
You say "if they tried 'this'" on me.... who's "they?" what is "this?") immediately after you said they (actually) *tried* to force and dictate to you your sexuality and gender. Is that anything like the moon causing the sun to melt?" -- "They" who dictate gender are parents and people who "think?" like you BEFORE one is even born. HALLO!! REALITY CHECK.
Historically, I’ve thought the “slippery slope” was a weak approach to debate, but it’s crazy how quickly people prime the hill with grease. The fringes are already leaning in: “transracial” and “non-offending pedophiles” coming to mind.
Yup people dont believe that idea until it really starts unfolding in front of them. You give someone an inch they will go a mile. It's not just this discussion on gender. Personal choice, health rights, gun ownership, there needs to be a static line and no grey area
There's been Ted talks on that very issue years ago. The very same argument used by the LGBTQ community: Why should my love be a crime just because it's different. The hill isn't just greased, we're already sliding down.
Well I'm not using it as an argument, more of an illustration. My argument would be that not all love is equal nor valid, therefore should not be equally protected. For example, the love a parent exudes towards their child is not the same a boyfriend or girlfriend would give. Similarly, someone may love all dogs but the love for their own dog is different. Lastly, one could love to inflict pain on themselves or others, doesn't mean it should then be permissible.
Slippery slope is a logical fallacy in that just because one thing happens doesn't AUTOMATICALLY mean that the next thing will happen. However in real life and in political issues there are groups with agendas who are looking to push things in an extreme direction and it's part of their process to start small and gradually mission creep outwards. So, it's a logical fallacy, but it's also exactly what happens in real world social situations.
My son runaway from home after being brainwashed by several of his gay friends. He lived with a family that accused me of abusing him by not allowing him to transition. He transitioned at age 14 and this family paid for breast implants. To make a long story short, he finally came home at 16 years of age. After a year of deep reflection and support he came to deeply regret transitioning. He basically said it was due to peer pressure and insecurity, he's not even gay. I paid to have his breasts removed but not much else can be done. He struggles with depression due imbalances in his hormones. He's sterile for life and can't achieve erections. It's ruined his life and basically destroyed our family. As the pressure caused a divorce and my other son holds his younger brother accountable. This needs to stop
You need to find those people who convinced him to do it and have them charged. Or killed. Either one lol. But they definitely deserve some repurcussions for ruining your kids life. I hope he can find a way out of this
@@a1x2y3z4 oh I'm making that up am i? Ok well tell me how im making it up and I'll provide answers with backed up evidence. Im waiting.... Btw I bet you don't apologise
Your child didnt deserve this. Any person has equal rights to be what they want to be. As non binary myself i feel like your son was definitely peer pressured to transition and felt real gender dysphoria after that. They probably could have had a better situation if they gave you a second to talk about the later results of transitioning while avoiding the bad influence which was forced by their friends
that is one of the many reasons why we need to teach about LGBTQIA+ in schools and for the community to have more visibility. so children can make educated decisions about their lives and not being influenced by random people.
When I was a 15 "unattractive" teenager in the 80s, I coped by either joining the punk rockers wearing black clothes and giving the middle finger to the system, and later by joining hippies wearing loose clothes saying that what matters is the spiritual. If I were 15 in 2022, I'd have my "imperfect" boobs removed, colouring my "ugly" hair blue, and calling myself trans. It's that simple.
@@ryankelly369 maybe you've got bad memory. I got kicked out of home (and many of my mates) for being punk. Oh and the hippies, even worse. We were all rejected by our families and schools.
Went to law school with some people that held a variety of positions on issues. Legalize marijuana, gay rights, white supremacy, list goes on. The problem with activists is they tend to base every aspect of their life on that little tiny issue that most people spend a small fraction of their time thinking or worrying about. To an activist, every conversation has to center on that one thing and really just want an argument to prove that you're racist or whatever. Even changing the subject offends them so deeply that every one in your family tree is part of the problem and somehow evil. It's not good enough to never do anything racist, or sexist, or homophobic, or say yeah I respect your opinion, you have to match their level of passion on a subject. I'll take climate change for example. I'm a bit of an environmentalist, I love to scuba and during my lifetime I have been to a reef or a place when I was far younger and second time sometimes decades later gone back to the same place and have seen noticeable and significant decline. I find that sad and disturbing, something must be going on. But turns out overfishing has messed up the food chain so badly that it trickles down to coral reefs, etc. Sure carbon emissions play a part but it's fractional compared to fishing practices in my opinion. However, you have to so badly hate human produced pollution that you are willing to endure wars, genocide, bankrupt people who can't afford an electric car or put gas in their tank to meet their expectation. Anything lower than that you are not just stupid but the absolute enemy.
Americans have really lost their minds. In the 30 years I’ve lived in the US I’ve witnessed this fascinating phenomenon of people getting so entrenched in their beliefs that they completely lose touch with reality. It’s quite entertaining but in a very disturbing way.
Its not fascinating, its not entertaining, its horrifying. Its intellectual barbarism. Those cops down in Atlanta got charged with murder by the far left DA for doing their job exactly as they'd been trained. Other far left DAs have dismissed charges on violent criminals on purely partisan political grounds. The FBIs being blatantly used as political police for the democrat party. Decent, clear thinking people should be horrified by all this and quietly planning things to do about it.
Alan Watts used to talk of people that think to much losing touch with reality because if all you ever do I'd think then all you have to think about is thoughts. This was the point of meditation in his view, a way to get back in touch with what's actually happening around you.
I do not agree, think about: think about racism, poverty, Corruption of powerful governments, crimes... the list can go on and on and blaming it all on something a little like "RUclips" is major deflection of the actual cause and root of such problems into other things that, yes, might affect it and to a certain extent too but also vice-versa so a equilibrium like thing should happen right? well no because the main source of these problems is not that.
@@abudielzein4841 I understand your point but I do think that social media is the biggest cause of all of this, not saying that there aren’t other things causing it as well
@@abudielzein4841 RUclips is hardly the issue, and is t social media. Tik tok and other actual social media has been psychologically shown to alter kids personalities to the point where kids actually develop habits and even involuntary behavior including tics, from overexposure to short form content on social media. The societal pressure from Twitter, and other SM platforms can absolutely change a child’s opinions and values in a way that’s consistent with the overarching social narrative. It’s really hard for parents to overcome that kind of influence.
It's social media but computers in general. Video games for instance when not moderated can let you escape the world and let's you not pursue relationships if you so choose. The common man can not moderate their technology use. Me included and i feel better than most
It all stems from people being obsessed with attention from their social media addiction. People will cry and make themselves a victim to get more attention even if makes themselves look like a fool. The sad part of it really is that it's accepted and actually pushed in society to not have a back bone so that people are easily controllable.
On the nose! It's why people get angry and "offended" if you actually try to help and advise them over the internet. Despite complaining about how terrible life is, they don't actually want help, since then they'll no longer be able to complain about it for attention. Freaking upside down world we live in.
The SJW movement started long before elevator-gate. It goes right back to the 90's, even mainstream media started pushing it in the 90's. It started with the feminist movement, then was adapted for LGBT then most recently African Americans. They all use similar themes and methods, and they are now a power bloc under the Democrats. It started when the democrats sold out the working class, they needed something to stay relevant, a platform, and social justice was born. They realized early on that accusing others of sexism/racism was very effective at shutting people up and destroying opponents. This is why social justice has become so extreme and radical today.
It's more so that our generation thinks their life is a story worth telling, when in reality there are tons of people who came before you and more to come
I think it’s discussed so much because it’s affects kids, which ultimately affects society, and also is about determination of REALITY. Like how do we determine what is real?
In the words of Chris Rock: "Whatever happened to crazy? People can't be crazy no more?!" So glad I'm antisocial and don't like people. They can all stay away 😂
Except they've literally taken down tons of his episodes. Rogan hasn't had on anyone that is actually challenging the zeitgeist since his move to Spotify. They are all just pro-diversity Conservatives.
@@zap3003 they didn’t take them down…they never ported them over. If Joe liked the guest and Spotify did not, they’re on Joe’s RUclips. I.e., this confirms what Joe’s said in the past, which is there are some people he had on long ago he regrets. He had Alex Jones on under the new contract. And no matter your opinion, Joe just collected full freedom money (well over the 100 mil reported) to eventually get his show back off the Spotify license to truly be untouchable.
@@jfritch1446 That aint drunk buddy. Thats high, short loss of memory yet surprisingly accurate thinking patterns. "like a bouty hunter" is defs a high sentence, you'd have to be extra drunk to come up with this one.
Rogan is on a roll and his tremendous courage lending his platform to the counterculture (or "culture" prior to the emergence of critical theory) should be commended and supported. Bravo Rogan; stay sane and independent.
@@iLLWiLLTheMiCK no, being independent typically involves opposing mainstream narrative and doing your own research. When all of your political and social beliefs fall in line with every major corporation, big tech, big pharma, and every MSM news source chances are you are not independent.
@@iLLWiLLTheMiCK Not really. There are things I don't agree with but I think showing all angles is ultimately helpful and the discourse from traditional media is nothing but one-sided.
I can't believe that I'm reminiscing about the old days when we internalized and repressed our psychological issues. I thought everything would be better once things got out into the open; sunlight as the disinfectant and so forth. Instead the suicide rate skyrocketed and we've all gone insane lol!
It got compartmentalised as gender. If it sounds ridiculous it's cos it is, but if youve been watching Tumblr since its inception like me, you know this is just regular old teen complexities and angst - for some reason turned explicitly into a sexual thing. Now I hate slippery slope fallacies as much aas the next anarchist, but... 😁
Yeah, it's therapy spilled out into the wider world. The point of therapy though is to open up all your traumas in an actual 'safe space' so that you can work through it and not have it spill out in the world. Last part got forgotten somewhere along the way.
The demand that you must conform to someone else's constantly changing identity to remain an accepted member of society is a child's game. It reminds me of three year olds who are infamous for demanding to control the big people in their lives or suffer montrous tantrums. Then it evolved into a competition where the only way the participants can gain any attention (going viral) is to find some new person, word, obscure historical fact, photo to get offended over. Carried to the extreme, they get offended by things people MIGHT say or do. Next comes the inevitable mob jumping on an unending list of new offense sthat must be obliterated. Pursued to its inevitable end they will find a gray, angry world that is void of the diversity they tout so loudly.
@@christheghostwriter To quote Alan Greenspan: " I know you think you understand what you thought I said but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant" Let's wish each other well and agree to disagree, OK?
People in Ukraine aren't currently concerned with gender identity as they've got bigger things to worry about. Really speaks volumes as to how far we've come as a species. You don't have time to nitpick about the words others use when you don't know where your next meal is coming from or if you'll survive the night.
Not "as a species"-as a culture! Should a doctor help a woman with anorexia find an excellent liposuction clinic so she will finally feel good about the body she is trapped in? If not, why not? Is an elective mastectomy much different?
@@glenliesegang8935 why is everybody talking beind trapped in a body? Wtf is wrong with people, how can one be trapped in their own loving body? The "crimes" against body and life energy are getting out of control
One thing that bothers me about that Watson girl and people like her is they seem to be under the false impression that adult human beings are not sexual objects, or at least they can pick and choose when it suits them. That's not how sexuality works. You don't get to decide other people's attractions. Imagine being so egotistical, that you demand that whole societies becomes asexual at your mood and whim! No-one deserves to be harassed. But a first approach is interaction, not harassment. Therefore she was never harassed by anything but her own psyche.
Objectification.. wtf does it even mean. Just being attracted to someone apparently, and that swings both ways so i guess we're going extinct pretty soon!
You have to be a woman to understand why it is frightening to be alone with a man in a confined space and having that man making you advances. And if you don't get it, maybe imagine that woman in the lift is your wife, girlfriend, sister, daughter.
