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I feel like the best answer/response comes at 4:11 and the concept of the unhealthy obsession with individual figures. Well said. Also this whole thing is great tbh
I think that's the most reasonable take of them all, idolising individuals isn't something I think is healthy either. Better to recognise the actions and events that are positive rather than just individuals (multiple reasons, some she already covered).
@@fetchstixRHD yep thats what ive been saying for ages its the same with Covid19 and "captain tom" the right quickly created a single white male ex army hero figure who we could all worship and thank ...heaven forbid we thank the COMMUNITY and everyone as a whole including all the female and BAME nurses and so on ...sounds like communism.
Big agree. It bugs me so much when someone says tearing down statues is 'erasing history' when thats literally the point of having statues in the first place, to erase the community and the people and glorify an individual
Honestly I find it crushing that many of you feel this way about individual figures. How is any of what you percieve about the nations statues unhealthy obsession. I'm finding it really difficult to reconsile all these comments. Just feels like in the decades to come, the statues will go, and it won't be enough and that symbols of stablity and home will be taken or changed and I'll be lost, without history or identity, and still I feel I'm unable to express how I feel.
The girl in the black headband was so right, why idolise people like that ?? Especially awful humans when we’re trying to build a much better more inclusive society that these men would have hated
Because they are a product of thier time, they didn't understand the concept of equality or humanity. But you have to recognize they advanced our society tremendously. And ofc you should idiolise people as you can learn from them and sculpt your personality of them.
@@tobyarnold4349 Pretty much every advancement comes at the expense of another, we don't use nuclear bombs because of what happened in japan, World war 2 literally drove so much technological advancement as you can see by how quickly everything changed between the 50's and 90's. It's just a sad reality that bad things usually lead to advancement and change. if those bad things never happened then we wouldn't know they're wrong
@@MasterIceyy yeah and all you have to do is learn from great people in the past and understand they are flawed because of the period they lived in. And recognise the flaws and say yes he did this but at the time he was living this was the norm.
Good job putting out a dividing topic on film without pointing fingers or diminishing differences of opinions. Makes for an interesting watch and raises questions which we all need to answer by ourselves.
Awww I see u Amelia tackling ignorance in ure own hilarious way perfect example of how activism doesn’t always look the same it doesn’t need to be forced or entirely serious . Such a great concept, love u girl ❤️
Lol. Winston wanted to go to war and he would of gone to sea on D day with the rest of the men if it wasn’t for the king telling him that if he went that he’d have to go with him that eventually stopped him from pushing the move any further
It wasn't fair to not hear the opinion of someone who entitles themselves as a minority that knows a lot about the statues, maybe even challenged on his knowledge, we heard already the opinions of some who say they know nothing about the statues.
Clearly The Darkest Hour made a HUGE Impression on that guy if he couldn't remember the part about how Churchill became PM in the first place to lead the resistance against the invading German forces...
2:12 - Winston Churchill was a war correspondent in the (2nd) Boer War and managed to escape a prison camp? Is that what you mean by 'heavily involved'??
I kinda wish she talked more with the old white dude who said he wanted to write a book on statues because we didn't get his side of the argument, but otherwise I agree with what everyone else said
Robert Clive was certainly responsible for the 1770 Bengal famine, but Churchill was not responsible for the 1943 Bengal famine. There was certainly more that could have been done to help, but it was ultimately poor intel, greedy landowners and the Japanese occupation of Burma that caused the famine.
@@quentinnewark2745 Old thread but same with Nelson, Nelson never advocated slavery, owned slaves or plantations. Even going as far as taking slaves on board, paying them and treating them as his own crew. Once they had completed their service they were free. I think it is important to actually have the facts out and not brief analyses.
Statues are about marking the past, they’re history. Whether the statue is of a person who was good or bad the statue still has meaning for different reasons and reminds us of aspects of the past.
