Honestly, Halo needs more APC style vehicles to make sense. If you think about it, even in an end of war scenario, throwing cheap thin armored warthogs and mongoose at the covenant killing many marines in the process doesn't make a whole lot of sense.
Iraq and Afghanistan show that military government totally wouldn't send thin or non-armored vehicles into combat, that can be taken out by a single cold war era grenade, leading to a bureaucratic overly compromised platform as the Bradley IFV that is also used as an APC. Noooooo. Also didnt the Halo Wars game have an apc in addition to the tanks and warthogs?
@@blankblank8608 The US knowingly sent our troops to die in both Iraq and Afghanistan only in the middle and later years did we "learn" from our mistakes and up-armor our humvees. The many lives lost cost the US, and later turned into the development and implementation of the JLTV, an up armored competitor to the outdated humvee. Additionally yes, The UNSC Spirit of Fire has "the Mastodon" APC and "the Bison" Cryo APC. Both have Very Limited use within the UNSC and same with SGT Forge's Armored Warthog these adaptations were made after seeing how many lives were lost due to under armored vehicles during the human-covenant war.
The APC is so cool! I really wish we got more transport vehicles in Halo, so we can have the ability to carry whole teams, even in BTB, or do some cool stuff in custom maps and gamemodes or in machinimas.
@@gifthorse3675 "Hop in my car, it don't have any dooooooooors. It's built like a cat, it lands on all fooooooours. My car's like a puma, it drives on all fooooooours."
2:54 honestly the vortex equipment, if it were given some buffs, would have been a really cool thing to have in multiplayer. I think the deflecting grenades thing is the coolest.
Digsite is majority fan driven, though some 343i staff are responsible for both providing content to sort through and organizing the endeavor in the first place.
The fact that I can look at Halo 3 in 2024 and be excited for unrelease content says everything. Bungie put another level of work into their Halo games, because they've aged incredibly well. It's still fun to play matches online like it's 2007.
That vortex equipment sounds like fun! I imagine throwing this at players near the edges of maps, or on a bridge, so they fall to their deaths lol. It's kinda like a throwable repulser
@@protocetid ahh well I still see how that would still be great fun! Just yeet it over at someone you don't like, and chuck a couple of nades, and it's like guaranteed kill/kills. *ᴵ ᶜᵃˢᵗ ᵇᶦᵍ ᵒˡ' ᵐᵃᵍⁿᵉᵗ*
@@_HypeR_7I agree though, the vortex equipment as shown in the video here would’ve been a great tool for area denial in multiplayer. Sure we have flame grenades in certain maps or game modes, but you can jump over those depending on the situation. I imagine seeing these used to block off a key walkway or room, but definitely would’ve been a pain for CTF or KOTH. Fun concept though!
@@Eizhwhat’s funny is that the original shade turret from CE had concept art of it walking around on those 3 legs. So this was bungie trying this concept one more time. Scarabs have legs, why not shade turrets?
@@asimplepie2279 I know that perfectly well, i also thought those things were working like that the first time i played CE. And even Mega Construx tried to make the same turret but for the UNSC, which could be deployed in the same way as the HEVs, still it doesn't mean the turret doesn't have a very bad design that stands out from the Covenant style, im better off with the classic Shade that don't move.
Bungie missed the opportunity of a lifetime to get the Gravity Gun in their games before Half-Life 2 did it. All the elements are there--343 Guilty Spark in Halo CE, and the Fist of Rukt in Halo 2, this vortex equipment/grenade that pushes away objects, and the later Promethean grenade that sucks objects in. Mind you, Ratchet and Clank had the same opportunity.
Thing about the gravity gun is that a lot of the game is designed around it-HL2 being the game Valve showcased the physics capabilities of the Source engine, Bungie would've had to design the game around using physics options to make the gravity gun even relevant
@@rattleboned Halo 2 uses the Havok physics engine, just like Half-Life 2. Enforcers in Halo 2 can also pick up vehicles and crush them, and the gravity lifts and bridges exist. Honestly, there's no reason for the Gravity Gun to not be in Halo. Ravenholm and the gravity gun launched sawblades chopping zombies in half? That's uniquely Half-Life.