@@Marie-ex8nh a lot men have stopped even talking to women now. There are too many risks if the the other party decides to accuse you of something and ruin your life. If being in a lift with a man is frightening, that is you projecting your fear because that man, having done nothing wrong, is made out to be a predator in your mind
@@knoaf9092 - Exactly. Someone’s fears and anxieties are not reality. I can imagine all kinds of things that might happen but never do. Women don’t have the burden of having to make the first move. They can sit back, wait for approaches, and be picky. If it wasn’t the chad they were dreaming of, they get to nuke him on social media. Meanwhile the poor guy who was testing the water to see if anything was there gets absolutely nuked for putting himself out there and taking a chance. I’d like to see situations reversed and for a whole year, it’s up to females to make all of the first approaches and guys get to sit back and be picky. Women would quickly learn how tough it is to face rejection, even when you have the best intentions. Besides, Men have many good reasons to fear women. Spend a few days around family court to realize what a horror show it is to be a male and be stupid enough to have married the wrong woman. The mental damage will last a lifetime and leads many to suicide. But who cares ... it’s just a man, right? Right.
@@Marie-ex8nh I’m a woman, I don’t get it, it’s called human interaction, if he continued to pursue her, you may have a case but stop making up intimidation, it’s not only absolute nonsense but it takes away from the plight of women who are genuinely intimidated and harassed
Such as? What does a trans person who wants to live their life the way they want, how is that taking freedoms away? Look at the laws being passed by GOP and conservative dems. then come back and tell me.
@@Tecolote41 That isn't what was passed. Misgendering trans people can get them beaten or killed. Cry me a river on your so called "freedom" of speech.
@@Tecolote41 Stop sheeping for Rogan and Peterson. Here is from the actual law. This is what is in it. If you don't harass trans people, then you have no problem. www.cbc.ca/cbcdocspov/features/canadas-gender-identity-rights-bill-c-16-explained
I’ll tell you why it’s a thing today Joe. Because there hasn’t been enough push back on it until recently. People are starting to realize that if you give these people an inch, they’ll take 100 miles. So the nonsense never ends.
Actually because people are more comfortable discussing it. It's always been out there. People just couldn't say anything because it made people feel uncomfortable. Some things are uncomfortable to discuss and it doesn't mean we should ignore it.
@@hidiapol5617 Whose ready to have the conversation about the teenager with both sexual organs who has always been thought of as a boy. Until puberty hit and it became obvious to the parents that they were a girl. Who has always played sports with the boys. This country can't handle that discussion.
@@xq8152 ohhhhhh he called you woke... thems fighting words right there. you just gonna take that ? Seriously, people that use woke as an insult are morons
I’ve noticed a lot of people now also like to identify themselves as their health conditions. Some people keep searching for something that a doctor diagnosed and then latch onto it like it’s all they are. Life is suffering, you will always feel like shit. It’s called being human.
I’ve only noticed this recently, after seeing people calling themselves “long-haulers” if they’ve had COVID for an extended period of time; it’s trauma bonding but in the most unnecessary way. Why cling to illness, why make it a permanent part of your identity?
More like people have always been different but in the old days if you said you were a different gender they just murdered you. People are trying to normalize it so those people can live without fear. Transgenders have existed since the dawn of humanity. Internet is just allowing them to live. This scares the oppressed. The right wing is afraid of anything different. Because when it comes to religions like christianity, nothing worse than being different.
I think it's mainly the fault of the parents for not taking a larger interest in their children's education. Public schools have become more and more culturally Marxist over the last 3 generations. They are indoctrination camps, nothing more.. Yuri Bezmenov tried to warn us.
@Reservoir Frogs By what metric could you possibly use to justify this statement? I'm a classical liberal and find almost no part of the democrat's policies in alignment with my views. What happened to the Blue Dog Democrats? They've gone the way of the dodo and in their place a seething angry mob of far left imbeciles (AOC being their ringleader) who push identity politics and victim hood to secure power for themselves.
I am a retired biologist and I can not understand how anyone can not realize there are two genders you are born one or the other and it can not be changed.
The greatest upward transfer of wealth in history. Whatever woke idiots are calling themselves these days they all agree with the tenet that society is inherently racist and must be torn down and reformed. Do you really think if they were anything but a bunch of clowns with no chance of ever achieving anything, that they would be welcomed in the Ivy Leagues and in big business? They're embraced because they can't do anything to anybody who matters or any institutiom that matters, and never will.
wtf, men and women aren't the same creature though.....having those categories divided.......well, seems like a LOT of our problems were solved by it in the past lol ya'll just think everything our own ancestors did was evil HAHAH
Birds of a feather stick together. To advocate against this and make people force themselves to be around others that given the choice they would avoid only causes more hostility.
It's a bunch of soft middle and upper-class first-worlders that never have to deal with any ACTUAL adversity, so they create fake problems to then "struggle" with. None of these people have ever worked a hard job in their lives.
I could totally understand the situation. I had a similar experience, I was abroad, staying in an apartment(airbnb), and as I was waiting for the elevator, this guy who looked around mid-40ish to early 50 started a conversation saying that he is separated from his wife and moved to this apartment. He asked me if I wanted to come over. No hello, or proper introduction, or small talk at all. I was 26 at the time. Even though we weren't in the elevator, it was more than enough to get scared and, to be honest, creeped out. I smiled and politely declined. The elevator came and he asked me why I wasn't getting on, and I acted like I got a phone call and told him I was gonna take the next one. The guy in the video says the man didn't do anything and was polite, but I don't think he fully understand how scary the situation could turn out. To be pursued in small tight, isolated place? I highly discourage anyone to do that.
I am a gay man and I am very upset that our reputation for DRAMA has been surpassed by trans people. There is no drama like trans drama. That's not fair!
Most of the gay and lesbian people I know do not want LGBTQ to include the T. I can see that because being trans isn’t about sexuality, it’s about gender. For example, GiGi Gorgeous I thought was a MTF without bottom surgery, so biological male but gendered as female. GiGi’s long time partner is a butch lesbian looking heiress, biological female but gendered somewhat ambiguous to male. So they’re bio man and woman but their genders are switched. Maybe this makes no sense but it’s interesting - point is, are you gay if you are a biological male who falls in love with a biological female?
@@msi8311 I think that situation would make someone bisexual.. falling in love includes sexual desire. I love my female best friend but I'll never be in love with her
Wow Zayde, Maybe if you say stuff like that louder, straight people will like you more! Maybe they’ll even let you off the hook for being gay! Get ur brownie points !
What's missing in the conversation is that so called activism in its extremist canceling form is simply trauma dumping, people who have real unhealed trauma (often. Sexual Trauma) who lash out as a trauma response. As a sexuality and relationship coach , I have seen it in my community, with my clients and in myself. As one heals, their relationship to the political conversation and to other people becomes much more centered.
I think I might agree with this...maybe. Assuming I'm reading where you're coming from correctly. Guys who get involved wt far left extremism always seem to hate their fathers. Thats where it starts. Or they get groomed and diddled. Or their already brainwashed family indoctrinates them. Then they go off to far left college(which is practically all a them) and join up with the indoctrination process. These schools also corrupt nice normal kids from like the midwest. Its like we're living under the tyranny of religious fanatics.
Well said, the biggest assumption that is made, is that oppressed, traumatised people are angels. No they are not. They are filled with unconscious rage, think in traumatic, distorted, split ways. They are not conscious of their rage, “people are doing things to them”. They should be treated with compassion whilst they work on healing and encouraged to focus on self care. That’s it.
@@sarahdlp524 that’s also why women should have safe spaces because as you said they’re trying to heal from a trauma why provoke their fear & rage by putting a biological male identifying as a woman into their therapy space? Surely provoking fear & rage will prevent them reaching their healing phase?
Or they’re delusional, or worse, just want to appear virtuous while doing their best to cause harm to anyone who might have different views or not be on “their side”. Forcing your ideals on to someone and justifying it as inclusive is a ridiculous contradiction, especially when most can’t articulate their arguments beyond “I feel” or “my truth”. Just because someone screams about how oppressed they are doesn’t mean they have had it any worse than the people they are lambasting. It also shouldn’t earn them a pass. It reminds me of an old saying, “the more they preached of their honour, the faster we counted the spoons”.
In all seriousness, I was "mentally off" growing up and admittedly desperate for attention and validation. It took me longer than most to become self aware and grow up. I would've been so screwed had all of this poisoned my head. Thankfully, youtube and social media didn't exist back then to document my cringe moments.
I appreciate you saying this brother as messed up as you think you could've been your in alot better spiritual and mental state then most people around you.
I believe it is people not dealing with their inner selves/mental illness/disorder, wanting to fit into a "special" group, surrounded by people who tell them "you're brave, special and important" (cult like love bombing), and of course the need to be the epitome of correct (including the virtue signaling). Narcissists is what becomes the product, a person disillusioned by their own lies, while forcing everyone around them to see their reality and live in it.
If that's your theory how then do you explain or view those who basically do the opposite? Meaning those who struggle internally therefore not getting special attention at all, rather the polar opposite, they may be closeted about their gender identity, avoid social situations, etc. Just as many people exist in that internal suffering state as exist in this Gen Z unique snowflake thing you're calling narcissism.
Ultimately, without the Bible(or God's power or revelation), philosophy and science will never be enough or be able to know what a Man or a Woman(or any other subject for that matter) is. And the process of defining terms and AGREEING or DISAGREEING to them seems to be an ad-infinitum or never-ending process LITERALLY. Agreement appears to also be a huge or necessary part of this whole debate that cannot be taken for granted. Jesus said: "If Two of You on Earth AGREE about ANYTHING...".-- Matthew 18:19.
Agreement seems to also be a necessary quality or aspect of truth(and in the reality of God himself or the trinitarian community "Itself") and without it, it appears to be just impossible for truth to be established in any way. What Jesus said about AGREEMENT can also be used for twisted or evil purposes. And surely it has been used that way, and probably still is(the gay community being just one example. And the struggle that everybody has with sin in their lives being another). "Again, I tell you, if ANY TWO of you on earth AGREE about ANYTHING it will be done...."(paraphrase)--Jesus/God(The Bible) ruclips.net/video/2mIj-jedeRA/видео.html And Jesus says to those who feel skeptical about what I just said to try again or just "Do it Again"...
"I support anyone's right to be who they want to be. My question is: to what extent do I have to participate in your self-image?" *-Dave Chappelle*
How Dave can cut right into the core of an issue so succinctly is such an amazing talent. Guys got a really good head on his shoulders
“You can’t eat pork because of my religious beliefs”
Haha this quote always comes to mind when I hear these issues.
@@bombazine2 You can't abort your child because of MY beliefs.
@@tmartinez1948 u know that basically everything in the "what the health" documentary was proven to be bullshit right? If u dont want to eat meat then dont, but stop spreading lies and vegan propaganda.
The weirdest thing about this subject which has always messed with my head, is that the very people who don't want definitions and labels placed upon them, are the ones who create definitions and labels for themselves and then impose them on everyone else to follow. And then, when those people don't follow those definitions and labels, the ones who have imposed them upon others get vehemently upset about it. I don't understand what that is. Does anyone? I mean really?
Kinda. I'll tell you about how I see that. I was a pretty troubled kid, was adopted into a pharmaceutical family wit a narcissist adoptive mother. Because I was different as a child, they saw this as a problem to 'fix' . Because it wasn't in line with their standards then then starts drugging me on many psychotropics to 'control' me.
This is how society sees true critical thinking people. They're terrified. These people break down everything they though they knew. The discomfort then sets in.
They then need to use labels to think that they understand what they can't understand. The labels are to justify to themselves 'what' this unknown entity is to them.
In the case of these sjw identity politic types, it leans much more I believe toward an inward narcissism and sense of entitlement. The labels they make seem to be consistent with a misunderstanding or failure to understand, and a heightened individual need to... vilify and justify the ends of their thoughts, which have been much influenced by the propaganda bombardment of identity politics. We're basically seeing a war of minds. And it's exposing the bad in people also which is good to identify them.
