"I support anyone's right to be who they wanna be. My question is: To what extent do I have to participate in your self-image?" -Dave Chappelle on trans people
@@patrickshepard3456 Yeah, one of the specials on Netflix, sorry, I can't remember which one. He tells a story about asking a transgender person's friends if the person was ok after falling down and all the friends got angry because Dave asked if "he" was ok....They yelled "You mean SHE!!"
@@Citylifesteve I mean she just gave her subjective opinion about being physically weaker than a male. She didn't comment about toxic masculinity or the patriarchy. You have to learn to distinguish between a real toxic feminist and just a normal woman online. She didn't even disagree with Jordan, she admitted that she's physically weaker and that sucks for her. This isn't a big deal.
@@Citylifesteve You read waaaay to into it man, she just considers it sad that she has a biological disadvantage against most males, if she were to be assaulted by a man she would have very little chance to defend herself succesfully, thats why she considers it sad
I willingly hop in that line. If you possess a penis you are a male, if you possess a vagina you are female. Anything other than those two scientifically proven genders is nothing but a fabrication of a mentally Disturbed mind..
“There’s a big difference between prejudice and discrimination” The word they were both looking for was discernment. Discernment allows you to make a judgment without being judgmental.
Wow how true: "You can't have preferences without having prejudices." Now that's a strong postulation that could lead into a contentious philosophical debate.
The quote is a non sequitur. There’s no logical relation between preference and prejudice. I suspect however that, rather than “prejudice”, what they were really referring to was something more along the lines of “bias” which does arguably have a logical relation to “preference”.
@@user-white007 dude kill that nonsense talk. You are no one else can take away freedom of choice. If you wish to do certain things weird or not is your prerogative take responsibility and keep it amongst those like you and respect other people wishes
The thing is, it _doesn't_ have to be discussed. It's something that some extreme activist on Twitter said, once...and then people like Peterson ran with it, and never shut up about it, as though it's some huge deal that every liberal is teaching their kids. The only reason anyone has heard that there are people with this opinion is because people like Peterson comb through Twitter looking for things that are woke that they can be outraged about. This is why people like him and the other anti-SJWs are hard to take seriously. They are just selling a slightly different kind of performative outrage from the kind the SJWs specialise in. It's the same kind of bullshit grievance mongering as some SJW pretending to be outraged about Darwin calling black people 'savages', only it's packaged differently, and sold to conservatives instead of lefties.
@AdmiralOddSock We don't care, that's your business. But you don't get to force everyone else to participate in your delusion. That's where you crossed the line.
@@paulw5039 No-one's forcing anyone ffs. Seriously, there are actual, important things to get exercised about. But you like getting your little jolt of outrage about meaningless culture war tribal bullshit and so we all have to listen to you whining about this.
@@thesprawl2361 They are forcing you, moron. That's precisely what Peterson was protesting. Compelled speech legislation. People like you are always so confident in their ignorance.
Yep, I'm a bigot, I've made my peace with it. I identify as a male bigot and don't see why everyone else has the right to identify as they please and I have to apologize for it. Nope, I won't 🖕
im black , but all my life ive always felt chinese , both my parents are black , ive done the dna test , i am 100% black and a child of my 100% black parents , but ive struggled , i was miss-raced , i feel chinese and that better expresses my person , i demand china to accept me and give me citizenship and for people to only greet me by saying ni-howw , i dont care , skin-colour and race are different , i might be black , but im chinese by race , that’s what i am , im not crazy, my pronouns are jackie chan and master sifu , i identify as trans-racial
i think when and if we did start implementing XY against XX chromosomes, there’s gonna be a nee thing called transchromosomes where they choose and feel that deep down they’re XX, and if you don’t agree, you’re chromophobic
As someone who is trans, I couldn't agree more. As a general rule of thumb, if you are not attracted to someone, and or they aren't a fit for the future you desire, you are doing the right thing by rejecting them (for both of you). On another note, it usually pays to be kind, so at least try. - I enjoy Jordans lectures, even if I don't necessarily agree with all of them.
I'm gay. I think it's really creepy how we've worked against conversion therapy to change who someone is attracted to, and now, we are expected to change who we are attracted to so that trans people don't feel bad. It's outrageous! I've been called transphobic for not wanting to date a trans man.
side note for u, if u disagree with him there is 99% chance u are wrong about the thing u disagree. That man is the deepest thinker of our time, and he doesnt do it for personal gains, he does things for the good.
@@el667a Aaand this is exactly how cult mentality works :D By the way: how "deep thinker" are you, that you dare to judge in such absolutes? How many great minds there are you know litteraly nothing about? How many ideas, you simply don't have capacity to appreciate? I know it might feel so great to finaly find that person who'm you can trust, whose word is basicly canonical. Who will strip you of the burden to compare multiple sources and deal with contradiction and conflict. But, belive me when I say, while Jordan is, to be sure, very "deep thinker", he is not worthy of absolute devotion. No man is! I am sorry to inform you, but unless you want to end up in a sorryful state even Jordan frequently wanrs against, you will have to think for your self for the rest of your life. You will have to fight your way through swamp of contradiction and try to reconsile at least some of it. "JP is The Deepest Thinkter and therefore, when someone contradicts him, he is probably wrong" is gnozeological framework maybe appropriate for 9 year old, but from there on dear Eldin, you kind of have to spread your wings... Good luck
@@Kvakonik thank u for the essay bro, now first of all, I'm the kind of person that never judges anything, never thinks from my perspective, and who doesn't have set goods and bads when i think for something, i look at opinions as purposes or wishes and consequences. That being said, the only way to find truth for me is to look at all possible opinions i can find on one topic and compare their short, medium and long term consequences. now second, its for sure i cant think as deep as some people for the reasons that i dont have enough knowledge about a lot of things, but i can understand other peoples talks and i can see how deeply their thoughts and knowledge are connected, when it comes to people of today, internet is our best way of finding these people, and after my whole life of seeing videos i saw, i never found the person get close to J Ps level, and i believe if there was he would pop up at least once, and i say this for one simple reason, because he is basing everything on science, and data, while others are basing opinions on beliefs or feelings which is invalid for me when in search of truth. and also for the cult thing, beliefs and science are two separate things, if there is a cult of science you can count me in
Having an understanding of the word Phobia is a marvellous thing to have. I do not like onions, i am not a fan of them. I choose not to consume them due to that dislike. I do not have a phobia of them, they are simply not to my taste. I chose to ignore them and would be angry if somebody tried to force them on me. I am not transphobic because i do not fear transgender people. Irrationally or rationally. I just do not care about them and will not be forced to do so. Arachnaphobia is real. A fear of something you could kill in a second is irrational. A lot of the people shouting about transphobia have an irrational fear of REALITY.
The trans community has found a way to change vocabulary to suit their needs and manipulate others into believing everything they say and do. For instance, gender identity disorder was changed to gender dysphoria instead because of the stigma associated with the word disorder. It's just silly. I have no problem with people being free and choosing to do whatever they want as long as no harm comes to others. I do have a problem with delusional thinking affecting society and culture. It makes no sense. Not all trans people are like this but it seems a good majority are. It is probably due to the scientifically proven higher rate of personal disorders in the trans community.
Lmaooo I have a bisexual friend and he’s tired of the whole lgbtq community. He said all he wanted to was to be able to marry who he wanted no matter the gender everything else to him is stupid. He calls them the alphabet people shit cracks me tf up everytime.
@@breadandbutter726 lmao i think the majority of gay or bi people don't agree with that shit. Its like why if your a bisexual you must have this ideology?! Thats weird they just wanna live their life happily
@@adammchugh5456 Says the guy who calls people rat turds for disagreeing with him.. BTW should I get fined or go to Canadian prison now that I assumed your gender and called you a guy? The only thing SJW like you tend to know about Jordan is that he was against just that.
