Full Analysis of the Halo 2 Private Alpha

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  • Опубликовано: 31 май 2018
  • Salutations! Welcome to our newest installment to the Halo betas series, where we'll once again be covering an Alpha build rather than a Beta.
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    Max Hoberman interview: waypoint.vice.com/en_us/artic...
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    Martin O'Donnell and Michael Salvatori
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Комментарии • 287

  • @TheVengefulVadam
    @TheVengefulVadam  6 лет назад +137

    If you want to download the build and play it yourself, check the description. Download link is there.

    • @fugalmosquito0851
      @fugalmosquito0851 6 лет назад +4

      Is there a video on how to install it?

    • @ayylmao4142
      @ayylmao4142 5 лет назад +1

      Is it an Xbox rom?

    • @TheUltimoScorp
      @TheUltimoScorp 4 года назад +3

      the link no longer works, just in case you weren't aware

    • @Ali--554
      @Ali--554 4 года назад

      @@TheUltimoScorp he updated to the link I sent

    • @ShadySummerZ
      @ShadySummerZ 4 года назад

      @@ayylmao4142 i

  • @quickscopeoneeighty9158
    @quickscopeoneeighty9158 6 лет назад +193

    Its satisfying hearing "magazine" instead of "clip."

    • @quickscopeoneeighty9158
      @quickscopeoneeighty9158 6 лет назад +15

      Then again, when he mentions the shot for the Shotgun as "slugs," that's incorrect. I'm pretty sure it's some type of buck shot. 00B judging by the pellet count and size.

    • @DaDARKPass
      @DaDARKPass 4 года назад +6

      @@quickscopeoneeighty9158 I just call them shells... also originally they looked more like cards so...

    • @longhog8683
      @longhog8683 2 года назад

      Clipazines

  • @Hasuku
    @Hasuku 6 лет назад +242

    Pretty cool to see how close it was to CE originally.

    • @wallacejenkins4747
      @wallacejenkins4747 6 лет назад +20

      Hasuku ikr just imagine if bungie wasn't restricted to time restraints

    • @williamwest9204
      @williamwest9204 4 года назад +9

      Long as autos didn't suck and magnum didn't win everything for free it woulda been good

    • @lfesky
      @lfesky 2 года назад

      @@williamwest9204 problem is not the magnum which was perfect it was spawning with it every time and amount count

    • @KnoxCarbon
      @KnoxCarbon 2 года назад +3

      Halo 2 uses a modified CE engine, just with better lighting and Havok physics implementation.

    • @lfesky
      @lfesky 2 года назад

      @@KnoxCarbon which was sick but it could have been better had they sticked with the halo 2 stencil engine this alpha looked intense

  • @KibblezanBitz
    @KibblezanBitz 5 лет назад +391

    The pistol doesn't do any damage. So in other words, it's just like the final game's version of the pistol?

    • @ugiustuskeiserus8066
      @ugiustuskeiserus8066 5 лет назад +48

      It may suck, but I fucking love duel wielding them, they just feel so great to use

    • @inactivechannel7514
      @inactivechannel7514 5 лет назад +3

      Haha

    • @specter_of_thestars2500
      @specter_of_thestars2500 4 года назад +11

      Before the patches the pistol could kill in 9 shots dual wielded. Does this help defend the pistol in 2? No but it was still alright for a few months somewhat.

    • @SockEater4293
      @SockEater4293 4 года назад +1

      lolololololololololololololololololololol.

    • @limpetarch98k
      @limpetarch98k 4 года назад +2

      You are a man of culture, Cole.
      During my childhood (now I became adult), I always assumed franchise wide, it was the absolute worst gun of Halo. Shame I never had any other Halo games than Halo 2.

  • @forteprotze
    @forteprotze 6 лет назад +110

    it's a pretty important thing to acknowledge any missteps you may have taken and genuinely try to do better in the future. good on you for admitting to your mistakes and hearing others out, and im also sorry to hear that you've been going through a rough patch in life currently
    thanks for the great content, this video is super interesting and you put a lot of effort into analyzing it all, good work as always dude, and take care of yourself

  • @thepie193
    @thepie193 6 лет назад +38

    I love the "running" animation so much

  • @4realm8rusirius
    @4realm8rusirius 6 лет назад +70

    40:07 the if you enter the passenger seat weaponless you go into a t pose is actually present in the retail version but Ive only seen done with marines

    • @halosnova1604
      @halosnova1604 5 лет назад +2

      On halo reach if you download a no weapons game type or a dayz gametype that spawns with no weapons it will t pose when in the vehicle.