4:18 - has this woman ever been anywhere in the country or the world? There are statues and memorials dedicated to everyone who fought in WW2 all over the UK, Europe and Asia.
everyone really spoke well and its so interesting to take in different perspectives. but the man at the end really tugged on my heart strings! we can dwell on the past to an extent but like he said, the statues are symbolic and perhaps aren't always there to glorify. though, I think so many more beautiful murals and art should be displayed around areas of importance. so much to debate. and how great I'd love to know what people think of my city having a life-size bronze pig statue in its centre, to celebrate having markets for hundreds of years ahaha ☺🙏
Would have liked to hear a little more from the guy who wants to write a book about the statues. Might have been an interesting counter point of view. Really enjoyed the video
It's not that black and white. Without Winston Churchill for example england would be speaking German right now, he was the endurance England needed. Without Robert Clive England would have suffered severe looses during the Carnatic Wars and lost influence to France, which would have unforseeable consequences in the European powerstruggle. People argue it was not "just" Winston Churchill fighting the war, but then blame him for an entire famine the hypocrisy is astounding. This issue is far more complex than it's made out to be.
Awesome video Amelia, wonderfully neutral, letting the stupidity shine through. I totally agree with the guy saying we should find them in museums, it’s history after all.
Very inspiring. I have actively commented on people’s post that lay flowers at the feet of colonial figures’ statues to inform and explain the bad things they did and I always get slandered, sweared at and accused of being an extreme leftist which I would not say is the case. It is really important to inform and question why these statues still stand.
Of course asking a bunch of people who know nothing about history would result in them saying things like “oh I don’t care about statues”. Those statues are this countries history, whether you like it or not. They are part of the reason why all the third world people wanna leave their own countries and come here so badly. Plus if you’re going to use the slavery line, literally every other group of people in human history practiced slavery, however it was white people specifically British who stopped it first. We even did a worldwide blockade of slave ships in the late 18th century and throughout the 19th century in an attempt to stop it. Plus slavery had been outlawed in all British empire colonies by 1833, however slavery in Africa continues to this very day.
Right one ... every country has its own history which to be kept known to younger generation.. Before asking the questions .. try to ask which country they belong... and why they are here?
@@socktier6334 and hitler made the autobahn better but I think you may find some objections if people started putting statues of him up in Germany. Your point is just totally illogical
Hey everyone! Thought I would share this on my YT after posting on my socials last year. Really excited to release the new set of episodes in this series on Dave TV's channel - Hope you stay tuned :) xx
New chicken shop date pleaseeeee
Benches next
This is awesome, well done!
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We can't wait!
Bruh when that little girl said "I'd rather not be that famous id rather keep myself to myself" that was everything 😊💯 can relate 👍👌😎
Well too bad for her, shes famous for her words now 😂
She was amazing, hopefully she stays that way for as long as possible.
Kid will go far.
sameee I love herrr
‘Paddington went jail and whatnot’ that killed me bro😭😭😭
Same.😭💀
There's something about her that makes her really cute I think if you know her personally then you have an amazing person ❤️
Its her personality
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Fr
@@mthoko_j7745 she's pretty anyway, she not ugly at all
She´s just hot
the duck tape on the microphone pole was honestly the star of this video
😂😂 😂
True
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@@droopslondon6270 LMFAO wtf
🦆 tape
i like this version of educating people & just pulling random people nearest to the statues, love it amelia! x
Thank you !!
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"Education" more like brain wash
@@AmeliaDimoldenberg you and your feet are so gorgeous
@UNIT: THOT Destroyer silence
I love how dry Amelia is, not in a bad way 😂
It’s a persona/act lol
@@denzino4905 ok, and?
@@gabrielagbese1945 and what looool you tell me
Yh she's probably completely different off camera we will just never know
@@romelgonzales2754 no u can know just watch an interview of her not chicken shop or her own yt channel
Absolutely loved this!! P.S that little girl at 3:50 had a really smart answer to the statue question
I was thinking the same thing. She seemed very switched on and confident for her age.
I feel like the best answer/response comes at 4:11 and the concept of the unhealthy obsession with individual figures. Well said. Also this whole thing is great tbh
I think that's the most reasonable take of them all, idolising individuals isn't something I think is healthy either. Better to recognise the actions and events that are positive rather than just individuals (multiple reasons, some she already covered).
@@fetchstixRHD yep thats what ive been saying for ages its the same with Covid19 and "captain tom" the right quickly created a single white male ex army hero figure who we could all worship and thank ...heaven forbid we thank the COMMUNITY and everyone as a whole including all the female and BAME nurses and so on ...sounds like communism.
