Embracing Your Outdoor Studio - Draftsmen S3E24
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- Опубликовано: 9 июн 2024
- Learn plein air painting from Stan! He talks about his plein air experiences, how the outdoors can be a powerful method to help you capture colors, and how it can force you to make important artistic decisions while working under time constraints imposed by nature. You’ll also hear the two discuss the pros and cons of working outdoors versus painting within the studio and some other tips and tricks from Stan that he’s learned over the years that will help you if you want to try plein air painting.
Related Videos:
Color Study - Sunset Plein Air - www.proko.com/203
2 COLOR CHALLENGE - Painting with James Gurney - www.proko.com/211
Painting Trees N’ Stuff - En Plein Air - www.proko.com/215
Getting Better Faster - Painting with 80/20 Rule - www.proko.com/291
Timecodes
00:00 - Intro
4:05 - Today’s Topic: Plein AIr
11:17 - Equipment
22:18 - Set Up
27:22 - Marshall the Homebody
31:29 - Capturing Accurate Colors
40:45 - Handling Changing Light
46:11 - Can You Come Back at the Same Time of Day
52:56 - Plein Air Resources
54:45 - How to pick what to paint
59:50 - Simplifying the Scene
1:02:08 - Dealing with Changing Light
1:05:49 - Planning Quickly
1:08:49 - Painting in Public
1:11:39 - Plein Air singing
1:12:52 - Composition in Landscape
1:26:32 - Unusual Terrain
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ABOUT DRAFTSMEN:
Stan Prokopenko and Marshall Vandruff are art instructors. If you love the arts, particularly the craft of drawing and painting and image-making… and you want to level up your skills or even make a living with your skills, we are here to answer your questions. We’re here to offer you advice, refer you to our resources, share your love of the craft and maybe inspire you! Learn to Draw - www.proko.com Marshall Vandruff - www.marshallart.com. Subscribe to the podcast at bit.ly/DraftsmenPod
CREDITS:
Hosts - Stan Prokopenko (www.stanprokopenko.com), Marshall Vandruff (www.marshallart.com/)
Production Assistance - Alex Otis ( / alexotisillustration , Charlie Nicholson ( / shloogorgh , Ellie Polk ( / the.mccartski )
Editing - Charlie Nicholson
Intro Animation - Cody Shank (codyshank.com/)
Intro Jingle - Tommy Rush ( / tommyrush )
Music Used with Permission Intro - The Freak Fandango Orchestra
We want to know about your plein air painting experiences in the comments. What’s been your favorite painting destination? What are some things you wish you knew before you started? Oh, and don’t forget to tell us about your favorite TikTok.
I never knew that I needed Marshall singing "We Are The Crystal Gems".
right!?
Made my day!
He actually has a good singing voice, what the hell
ABSOLUTELY MADE MY DAY
Indeed
Marshall singing the Steven Universe theme is my everything.
Marshall forgetting Steven's name was such a good punchline
I would love to see a sequel of this episode with Marco Bucci, Stan and James Gurney painting together.
Just one more thing…
Since I’ve been watching your podcasts, almost every time you reference an Artist, or a book, or any art term or idea that I’m not familiar with I pause it, add it to an ongoing list on my phone, and I’ll look them up and read and study it. So good! I’m a better artist because of you. Thanks so much!
I would love to see Marshal and Stan painting plein air!
Wow! What an intro! Bravo
Stan's plein air paintings look awesome:)
We need a full 50min episode consisting of nothing but technical difficulties, just like we had one with Marshall singing only.
Plein air painting is like solving a puzzle in paint. And all of the challenges help curb my perfectionist impulses. There's no time for overthinking or second guessing. It's exhilarating.
I love this episode as I have been hosting an ongoing Plein Air meetup group for almost 7 months!
When I started, Landscapes were a weak part of my skills set so I jumped right in.
I will add a few thoughts from my experiences
1) Bathrooms! I’ve scheduled events at different locations and have found that having bathrooms nearby is just better.
2) Wind! You never know when you’re going to encounter winds so be prepared with tie downs or clamps or something. And be prepared to exit if it gets to be to much!