  • @StuffyJunk
    @StuffyJunk 6 лет назад +102

    Now we just need someone to leak a build of Halo 2 with the Stencil engine on it.

    • @SebReaperGaming
      @SebReaperGaming 6 лет назад +29

      It's unlikely to happen because I don't think anyone but the devs have put their hands on it, it'd be a miracle for them to leak it
      but still, what would work on that engine? The E3 demo?

    • @StuffyJunk
      @StuffyJunk 6 лет назад +27

      XUZUL I'd hope so. Or at the very least, maybe some kind of content that we've never seen before. What's interesting about the engine is that there's an old screenshot of Bloodgulch rendered in the engine on Bungie.net halo.bungie.net/news/content.aspx?cid=25650

    • @christopherwalkinalloverya5824
      @christopherwalkinalloverya5824 5 лет назад +4

      Dude that would be orgasmic just to play the '03 E3 demo! BTW, has anyone here played the OG Xbox version of Kameo?

    • @williamwest9204
      @williamwest9204 4 года назад +3

      @@christopherwalkinalloverya5824 look it up. Its out there being played

    • @brycesmith7501
      @brycesmith7501 3 года назад +6

      About 2-3 weeks before halo 2 originally released in the US my local internet cafe at the time had a French version of I'm not sure was a full or alpha/beta version of halo 2 for everyone to play/lan with. I haven't had any luck finding any information of this build of Halo 2 anywhere online, can anyone shed any light on what version that possibly was?

  • @generalshepherd2209
    @generalshepherd2209 6 лет назад +66

    I love this analysis. You really have poured your soul into analyzing the alpha. This overlook is really detailed. Hope to see more gameplay footage and that you get through your rough times.

  • @ConeLordDaytona
    @ConeLordDaytona 6 лет назад +129

    To be honest, I thought that "FuckGamecheat" player was actually Gamecheato himself...
    *BOI, WAS I WRONG*

    • @abunny6925
      @abunny6925 6 лет назад

      cheats are for losers

    • @ConeLordDaytona
      @ConeLordDaytona 6 лет назад +10

      What does that have to do with my comment?

    • @TurboSonic
      @TurboSonic 6 лет назад

      I understood that reference

    • @ConeLordDaytona
      @ConeLordDaytona 6 лет назад +1

      Forgive me for being clueless, but what reference are you talking about?

    • @TurboSonic
      @TurboSonic 6 лет назад

      ruclips.net/video/FcNTEyEqxH0/видео.html

  • @9000Dogs
    @9000Dogs 6 лет назад +37

    A warzone Halo 2 style would have been fantastic. Though I imagine it wouldn’t run well considering it’s the OG Xbox.

  • @Ceblet
    @Ceblet 6 лет назад +144

    An hour long Vengeful Vid?
    █▀█ █▄█ ▀█▀

  • @HYDRAdude
    @HYDRAdude 6 лет назад +37

    You reminded me how unnecessarily big waterworks was. The map feels like it was intended for a larger player cap than the 16 that the release version of the game has. I bet it could have been a cool map with something more like 24 players on it.

  • @quietnumber2317
    @quietnumber2317 6 лет назад +23

    Now we wait for the alpha campaign content. It's gonna be awhile...

  • @musicheadjesse
    @musicheadjesse 2 года назад +5

    my dad was one of the bungie employees that got selected to play this build back in the day :)

  • @Mateoski97
    @Mateoski97 6 лет назад +16

    Wow, the alpha actually had health.

  • @TheJayson8899
    @TheJayson8899 5 лет назад +61

    All I want is to see the early betas and alphas of the campaigns

  • @Artoofeva
    @Artoofeva 5 лет назад +1

    This was an awesome video! I love looks at these kinds of builds. It’s amazing how much stuff gets changed or cut in game development.

  • @Ricemang7
    @Ricemang7 6 лет назад +5

    Thanks for your hard work and great vid. Super interesting to see how halo 2 evolved over its short dev time.

