How Much Power Does A 2021 Dodge Charger Hellcat REALLY Make? DYNO RUNS!
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- Опубликовано: 12 янв 2021
- How Much Power Does A 2021 Dodge Charger Hellcat REALLY Make? DYNO RUNS!
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Stock Hellcat's are known to be UNDERRATTED! But how much power do they really make from factory!? Here's the truth!
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That hellcat hemi is something....... literally off the charts🔥🔥💨💨
Completely off the charts!
@@MDG_Collections this car makes more horse power then I thought and for you to keep up with a hellcat redeye all what you have to do is get a good tune for it and you good to go good content mike I will always support your channel no matter what
I know I am kinda off topic but do anyone know a good site to watch new tv shows online ?
@Madden Julien lately I have been using flixzone. Just google for it =)
@Raul Jordan Yup, have been watching on Flixzone for years myself :)
If I owned a dyno, I'd tell everyone that it was more accurate than others too.
Great video as usual! Thank you! Car looks sick🔥🔥🔥
I appreciate u! 🙏
Great video bro 🤜🏾🤛🏾
Love the whip
With that much hp the weight makes it safe and Schweeeeeeet to drive
Just imagine if it’s about 20% lost
Yea man it's always 15-20% lost but I just went with the lowest percentage of 15% but if it's a lost of 20% it's waaaaay more than 760 HP.
Hey big Mike! Cars lookin mean as always and its pushing some serious weight! 💯💯💯💯
Sheeeesh!
I appreciate it bud!
Yesssir. That thing is a beast!!
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Really curious to see what the new intake does! Good Stuff!
I know bud. Stay tuned!
@@MDG_Collectionsbuddy ole pal 🤓
Hello,,,nice video....quick question...Is that charger an all wheel drive or you activated the front mustang roller?
My Hellcat is rear wheel drive!
Soooooo, I wonder what my 2021 Redeye is truly making?? It's said to make 797 hp and 707 ft. lbs. of torque, from the factory. I haven't done any mods to it. All I can say is, this car is Extreme, in every regard. Very nice and informative video, love it! I did notice the front wheels turning. Most Dynos only have the back wheels turning.
Yea that was an AWD dyno so that's why you saw the front wheels turning. But yes these cars are very underrated and put out big numbers from the factory with no mods. Please make sure you're subscribed and thanks for the support!
By this video my 2020 Hellcat Redeye widebody last year and got 712 rwhp which puts it a little over 800 hp. This year still no mods but more milage and a lot better. This year I got 791 rwhp which is over 900 hp. So there you have an idea of what it can be. This year was at a different time of day and about 20 degrees cooler. Also done on a Mustang dyno. Not bad at all. I am getting ready to mod her up to around 1000 hp this month or next. Just waiting for a slot to open up. Good luck and enjoy your beast. Be careful out there!!
@@brucecameron62 Thanks for the Reply Bruce. I'm still trying to figure all this out. If it's not too much trouble, keep me updated on the mods progression.
@@BlessedMe11 I sure will. I can tell you what I am doing to mine. I am reducing the supercharger pulley to I believe is 2.85, 180 thermostat, I bought a new ecu to unlock and have the original for safe keeping. Also switching to E85 plus adding a boost a pump ( voltage boost type I believe ) since Redeyes have 2 fuel pumps. Hp tuner and ID 1300x fuel injectors plus dyno'd. So trying for 1000+ hp. I am now addicted to dyno pull contest. Lol
@@BlessedMe11so the manufacturers hp and tq rating is how much power the engine produces. When you dyno the car that number is lower because the power is transferred through the transmission, driveshaft, axles, and then finally to the wheels. When you see someone referring to "wheel horsepower" or abbreviated "whp" this is what they're referring to, which is the actual power output being put to the pavement. Hope that helps!
Man i miss youtube when it didnt have 5 minute long intros drone footage for days and it takes almost 11 minutes to watch a dyno video with commercials...i really wish pre 2013 youtube would come back
Mike G!!! Steady mobbin in the Daytona!!