3) Acrylics, I paint in acrylic outdoors and I really appreciate not having to worry about transporting wet paintings with me when a session is done. The paint dries fast or a little bit slower if I use “open” acrylic and with open medium.
4) Landscapes, Cityscapes, Seascapes… all are part of the tradition of outdoor painting !
5) Take reference pictures! Most but not all of my paintings are finished on site. So a few good pictures makes it possible to complete a worthwhile painting back in the studio.
Love you guys! Keep ‘em coming!
In the Burbank/Glendale area…
Meetup app. “Plein Air - painting, Drawing” always Free! 🙂
And I thought you were going to talk about bathrooms as subject matter... I do wish I had a plein air group near my area.. no artists around here it seems.
@@hgzmatt lol 😂.
I had a wondrous trip to Glacier National Park and brought a very small travel watercolor set. Sitting in the mountains quietly enjoying the scenery and painting wildflowers let me experience the area more than I ever could have otherwise.
I didn't expect that Stan will mention Mark Carder's channel here "Draw Mix Paint", he's a great oil painting teacher too. He doesn't hold back and gives out all the useful information and techniques he uses.
I plein air paint almost daily. I have some kind of a traveling type art studio on me or in my car. I carry charcoal and a small sketch book in my purse. I also pack a water brush and an Altoids tin can with half pans of basic colors so if i see a moment Ill stop an paint it. It only takes about 5 minutes lol. there are pps walking by, paint them lol. My mom made us bring those things along to drawing and painting in the museums which is a super good habit to have. Choose a medium or try a few different kinds (but draw daily). But yah get out there and paint 🎨. great 👍 video!
Everything Stan is saying about light and shadow in reality rather than photos is spot on.
The first prononciation of plein air was good :D Thanks you for this podcast !
Pthalo Green and Alizarin Crimson will make one of the most beautiful chromatic blacks you have ever seen. ;)
Thank you Marshall. You're a blessing.
proko is right as he said the camera is uggly for proko, but product designer will love it, he will represent it in his style
28:38 The fact that this was Marshal's idea makes this so much funnier lmao.
Thanks a lot, i really enjoyed this episode, one of the best of the podcast.
I'd love to go pleinair painting but I don't like the attention and the sense that it has to be good because there might be people looking, which is dumb because I'm essentially afraid of strangers thinking I'm a bad artist lol.
Start with a small sketchbook. Or bring a friend. And people are nice 99.9 times out of a 100. I had some very nice conversations. Put on headphones if you want to be ignored :)
@@jeroen9637 Yeah I find that a really small sketchbook is better but whipping out all the diffrent equipments If you're painting is very attention drawing. But the main problem is not really the attention it's the pressure of wanting to make good art.
And it's so relatable..
Expected mentions of James Gurney earlier in the episode.
I wonder if they'd ever consider doing an episode on photography.
Thank you for all your helpful answers!
plain air painting is the biggest motivation for me to learn how to drive, there are so many beutifull landscapes in my country, I just need to get there lol
I can't wait to see you both back at the set!
Fantastic hearing about Stan's Plein air process and materials
Driving and looking at vistas and scenes is the best way to get inspired to recreate. I used to go door to door, pre-9/11/01 inquiring about house portraits and actually made a living doing this.
Always great duo. Healthy energy!
wow.. this was awesome really enjoyed this... living in Alberta our weather is not year round plain air friendly so sometimes I plain air out my back large kitchen window and paint our back yard... you discover very quickly about how to make the very ordinary turn into something very EXTRA ORDINARY.. Like turning a few fallen fall leaves into a composition of colour and interest...Stan talks about decisions and well yes...I sure have when I have 5 trees and 2 bird feeders in the back yard!
drawing and painting from life did so much more for my skills than just looking up tutorials on “how to paint grass” or what ever ever did. Just like you can’t write a book about history with out knowing the facts, you can’t design an environment with out knowing the pieces even if - especially if - you are abstracting those components into illustration or comics.
I love u Stan and Marshall !! 🤪
Salvador Dali had a series of dusk/dawn paintings where he had a number of canvasses arranged and tried to catch them each in 15 minute windows. But returned every day for a few days to get longer term plein air studies.
