Obi-Wan Kenobi: Episodes 5 and 6 - re:View
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- Опубликовано: 27 июн 2022
- It's time to talk about recycling! I mean Star Wars! Mike, Jay and Witch Evans sit down to discuss the last two episodes of Orba Wand Kenobi! What will happen? Star Wars things happen that we've seen before. Rich Evan's unwashed hands are rubbed in his own face resulting in pink eye AND Covid infections that he then spreads to thousands later at his one man show "Evans Live on the Sunset Strip" which he performs in Milwaukee, WI. During this live event Evans vomits up Clown Soup™ and spits on his fans. He then drives away in his new Rolls Royce that Walt Disney's head bought him for saying that he kind of liked Star Whores Renobi.com. How does the RLM guys feel about these things you see? When? How did they watch they shows and realize that Star Wars is basically the same thing over and over and over and over and over again. Lightsabers. Stormtroopers. Dark Vader. Resistance. Empire. Jedi. Tickets for Rich Evans one man show are now on sale on the official CDC website. If you're lucky enough he might spit on you as he sails away on his yacht to Epstein's island (which he purchased with Disney cash). He does NOT, however, enjoy the company of under-aged women. He uses his private island to indulge in something much worse. Pouring hot Clown Soup™ all over his balls.
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FINALLY I get to find out what opinion I should have on the Obi-Wan finale!
After watching their previous video on the show, I'm perfectly happy with my own opinion this time :)
It was mostly crap, episode 5 was good because of the flashbacks and the sparring scene.
You'd have to be a pile of mush to watch it in the first place
I clapped when I saw Darth VAAAAAAA-DERRRRRRRRRR!
That sounds like a you problem, pal
The moment Rich realizes that they didn't even change Luke's last name is pure gold.
Same name living where Vader's mum last resided.
Lol Obi Wan doesn’t either
Jay really had the best casual logic reply to that. Darth didn't know Luke's name, then he hears the whole thing and flips... The force is strong with this one.
That mistake was on the movies them selves, not on the series
The galaxy was meant to be impossibly vast, Tatooine being a major backwater. Subsequent media revolving around Tatooine as well as other stuff makes the galaxy seem very small, so this is now an issue when it wasn't really before. The original movies have become recontextualised.
Rich: “Did Kylo Ren kill baby Yoda?”
Jay: “We can only hope”
😂😂😂
They undid season 2 of The Mandalorian in that disappointing Boba Fett show i think. Grogu or Rogu stopped the Jedi training with Luke.
@@Moloch187 Which is to say all Luke Deepfaker ever was was fan service to appease the fans after they got angry over episode VIII
I disagree with Rich I think this show blows
@@moscanaveia i mean common. That was it from the get go already. Cheap fanservice with horrible deep fale looks. And in boba fett luke skywalker legit looks like an early android model trying to emote human emotions There was no need for Luke to show up and be the one needing to train grogu.
@@Moloch187 thank god to be honest i couldnt bear seeing non emoting deep fake luke skywalker talking. It made my eyes and ears burn. The book of boba fett was horrible tho. The first two episodes were a chore to watch with him being captured by the sand people. I fell asleep like 15 times during those episodes. I'm just glad they dropped the grogu trained by luke thing. I just hope the 3rd season of mando isnt gonna turn into a dumb comedy because of taika
The problem with having Qui Gon narrate the tragedy of Darth Plagueis the Wise is that it's not a story a Jedi would tell
Uh but qui gon has always been a rebel, who defied the jedi council xD its all setup in advance! George Lucas is a real genius! It all makes sense, Stop asking questions!
Have young Count Dooku tell it
@@diddymelone2265 It's like poetry, it rhymes.
@@bulldozerchn Will they dig up Christopher Lee's corpse and then de-age it and use his soundboard to tell the story?
@@muntersquad3777too soon, bruh
Too soon 😅😂😮😮😢
May the Force be with you.
Always. 🌌 🚀
The lovable cocky asshole, the strong sassy Princess, and the good-natured, wide-eyed farm boy. They start off with differing opinions, but their love triangle storyline really helps their true friendship shine through, and that's why I loved this episode of Mike, Rich and Jay talk about Star Wars.
It's like a poetry. It RHYMES
Rich is definitely the spicey Princess
@@thegadflygang5381 he's the wide-eyed farm boy
@@thegadflygang5381 Rich definitely knew they were brother and sister during the kiss
@@marshroanoke I think that's Jay, idk. I love how there's no doubt who the cocky asshole would be
Everyone talks about Maul getting cut in half but no one mentions those 2 halves of him basically fall off a giant sky scraper …
He got that perk for "no fall damage "
I doubt he could focus enough in the moment honestly, but all jedi can slow their falls with the force, like what Kenobi did for Leia. Darth Maul missing his other half probably would be throwing off his concentration tho
They all talk about how stupid it is but it’s okay now because Star Trek was bad.
@@user-NameName yep. They’ve been worn down. Gotta give ‘em some credit, they’ve been doing this shit since Marvel’s Phase One.
@@sheepbentley4717 Possibly, but hate gives the sith their power, and at that time he was probably super pissed.
"If you cared about Star Wars cannon, it would be impossible to enjoy the new Star Wars." Indeed, Rich, you've described my anguish perfectly
I dont think anyone who spells it "cannon" ever cared about canon.
Star Wars is very accurate about human nature.
People who claim to love the myth end up diluting and ruining it for their own gain.
The question is: Why should I care about Star Wars canon? It's all a fun show, but in the end it's just entertainment. A few hours of diversion. Why do people take this shit so seriously that it almost induces them to have a heart attack over whether that window in Jar Momaw Fett's space office was round or octagonal in the first prequel duology's comic book adaptation?
@@karry299 both apple and android default autocorrect “canon” to Canon or cannon, but good gatekeeping.
@@gspendlove Well, how about this. Would you care if Han just walked up to Vader in Revenge of the Sith, took his gun back, slapped him, and then shot him to bits? Movie over? I think you would. Because consistency keeps you engaged. A show is truly good when you can come back years later and find little to zero inconsistencies. It's why Lord of the Rings has stood the test of time, among other classics. People care about the canon of a thing because they are emotionally invested in the entertainment. It's the creator's job to cast a spell over his audience and engage them, and the stronger the illusion, the stronger the engagement. Personally, the more tighter a script is, the more respect I have for the people who wrote it, and the more devoted I am to their fantasy, because it shows me that they are deeply invested in my ability to get lost in their fictional world.
Jedi knights were cooler when they weren't unkillable superheroes. A lifetime of martial arts discipline and attuning to the force would give you an advantage over the average person in combat, but you wouldn't literally bring a sword to a gunfight and easily overpower 100 people shooting at you. The lightsaber was an ancient weapon that was used to challenge others trained with it for the sake of tradition, not because it was better than absolutely EVERYTHING else.
With current jedi rules, luke skywalker could have landed on endor and just ripped the shield generator apart with the force in less than a minute. It's like watching superman fight: why the fuck do i care about the conflict if i know there's no danger?
cause good witers can give him a conflict, duh
They would make good special forces now that I think about it.
thats why i hated clone wars
I can't get over that twist when Reva told Obi-Wan, "I'm Reva... Reva Skywalker." I CLAAAAAAAAPPED! You keep on hitting homeruns, Disney!
At-sts at-sts!!!
