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Full Analysis of the Halo CE Beta (1749): Main Menu and General Gameplay [Re-upload]
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- Опубликовано: 12 авг 2024
- This video is a re-upload that fixes the aspect ratio of the entire video. The second part, which will release shortly after this goes up, will use the same aspect ratio.
Salutations, and welcome to another installment of the Full Analysis of the Halo Beta series. For this installment, we'll be looking at a Halo Combat Evolved build that recently got leaked. This is Halo CE build 1749, a build dating back to approximately August 15th, 2001, exactly three months away from Halo 1's release date, November 15h, 2001. Taking these dates
into account, it's surprising how early in development this build feels in terms of visuals and gameplay design choices, which I'll cover extensively throughout this video. Up until this installment of the Halo Beta Analysis series, the builds I've covered only offered small fractions of the game's content, usually consisting of a handful of multiplayer levels. This is not the case for 1749. It contains the entire campaign as well as the multiplayer content, including all of the maps and gametypes that come with them. I've got a lot of work ahead of me to cover the major differences between this build and the final game, and just so we're clear, I'll be using the original xbox version of the final build of Halo 1 as the main counterpart to this
newly-released beta, unless there's something I have to reference in the Gearbox PC port, which there are a couple things here and there.
This part will cover the UI and general gameplay aspects!
00:00 Intro
01:59 The Main Menu
13:21 The General Gameplay
15:48 The Weapons
24:11 The Vehicles
30:08 The Equipment/Powerups
30:56 The Characters
35:40 Outro
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This video is a re-upload that fixes the aspect ratio of the entire video. The second part, which will release shortly after this goes up, will use the same aspect ratio.
aight
What was wrong with the ratio
@@lecone2220 it was streched to fill the 16:9 ratio. It looked weird, but it was ok. Now it just looks how it is without being streched
@@lecone2220 it was stretched and ugly :(
Fair enough
The 1749 build? Really crazy that they were developing this game for 252 years.
Nice comment a shame u stole it
@@fangee704 was it stolen? I didn’t read the comments.
@@fangee704 Nice comment, a shame you possess illiterate grammar.
Yep, just 1 year after the war of jenkin's ear... probably influenced some stuff.
@@SolidStateSimulations I get where u are coming from but using grammar as a leeway to have a stand in an argument is weak imo
Before the Declaration of Independence, there was the HALO CE beta
Between this and final, they introduced a glitch without which Red vs Blue might never have been a thing.
Crazy. Just crazy.
What was this glitch
@@VOlDTALES 15:55
@@mrperson9655 thanks little guy
Damn the founding fathers were playing Halo
JENKINS! WHY ARE YOU NOT IN GAME BRING BACK THE WAFFLES!
Just commenting again for the analytics. Can't wait for part 2
Replying for the same reason. Great work!
5:10 Reference from the Art of Halo book, in accordance with the description for the Keyes level - apparently there was a version where Chief used the flamethrower to burn out the skull of Keyes rather than removing just the implant but they cut it as it was too gruesome.
I'm just imagining it in my head how it would look. How they would make it. Imagining myself modding it in. With the low poly graphics, it would look comical today. Back then, for them, it gruesome and realistic.
It's funny to me because Treyarch had the same problem in Black Ops 1. They were bragging about having to cut out certain animations because they were too gruesome and graphic.
It's ironic because what they would have done (shown in dev discussions later) is nothing compared to the type of animations and particles they're implementing nowadays that are practically photo-realistic and accepted culturally without question. Even demanded by gamers, including myself.
The grunt voices in this demo literally make it sound like you're burning children alive...
23:08 yeah
@@benb9151 holy fuck
That really made me feel mercy for grunts and I started crying
POV you are Anakin Skywalker
Lmao it does
That's awesome that this build still has the script error for Guilty Spark. There was a video elsewhere recently that showed some of the original devs reacting to a speedrun, and Marty O'Donnel actually mentioned how he had to fix the line by going into an audio editor and replacing the last number with a clip of the voice actor saying, "three" from a different take.