Epic song 🍀
Was not expecting the Steven Universe intro to be sung but I am not disappointed
I don’t paint really, but I love drawing from nature, urban sketching, people and animals-observational drawing really. I’ve always kept that practice up because it makes me better at drawing from my ‘imagination’. I will use photo reference when I have to, but I generally don’t, as I can’t help but feel like I am making a collage rather than a drawing.
Going out to draw or paint is generally just very meditating too, and it gives me more appreciation for the world around me, as I am often too caught up in negative and depressive thoughts. Just observing something is a good practice, to look at something that is mundane, like the veins on a leaf, a mailbox or a street light just for a few minutes…. I always find something new, sometimes those things stick, often they don’t, but sometimes is better than never.
The issue I am most concerned with is developing cataracts. They are common in my family, and I always wear sunglasses outside. This makes it difficult to capture the colors of the scene. Even Monet got cataracts that cause him problems.
Also, the added problems of transporting equipment, the bugs, the freezing weather in the winter, and the hot humid weather in the summer make the entire experience very, very unpleasant for me. The Hudson River artists did their painting in the studio and just look at their work As one art teacher told me-"I have plenty of air in my studio.”
WOW Marshall
Enjoyed this one. Wish you had talked a little more about media other than oil. Much easier to use watercolor, or color pencil in the field. Also the urban sketching movement is another way to get together with others to do plein air art. Also Nature sketching and John Muir laws are another angle
Oh, my favorite place? Probably the one I am currently working on at the time. I have been working on a series of ink/watercolor wash series of historical neighborhood theaters
I just got into painting outside, and I'm still in the drawing phase so I don't have the favorite spot. I like places where I can easily isolate an object to draw.
...and yeah, bring mosquito repellent, with all the other stuff that was recommended in the video, I learned that the tik tok way :D
0:15 I was actually moving my head over this
plein air definetly I subject haven't touched much and it's on my to do list
If I paint aircraft wrong outside, is that a Plane Err painting?
The discussion at 32:00 very debasing to photography. Good landscape photographers can achieve many of the same goals. There is endless possibility when it comes to making a photograph, also when it comes to capturing more visual information as well as in printing and color grading.
I have painted nearly 50 plein air paintings at Confederation Park in Burnaby, British Columbia, Canada. 5 minutes from home and always something to paint. I can give you a public Facebook page if you like for viewing latest works. Usually 4 or 5 new works a week. Sometimes two a day.
Cup easel!
I paint with sunglasses however I hang them halfway down my nose. I actually have to because If I stay in the sun too long I get sun blind and have to leave direct sunlight for hours. But wearing the sunglasses but looking of the top of them I don't get the color distortion but it filters out the light.
I do portraits, but my backgrounds were suffering! Working on landscapes helped my backgrounds, and the best way…Plein Aire.
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The color question of how many liberties do you take with color. That depends on the artist. Of course there are the great color schemes analogous, complementary and split complementary and so on. However many artists create landscape to suit their expressive aesthetic. Like Monet changed color to suit him and versus to what John Constable did to give his painting its style.
I feel like we are in a period where we can recognize the photo references artists are using for the work they post. Sometimes, we need to remember to be inspired by our surroundings instead of our Pinterest feed. And try to depict all of the senses, instead of drawing just what we see with our eyes.
It's easily available.. already composed and you need mileage as a beginner. If I had to find my own composition for every painting I'd never get started. I do plan to go outside eventually. If I was a pro and doing this for years I'd have a lot more time to invest into research.
@@hgzmatt yeah I use pictures as well, it was just a reflection about how sometimes we should motivate ourself to go out and find adventures :) I don't do plen air since 2020 and I miss it at lot
@@liz6245 I really want to give it a try soon.. I wish I had someone to join me. I do hiking, photography etc. just never tried painting outside. But I just started last year :)
If you try to do a plein air painting here in Rio de Janeiro, problably someone will steal your phone... And your art supplies
Good luck
Yeah, even in less violent cities in Brazil, it's still unnerving. If you go to an isolated natural place, getting mugged is the least bad thing you can expect :/
@@lunab541 true, i would never go to an isolated place just to paint, unless i have a group of people with me, wich is kinda hard to get
You don't have to paint you plein air painting in 3 hours or even one day. I believe Scott Christensen used to earlier in his career return to the same spot painting large canvases over a week or more. I have met other painters that plein air paint to return to the same location over months to bring some of the familiarity of the scene to translate and change things in the scene.