It's similar to how in prison, prisoners make rules for themselves that are far harsher than those in outside society.
@@Digitizeddragon Yeah that's true, I agree with you on that. It's a tribal mentality. It's the way we've always been as human beings. The closer knit our specific tribe is, the more protected we feel. Ironically, the more we keep splintering ourselves into these smaller and smaller groups the more we're going to start seeing other groups as the enemy, when in reality we all started off as the same group.
You must be a cis male, it's a label we've been given to marginalize us.
@@HTSGOSU Yeah, and you're calling me a "Cis male" so, that's a label you're using to marginalize me. see how that works? I don't have a label to describe myself, I'm just me. That's my entire point here.
Dostoievski once said,
"Tolerance will reach such a level that intelligent people will be banned from thinking so as not to offend the imbeciles"
Its because the unintelligent lower class reproduce at a rate higher than the intelligent
it's just a fad , garuntee you in 10 years no one cares that much about their gender
They think they are the intelligents one
They made a movie about it called Idiocracy. 😜!
And history shows that after a revolution, the intellectuals are among the first to go.
The BIGGEST problem we have here is a narcissism problem which I believe was triggered by and is being catapulted by social media and greed. People feel so invisible and so insecure that they are jumping on any bandwagon to have a voice and feel like they are a part of something important. People need likes and shares like they need air. We are an incredibly insecure society that screams “we don’t need your validation” while simultaneously demanding everyones’ validation. We used to seek validation from people we cared about and people close to us. Now we seek validation from everyone and are hurt and offended when we dont get it. Its a mess.
100% agree! This is the age of Narcissism! Totally fed and fueled by social media.
The narcissistic are the most easily offended, believe their feelings are facts, have low to no empathy for others, need constant outside validation and attention, and have the emotional maturity of a 5 yr old.
Sadly some people will torture animals and post videos on RUclips just to get likes or subscribers.
I sure hope I don’t have to reincarnate !
Yup. Vulnerable narcissists
Quit saying "We". Speak for yourself.
You could not have said it any better. Well done.
Totally agree. Tik tok is full of GeN Z's claiming to suffer from tourettes, ADHD, OCD, multiple personality disorder and to be on the non binary/transgender spectrum (whatever that is). Mental illness is the fad of this generation. A bunch of bratty narcissists screaming at us that we WILL accept their ideology and we will participate in their identity. We will validate their identity.
When I was a kid I played with my sister's Barbie dolls all the time. I'm glad that was 20+ years ago because now a days people would probably say I was trans and groom me into that psycho cult.
I used to collect broken Barbies, and 'modified' them them into an army of Frankenstienian/Borg/BDSM slaves. And because I was in my forties, there were no psych evals or awkward questions.
I collected little sticky pictures that you put in an album (idk what they're called in english) of Winx
I also watched Winx and loved watching Tokyo Mew Mew, also watched Mermaid Melody Pichi Pichi Pitch sometimes
Winx and Tokyo Mew Mew are the most girly cartoon and anime ever
I'm not a trans woman or non binary or whatever, I'm just a 21 year old male, what I watched or liked doesn't change my gender
Also I don't know what it means to feel like you are of a certain gender
I don't feel like a man, I just am one
I can feel happiness, sadness, anger, stomach ache, pain when I stub my toe, when I need to fart, but not gender
No they wouldn't.
@@bananko8668 theyre called stickers my english second language friend
Lol yeah, I’d do the same, but first I’d take their clothes off and put them in my tonka truck and drive it around. Pretty sure I’d have been committed as a future predator.
I think shifting the focus on sex, gender and sexual orientation completely diverts the focus away from poverty, which is almost never represented in popular culture or politics any more. It also provides the illusion of freedom, that we can be who we want to be, while at the same time being constantly surveilled, having our data grabbed and sold, and our civil liberties eroded and with it our ability to protest, unionise, mobilise, not to mention the loss of free speech.
This is spot on. I've had these same thoughts but you explain them in the perfect way. They don't want people to realize what separates them is far different than what unify's them.
Well said!
hear hear
Wow this is it!!!
THIS!
Being super concerned about your gender and sexuality is truly one of the most 1st world problems out there.
Wokeism is white supremacy at its core
@@joejerkoff8774 first world problem, not real world problem
Also kind of a first world problem. A truly poor person from another person would think ur crazy that u don’t want to work at ur crappy job.
Not at all, it's a concern for anyone who recognises that a) theirs may be very different to those around them and b) there is a great danger if those people do not accept anything outside the norm.
Not rocket science.
Fortunately for the first world, a lot of progress has been made, in spite of the dum dums that we find congealing in youtube and facebook comments sections. In the third world however, the aforementioned concerns have far, far more serious implications in many cases.
So not only was your (popular) comment retarded, it's also objectively incorrect.
Then how do you explain asian ladyboys? Why are they so hot? Does that mean I'm gay?
As a 27-year-old woman, this trans movement did not bother me until I had a traumatic experience with a male identifying as woman storm a public shower on me. This was less than a year ago and I am still shaken to my core when I recall the incident. Now any man can identify as a woman and women are no longer safe in public restrooms, gym locker rooms, etc???
Genuinely so sorry for you
No one cares about your experience
That’s similar to what I experienced. I didn’t care about men using women’s restrooms until I was in the first stall (naked from the waist down) and heard a man’s voice as he walked past and I felt terrified. My mind raced and thought things like what’s stopping him from looking through the cracks between the doors? What’s stopping him from barging in?
@@NoNoNoWellMaybe Sorry that happened to you and thanks for sharing. It’s important we share our stories to spread awareness and also speak up for yourself when you’re in those situations.
That is terrible. However, most women( including yourself) had NO problem when it started out as women going into our bathrooms. Women would tell us men to not complain, to mind OUR business, to suck it up...etc. Collectively the trendy women couldn't see a few miles down the road to the finish point. Until it arrives on one's doorstep.......
The best argument I've heard for sex being binary is:
"100 years from now I could dig up your bones and test your DNA. It could never tell me what you think or how you feel, but it would tell me without a doubt whether you were male or female."
Sex is chromosomal. Plain and simple.
Yeah but the trans issue is a gender issue not a sex issue. They way I understand it is that sex is determined by biological factors while gender is more of the role that the associated sex typically has in the species. So you can be male but act like a woman and that would qualify you as a woman but not a female.
@@theashennamedjerry3203 No. That would qualify you as a TRANS woman.
Male & Female, Girl & Boy, Woman and Man. These terms were well defined and easily understood for hundreds of years until about 15 minutes ago when people decided that pretending to be something is the same as being that thing. Kindergarteners know the difference. You have to go to liberal arts college to "learn" that sex and gender are unrelated. Which is of course utter nonsense. If people want to pretend to be the opposite sex because it "feels right" to them. I don't judge. Whatever makes you happy, have at it. I'll even call you whatever you want. But I won't lie to myself or anyone else by saying a trans woman is a real woman. Because the truth is what it is. The more lies they can get you to tell, the easier you become to manipulate.
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." -Voltaire
You are just wrong. People can have XXY, XYY, X, XXX, or other combinations of chromosomes. Those aren't males or females, they are sexually ambiguous. Please educate yourself.
@@mutexin Intersex is the exception that proves the rule. It's not all that difficult...unless you've been to college, then you become so "smart" that for some inexplicable reason you not only lose the ability use any common sense, but you find it offensive when anyone else does either. After all, you paid a shit ton of money to be taught not to think.
Well this was all an incredibly comical and entertaining read 😏🤣
"one thousand years from now there'll be no guys or girls, just wankers" - Mark Renton, Trainspotting, 1996. not 30 years on and we're well on the way.
Great movie
@@jeffparke4864 absolutely
amazing quote. love that movie
Fucking love trainspotting. Take me back to the 90s please. We had our problems but wonder sometimes that maybe the matrix got it right that it was the pinnacle of our society.
Only in America 😂😂🤣
I was an unquestioned liberal, until the endless gender warping, denying of biology, pro-segregation CRT, anti-free speech, pro-censorship started taking over. Questioning, open discussion, and objectivity were banned so I hopped off the crazy train...
Today that would be a classical liberal or conservative
yup, feel exactly the same... its like if its not the far right making crazy shit then you can rely on the crazy far left to come and do something even worse.... i'm worried about humanity.
Me too
Feels good doesn't it?
@@seankennedy1377 yes, in the end piece of mind, being honest with one's self and striving for objectivity is much more important than wholesale buying in to any strict political ideology and constant self-censorship.
As a young boy, I used to watch Jem and She-Ra. I had both the dolls. I played with my neighbor's Barbies because she didn't have Transformers. I also loved Spider-Man and Batman.
I shudder to think what would've happened to me if I was born in the 2000's and not the 1980's. I'm glad I was allowed to be a kid without parents wondering about my gender.
I was a super tomboy at 14 because I hated my body. I hated my curves because they got me bullied so I dressed like a boy. I couldn’t imagine what people would assume in todays world.
The exact same thing you described would of happened had you been born in the 2000s. This topic is just culture war bs to keep the peasants fighting.
"They're not dolls dad! They're action figures!" Lol
Not sifting through but it’s not recent at all, theirs straight up ancient trans people and by no means is this shit new 💀 yall on a JR pod cast acting like you aint tripped acid or shrooms around a trans person b4
@@EmKayUltraProductions What are you on about? All I'm saying is I was allowed to be myself as a kid in the '90s, whereas if I were born after 2010, my parents and peers might have thought maybe I was trans because of my gender non-conforming interests.
The real question, Why do people define their entire existence on external social concepts that don't physically exist? Do they not have passions? Goals? Hobbies?
No, they don't.
They are narcissists
no they replaced all of that with cable television
No, not do they have lives, friends, companionship, or common sense... Or they wouldn't be so twisted mentally
@The Joeker we don't silence those that oppose us, regardless of how silly they sound. I have spoken.
When I was a young child I told my parents that I wanted to be their daughter and not their son. I remember the reason that I felt this way was that I thought daughter sounded a lot like Dr. and I thought it would be cool to be a doctor. Thank God that was over 30 years ago and not today otherwise they’d probably have cut off my pecker
Hahahahaha truth!
Lol 😂
Keep your pecker safe
@@tigerex777 hide it from the knife for if you loose it you will never get it back
LOL ... so true!
“Calling yourself non-binary categorizes everyone into binary or non-binary, creating a binary system which makes you binary again” ~ some random meme I saw.
just saw that this morning
@@tgdelta not getting into that, keeping life SIMPle :P
"Reject the false dichotomy, embrace the 3rd position."
Non-binary doesn't mean "politically opposed to the gender binary" it means they don't fit exclusively into being a man or a woman
@@tinkywinky56 no shit
It’s not a cultural phenomenon, it’s a political phenomenon.
Or BOTH!
And demonic. It's spiritual warfare and it's done on purpose to make us weak and confused. To make us question the most basic thing about ourselves, so that people gets easier manipulated.
Imagine living in a country so free that people have to make up things to be upset about...wtf
proves a point to the communists countries, those people complaining about everything and being so ignorant, give away their power. Goverment will always be there to "help" with this kind of issues
😂😂 that’s actually funny asf like we got so bored ppl just started creating like restrictions to freedom of speech and shit
IF YOU THINK WE'RE FREE...TRY DISAGREEING WITH THEM.
Lmao. Freedom is a Fallacy just like Democracy. You're just too dumb to know.
How is this a free country. Men arent even allowed to ask a woman out anymore. Its called harrassment and toxic masculinity.
Serious question: if gender is “fluid” as some put it, how can you identify outside of the gender you were born with without acknowledging predetermined stereotypes. What does it mean to feel like a boy? You enjoy doing “masculine” things? Okay, that doesn’t make you a male. That makes you a tomboy, which we always had as a society. Unhappiness comes when you don’t accept who you are and the circumstances of which you were born.
Good point, I never thought about this inherent irony regarding gender. I did regarding modern feminism, which tries to get women to behave and be like men (thereby being inherently anti-feminist regardless the name or self-proclamed goals)
Good job bud, you just discovered the difference between gender and sex.