@@3mpt7 I get what you're saying but even the Ravenholm example-HL2 tailored their gameplay around the physics whereas in Halo they're present, yeah, but they're hardly more than occasional comedic value. These games originated when everyone was still learning how to even use a controller and doing something akin to Ravenholm's launching sawblades to chop zombies heads would be tedious and slow down the gameplay back in 2000s console era. I do agree you *could* put the Gravity Gun in Halo, but with the things that you do in Halo (shoot gun, punch enemy) you just wouldn't care about the gravity gun
The Shade turret walker looks like it needs to be redesigned. The turret is too small to justify six legs, and the legs are too large and inflexible to navigate the terrain properly. The Shade turret design from Halo CE with three legs looks more capable of walking. I wonder what a Scarab would look like with six legs? Edit: Also, as others have noted elsewhere, the gunner will have to cover their ears when that main cannon fires on the APC. When are we going to get a functioning Albatross in Halo 3?
Only tangentially related, but according to another video, the Halo CE shade turret could walk as well, just with data hidden in the game files. Anyone know anything about this?
3:48 Very similar to the antenna used by speedrunners to jump on the scarab on Halo 2, seen after dialogue "When I asked for reinforcements I'd never think they send a Spartan"
All they're doing is combing through the old files, cleaning them up, and making them accessible. Not so much of a service as people on PC were finding these things the moment MCC on PC released.
@@DioStandProudThere's a lot of low effort additions to gaming lately, I miss when DLC and updates added quality content but now everything seems recycled and lazy
@@DioStandProudThere's a lot of low effort additions to gaming lately, I miss when DLC and updates added quality content but now everything seems recycled and lazy
I took a closer look at the Wolverine. It can't possibly carry troops and have room for all its own parts/fuel/ammo storage etc. It seems designed as direct fire support for infantry or as part of a larger armoured formation. They could have a few classic 'Hogs for light anti-air/infantry duty, maybe a gauss hog as well, then a Wolverine as the primary firepower. That small unit could screen ahead for Scorpions or Elephant movements or be a very deadly threat all on their own!
The Med kit model here was a cut prop for use in the first crows nest cutscene where you see a bunch of wounded marines all across the level. Makes a neat forge prop for infection maps.
There's something that I gotta get off of my chest, I once saw a video where someone was giving praise to Halo's vehicle design. I think that the person doing this legitimately was seriously coming off to have a "tacticool" mindset per se. Like, saying vehicles in Halo are at all practical is an indictment to someone's critical thinking skills imo. If you think about it, (almost) ALL vehicles in Halo sre designed with two things in mind: - To have easily recognizable silhouettes that are aesthetically pleasing and badass - To get the driver/crew killed Both points are equally valid and I think well achieved, but to think that the warthog is practical AT ALL is borderline insanity. The ghost is a scout vehicle that has antigrav and propulsion technology but lacks any energy shields for the drivers? From an army that has enough energy shields that they can be handed out as deployable covers? The warthog is the main battle transport for humanity yet it can only carry 3 people, with the driver and copilot absolutely unprotected because humanity unlearned to put DOORS in their damned cars? Your main ground unit transport vehicle (transport warthog) has only space for 7 marines, 5 of them on the back with NO cover to speak of? WHY THE HELL ARE THE FALCON GUNNERS HANGING OFF TO THE SIDE??? The answer is simple, gameplay, spartans and elites have shields, you don't want vehicles to have any more defensive power lr else the players who get on top of them will be nigh unkillable. This is the main game-design flaw with both the Mantis and Hornet, vehicles with very high fire power and extreme versatility but with no glaring weakness for players to exploit, outside of the obvious Spartan Laser, Scorpion shot or the like. Imo that makes them the most reasonable designs, no way for an enemy combatant to, you know, punch the driver out of the vehicle with ease. Anyways, rant over, glad to see st least someone in Bungie at some point though of an APC, although I would have never added one to the games because I recognize the balance reasons lol
As it turns out,there's actually no strict mention that a tank must have tracks or even a turret with a large main gun. If we only talk about the former,then the French have made several wheeled tanks,whilst a lot of gun based tank destroyers are bascially wheeled tanks. Armoured cars are under the APC/IFV umbrella due to them being used to fulfill both roles quite a lot,whilst APCs/IFVs can have tracks,and as the mighty half-tracks have shown,both.
I spaced out somewhere in the video and remembered I've been watching you make Halo content for a decade and now I have to comment about it because there's gotta be more who remember too
This might be a long shot, but does anybody else remember a very early trailer for Halo 3 (before it came out) where they showed some multiplayer. And there's was this scene where, what I thought was an elephant (the vehicle) on the map High Ground. I've tried to find this for YEARS. But now when I saw this map and the new UNSC vehicle, could it have been this that I saw all these years ago??
This vehicle was something made during very early development of Reach, and a lot of the blanks were filled in by the digsite team. I'll take a look through the ViDocs for H3 and see if anything odd shows up.