  • @TeamRespawn
    @TeamRespawn 6 лет назад +8

    Damn these are always so good. Great works as always.

  • @toxzin156
    @toxzin156 6 лет назад +15

    Awesome video! Glad to see you noticed all of these changes. I missed a lot of them while playing.

  • @bruisedbug
    @bruisedbug 5 лет назад

    This deserves way more views you put a lot of effort into your videos, great work man

  • @brmble
    @brmble 6 лет назад

    So glad I found this video. Very interesting. Nice work Vadam! 😊

  • @egg7lvl50
    @egg7lvl50 6 лет назад

    I love your vids about halo man. You really put alot of effort and information in these. Like even the things you mention!!!

  • @digtalfear1177
    @digtalfear1177 6 лет назад

    Awesome in depth look at the alpha! Keep up the great work!

  • @killmachine5476
    @killmachine5476 6 лет назад

    Great video pal. These were some of the most fun games of Halo i played with people. It was great!

  • @ayylmaotv
    @ayylmaotv 6 лет назад +23

    halo 2 is so good

    • @ayylmaotv
      @ayylmaotv 6 лет назад

      guy with ayylien gamertag is lit

    • @TheMuslimMan1337
      @TheMuslimMan1337 6 лет назад

      Ayy Lmao Ayy shouldn't you be at Generalheed's comment section?🤔

    • @ayylmaotv
      @ayylmaotv 6 лет назад

      i live in every halo comment section but heed is my man

    • @ayylmaotv
      @ayylmaotv 6 лет назад

      ayyyy lmaooo

  • @Cryosphered
    @Cryosphered 6 лет назад

    I feel like the unused campaign images hidden in the alpha would've made a neat addition to this video, but overall you did a great job Vadam. Nice to have you uploading again!

  • @darkblades1201
    @darkblades1201 6 лет назад +1

    This was a really cool look back on the development of Halo 2!

  • @deafbyhiphop
    @deafbyhiphop 6 лет назад

    This is a great video. Huge props man for the hard work

  • @blondbassist
    @blondbassist 6 лет назад +2

    This was a great analysis, Good job Vadam.
    It looks to me that given the state this alpha was in Bungie basically made Halo 2 in just over a year which give credence to them describing Halo 2 as having the 'mother of all crunches'. It's a shame we never got to see a halo game with that fancy stencil lighting system.

  • @mikehunt4607
    @mikehunt4607 7 месяцев назад

    Awesome videos, can't believe I only just found this channel.

  • @larrin6299
    @larrin6299 4 года назад +7

    I have no idea of what he's talking about in the beginning, mainly because I just discovered his channel XD

  • @TheMuslimMan1337
    @TheMuslimMan1337 6 лет назад +190

    ❌NO_THOTS_ALLOWED❌

  • @ashleyeve2446
    @ashleyeve2446 6 лет назад +14

    wow, so proud of you! you always put so much work into your videos!! keep it up!

    • @john-wo4rv
      @john-wo4rv 6 лет назад

      Ashley Eve your a gamergirl.

    • @gub4941
      @gub4941 4 года назад +2

      saint john no it’s fake

  • @Mishwad
    @Mishwad 5 лет назад

    Looks like you did a lot of research for this. Great video!

  • @donovandelaney3171
    @donovandelaney3171 2 года назад +2

    I love that we can now play all the Alphas and Betas. Moders better be taking notes.

  • @christopherwalkinalloverya5824
    @christopherwalkinalloverya5824 5 лет назад +1

    Amazing video bro, I subbed!

  • @ArtSensitive
    @ArtSensitive 6 лет назад

    Happy you’re back man.

  • @ThataccountFor
    @ThataccountFor 6 лет назад +1

    Can't wait for the full game to come out

  • @rando117
    @rando117 6 лет назад

    Where is that old stencil engine campaign footage from at 2:37? It looks familiar but I can't remember where that was shown.

  • @theogrobbythedragon
    @theogrobbythedragon 5 лет назад +3

    im new to this channel so i had no context behind your apologies (which of course you explained) but holy shit, why the fuck dont other youtubers take a page out of your book on how to apologize? it was simple and it was honest and not made to be a big deal. thats how its supposed to be done. mad respect bro. i had already subbed but if i could do it again, i would. very classy.