Big agree. It bugs me so much when someone says tearing down statues is 'erasing history' when thats literally the point of having statues in the first place, to erase the community and the people and glorify an individual
Honestly I find it crushing that many of you feel this way about individual figures. How is any of what you percieve about the nations statues unhealthy obsession.
I'm finding it really difficult to reconsile all these comments.
Just feels like in the decades to come, the statues will go, and it won't be enough and that symbols of stablity and home will be taken or changed and I'll be lost, without history or identity, and still I feel I'm unable to express how I feel.
Absolutely agree, and her chicken recommendations are second to none.
4:12 That woman said something really really profound.
No it’s not😂 I don’t think there’s enlightened space for 75million statues for everyone who died
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"Profound" 😂😂😂
@@joelwells there aren't really shit tonnes, theres more statues of war "heroes" than the events that occurred
@ethanjames3495 yeah it’s called a painting…
The guy at 07:24 is Gav Murphy who used to be on the Prepare to Try gaming series and now is on a gaming channel called RKG
Omg!!!! Yes holy shit I was thinking it’s him!! 😂😂😂😂😂😂
same here lol, wonder if he mentioned it in a stream
A wild Gav sighting, that's crazy! I was just listening to regular features before I saw this 🤯
I know this didn't get as much views as chicken shop date but I personally would be interested in more content like this from you Amelia
I love Amelia's awkward energy
Same bro🤣
The girl in the black headband was so right, why idolise people like that ?? Especially awful humans when we’re trying to build a much better more inclusive society that these men would have hated
Because they are a product of thier time, they didn't understand the concept of equality or humanity. But you have to recognize they advanced our society tremendously. And ofc you should idiolise people as you can learn from them and sculpt your personality of them.
@@tobyarnold4349 Pretty much every advancement comes at the expense of another, we don't use nuclear bombs because of what happened in japan, World war 2 literally drove so much technological advancement as you can see by how quickly everything changed between the 50's and 90's. It's just a sad reality that bad things usually lead to advancement and change.
if those bad things never happened then we wouldn't know they're wrong
@@MasterIceyy yeah and all you have to do is learn from great people in the past and understand they are flawed because of the period they lived in. And recognise the flaws and say yes he did this but at the time he was living this was the norm.
Trust me, in 50 years EVERYONE is going to hate living in our 'inclusive' society. Imagine Bradford, but its everywhere. Its going to be a hell hole.
@Kevin S yeah and it’s not celebrated now so we should take them down
1. How cute is the little girl!?
2. I want those 🦒 earrings
3. The lady in the black velvet headband was superbly well educated.
4. Great vid Amelia 👌
Good job putting out a dividing topic on film without pointing fingers or diminishing differences of opinions. Makes for an interesting watch and raises questions which we all need to answer by ourselves.
that last guy was spittin
*Statue exists*
Amelia : I'm about to destroy this man's whole reputation
do you mean Amelia?
Awww I see u Amelia tackling ignorance in ure own hilarious way perfect example of how activism doesn’t always look the same it doesn’t need to be forced or entirely serious . Such a great concept, love u girl ❤️
“…he was sitting at home, getting drunk.” Too bloody right
Lol. Winston wanted to go to war and he would of gone to sea on D day with the rest of the men if it wasn’t for the king telling him that if he went that he’d have to go with him that eventually stopped him from pushing the move any further
You lot are slow that think like this
@@Claireradusha99 He might not have been a ‘good man’ but he was certainly the man we needed at the time.
@@Claireradusha99 and he’s dead. How can it be possible to punish him now? lol
@@aidbfrjdbdhrvchxbdjd6362 by removing his statue(s) 😊
I’ve binged watched all her video, how come she’s not more famous! This girl is awesome! My favorite new person!!!
a mic taped on to a pole LOL,
Would have been cool to hear more from the guy who actually knew about statues
Agreed, would have liked to hear his opinions (to be fair, I would have liked to hear more from all really).
I thought so too!
It wasn't fair to not hear the opinion of someone who entitles themselves as a minority that knows a lot about the statues, maybe even challenged on his knowledge, we heard already the opinions of some who say they know nothing about the statues.