@@NairbNroh ah, I see. Yeah I’ve been looking through all the vidocs and haven’t found it. I remember it very clearly and for some reason I’ve been thinking about it for a decade 😅
It could have a smaller gun. Lore explanation being that the larger gun and turret if the tank gun taking too much space in an APC or IFV. However, I wouldn't want that in any of the mainline FPS games because it would prevent you from shooting anyone in the vehicle, messing with the balance. Even ths scorpion and wraith let you shoot the driver, and those are the ones that best protect it.
The Shade turret walker still looks rubbish with six legs---the turret is far too small to have so many legs, and the legs are far too large to navigate the terrain. The Shade turret in Halo CE looks like it can walk better with three legs.
Seeing an APC in Halo makes me CRAVE for more Battlefield style PvP mode in Halo. Imagine dropping in as ODST's, or landing in a pelican as a marine, have a couple Spartans running around as a hero class or juggernaut, while the covenant side has their drop ships full of Sniper Jackals, the various styles of Elites and Grunts, Brutes, Hunter as their juggernaut class. Seriously it's such an overlooked opportunity that I feel not only the Halo community would love but it would cater to a greater audience of Battlefield type players. Microsoft has been sitting on a gold mine and doesn't take the opportunity.
One thing that always bothered me in Halo is the lack of automatic shotguns. We have automatic shotguns today, the Daewoo USAS-12, the AA-12, and more, and sure, they don't have the same kind of niche in our modern battlefield, but they'd absolutely be useful in space engagements when the enemy manages to board your ship - like in the first Halo level, the Pillar of Autumn. Close quarters like that really gives an advantage to shotguns, and having fully automatic shotguns would make a lot of sense. From a gameplay balance perspective, I can sort of understand - they already had the M90, which is pump-action, and in Infinite we got the Bulldog, which is semi-auto, so the role of the shotgun was already filled, especially when we look at the very small weapon sandbox of the original game, where every weapon had a specific purpose, but from a lore standpoint, it would make sense to have some evolution of the AA-12, or, given the series' propensity for bullpups, some kind of reimagined Pancor Jackhammer. They could even have it as sort of a power weapon, something you don't get access to often in the campaign and has special requirements to drop in multiplayer, maybe make each shot only two thirds as damaging as the base shotgun, and it would serve a solid role in suppression in tight spaces. Just my little pet peeve, I've always loved the idea of an automatic shotgun, so I naturally have issues when a setting logically could have them but doesn't.
@@excellent_o_excrement2460 Really? It's been a while since I've played, and I never really use the thing, but I don't remember there being a pump animation. Still, the point still stands, we have full auto shotguns today, and it would make sense to have them in the mid 2550s.
@@elis7081 Okay, looking at the animation again, I see it now. I always just thought that was part of the Chief handling the recoil, not a separate part of the weapon's functionality.
All these years later, and he's still making this content. Like the cheese forever if any and all things easter egg. Also would be cool to see him cover other random titles like LA noire or resident evil 4. Or whatever
This is so [BLAM]-in' cool! And I would characterise the vehicle as a (really depends on cannon size, intended role/ammo type) self-propelled gun,light tank or Infantry Fighting Vehicle. It could be a troop transport but those typically have smaller guns in exchange for more armour, space/support for more occupants! Either way, really great stuff, it is very exciting seeing this obscure content
The vortex is the one thing I just straight up can’t find a reason for that not being in the game, fits like a glove. (APC Is cool af but not necessarily needed in the sandbox)
@@OJ9992 in the videos where you can see his face you can tell he is of some sort of Asian descent definitely not Scandinavian I know he had a video where he had like a special copy of Halo 3 or something that was I think for China I'll see if I can find the video and drop a link
@@chipsdubbo5.56 All these years I’ve wondered but only just now googled him, yeah he’s clearly Asian and his fandom wiki jokes his occupation as “apple watch maker” so yeah I’m thinking Chinese.
If you played halo wars the wolverine is supposed to be anti tank with a bigger canon than the scorpion and when deployed turned into artillery but otherwise everything else shown is pretty cool
Why doesn't tanks have big wheels instead of tracks? Good question... The tires can be easily deflated in a war, which the tanks becomes useless to drive.
I love these types of videos, all discarded content should come back before porting a game or making a remake. Halo 2 had so many things that 343i could have remade in Halo 2 Anniversary as the vision Bungie had in 2004. Wish if they do a Remake of Halo CE or Halo 3 Anniversary is a complete Remake, we see redone levels, weapons, models, new ranks and extra cutscenes. P.S. I like that Spiker, it looks like the one from the Banished. should be added like the Spiker from Halo 2, knowing that Bungie wanted to add the Spiker and Mauler in Halo 2.