@@wenlisman good job, Bud, you’ve discovered peoples’ personalities and preferences.
@@cheffymama9632 What a great comment bro, only if it had anything to do with my comment.
@@wenlisman there isn’t a difference. Sex is if you are a boy or a girl. Gender goes more in depth on that. Meaning what you do as that gender in society or just something that only comes with that gender like pregnancies and periods. They are not different. If you feel like a boy, you are a tomboy. Not an actual male. If you feel like a girl, you are not a girl. You are a male. Stop trying to twist what’s already fact with your sick and wrong ideologies
Politics has become a religion.
Wokeness is a religion.
Deez are a religion
and white supremacy is their god. It's a figure they can't prove exists but is according to them constantly responsible for everything
Because we live in a vacuum. We need religion and the state to mix. Otherwise, something worse fills in the void. This is the problem with secularism, multicultralism, and liberalism (not like liberal v conservative)
I've never heard it put like that, 100% bang on.
I worked at Berklee College of Music in 1991.. we had a new student who had recently begun the transition to female. It came up in a staff meeting for 20 seconds, just as a heads up, and that was it. Literally no one was phased. She used the girls bathroom and since there was only one stall anyway, no one cared. That was 1991. In 2007 I was teaching in Phoenix and.. same thing. Again, no one was phased.
Then all of a sudden in 2016 we were about to have all these new regulations where, for example, we weren’t allowed to use the students’ first names for the first two weeks - in case they happened to transition during the first two weeks and might get offended if we used the wrong name. Whaaaaa??? Whyyyy?? The transgender students I ever met don’t generally get offended. I think it was top down govt regulation.
Exactly. Most transgenders I know just want to live there life and be left alone. Yes they face discrimination and have a hard time accessing medical care sometimes which is important to remedy but most people are taking it way to far when no one asked for it.
They are dragging children into it. If adults decide, it's fine, but not kids.
All trans people I've met are literally so chill and nice, the media portraits them as crazy activists and neo liberals are so up their own ass trying to come off as progressive that they end up hurting the minority groups they try to protect with those kind of regulations.
theres definitely a ring leader deciding all of this, that gets handed to a group that implements these new regulations. this is a powerful entity as we are seeing this being blasted down our throats in academia, media, etc etc..I bet this ring leader is a man, or group of men. look up investigative journalist, Jennifer Bilek, she goes in deep on who is behind the trans agenda. There are original people part of the lgb who dont associate with what it has become now, this before they added the TQ, and they want the TQ removed, there is a different ringleader running that group now.
I honestly think Trans should have their own bathroom .Why ?..Even though I'm fine with trans people I'm not sure if I would want to see a naked trans woman who still has a penis..just makes people feel weird.What if your kids were in the bathroom ? It's something to think about.Some people are more modest than others...I don't understand why the Trans Agenda is being pushed so much.
.That also seems odd since Transgenderism is only 1-2 % of the population. If you shove agendas down people's throats..whether Transgenderism,Equity a tricky word),Inclusion...these all take on a different vibe when it's shoved down our throats. It needs to stop.
“Motorcyclist who identifies as a cyclist shatters world record at the Tour de France.”
That bit peddled through my mind, also!
SO many trophies! 🚳🏆👌🏍👍🏆🚳
Gold
“Prisoner who identifies as a free man is released from jail”
Well done, sir…or is it miss, or mrx, or zhtyh, or abc, or 1,2,3? I’m so confused. I laughed for a good minute at your comment.
LOL
This is going to go over well at Spotify HQ
Lol 😂😂😂 as long as we support our shiny headed friend
Idk it may become more profitable to push this content soon. If we're lucky
The reeees of a 1000 pink and green hair they/thems is being shrieked right now
@@yurig014 As credible as their good faith effort to quit to let other people of color take their well paid positions.
Lmao this is gonna trigger a lot of people
"Gender, sex, race, sexual orientation" have one important thing in common - they ignore - "Class!" So of course the system through MSM will support the population talking about and arguing about these topics endlessly as this provides no threat whatsoever to oligarchy and entrenched power.
Exactly!! It’s curious no one ever talks about how all politics, all the BS happening, all this garbage is nothing more than class warfare.
No people are committing suicide and a bunch of doctors got together in 2011 and its been a fight since
the left shifted away from classism when it became apparent that they could no longer align themselves with communism so blatantly. So it became about identity politics instead of class, even though class has a lot to do with the socioeconomic factors behind the issues that they blame solely on race/gender/orientation/etc.
@@joeberger3441 They are neo-liberal hypercaptalists who use marxist tactics of division and propaganda. Since highlighting the class warfare they are complicit in would just expose them for who they are, they use race as a means of dividing the lower classes while continuing to consolidate power. It's authoritarianism by any means, simple and plain.
People will not listen to me, when I explain this.
Working in the mental health field has become so difficult for us who don’t go along with all these new ideas. We’ve been told to believe things that haven’t been proven to us. We have to hide our true thoughts and not use our hard-earned skills to help our patients, but instead affirm their ideas regardless of their comorbidities. I don’t feel like I can go further in a field that I have given my life to.
I'm from Asia and I'm in the process of becoming a doctor in America. The amount of LGBTQ concepts I had to learn for my US exams is nauseating. It made me wonder how and why the American educational and health system was too quick to embrace this gender ideologies that they literally come out on exams. I got 3 questions about LGBT concepts on my US exam, and they were about compelled speech (ie. preferred pronouns, name/dead name). It made me kinda chuckle how instead of testing me more on actual diseases they gave 3 points on preferred pronouns and those nonsense. It also felt like America was telling me "If you wanna work and live here, you better throw away your own principles and accept the trans agenda".
A guy once told me that gender is the sum of all your interests and attitudes, your own unique amalgamation of what makes you who you are.
No dude, that's your personality
💀
@Ra Shaan the key well-documented gender-defined personality traits of men and women are higher neuroticism and an interest in people over things. Of course there's more differences documented in our behaviour, which moreso tend to be context-specifc, but generally speaking, yeah - a lot of 'genders' are just labels of certain personality types. personality types are nothing new either, and the entire field of gender literature is very controversial as research requires approval before publication, so rallying trans activists inhibit the publication of research against the findings they agree with, which is pretty tyrannical.
@Ra Shaan moreover, the separation of gender and sex serves no real societal contribution. if gender is truly this entirely social construct, with no true ties to biology (although the LGBT community flips on this whenever they deem appropriate) then it's purpose has to be questioned. if it simply serves to further divide people and limit them, outlining what contributions they should and should not make, it's nothing short of discriminatory and segregating. the newly defined concept of gender promoting ideas of a 'spectrum' is utterly useless. all this would suggest is that we are each individually different to any extent: an idea which psychological literature already evidenced across several decades. tying gender into it seems to only serve the purpose of creating more labels for people to further divide themselves, and the socioethical implications of this can be pretty damning, considering how well it aligns with an early stage of a divide and conquer strategy.
@Ra Shaan I completely agree. Glad to have such an educated conversation
Stay within your own Bubble. Bring your own elevator with you.
"Divide and rule" is an ancient ruling class strategy. Identity politics is just a new form of an old thing.
Doesnt help that social media encourages people to have an outward facing identity, feels like lots of people needing acceptance or validation latch onto it as something to build their identity off. imo.
That's jordan peterson for you. Yeah, all this has nothing to do with the SIMPLE facts of human nature like - we judge people we dont know, we dont like being judged and we want to be popular. Simple, basic, even childish urges have been elevated to unreal levels by people.
You mean the Roman concept, "Bread and Circus"?
Exactly this. I hope it’s obvious to others. Divide and conquer.
Gender, race, religion, white hate, Asian hate, identity politics - all methods to divide.
United we stand, divided we fall.
Right, notice how everyone has forgotten about class issues. All corporations have jumped on board with BLM and LGBT, but if there was a movement of unionizing workers, they would shut it down immediately. Identity politics have been used throughout history as a post-structuralist analysis to quell criticisms of capitalism. That's what you see happening right now. Class is the root of all legitimate identity concerns. Focusing on the interpersonal dynamics of working class people distracts us from dismantling the ruling class.
My undergrad is biology. I also felt this complete conflation between gender and sex - even by some biology professors. It was astonishing. It’s like gender is fluid and is felt, ok fine. But why the SEX change then???
And they are insisting on being called their gender. But humans don’t see gender, they see sex because that is the biological reality. And one more thing, besides intersex being very rare, individuals almost always predominately present as closest to one sex or the other. Unfortunately, a burden of these conditions is infertility in most cases! It’s not really a sex - it is Intersex.. like the definition. They are trying to disregard definitions exactly because they have adopted postmodernism to the extreme, as the video pointed out. Doesn’t change the reality of the world.
They would probably say that logic, deductive and inductive reasoning are sociological constructions of the western patriarchy, expressly rationalised to provide power to old white men. You aren't talking to a rational actor at that point.
+Calvin Tower You don't seem to be paying attention in classes. The consensus in Biology is NOT to conflate gender and sex. How can people see sex? The concept is nonsensical. Can you see chromosomes? Why is self-presentation so vastly different according to gender norms if we just see the impossible to see underlying biology? Have you tried expressing your ideas in a way that isn't completely contradictory and inane? You might do better in all of your courses.
If you see a transitioned transwoman on the street and she looks like every other woman, you would see a woman though, which means you do see gender. You gender people all the time without realizing it, if you see someone who doesn't look completely like a man or a woman, you take a moment to let your brain decide which gender they appear to express themselves as. You don't go digging around their genitals. It's dishonest to say that people don't see gender, you certainly notice when people don't fit into the "norms" of their gender. If you only saw sex, you wouldn't notice gender norms and expressions.
@@lawrenceharold8599 and yet the lgbtqxyz world DOES conflate gender with sex while claiming that gender and sex are different, you brainlet. That's the point.
I remember everything Colin Wright is talking about. I saw the rise and fall of the Atheist and sceptic community on RUclips back then.
This whole thing is really surreal to me. I'm trans and knew I was before I even heard about the idea of "trans" as people know it now; it's just the best description I can find.
I grew up in the 90s and for me it had nothing to do with all this anarcho-communist post-modern woke crazy stuff.
When we were all talking about it in early RUclips, the people who were the "weird tran****", we had a very STRICT difference in our perception and definition of sex and gender.
I'll put forth this idea on how that changed:
I think it was lost when a new generation of kids came about and into the world where people were talking about trans issues on RUclips.
I think that they heard the terms "sex" and "gender" being used and they didn't make any difference between the definition of the two as we used to do.
I think it's literally because they were young.
Three things I really wish the "trans community" (if there even is one) pushed harder on are:
1) These things are not reversible! (activists started lying and saying that transition was "fully reversible")
2) We should've pushed hard against when the distinction between sex and gender started happening.
3) It's not like "just a choice" as anything else is. People started calling us "Truscum", (us who said that it was all about dealing with gender-dysphoria and that people shouldn't transition unless they really had to and there was no other way for them and they wanted to basically de-alive their person.) - We should've really pushed harder against that.
I think one of the main reasons we didn't push harder against those three things is because we started to grow up, and life started to get busy... we didn't have time to sit around on the internet all day, but the "new kids" did, so they took lead over us.
Literally, none of this was about ideology for us at all. These kids seem to be in some sort of crazy trend and I feel so sorry for them. They will literally GIVE themselves gender-dysphoria and it's hell.
Shit really hit the fan since 9/11, we never recovered spiritually
Amazing how when emotion is taking out of a subject, a rational conversation can be had.
PREACH 🙏
Amazing how both parties being in agreement about, and completely uninvested in, the topic at hand makes for an emotion-free conversation.
I've just discovered Colin Wright and find him to be another sane voice as a relief from all the hysterical banshees out there.