@BK Beatty Darth Wade-r*
'I shouted, I fist-pumped the air, I cried, I stood and cheered,'
Little does she know she's actually a Palpatine.
I laughed, I cried, I shit bravo Disney
My favorite part was when the villain decides to kill a random kid she knows nothing about after being established to not wanting to hurt children because she heard a random voicemail say “tatooine” and “boy”
Right? That made zero sense. I can't wait for the Reva spin off product.
I was really liking Reva’s character until episode 6. Wish they had just killed her off in 5, would’ve been more way impactful and thematically relevant to end her story on her refusing a redemption and dying as a result.
I think, and I know this is dumb, but I think the implication was she would kill Luke because he’s Vader’s child and that would be her revenge. And that’s the best I can come up with. I’m not saying it’s well explained or makes sense, but that’s ALL I can guess.
@The Rotten💯 Seriously? I mean I even agree that the story would’ve been better if she had stayed a straight up villain with no redemption, but this is Star Wars we’re talking about, a franchise that pre-Disney was built entirely around Anakin’s redemption. Whatever thousands of atrocities it’s implied Reva committed do not compare to what he’s been shown to have done in canon. He literally did choose to be the star wars hitler!
She also heard “Owen” so not a random kid she knew it was Luke
I want a season 2 where obi wan is just messing with uncle Owen by moving his farming equipment and using the force to troll him.
I love when Mike pronounces Padmé's name as "Padame"
padame amadalin
Count Doku
Quee-Gon Jin
Or Snuffleuppagus
“If you care about Star Wars canon it would be impossible to enjoy Star Wars.”
That really does explain Star Wars fans.
I care about Star Wars canon but I forgive it plenty when it's not perfect. I am still trying to figure out when the hell Kenobi owned R2-D2, so the "why didn't _______ just use the force to do ________???" stuff does not bother me, lol.
@@TheRoyalFino He didn't; R2 was lying as a means to get to Kenobi somehow. Throw in the Prequels, it's because he used to be Anakin's, and was hoping he might remember him.
yeah, remember how most the Star Wars fans do for the past decade is cry about Star Wars?
@@KanyeT1306 Also Disney: "Lets just throw out ANY previosuly written material, and just go our own direction with it!"
Again, Disney: "Man, being consisten i so haard! We gotta like think and stuff.. I wish there was like, some material we could have used as an outline for our stories.."
That's the problem with fanboys: they get so distracted with details and minutiae, treating them like the most important things, and forget about what really matters, such as the general premise, the ethos, the mood, the entire point of the whole thing.
My problem with Kenobi is that it was a story that never needed to be told.
Obi Wan living as a hermit on Tatooine for 18 odd years made sense.
Hell even a series about his struggle to stay hidden and eek out a living in the desert would have been good (the obvious drawback being ANOTHER Star Wars project being based in Tatooine).
It really is ridiculous that a sci-fi serious that is supposed to be set in a whole GALAXY focuses so much time on a desert planet that was clearly supposed to be a backwater planet that no one really wanted to be.
Disney would never do a show like that. They know the kids just want to see space battles and lightsaber duels.
@@killergoose7643 By kids you of course mean 30 and 40 year olds males right
@@killergoose7643 no, they know the manchildren will complain if they don’t get the flashbacks and cameos they want
No it did, I always wanted to see Obi wan do some Obi Wan stuff and meet Vader at least 1 time before ANH
33:24 "I think he just figured it out cause both their last names were Skywalker."
I laughed in much the same way as Rich did at exactly the same time, which in turn made me laugh even harder.
33:23 love how Jay casually points out the biggest plothole in all of Star Wars and Rich’s brain snaps
well to be fair vader hated tatooine and thought his kids were dead.
This may be irrelevant, but when Hitler rose to power he made a concerted effort to purge as much evidence of his past as possible (he even had his old school demolished). It's not beyond credulity to think Vader *might* send a squad to destroy the Lars homestead and his mother's grave etc.
If we ignore the prequels (which we should, as they add tons of continuity errors), Vader had nothing to do with Tatooine. I also feel like there can't be just 1 guy in the Galaxy named Skywalker.
Wrong, Luke's dad grew up with Owen on Tatooine acc. to Obiwan in ep4.
@@nearlydead7510 cope cope cope
Dear God.. The video description is a masterpiece... Have I been missing crucial RLM lore by not reading every video description!?!
You can tell Mike wrote it, because it talked about covid and made fun of rich
Yea there usually pretty good
I want the recipe for Clown Soup™️
I laughed myself sick reading this and spilled my Clown Soup™ everywhere.
@@Teamsoakbeans you good man?
33:20 I love how Jay is just detached enough from everything that he can actually see the wood for the trees.
That moment was hilarious.
Lmao
@Flying Fists Star Wars is about family
@Flying Fists The prequels have always been poor and have made a mess of everything. It's only blind fanboys who refuse to see it.
@Flying Fists I like your reply and it is honest and polite. The prequels were no more aimed at kids than the original trilogy. This is a fundamental mistake many fans make and it does not excuse them. I know you aren't really trying to do that. I'm on your side, but they really are a horrible mess. We can all think of a myriad of ways Lucas could have tightened the plots, used practical effects where possible, and made better casting and writing decisions.
One of the biggest of course is making Anakin a very young boy and then having an extremely poorly unfocused story with frivolous elements. It was obvious even to me when the trailers came out that Anakin should have been 16 years old already. Charismatic, interesting, but some signs of damage. What a mess those films are. God christ.
If the prequels really were that good there would not be discussions like this and a general consensus they are great. People like to tear down Jedi, and it has it's serious faults, but it also delivers some of the greatest scenes of the saga. We all know the Ewoks were a mistake, and we know Han and Leia should have had a better treatment.
Yes at least the prequels felt like Star Wars, and there are some stand out moments, but it is a mess. Disney learnt nothing really.
the reason the emotional core of the obiwan tv show is seemingly missing is because an absurd amount of modern star wars lore clings desperately onto the clone wars cartoon for dear life.
Its Because of the failed prequels mainly
I can’t tell you how often when people critique the prequels someone says “they’re redeemed by the Clone Wars show.” And I will them that you shouldn’t need to rely on supplementary material (after the fact) to give value to your existing content. That’s like saying “we’ll this video game I bought was bad but when I got the DLC it became good!”
Additional content should add to something whole , not be it’s missing part.
@@bauer0788 Cracked has a good video talking about this trend in movies.
@@bauer0788 well also the clone wars isn't that good, it's a cartoon for children
@@incognito9292 this is what everyone who consumes exclusively content for children says
when jay derailed the speculation about how Vader learned who Luke was, by pointing out they shared a surname, i clapped
Continually having power creep with your characters is fine, but not if your story isn't in chronological order.
That's why prequels are toxic.
Progressing is good and normal BUT you cant show this kinda of hotness and ask us to PRETEND they are related to the og movies with different ideas on power and how the force works.
It like having 2 matter changing magics in one book, it one or the other.
DBZ is the classic example of meaningless power-level inflation. Funny how so many other shows follow its lead.
@@CJWilly Yeah but DBZ is at least chronological. We aren't hopping back in time to find out characters were actively 200x more powerful than they are chronologically later.