We have all become so obsessed with offending someone for something, the fact we still have to argue about our own morality takes the fact of our personal choices away from us. To be told we are bigoted about our sexual preferences is as big a discrimination as choosing not to have that discussion.
I’m trans but I gotta agree here. Almost forcing someone to date you is disgusting behavior. I’ve been rejected a few times in my life and I learned to just respect someone’s preferences. Everyone is different and no one is going to change how they are just because you want to date them. Just move on to the next person as 7 billion of them live here
I love how South Park really shows just how ridiculous some of the things our society does is. On the surface it looks stupid cause it's just a cartoon, but the episodes are pretty accurate to a certain extent
This is exactly the point I've always seen as the reductio ad absurdum in terms of transgendering. A long as trans people keep the "trans" terminology when referring to themselves as a man or woman or whatever, I couldn't care less what they call themselves. Their lifestyle is their choice. I don't think anyone should mock or belittle them for it. But just as they ask us to respect their lifestyle choices, there has to be quid pro quo, i.e. respect the lifestyle choices and preferences of those who aren't looking for that in their intimate relationships. It's annoying when I have to be extra critical of the pics on a dating profile and realize something's not quite right, then scroll down to where they finally admit to being trans. That should have been honestly stated in the gender field initially. To be fair, that doesn't come up often, and most profiles of trans people I've seen do own up to it up front, but not all. And the fact that this has happened at all is exactly the issue. I remember some years ago having a conversation on this topic with a very Liberal woman friend, and she scorned me saying that trans people know better than to open themselves to that kind of situation and that it's just a homophobic myth that a trans woman would ever do otherwise than to mention that up front. I didn't feel like it was worth arguing, so agreed to disagree. Now I've seen it show up myself. It was eventually mentioned in their profile, but not in the initial gender field where it should have been. And the apps don't offer a preference to only show sys hetero profiles. I'm given a preference to only show women, I'm allowed to prefer a certain level of athleticism, of similar interests, etc. And the apps will try to show matches of those preferences, but not this one?
I really don't understand all the pro-trans popping up in the comments if someone says they don't want to date the same sex(modified). From all the angry comments, it seems trans dating should be fine lol. You do you, I'll do me. Guess I'm just a humble bigot tho.
@꧁꧂꧁꧂꧁꧂꧁꧂꧁꧂꧁꧂꧁꧂꧁꧂꧁꧂꧁꧂꧁꧂ ꧁꧂꧁꧂꧁꧂꧁꧂꧁꧂꧁꧂꧁꧂꧁꧂꧁꧂꧁꧂ that's like me telling a lesbian that she a dumb ass bitch just cus she don't want to have sex with me. Respect our sexuality while we gotta respect yours.
I am a seventy year old man. I feel no ill will towards gay men or women or bisexual or transgender people. I understand that " differing from the norm " has been historically difficult. I recall my first transgender person. I saw Christine Jorgensen on a TV show in the early sixties. I thought it was strange but it didn't impact my life. As I matured, I became aware of the concepts of homosexuality and lesbianism through life experiences. Nowadays, these and other proclivities have adopted a strident tone, demanding acceptance and attacking any who disagree. Isn't labeling someone as a bigot because they would prefer not to date a transgender person a dangerous prejudice?
Totally agree. Some like small women and some like them with long hair, large bottoms etc… not all women exhibit the same attributes and qualities. We don’t have to justify what external attributes we feel drawn to. At least, I don’t feel I have to. Freedom of choose what sex we define ourselves by is ok, freedom to choose who we feel attracted to is fundamental even if there is probably no such thing as independence of choice, as long as we do not look down or humiliate anyone, our freedom of choice does not have to be questioned. That’s my view and I rally don’t care about how it will be judged.
I remember when I used to work at a restaurant that the staff has to be flirtatious and attractive by some standards. It was in TX and the guys LOVED blondes. Other women of color would pout and call them racist, and I would always have to set them straight. You are not wrong for having personal preferences. This is crazy.
Prejudice doesn't necessarily mean 'hate', it just means that you've prejudged. Peterson should have used the term 'bias' because it is more clear. An example of prejudice: When I see a car driving slowly in front of me and wavering somewhat, I tend to prejudge that there is an elderly driver. Many times when I finally pass the car I see that I am correct, which reinforces that prejudice, but every once in awhile it is a new driver, or perhaps an inebriated driver, or perhaps just an XX. (My wife figures out the poor female drivers more often than me; it's a driving game that she often wins)
Over all the years of existence the people that got there feelings hurt got so upset that they made people's personal preferences everyones problem. When it should just stay personal, accepting someone's life style is okay. Telling others that they have to also practice it is not okay.
This is the best way to put this. We all ultimately have prejudices in everything. You cant expect people to just want what you tell them too. We're prejudiced or discriminate or whatever term you want to use in every facet of life. From what we eat to what we watch, to what we do for fun, to what we're attracted too.
I think when they turned on that Hadron Collider we slipped into a parallel universe where men believe they're women and women believe they're men and everybody has to wear a mask and celebrities can be presidents and everybody can relate to their struggle to 400 years of slavery and oppression of black people.
@@tomorrow9310 I've been warning people about that for years. They keep smashing particles and opening up little black holes and God only knows what's slipping through when they do.
Wait until 2029, Small chance of us getting hit by "Apophis". SMALL chance but still a chance. Now in 2060 something it will swing back around and hit us 100%
A guy I was dating told me he had previously dated a trans woman. He refused to tell me if she was post op or preop…not that it mattered to me. I am not homophobic or transphobic but he couldn’t wrap his mind around me not wanting to date him( a man that has sex with a man). It just is not my preference. I want a heterosexual man. Simple.
There also medical reality to this. The CDC says that bisexual and gay men have higher incidents of STIs and HIV due to the riskier kind of sex. Women (human adult females) can easily get infected due to their genitalia being more vunerable. Why would any straight woman want to be expose to that type of risk?
I literally just came across a video where the men in the comments said they liked both trans and natural born women. They considered themselves straight 😂 it’s so scary and sad because like you I’d NEVER date a man that date trans women
💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖 love these guys. They're like a little light of sanity in a world that's being pushed into radical acceptance at the exspence of everyone who ISN'T Trans.
@@catcollector719 yea it is they were born the same gender as you that would mean your gay. They only identify as the other gender vs actually being that gender.
@@catcollector719 Yea it's a natural-born female. If they get a sex change and have a dick then I would say they are more or less a man and that would be gay. You are born a gender and if you don't get surgery to have the parts of that gender then you are still the same gender you were born.
South Park episode on this is hilarious. Macho Man Randy Savage competing against Strong Woman in althetics as a woman, taking every medal. His trash talking is funny as hell
Lmao, I got another similar one for you from another ancient mind "If the woman you are with has an apple on the neck, you must prepare for a sword fight." - Sun Tzu, _The Art of War_
I dated a guy that shamed me for not wanting to date him anymore once he told me he dated and slept with a trans woman. I to,d him I’m all for acceptance and gay rights but I don’t want to date a man that had sex with a man…because I wanted a heterosexual man. He to,d me a trans woman is no different than a biological woman…I was in awe of the illogical gymnastics he went through to feel better and blocked him.
This is a gret discussion, based on facts and not in prejudice. Congratulations. People have been fearful of discussing such issues in a really reasonable conversation.
People say I’m Hispanic because my skin is brown, I speak Spanish and have dark hair and eyes. But long time ago I identified as an aryan German. I demand to see me as such. I’m butthurt.
@@burgerking8475 trans people themselves. Some of them are trying to get men to look down upon women and date them instead, even if the guy is straight. You can easily look it up, this stuff is nonsense.