Yeah, it's amazing when you have two people who are basically in agreement with each other and like each other how easy conversations are. The problem is within five minutes the guest has badly misrepresented what happened with Rebecca Watson, which is an indication of the pathetic nature of these two in general. A guy follows her out of a bar onto an elevator to get her alone, making her feel very uncomfortable very late in the evening after she'd been drinking. She makes a video stating as much which is impossible to fathom as a bid deal and then we went through years of harassment and hate aimed at her., with to this day, idiots like this fool in the video blaming her for an incident which no one would remember had a bunch of trash atheist trolls not blown it up and harassed her for years. That behavior destroyed the scene, as few women would take the risk of the that level of harassment for simply stating a guy made her feel uncomfortable by following her out of a bar to get her alone late in the evening. And why would somebody like me hang around to spend time with that sort of trash?
I guess it's easy when you're prevarications and outright falsities aren't called out to have a "rational" conversation among two people who already agree with each other. So, yeah preach away as the other commenter said, a hilarious admission that you all are only talking to yourselves in your safe spaces.
@@johnhorton5627 Everything he said was true.
When calling a crazy person crazy is no longer socially acceptable, this is the rabbit hole society falls into...
Look, I'm somewhere on the spectrum, I don't know where, but I killed someone for that reason!
You're crazy 😧
bigotry at its finest smh
Have you seen the interview
Elon Musk meets Post Malone
It’s hilarious!
... and to the detriment of all.
Social media and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.
Yup. Thats it right there
Well said. It has made people more malleable than ever. Now everyone is a die hard conformist, whereas individuality was valued in days past.
but at the same time has also benefited mankind immeasurably. Two polar opposite effects
The way it’s being used at the moment, sure. Imagine if it was used for a genuinely benevolent purpose, instead of a moneymaking machine. The good it could accomplish using the collective intelligence of all connected to it.
the human race has been a disaster for the human race
fixed it for you
A few years ago I started a new job and got called into HR after a few months for having an argument with a lady at work, and I was told my transphobic attitude needed to change. Turns out, she was actually a man. I had no idea, she looked like the real McCoy. That didn't stop them from giving me a written warning though. I didn't even hand in my notice, I just never went back. I can't play by these new rules, they're ridiculous and inhuman, bizarre and cruel. A lose lose situation every time unless you shave your head or dye your hair blue.
Every generation of broken families gets weirder and weirder.
When I read that I substitute sad for weird.
Love this
Replace broken with dysfunctional. Thank God my parents split.
Big oof
@@slabbulkhead69to conclude in absolutes is irrational. It's not black and white. That's also dysfunctional. People make mistakes. That's life. To stay married and not admit to oneself the relationship isn't healthy for the children and/or oneself is just plain irrational.
For at least 18 years they have been told that they are special, can be whatever, become whatever and have whatever they want if they just believed. The parents of these people were too frightened to tell their children truth. Honest truth. Every child nowdays never loses, is always highly talented and their true potential is ignored, because for some reason all of them are now polymaths. It's no surprise that the ones who were born in economically better situations don't know what the real world is like growing up. Protected from everything and anything, only for their child not to feel sad. If something didn't work out, it was never their fault. And now they're all virtue-whoring on social media with no sense of reality. Mental
I'd like to politely disagree with your comment saying "It's no surprise that the ones who were born in economically better situations don't know what the real world is like growing up. Protected from everything and anything"
I don't think it's fair to say that people of my generation don't know what the real world is like, I'd actually argue that we know a lot more about the real world than any generation before us, mostly due to the internet being around when we grew up and the debt crisis's that we are burdened with atm, However, I'd just say that I 'personally' think a lot of these problems might have come from the rampant "helicopter parenting" that we were exposed to, I'd say the way you teach people when their very young can severely effect them when they become adults and THE LACK to certain stimuli has probably done a lot of this. You can grow up in a perfect world but still be strong, I've seen it, people in their twenties juggling work, social and family life with insane debt and low pay but still soldiering on, being people.
I'd argue that every generation had a problem like this, it's just different now because we use different methods.
I'd like to add that what is happening riggt now in the US is a combination of everything you and OP mentioned. A mollycoddled generation exposed to severe economic duress with near absolute cultural inability to endure that stress leads to outbursts that being said as the boomer generation retires this decade the ones making the noise will be incharge, they will learn, in one way shape or form they will learn how the world works and why the way it is so.
All those goddamn participation trophies…
I got told I could be anything I wanted and I just turned out normal
...and who HANDED OUT those participation trophies? Boomers. Every generation is ignorant in some capacity, but to call millenials and gen Z ignorant and priviledged makes no sense. I'm european, but it's common knowledge that in America the cost of living and education has sky rocked while salaries have stagnated.
"Most of the trouble in this world has been caused by folks who can't mind their own business , because they have no business of their own to mind , anymore than a small pox virus has." William S.Burroughs
Thank you.
Thats BS if people simply minded their own bussiness many atrocities would never come to light. On that note whats happening in the world is everyones bussiness and everyone has the right to participate because it affects ALL of us.
@@vanessaboneta9878 I'd like to think he's speaking on a much smaller scale here.
@@vanessaboneta9878 ...problem is that goes both ways, yes some of the worlds nastiness can be exposed for all to see...but at the same time, stupid shit around the world also can be put out there...and I think that's what is happening in the context of this video (and others like it)...think of all the nonsense that would have rarely been given a second though...BS can now be spread on a global level without a filter or second thought...
@@vanessaboneta9878 having two generations learn almost nothing in school then go off to college and maybe learn a valuable skill that is able to support them, get in severe debt and be unable to move out and start a family of their own stunts maturity and gives people a lot of time to focus on non sense instead of focusing on real problems imo
I am currently a student at the University of Illinois at Chicago. My Major is Public Policy. In one of my classes, I was told that biological sex is indeed on a spectrum. It's getting really bad out here. Send Help.
That is perhaps a bad metaphor, but what could be said is biological sex has exceptions to the norm XXY or XY47 or XYY etc are in fact exceptions to biological sex.
Yes, fewspecific exceptions exist to the XY and XX. The biological sex spectrum doesn't.
You can say there are a 1000 shades or even an infinite number of shades in a rainbow.
There is no infinite spectrum of XX. Or XY.
Its not a spectrum, DSDs or differences of sexual development exist but the human race only exists because of XX and XY. Humans are born with a variety of numbers of fingers and thumbs due to various genetic, mechancial and biological reasons, for example, but humans have 10 digits @matthewkopp2391
@@matthewkopp2391 Not really. For example, someone with XXY chromosomes (Kleinfelter's syndrome) has a chromosomal abnormality that causes issues with development, fertility, hormone levels, musculature, etc, but they're still male.
the entitlement within the SJW movement is truely stunning. I use to push against people who said 'young people are entitled these days' but I was wrong and its fucking out of control. Im a guy, dude, whatever you wanna call me, and in highschool I was in bands. I had loong hair and wore skinny jeans (makes you a better musician lol). I was 'misgendered' so many times, and a lot of times on purpose. Was called a girl, chick, all kinds of things, and most of the time it was used as an insult. And guess what, I didn't give a single fuck. I knew who I was.
The obsession with gender goes right back to the 1960's with the second wave of feminism. Gender theory was started by feminists, then it evolved and was adopted by the LGBT activists.
@@tubester4567 yes!
“Today, on: missing the point entirely.”
Have some empathy. Nobody is “entitled” for demanding respect. Everyone deserves respect and it doesn't cost you a dime to give it.
@@isaackopstein3367 no one deserves anything. NO ONE.
@@isaackopstein3367 nobody is owed anything that is supposed to be earned. leftist and blm believe they are entitled to things because they are professional victims. Their entire cause is based on bullshit lies.
As a biologist he was willing to “let them have that.” That’s the problem with these slippery slopes. It applies to every human sciences topic. People are stupid and selfish and we have to have principles in academia.
Moral relativism is Satan‘s favorite weapon, because Godless people arrogantly anoint themselves a god so they can determine what they think is right or wrong, which is obviously subjective and not based in objective truth… a dangerous path for a society to take-i.e. see the Roman Empire.
100% as a fellow biologist
I want to clarify that I’m personally not a biologist. I’m referring to this biologist’s quote in the clip. He clearly didn’t read “If you give a mouse a cookie” when he was a kid.
@@Imfromtheyear3452 best comment I’ve seen in a while.
They kicked out everyone with principles. There’s very few people like Brett Weinstein or Gad Saad in a that world.
I love the part where they talk about the discrimination in sports. It's not because you're trans that you can't participate. That can be nothing more than a state of mind or mood in some instances, or if anything more of a psychological and possibly hormonal issue. The problem is that you're biologically a distinct gender, which is discriminated against when it comes to sports because of natural advantages and disadvantages that come with either being male or female. It's not some ploy to invalidate you as a person or demean you in any way, but to preserve the competitiveness and integrity of the games. It's just not fair for someone is biologically male to compete against women in certain sports because of the differences is size, strength, muscle mass, bone density etc.
TrAnS SpoRTS ToPIc iS NoT eVeN a BiG dEaL, as some would say. Yeah tell that to the trans wrestler that dominated the entire women's league. Total level playing field
thats a fact,of course theres only one instance recorded where that was attempted, fight wing propaganda would have you thinking its being done fairly often,because it fits the (your way of life is being stolen from you narrative)
If I have to hear another butthurt dude hide their own phobias around gender and sex behind this idiotic sports example, I’m going to light the internet on fire. Why not have a trans person or a non binary person on the show to talk about this?? Us cis men should just step aside and just ask how we can respect people’s gender identities and support them as fellow human beings
@@juliankindermann idk who you talking about with butthurt and phobias, but do you not see an unfair advantage to someone who's biologically male or female competing on a team comprised of the opposite biological sex? That whole tactic of applying the label transphobic or bigoted, toxic masculinity, etc is played out af. Trans people can identify however they want, but there are biological differences between the sexes idk how that's so problematic.
@@sparkfx5874 The Question is often, what is a Biological Male and what is a Biological Female. Because a Trans Women are Women and not because they want it, same for Trans Man. Most Trans people Transition with HRT(Hormon Replacement Therapy), after a while they have the same Hormonal Household than Cis People. And Hormones change a lot and change our bodies to our Gender we persive ourself with.
I have a friend who is a Cis Male, but dosen´t produce enough Testosterone by himself. Which caused him to feel out of touch and couldn´t see himself like a real Man, even though he is Cis. After getting Regular Testosterone Injections he could finally feel more aligned with himself and his Body, what also Trans people feel after a while.
And what I find mostly funny about the whole Trans women can not compete in Womens sport because of Biological Adventages, is that it implies they have to compete with man in Sport and Trans Man have to Compete with With Cis Womens. So you have Trans Mans that have the Hormonal advantages of a Cis Man, that have to Compete with Cis Women.
Sounds like really fair play /s
I hope history will hold the social media creators accountable for what they have done to society
History? these fools are not going to make it
Bahahahahahahahahahahah.
Won’t happen. They got rich sacrificing America. Same for democrats
It wont
I've been telling people that I'm bi and it's really the whole LGBT movement that has kept me from doing it sooner.
I don't want a party, I don't want to be brave (I'm not, no one has been mean and I'll survive if they are), I don't want it to be a big deal.
I feel like I'm just telling my friends and family for the sake of them knowing and nothing else. I didn't even want to post this comment but I feel like there aren't enough people like me calling this shit out.
Everyone I know just treats me like a person exactly as they did before I told them, that's all I want. It's the people who tell me I'm some special case that make me feel like shit and who try to convince me that others will never accept me just because they don't share every attraction or desire I have.
I feel like they have a monopoly on my sexuality and I just want them to take their banners, flags, medals, and awards and fuck off from my general presence.
Same here. I feel like this controversy is really not helping the oppressed minorities....
+Ragnarok Neato. You have a perspective and apparently a lot of privilege. Others have perspectives as well but suffer bullying, harassment, and relentless torment. Not all perspectives agree. Welcome to humanity.