This is such an important video with a lot of educational gain, I hope this gets just as popular as your other videos because this is honestly great
Only really one view point, wasn't really a debate.
Seals clapping for one opinion
"Educational"
@Mr S yeah some aspects of the video are educational
No you gain nothing from these videos apart from anti west propaganda
The “SAFE THE HISTORY” sticker at 6:12 is the most gammon thing I’ve seen😂
Love the Brother that said Humanity is more important...
Some of these statues move their faces more than Amelia
Great video, so sad it gets less views than the dates!
wow great statue knowledge Gav
Was that Gav Murphy from RKG being interviewed at 0:55?!
Please come here in US South and do this!
Yesss you posted!!!!
This video deserves so much more views!!!
Clearly The Darkest Hour made a HUGE Impression on that guy if he couldn't remember the part about how Churchill became PM in the first place to lead the resistance against the invading German forces...
Best statement was the little girl, 'rather keep myself to myself' Smashed it...
This is so good Amelia. Would love to see more content like this. 👍
Just read the description 😅 excited for the series!
I like how the last person answered ☺
The guy was so honest "I wont listen more to it but it will be more meaningful"😂
2:12 - Winston Churchill was a war correspondent in the (2nd) Boer War and managed to escape a prison camp? Is that what you mean by 'heavily involved'??
I love Amelia’s personality 💀 and the mic ofc
“That one in New York” lmao
I kinda wish she talked more with the old white dude who said he wanted to write a book on statues because we didn't get his side of the argument, but otherwise I agree with what everyone else said
You agree that London should have a statue of GF and not Winston Churchill? Why?
Absolutely loving this content. What a great piece.
Robert Clive was certainly responsible for the 1770 Bengal famine, but Churchill was not responsible for the 1943 Bengal famine. There was certainly more that could have been done to help, but it was ultimately poor intel, greedy landowners and the Japanese occupation of Burma that caused the famine.
Yes, the caption saying Churchill “created” the famine is purest ignorance, a slur.
@@quentinnewark2745 Old thread but same with Nelson, Nelson never advocated slavery, owned slaves or plantations. Even going as far as taking slaves on board, paying them and treating them as his own crew. Once they had completed their service they were free. I think it is important to actually have the facts out and not brief analyses.
This is like a more serious version of Do We Need 'Em, and I like it.
Statues are about marking the past, they’re history. Whether the statue is of a person who was good or bad the statue still has meaning for different reasons and reminds us of aspects of the past.
I ADORED this!! Amazing job x
Big up Amelia! This was an amazing thing for her to do! I came into this video with vibes and left educated!😀
In Toronto we just beheaded the Ryerson stature yesterday ❤️❤️
Idk why this is funny lmaoo
Cringe losers
@@andrewmarling do you know who ryerson is and are you aware of Canadian news at the moment?
@@mimi-gs7cw Please enlighten me,what happened? I'd love to know 🤔
@@halimatalib04 google "residential schools kamloops" and find out
Does Amelia have a background in sound..? She really knows how to mic the people she is interviewing. She is Amazing.
This was so such a good video!! Way to go!!
“Heavily involved in the Boer war”
Was a journalist.
Really good series . Congratulations
This women is a pure comedic genius
Loving your tailored nandos workplace shirt!
love how they didnt give the guy at 7:00 enough screen time
Only interested in one side of the story
@@joeroberts7298 rightly so,murders don't deserve statues.
@@halimatalib04 churchill does
@@halimatalib04 literally every leader can be considered a murderer, in every single country.
@@halimatalib04 what about people who rob pregnant women??
“He was sitting at home getting drunk”
True true
Brilliant video, highlights how little we actually know about the people who have statues.
"We"
Love this. You're amazing 👏
Great video Amelia 👏🏼
The bobby Davro statue in Beijing is very moving
Amelia, we need more 🙌🏼
Amazing video, Amelia.
Underrated series!
I like this a lot. Hope you can continue to take on more serious topics with your awkward charm.
hahahahah
4:18 - has this woman ever been anywhere in the country or the world? There are statues and memorials dedicated to everyone who fought in WW2 all over the UK, Europe and Asia.
Yep haha
0:50 Hello Gavin! 👋
I just found this channel and I already love it 😆
Very good. I like you Amelia.