The 79 on the pelican is likely it’s length in whatever unit of measurement is standard in halo universe. For example, the first digits on ships in the us coast guard are the length of the vessel.
After doing a quick research, the Halo 3 pelican has 77 in its title and has a 77 foot wingspan. Maybe 79 was the original idea?
Awesome. Thanks for reuploading! If I remember correctly, the original concept for the mission Keyes was that you were meant to carry his skull out of the ship. This was scrapped in final but was was then repurposed for the Oddball game type (if you look at the skull you can see the neural implants if I remember correctly).
I would love to play that mission
Mental
“They had us at the first half not gonna lie.”
Hello fellow halo and hazbin hotel fan
@@debbiewutz5553 Hazbin hotel is cringe
As long as I enjoy it that's all that matters to me with it and if you don't enjoy it then that's fine you don't have to enjoy it
Plus you're not going to talk about @Blorox Cleech having a Angel Dust profile picture but you're gonna talk about me being cringe because I like the show that's being a hypocrite if you ask me
@@debbiewutz5553 Hey, listen we both know this isn’t going to go anywhere, just stop harassing him, let him have his opinion and move on.
The hud for the flamethrower in the beta is now used in mcc when using the flamethrower with the classic hud on, pretty cool that it is that.
This is such a well done video, I love it. No other video has gone so in-depth on the early versions of Halo CE.
*slowly re-likes the video, and then watches it again cause I forgot most of it.*
You got my hopes up for the second part. It’s been FIFTEEN MINUTES and I’m twitching in anticipation
we're nearly there, my friend :')
Still nothing. I’m gonna explode.
@@lordmartinofleithandcuddy6541 it's here bb
I think the flamer's running around in circles animations were intended to have the victim give off flame particles, so they would be running around burning alive
Pretty sure one of the dev team members mentioned that keyes originally was going to involve chief cutting keys head out with the flame thrower which explains the description. Check the developers react to halo ce speedrun
They reused the burned Keyes' skull for the Oddball. They just removed a lot of gruesome detail from the textures. You can see remnants of the original idea, as the neural implants can still be seen on the skull. I'm surprised the original texture hasn't popped up anywhere.
@@KnoxCarbon it is a shock it hasn't actually..... although it may be the beta roms haven't been mined yet too
Didn't they cut that idea because the flamethrower was cut?
But the flamethrower is still present in this build. What gives?
@Thomas.c4647 pretty sure part of it was the gore detail. I know the files were fully intact on the xbox for the flamethrower and it could be modded into the game.
It’s crazy how far from release this beta looks yet how close it is too, they really were in uncharted territory that close to release, but we are all so lucky they struck gold
I’m glad the grunts didn’t end up sounding like chipmunks like they do here
actual engaging drinking game: do a shot every time Vengeful says "miraculously"
Psh, that’s being too safe. How about “in retail” and/or “in the final game”?
The Vengeful 'Vadam Weeeehaw! Fun night!
I always wondered why the healthpack was different in the booklet when I was young, now I know thanks.
"uploaded 50 seconds ago"
pretty pog
YAY THE SECOND PART IS FINALLY COMING!!!!!
*Part 2, we've been expecting you.....*
24:08 when you piss after drinking a gallon of hot sauce
Funny.
@@ColossalKilla thank you
Easy difficulty was only made for Marty, lets be honest here xD
It's cool how we are getting the original Damnation, but more stylized to Halo Reach's version of artstyle instead of the original boxy buildings in the Original design. Still though. So much pre release content is going to drop and it's going to be like christmas for modders and the community alike.
god I love this channel I watch every video you make and I love these beta videos so well made and half an hour long is great
Though it stayed in Gold Master I find the description for Assault on the Control room to be a contradiction in terms I wonder if it seriously was going to be a wave defence mission.
Very late to this, so regarding the different Grunt sounds, I realise that these are present in various voice packs in MCC's CE. All you need to do is pick a different voice pack (French, for example), and the death/pain sounds are from the Beta.
All the grenades exploding at 18:41 was hilarious lol. Surprised that didn't become a skull or something.