Idk about that, it seems like a very natural discussion to have regarding gender and how we use in in society. Its very comforting that people accept trans people enough to even have this discussion. (When they actually take it seriously)
@@Christopher-ct1dw It’s really not just about accepting trans people though. They’re pointing out that recently (or not at all) transitioned trans women are gonna have an absolutely devastating advantage when competing against cis women in most sports, especially combat and contact sports. They’re saying that this should be so obvious that it shouldn’t even need to be elaborated on, which is correct.
@@otoyoto7153 I agree that trans women have a clear advantage over cis women in sports and a disadvantage in cis male sports, but I think that recognising this has also opened us up to more discussions about why we have these separations in the first place, and where trans folk would fit in with the current separations or if we should change how we separate them to accommodate more variables such as trans people or other biological advantages.
You're definitely right, I mean there's actually other ways you can get yourself knocked up if you wanna plop out some critters too, but a man is the easiest for sure.
Exactly a man who turned into a women will never be able to have kids so it just shows you can’t bend nature or try fuck around with it otherwise bad things happen
There's a fine line between what's considered to be fairness, and insanity. Never-the-less that line is there. Can you see it? The questions turn into issues of freedom. Should a human being be allowed to be free in this world, to be able to choose according to their own desires, or should they hand over their freedom of choice to other people, groups, government etc.?
Social media gave a voice to people who for the most part should be avoided. Is it about being trans or gay or is about you shoving your lifestyle in peoples faces to promote a response you can capitalize on
Dave F you’re right, instead of the flying cars and moon colonies I imagined as a kid, we’ve become relegated to regressive arguments no sane person could have anticipated. So sad it’s funny.
@@davef6337 please join and share this discord server if you're interested. discord.gg/7Sa2CNWGQv The purpose of this server is to create a platform for anti-left people to freely share ideas.
This movement revolves around the idea that, "you have to abide by my feelings, regardless of how it in itself, makes you feel." And it's becoming more and more ridiculous. It is not a law for me to tailor my views, so that it pleases your sensibilities.
@Mr Gronk I don't know how you got the impression that I'm being sarcastic or condensing from what I wrote. I actually just meant what I said, I like the 'quote'. It's actually a good comeback to some dumb questions or statements made by feminists, SJW ... (well that's if your comment is actually meant to be a correction or some sort of explaining the point of what he said)
@@mentalsmith6862 It was not, he was agreeing with you and, well, it was prety obvious, but i understand you in this one, these days we never know people are just fking crazy in the head.
OurCrafter The A-10 has twin turbofan engines so they can fly at higher altitudes where the air(oxygen) is thinner and is needed for combustion. Helicopters don’t need that.
I cannot on any level understand the denial of the fact that somebody who is a biological male has a significant physical advantage over females in sports. It's mad that we've come to the point we can't even say that.
i literally just had a trans person try and stealth me on hinge. but I remembered seeing her profile on tinder months ago and at that point she disclosed that info freely, so I swiped left. all good when she likely a pic of mine of hinge now say 9 months later, not only was it not disclosed anywhere (her profile said female/straight) but in the bio it said I'm I'm not shitting you "be yourself, be honest and don't play games. when I sent back a massage saying its a little hypocritical to expect people to be honest when you aren't honest with them that you were born male she had a hissy fit and reported my account for transphobic behavior
You should have reported his account for misleading claims. People like that are so unhinged they can become violent when rejected. Anyone who meets them IRL is putting themselves in danger
@@ohwellwhateverr knowing these dating sites these days I would get banned for being transphobic. It's ok I took pics of their profile and the txt exchange and if anything happened to my account I would have been getting a lawyer involved
inb4 Brock has some kind of awakening and realises all his life he was supposed to be female and then hunts down and hospitalises every single female in mixed martial arts
I have never seen a woman that weight that wasn't mostly fat, I've seen them push up to around 200lb at best naturally if they are over 6 foot and a freak of nature but they'd have to allow a shitload of steroids to be even half as big as Brock/Brooke would be on oestrogen...
@@danfc3s exactly for a women to even get to heavyweight would have to put so much stress on there body to even get to 200 it’s just maths I mean would do you expect a women heavyweight champion of the world seriously
As Joe is someone engaged in combat sports, I expected him to also to use the weight classes argument in MMAs or Boxing. I mean when men fight men, they were mindful not to engage men of vast difference in weight as it’s also unfair for a lightweight to flight a heavyweight. So if we go to this much differentiation within the same gender, how can we simply ignore the role of growing up with Testosterone in shaping the body. Weight transition is possible however like the case of Manny Pacquiao who competed and won in 8 different weight classes (thanks Wikipedia :D)
Hugh Ropp someone like Brock Lesnar going up against anyone under his weight class is entirely mismatched, size and weight are two of the biggest factors in a fight
@Hugh Ropp So you're saying the bigger man wins most of the time? Dude there is a reason combat sports have weight classes. If Lesnar were to fight Mighty Mouse (arguably one of the best MMA fighters of all time), who would win? Lesnar would thrash him with one arm behind his back.
You are 100% correct. Not only this, but men also train against men, who go hard with each other. Odds are, if you are a women, while training, you likely don't get pressed as hard because nobody wants to be the guy picking on a girl, and maybe the men let you win because nobody wants to be the dick bullying the girl. So even with biological differences aside, in a male dominated sport, such as mma, women would have a hard time keeping up just because of how the gender roles are defined within the sport.
@Hugh Ropp ohhhhh sorry I didn't know you were clinically an idiot, my bad! You're talking about super small percentages. Sure, I could beat Jon Jones. That one time out of 10 milion because he made a mistake. It's not the norm. If you have 2 virtually identical fighters weighing 200lb and 175lbs, the bigger guy will have an advantage advantage, you literally can't argue that. I'm not even going to get into the woman vs men thing because it's already been biologically disproven.
Its sad that thats the reality you live in. PC-Police are close by too but not so militant. The "progressive" People are tying society up in knots and villinising innocent people.
So we finally achieved acceptance of the LGBT community, to some extent, where the argument was one shouldn't shame another based on their sexuality. And now, shaming a man for being heterosexual is ok? Nope. Sorry but if I dated a guy who turned around a few months down the track and said oh by the way, I have a vagina, I'd be gone and pretty annoyed. There is no need to deceive people in this day and age. I have two kids, and I know single mothers who deliberately hide that fact from men out of selfishness to try and get him emotionally attached and less likely to reject them. I mean, do you want to have that moment where he feels lied to and ultimately leaves anyway because he ain't about that life? I sure don't. I've always told them from the jump and if they decline I completely get it, some men can't handle it and there's nothing wrong with them for feeling that way. If everyone has the right to choose who they are intimate with, then everyone has the right to make an INFORMED choice on who they are intimate with.
Ya, that is pathetic, I believe that is cruel to hide your kids from a potential partner. I would think that impacts the kids, what if they found that out
@@dennis1662 actaully I identify as a billionaire with godlike powers and can make any woman fall in love with so add 53 and also if the goverment doesn't give a billion dollars and girls don't have sex with me when I say so then they are transphobic and should go too hell for defying me since I'm a billionaire with godlike powers and can make any woman fall in love with me My preferred pronouns are GOD and godlike billionaire
The reason why single moms don't always tell the guys about kids upfront, but after a certain amount of time is usually to protect their children from predators. There is no need to tell them until you want to proceed with a committed relationship. You have no idea how dangerous the world is for women and children without protection.
Thats the thing, he wouldn't even need a sex change, some advocates for trans athletes don't even think he would need testosterone treatment for it to be fair.
Nice, so basically if people are not allowed to have any preferences, then I can call the cops on any hot woman who rejects me when I try to hit on her, because that is "hate speech" against me or something. _Maybe_ a little bit absurd and ridiculous, but let's roll with that, lmao.
