Great stuff! i have noticed (not just on this channel) that alot of the Bike mechanics dont use power tools. i use my 1/4 and 3/8 impact to remove nuts and bolts , speeds things up immensly. not sure why bike garages dont use them ..as time is money ? Going to be interested see results on track
@@hypermotardking ruclips.net/video/Oz2Tn_uAjgc/видео.html ruclips.net/video/gm1yPMqRWoc/видео.html this is what i use, is my most used tool (no jokes please :)
Just got my Hyper SP and I am almost exactly your weight (Light). Straight off--it seems I'm not seeing enough sag with rider--forks are at about 38mm with me on it. I think I heard him say 40-45mm--but I didn't hear a rear number? Did your guy here set those and to what loaded sag amounts? Did you go for the lighter rear spring yet? Also seems a good move. Thanks for all these videos! The Hyper source!
Yes lighter 90nm spring - this was a track setup as it was pogo’ing through corners/change of direction. This 1st video (in description) has the setting when I first got the bike: ruclips.net/video/CjkrhQasbaI/видео.html
what van were you using? I'm after one for my 22 to take to the track. interesting video, but I can't get the whole suspension rebound or preload stuff. and I did my apprenticeship for LVBR.
Its a Ford 8-Seater Tourneo.. best Van i’ve had. Suspension setup is tricky and I’d always pay the upfront money to get someone to set it up and then tweak it depending on riding conditions..
very interesting, thanks for sharing, one question, at the rear you have changed the original spring from 180mm-100nm to 170mm-90nm, but at the front apart from raising the fork legs a bit on the triple clamp, have you done anything else? softer or shorter springs, less oil?, thanks
@@hypermotardking Thank you so much, do you remember how much oil they removed? P.S. What is your weight for which you have decided to "soften" suspensions?
@@hypermotardking thx again, one more question, with the lowering in height and softening of the suspension, could it be that dynamically you have achieved an even more agile and slightly less stable motorcycle?
@@magirusmagirus8045 Definately more agile and to me its not unstable. I made all these changes for Track riding as the bike was horrible when changing direction and loading/unloading the suspension. I started with stock oem factory setting and slowly modified till it was perfect for my high corner speed and late late braking technique to get faster laptimes. I’ve kept these settings for road riding too
If you don't mind me asking, how much do you weigh? I'm 195 and my 2020 feels pretty damn good with stock springs, although I did have to tweak all the settings.
Just wondering, why did you get the SP version if you want something more comfy and plush on the road? That suspension is designed to be stiff it’s a performance suspension, not a street suspension.
Regardsless of the bike/version I always have my bike suspension tuned for our shitty bumpy uk roads and as I do alot of track days the ohlins helps ele its another £2K on Ktech or BiTurbo
@@hypermotardking I agree. That’s always a good idea. But you seem to not be happy with this firmness of it. Not sure how much track time you spent, but this design is for the track is meant to be firm. It might not be comfortable like you’re maybe used to, but it will handle better.
@@daytonasayswhat9333 check out my track videos.. got about 12 track days on my channel - on our UK tracks we have elevation, camber, blind crests so the direction change/load/unload really unsettles the Hyper on track when stiff.. so softening it allows the suspension to react and absorb instead of pogo
@@daytonasayswhat9333 Sorry mate I don’t. By all means you should be able to drop sw suspension an email, mention hypermotardking and he might remember 👍🏻
Base model is Probably softer.. but the base model has cast wheels, the forged Marchesini are really light and easy £2K to buy 2nd hand - I’d buy the SP everytime.
I had to take everything out to 0 on my bike I'm 230 pounds fully geared up. Set the sag in the rear at 55 and 45 in the front I'm only 4 clicks in on the compression on the front fork 3 clicks on the rear and it's finally riding better. Definitely track bike suspension out of the factory No good for the terrible roads we have to ride on here in California.
I asked that.. being a new bike with 1300 miles it didn’t need it - it also adds another 4 hours time to complete and I have more track days to do - so will wait till end of season to do it now that I know how to remove them myself 👍🏻
So OHLINS spent millions of £ on development, fitting a front fork with x amount of stroke / travel. But the local suspension guru removes travel , fits the wrong length springs & a few spacers . And your happy now. Even worse gour happy to pay for that. NEXT VIDEO TITLE = I've binned the hypermotard!!