Cheers from France 🇫🇷
Very well thought out content! Great question and good to hear the thoughts of public 👍
🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽
mans is so sizzled he misses the handle bar 🤣 7:44
great video Amelia!!
everyone really spoke well and its so interesting to take in different perspectives. but the man at the end really tugged on my heart strings! we can dwell on the past to an extent but like he said, the statues are symbolic and perhaps aren't always there to glorify. though, I think so many more beautiful murals and art should be displayed around areas of importance. so much to debate. and how great I'd love to know what people think of my city having a life-size bronze pig statue in its centre, to celebrate having markets for hundreds of years ahaha ☺🙏
I once saw you in shoreditch station with Adidas sliders which were heels .... this video makes me rate you more than when I saw you that day
There's streets in Bengal still named after Robert Clive.
this is brilliant, Amelia, thank you!
Would have liked to hear a little more from the guy who wants to write a book about the statues. Might have been an interesting counter point of view. Really enjoyed the video
Is that Gav from RKG at 7:20!? Hey Gav!
Gav from RKG in the thumbnail got me.
“That one in New York”
Ya same..
It's not that black and white. Without Winston Churchill for example england would be speaking German right now, he was the endurance England needed. Without Robert Clive England would have suffered severe looses during the Carnatic Wars and lost influence to France, which would have unforseeable consequences in the European powerstruggle. People argue it was not "just" Winston Churchill fighting the war, but then blame him for an entire famine the hypocrisy is astounding. This issue is far more complex than it's made out to be.
Yeah this little tart isn't as smart as she thinks she is. Drives me crazy this reductionist thinking
We can celebrate what a person has done without celebrating the person themselves.
What does Amelia say on the topic at hand???
The video isn't about the statues
Can we just talk about what the little girl said?
6:35 I legit thought Olivia Colman was inexplicably dubbing this woman
0:50 Gav!
How's he ended up in this 😂
Micheal
I know!!! Omg I recognised his voice 😂😂
Awesome video Amelia, wonderfully neutral, letting the stupidity shine through. I totally agree with the guy saying we should find them in museums, it’s history after all.
Very inspiring. I have actively commented on people’s post that lay flowers at the feet of colonial figures’ statues to inform and explain the bad things they did and I always get slandered, sweared at and accused of being an extreme leftist which I would not say is the case. It is really important to inform and question why these statues still stand.
Of course asking a bunch of people who know nothing about history would result in them saying things like “oh I don’t care about statues”. Those statues are this countries history, whether you like it or not. They are part of the reason why all the third world people wanna leave their own countries and come here so badly. Plus if you’re going to use the slavery line, literally every other group of people in human history practiced slavery, however it was white people specifically British who stopped it first. We even did a worldwide blockade of slave ships in the late 18th century and throughout the 19th century in an attempt to stop it. Plus slavery had been outlawed in all British empire colonies by 1833, however slavery in Africa continues to this very day.
You really think people emigrate to this country becuase of the likes of edward colston.
Right one ... every country has its own history which to be kept known to younger generation.. Before asking the questions .. try to ask which country they belong... and why they are here?
@@HarryMoho no the emigrate here because this country is good in all metrics, thanks to people like colston whether u like it or not.
@@socktier6334 and hitler made the autobahn better but I think you may find some objections if people started putting statues of him up in Germany. Your point is just totally illogical
@@socktier6334 also this country is definitely not good in all metrics :)
I just came for Amelia! I don't care about statues.
I think that's exactly why she made this video😂
i really like how creative Amelia is
Surprisingly insightful 👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿
I had no idea there were so many statues of ppl like these still standing and most definitely cleaned and maintained for this long
In the past Literally everyone was evil. So all old statues are of evil people.
@@nomoresunforever3695 yeah no shit
@@embrace7052 you will be evil for future people.
@@nomoresunforever3695 😐
Thank you for making this video ! Thank you so much
0:52 big up Gav from RKG solid RUclips channel
There’s one of Martin Luther King in Las Vegas in the states that I love 💗
Sneako vibes in this video !! pls more content like this.
That was really good, Ameila
I miss "The mystery girl" on vice uk.
4:11 and 5:05 are sooooo important!!!!