"I support anyone's right to be who they wanna be. My question is: To what extent do I have to participate in your self-image?" -Dave Chappelle on trans people
was this in one of his comedy specials?
@@patrickshepard3456 Yeah, one of the specials on Netflix, sorry, I can't remember which one. He tells a story about asking a transgender person's friends if the person was ok after falling down and all the friends got angry because Dave asked if "he" was ok....They yelled "You mean SHE!!"
Lmao
Dave don't lie simple
Mike Lowrey BB at this point we should just start referring to people as “it” like they’re some kind of xenomorph alien or some shit lol what a joke
"A really tough woman can beat a variety of men, but a really tough man can beat all women" nailed it
I’m a woman and completely agree. It’s just a fact of nature.
@@Citylifesteve How on earth did her statement offend you?
@@Citylifesteve I mean she just gave her subjective opinion about being physically weaker than a male. She didn't comment about toxic masculinity or the patriarchy. You have to learn to distinguish between a real toxic feminist and just a normal woman online. She didn't even disagree with Jordan, she admitted that she's physically weaker and that sucks for her. This isn't a big deal.
@@Citylifesteve Oh shut the fuck up already
@@Citylifesteve You read waaaay to into it man, she just considers it sad that she has a biological disadvantage against most males, if she were to be assaulted by a man she would have very little chance to defend herself succesfully, thats why she considers it sad
"You're a bigot if you don't want to date a "trans woman." I'm proud to say I'm a bigot, then. No problem.
I willingly hop in that line. If you possess a penis you are a male, if you possess a vagina you are female. Anything other than those two scientifically proven genders is nothing but a fabrication of a mentally Disturbed mind..
So many men, have zero problem with saying trans women are` women. Yet biology begins, where their dicks stop. Thanks Randolph! You are not a bigot.
Yeah
I'm transphobic. I'm terrified of those things.
im proud to say you should never have been born
The whole "If you don't want to engage in a sexual relationship with me, there will be consequences" mindset is predatory af.
Half the world goes to bed hungry and we just are inventing drama in the West...
In several ways you are completely correct.
Exactly!
Yup 100%. When a society gets too decadent we need to start inventing all this dumb bs.
I really want to get off this bullshit planet. We are de-evolving.
More die from obesity than malnutrition
I actually really like the idea of the chromosome law in sports, xy against xy and xx against xx. Fair is fair
yes, case in point Caster Semenya. How is it fair for them to compete in womens sport when they were miles ahead of all the actual women in attendance
Wtf
@@ruisu_319 Wtf wtf
Biden signed an executive order for transgender woman to compete therefore biological females are being discriminated against.
Some cxnts going to show up that identifies as Z
“There’s a big difference between prejudice and discrimination”
The word they were both looking for was discernment.
Discernment allows you to make a judgment without being judgmental.
the word i am seeing is 'nonsense'...need i explain?
Wow how true:
"You can't have preferences without having prejudices."
Now that's a strong postulation that could lead into a contentious philosophical debate.
I see no debate. Especially with this context. If they have the right to be LGBT and do wtf they want then I have too the right to reject that.
The quote is a non sequitur. There’s no logical relation between preference and prejudice. I suspect however that, rather than “prejudice”, what they were really referring to was something more along the lines of “bias” which does arguably have a logical relation to “preference”.
yes, a mass debate
@@FrankGrauJr No he very clearly meant prejudice.
@@lolitis01 Then he needs to be more clear as to how he makes the connection between prejudice and preference.
Am I fatphobic because I'm not attracted to fat women? Obviously not.
Truth Reigns Forever “NOOOOO EVERYONE IS EQUAL” stupid fucking commies
@@user-white007 dude kill that nonsense talk. You are no one else can take away freedom of choice. If you wish to do certain things weird or not is your prerogative take responsibility and keep it amongst those like you and respect other people wishes
That depends on if you yourself are fat.
@@shanesimpson4407 good one!
@@user-white007 i think commies would have gotten rid of these people by now
I think its crazy this even has to be discussed.
The thing is, it _doesn't_ have to be discussed. It's something that some extreme activist on Twitter said, once...and then people like Peterson ran with it, and never shut up about it, as though it's some huge deal that every liberal is teaching their kids. The only reason anyone has heard that there are people with this opinion is because people like Peterson comb through Twitter looking for things that are woke that they can be outraged about.
This is why people like him and the other anti-SJWs are hard to take seriously. They are just selling a slightly different kind of performative outrage from the kind the SJWs specialise in. It's the same kind of bullshit grievance mongering as some SJW pretending to be outraged about Darwin calling black people 'savages', only it's packaged differently, and sold to conservatives instead of lefties.
Absolutely right Jake. This is crazy and anyone who defends it is crazy.
@AdmiralOddSock We don't care, that's your business. But you don't get to force everyone else to participate in your delusion. That's where you crossed the line.
@@paulw5039 No-one's forcing anyone ffs. Seriously, there are actual, important things to get exercised about. But you like getting your little jolt of outrage about meaningless culture war tribal bullshit and so we all have to listen to you whining about this.
@@thesprawl2361 They are forcing you, moron. That's precisely what Peterson was protesting. Compelled speech legislation. People like you are always so confident in their ignorance.
Yep, I'm a bigot, I've made my peace with it. I identify as a male bigot and don't see why everyone else has the right to identify as they please and I have to apologize for it. Nope, I won't 🖕
I too have come to peace with the fact I'm a misogynist. In a world where misandry is normalised, a revolutionary act is to become as such.
im black , but all my life ive always felt chinese , both my parents are black , ive done the dna test , i am 100% black and a child of my 100% black parents , but ive struggled , i was miss-raced , i feel chinese and that better expresses my person , i demand china to accept me and give me citizenship and for people to only greet me by saying ni-howw , i dont care , skin-colour and race are different , i might be black , but im chinese by race , that’s what i am , im not crazy, my pronouns are jackie chan and master sifu , i identify as trans-racial
😆 🤣 😂
you wouldn't consider trans-financial?
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Like everybody wants to be some jackie chan nowadays
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣
I wish my girlfriend talked about me as much as Joe Rogan talks about Brock Lesnar.
I wish my girlfriend stopped talk about Brock Lesnar
I wish Dana White and Mr. McMahon would fight for me like they fight for Brock Lesnar
SiMp
Ditch your girl and find yourself a transgender.
@@jjun2891 Leave her and find yourself a real one. Let her have her Brock Lesnar.
i think when and if we did start implementing XY against XX chromosomes, there’s gonna be a nee thing called transchromosomes where they choose and feel that deep down they’re XX, and if you don’t agree, you’re chromophobic
dont give them any more ideas lol
They're probably reading this while taking notes right now.
dont give them ideas, seriously dont
Honestly...who is afraid of a gay person? 🤣
Commenting cause when this inevitably happens i want to show people this
As someone who is trans, I couldn't agree more. As a general rule of thumb, if you are not attracted to someone, and or they aren't a fit for the future you desire, you are doing the right thing by rejecting them (for both of you). On another note, it usually pays to be kind, so at least try.
- I enjoy Jordans lectures, even if I don't necessarily agree with all of them.
I'm gay. I think it's really creepy how we've worked against conversion therapy to change who someone is attracted to, and now, we are expected to change who we are attracted to so that trans people don't feel bad. It's outrageous! I've been called transphobic for not wanting to date a trans man.
i agree. personally i have been with a trans person but my tastes dont align with everyone on the planet
side note for u, if u disagree with him there is 99% chance u are wrong about the thing u disagree. That man is the deepest thinker of our time, and he doesnt do it for personal gains, he does things for the good.
@@el667a Aaand this is exactly how cult mentality works :D
By the way: how "deep thinker" are you, that you dare to judge in such absolutes? How many great minds there are you know litteraly nothing about? How many ideas, you simply don't have capacity to appreciate?