Kind of see why they didn't add those in the game for the Wolverine APC part it wasn't really any different than the tank and should have been design different on the turret cannon part so it wouldn't be just like the tank's turret cannon part. Shade Walker look like a good idea to add into the game but at least to have little more speed in its walking ability while using it and maybe even different destruction look to it. As for the Vortex Equipment it probably was a good reason they didn't added it into the game for how it look like a useless thing to be use in the game and more less in players favorite choices to pick for.
That vortex equipment should have been in the game smh but this is exactly why bungie was goated pieces they have cut from the game didn’t meet thier expectations due too game balance but the idea was such a great thought this is why halo needs bungie back 343 could never compare their brainstorming to bungie because bungie always delivered from start to finish
Honestly, Halo needs more APC style vehicles to make sense. If you think about it, even in an end of war scenario, throwing cheap thin armored warthogs and mongoose at the covenant killing many marines in the process doesn't make a whole lot of sense.
Iraq and Afghanistan show that military government totally wouldn't send thin or non-armored vehicles into combat, that can be taken out by a single cold war era grenade, leading to a bureaucratic overly compromised platform as the Bradley IFV that is also used as an APC. Noooooo. Also didnt the Halo Wars game have an apc in addition to the tanks and warthogs?
@@blankblank8608 The US knowingly sent our troops to die in both Iraq and Afghanistan only in the middle and later years did we "learn" from our mistakes and up-armor our humvees. The many lives lost cost the US, and later turned into the development and implementation of the JLTV, an up armored competitor to the outdated humvee. Additionally yes, The UNSC Spirit of Fire has "the Mastodon" APC and "the Bison" Cryo APC. Both have Very Limited use within the UNSC and same with SGT Forge's Armored Warthog these adaptations were made after seeing how many lives were lost due to under armored vehicles during the human-covenant war.
Too bad looks badass
@@chipsdubbo112 looks badass when my best friend's brains line the dashboard AND the entire windshield
@@Kisseyhersh123 Should’ve been in the Player’s warthog
Antenna was originally meant to extend the range/radius of your radar.
The APC is so cool! I really wish we got more transport vehicles in Halo, so we can have the ability to carry whole teams, even in BTB, or do some cool stuff in custom maps and gamemodes or in machinimas.
The warthogs should be more armored with doors
@@gifthorse3675
"Hop in my car, it don't have any dooooooooors.
It's built like a cat, it lands on all fooooooours.
My car's like a puma, it drives on all fooooooours."
2:54 honestly the vortex equipment, if it were given some buffs, would have been a really cool thing to have in multiplayer. I think the deflecting grenades thing is the coolest.
Would've been a great counter for the spankr. I still wish you could deflect rockets back with the repulsor in infinite
@@TravisParnellbut you can in infinite wdym
Seems like the people who really care about the franchise at 343 Studios are doing what they can right now.
Digsite is majority fan driven, though some 343i staff are responsible for both providing content to sort through and organizing the endeavor in the first place.
@@ToaDrakua Thanks for the info - makes more sense now.
Lol
The fact that I can look at Halo 3 in 2024 and be excited for unrelease content says everything. Bungie put another level of work into their Halo games, because they've aged incredibly well. It's still fun to play matches online like it's 2007.
That vortex equipment sounds like fun!
I imagine throwing this at players near the edges of maps, or on a bridge, so they fall to their deaths lol.
It's kinda like a throwable repulser
profile pic checks out
@@VoodleBand lol it's actually the same thing too! This is my halo 3 emblem. :D
Digsite said it’s supposed to pull and trap things into its orbit, don’t know if the Digsite crew messed up some values in the code or something
@@protocetid ahh well I still see how that would still be great fun! Just yeet it over at someone you don't like, and chuck a couple of nades, and it's like guaranteed kill/kills.
*ᴵ ᶜᵃˢᵗ ᵇᶦᵍ ᵒˡ' ᵐᵃᵍⁿᵉᵗ*
@@_HypeR_7I agree though, the vortex equipment as shown in the video here would’ve been a great tool for area denial in multiplayer. Sure we have flame grenades in certain maps or game modes, but you can jump over those depending on the situation. I imagine seeing these used to block off a key walkway or room, but definitely would’ve been a pain for CTF or KOTH. Fun concept though!
Vortex was what Guilty Spark uses in the mission "Halo" to push the chief back when he gets too close in gameplay.
It would have been sick to have the shade walker in the final build
It is SO DAMN SLOW and a pain to maneuver
@@foxwithagun2540 ,well,it is just a way to make a portable mounted machine gun,with the added bonus of slight terrain travellng ablities.