@@skeetsmcgrew3282 That's how I've always thought of it. The prequels has an army of Jedi, all trained. You have your strongest force users (Obi-wan, Yoda, Palpatine, Anakin, and Count Dooku) who do crazy things. So, while not perfectly consistent, there's some logic there. But, then you go to the last trilogy and all of that goes out the window. Even if Rey is super powerful, like Anakin was, she ended up using her powers like the super powerful people who had lifetimes of training with very little training.
The fact that it actually was a 2 hour movie script written in 2017 which was stretched into a 6 hour tv show script shows us how smart Mike really is
He's going to find out and then make a video to flex about it. In response to the "Mike is so stupid" video by Rich and Jay when he got it wrong which trilogy had the clone Palpatine and which had the real one.
@@AnnaMarianne Also the fact he mentions that the lightsabers are heavy to an untrained user, which is true in rebels with the dark saber. Disney needs to hire mike as the lore master
Nah he just cant admit it was garbage writing
6 30 minute episodes
@@ottoginafiel5468 But that statement is true though, It was meant to be a movie but since solo flopped and barely make any money Disney panicked and force the Creator to turn the obi-wan movie into a show.
"I'd just start chopping 'em up."
Mike knows that'll work. He's watched Surviving Edged Weapons.
My favourite joke I've seen about this series is "leave it to Disney to make Obi wan about a 45 year old man who has to think of a ten year old girl to get his rocks off." 🤣
Oh god, that’s horribly hilarious
Beautiful
I want an end credits like scene where a dark, mysterious, hooded figure appears, face shrouded in shadow, and says,
“Yousa in big doo-doo now.”
You need to listen to the Story Break Jar-Jar saga podcast.
Your idea needs to go even further...he starts in that patois, but ends his sentence with a rich, regal British voice...showing us how dark and evil his plans as the one true Lord of the Sith are.
@@Nieghorn veeeery cool
“Dissen berry berry bad”
That's the only thing that could save Star Wars now
Alec Guinness once said in an interview that George's scripted dialogue in A New Hope was "absolutely appalling"
Still better than the script in Space Cop.
@@arbiter8246 Too much rhyming
"and he was a good friend"
“Ah, there you are.”
@@arbiter8246 so it wasn't just me thinking that their pet project should have been funnier
This is perfection, it was meant to be the wrap up for the Obi-Wan series but it feels like a wrap-up of the entire franchise. _"They didn't even change Luke's name!"_ 😂💯
"Fun" fact: Chewie died when a moon fell on him as they left him behind on a planet that was doomed. No one "force threw" it though.
I got Peter Mayhew to autograph the book where that happened. Under his name he wrote "Chewie Lives".
@@Trilaan tongue in cheek I presume
@@Junuman1 The first thing he did when I put it in front of him was make a cross out of his fingers to ward it away.
Legends? Lmao. Stop, just stop. Legends never happened
@@John-jt4ol Here's a news flash. Nothing Star Wars ever happened, it's all fiction.
All of the classic expanded universe has better writing than anything the Disney activists have lazily tried to copy.
And that's the Star Wars fiction I enjoy.
The look on Mike’s face when Jay points out Mike just recycled a Rian Johnson plot beat is truly priceless.
And he had totally forgotten about it too lol
Mike is a real one
He hates that movie just like any sane person
@@unclephillymya you need to rewatch that part 29:28
I hated the way it was executed in the film. Didn't feel like we had enough flashbacks to get to that point. It kinda just happens
Stories stretched out beyond breaking point with filler? "Oh no! They're coming for us! We've got to run down this hallway to get away!" Wow, honestly didn't realise Disney were such big fans of classic Dr Who.
I still don't understand how Reva not only got off of the planet after being stabbed (what ship did she suddenly find?), nor why she decided to go after Luke. Reva didn't know Leia or Luke were Vader's children, she only kidnapped Leia to draw out Kenobi. So... Why did she want to kill Luke? What vengeance would she have gotten in killing a random child she only knows has some connection to Kenobi? My poor brain.
Sith are not the most emotionally stable people.
If apprently she can put 2 and 2 together that Vader was Anakin, it wouldn't surprise me if she figured they were Vader's kid
@@distinguishedallureproduct879 but Vader doesnt even know his own kids exist or are alive. Last he saw Padme she was pregnant and he "kills" her. So how does Reva manage to piece that together when the only people that know are Kenobi, Yoda, Bail and his wife, Owen and Beru.
I mean she literally had Leia as a hostage and didn't know she was a skywalker. So how does a broken recording of Bail saying "Owen, Tatooine, the child" give her any context clues to Vader's lineage?
Yeah that was the worse part about episode 6. No time to breathe on that thing. Then also Obi wan has to go there fast to end that other arc
@@medhathobo except palpatine
When I was learning to fly propellor planes, my instructor had me hold a rod with a spinning bicycle wheel on the end of it. It’s not easy to move such a rod in the intended direction. That’s what Mike’s description of lightsabers sounds like.
what are you a ww2 conscript? fly a jet
18:40 "It looks cool, but it drives me fucking nuts." -- "That's Star Wars :)"
That really is the essence of the whole franchise for the past 35 years.
Yep; non-rational indulgence.
To Rich’s point about the laser sword, I always thought, until the prequels of course, that a light saber was a crutch for force users that hadn’t mastered the force yet. That’s why the Emperor was mocking Luke by saying “Take your Jedi weapon” in return of the Jedi. Because both he and Yoda had no sabers…until the prequels…
Thats my head cannon now.
Same here...
Obi-Wan had a lightsaber in New Hope though.
@@RandomlyAwesomeFilms Head canon is the only sane canon anymore, when it comes to Star Wars... and Star Trek.
@@nolandavis1129 cuz he was an old man that was essentially still a hermit. No where near Yoda or palpy. And Vader was constricted to using a saber forever because he got burned up by lava
My favorite part during their fight is when Vader attacked Obi Wan with rocks from above. He literally attacked him with the “High Ground”. It’s like pottery.
I love pottery
I don’t, it’s course and rough.
@@jackunderhill4444 but it can smooth and soft.
@@mrdrprof99 but then it breaks easily….
@@makasete30 just like the Star wars lore
The “force” being able to do basically anything really does water down the entire Star Wars world.
Rich is correct
Star Wars has basically been reduced to Deus Ex Forcina.
No, its not the deus ex "force" that is the problem. Altough it is part of the problem. It is the inconsistency. Any issue that pops up or cool moment they need, is explained with the force. Like one of the most important things in a movie, show or books is CONSISTENCY. If a magic wand can throw spells with a magic word but NOT change shape or throw spells through thought. It is BAD WRITING to then later, change that. Like Obi suddenly being much stronger in the force than previously shown. Even Darth Vader using the force actively, something anakin was not prone to do. ESPECIALLY in fights. Stuff beyond their power level. Or when characters like Rey just suddenly do "new" things with the force just because. POOR WRITING.
It does not have to be expressly stated. But if your protagonist Paul finds a stick and realizes it can do magic when he speaks some words from a book. You can`t later haver other people use their minds to cast or have the wand change shape. Because THEN you need to explain that. Not brush it off! Because the world suffers for it, it`s limits get washed out and us the audience struggle to suspend our disbelief if you start messing with the rules. It is simply stronger if Paul would discover that other shit by accident. Because you are world building. Setting the stage. Alluding to the limitations of the world, so we the audience can gauge what is happening.
Like currency. It means fuck all if 10 dollars is 2 million vietnamese.. Whatevers. That tells me nothing. But if i know what a beer costs in vietnamese whatevers, that gives me perspective! That perspective is important to follow the story. And should not be undermined.