@@lawrenceharold8599 What is my apparent privilege in this scenario. Do you really think you know enough about my life to assume that from a single comment?
Perhaps perspectives don't line up because many people are unaware that they are making nescient claims.
I really don`t care what someone`s sexual orientation is. I do care if they are nice and kind. I do not want to know what straight people do in their bedroom and likewise I don`t want to know what anyone else does. I just feel like it should be a non issue.
Same. Im technically pansexual queer.....but thats some shit they told me i was. Despite it being a gray area thats evolving along with my personal growth.
Everyone has gone mad. Critical thinking is gone. Compromise is seen as weakness.
There was an interview where a girl was online, on a pic app. and she was explaining how when she was a teen she was talked into questioning her gender based on simple things like; if you don’t like the way your voice sounds in a recording you might not be the right gender, if you don’t feel comfortable in your body it might be a gender problem. She is now older and likes being a female and wants to save other kids from getting confused.
Its quite predatory. Literally no one like the sound of their voice on a recording and ALL young people/people feel uncomfortable in their bodies at some point. ESPECIALLY when we have media/social media/ ads that intend to make them feel uncomfortable about some aspect of themselves. We live in a society of constant self judgment - so that some company can come in and sell you the solution to your woe. Seems like its orchestrated this way on purpose.
+Sammer Jay There were several instances where a kid who was influenced by the right wing rage cult went into a school and shot up children.
Weed is really slowing JOE’s brain speed
I knew two women who had gender dysphoria as children, and both of them outgrew it. Yes, some people do walk away from this.
@@Melis55a I was going to say exactly this
Thank god we have guys like Joe who have the balls to ask these types of questions, all while being completely aware of how many people he influences. It seems like he’s the last line of defense for sanity these days
You are blinded by your admiration or love of his celebrity. He has flipped on a few subjects and also just does not cover certain points or even express his true views on subjects because he would be sanctioned like a Russian by RUclips and so many other big sponsors or some groups who support his stances. IWe should be allowed to speak freely as we are meant to and are told "Oh we have freedom of speech in the West". You only have freedom of speech and a voice if your speech and views go along with the narrative and the stance of the elites who control most everything.
The Sarkesian saboteur caused GamerGate as well.
@Caroline Hudson so to believe in fantasies?
He even had a show with Blair White, and he was totally cool with her. They mostly talked about DMT, not even gender related debates. ANYONE can push any agenda there is that CAN be pushed, and some think its their duty to do just that. :( Joe doesn't push. He discusses stuff. He Cool :)
@@Jharrison6014 he's not as cool as you want him to be.
As a philosophy major, I'm not gonna lie... I find the gender debate incredibly annoying. Like for fuck sake- we're really Arguing over something that was ounce considered common sense? 🤦♀️
Gender desporia is real but it's a very small percentage of the population that genuinely struggle with it. So many people jumping on the badwagon..
“If you say there are only two genders you could lose your job”
Me: * laughs in welder* Not where I work.
Also this never comes up at work. No one at any point in my life has ever asked me how many genders I think there are
LOL. Thank you.
In many native ways, two spirit is just normal. Nobody is shamed or killed for being different from what a book about talking animals say. But we see what the sky daddy and zombie son worshippers did to them...
@Mmmhhhmmm try being a union pipe welder in Vegas!! Most of the local is femocrats it really sucks
Texas welder here! 👨🏭
Joe - “What’s causing it?!?!”
Easy
Our generation has nothing to fight for so we made up a boogie man to fight
Why do we have to fight something? 😂 nobody is looking for anything to fight
Your right. These kids have heard about the days when Gays were persecuted and beaten up by skinheads and they want those times to be here now. Much to their dismay those days are long gone.
What or who is this boogie man that is influencing the culture of modern society 🤔
@@marketingIdeaslol most people need a battle for a sense of purpose…
some chase money or success or bettering themselves, some chase sex, and others chase tearing down the social norms or accomplishment of those in the past
@@TurtleChad1 The boogie man is widespread racism, or sexism, or any kind of bigotry. There is so little of it they have to over-hype every incident in the media to scare people into believing it's still bigger than it is. #stopasianhate for example. One instance of some Asian women being shot is a horrible tragedy that should have never happened, but it's not part of a widespread trend in asian hatred, and the transparent attempt to turn all Asians into victims to be incorporated into the victimhood political caucus is pathetic, evil and highly calculated.
3% of the population tell the rest of the country what we need to think.
Alot og people tell others what to think. People may chose to listen to 3% of them, but news! You dont have to listen to anybody if you dont want to
*significantly less than 3%
97% of people click on the news articles referring to the noise those 3% are making, so they keeping making more content….. we quit clicking, they stop talking about it
not really. more than 3% of the population are intelligent...
right wingers spend so much time bullying the trans community
same with the gay community and the black community and the jewish community and the muslim community and the asian community...
I used to never really care and let other do what they want until they tried to force such things on me and dictate to me my sexuality and gender. If they tried this on me they have done this to others subliminally or forcefully. Enough is enough of their nonsense. I see their tactics now. The debauchery and chaos we have had to endure will now end.
Do you live in Iran??? I've never seen anyone forcing any of this. Dictate? WTAF? I'd bet that there is not a single person in your whole life who does anything of the sort. WTAF and SMH all day long...
You say "if they tried 'this'" on me.... who's "they?" what is "this?") immediately after you said they (actually) *tried* to force and dictate to you your sexuality and gender. Is that anything like the moon causing the sun to melt?" -- "They" who dictate gender are parents and people who "think?" like you BEFORE one is even born. HALLO!! REALITY CHECK.
@@maitreyiseraph no I live in Gaza
The biggest weakness of JRE on Spotify is the lack of comments.
True
The biggest positive is RUclips blows
Never get to see the funny comments on his wimpy lisp
Also… It puts Joe in a bubble… Something he espouses against…
@@megustalations6965 True, but spotify isn't much better, it's all censored
Historically, I’ve thought the “slippery slope” was a weak approach to debate, but it’s crazy how quickly people prime the hill with grease. The fringes are already leaning in: “transracial” and “non-offending pedophiles” coming to mind.
Yup people dont believe that idea until it really starts unfolding in front of them. You give someone an inch they will go a mile. It's not just this discussion on gender. Personal choice, health rights, gun ownership, there needs to be a static line and no grey area
There's been Ted talks on that very issue years ago. The very same argument used by the LGBTQ community: Why should my love be a crime just because it's different.
The hill isn't just greased, we're already sliding down.
Calling something a slippery slope fallacy is just an easy way to avoid legitimate arguments.
Well I'm not using it as an argument, more of an illustration. My argument would be that not all love is equal nor valid, therefore should not be equally protected. For example, the love a parent exudes towards their child is not the same a boyfriend or girlfriend would give. Similarly, someone may love all dogs but the love for their own dog is different. Lastly, one could love to inflict pain on themselves or others, doesn't mean it should then be permissible.
Slippery slope is a logical fallacy in that just because one thing happens doesn't AUTOMATICALLY mean that the next thing will happen. However in real life and in political issues there are groups with agendas who are looking to push things in an extreme direction and it's part of their process to start small and gradually mission creep outwards. So, it's a logical fallacy, but it's also exactly what happens in real world social situations.
My son runaway from home after being brainwashed by several of his gay friends. He lived with a family that accused me of abusing him by not allowing him to transition. He transitioned at age 14 and this family paid for breast implants. To make a long story short, he finally came home at 16 years of age. After a year of deep reflection and support he came to deeply regret transitioning. He basically said it was due to peer pressure and insecurity, he's not even gay. I paid to have his breasts removed but not much else can be done. He struggles with depression due imbalances in his hormones. He's sterile for life and can't achieve erections. It's ruined his life and basically destroyed our family. As the pressure caused a divorce and my other son holds his younger brother accountable. This needs to stop
You need to find those people who convinced him to do it and have them charged. Or killed. Either one lol. But they definitely deserve some repurcussions for ruining your kids life. I hope he can find a way out of this
@@a1x2y3z4 oh I'm making that up am i? Ok well tell me how im making it up and I'll provide answers with backed up evidence. Im waiting....
Btw I bet you don't apologise
Your child didnt deserve this. Any person has equal rights to be what they want to be. As non binary myself i feel like your son was definitely peer pressured to transition and felt real gender dysphoria after that. They probably could have had a better situation if they gave you a second to talk about the later results of transitioning while avoiding the bad influence which was forced by their friends
that is one of the many reasons why we need to teach about LGBTQIA+ in schools and for the community to have more visibility. so children can make educated decisions about their lives and not being influenced by random people.
can't you sue those responsible ?
When I was a 15 "unattractive" teenager in the 80s, I coped by either joining the punk rockers wearing black clothes and giving the middle finger to the system, and later by joining hippies wearing loose clothes saying that what matters is the spiritual. If I were 15 in 2022, I'd have my "imperfect" boobs removed, colouring my "ugly" hair blue, and calling myself trans. It's that simple.
Maybe so, but back in the 1980s I don't remember anyone being shamed for their refusal to participate in punk or hippie subculture.
LOL to funny
@Sol music Exactly. This is the current fad.
And incur permanent irreversible damage to your body and soul.
@@ryankelly369 maybe you've got bad memory. I got kicked out of home (and many of my mates) for being punk. Oh and the hippies, even worse. We were all rejected by our families and schools.
Refreshing to see there’s finally some pushback to this nonsense
we need a ton more push back, its so far out of hand its a scary future.
There's plenty of pushback, just not on YT..
Besides the whole right wing party of course. He might be the first left winger.
It exists just not enough of it! It’s not just conservatives that think this is all bullshit
Push back against CRT also.
Went to law school with some people that held a variety of positions on issues. Legalize marijuana, gay rights, white supremacy, list goes on. The problem with activists is they tend to base every aspect of their life on that little tiny issue that most people spend a small fraction of their time thinking or worrying about. To an activist, every conversation has to center on that one thing and really just want an argument to prove that you're racist or whatever. Even changing the subject offends them so deeply that every one in your family tree is part of the problem and somehow evil. It's not good enough to never do anything racist, or sexist, or homophobic, or say yeah I respect your opinion, you have to match their level of passion on a subject. I'll take climate change for example. I'm a bit of an environmentalist, I love to scuba and during my lifetime I have been to a reef or a place when I was far younger and second time sometimes decades later gone back to the same place and have seen noticeable and significant decline. I find that sad and disturbing, something must be going on. But turns out overfishing has messed up the food chain so badly that it trickles down to coral reefs, etc. Sure carbon emissions play a part but it's fractional compared to fishing practices in my opinion. However, you have to so badly hate human produced pollution that you are willing to endure wars, genocide, bankrupt people who can't afford an electric car or put gas in their tank to meet their expectation. Anything lower than that you are not just stupid but the absolute enemy.
It was coordinated to create a divide.
Americans have really lost their minds. In the 30 years I’ve lived in the US I’ve witnessed this fascinating phenomenon of people getting so entrenched in their beliefs that they completely lose touch with reality. It’s quite entertaining but in a very disturbing way.
It's like going back to the 16th century.
Its not fascinating, its not entertaining, its horrifying. Its intellectual barbarism.
Those cops down in Atlanta got charged with murder by the far left DA for doing their job exactly as they'd been trained.
Other far left DAs have dismissed charges on violent criminals on purely partisan political grounds. The FBIs being blatantly used as political police for the democrat party.
Decent, clear thinking people should be horrified by all this and quietly planning things to do about it.
This trans social epidemic is not limited to the USA. Its all over Europe
@@DieFlabbergast had the same thoughts regarding sociatal beliefes trumping any discussion or science
Alan Watts used to talk of people that think to much losing touch with reality because if all you ever do I'd think then all you have to think about is thoughts. This was the point of meditation in his view, a way to get back in touch with what's actually happening around you.
Obviously there’s a million reasons but I believe almost every major problem with society today can be traced back to social media
Agree, and children having tablets/smartphones. Seeing things they would never see in the real world.