Honestly... it looks bad, not a Covie style to be honest.
They should have made the Locust and keep it as the Mantis counterpart.
@@Eizhwhat’s funny is that the original shade turret from CE had concept art of it walking around on those 3 legs. So this was bungie trying this concept one more time. Scarabs have legs, why not shade turrets?
@@asimplepie2279 I know that perfectly well, i also thought those things were working like that the first time i played CE.
And even Mega Construx tried to make the same turret but for the UNSC, which could be deployed in the same way as the HEVs, still it doesn't mean the turret doesn't have a very bad design that stands out from the Covenant style, im better off with the classic Shade that don't move.
The APC was wasted and could’ve been very cool
I see why they cut it, it would be too similar to the scorpian
@@dukezilla3471they really needed to make the cannon more akin to the gauss turret
@@dukezilla3471 It's also very similar to the real world Striker MGS
Halo 2 plasma canon was the best plasma canon.
Yes
The spike pepperbox actually makes a small appearance (kind of) In halo wars 2! the brute infantry uses them
Bungie missed the opportunity of a lifetime to get the Gravity Gun in their games before Half-Life 2 did it. All the elements are there--343 Guilty Spark in Halo CE, and the Fist of Rukt in Halo 2, this vortex equipment/grenade that pushes away objects, and the later Promethean grenade that sucks objects in. Mind you, Ratchet and Clank had the same opportunity.
Theres a gravity gun in Turok Evolution man
@@Eizh Cool. I can't buy a digital copy anywhere. Looks like the gravity disruptor only works on enemies, not physics objects.
Thing about the gravity gun is that a lot of the game is designed around it-HL2 being the game Valve showcased the physics capabilities of the Source engine, Bungie would've had to design the game around using physics options to make the gravity gun even relevant
@@rattleboned Halo 2 uses the Havok physics engine, just like Half-Life 2. Enforcers in Halo 2 can also pick up vehicles and crush them, and the gravity lifts and bridges exist. Honestly, there's no reason for the Gravity Gun to not be in Halo. Ravenholm and the gravity gun launched sawblades chopping zombies in half? That's uniquely Half-Life.
@@3mpt7 I get what you're saying but even the Ravenholm example-HL2 tailored their gameplay around the physics whereas in Halo they're present, yeah, but they're hardly more than occasional comedic value. These games originated when everyone was still learning how to even use a controller and doing something akin to Ravenholm's launching sawblades to chop zombies heads would be tedious and slow down the gameplay back in 2000s console era. I do agree you *could* put the Gravity Gun in Halo, but with the things that you do in Halo (shoot gun, punch enemy) you just wouldn't care about the gravity gun
2:59 think fast, chuckle nuts!
I really want that vortex equipment to be brought back in the next game or something. It just looks like it could lead to a lot of fun moments.
The vortex equipment even deflects fuel rod
The Shade turret walker looks like it needs to be redesigned. The turret is too small to justify six legs, and the legs are too large and inflexible to navigate the terrain properly. The Shade turret design from Halo CE with three legs looks more capable of walking. I wonder what a Scarab would look like with six legs? Edit: Also, as others have noted elsewhere, the gunner will have to cover their ears when that main cannon fires on the APC. When are we going to get a functioning Albatross in Halo 3?
Nah its ugly, should be kept like this and forgotten, then wait for a playable Locust.
Only tangentially related, but according to another video, the Halo CE shade turret could walk as well, just with data hidden in the game files. Anyone know anything about this?
Likely this inspired the Locust and is a very early idea
@@Eizh no locust is for buildings. new design is needed
3:48 Very similar to the antenna used by speedrunners to jump on the scarab on Halo 2, seen after dialogue "When I asked for reinforcements I'd never think they send a Spartan"
It must be said. Thank you, 343, for your continued support for modders. We really appreciate it.
All they're doing is combing through the old files, cleaning them up, and making them accessible. Not so much of a service as people on PC were finding these things the moment MCC on PC released.
Thank you, 343, for ruining Halo.
@@pierreo33Yes and didn't they claim to hire people who hate halo?
@@DioStandProudThere's a lot of low effort additions to gaming lately, I miss when DLC and updates added quality content but now everything seems recycled and lazy
@@DioStandProudThere's a lot of low effort additions to gaming lately, I miss when DLC and updates added quality content but now everything seems recycled and lazy
The vortex equipment is almost exactly like Ruby's rebalanced halo 3 mod the force flare since both have the same macanic of pushing things back.