If a fantasy world is attacked by monsters they gotta come from somewhere. If they later in the movie pop up somewhere unexpected and be like "oh yeah, btw we have this set of tunnels" that just throws any worldbuilding out the window.
Remember Midichlorians? Maybe they populate like bacteria in the jedi gut or something. So they should make midichlorian kombucha... brew the stuff somewhere and you could boost your "force", dunno just adding some flavor to the concept.. lol.
@@JOSEPH-vs2gc WHAT ARE YOU DOING!!?
What if the Disney ppl read this shit. You KNOW how creatively inept they are.
They will jump on this idea and have a whole new sixology. Star Wars: Kombucha Legends.
@@olesams Bro the Trailer for the Kombucha legends will be lit, i cant wait
"Basil Oregano." I'm dying. XD
The whole point Obi-Wan is on Tatooine is to HIDE from the Empire, to watch and protect Luke, and to not be slaughtered by the Emperor's new enforcer.
Then he proceeds to do the opposite.
Thanks for pointing that out.
To me they could never have that make sense no matter how good it was.
Vader and Obiwan met for the first time in decades at the Death Star except for those other 4 times that it happened i guess idk buy Disney+
and he does it again to give Leia a pep talk and also Lola
And opens the door to why Vader didnt just go kill him? Like bring the whole empire to take him out... or use the death star?
This breaks star wars because the people who wrote it dont care about you.
To be fair, Star Wars has always been goofy pulp nonsense. Lucas could barely hold together a continuity over the original trilogy... and people expect this shit to hold together after 40 more years, 8 more movies and a half dozen TV shows?
When Obi-Wan shouted “It’s Kenobi time!” I cheered. It reminded me of the hit film Morbius.
Is that the hit Sony film that made Morbillions?
I loved it when he Orb-ed out
Hope this is sarcasm?Morbius was a sh*t movie.
Then he killed all those dudes with his light saber and said "Catch ya on the flip side, Tatoo-weenies!" Then he did a force flip and dunked a basketball.
@@yostugotz5619 uh oh we got a morbophobe in here
dumb nitpick of course but when they're talking about Vader finding out who Luke is at around 34:00, there is literally a scene in Empire where Vader talks to the Emperor and the Emperor literally tells him "hey that kid that blew up the Death Star is the son of Anakin Skywalker." so to me that's definitely possible to be the point he finds out for the first time.
That’s also a Special Edition change though. Not saying it’s not “canon” now but there’s a decent chance the RLM boys have never seen that version or don’t remember that dialogue, if they aren’t just contemptuous of the change.
@@halfbreedjew2377 No even in the original scene with the original emperor he says "We have a new enemy....Luke Skywalker..."
Doesn't the opening title crawl say Darth Vader is obsessed with finding Luke? While they never met in ep 4, he did have the "The force is strong with this one." moment.
I assumed that in between the films he does what he told Luke to do. He searched his feelings and something something force. Yoda even explains that the force lets you see through time and space and, uh, love. It makes much more sense to me that he knew Luke's identity from the very start of Empire.
and i always had the impression james earl jones tried to use jedi mind tricks on luke though luke resists, he still fears for the safety of leia which i assumed based on the way he phrases the next line: "sister, you have a sister. If I can't get what you want from you I'll get it from her" or something to that effect, which causes luke to go berserk and embrace the dark side [?] or maybe im wrong I haven't watched the films since childhood
I think the implication was: 1. Luke's identity is made public after blowing up the death star 2. Vader finds out from the emperor. I think the modern versions do both and the original is maybe just more number 1
When Jay said that the moment where Vader “absolves” Obi wan of killing Anakin, I agree that’s one of the best moments/ideas in the series. Even if not executed perfectly, we get to see the growth from the grieving obi wan at the end of Revenge of the Sith, to obi wan in A New Hope who is at peace with himself. Likewise, I like how this series changes the tone of Leia’s plea for help to Obi Wan. It’s not just a call to a random eccentric Jedi in hiding, she’s reaching out to someone she knows personally and has a deeper connection to. “My only hope” indeed.
A wise man once said :" Don't ask questions, consume product. Get excited for next product."
Never think about the product you must consume or you may find the product is actually growing mold all over it.
I think Quee-Gon said that in AOTC.
Mike pronouncing “Dooku” as “Doe-Koo” will never get old for me.
According to Lucas, Count Dooku's name comes from the japanese word doku (meaning poison), so it makes more sense than you might think.
And instead of Padme, Padumay
and rich for some reason saying "kwee-gon jinn" despite everyone around him saying it correctly.
I think that is actually how GL said the name. It's just all the actors and people that say it with easier vowels in English.
If you knew what it means in portuguese you would like it even more.
Jay’s surname breakthrough is an all time RLM moment
I lost it. He just casually points out the most obvious plot hole that somehow no one ever talks about
And they were oblivious while making the Plinketts lol
33:00
How the scene with the star destroyer chasing the rebel transport should have ended:
Inquisitor: "Kenobi is on that shuttle, but we must keep pursuing transport and destroy that rebel cell now while we have the chance."
Vader: "No problem, I'll just take one of the 48 TIE fighters we have on board. You continue pursuit of the transport and order the other 47 TIEs to attack it in close combat. They'll have a better chance of hitting it."
This! Literally this! I was so frustrated
It’s just a cope, but maybe he can’t fit in one. He is like 6.7 feet tall after all. He had that special Advanced model in the OT.
The last 10 minutes of this episode; *Disney execs unironically taking notes like RLM were spitting gold*
I wish they would, because RLM's joke ideas are always more interesting than the shit Hollywood actually ends up making...
@@korganrocks3995 AMEN! WELL SAID SIR.
Didn't they announce animated series with young Dooku and young Qui-Gon? I'm sure I've seen some promos
Disney Star Wars: Where any character can get stabbed in the stomach by a lightsaber and be perfectly fine in the next episode.
It's just a flesh wound
Apparently the Grand Inquisitor’s species has two stomachs which is why he survived, but you wouldn’t know that unless you looked that specific information up and he just excuses it using the “Man Literally too Angry to Die” meme.
@@oneinathousand2156 Apparently Reva must have THREE stomachs....
They are just special light sticks in Disney canon.
Ok I can’t stop fucking laughing at Mike bringing up how the Darksaber works without knowing that’s accurately what he’s describing
that's why the Mandalorians and the Darksaber are much more interesting than the Jedi and the Force
@@reek4062 It helps that they're not magic, they're just really competent soldiers/mercenaries.
Always thought a war between the mandalorians and jedi would've been a better conflict for the sequels.
@@KaiserSynd1918You and I both know no RLM fans give two shits about the expanded universe and the cool stuff there. "Takes away the mystery" also the darksaber is inferior to the mask of mandalore
The expanded universe might itself be good but the problem I have with fans who bring it up is that they think that good stuff out there improves the bad stuff right here. 'Clone Wars makes the prequels waayy better'. No, they don't.
The last ~6 minutes of this made me feel like I was drowning in a pit of fan fiction and Corporate Product. Tell my kids I love them.
I love how every time Rich Evans says he doesn't care about Star Wars canon, they show the Star Wars cannon.
He's selective about what continuity (canon) he cares about like everybody else. I dont think hes drawing a real distinction between him and anyone else really.