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What a beast of a car!!! Love it
Lol come back up to NYC and take it for a drive. It'll be a video for my channel 🤣
@@MDG_Collections omg 😳 stop!!! I do have to come up soon to meet my niece so I will let u know
Those are crazy numbers for a stock car on a mustang dyno FCA wasn’t playing with this one.
Yeah man definitely a lot more power 🔋 than advertised! Thanks for watching!
Love that thing always looking good one day I will move up to the big cat
Thanks for the support!
Run it at the dragstrip.
That will tell you the full story. Dynos numbers are reference in my opinion.
Fact all dynos can read what you want, they are estimates because every dyno has setttings that can alter readouts. Engine dynos are the most accurate. It’s best used as a tuning tool. Trap speeds tell the story of the car. Drag times tell the story of the driver. Drag runs still have variables like temp, weather, tires, surface, and altitude.
Beautiful car, those mopars are truly in a class of their own.
I was always wondering that.
What a beast my Daytona hellcat getting worked on today I’m actually going to drop it off rn
I appreciate the support!
Can someone explain why the front wheels are spinning?? Is it awd???
The Daytona is a nice touch 👌🏽
*I appreciate you!*
What would really be interesting is whether or not they dyno page on the Uconnect performance pages actually gets anywhere close to the real numbers.
Yea I'm pissed at myself for forgetting to video that. I told the guy before we started filming I wanted to check the accuracy of the UConnect dyno while on the dyno machine then complete forgot.
@@MDG_Collections Well hopefully my Redeye will be here soon and I might take it to the place I had my 2016 dyno'd and maybe I will see if I can record the screen.
@@MDG_Collections did you check what your top speed was? My last dyno top speed was 198. Don't know if that is the correct mph, but would have loved to be in it going that fast!
@@brucecameron62 *I was too busy filming 🎥 on the outside of the car so I unfortunately didn't catch the top speed*
@@MDG_Collections I am going to try to find something I can hook up to video my dyno's and my upgrades.
Yes sir that Cat needs a bath but winter will get you lol
Actually the calculation is "85% of what is 661", or
0.85x = 661
or
x = 661/0.85 = 778 HP
However, most modern drive trains are more efficient than the old ones (where the 15% number originated) so the loss is actually more like 12%. Doing that same calculation, but replacing 0.85 with 0.88, you get 751. Either way, it's more than 717. 🙂👍
Love your car!
It has been raining a lot in Florida and I was on A major highway and it has slow down but I ended up hydroplaning and went across the road, Hit a ditch ended up flying to another one in the meantime knocked a phone pole and a half and a 50 foot fence wiped it out and flipped my car six times…Ended up in another ditch upside down I was hanging in the air release my seatbelt and slammed into the ground. I was only going 56 at the time because I don’t like going fast in the rain. Car is destroyed. I broke my pelvis, left hip, tailbone, right ankle, #4 vertebrae in my neck And three ribs cut some bruises everywhere else. I remember the whole thing every roll, slam.
My husband Mike said I apparently flu 200 feet in the air
Good thing you're ok. And thanks a lot!
@@MDG_Collections damn she deserved more than a line you cheapskate
Dyno has to be calibrated properly, you only made a few runs and thos numbers will surely change in hot weather where heat sink is a factor..and drivetrain loss is in the lowest end 15percent usually more closer to about 20percent..
Heat does make a difference! My Redeye loves the cooler weather for sure!
Heat “soak” and yeah without intercooler or after cooler forced induction engines suffer a lot in heat.
I always go back to blown injected alcohol engines compared to blown gasoline engines. I was always underwhelmed with gas blower engines compared to blown alcohol. Alcohol takes about twice the fuel to burn completely in a given amount of air.. all of that fuel goes through the blower cooling the charge and not needing a cooler. New supercharged cars don’t get that advantage because the fuel injectors are after the supercharger. With a supercharged big block Chevy on gas 700-800hp is reasonable whereas on alcohol 1200-1500hp is typical. Mainly due to cooling the air charge but you are also using twice the fuel so more energy as well. You can look at a blown engine on alcohol and the supercharger will be sweating like a cup of soda with ice on a hot day.. condensation because the supercharger/cup is so cool. Every 10 degrees is %1 horsepower up or down.