Love your vids bro. Please keep them coming.
30:24
Noticed another one; the Rocket Launcher appears to be using its beta design here (the rocket tubes themselves) rather than the build design (the case).
very interesting content and I still enjoy you're videos from years ago keep it up.
I watched the original video three times and didn’t notice it was stretched...
I wonder if the "bring the head of captain keyes" was the birth of the skulls element in the games? Like, maybe his neural implants were screwed into his skull, and Chief had to carry it much like we do in the multiplayer games
Really cool to see this old build!
I agree😎
bro i love these type of videos. cool to see how the game changed over time
23:08 That Grunt getting killed by the flamethrower made me have mercy for him. I mean, look how he is screaming, it feels so bad I started crying and now am terrified
Grunts were known to eat men alive during the human covenant war. I wouldn't feel too bad for the little guy.
Also, here's something else- those are methane thanks on their backs. So if you torched one with a flamethrower it would likely explode.
Honestly I felt the same
Halo changed so much. But it is just so amazing seeing it all
interesting name for a Beta Build. glad you reuploaded this one
I need more of this!! I love finding out about beta builds of Halo 1 and 2!
Great analysis of everything
"its the build of 3 months before halo ce comes out" "its surprising how early in dev this game feels" its almost like halo 1 had a short dev cycle
While the project had been in the works for years as an RTS and later a 3rd person shooter, after the Microsoft buyout they were given only 10 months from the higher-ups to rework their engine to function on the Xbox and make the game essentially from scratch. Microsoft wanted a launch title to put them on the gaming map, Bungie was in financial turmoil and didn't want to go bankrupt, and the final product of that was Halo CE. One of the most influential and popular shooters of all time was banged together in literally less than a year. The game industry is fucking brutal.
We need to make a soundboard for their english diologue
Nice inclusion of the Titanfall 2 trailer, thats my favorite game of all time! Great video, love Halo CE and wish more of this beta stuff made it to release
Thank you, Vadam. Doing gods work.
So excited for part two! Sorry about losing your views bro.
This was a great video man. I missed it I guess 😮
A year later but here's some interesting trivia about the hunters. As we can see from the Beta hunters bleed green as opposed to orange in the final game. In the final game if you hit a Hunter's armour with a Warthog machine gun the Hunter will bleed green
Ooo. I wonder if the beta map files can be ripped. I want to see how they did their blockouts for some of the multiplayer maps.
Welp disregard that, after hearing you saying the images don't reflect the map file itself. :(
This is such a great video.
Love it. Excellent vid
So Beaver Creek in Halo 2 was named after the early name for Battle Creek huh
7:51 that skull is based on the Paracas elongated skulls (not skull binding, only 2 sutures and base of spine location is towards the back as opposed to the middle)
Bro it is an elite skull its is made up it's the elites head with bullet wound
@@chikntaco141 of course but looking at any actual model of elites you'd notice they don't actually have an elongated skull at all. It's tiny in every one of the game's. Bungie love to insert all sorts of esoteric references in their games. ONI literally is an Eye of Horus. Destiny is overflowing with Masonic imagery and references. Etc.
@@abointedtoyblingofmats 🤯🤯🤯 never would have looked at it like that
Nice Video Dude!
Been waiting for this upload. Great! Love it.
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2:05 that music is so relaxing to me
I hope we get that Gamestock 2001 build one day
What a pleasant surprise!
wow these were the graphics back in 1749??? HOLYYYY
the '79' on the Pelican could be a reference to Alien, which came out in 19(79), and the influence needs no intro lol
it also could jsut be a random number. still a beta build
"I pretty sure most halo fans find Normal mode a cake walk" Do I suck that badly?
I love the marine variants in this build it really fits that resistance feel of halo 1.
I thought this was new mid vid I realized it was re upload
This is surprisingly similar to the final game despite the major differences. Pretty cool
This is a very thorough analysis. Great stuff.