Well I hope not.. not all riders are the same (height/weight/skill).. SW Suspension work in BSB and WSBK.. so lets see what the next video brings 🤷🏾♂️
@@LexyISF that's your opinion. Two riders , same bike same weight not same suspension set up. You agree!! Therefore it wouldn't matter if it was OEM set up or back street specialist set up. You agree!! Therefore in my opinion many riders input (oem) is better than single person set up / opinion ( back street)
Thank you for showing the whole process! It was interesting to see. No way i'd do all that work in my garage!
Exactly.. leave that to the experts 👍🏻
Nice one man
Can’t wait to hear the feedback after donni
yeah me too 👍🏻
Great stuff! i have noticed (not just on this channel) that alot of the Bike mechanics dont use power tools. i use my 1/4 and 3/8 impact to remove nuts and bolts , speeds things up immensly. not sure why bike garages dont use them ..as time is money ? Going to be interested see results on track
Not sure on that.. maybe the way there are trained.. I’ll keep an eye on TV for the motogp/wsbk/bsb mechanics and see what use 👍🏻
@@hypermotardking ruclips.net/video/Oz2Tn_uAjgc/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/gm1yPMqRWoc/видео.html
this is what i use, is my most used tool (no jokes please :)
Just got my Hyper SP and I am almost exactly your weight (Light). Straight off--it seems I'm not seeing enough sag with rider--forks are at about 38mm with me on it. I think I heard him say 40-45mm--but I didn't hear a rear number? Did your guy here set those and to what loaded sag amounts? Did you go for the lighter rear spring yet? Also seems a good move. Thanks for all these videos! The Hyper source!
Yes lighter 90nm spring - this was a track setup as it was pogo’ing through corners/change of direction. This 1st video (in description) has the setting when I first got the bike: ruclips.net/video/CjkrhQasbaI/видео.html
what van were you using? I'm after one for my 22 to take to the track. interesting video, but I can't get the whole suspension rebound or preload stuff. and I did my apprenticeship for LVBR.
Its a Ford 8-Seater Tourneo.. best Van i’ve had. Suspension setup is tricky and I’d always pay the upfront money to get someone to set it up and then tweak it depending on riding conditions..
very interesting, thanks for sharing, one question, at the rear you have changed the original spring from 180mm-100nm to 170mm-90nm, but at the front apart from raising the fork legs a bit on the triple clamp, have you done anything else? softer or shorter springs, less oil?, thanks
reduced the oil in the front forks so there is less travel
@@hypermotardking Thank you so much, do you remember how much oil they removed?
P.S. What is your weight for which you have decided to "soften" suspensions?
@@magirusmagirus8045 im
about 80kg in gear.. and approx 25ml
@@hypermotardking thx again, one more question, with the lowering in height and softening of the suspension, could it be that dynamically you have achieved an even more agile and slightly less stable motorcycle?
@@magirusmagirus8045 Definately more agile and to me its not unstable. I made all these changes for Track riding as the bike was horrible when changing direction and loading/unloading the suspension. I started with stock oem factory setting and slowly modified till it was perfect for my high corner speed and late late braking technique to get faster laptimes. I’ve kept these settings for road riding too
If you don't mind me asking, how much do you weigh? I'm 195 and my 2020 feels pretty damn good with stock springs, although I did have to tweak all the settings.
I’m 170lbs with my gear.. the bike clearly isnt designed for us small people 😂
@@hypermotardking Got it. Strange, usually Ducatis are sprung for smaller people.
@@hypermotardking you are a hobbit
Just wondering, why did you get the SP version if you want something more comfy and plush on the road? That suspension is designed to be stiff it’s a performance suspension, not a street suspension.
Regardsless of the bike/version I always have my bike suspension tuned for our shitty bumpy uk roads and as I do alot of track days the ohlins helps ele its another £2K on Ktech or BiTurbo
@@hypermotardking I agree. That’s always a good idea. But you seem to not be happy with this firmness of it. Not sure how much track time you spent, but this design is for the track is meant to be firm. It might not be comfortable like you’re maybe used to, but it will handle better.