"Because I don't want to"
*Cut to ad break*
XD
for outdoors art...i like using graphite , colored pencils, ink,,or oil pastels....all easy to carry ..less complicated,,and cleaner.
Cityscapes or rural landscapes? I think there are significant differences in these two choices, but personally, cityscapes are more challenging for a lot of immediate reasons that one must overcome.
My Favorite Spot...so far...has been Journal Square's Loews Cinema in Jersey City, NJ. It's a vintage yellow-brick old movie theater. It's got a lot of unique elements to paint. It's a good backdrop to the tons of modern day city stuff: taxi cabs, odd store fronts, fast food joints, stairs and walkways, street lamps, people milling about or going to and from the train station, etc etc. It even sprouted a famous commercial coffee place, so now it has even more activity over the past couple years. The outstanding compositional problem for the painter/composer, though, are the trees that sort of block the cityscape continuity of it all, so then you must situate yourself in the midst of the variety of pedestrian traffic to get a good view.
depends on what your comfort lays on, some people really say they struggle to draw a single coherent shape of a tree, meanwhile others do tend to suffer due to the technicality of perspective and others a picture of a city can have...
I’m really shocked Marshall knew the steven universe intro 😂😂😂
tell you my favorite tiktok!? that's a secret!! I don't want everyone flocking over to my secret favorite tiktok!!
Bold of you to claim that is not how Monet actually saw the cathedral. Everyone experiences the world differently. One's mental state also affects how one sees the world and, depending on the circumstances and surroundings, that state is going to vary and it is always subjective. A photograph captures what is physically there, while a painting captures what is emotionally there: the subjective experience of the artist. That emotional, experiential part truly only exists inside the artist's mind. This is why people think things look "wrong" in photographs and sound "weird" in recordings. They are just used to experiencing the world through their own emotional, subjective filters, which are missing from the photos, recordings, etc.
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well Stan.. people get better cameras than phone cameras for a reason. let me put it this way for most people, phone cameras have tiny sensors that capture information through light, similarly to our eyes in a sense, the bigger the sensor, the more light and accurate information it'll capture, ofc you may wanna do a few small adjustments in color profile for better accuracy (accuracy that misses more in low light situations) depending on your camera, but phones add a lot of software adjustments to make it a "prettier" picture, but in essence its tearing an already poor resolution picture.
you will never get the same as life from a picture, but it gets as close as you need to work on some of your delightful art, otherwise the environment is judging more than yourself in your "own" art... you must keep things balanced, no matter how many more subtleties you see you'll always just have the same physical paints and canvas and its always your job doing what the best you want out of them... in general doing things directly from life can have a really nice exciting touch to it though... i just rather not use it mainly to set *my* identity, or better said, of my art.
I do hope he has an actual camera.. not just his phone.
Take Marshal outside to paint! :)
A lot of programs encourage and or had the painting students train in plein air for a couple of semesters because there is no better way to learn about color.
I'm French and we say plein air
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1:11:00 or just don't speak their language. It works. I know this because if you start speaking English in a country where that is not a thing, lots of people will just give up, I imagine it works even better if you speak something else entirely.
I'm more of a pleinair drawer
Anyone can else experience a huge increase in the frequency of ads for this episode? I’m not ever subscribing to yt premium. Normally the trade off of skipping a few ads is totally fine. But it seemed like less than 5 min intervals in a 90 min ep. 😝😖🤮
Plein air should only be pronounced as Plein air
It seems they're running out of topic. How do they even choose topics ?
They've had this episode planned months ago. Except they said they would go out plein air but they didn't
@@Rice8003 i always listen to them while painting, ive heard most podcasts at least twice now. However last podcast was the only one i closed on purpose
@@doaflamingo3713 yeah, last one was didn't have much content. But this one I found really valuable
Even if something is not exactly aligned with your own practice, you can learn something.