I do not agree, think about: think about racism, poverty, Corruption of powerful governments, crimes... the list can go on and on and blaming it all on something a little like "RUclips" is major deflection of the actual cause and root of such problems into other things that, yes, might affect it and to a certain extent too but also vice-versa so a equilibrium like thing should happen right? well no because the main source of these problems is not that.
@@abudielzein4841 I understand your point but I do think that social media is the biggest cause of all of this, not saying that there aren’t other things causing it as well
@@abudielzein4841 RUclips is hardly the issue, and is t social media. Tik tok and other actual social media has been psychologically shown to alter kids personalities to the point where kids actually develop habits and even involuntary behavior including tics, from overexposure to short form content on social media.
The societal pressure from Twitter, and other SM platforms can absolutely change a child’s opinions and values in a way that’s consistent with the overarching social narrative. It’s really hard for parents to overcome that kind of influence.
It's social media but computers in general. Video games for instance when not moderated can let you escape the world and let's you not pursue relationships if you so choose. The common man can not moderate their technology use. Me included and i feel better than most
It all stems from people being obsessed with attention from their social media addiction. People will cry and make themselves a victim to get more attention even if makes themselves look like a fool. The sad part of it really is that it's accepted and actually pushed in society to not have a back bone so that people are easily controllable.
On the nose! It's why people get angry and "offended" if you actually try to help and advise them over the internet. Despite complaining about how terrible life is, they don't actually want help, since then they'll no longer be able to complain about it for attention. Freaking upside down world we live in.
Agreed, social media feeds the narcissists and the sheer number of them gives me slight depression.
The SJW movement started long before elevator-gate. It goes right back to the 90's, even mainstream media started pushing it in the 90's. It started with the feminist movement, then was adapted for LGBT then most recently African Americans. They all use similar themes and methods, and they are now a power bloc under the Democrats. It started when the democrats sold out the working class, they needed something to stay relevant, a platform, and social justice was born. They realized early on that accusing others of sexism/racism was very effective at shutting people up and destroying opponents. This is why social justice has become so extreme and radical today.
I refuse to participate in anyone else's delusions because I'm having enough trouble with my own reality.
I refuse to because its delusional and would be to my disadvantage.
@@WES_5150used to be that affirming someone’s delusion was also disadvantageous to them
Joe identifies as being BLITZED, during this interview
He was absolutely lit!
thats what i was thinking LOL
Open your eyes Rogan!
"Gender, sex, race and sexual orientation; those 3."
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I am 35 but identify as 65 … where’s my pension check ?!?!
You sure you're only 35? That was boomer as fuck
This actually is a good one
@@klompsauce You’re weird
it's a good joke if you're a normie
HAHahaaha!!!! That's a great one.
Everyone wants to be the hero of their own story
It's more so that our generation thinks their life is a story worth telling, when in reality there are tons of people who came before you and more to come
I seem to be the villian of mine
Of other people's story
People want validation. Whether good or bad.
@@TooMuchDramaInTheMilkyWay wigger
I think it’s discussed so much because it’s affects kids, which ultimately affects society, and also is about determination of REALITY. Like how do we determine what is real?
In the words of Chris Rock: "Whatever happened to crazy? People can't be crazy no more?!" So glad I'm antisocial and don't like people. They can all stay away 😂
Then I guess you're asocial rather than antisocial. Unless you're diagnosed with A(S)PD.
@@NoNamer123456789 nah antisocial as in, anti… SociAL
@@gypsy-nr9zd exactly, antisocial =! asocial
@@NoNamer123456789 No I meant what I said. Antisocial. Stop with the pseudo psychology BS
@@gypsy-nr9zd Sorry that I've used the correct terminology.
I love that the mega super woke Spotify paid 100 million to grind their teeth watching Joe Rogan.
Except they've literally taken down tons of his episodes. Rogan hasn't had on anyone that is actually challenging the zeitgeist since his move to Spotify. They are all just pro-diversity Conservatives.
This comment deserves way more respect..
Thanks Joe!
Woke. Real woke. Not that fake shit. I've seem the elves.
@@zap3003 they didn’t take them down…they never ported them over. If Joe liked the guest and Spotify did not, they’re on Joe’s RUclips. I.e., this confirms what Joe’s said in the past, which is there are some people he had on long ago he regrets. He had Alex Jones on under the new contract. And no matter your opinion, Joe just collected full freedom money (well over the 100 mil reported) to eventually get his show back off the Spotify license to truly be untouchable.
A wise man once said “If I had a dollar for every gender, I would have two dollars and a bunch of Monopoly money.”
This is way more than you do you. I support that you do you. Keep the rest of us out of it.
"like a bounty hunter?" Joe is high af 🤣
Lol, was thinking the same thing.
Joe is definitely very high in this video lol
Definitely drunk lol
@@jfritch1446 That aint drunk buddy. Thats high, short loss of memory yet surprisingly accurate thinking patterns. "like a bouty hunter" is defs a high sentence, you'd have to be extra drunk to come up with this one.
He's feckin hey
Rogan is on a roll and his tremendous courage lending his platform to the counterculture (or "culture" prior to the emergence of critical theory) should be commended and supported. Bravo Rogan; stay sane and independent.
Agreed. I hope Joe continues to red pill and wake people up.
Won't be long before Spotify puts a stop to all that.
so being independent requires joe to believe in what you believe in?
typical
@@iLLWiLLTheMiCK no, being independent typically involves opposing mainstream narrative and doing your own research. When all of your political and social beliefs fall in line with every major corporation, big tech, big pharma, and every MSM news source chances are you are not independent.
@@iLLWiLLTheMiCK Not really. There are things I don't agree with but I think showing all angles is ultimately helpful and the discourse from traditional media is nothing but one-sided.
"It is usually futile to try to talk facts and analysis to people who are enjoying a sense of moral superiority in their ignorance."
-Thomas Sowell
did he gave a solution tho? because this is getting out of hand.
Living legend.
Thank jr for still posting yt videos!
I can't believe that I'm reminiscing about the old days when we internalized and repressed our psychological issues. I thought everything would be better once things got out into the open; sunlight as the disinfectant and so forth. Instead the suicide rate skyrocketed and we've all gone insane lol!
It got compartmentalised as gender. If it sounds ridiculous it's cos it is, but if youve been watching Tumblr since its inception like me, you know this is just regular old teen complexities and angst - for some reason turned explicitly into a sexual thing. Now I hate slippery slope fallacies as much aas the next anarchist, but... 😁
Yeah, it's therapy spilled out into the wider world. The point of therapy though is to open up all your traumas in an actual 'safe space' so that you can work through it and not have it spill out in the world. Last part got forgotten somewhere along the way.
You can't just be plain old gay anymore. It's not fringe enough. Won't get you enough attention and victim status these days.
I’m glad I’m not the only one.
Because we are dealing w big spoiled self righteous brats
The demand that you must conform to someone else's constantly changing identity to remain an accepted member of society is a child's game. It reminds me of three year olds who are infamous for demanding to control the big people in their lives or suffer montrous tantrums. Then it evolved into a competition where the only way the participants can gain any attention (going viral) is to find some new person, word, obscure historical fact, photo to get offended over. Carried to the extreme, they get offended by things people MIGHT say or do. Next comes the inevitable mob jumping on an unending list of new offense sthat must be obliterated. Pursued to its inevitable end they will find a gray, angry world that is void of the diversity they tout so loudly.
In all seriousness: why do you care? If someone born with male genitalia tells you she identifies as a woman, how does it hurt you?
@@christheghostwriter in al seriousness ho back read what I said.
@@divergentsenior I did. It's bullshit. You're just another media-manipulated tool who's up in arms over a problem that doesn't actually exist.
@@christheghostwriter
To quote Alan Greenspan: " I know you think you understand what you thought I said but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant"
Let's wish each other well and agree to disagree, OK?
That about sums it up in a nutshell. Very well put, sir
People in Ukraine aren't currently concerned with gender identity as they've got bigger things to worry about. Really speaks volumes as to how far we've come as a species. You don't have time to nitpick about the words others use when you don't know where your next meal is coming from or if you'll survive the night.
exactly. also, why call a rock a bird?
Not "as a species"-as a culture!
Should a doctor help a woman with anorexia find an excellent liposuction clinic so she will finally feel good about the body she is trapped in?
If not, why not?
Is an elective mastectomy much different?
@@glenliesegang8935 I genuinely do not understand the point you're trying to make.
@@glenliesegang8935 why is everybody talking beind trapped in a body? Wtf is wrong with people, how can one be trapped in their own loving body? The "crimes" against body and life energy are getting out of control
If you believe msm
the comments arent turned off?!?!.. thank god.. we HAVE to be able to talk about these things. How else will we learn?
One thing that bothers me about that Watson girl and people like her is they seem to be under the false impression that adult human beings are not sexual objects, or at least they can pick and choose when it suits them. That's not how sexuality works. You don't get to decide other people's attractions.
Imagine being so egotistical, that you demand that whole societies becomes asexual at your mood and whim!
No-one deserves to be harassed. But a first approach is interaction, not harassment. Therefore she was never harassed by anything but her own psyche.
Objectification.. wtf does it even mean. Just being attracted to someone apparently, and that swings both ways so i guess we're going extinct pretty soon!
You have to be a woman to understand why it is frightening to be alone with a man in a confined space and having that man making you advances. And if you don't get it, maybe imagine that woman in the lift is your wife, girlfriend, sister, daughter.
@@Marie-ex8nh a lot men have stopped even talking to women now. There are too many risks if the the other party decides to accuse you of something and ruin your life.
If being in a lift with a man is frightening, that is you projecting your fear because that man, having done nothing wrong, is made out to be a predator in your mind
@@knoaf9092 - Exactly. Someone’s fears and anxieties are not reality. I can imagine all kinds of things that might happen but never do.
Women don’t have the burden of having to make the first move. They can sit back, wait for approaches, and be picky. If it wasn’t the chad they were dreaming of, they get to nuke him on social media.
Meanwhile the poor guy who was testing the water to see if anything was there gets absolutely nuked for putting himself out there and taking a chance.
I’d like to see situations reversed and for a whole year, it’s up to females to make all of the first approaches and guys get to sit back and be picky. Women would quickly learn how tough it is to face rejection, even when you have the best intentions.
Besides, Men have many good reasons to fear women. Spend a few days around family court to realize what a horror show it is to be a male and be stupid enough to have married the wrong woman. The mental damage will last a lifetime and leads many to suicide. But who cares ... it’s just a man, right?
Right.
@@Marie-ex8nh I’m a woman, I don’t get it, it’s called human interaction, if he continued to pursue her, you may have a case but stop making up intimidation, it’s not only absolute nonsense but it takes away from the plight of women who are genuinely intimidated and harassed
When one's freedom imprisons others, then we got a problem.
Such as? What does a trans person who wants to live their life the way they want, how is that taking freedoms away? Look at the laws being passed by GOP and conservative dems. then come back and tell me.
@@tntbigshow4826 Probably has to do with fucking with people's freedom of speech. Canada had a law passed that affected just that.
@@Tecolote41 That isn't what was passed. Misgendering trans people can get them beaten or killed. Cry me a river on your so called "freedom" of speech.
@@Tecolote41
Stop sheeping for Rogan and Peterson. Here is from the actual law. This is what is in it. If you don't harass trans people, then you have no problem.
www.cbc.ca/cbcdocspov/features/canadas-gender-identity-rights-bill-c-16-explained
@@tntbigshow4826 How does calling someone a pronoun get them beaten or killed?
I identify as a king. My pronouns
are “his majesty” or “your majesty.”
Haha good one.......... Your majesty
@@mrmonkeynews587 😎
I'm going to use this now. Thank you for this gold my king.
@@gregabrams5792 you are a good subject
@@jaredmello 🤣
Chapelle said it best: “To what degree am I required to participate in your self-image? You don’t care about me. Why should I care about you?”
I’ll tell you why it’s a thing today Joe. Because there hasn’t been enough push back on it until recently.