I missed that the first time lol
@@RandomlyAwesomeFilms for sure, he's just telling his own opinion. Just thought the editing was funny lol
Jay: "I'm beginning to think Star Wars is kinda stupid." Rich: "Welcome to the party." Perfect!!
Yeah I loved that exchange. It was a wildly inconsistent universe even before Disney came a long.
You’d expect Rich to be saying that to Jay, not the other way around
Disney really needs to stop hiring indie writers that haven't done more than one project.
@@gubshitescholarship7043 it works for the animated movies, so I don’t se them stopping.
It's true I never really got the sense of a friendship between Anakin and Obi-Wan in the prequels either. In fact I got a sense of Anakin as being a sociopath who didn't like anyone except for Padme who he was unhealthily obsessed with.
Agreed. You have to watch the clone wars to care about the relationship between the two.
No there was a friendship in episode 2 they were mentor student and friends and in the first half they were really good friends and anakin never hated obi wan but was angry with him, it's lucas direction that gave that impression they werent.
The problem with the show and the franchise over the past 25 years is that everything is a prequel and there is no drama. Leia gets captured, Luke is pursued by Reva, Kenobi and Vader fight twice. Pssst…..we all know what happens! Even when it starts telling stories post-Return of the Jedi, it can’t help but go backwards. Palpatine comes back in Episode 9, Luke saves the day in the Mandallorian, etc.
The franchise is just stuck in this timeframe because of nostalgia but it sapps any new/interesting storytelling.
Well it's not impossible hell Clone Wars is considered some of the best Star Wars content
Ever heard of Knights of the Old Republic? Or the Thrawn Trilogy? Or the New Jedi Order books?
This is quite possibly the dumbest out of touch take ive seen
no one knew what happened during the clone wars, hence TCW. No one knew what happened between 4-5 or 6-7, hence the shows.
The Yuuzhan Vong would bring some drama i tell you what
"If you cared about Star Wars canon, it would be impossible to enjoy Star Wars." -- insanely accurate, Rich.
Exactly. That one stuck to me, too.
Yeah, felt called out there. Couldn't appreciate any of the good aspects of this show because all the lore breaking bothered me too much.
If Disney Lucas film dose not care about continuity and narrative, why should I care about Disney?
I can manage both, but it does sometimes get in the way.
Rich is always on point unless he is star wars theory
That point at 22:20 Mike is going on an angry rant about lightsabers, Jay looks at the camera and either gives the audience “the look” or whoever is behind the camera is absolute gold. Jay is so underrated
The only time people rate Jay poorly is in relation to Rich Evans, and rightly so, for Rich Evans is the friends we made along the way
The thing about lightsabers is that I don't think they were ever really depicted as a *replacement* for blasters and ranged weaponry in the original trilogy. I haven't seen the films in a while, but I can only remember one scene where they were used against someone who didn't also have a lightsaber, and that was when Luke was attacking people at the Sarlacc Pit. And during that fight, he used his lightsaber to deflect a blaster bolt, but otherwise I don't think there were very many scenes of people deflecting blaster bolts with their lightsabers in the original trilogy. (Forgive me if I'm missing some instances.)
My point is that I think lightsabers ARE NOT on par with blasters and other ranged weaponry even in the hands of a skilled user. A Jedi who has superhuman reflexes can deflect a handful of blaster shots, but an army of people with blasters would still have a very good chance of killing them (as we saw happen in the Order 66 stuff in Revenge of the Sith). So the whole point of the lightsabers originally is they were a ceremonial form of dueling between Jedi Knights, not a tool for modern warfare. I mean, just think of the real life situation of Japan when guns were introduced and used to pretty much exterminate the samurai who opposed the government, or how Oda Nobunaga defeated many rival warlords by incorporating firearms into his army, and you'll see the comparison.
Basically, in the original trilogy, lightsabers were like a weapon of a bygone era of combat between "nobles" that were still around as a sort of remnant of that era. They weren't a replacement for blasters. Hell, Luke even used a blaster throughout A New Hope and Empire Strikes Back. But I think basically what happened is that people made a ton of video games, extended universe stuff, and then the prequel movies that completely missed this point and forever fucked up lightsabers.
My two cents.
Back before the prequels I always assumed master Force users were so OP they didn't actually need Lightsabers or Blasters anyway. Yoda didn't have one and neither did the Emperor.
Vader didn't even need one to block blaster fire as evidenced in Empire Strikes Back. It being a ceremonial thing makes sense.
Lets get it right. Vader and Kenobi were just try-hard weeaboo posers. C'mon man, the dude went around telling people his name was "Obi-Wan" when his real name is "Ben". Not to mention Vader's peculiar obsession with 10th century Japanese defensive headgear.
Luke was young and impressionable, but alas he too was swept up and indoctrinated into the casual insanity that is melee vs ranged assault weapons.
That is pretty much agreed since only Jedi and Sith use them and by A New Hope the Jedi are long gone. Due mostly to Order 66. So the rest of the galaxy would little to no knowledge of them.
@@skeetsmcgrew3282 "Hokey religions and ANCIENT weapons" he said. Meaning that it was ancient long long before the event's of order 66. That was simply the end. And I think less then half of the galaxy would have experience with them however many they were. So without Jedi or Sith involvement, how would ANYONE know?
The feeing I had on watching the OT back before any prequels was that there weren’t all that many Jedi left by the time Obi-Wan decided to train Anakin. They were already dieing out, hence the Emperor and Darth Vader’s ability to consolidate power using this “ancient religion”
In actual medieval history, having designated ceremonial dueling weapons was a big deal. Huge amounts of literature was written on the topic, and many specialty weapons existed that likely never saw an actual battlefield.
I do love the description of how lightsabers should work, is exactly/very similar how they were described to work in the EU. Gyroscopic effect and the likes, thus the force was mandatory to wield one effectively.
I got excited at 19:13 Mike when says, “Let me get all this out.”
That’s the reason we’ve been watching Red Letter Media for 12+ years. 🤣🤣🤣
I love how Jay starts laughing *immediately* every time Mike starts a sentence with "Do you remember when..".
It's fucked up how Mike and Jay actually nailed exactly how Vader finds out how Luke is his son. In a canon Vader comic, that takes place between A New Hope and Empire Strikes Back, Vader finds out Luke is his son through Boba Fett, who was hired to capture the pilot who destroyed the Death Star. When Boba reports back to Vader, he says he didn't capture the pilot, but that he knew the pilot's name was Skywalker, and that's how Vader realizes Luke was his son. I dunno is this is genius, depressing, or both, but probably both,.
That's so incredibly and terribly sad IMHO. It's not genius, it's just terrible, terrible writing on behalf of everyone involved in anything post OT. The thing is, watching the OT as a kid, I, and so many other fans, came to the conclusion that Vader, having the force, in their first meeting and their collision, their fight simply FELT Luke was his son. We naturally understood this deep, natural, also outworldly father and son connection (that doesn't really exist but we all wish it did) is also what made him (Vader) let Luke live even if this budding young jedi was obviously a threat best dealt with expeditively. It was about family, and that's what was so strong about it.
Having some bounty hunter or other say some dumb ass last name or something is so INFINITELY less interesting and satisfying than that.
Wasn't there a scene in Empire where Emperor tells DV that the offspring of Anakin Skywalker survived?