@@brucecameron6210 degrees eq %1 difference in horsepower.
@@ztwntyn8 it got to be a lot different than that. How come tuners see hp changes from 1° degree in timing
Wow .. power for sure!!!! 😳 my goodness if that thing get off that lift it would fly to the moon 🌙 over 600 ... wow
Yeah to be honest the whole time I'm saying please don't let these straps break so the car doesn't go flying off the lift!
15% drivetrain loss is for manuals. You’re looking at closer to a 20% loss for automatics. Just fyi
If the test wasn't done in 6th gear then the numbers are less accurate. Dyno runs should be performed in the gear that is a 1 to 1 ratio or the gear closest to a 1 to 1 ratio. Sixth gear is a 1.00 ratio.
Wrong dyno jet is more accurate. Mustang dyno is 15 percent less lol.
That 15% is not an exact science.
Question what rpm where you making the pull at I call cap and it's about 30% you lose not 15% I'm an engine builder to make 700 wheel engine got make 1000
A hellcat has 717bp with a 30% loss, would give it 512 whp.
512 whp with a 4500lb car would move like a snail.
Drive train loss is 215hp? I'm not an engine builder but I find that hard to believe. You loose 200hp from drive train.
I've seen multiple dynos of hellcats and usually it's 590-630whp depending on the dyno. So thats a average 10-18% loss.
Or the dyno could not be 100% accurate there's a lot of factors when dynoing a car the gear has to be 1 to 1 different dynos give out different readings location on where you dyno due to air pressure. And I just watched a redeye put down 691 so idk
So are you saying this Daytona Hellcat is making too much rwhp to be believable?
@@themoderator1read the comment do your research watch some more vids come back nd let me know what u think
@hatedonalot9080 NO THANKS! I've already done everything you just wrote so your reply is meaningless to me! You're just as clueless as everyone else! Thanks again for nothing!
Nice numbers. Don’t ever stand there during a dump run again please. Straps love to break.
How were front wheels able to spin?
It's an all wheel drive dyno.
Oh okay, so the rotation from the rear wheels spinning the dyno cause the front of the Dyno to spin as well when putting a rear wheel drive car on a all wheel drive Dyno? Or is your car somehow converted to all wheel drive? I know these questions sound a bit crazy.
@@pitbull198932 exactly @ your first assumption. My car is rear wheel drive!
@@MDG_Collections Oh ok thanks for da reply
Just got a white 2020 Hellcat with demonic red interior. Is it possible that the Dodge stated numbers are closer to correct, but there is actually less than 15% drivetrain loss? Do you really think Dodge actually tweaks tune to add 10 horsepower or more likely they just tell us that the Daytona is 10 more hp than regular Hellcat to sell the Daytona. Same engine so seems like easier and less cost for Dodge to just say that. I realize that you have seen Daytonas pull away, but in real world everyday driving you know you are not going to notice 10hp when car puts down over 700. If they can add 10hp with a tune tweak seems like it would be possible to add even more just with a tune?
Wat makes 717?
Today I learned you can add using a percentage... Here I was doing 661/0.85 😑
You can't, the math in the video is slightly incorrect. The FLYWHEEL power is what gets degraded as it travels through the clutch, transmission, axles, etc. You can't reverse the process while keeping the 15% of an already lowered figure (being wheel hp), so you need to to find what 661 is 85 percent OF. Dividing by a number less than 1 is the only way to reverse it - you had it right. 661/0.85 is about 777hp brake horsepower.
@@G82Jesse"brake" hp? Did you mean 777 crank hp?
Man Mike you sure do got a lot of nasty girls here #bots hahah! I'm telling tu esposa! 🤣
Bruh Dodge gave you some extra extra HP love with that Daytona Hellcat. I bet because its a limited edition car. 🤫🤔
Lmfaoo hahaha @ these bots. Yeah it's weird how they're all of a sudden coming from no where! And I wonder if Dodge secretly does things like that....🤔 Because I would have thought they would have given it 757 since it's the 50th anniversary Daytona and turns out it was a little more than that stock.