People are starting to realize that if you give these people an inch, they’ll take 100 miles. So the nonsense never ends.
Actually because people are more comfortable discussing it. It's always been out there. People just couldn't say anything because it made people feel uncomfortable. Some things are uncomfortable to discuss and it doesn't mean we should ignore it.
@@xq8152 these people live in a vacuum. An echo chamber of nonsense. The first guy was right, pushback aka a healthy dose of reality is overdue.
@@hidiapol5617 Whose ready to have the conversation about the teenager with both sexual organs who has always been thought of as a boy. Until puberty hit and it became obvious to the parents that they were a girl. Who has always played sports with the boys. This country can't handle that discussion.
@@xq8152 woke ?
@@xq8152 ohhhhhh he called you woke... thems fighting words right there. you just gonna take that ? Seriously, people that use woke as an insult are morons
I’ve noticed a lot of people now also like to identify themselves as their health conditions. Some people keep searching for something that a doctor diagnosed and then latch onto it like it’s all they are. Life is suffering, you will always feel like shit. It’s called being human.
I’ve only noticed this recently, after seeing people calling themselves “long-haulers” if they’ve had COVID for an extended period of time; it’s trauma bonding but in the most unnecessary way. Why cling to illness, why make it a permanent part of your identity?
But I’m a Virgo and a Jew we’re naturally self centered, difficult self loathing and guilt ridden . 🥳
Right? Wtf is that shit about? "Hey, I have depression and that's what I'm basing my entire identity on."
@@classygary Why guilt ridden? Is it because you guys killed Jesus?
Hahahah gold. Look up the amazing racist on you tube - ha tries to get Jews to sign an apology for killing Jesus
Joe identifies as a sensory deprivation tank.
LMAOOOOO
😂 too accurate
Lmao!
At least he doesn't have bubble's
TheWokest
Joe identifies as fitness
You don’t have to accept anything you don’t want to But they don’t want to hear it
people in this generation have a strong desire to be different or “special”, and that explains a lot
Gen y, z, alpha?
And in fact, I think the best way to be ''special'' in our generation is to actually be against all of that bullshit.
Ouch. Don't do the "People in this generation" thing. No, we don't need to feel special. No we are not all the same.
More like people have always been different but in the old days if you said you were a different gender they just murdered you. People are trying to normalize it so those people can live without fear. Transgenders have existed since the dawn of humanity. Internet is just allowing them to live. This scares the oppressed. The right wing is afraid of anything different. Because when it comes to religions like christianity, nothing worse than being different.
i think it was always like this. The internet gives them a much bigger platform though.
Imagine the most interesting thing about your life being your gender identity
Omg this is so funny!
Have I mentioned I like women?
Wouldn't be surprised if most people subconsciously think this way.
I appreciate it when people cheer on a delusional demographic with a high suicide risk😀
Imagine meeting people that introduced themselves with their pro nouns
We got too "nice" and did not teach our young people that some cultural norms / traditions exist for a valuable reason.
Word brother
I think it's mainly the fault of the parents for not taking a larger interest in their children's education. Public schools have become more and more culturally Marxist over the last 3 generations. They are indoctrination camps, nothing more.. Yuri Bezmenov tried to warn us.
it literally started with Millenials.
@@mtsoko8712 word
@Reservoir Frogs By what metric could you possibly use to justify this statement? I'm a classical liberal and find almost no part of the democrat's policies in alignment with my views. What happened to the Blue Dog Democrats? They've gone the way of the dodo and in their place a seething angry mob of far left imbeciles (AOC being their ringleader) who push identity politics and victim hood to secure power for themselves.
I am a retired biologist and I can not understand how anyone can not realize there are two genders you are born one or the other and it can not be changed.
These topics are distractions from what is going on in the background politically. Bread and circuses.
What is going on in the background?
@@harrypetch-smith1333 collapse of core societal values and the suicidal goal of making us all androgynous, O B V I O U S L Y ??? lol
The greatest upward transfer of wealth in history. Whatever woke idiots are calling themselves these days they all agree with the tenet that society is inherently racist and must be torn down and reformed. Do you really think if they were anything but a bunch of clowns with no chance of ever achieving anything, that they would be welcomed in the Ivy Leagues and in big business? They're embraced because they can't do anything to anybody who matters or any institutiom that matters, and never will.
@@itsallfunandgames723 Divide and conquer. Let people argue about things that don't affect the bottom line of the powerful.
True Very True!
It is much easier to divide people when they separate themselves willingly.
This is extremely accurate.
Divide & conquer.
Wait til they all come together again though. It's gonna be big. Bigly even.
wtf, men and women aren't the same creature though.....having those categories divided.......well, seems like a LOT of our problems were solved by it in the past lol
ya'll just think everything our own ancestors did was evil HAHAH
Birds of a feather stick together. To advocate against this and make people force themselves to be around others that given the choice they would avoid only causes more hostility.
Pretty Simple, people who don’t know who they are want everyone else to spend their time and energy trying to guess who they are.
It's a bunch of soft middle and upper-class first-worlders that never have to deal with any ACTUAL adversity, so they create fake problems to then "struggle" with. None of these people have ever worked a hard job in their lives.
@@KZ_MMA-KZ How do you know anything about their lives ?
😂😂👏🏽
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I could totally understand the situation. I had a similar experience, I was abroad, staying in an apartment(airbnb), and as I was waiting for the elevator, this guy who looked around mid-40ish to early 50 started a conversation saying that he is separated from his wife and moved to this apartment. He asked me if I wanted to come over. No hello, or proper introduction, or small talk at all. I was 26 at the time. Even though we weren't in the elevator, it was more than enough to get scared and, to be honest, creeped out. I smiled and politely declined. The elevator came and he asked me why I wasn't getting on, and I acted like I got a phone call and told him I was gonna take the next one. The guy in the video says the man didn't do anything and was polite, but I don't think he fully understand how scary the situation could turn out. To be pursued in small tight, isolated place? I highly discourage anyone to do that.
I am a gay man and I am very upset that our reputation for DRAMA has been surpassed by trans people. There is no drama like trans drama. That's not fair!
Most of the gay and lesbian people I know do not want LGBTQ to include the T. I can see that because being trans isn’t about sexuality, it’s about gender. For example, GiGi Gorgeous I thought was a MTF without bottom surgery, so biological male but gendered as female. GiGi’s long time partner is a butch lesbian looking heiress, biological female but gendered somewhat ambiguous to male. So they’re bio man and woman but their genders are switched. Maybe this makes no sense but it’s interesting - point is, are you gay if you are a biological male who falls in love with a biological female?
Should have kicked the Ts out before they hijacked your movement. Now it's too late; you're stuck with them.
@@msi8311 I think that situation would make someone bisexual.. falling in love includes sexual desire. I love my female best friend but I'll never be in love with her
Wow Zayde, Maybe if you say stuff like that louder, straight people will like you more! Maybe they’ll even let you off the hook for being gay! Get ur brownie points !
@@visceralintentions9189 found the T trying to weasel it's way into the movement.
What's missing in the conversation is that so called activism in its extremist canceling form is simply trauma dumping, people who have real unhealed trauma (often. Sexual Trauma) who lash out as a trauma response. As a sexuality and relationship coach , I have seen it in my community, with my clients and in myself. As one heals, their relationship to the political conversation and to other people becomes much more centered.
Yes this makes so much sense, I think much of it is projecting their own trauma onto something else and latching on for dear life.
I think I might agree with this...maybe. Assuming I'm reading where you're coming from correctly. Guys who get involved wt far left extremism always seem to hate their fathers. Thats where it starts. Or they get groomed and diddled. Or their already brainwashed family indoctrinates them.
Then they go off to far left college(which is practically all a them) and join up with the indoctrination process. These schools also corrupt nice normal kids from like the midwest. Its like we're living under the tyranny of religious fanatics.
Well said, the biggest assumption that is made, is that oppressed, traumatised people are angels. No they are not. They are filled with unconscious rage, think in traumatic, distorted, split ways. They are not conscious of their rage, “people are doing things to them”. They should be treated with compassion whilst they work on healing and encouraged to focus on self care. That’s it.
@@sarahdlp524 that’s also why women should have safe spaces because as you said they’re trying to heal from a trauma why provoke their fear & rage by putting a biological male identifying as a woman into their therapy space?
Surely provoking fear & rage will prevent them reaching their healing phase?
Or they’re delusional, or worse, just want to appear virtuous while doing their best to cause harm to anyone who might have different views or not be on “their side”. Forcing your ideals on to someone and justifying it as inclusive is a ridiculous contradiction, especially when most can’t articulate their arguments beyond “I feel” or “my truth”. Just because someone screams about how oppressed they are doesn’t mean they have had it any worse than the people they are lambasting. It also shouldn’t earn them a pass.
It reminds me of an old saying, “the more they preached of their honour, the faster we counted the spoons”.
In all seriousness, I was "mentally off" growing up and admittedly desperate for attention and validation. It took me longer than most to become self aware and grow up. I would've been so screwed had all of this poisoned my head. Thankfully, youtube and social media didn't exist back then to document my cringe moments.
I appreciate you saying this brother as messed up as you think you could've been your in alot better spiritual and mental state then most people around you.
“No one knows exactly what our cultural framework is anymore” yessss!!! Omggg 😭 I am so scared for my future children.
The edibles said no, but joe did not listen.
I believe it is people not dealing with their inner selves/mental illness/disorder, wanting to fit into a "special" group, surrounded by people who tell them "you're brave, special and important" (cult like love bombing), and of course the need to be the epitome of correct (including the virtue signaling).
Narcissists is what becomes the product, a person disillusioned by their own lies, while forcing everyone around them to see their reality and live in it.
If that's your theory how then do you explain or view those who basically do the opposite? Meaning those who struggle internally therefore not getting special attention at all, rather the polar opposite, they may be closeted about their gender identity, avoid social situations, etc.
Just as many people exist in that internal suffering state as exist in this Gen Z unique snowflake thing you're calling narcissism.
@Topjunkie If you believe that, you may want to re-read, or you simply missed the point. Either way, best of luck to your life!
Sounds like you're describing Christianity and all other organized religions if you think about it.
@@AK-jm1sc Political affiliation comes to mind. But organized religion as well, agreed.
@@AK-jm1sc True, so can we now agree that lgbtq is simply a group of fanatics trying to convert people just like any religion out there?
This man articulated his argument to perfection. Hats off 🎩
"Again, I tell you...."-- Jesus/God(The Bible)
Ultimately, without the Bible(or God's power or revelation), philosophy and science will never be enough or be able to know what a Man or a Woman(or any other subject for that matter) is. And the process of defining terms and AGREEING or DISAGREEING to them seems to be an ad-infinitum or never-ending process LITERALLY. Agreement appears to also be a huge or necessary part of this whole debate that cannot be taken for granted. Jesus said: "If Two of You on Earth AGREE about ANYTHING...".-- Matthew 18:19.
Agreement seems to also be a necessary quality or aspect of truth(and in the reality of God himself or the trinitarian community "Itself") and without it, it appears to be just impossible for truth to be established in any way.
What Jesus said about AGREEMENT can also be used for twisted or evil purposes. And surely it has been used that way, and probably still is(the gay community being just one example. And the struggle that everybody has with sin in their lives being another).
"Again, I tell you, if ANY TWO of you on earth AGREE about ANYTHING it will be done...."(paraphrase)--Jesus/God(The Bible)
ruclips.net/video/2mIj-jedeRA/видео.html And Jesus says to those who feel skeptical about what I just said to try again or just "Do it Again"...
Thesis, (construction), antithesis, (de-construction) synthesis, (re-construction and equity), regeneration.
The purple haired women at Spotify HQ are going crazy right now.
@David it's a MAAM!
Rebecca Watson's twitter feed also REEEEE pretty hard.
@David "The purple haired women are going crazy right now"
I'm saying that Rebecca's feed is also "going crazy right now" [reeeeee]