I just always kinda figured that's how DV found out. 😂😅
That comic doesn't need to exist, lol
@@megazard5249 Even though the line about Luke being the son of Anakin wasn’t in the original, the special edition still has Vader refer to Luke as Skywalker when hunting him down saying “Skywalker is with them (Han and the others)” before the scene with the Emperor. So now it appears that Vader is simply lying that he didn’t know to hide his ulterior motive of having Luke join him to overthrow the Emperor, and it’s also implied that the Emperor knows about Vader’s plan and is most likely orchestrating the whole conversation to have Vader agree to bring Luke to him so he can be his new apprentice. So basically just a bunch of Sith mind games.
Also in the comics, it’s revealed that Vader and Luke met between A New Hope and The Empire Strikes Back. Luke tells him he is going to avenge his father by killing Vader to which Vader just steals his lightsaber. He is about to kill Luke when he notices the lightsaber Luke was using belongs to Anakin. So Vader probably had his suspicions on who Luke was and when Boba Fett tells him that Luke’s last name is also Skywalker, those suspicions are confirmed and that Luke really is his son.
@@codinghusky5196 Why should he just sense that he's his son for no reason? He never met him before. A reasonable explanation would be that everyone would know who destroyed the death star. Word comes around, Vader notices that the same guy who shared his last name blew up the death star and was strong in the force. Does some digging and hires spies and whatnot and confirms it. No reason for this shallow wanna-be deep nonsense.
@@nearlydead7510 Yeah, I definitely agree that it's most likely Darth Vader would eventually find out who blew up the Death Star sooner or later, since it made Luke kinda famous. Also, does everyone in Star Wars have a unique last name, or what? Hearing that a guy named "Skywalker" blew up the Death Star wouldn't be enough to make Vader go "oh shit that's definitely my son," would it? It could easily be his cousin or a total coincidence, so he'd probably need to search his feelings with the force or whatever anyway
What RLM show clearly shows is that these 3 guys put more thought into the the Star Wars story than anyone at Disney or Lucas can be bothered while being paid to do just that.
The last episode proves that this entire series could’ve just been a 2 hour movie. Probably would’ve been better that way, honestly.
It probably was a movie at one point.
IT WAS! The screenwriter said it was supposed to be a movie trilogy but Solo’s performance tanked the idea
@@ShadowtheRenamon cuz it was alongside booba feet
I wish it had been a movie. Can't wait to see an edit of it
@@yash_kapoor Trilogy omegalul
"If you cared about Star Wars canon it would be impossible to enjoy Star Wars"
Damn he's actually right.
i dont care about star trek canon yet new trek still upsets me
@@Inkdisc Nu-Trek, like the SW prequels/sequels, is all completely inconsistent with their franchise's original work. Practically different entities than what they once were, before their respective reboots (Phantom Menace / Force Awakens & Star Trek 09).
It's definitely hard to separate all the great stuff of the past from all the muck nowadays, but the truth is that these franchises died a long time ago. Their corpses are on display for all to see (on Disney + & Paramount +, specifically).
@@user-dnf83n0s8sg9u I'm fortunate I have no problem separating old vs new Trek. The differences on every level between the periods are so large you can trivially draw a line between them and ignore everything past that line.
Oh nooo... consistency!!
@@TheVivapinsam *inconsistency
When I heard Mike say very cool again, I cried butterfly tears
I guess ive always viewed lightsabers as sort of a tiebreaker. Like vader can absolutely use the force to clown on a rookie hes not worried about, but then when youre in a confrontation with someone whos just as in tune with it as you are you kind of need something to settle the score instead of just pushing your force juice at each other so the jedi sort of crafted an entirely new form of combat around it. When i imagine the forces effectiveness in fights i imagine theres a certain level of caution in using it against another force user because it still takes a second to focus and you never know if your combatant is better at it than you. Plus i can totally see if youre a space cop needing to plow through an army of droids every day maybe youd rather just use a lethal laser stick instead of having to constantly tune yourself in with the universe
@@PodreyJenkin138 king
@@PodreyJenkin138 I don't think it was a particular novel that made that statement. From what I know the EU (Legends) established over its long run that one of the basics of force training is for the user to apply a force barrier of sorts on their person so that they can protect themselves against some techniques such as push/pull. Just another reason why EU/Legends was better since they actually did expand a lot on many things.
I just loved seeing Vadar landing his shuttle approach Obi and ask "So have you come to destroy me Obi-Wan?"
@@cartoonking1789 needs a tune up at EmPalSuRecon
@@N0TYALC Well, the star destroyer is obviously in orbit waiting for him. Was he going to call on a space uber once his business was concluded?
@@TheRedGauntlet Yeah those star destroyers have like 90 TIE fighters on board. This show is garbage
@@TheRedGauntlet TIE fighters have no hyperdrives (at least not until the sequels). Good luck following a ship that has one.
@@KarmaKahn Was it, though? I feel like Obi-Wan couldn't have left so easily if it were.
"I'm starting to think Star Wars is kinda stupid." -Jay
The franchise in a nutshell...wasn't expected to be so big, and had a lot of shortcomings the more you look into it. Disney makes it ALL the more obvious...
The original stand alone trilogy is great and the mystery behind the Force could gloss over plot inconsistencies.
The prequels were terrible and the sequels even worse, as they ruined the legacy of established characters
Disney did not make it obvious. They just did nothing with anything.
Star Wars should have ended in 1983. And maybe do something more with books, comics and videogames (the expanded universe)
@@KorporalNoobs They did plenty, just nothing that really furthered it along in a positive way. Quite the opposite.
@@alonsorojas7885 It did.
these guys are so jaded they dont even feel the 2nd hand embarrassment of some of these scenes
its the worst aspects of the prequels without any of the good stuff
Genuinely shocked and a little disappointed to hear that they like this. I think the writing in this show is some of the very worst in Star Wars and even if you turn off your brain/no expectations it’s just very dull and incompetently made. The action scenes are terrible and I think there’s too much illogical and wtf stuff in it to actually turn off your brain and ignore. Like I tried and then something would happen and I’m like why did she/he do that? What’s going on??
There was good stuff in the prequels?
@@wephilips6651 they like what they like and you dislike what you dislike. It's just opinions, it's fine
@@TheDCbiz John Williams' score and Palpatine.
@@reek4062 I only like Palpetine in rots and the score is good.
24:11 you still need the force if you want to deflect stuff -- unless you are REALLY lucky there's no way to predict the blaster bolt path and you're liable to just take the shot in the chest. the precognition the force provides is what makes deflecting blaster bolts possible.
Or you could just use power armor and tank the shots. But Lucas didn't think of that, even though Starship Troopers had been written.
30:00
"Did Kylo Rem killed Baby Yoda?"
"We can only hope."
The actual answer is no.
Kylo only intentionally killed a one of Luke's students, and Grogu wasn't there at all.
Sadly this was in a comic mini-series rather than in the movie.
That said The Rise of Kylo Ren is really worth reading. Really short and provides much needed context.
Im so glad there are others like me
The Book Of Boba Fett reveals Baby Yoda's (current) fate.
Well no because if you've seen Book of Boba Fett...
Kylo Rem is Kylo Ren's cousin, who was horribly disfigured by radiation poisoning due to a leaky hyperdrive. We don't talk about him.
33:19 Lmao, Jay basically nailed it. I know y’all don’t care about expanded media, but in the comics Boba Fett is hired to find the dude that destroyed the Death Star by Vader, and he reports back with only one name, “Skywalker.” Dun dun dun!!!