We need a Halo CE Uncut! ❤️
I imagine the hull number "79" on the Pelican was just a generic placeholder until Echo-419 and Victor-933 liveries were made (if I'm not mistaken, those are the only two in retail)
342 guilty spark is very interesting, Marty o'Donnell mentioned this in the IGN halo ce dev commentary of the wr speedrun.
You mention at around 15:00 about the press ‘X’ instead of hold ‘X’ for weapon pickups, but I swear that when I use to play Xbox I could just tap ‘X’ and never had to hold it. When I played MCC on PC, I was shocked to see I had to hold down ‘E’…
Agreed, I've heard a fair number of former pros and big Halo content RUclipsrs like LNG mention it when comparing the original and MCC port. If he's comparing it to retail in this one, maybe it was an option in the settings you could turn on and off, with hold being the default?
The grey on the Stealth Elites looks so much nicer then the light blue
23:23 thats pretty brutal to be honest.
Really?
31:13
Good fucking god, they're shadows... I've been playing Halo since it released and always wondered why the CE helmet had eyes lol.
I think the developer commentary or wherever mentioned that the Chief was going to rip Keyes' skull from his body, but that was scrapped for odd ball.
Love to see betas and unreleased versions of games but the one that takes the cake for most mysterious and amazing is Resident Evil 1.5 i think. Nobody has ever cared about an unreleased game that much.
342 Guilty Spark? I thought the point of the number 343 was that it's a power of 7, and 7 is means to, like, Bungie's lucky number or something?
The 342 line from what I remember was either a script typo or a freudian slip on the actor’s part. It was always meant to be 343.
Yea ign actually has the devs of halo including Marty watch a speed run of the game and Marty said that it was supposed to be 343 but because of this slip up he took a 3 from a previous take and stitches it after the 3 and 4
@@halo129830 Yeah, I found it since making this comment. Thanks :)
The nostalgia is unreal
They should have kept the higher FOV and left the Wraith as a drivable vehicle and left the flamethrower in the campaign.
Omg am I the only one finding these grunt voices in the beta adorable? They are so adorable I'm gonna die.
22:06 that's interesting, I'm pretty sure the joyride Halo CE flame thrower has the same screen as this cut flamethrower (a different screen compared to the PC version). So that figure must have been slated for production before the flamethrower was cut from the final game?
H.E.C.U is in this bulid and in the final game against Master Chief in Halo Combat Evolved
240 rounds for the pistol would've been CRAZY
I think you may have over corrected just a touch too much. When I turn my screen horizontally the reticles are vertical ovals when they should be perfect circles. Eh, at least it’s way closer ;)
13:15 David Candland probably came back from vacation.
6:44
With the exception of Alien: Resurrection one year prior. As long as you have the Dualshock controller for the ps1.
And here I thought this was a new video
Is there a save file with all the levels unlocked you could upload? I can't get by anything with the default files and no saves have been uploaded online I could find.
For the Ghost, you forgot to mention you can run over NPCs more easily in the beta. In the final game, you can only do this if the NPC is on a slanted surface.
ce elite shoulders may or may have not awoken something in me
I’m new to playing beta versions of Halo, how can I set this up and play it? I happen to already have a modded original Xbox I purchased by accident, but I have yet to try playing any pre-release builds.
24:40 did they use a gosh dang leaf blower motor as the placeholder sounds? sure sounds like it
The canopy looks the same at CE Gearbox port.
23:14 Please correct me if I'm wrong cuz I'm going crazy lol
That grunt death scream is not present in the final game... _in the original language._
I've been playing CE in spanish and I could swear I've heard that scream a couple of times. I have yet to make a direct comparison though
Could you make a video about halo 5's beta too please.
What were you playing this on? PC Emulator or modded xbox?
If the latter, what kind of mod were you using? Could you provide more detail on that?
Man I love halo
Looks like the 1749 visor for chief is a bit bigger too
Oh God, not the blur bars.
Also pls do a guide on modding MCC/Reach, I wanna make a rebalance mod similar to your own at some point.
RejectedShotgun has tutorials for Reach MCC PC
@@9k111 His are extremely basic though and don't cover most things.