I know it might feel so great to finaly find that person who'm you can trust, whose word is basicly canonical. Who will strip you of the burden to compare multiple sources and deal with contradiction and conflict.
But, belive me when I say, while Jordan is, to be sure, very "deep thinker", he is not worthy of absolute devotion.
No man is!
I am sorry to inform you, but unless you want to end up in a sorryful state even Jordan frequently wanrs against, you will have to think for your self for the rest of your life.
You will have to fight your way through swamp of contradiction and try to reconsile at least some of it.
"JP is The Deepest Thinkter and therefore, when someone contradicts him, he is probably wrong" is gnozeological framework maybe appropriate for 9 year old, but from there on dear Eldin, you kind of have to spread your wings...
Good luck
@@Kvakonik thank u for the essay bro,
now first of all,
I'm the kind of person that never judges anything, never thinks from my perspective, and who doesn't have set goods and bads when i think for something, i look at opinions as purposes or wishes and consequences.
That being said, the only way to find truth for me is to look at all possible opinions i can find on one topic and compare their short, medium and long term consequences.
now second, its for sure i cant think as deep as some people for the reasons that i dont have enough knowledge about a lot of things, but i can understand other peoples talks and i can see how deeply their thoughts and knowledge are connected, when it comes to people of today, internet is our best way of finding these people, and after my whole life of seeing videos i saw, i never found the person get close to J Ps level, and i believe if there was he would pop up at least once, and i say this for one simple reason, because he is basing everything on science, and data, while others are basing opinions on beliefs or feelings which is invalid for me when in search of truth.
and also for the cult thing, beliefs and science are two separate things, if there is a cult of science you can count me in
Having an understanding of the word Phobia is a marvellous thing to have. I do not like onions, i am not a fan of them. I choose not to consume them due to that dislike. I do not have a phobia of them, they are simply not to my taste. I chose to ignore them and would be angry if somebody tried to force them on me.
I am not transphobic because i do not fear transgender people. Irrationally or rationally. I just do not care about them and will not be forced to do so.
Arachnaphobia is real. A fear of something you could kill in a second is irrational.
A lot of the people shouting about transphobia have an irrational fear of REALITY.
Excellent explanation! TKU
But onions have layers. Delicious layers that stink, make you cry, and turn brown when you leave them in the sun sprouting little white hairs.
The trans community has found a way to change vocabulary to suit their needs and manipulate others into believing everything they say and do. For instance, gender identity disorder was changed to gender dysphoria instead because of the stigma associated with the word disorder. It's just silly. I have no problem with people being free and choosing to do whatever they want as long as no harm comes to others. I do have a problem with delusional thinking affecting society and culture. It makes no sense. Not all trans people are like this but it seems a good majority are. It is probably due to the scientifically proven higher rate of personal disorders in the trans community.
Remember when LGBT rights were about "respecting sexuality"
Lmaooo I have a bisexual friend and he’s tired of the whole lgbtq community. He said all he wanted to was to be able to marry who he wanted no matter the gender everything else to him is stupid. He calls them the alphabet people shit cracks me tf up everytime.
@@breadandbutter726 lmao i think the majority of gay or bi people don't agree with that shit. Its like why if your a bisexual you must have this ideology?! Thats weird they just wanna live their life happily
Is Ricky's last name really Lafleur?
I remember when LGBT used to be just LGB. That was maybe only 7 years ago, things got out of hand real fast
Now it's about actively denying reality.
I love Jordan, he cuts strait through all the bullshit with crystal clear common sense
By using uncommon sense.
you mustn't be able to understand particularly nuanced discussion then. he's a rat turd,
@@zacharyradford5552 This sentence is unfortunately true.. well put.
@@adammchugh5456 Says the guy who calls people rat turds for disagreeing with him..
BTW should I get fined or go to Canadian prison now that I assumed your gender and called you a guy? The only thing SJW like you tend to know about Jordan is that he was against just that.
We have all become so obsessed with offending someone for something, the fact we still have to argue about our own morality takes the fact of our personal choices away from us.
To be told we are bigoted about our sexual preferences is as big a discrimination as choosing not to have that discussion.
do not worry...nobody is gonna take anything away from you...do not comply!
I don’t give a fuck I’ll offend everyone and I don’t care about there feelings
I’m trans but I gotta agree here. Almost forcing someone to date you is disgusting behavior. I’ve been rejected a few times in my life and I learned to just respect someone’s preferences. Everyone is different and no one is going to change how they are just because you want to date them. Just move on to the next person as 7 billion of them live here
I identify as Godzilla. I was banned from Tokyo.
😂😂😂
Lmfao 😂😂💀💀
king kong here bro , im banned from us
I am dead 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I identify as mecha-Godzilla. Fight me, coward
"You can't have preferences without having prejudices" - J. Peterson.
This isn't even a thing...
Not dating men = being a bigot can only be Lefty.
I'm not prejudice against foreigners,
I just prefer their women
Men reproduce with women. Been that way for millions of years, let’s not fuck with it
Yeah 3:37 imma use that next time some girl rejects me 😂
Oliver Man me too brother, me too
I reserve my right to reject someone as a romantic/sexual partner for any number of reasons and also no reason at all.
Yeah, it is understandeable.
Just for the record... A trans woman is a guy.
The xy chromosome tells the tale and it doesn't care about anyone's feelings.
@@johnc.8298 lmao
It's like the South Park episode where Macho Man becomes trans and running through the women's Olympics
Lmaooo Really??
“I’m not here to talk about my transition,I’m here to kick some fuckin’ ass” 😆
Becomes pc principal's kryptonite😆
C’mon guys,it’s all ball bearings these days Great episode. South Park is vastly underrated.
I love how South Park really shows just how ridiculous some of the things our society does is. On the surface it looks stupid cause it's just a cartoon, but the episodes are pretty accurate to a certain extent
Whoever imagines Brock Lesnar with a dress don’t worry, you’re not alone.
Google his daughter....
@@rustyshackleford1040 jesus, its literally him in a leotard...
😅😅
Ehmyr i would put my money on her if she fought a man
That’s literally his daughter.....
"Everything isnt the same about everything all the time" Beautiful.
This is exactly the point I've always seen as the reductio ad absurdum in terms of transgendering. A long as trans people keep the "trans" terminology when referring to themselves as a man or woman or whatever, I couldn't care less what they call themselves. Their lifestyle is their choice. I don't think anyone should mock or belittle them for it. But just as they ask us to respect their lifestyle choices, there has to be quid pro quo, i.e. respect the lifestyle choices and preferences of those who aren't looking for that in their intimate relationships. It's annoying when I have to be extra critical of the pics on a dating profile and realize something's not quite right, then scroll down to where they finally admit to being trans. That should have been honestly stated in the gender field initially. To be fair, that doesn't come up often, and most profiles of trans people I've seen do own up to it up front, but not all. And the fact that this has happened at all is exactly the issue. I remember some years ago having a conversation on this topic with a very Liberal woman friend, and she scorned me saying that trans people know better than to open themselves to that kind of situation and that it's just a homophobic myth that a trans woman would ever do otherwise than to mention that up front. I didn't feel like it was worth arguing, so agreed to disagree. Now I've seen it show up myself. It was eventually mentioned in their profile, but not in the initial gender field where it should have been. And the apps don't offer a preference to only show sys hetero profiles. I'm given a preference to only show women, I'm allowed to prefer a certain level of athleticism, of similar interests, etc. And the apps will try to show matches of those preferences, but not this one?
This is what happens when you give out participation trophies 🏆
I really don't understand all the pro-trans popping up in the comments if someone says they don't want to date the same sex(modified). From all the angry comments, it seems trans dating should be fine lol. You do you, I'll do me. Guess I'm just a humble bigot tho.