Yeah, you're absolutely right. We don't give a shit about expanded media.
There's a really cool panel just after that moment in the comic where Vader is shown in silhouette and you can see the outline of Hayden Christianson Anakin and Natalie Portman Padme on Geonosis as they share a kiss before being carted into the arena.
QuiGon's line should be "Use the force Obi-Wan" to help him get his mojo back, when it was all dire for him.
It's like poetry :)
33:05 all-time great RLM moment here... And Jay's best moment of 2022. Absolutely awesome.
Don't forget, Count Dooku was young Qui-Gon's master before he turned evil, so you'd have to include middle aged Jedi Dooku as well
Awesome! A deaged, albeit dead Christopher Lee, played by a stunt double, wearing a green mask so the computers can go "WHRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR," and give him a terrible computer face. Maybe he can bounce off the walls while flailing his laser sword and use the force to throw Yavin 2 at Darth Plagueis -- all while we destroy the dignity of another legendary actor, because Disney owns anyone who has ever been in a Star Wars movie even in death. Do you smell that? It smells like Nerd money.
@@SSky06 not only computer face, voice too, a completely fake human just for a silly plot point, right up Disney's alley
@@SSky06 No they'll just use the clone wars 3d face! They can even use the animated show actor, the algoritm said it's popular.
@I Oh, the worst is yet to come my friend. Your mind just isn’t prepared yet…
There is something in a Darth Vader comic that uses the force in a cool way like Mike suggested.
Vader fights against the scientist who designed his suit and the guy shuts it down so Vader can't move so Vader uses the force to move his own body and more or less tells him 'Bitch I don't need your science, I got the force lmao'
Of course his suit has a shutdown button, as if all the beeping and the shoes that don't fit weren't enough.
@@someguy1478 I believe the exact line from the comic is 'Beepity boo, the force ain't with you'
Those comics are utter garbage.
@@cyn1x62 I wouldn't say garbage, some of them are pretty cool, but they don't have amazing writing, I'll give you that.
There's a snippet in Shadows of the Empire where it explains that Vader is practicing not needing his suit to breathe (that's why the helmet is off in ESB.)
These are dark days when even RLM says to just consume the corporate product
If true, explains the sub-2M views.
lol, when do they say that?
The saddest thing about this re:view is that this is probably the last Star Wars related discussion they'll ever have for a while, and because of that they are missing out on how surprisingly good the Andor series is.
It isn't.
@@OpenMawProductions nope, it's very good.
@@mapk1516 It isn't.
Is it good or are all the other star wars PRODUCTS just that bad?
@@OpenMawProductions Most media literate rlm fan
The series is filled with great ideas but were bogged down by the need to include random characters and plots that didn't need to be there. This should've been Old Man Logan but with Obi Wan but instead we got the Inquisitor plot, underground Jedi railroads and another escort mission with a child. When it focused on Vader and Obi Wan it was great but, of course, they needed to make it a Disney+ series instead of a nice 2 hour film and as such had to include filler to get the 6 episodes.
On another note, you guys definitely need to check out Strange New Worlds. It's a lot like old Trek that you've been wanting.
Great?
No.
Passable?
No.
Enjoyable?
A little bit, if you turn of your brain entirely you'll like it more though.
Overall I hated it.
well said.
The problem is that they’re great ideas from other Star Wars movies done much much MUCH worse. The show is crap.
nah
And the Inquisitors didnt do anything but stand around.
The Obi-Wan show was 5 hours of content just to fix a single throwaway line in ANH that “a young Jedi named Darth Vader" killed Luke's father. Just like Solo was two hours of content to fix the "less then 20 parsecs" line.
Does that line in a New Hope even have to be fixed? I always assumed Obi Wan was altering the story to put Luke's mind at ease, so he wouldn't think his father was the tyrant that Darth Vader is. It felt like a calculated lie to keep Luke out of trouble and not feel the need to go running off and getting himself killed.
@@ihappy1 actually, he meant it. Vader killed Luke's father. But in Episode 5 they retconned that.
It never needed to be fixed. Obi Wan was clearly lying to not hurt Luke.
Oh no, you forgot the most important thing in Solo ... the Dice ... They're the most significant thing in StarWars.
@@ihappy1 I thought of it as that, but also as it was metaphorically true: the Vader persona took over and "killed off" who Anakin used to be. Which I guess is reiterated here? I haven't watched the show, but I assumed the main point was to establish when Obi-Wan learns who Darth Vader is.
If they had just done a wondering samurai/ronin Obi-Wan series, like the Mandalorian was a western...Just Obi-Wan not caring anymore, going from planet-to-planet having adventures Yojimbo-style, slowly redeeming himself.
They already kinda do that stuff in Mando and Boba Fett.
They might be saving the samurai movie stuff for the Ahsoka show.
Here to appreciate Rich saying "I officially do not give a sh*t about Star Wars canon" cut to: stormtroopers loading a cannon. ☺
It’s like poetry
So, like, I’m a pretty normal 43 year-old dude who was pretty nerdy as a kid and grew up loving Star Wars and everything, but somehow it wasn’t until Mike accidentally called George "Luke" in this video that it finally hit me:
Lucas.
Luke S.
🤯
Kanye said it first
😉
It's like poetry.
@callmecatalyst mr west
That is exactly how they portray Mando using the dark saber. George has actually said before that the original concept of the lightsaber was precisely what you're talking about; Lucas described it as a firehose of pure energy.
Plus Finn was confirmed to be force sensitive by Abrams which explains how he used the lightsaber.
okay, then in prequels he makes them push items so easily and flip around with that light energy, Lucas is joke, why i hate Prequels so much it slap to face compared to 4-6
@@kyotheman69 Lucas has more creative talent in his pinky than you will ever have in your entire life.
@@alexanderthegreat7329 found George Lucas' RUclips account
@@alexanderthegreat7329 He does, but he's cursed to have incredibly inventive ideas that are all really stupid.
"Revenge does wonders for the will to live" sounds like a lime George Lucas would write.
Would George put the lime in the coconut and drink it all together?
SHhhhhh.. we can't badmouth anything outside of the sequels..only those can have bad elements?
@@bauer0788 it's so goofy the way people are trying to retroactively put the prequels on a pedestal. Even if you appreciate elements of and the intentions behind that trilogy, you'd have to admit there's pretty serious problems with the way they're written and directed.
@@immortaluglyfish2724
Oh definitely.
I’m in the camp of both trilogies have good and bad.
I hate the camps that say “prequels perfect. Sequels all bad. No questions asked. If you disagree you clearly aren’t a REAL Star Wars fan!”
The totally good delivery made it even "better".
Wow, glad to see that this channel is still alive. I remember watching RLM in 2010 on your own website, episodes 1-3. I have probably never laughed that much in my life. Now I will begin watching this review, cant wait!!
Definitely go and watch their reviews for the Sequels. There's also Plinkett reviews for Force Awakens and Last Jedi, probably my favorite ones.
@@user-dnf83n0s8sg9uIf you watched Star Trek Picard then watch their review as well...It's overwhelmingly hilarious..
"Star Wars is creatively bankrupt." Simple, precise, accurate. Rich Evans.
Therefore they can’t remove the fan service and nostalgic references.