@@daytonasayswhat9333 check out my track videos.. got about 12 track days on my channel - on our UK tracks we have elevation, camber, blind crests so the direction change/load/unload really unsettles the Hyper on track when stiff.. so softening it allows the suspension to react and absorb instead of pogo
What kind of van is that you use to transport? Seems to work perfectly. 🤙🏽
Its a ford tourneo.. 8-seater where i can remove them when i want
Will those forks get full travel, or are they designed to stop traveling a certain distance from the top of the stantion (bottom)?
They won’t get full travel.. they designed to stop at a certain distnce
@@hypermotardking Dis they tell you that the distance number? (I think I’m buying one this weekend and would love help setting it up.)
@@daytonasayswhat9333 Sorry mate I don’t. By all means you should be able to drop sw suspension an email, mention hypermotardking and he might remember 👍🏻
Hi what vehicle do you transport your bike in?
Ford Tourneo 8-seater van
Question on this service. Was the SP and Ohlins worth it? Would the base model have been softer from factory?
Base model is Probably softer.. but the base model has cast wheels, the forged Marchesini are really light and easy £2K to buy 2nd hand - I’d buy the SP everytime.
Another “worth it” question on RUclips.
If you don’t mind me asking, how much did a service like that cost? I need to find a place like that around me over here in the states.
The work and labour that was done in the video cost £230 for approx 2.5hrs including cost of the new spring 👍🏻
@@hypermotardking That seems really good value for what you got.
This lowered the bike too ?
@@Lua_master925 No.. not really - just softened it
I had to take everything out to 0 on my bike I'm 230 pounds fully geared up.
Set the sag in the rear at 55 and 45 in the front I'm only 4 clicks in on the compression on the front fork 3 clicks on the rear and it's finally riding better. Definitely track bike suspension out of the factory No good for the terrible roads we have to ride on here in California.
Playing with settings before helped.. but im 170lbs with gear and its just rock hard - needed this change for us smaller riders
@@hypermotardkingso you went from a 100 rear to a 90?
@@daytonasayswhat9333yes correct… it gve me more adjustability
Why not change the fork oil while it's apart? smh
I asked that.. being a new bike with 1300 miles it didn’t need it - it also adds another 4 hours time to complete and I have more track days to do - so will wait till end of season to do it now that I know how to remove them myself 👍🏻
@@hypermotardking Awesome!!!! Killer bike. Did he say that you need to rebuild the rear shock 1-2 times a year if your tracking? Thanks
@@josephfelice601 For the proper racer doing a trackday/race every 2 weeks then yes they need a service once or twice a year
Damm..leaving the brake calipers hanging like that isnt very professional 😂
I’m no mechanic..
@@hypermotardking I know, they are!
They should have set your sag before you rode off.
They had all my previous settings from before - this was my second visit to SW Suspension 👍🏻
Ahhh man!!! Sexy bike!!! 🤤🤤
Thanks
So OHLINS spent millions of £ on development, fitting a front fork with x amount of stroke / travel. But the local suspension guru removes travel , fits the wrong length springs & a few spacers . And your happy now. Even worse gour happy to pay for that. NEXT VIDEO TITLE = I've binned the hypermotard!!
Well I hope not.. not all riders are the same (height/weight/skill).. SW Suspension work in BSB and WSBK.. so lets see what the next video brings 🤷🏾♂️
Generic OEM set up vs custom set up tailored just for you. What do you think would be best? I’ll take the custom set up every time thanks.
@@LexyISF generic set up tested by many top riders vs custom set tested by single person in a back street garage. Hmmmmm let me think
@@nialbarnsley4108 doesn’t matter how many top riders OEM uses, it’s not set up for you….. 🙄
@@LexyISF that's your opinion. Two riders , same bike same weight not same suspension set up. You agree!! Therefore it wouldn't matter if it was OEM set up or back street specialist set up. You agree!! Therefore in my opinion many riders input (oem) is better than single person set up / opinion ( back street)