FACTS
@꧁꧂꧁꧂꧁꧂꧁꧂꧁꧂꧁꧂꧁꧂꧁꧂꧁꧂꧁꧂꧁꧂ ꧁꧂꧁꧂꧁꧂꧁꧂꧁꧂꧁꧂꧁꧂꧁꧂꧁꧂꧁꧂ that's like me telling a lesbian that she a dumb ass bitch just cus she don't want to have sex with me. Respect our sexuality while we gotta respect yours.
Exactly
Ok, Brian
I am a seventy year old man. I feel no ill will towards gay men or women or bisexual or transgender people. I understand that " differing from the norm " has been historically difficult. I recall my first transgender person. I saw Christine Jorgensen on a TV show in the early sixties. I thought it was strange but it didn't impact my life. As I matured, I became aware of the concepts of homosexuality and lesbianism through life experiences. Nowadays, these and other proclivities have adopted a strident tone, demanding acceptance and attacking any who disagree. Isn't labeling someone as a bigot because they would prefer not to date a transgender person a dangerous prejudice?
Too many big words in there for anyone upset about gender stuff to understand
@@aelechko If that is the case, then get a dictionary and read more to improve your vocabulary, why should everything be dumbed down for the stupid?
Totally agree. Some like small women and some like them with long hair, large bottoms etc… not all women exhibit the same attributes and qualities. We don’t have to justify what external attributes we feel drawn to. At least, I don’t feel I have to. Freedom of choose what sex we define ourselves by is ok, freedom to choose who we feel attracted to is fundamental even if there is probably no such thing as independence of choice, as long as we do not look down or humiliate anyone, our freedom of choice does not have to be questioned. That’s my view and I rally don’t care about how it will be judged.
@@aelechko 😁
@@aelechko Exactly. Hence why these kids need to go back to being kids
I can see it now...."Today on ESPN, the first ever XX Games."
I remember when I used to work at a restaurant that the staff has to be flirtatious and attractive by some standards. It was in TX and the guys LOVED blondes. Other women of color would pout and call them racist, and I would always have to set them straight. You are not wrong for having personal preferences. This is crazy.
"You can't have preferences without any prejudices."
~Jordan Peterson
"Imagine Brock Lesner in a wig and a dress"
- Joe Rogan
When you copy a comment.
@@DARTH-R3VAN and change one word
That's bullshit. I prefer Jordan over LeBron that doesn't mean I hate LeBron.
Prejudice doesn't necessarily mean 'hate', it just means that you've prejudged. Peterson should have used the term 'bias' because it is more clear. An example of prejudice: When I see a car driving slowly in front of me and wavering somewhat, I tend to prejudge that there is an elderly driver. Many times when I finally pass the car I see that I am correct, which reinforces that prejudice, but every once in awhile it is a new driver, or perhaps an inebriated driver, or perhaps just an XX. (My wife figures out the poor female drivers more often than me; it's a driving game that she often wins)
We need to appreciate Jordan while he is still in this world
He needs to be catapulted into every possible spotlight , but how ?!
No
@Russell Weber I'm genuinely curious, why do you say that?
@@likeafamily4life He hates him because he told him the truth
He'll be promoted to god once hes in heaven. The god of bibliocacy and intelligence
Nice to hear common sense applied. Well done gentlemen.
Over all the years of existence the people that got there feelings hurt got so upset that they made people's personal preferences everyones problem. When it should just stay personal, accepting someone's life style is okay. Telling others that they have to also practice it is not okay.
is a lesbian a bigot if she doesn't want to date me?
By their terms no. Because the trans person truly believes they're a woman and likes men, which makes them straight(?). Whereas lesbians like women.
@@zacherydixon7969 well then you just tell them you're genderfluid and feel like a woman today lol
@@iamyourpc you're not wrong lol
@@iamyourpc That could sadly work
no, you are an idiot for asking that though.
This went from «dont judge us» to «if you dont role play w me you are fired»
Yes, mere "acceptance" became "stated outright compliance"
This is the best way to put this. We all ultimately have prejudices in everything. You cant expect people to just want what you tell them too. We're prejudiced or discriminate or whatever term you want to use in every facet of life. From what we eat to what we watch, to what we do for fun, to what we're attracted too.
You can force people to pretend to not have prejudices, you can't make them not have them.
2:40 this part always kills me 🤣
We're about due for an asteroid, aren't we? Probably overdue.
I think when they turned on that Hadron Collider we slipped into a parallel universe where men believe they're women and women believe they're men and everybody has to wear a mask and celebrities can be presidents and everybody can relate to their struggle to 400 years of slavery and oppression of black people.
@@tomorrow9310 I've been warning people about that for years. They keep smashing particles and opening up little black holes and God only knows what's slipping through when they do.
Way overdue.
Wait until 2029, Small chance of us getting hit by "Apophis". SMALL chance but still a chance. Now in 2060 something it will swing back around and hit us 100%
@@owensnider4208 You had me worried for a second that we wouldn't get destroyed.
Not gonna lie, I would love to see Brock Lesnar dressed up like Mimi from Drew Carey going full rampage in the octogon. That's just good TV.
Brock Lesnar is going to debut as the new REIGNING, DEFENDING, UNDEFEATED WWE WOMENS WORLD HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION
@@PsychMdM Brooke Lesnar would be the bell of the brawl. 😤
Fuckin retarted,this world and the weirdos in it have gone insane
Cleveland rocks!
@@jamessanchez3283 "retarted" bro come on?
A guy I was dating told me he had previously dated a trans woman. He refused to tell me if she was post op or preop…not that it mattered to me. I am not homophobic or transphobic but he couldn’t wrap his mind around me not wanting to date him( a man that has sex with a man). It just is not my preference. I want a heterosexual man. Simple.
There also medical reality to this. The CDC says that bisexual and gay men have higher incidents of STIs and HIV due to the riskier kind of sex. Women (human adult females) can easily get infected due to their genitalia being more vunerable. Why would any straight woman want to be expose to that type of risk?
Fid u date him after i didnt understand
I literally just came across a video where the men in the comments said they liked both trans and natural born women. They considered themselves straight 😂 it’s so scary and sad because like you I’d NEVER date a man that date trans women
@@teeciewalk Because they are homosexual.......NOT straight.
@@tiathompson6674 exactly!!! They swear up and down they are
💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖 love these guys. They're like a little light of sanity in a world that's being pushed into radical acceptance at the exspence of everyone who ISN'T Trans.
Joe "give Brock Lesnar a sex change and put him in a dress" Rogan
🤣
Brock's daughter is going to fuck Rogan up.
They be doing that to mfers an make them think they were dreaming as a male.. Like they dont give a fuck
☠️☠️
Mad funny
"Being gay is gay, even if you call yourself a woman." -Sun Tzu
That makes no sense. Dating someone who is trans isn’t automatically gay?
@@catcollector719 yea it is they were born the same gender as you that would mean your gay. They only identify as the other gender vs actually being that gender.
@@T10Titan so by that logic dating someone who is trans coming from the other side is straight. Either way youre wrong.
@@catcollector719 Yea it's a natural-born female. If they get a sex change and have a dick then I would say they are more or less a man and that would be gay. You are born a gender and if you don't get surgery to have the parts of that gender then you are still the same gender you were born.
@@T10Titan so you’re admitting they change gender then? Otherwise it’s straight
4:34 absolute truth .
South Park episode on this is hilarious. Macho Man Randy Savage competing against Strong Woman in althetics as a woman, taking every medal. His trash talking is funny as hell
If there's an apple in the throat there's a banana in the pants. Confucius.
Underrated
Wise as hell
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
too underrated
Lmao, I got another similar one for you from another ancient mind
"If the woman you are with has an apple on the neck,
you must prepare for a sword fight."
- Sun Tzu, _The Art of War_
I would never in my life date a trans.