Yeah, funny how ruby made that without knowledge that this even existed lol
I took a closer look at the Wolverine. It can't possibly carry troops and have room for all its own parts/fuel/ammo storage etc. It seems designed as direct fire support for infantry or as part of a larger armoured formation.
They could have a few classic 'Hogs for light anti-air/infantry duty, maybe a gauss hog as well, then a Wolverine as the primary firepower. That small unit could screen ahead for Scorpions or Elephant movements or be a very deadly threat all on their own!
The Med kit model here was a cut prop for use in the first crows nest cutscene where you see a bunch of wounded marines all across the level. Makes a neat forge prop for infection maps.
If I ever make a halo 3 modded campaign, I'll include the shade Walker and vortex in them.
There's something that I gotta get off of my chest, I once saw a video where someone was giving praise to Halo's vehicle design.
I think that the person doing this legitimately was seriously coming off to have a "tacticool" mindset per se.
Like, saying vehicles in Halo are at all practical is an indictment to someone's critical thinking skills imo.
If you think about it, (almost) ALL vehicles in Halo sre designed with two things in mind:
- To have easily recognizable silhouettes that are aesthetically pleasing and badass
- To get the driver/crew killed
Both points are equally valid and I think well achieved, but to think that the warthog is practical AT ALL is borderline insanity.
The ghost is a scout vehicle that has antigrav and propulsion technology but lacks any energy shields for the drivers? From an army that has enough energy shields that they can be handed out as deployable covers?
The warthog is the main battle transport for humanity yet it can only carry 3 people, with the driver and copilot absolutely unprotected because humanity unlearned to put DOORS in their damned cars?
Your main ground unit transport vehicle (transport warthog) has only space for 7 marines, 5 of them on the back with NO cover to speak of?
WHY THE HELL ARE THE FALCON GUNNERS HANGING OFF TO THE SIDE???
The answer is simple, gameplay, spartans and elites have shields, you don't want vehicles to have any more defensive power lr else the players who get on top of them will be nigh unkillable.
This is the main game-design flaw with both the Mantis and Hornet, vehicles with very high fire power and extreme versatility but with no glaring weakness for players to exploit, outside of the obvious Spartan Laser, Scorpion shot or the like.
Imo that makes them the most reasonable designs, no way for an enemy combatant to, you know, punch the driver out of the vehicle with ease.
Anyways, rant over, glad to see st least someone in Bungie at some point though of an APC, although I would have never added one to the games because I recognize the balance reasons lol
And interesringly the wolverine did come back, but as a AA vehicle in halo wars.
It got wheels so by default Armored Car. If it's tracks then it's a tank for a certain role.
APCs/IFVs can utilize both. Proper armored cars are a rarity as both types of prior mentioned vehicles do its role but better.
Not really, some tanks do use wheels like light tanks, you can see this on many prototype tanks.
As it turns out,there's actually no strict mention that a tank must have tracks or even a turret with a large main gun.
If we only talk about the former,then the French have made several wheeled tanks,whilst a lot of gun based tank destroyers are bascially wheeled tanks.
Armoured cars are under the APC/IFV umbrella due to them being used to fulfill both roles quite a lot,whilst APCs/IFVs can have tracks,and as the mighty half-tracks have shown,both.
shade walker a grunts best friend
Soooooooooo much potential in MCC! Its so frustrating there's no modded game browser!
Some more limited mods can be played through the customs browser.
I spaced out somewhere in the video and remembered I've been watching you make Halo content for a decade and now I have to comment about it because there's gotta be more who remember too
That apc is bad-ass too bad it wasn’t in halo wars
2:31 Thats really cool! Seems as if the effect was later used and reimplemented for the Guilty Spark boss fight at the end of 3
Is it just me or the Wolverine APC looks like a MGS Stryker?
Kinda strange how the UNCS never invested in artillery vehicles for large battlefields
Dude, it's INSANE your still uploading. Best dedication and such a win for the halo community :)
Something like the vortex is in rubys rebalanced halo 3 I think, shows fans and og devs are on the same page!
anyone notice that the early spiker killed miranda keys
Vortex would have been great for combating the flood
The vortex looks like it could have been a lot of fun in multiplayer. Imagine if it deflected rockets and the random wtf moments it would bring. Shame
This might be a long shot, but does anybody else remember a very early trailer for Halo 3 (before it came out) where they showed some multiplayer. And there's was this scene where, what I thought was an elephant (the vehicle) on the map High Ground. I've tried to find this for YEARS. But now when I saw this map and the new UNSC vehicle, could it have been this that I saw all these years ago??
This vehicle was something made during very early development of Reach, and a lot of the blanks were filled in by the digsite team. I'll take a look through the ViDocs for H3 and see if anything odd shows up.