  • @kleadron
    @kleadron 4 года назад +1

    you can tell who's clocks are off from the debug text in the middle of the screen

  • @CFunk99
    @CFunk99 6 лет назад

    Good to see Vengeful Vadam back on YT. :)

  • @Greatspartan87
    @Greatspartan87 6 лет назад

    I enjoyed the video, man! It’s always interesting seeing how my favorite games are made. Got one for Combat Evolved?

  • @etranimations1018
    @etranimations1018 6 лет назад

    I fucking love these videos dude, also I would love to see the halo 4 beta and or alpha if you can, because there are a lot of unused armor abilities that haven't been covered that I've only seen once that involves a bubble shield thing and some other shit too.

  • @wannabecliffburton4275
    @wannabecliffburton4275 6 лет назад

    Your vids are always badass!

  • @dankerweevil6304
    @dankerweevil6304 6 лет назад

    Espere mucho por este vídeo tú me agradas por que siempre haces muy buenos videos sobre las betas alfas y otras versiones de juegos de Halo :')

  • @august1871
    @august1871 2 года назад +2

    I remember reading about this alpha back in the day. A player with the name "char" was interviewed because he was destroying everyone else.
    I was so jealous and wanted to be a Microsoft employee one day so I could be invited to something like this too. 😆

  • @SHOPTUBE867
    @SHOPTUBE867 6 лет назад

    Wow nice video great to come back

  • @internetmom5286
    @internetmom5286 6 лет назад +5

    Mah boi veggie 💕💕 I love this content yo, I appreciate the work you put into this

  • @yeoremuthare677
    @yeoremuthare677 25 дней назад

    :35
    THAT is how you take responsibility. That is commendable, that is someone you want on your team. I respect the heck outta you, Vengeful 'Vadam.

  • @brycevo
    @brycevo 4 года назад +2

    This is a pretty cool alpha. Look at how far we've come

    • @gran_turismo_fan
      @gran_turismo_fan 4 года назад +1

      I wished that 343 would upload the files of the E3 demo of halo 2 to the halo community so people can explore.

  • @bluespartan076
    @bluespartan076 3 года назад +1

    What are the double hex number strings in the halo 2/halo 3 alpha/beta builds for? (The alphanumeric strings next to the ammo counter)

    • @colinmcquiston3132
      @colinmcquiston3132 Год назад

      I want to know this too and nobody has asked about it and I couldn’t find an answer online

  • @BillJobs01
    @BillJobs01 4 года назад +1

    I hope those real life things have gotten better, mister. Dope video

  • @Allerka
    @Allerka 2 месяца назад

    This may be a dumb question but how do you actually access the "Shared" map? I got this Alpha running, but can't figure it out.

  • @gran_turismo_fan
    @gran_turismo_fan 4 года назад

    I wonder if you can use some of the button combos that are found in the retail version on the alpha and beta version of halo 2.

  • @TitanBP
    @TitanBP 4 года назад

    I cant get past the authenticator screen in the Halo 2 alpha? mine just gives me a prompt to return to dashboard everytime I try.

  • @SeeiingStars
    @SeeiingStars 6 лет назад

    Are there button combos such as the BXR OR RRX OR BXB in the alpha?

  • @SJ-qj4yk
    @SJ-qj4yk 6 лет назад

    At 22:09,Is this Custom Edition? I know that map is lockout but can anyone give me a link or something? I love to play that map on CE

  • @BTMmaster101
    @BTMmaster101 5 лет назад +2

    This comment is way past the upload date but man, don't feel like you owe the RUclips community a thing. We love your content but I think most of us would agree that we'd rather you take care of your personal struggles than prioritize content. Thank you for the content you put together, I hope things got/are getting better!

  • @Naded
    @Naded 3 месяца назад +1

    amazing video

  • @neocaron87
    @neocaron87 3 года назад +1

    Do you think it will ever be possible to get our hands on an alpha still running Halo 2 stencil engine? Or was the game still too early in dev to even be playable in a alpha build?