@@reek4062 except for last jedi when they actually tried to go in a different direction and everyone lost their shit 😂🤣
No, the writers behind it are
@@alucard2010 Except they didn't actually go in a different direction at all. It was nothing more than bait, a tease.
@@Tetragrammaton22 actually they did. They killed off the emperor and eliminated the blood lines plus many other things.. So now the next movie can expand on those ideas . But nope, fans cried and we got nostalgia and bringing back dead people 🙄
41:00 , what rich is describing is literally what happens in the kenobi novel ! where he has to reject a lady who falls in love with him because he needs to stay back and keep an eye on luke
I love how they are legit picking the good stuff from the EU without really knowing they are.
A love story would have been really good for the plot imo. But we got the Tala girl
@@dingleburryjoe9437 read a book called “Kenobi”
It's funny that the thing Mike is describing about the lightsaber being unweildy was touched upon in the Mandaloran episodes in Boba Fett
25:50 Oh my god, they actually did that?! That was a running gag that I had with my friends during the prequels. I said that there would be a scene at the end of Ep3 in which Obi Wan says to R2 and 3P0, "If you and I should cross paths in the future, we must act as if we have never met." The joke being that it's obviously bad writing. I can't believe that Disney Star Wars actually did that with Leia.
I really liked how Reva turned out to be Leia the whole time, really blew my mind. That & how Obi-wan was Liam Neeson. Oh, & Vader was a wampa. Such a twist.
I loved it when Jeff Goldblum and Gandhalf blew up those damn Ewoks.
It subverted the fuck out of my expectations
Sounds better than what they actually did. 😂
Obi-Wan Leeson had a special set of skills
@@nicholastotoro7721 Darth Taken
41:00 I always love when Rich keeps talking even though his oxygen supply is running out and desperately needs to take a breath.
Milwaukee is 6000 feet above sea level after all
Mike, Rich and Jay keep giving billion dollars-making scenarios to Disney it’s amazing
The best part of this is that all 3 of them, but especially Mike, become perceptibly more inebriated as the video progresses. Good stuff.
Rich doesn't drink alcohol. Like at all.
Man, please never stop doing this content. It’s been 7 years watching you and each upload entertains me as much as the first I saw. Thank you so much.
Too bad they retire tomorrow.
7 years? Gotta pump those numbers up. Those are rookie numbers in this racket.
Same. I don't two flying fucks about star wars, or trek. Yet somehow they still manage to make me want to watch these. Is this Stockholm syndrome?
@@adamjamestattoos The human body cannot survive for long without hearing the soothing sounds of Rich's laughter
For me each upload gets better
Another "spitting out coffee" moment is the scene we didn't see where the Storm Troopers dispatched to Tattooine during A New Hope are like "Yeah we tracked the droids to this farm but they wouldn't tell us anything so we executed them, something Lars I think? Yeah, their name was Lars." Vader's like "wait, what was that name???"
Vader definitely gave the order for the troopers to kill Lars and Beru
@@kenji-san4681 Yes, he was still mad about the Little Orphany Anny joke they made.
I think it's implied in ESB that Boba Fett killed them. Vader seemed pretty chill about it, too
@@daniellipko710 they fought back like they did against reva and boba used the flame thrower on their ass
@@kenji-san4681 After that ridiculous scene in Kenobi, my headcanon is that Aunt Beru tried the same insane "we won't back down" shit she pulled with Reva on the stormtroopers that came around to question them and got lit up.
“Besides the first season of the Mandalorian, this is the first I’ve liked Star Wars in 35 years.”
Boy isn’t that a hard sentence to swallow.
the whole last segment of this episode was pure gold...
The best part of the animated Clone Wars series was that they did what the prequels failed to do, they made me like Anakin. That show had him be everything they failed to put in Clones and RotSith. He is heroic, friendly, kind in a lot of cases, and complex. You get shades of the darkness to come, but it's not a case of a petulant brat as it is in the films. It builds him out in a way that was so good and having that character fall to darkness makes it actually feel tragic.
The whole tone and aesthetic of the prequels/clone wars era is just so damn hideous and dull. It’s never felt like Star Wars.
Well said Paul. The prequels were a mess for many reasons, but I think your point is spot on that Anakin seemed like just an awful person from the beginning
@@paulmartin6419 Weirdly enough, I feel the exact opposite. The prequel era always felt to me like the most vibrant and interesting part of Star wars. Not the movies, but the extended media around the movies had some real gems; the 2003 cartoon, a few book series and comics. Those were the only times Star wars felt like a real, living universe to me.
@@atreides213 You are definitely right. The original trilogy universe really doesn't feel like a functional place. It just feels like basic set-dressing for a rebels vs fascists story. And it feels like there is absolutely nothing happening in an entire galaxy that doesn't revolve around our main characters.
The prequels feel like a galaxy that could actually exist and function and has things going on. The problem with the prequels wasn't the setting but the execution.
@@hippocratesnoah8642 completely agree, but I might be biased having grown up with the prequels
I like how Reva began to question if she was evil after nearly murdering an innocent child in a play to get revenge against someone else the child never met. Nevermind the innocent lady's hand she chopped off or the Jedi, who also was a youngling survivor of Order 66, she killed in cold blood. Wah wah.
I think you meant to say, "stunning and brave."
Reva: Anakin is evil for killing Jedi and FUCK Obi Wan for training him!
Also Reva: I'm going to get revenge on Anakin by killing a bunch of Jedi for him!
wait
wot
*sigh* If the acting and writing were top-notch, this may even work. But they're not. They're not even close.
@@duncanlutz3698 Reva was 100% on board to torture a child and the show still tries to play her off like she's just redeemed now.
_I_ like how I'm supposed to look at Reva as some sort of redeemed good guy now - because she _chose not to do something evil_
_for once_
She refrained from killing a boy she had no reason to kill anyway. So brave.
The whole lightsaber shit got completely out of hand with every additional movie. Even in video games like Jedi Outcast it was made abundantly clear, that although killing people with your lightsaber was the most fun it was still way more effective to dispatch your enemies with the help of a sniper-rifle and a bag full of thermal detonators!
Jedi Outcast for me is the peak of writing a Jedi as a character in an actually functioning world imo, in that it made complete sense to use guns most of the time (because they can hit things further away than you can reach), but the lightsaber still had genuine use in situations when blocking shots and closing distance was the more effective strategy (like tight corridors)
Kyle Katarn's lightsaber was only ever written as one of many tools available, and it's exactly that kind of pragmatic, practical consideration that's entirely absent in practically everything Star Wars outside of the original trilogy
That's a consequence of the game's difficulty & the limited degree of lightsaber gameplay they could develop while making lightsabers and levels where they're not feasible fun & interesting.
The video game limitations don't translate well into film limitations.
I still think the biggest fail in the evolving Star Wars canon was George shortening the time between the start of the Empire to the opening scene of A New Hope to something like 20 years.
agreed it just doesn't make much sense. Should have been like 50 years at least.
Absolutely. When I watched the OT I got the feeling the empire had been around for hundreds of years, and that the jedi had been a resistence force fighting against them that had finally been reduced to a handful of survivors.
@@vito I agree
Yea. The "sad devotion to an ancient religion" falls flat when in the lifetime of anyone over 30, they would not only know the history, but would have lived through it.
Well then how would Luke only be in his twenties in the OT if Vader is his father? Otherwise that would mean Vader sired him while he was already in his suit.