@@NairbNroh ah, I see. Yeah I’ve been looking through all the vidocs and haven’t found it. I remember it very clearly and for some reason I’ve been thinking about it for a decade 😅
Oh boy, new content, can't wait to turn on my Xbox again!
I saw that little crawling thing on tsavo highway yesterday in the mythic overhaul mod for halo 3, blew my mind 0-0
Ill just assume Halo does have APC but gameplay wise it woukd be either awkward or OP having a more mobile Scorpion or Wraith tank
It could have a smaller gun. Lore explanation being that the larger gun and turret if the tank gun taking too much space in an APC or IFV. However, I wouldn't want that in any of the mainline FPS games because it would prevent you from shooting anyone in the vehicle, messing with the balance. Even ths scorpion and wraith let you shoot the driver, and those are the ones that best protect it.
Honestly every time I watch one of your videos and hearing the winXP startup sound make me feel weirdly nostalgic.
Always a shame whin things like these end up getting left out.
3:17 Glad to see some Matrix 'Red Pill - Blue Pill' alongside two Nintendo DS
We gonna act like the spike pepperbox isn’t the Halo wars 2 brutes choice of weapon?
pretty sure the antenna is another halo 2 port
The Shade turret walker still looks rubbish with six legs---the turret is far too small to have so many legs, and the legs are far too large to navigate the terrain. The Shade turret in Halo CE looks like it can walk better with three legs.
Wow the shade walker is a great idea! If they kept refining it it could be like a mini scarab!
loving the Shade Walker literally a Covenant AT-RT!
3:49 This antenna is definitely in the Xbox 360 version of Halo 3
Halo 3 sand map dlc mongoose tracks were golden age of gaming
We really need these on console!!!
Seeing an APC in Halo makes me CRAVE for more Battlefield style PvP mode in Halo. Imagine dropping in as ODST's, or landing in a pelican as a marine, have a couple Spartans running around as a hero class or juggernaut, while the covenant side has their drop ships full of Sniper Jackals, the various styles of Elites and Grunts, Brutes, Hunter as their juggernaut class. Seriously it's such an overlooked opportunity that I feel not only the Halo community would love but it would cater to a greater audience of Battlefield type players. Microsoft has been sitting on a gold mine and doesn't take the opportunity.
hoping someone one day with the shade walker make it move faster and more stick to the ground so its not flipping
The shade walker seems like it was inspired by the Geonosian Acklay monster in Attack of The Clones.
Awesome stuff, please bring back the puns!
The Vortex is really cool. It's a shame it never saw the light of day, I can imagine the community would have had a lot of fun with it.
They brought the APC to Halo Wars 2
2!
Nothing compares!
That walking shade turret should have been in game since CE and called "Arachne"
They probably didn't want an APC that so closely resembles a real world model. This APC is very similar to the Striker MGS.
that vortex wouldve been a lot of fun to play with
It looks like an LAV and a Styker had a baby
Damn the Wolverine is really cool
The Spiker Pepperbox gives me Hammerburst vibes from Gears Of War 1
Shade walker reminds me of those Mantis you see in Halo Wars
One thing that always bothered me in Halo is the lack of automatic shotguns. We have automatic shotguns today, the Daewoo USAS-12, the AA-12, and more, and sure, they don't have the same kind of niche in our modern battlefield, but they'd absolutely be useful in space engagements when the enemy manages to board your ship - like in the first Halo level, the Pillar of Autumn. Close quarters like that really gives an advantage to shotguns, and having fully automatic shotguns would make a lot of sense.
From a gameplay balance perspective, I can sort of understand - they already had the M90, which is pump-action, and in Infinite we got the Bulldog, which is semi-auto, so the role of the shotgun was already filled, especially when we look at the very small weapon sandbox of the original game, where every weapon had a specific purpose, but from a lore standpoint, it would make sense to have some evolution of the AA-12, or, given the series' propensity for bullpups, some kind of reimagined Pancor Jackhammer.
They could even have it as sort of a power weapon, something you don't get access to often in the campaign and has special requirements to drop in multiplayer, maybe make each shot only two thirds as damaging as the base shotgun, and it would serve a solid role in suppression in tight spaces.
Just my little pet peeve, I've always loved the idea of an automatic shotgun, so I naturally have issues when a setting logically could have them but doesn't.
the bulldog is pump action too not semi auto
@@excellent_o_excrement2460 Really? It's been a while since I've played, and I never really use the thing, but I don't remember there being a pump animation.
Still, the point still stands, we have full auto shotguns today, and it would make sense to have them in the mid 2550s.