    • @theta_clips
      @theta_clips Год назад

      Too early in dev, as far as I know the E3 demo was completely scripted and might have actually been pre-constructed

  • @SoldierGryphon
    @SoldierGryphon 4 года назад +1

    Man, I want the build of the E3 2003 Campaign demo to leak onto the internet.

  • @Trevor6714
    @Trevor6714 2 года назад +1

    I've noticed my halo 2 alpha build only has burial mound? Edit: idk what I did but all them maps load now my bad lol

  • @Turtle3000
    @Turtle3000 5 лет назад +1

    Sorry if this sounds like a dumb question, but are there people playing this online right now?

  • @EnjoyGames_
    @EnjoyGames_ 5 лет назад

    Please help, I transfered the game via FTP, I can run it, but when I trying to "bypass" the code pressing A button, it doesn't do anything, just says "go to the Xbox dashboard?" I already downloaded the game on your link given below. Sorry if I made mistakes with my English :p.
    Edit:Just run the patched .xbe file, by searching on a file explorer

  • @odstat1949
    @odstat1949 3 года назад

    Hey, does anybody know how to play the alpha and beta? Downloaded the files and have no idea what to do know.

  • @ayylmao4142
    @ayylmao4142 5 лет назад

    How do I play it? Do I need to put it on a blank Xbox disk? Is there a .exe file?

  • @GhostSlay3r
    @GhostSlay3r 6 лет назад +1

    Nice video! Thanks for the great content :) But i wounder when will your full SPV3.1 review come?

    • @TheVengefulVadam
      @TheVengefulVadam  6 лет назад +2

      I’m gonna wait until SPV3.2 drops, which should be sometime soon, actually.

    • @GhostSlay3r
      @GhostSlay3r 6 лет назад

      Wow, nice! Can't wait :)

  • @UncookedMoa
    @UncookedMoa 6 лет назад +1

    Awesome work, Vengeful. But, I think you missed an important thing about the reloading. You can actually slightly speed up the reloading speed by meleeing, just like in CE. If you try to reload and melee before the reload animation completes in Halo 2, you don't get back your bullets. However, in CE and the Alpha, you get back your bullets if you melee as soon as you see the clip get into the gun.

    • @TheVengefulVadam
      @TheVengefulVadam  6 лет назад

      The thing is, that’s not always true. A lot of the Melee animations take forever in the alpha, like basically all the human weapons. With the BR especially, you’re better off just letting the reload finish.

    • @UncookedMoa
      @UncookedMoa 6 лет назад

      The Vengeful 'Vadam Oh, right.. It's still an interesting remnant from CE though in my opinion. Try the Brute Shot. It increases reload speed quite a bit. For the other weapons, it's situation dependent I guess. Imagine a close situation where that could save you. You melee your opponent right when you see the clip enter the gun, then you' re immediately ready to shoot some more, since you already have a full clip. Unless meleeing is really useless in the Alpha? I haven't exactly tested it outside of a single player environment.

  • @OBSCURE_DECKER
    @OBSCURE_DECKER 2 года назад +1

    How can I get multiplayer games running? I have it working on my modded xbox, and with internet.

    • @theta_clips
      @theta_clips Год назад

      X Link Kai with system link tunneling

  • @Broskibrother
    @Broskibrother 6 лет назад

    can you put a new link to the xlink kai discord?

  • @TheFacelessStoryMaker
    @TheFacelessStoryMaker 6 лет назад +2

    So Headhunter and Invasion were not new fully to Halo: Reach? Huh, I did not know that wow.

  • @elijahmiron5487
    @elijahmiron5487 6 лет назад

    I can’t wait for u to return

  • @kadette
    @kadette 6 лет назад +2

    Please keep the old one up. It was one of the coolest analysis videos out there, along with its series for the 3 halos

    • @TheVengefulVadam
      @TheVengefulVadam  6 лет назад +1

      You might be talking about the Halo 2 Beta Analysis, which I plan to keep up. The vid I took down was about the alpha videos that Toxzin posted.

  • @MisfortuneDS
    @MisfortuneDS 4 года назад

    how do i get past the network screen?

  • @iPlayiOS
    @iPlayiOS 6 лет назад +2

    This makes me so happy lol.
    I’d kill to sit in a room with the original Halo 2 Bungie development team and talk for hours about every single thing.