Because they are men with dresses on. I am not attracted to men.
I respect that
Transphobic!
I think if i was dating a woman whos hands were the same size as mine id feel pretty insecure tbh
I dated a guy that shamed me for not wanting to date him anymore once he told me he dated and slept with a trans woman. I to,d him I’m all for acceptance and gay rights but I don’t want to date a man that had sex with a man…because I wanted a heterosexual man. He to,d me a trans woman is no different than a biological woman…I was in awe of the illogical gymnastics he went through to feel better and blocked him.
put me onnn at podcast 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽😂😂😂
This is a gret discussion, based on facts and not in prejudice. Congratulations. People have been fearful of discussing such issues in a really reasonable conversation.
People say I’m Hispanic because my skin is brown, I speak Spanish and have dark hair and eyes. But long time ago I identified as an aryan German. I demand to see me as such. I’m butthurt.
😂
loool
Hispanic is not a race.
@@cliofaces4937 alright your joke wasn’t that funny
Learn german then. Lerne deutsch! Schnell!
I miss the days when people were just gay, straight or bi, and that was only 11 year ago.
Fr when I found out about what a pansexual is I thought it was just bisexual. Then I learned abt these 70 something genders and what the fuck
@@reese4508 I'm tri-sexual
I'll try anything sexual
@@ophiolatreia93 I really hope that's a joke
@@shafi6576 about being tri-sexual? 😂😂😂 Yeah, if course it is. I stole it off Ali-G.
Well, they opened that gate when they gave those people an inch
I’m not attracted to Trans women cause I’m actually straight. I’m sick of this stuff where they try to force me to date trans people.
Who tries to force you to date
trans people? Lol
@@burgerking8475 god knows. 🤷🏼♂️
@@burgerking8475 trans people themselves. Some of them are trying to get men to look down upon women and date them instead, even if the guy is straight. You can easily look it up, this stuff is nonsense.
These guys are both really great.
“It’s so preposterous that we even have to have this discussion “
JP read my mind
Idk about that, it seems like a very natural discussion to have regarding gender and how we use in in society. Its very comforting that people accept trans people enough to even have this discussion. (When they actually take it seriously)
Amen to that
@@Christopher-ct1dw It’s really not just about accepting trans people though. They’re pointing out that recently (or not at all) transitioned trans women are gonna have an absolutely devastating advantage when competing against cis women in most sports, especially combat and contact sports. They’re saying that this should be so obvious that it shouldn’t even need to be elaborated on, which is correct.
@@otoyoto7153 I agree that trans women have a clear advantage over cis women in sports and a disadvantage in cis male sports, but I think that recognising this has also opened us up to more discussions about why we have these separations in the first place, and where trans folk would fit in with the current separations or if we should change how we separate them to accommodate more variables such as trans people or other biological advantages.
@@otoyoto7153 Its not as self evident as it seems
I'll just take the being a bigot, then.
Lol well said 🤣
Same
Ehh I’ve been called worse. “Cracks open Beer”
Right !
Like fr who cares if they are considered bigots XD
Nope it’s completely preference simple I want kids so I want a real man
You're definitely right, I mean there's actually other ways you can get yourself knocked up if you wanna plop out some critters too, but a man is the easiest for sure.
@@lolitis01 what you just said is pure craziness trying to make a baby without a man that’s how you get disabled children
Exactly a man who turned into a women will never be able to have kids so it just shows you can’t bend nature or try fuck around with it otherwise bad things happen
There's a fine line between what's considered to be fairness, and insanity. Never-the-less that line is there. Can you see it? The questions turn into issues of freedom. Should a human being be allowed to be free in this world, to be able to choose according to their own desires, or should they hand over their freedom of choice to other people, groups, government etc.?
The world has gone mad. Stop it.
Lervon God bless you. I so hope you are right and I admire your faith in people.
Social media gave a voice to people who for the most part should be avoided. Is it about being trans or gay or is about you shoving your lifestyle in peoples faces to promote a response you can capitalize on
Dave F you’re right, instead of the flying cars and moon colonies I imagined as a kid, we’ve become relegated to regressive arguments no sane person could have anticipated. So sad it’s funny.
@@ChillinWithTimothy lol
@@davef6337 please join and share this discord server if you're interested.
discord.gg/7Sa2CNWGQv
The purpose of this server is to create a platform for anti-left people to freely share ideas.
"If you gave Brock Lesnar a sex change,he's gonna run through every woman that ever existed."😂😂😂
Picturing Brock Lesnar in a dress. Thanks Joe. I can’t unsee that thought now. Thanks very much.
Janae Kroc has a better waist
This movement revolves around the idea that, "you have to abide by my feelings, regardless of how it in itself, makes you feel." And it's becoming more and more ridiculous. It is not a law for me to tailor my views, so that it pleases your sensibilities.
"A tough woman can beat a variety of men,
A tough man can beat all women".
My new favorite quote.
@Mr Gronk I don't know how you got the impression that I'm being sarcastic or condensing from what I wrote.
I actually just meant what I said, I like the 'quote'.
It's actually a good comeback to some dumb questions or statements made by feminists, SJW ...
(well that's if your comment is actually meant to be a correction or some sort of explaining the point of what he said)
@@mentalsmith6862 It was not, he was agreeing with you and, well, it was prety obvious, but i understand you in this one, these days we never know people are just fking crazy in the head.
That’s not even true a tough women would literally die if they got punched in the face of even slapped
@@alexk3469 tough men too to be honest
@Miss Manawaka Its true tho
I'm not a Human Being I'm a Demi-God and if you dont treat me as such I will rain down tears on you.
Well, I am an A-10 Warthog. Wait until I start farting on you.
God of war 🗡
Brock Lesnar part😂
amazing how this conversation is happening.
I sexually identify as an attack helicopter but i feel i should be able to compete against fighter jets
I identify as an A-10 and I think helicopters should have that same twin turbofan engines and 30mm cannon.
I am a Native Helicopter. I am an Apache and I have a tomahawk between my legs. lol
people in portland would be super offended by this comment
Prodi G. I identify as a cockroach, I win.
OurCrafter
The A-10 has twin turbofan engines so they can fly at higher altitudes where the air(oxygen) is thinner and is needed for combustion. Helicopters don’t need that.
I cannot on any level understand the denial of the fact that somebody who is a biological male has a significant physical advantage over females in sports.
It's mad that we've come to the point we can't even say that.
Women's leagues exclude men, men's leagues do not exclude women. They would not do this if men and women could compete fairly.
'I'm not a vet but I know what a dog is' this video on youtube summarises this comment
I absolutely love the comment that Joe makes at 2:38. 😂😂😂 it’s so true
Brilliant guys
He’s absolutely right and that’s not discriminating that’s science!! Be real folks what he’s saying is biological not being a biggot!!
if dummies cared about science we wouldn’t be having the Flat Earth conversation either.
Whoever did the thumbnail deserves a cookie 🍪
Young Jamie deserves an A
I made the thumbnail. This is from my video, you can see it on my channel.
Whoever did the thumbnail will be eaten by Brock Lesnar like a cookie.
@@changsdynasty296 R.I.P homie.
@n/a Thanks man! I appreciate it.
The XY, XX delineation is gold
i literally just had a trans person try and stealth me on hinge. but I remembered seeing her profile on tinder months ago and at that point she disclosed that info freely, so I swiped left. all good
when she likely a pic of mine of hinge now say 9 months later, not only was it not disclosed anywhere (her profile said female/straight) but in the bio it said I'm I'm not shitting you "be yourself, be honest and don't play games.
when I sent back a massage saying its a little hypocritical to expect people to be honest when you aren't honest with them that you were born male she had a hissy fit and reported my account for transphobic behavior
Not surprising. Reminds me of 400 lb girls on pof that put in their body type as average but would type out why can't guys just be honest
You should have reported his account for misleading claims. People like that are so unhinged they can become violent when rejected. Anyone who meets them IRL is putting themselves in danger
@@ohwellwhateverr knowing these dating sites these days I would get banned for being transphobic. It's ok I took pics of their profile and the txt exchange and if anything happened to my account I would have been getting a lawyer involved
inb4 Brock has some kind of awakening and realises all his life he was supposed to be female and then hunts down and hospitalises every single female in mixed martial arts
Only to get KO'd by Cyborg.