@@MDG_Collections that's a good analysis. This sounds like the forever car. Please keep it as long possible manee!🤝🏿
@@mr.300c oh no doubt! I financed so I'm paying it off and keeping it then just buying the next generation Charger Hellcat to add on to my collection!
Nobody use this type of Dyno much an more the use a chassis Dyno gives a more accurate horsepower reading
What gear was the car in?
You'd have to try and see if you can see it when I was filming the speedometer. If you look close you may be able to see it but while I was filming i wasn't even looking at that.
It should be in the gear that closest to the 1:1 ratio
@@MDG_Collectionsi always heard 1 to 1 ratio somthn like 6th gear you are in 4th hence your high numbers
To add 15% is incorrect. When you add 15% to 85% the way you did you only added 15% of 85%. The problem you’re trying to solve is 85% of what number gives you 661. So what u should do is “(X).85=661”. Your answer would be 777.65hp. Divide whatever horsepower you get on the dyno by .85. If the loss was 20% that means the car would’ve had 826.25hp. To see the loss for 20% divide 661 by .80.
I knew there was another math wiz here who had to have noticed this. 👍🏻
Widebidy Daytona redeye
*Yep it'll be basically that or a jailbreak when Direct Connection gets these staged kits available for purchase allowing me to upgrade my power to 807 or above! Stay tuned and thanks for the support!*
Please open the hood and put a big fan on the car ur going to blow that motor! I just saw it happen first hand
The car got a fan already
Automatic trans are heavier, more like 20% loss
4500lbs and 600whp is garbage. Lol. My 450whp Fg2 would eat it up.
IF OUR CARS WAS ALL WHEEL DRIVE WHEWWWWW
*Tell me about it! That's when the car was stock! I'm doing another dyno video now that i have this new Corsa Performance Intake. Stay tuned!*
@@MDG_Collections Mann wyd tomorrow before I go in bro ? , letcha feel these 800 horses 🐎
@bosshogg12801 *Oh wait this my cousins friend? I didn't even realize who I was talking to until you just wrote this. I wrote you on IG day's ago asking you what I did and you never got back to me. Hit me back on IG on this!*
Dodge low ball our cars.
They always did and I love it!
AWD Hellcat?????? I'm confused I guess 😕
Nah
Drivetrain loss isn’t a fixed percentage
I understand that. These were approximate HP numbers I mention! Basically it's definitely waaayyy more than 717 to the crank as advertised! Thanks for watching!
You’re assuming there’s a drivetrain loss of 15%. Mustang dyno doesn’t lose that much. That’s why it’s more accurate. Dodge inflates their numbers
AWD Hellcat ?
Thats a 2020, not 21.
You definitely didn't watch and listen to THE WHOLE video smh!
More accurate my ass. He can change the "resistance" lower for any car to inflate numbers.
A dyno jet drum is a fixed weight (i.e. 3,000 lbs) and the operator can't make it any lighter to inflate numbers
Is this awd wtf is going on hahahah I thought they didn’t make awd yet all
Ud need is b8 s4 or b7 Audi A6 parts had the same zf8 speed for sure number for number the same cause Audi made it hahaha so u can use are awd parts also
It’s all the same we use a lot of your parts for are upgrades lol same shit yours is just bigger but trans stuff is all the same 1000% sure
No it's rear wheel drive. Thanks for watching. Make sure you're subscribed!🤝🏾💪🏾
@@MDG_Collections yes sir check what I said if u wanna go awd use Audi parts 1/32 of the cost if it says dodge on it hahah
91 octane or 93 during this run cuz 91 you usually make 580hp
We have 93 here in NYC
What BS
Those cars are tuned for 91 octane
@@a.a7648 but you always don’t get 91 from the pump
20 up from an intake....? Prove it !
If you believe that then you will believe the sky is purple
You sure this is a 2021? The 2021 has a different hood. This looks like a 2020.
Did you watch and listen to the whole video? I explained this exact topic you're asking about.
@@MDG_Collections chances are I missed it or didn't get all the way thru 😉
Charger only got 707 hp 717 is for the challengers