    • @wallacejenkins4747
      @wallacejenkins4747 6 лет назад

      iPlayiOS Don't you mean bungie before Activision and destiny

    • @iPlayiOS
      @iPlayiOS 6 лет назад +1

      Wallace Jenkins Knew someone would say that, as it always happens.
      When Bungie is being referred to in terms of Halo, Destiny never comes to thought because Destiny doesn't even come near Halo.
      Mentioning Destiny Bungie is useless.

  • @evillemperor5447
    @evillemperor5447 6 лет назад

    Does looking down all the way cause the player to look at ease?

  • @CFunk99
    @CFunk99 6 лет назад

    Can you do a Halo CE beta video if possible?

  • @GlitchMasta
    @GlitchMasta 6 лет назад +1

    "There are those who said this day would never come. What are they to say now?"

  • @spacemonkey5470
    @spacemonkey5470 4 года назад +1

    Let me just say if Halo 2 didn't have split-screen (which was basically the only way I played it, since I didn't have an Xbox but my friend did) I would've never fallen in love with the game. Halo 2 is my all-time favorite Halo game for a reason, because me and my best friends would sit and play campaign co-op and multiplayer for hours and hours. Without split-screen idk if I ever would've even played at all.

  • @projetN18
    @projetN18 6 лет назад

    can you make video on differences between halo ce and halo2 on xbox and pc

  • @guerrerodelbosque
    @guerrerodelbosque 6 лет назад

    Hey venge, they no longer play for Xlink Kai? I have connected several times and I no longer see anyone play.

  • @BA3942
    @BA3942 6 лет назад +2

    @15:10, I find that incredibly hilarious.

  • @SelfControlla
    @SelfControlla Год назад

    Did you say health packs at 10:25 ??

  • @LostODST
    @LostODST 6 лет назад

    Remember man irl comes first, I'll always be waiting here.

  • @HedgehogY2K
    @HedgehogY2K 3 года назад

    Didn't bother to re-stretch the UI+anamorphic 720x480 to widescreen I see.

  • @GrandDukeMushroom
    @GrandDukeMushroom 3 года назад

    Yo Vadam van you do some stuff on the MCC stuff

  • @ghosttoast6161
    @ghosttoast6161 6 лет назад

    I always just sit around thinking what Halo 2 could've been if they were able to keep the "pstencil engine" and were given another year of development. The original bungie team were so ambitious and ahead of their time. I hope one day we get access to the original halo 2 in its pstencil engine state. Also the E3 2000 halo ce demo would be great to get our hands on too.

  • @madcat789
    @madcat789 4 года назад +1

    What would a Halo 2 Game made out of the Stencil Engine look like?

  • @stevenvgs
    @stevenvgs 2 года назад

    22:08 Thats a Halo Custom Edition port of Lockout! Cool!

  • @akkros707
    @akkros707 5 лет назад

    That old Xbox article gave me fucking chills. I haven't been on that article in 14 years. All those old Xbox games that were new and were just releasing content on Xbox Live was just recent on that article. It's now 2018 and it feels like that it's right now that article is a time machine but it unfortunately its not😔
    23:20

  • @CarefulGiraffe
    @CarefulGiraffe 5 лет назад +1

    Is the alpha download for PC or Console? And if its pc are you able to play with a controller?

  • @wales2k4747
    @wales2k4747 6 лет назад +1

    I really wanna play this. Where can I download it?

  • @myanriles3185
    @myanriles3185 6 лет назад

    What is the song that starts at 5:17? Been lookin for it forever!

  • @marrowghost6102
    @marrowghost6102 4 года назад

    I just realized that this version of the Battle Rifle's bullet fire and stuff is just like that new rifle from Halo Infinite that was revealed. Or maybe it isn't and I'm just insane.

  • @BruhMoment-iy1jr
    @BruhMoment-iy1jr 3 года назад

    How do you run this?

  • @_montie
    @_montie 6 лет назад +5

    Wow I’ve always thought the wraith had the feel of it’s charged shot. So much cleaner and efficient than it’s final version.

  • @sethmathis250
    @sethmathis250 6 лет назад

    Shouts to the real OG's hunting for days on end in Burial Mounds to find the mongoose and super needler. Anyone remember the invisible walkway that leads you all the up the pizza cutter?