@SerathDarklands yup, the bulldog has a foregrip that you pump
@@elis7081 I'll have to keep an eye out next time I play.
@@elis7081 Okay, looking at the animation again, I see it now. I always just thought that was part of the Chief handling the recoil, not a separate part of the weapon's functionality.
The Wolverine APC is basically just a Stryker.
All these years later, and he's still making this content. Like the cheese forever if any and all things easter egg. Also would be cool to see him cover other random titles like LA noire or resident evil 4. Or whatever
This is so [BLAM]-in' cool! And I would characterise the vehicle as a (really depends on cannon size, intended role/ammo type) self-propelled gun,light tank or Infantry Fighting Vehicle.
It could be a troop transport but those typically have smaller guns in exchange for more armour, space/support for more occupants! Either way, really great stuff, it is very exciting seeing this obscure content
When is Digsite gonna release more information of the E3 Demo version of Halo 2? I really wanna play that!
Halo 3 still looks fucking amazing
Halo 3 guest starring Twisted Metal's Minion
WTF how was the vortex not in the final game?! Would have been tons of fun throwing them under tanks and wraiths. Shade walker is also cool.
There needs to be a handheld Halo 2 plasma cannon in SPV3
The vortex is the one thing I just straight up can’t find a reason for that not being in the game, fits like a glove. (APC Is cool af but not necessarily needed in the sandbox)
No forerunner tank?
That apc looks identical to the Kodiaks from halo wars.
Where do we go to access the digsite stuff?
GeneralKidd what is your accent? I’ve always wondered.
I could be wrong but I think I remember him saying he has some rare Halo stuff that's not in the states. I think he's in China but I'm not 100% sure
@@chipsdubbo5.56 His channel info says he’s in America but I always thought he sounded Scandinavian.
@@OJ9992 in the videos where you can see his face you can tell he is of some sort of Asian descent definitely not Scandinavian I know he had a video where he had like a special copy of Halo 3 or something that was I think for China I'll see if I can find the video and drop a link
@@chipsdubbo5.56 All these years I’ve wondered but only just now googled him, yeah he’s clearly Asian and his fandom wiki jokes his occupation as “apple watch maker” so yeah I’m thinking Chinese.
does the pepperbox dual wield?
the APC only does the turret and cannon, not the body
If you played halo wars the wolverine is supposed to be anti tank with a bigger canon than the scorpion and when deployed turned into artillery but otherwise everything else shown is pretty cool
I'm pretty sure you're thinking of something else. The wolverine is an AA missile launcher in Halo wars.
That APC looks alot like the Kodiak from HW2
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Why doesn't tanks have big wheels instead of tracks? Good question... The tires can be easily deflated in a war, which the tanks becomes useless to drive.
Iirc that antenna isn't new, hence why it's not mentioned
Isn't that apc destroyed in odst?
why is all this stuff only now added to MCC if its from early H3?
Cut content
how do you get these weapons to spawn?
Imagine a halo modding community that treats the game, the same way the mod creators of G.A.M.M.A treats S.T.A.L.K.E.R
I love these types of videos, all discarded content should come back before porting a game or making a remake.
Halo 2 had so many things that 343i could have remade in Halo 2 Anniversary as the vision Bungie had in 2004.
Wish if they do a Remake of Halo CE or Halo 3 Anniversary is a complete Remake, we see redone levels, weapons, models, new ranks and extra cutscenes.
P.S. I like that Spiker, it looks like the one from the Banished. should be added like the Spiker from Halo 2, knowing that Bungie wanted to add the Spiker and Mauler in Halo 2.
Wish the wolverine was the halo wars version, with the grenade launcher small turret and missile launcher main gun
Honestly they need to add some of this to forge!
Where can I get these?
Kind of see why they didn't add those in the game for the Wolverine APC part it wasn't really any different than the tank and should have been design different on the turret cannon part so it wouldn't be just like the tank's turret cannon part. Shade Walker look like a good idea to add into the game but at least to have little more speed in its walking ability while using it and maybe even different destruction look to it. As for the Vortex Equipment it probably was a good reason they didn't added it into the game for how it look like a useless thing to be use in the game and more less in players favorite choices to pick for.
Locust would be cool but halo 3 came out before locust was invented
Halo2 stuff makes sense
That vortex equipment should have been in the game smh but this is exactly why bungie was goated pieces they have cut from the game didn’t meet thier expectations due too game balance but the idea was such a great thought this is why halo needs bungie back 343 could never compare their brainstorming to bungie because bungie always delivered from start to finish
2:56 1 reverse card be like:
Nice video.