@@TotallyNoCat Who is el cyborgo? Tell me the tale.
I have never seen a woman that weight that wasn't mostly fat, I've seen them push up to around 200lb at best naturally if they are over 6 foot and a freak of nature but they'd have to allow a shitload of steroids to be even half as big as Brock/Brooke would be on oestrogen...
@@danfc3s exactly for a women to even get to heavyweight would have to put so much stress on there body to even get to 200 it’s just maths I mean would do you expect a women heavyweight champion of the world seriously
As Joe is someone engaged in combat sports, I expected him to also to use the weight classes argument in MMAs or Boxing. I mean when men fight men, they were mindful not to engage men of vast difference in weight as it’s also unfair for a lightweight to flight a heavyweight. So if we go to this much differentiation within the same gender, how can we simply ignore the role of growing up with Testosterone in shaping the body.
Weight transition is possible however like the case of Manny Pacquiao who competed and won in 8 different weight classes (thanks Wikipedia :D)
Hugh Ropp I’m no expert. So your point is that they can eliminate the weight classes in MMA and Boxing? a relic of the past?
Hugh Ropp someone like Brock Lesnar going up against anyone under his weight class is entirely mismatched, size and weight are two of the biggest factors in a fight
@Hugh Ropp So you're saying the bigger man wins most of the time? Dude there is a reason combat sports have weight classes. If Lesnar were to fight Mighty Mouse (arguably one of the best MMA fighters of all time), who would win? Lesnar would thrash him with one arm behind his back.
You are 100% correct. Not only this, but men also train against men, who go hard with each other. Odds are, if you are a women, while training, you likely don't get pressed as hard because nobody wants to be the guy picking on a girl, and maybe the men let you win because nobody wants to be the dick bullying the girl. So even with biological differences aside, in a male dominated sport, such as mma, women would have a hard time keeping up just because of how the gender roles are defined within the sport.
@Hugh Ropp ohhhhh sorry I didn't know you were clinically an idiot, my bad! You're talking about super small percentages. Sure, I could beat Jon Jones. That one time out of 10 milion because he made a mistake. It's not the norm. If you have 2 virtually identical fighters weighing 200lb and 175lbs, the bigger guy will have an advantage advantage, you literally can't argue that. I'm not even going to get into the woman vs men thing because it's already been biologically disproven.
.. when trivial things to the majority become the most prominent discussion then it's the beginning of the end for that society.. good luck everyone..
Jordan I couldn’t agree more
Joe "Run through every single woman in the history of women" Rogan
This isn't even an issue...
I've never heard u are a bigot if u don't date men. It must be a Lefty thing
Why the fuck is Ulfric fucking Stormcloak watching Joe Rogan and Jordan Peterson talk about trans people
I'd rather have to deal with being called a bigot than date another man.
Its sad that thats the reality you live in. PC-Police are close by too but not so militant. The "progressive" People are tying society up in knots and villinising innocent people.
I just turn it around and say I’m a proud bigot
"date another man"
Well if you already dated one, why can't you date another one?
@@galxis5112 😁😁😁😁
Where's he taking me to eat?
No, the bigot is the person judging you based on your sexual preference.
🇦🇬“Shouldn’t have to”. Those are the operative words.🙏🏾
So we finally achieved acceptance of the LGBT community, to some extent, where the argument was one shouldn't shame another based on their sexuality. And now, shaming a man for being heterosexual is ok? Nope. Sorry but if I dated a guy who turned around a few months down the track and said oh by the way, I have a vagina, I'd be gone and pretty annoyed. There is no need to deceive people in this day and age. I have two kids, and I know single mothers who deliberately hide that fact from men out of selfishness to try and get him emotionally attached and less likely to reject them. I mean, do you want to have that moment where he feels lied to and ultimately leaves anyway because he ain't about that life? I sure don't. I've always told them from the jump and if they decline I completely get it, some men can't handle it and there's nothing wrong with them for feeling that way. If everyone has the right to choose who they are intimate with, then everyone has the right to make an INFORMED choice on who they are intimate with.
Ya, that is pathetic, I believe that is cruel to hide your kids from a potential partner. I would think that impacts the kids, what if they found that out
LGBT? What about all the rest of them. LGBTIQCAPGNGFNBMD and the other 55 perceived genders. I don't know the other 52
@@dennis1662 actaully I identify as a billionaire with godlike powers and can make any woman fall in love with so add 53 and also if the goverment doesn't give a billion dollars and girls don't have sex with me when I say so then they are transphobic and should go too hell for defying me since I'm a billionaire with godlike powers and can make any woman fall in love with me
My preferred pronouns are
GOD and godlike billionaire
@@mikefarley5358 potential?
Lmao
The reason why single moms don't always tell the guys about kids upfront, but after a certain amount of time is usually to protect their children from predators. There is no need to tell them until you want to proceed with a committed relationship. You have no idea how dangerous the world is for women and children without protection.
"If you gave Brock Lesnar a sex change and put him in a dress, he's gonna run through every woman that ever existed".
Oh My World!
🤣👏👏👏👏
Thats the thing, he wouldn't even need a sex change, some advocates for trans athletes don't even think he would need testosterone treatment for it to be fair.
If you give Michael Cera a sex change and put him against Ronda, Michael would tap her out in SECONDS.
@@HireMichaelEverson no he wouldnt.
He doesn't even need a sex change - he just has to identify as a women
@@destructodisk9074 so it's not about being a male but about being a trained fighter. Dang you proved me wrong.
intresting point on predudice.
It's nice to hear a conversation full of sense for a change
The words that stood out the most to me as "that would be reasonable". Our society, as a whole, seems to have forgotten how to be reasonable.
I want to be with a woman because I want children.
Well you force choked the last one so...
How are you going to gestate the fetus? You going to keep it in a box?
I find myself to be attracted to real women. Can't help it. Not changing.
Vader your a machine. Move on.
But lord Vader, you already have 2 kids
Thank you Jordan Peterson
And here we are in 2022! And it just keep getting freakier!
Girl: ur too short sorry I prefer to date taller guys
Society: that’s fine
Boys: ur to fat sorry I prefer to date skinny girls
Society: how could you
especially when the girl is smaller than you
And you can even change being fat, while you cannot change being short
🤝🤝👍 On point..
I’m 5 foot 7 on my toes and I approve
@@AutotuneSucksBalls lmao midget
If you don’t want to date a trans person that’s your choice it dosent make you a bigot
if we dont date transwomen, its because we want to enjoy the hood and its pearl, also bang the real stuff, not a fake made up ones
its not even really choice i cant help what I'm attracted to
@@crunchynetto6979 you do realise dating a trans women means your gay and not everyone’s gay
I love this
I love Jordan “it’s just propostirus to have this conversation “ lol
Brooke smash!
Hahahahahaha
😂😂😂😂
lol took me a second. I was like this ass hole misspelled his name and then I laughed. Cheers.
Oh shit it’s the boski, goat blogger
"At what point do you have a right to your prejudices?" What a profound statement. Wise words, fair question!
Nice, so basically if people are not allowed to have any preferences, then I can call the cops on any hot woman who rejects me when I try to hit on her, because that is "hate speech" against me or something.
_Maybe_ a little bit absurd and ridiculous, but let's roll with that, lmao.
Why are the last 10 seconds missing?