Doctor Who: The Power of the Doctor - REVIEW
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You know one thing I've barely seen anyone discuss? If Ashad's a clone in this story, it means the Master cloned his human body, converted it into a Cyberman, then took the time to corrode and wreck the Cyber suit so it would look exactly like the original Ashad.
Yeah, I was wondering about that...Let alone WHY Ashad would work with the Master anyway (although mind control works there, I guess). At this point, I just handwave this away, like when Jason regenerated into his body...complete with hockey mask, ripped clothes and machete! Where'd all that come from?? Oh, who cares, it's Iconic!
If the doctor's daughter can come out fully clothed then anything is possible.
maybe it was more like a transporter clone from Star Trek, just comes out as an exact copy, clothes and gadgets and all
@@HandofOmega The Master does have a habit of going to over-elaborate lengths.
@@MrThorfan64 Like the Rani said, he'd get dizzy if he tried to walk in a straight line, LOL!
33:22 "And I see the Doctor has taken the Kingdom Hearts approach to emotional conversations, and brings ice cream". Best line of the whole review.
He needed to be Rasputin so he could dance to Ra Ra Rasputin, I honestly don't need another reason than that 😂
The Master does enjoy his ridiculously over-elaborate plans. His whole plan to become PM is ridiculously complicated when you think about it, when he could have just invaded with his army of billions of flying cyborg globes. And if he wanted to be PM he could have just won a leadership contest.
Rasputin being a time lord honestly makes too much sense within historical context with all the assassination attempts.
I found myself wondering when the MasterDoctor was getting in Yaz's face like that whether "I am The Doctor now" was supposed to be telling her something deeper. He certainly looks her up and down before recoiling. In the context of wanting to ruin The Doctor's legacy, it makes sense to take with him the companion who loved Thirteen.
the difference between rusty and the traitor Dalek is that rusty unwillingly became a "good" Dalek and the traitor Dalek willingly turned against the Daleks
I thought the traitor dalek was a ruse
But the Doctor wasn't necessarily distinguishing between the different kind of scenarios that could lead to a Dalek turning against its own kind. And there was also Dalek Caan who decided to screw over the Daleks and Davros after seeing all of time and stuff .
Exactly! This is something important I noticed as well
@@defrostedrobot77 I think there is a distinction as the Doctor is right, a Dalek defecting on its own without any intervention is unprecedented. Whereas previous examples there was always some kind of intervention!
I thought that as well but both the traitor Dalek and Rusty both have serious damage to their casings
I think it made sense for Yaz to leave because the story showed very well how much she had almost outgrown the Doctor. She was smart enough to recognise a new version of the Doctor won’t mean the same to her but will mean as much to someone else.
How very well put.
Gotta say, I did love her final line, I thought it really did fit well with what little of her character we did come to know (Wait, did the Doctor actually say that her HEART, singular, was full of love?? Hmm...)
She said hearts. Her accent just throws it off a bit
I did really like Dan's departure from the episode, but I do think it's funny that the near death experience is what causes him to change perspective despite having a groundhog day Dalek story only 2 stories ago.
Edit: I think it was a massive missed opportunity to not have Dan leave with Diane, as they could have easily implied that Dan began living with Diane so the whole house gag can stay in the episode without being out of touch.
Tbf he was awere it was a time loop so he was pretty confident
Chibs missed a trick with the Master's Siberian hide-out. After all, he reminds us that he'd "ingested the Cyberium", and I guess the plural of Cyberium would be... Cyberia.
Let’s all love Lain
Feel like there's one easy fix to two issues you had with this episode.
The Doctor says that there's one chance at bringing her back, but it's risky - so have Yaz be heavily injured whilst bringing The Doctor back, that way The Doctor can start to see where Dan was coming from at the beginning of the episode and tell Yaz she refuses to gamble Yaz's life any more because she loves her too dearly, they go on their ice cream date and Yaz is dropped off at Companions Anonymous.
One small rewrite that both gives The Doctor a reason to leave Yaz behind, whilst also paying off the danger of de-generating The Doctor.
Next to her being held captive, it is genuinely shocking the number of times Thirteen has been choked. I can recall four off the top of my head.
I was really hoping that we would get a Proper Body Swap Between the thirteenth doctor and the master were Jodie Whittaker would be acting like the Master.
The only reason I was thinking that they weren't doing that was because it might confuse and scare younger kids watching.
yes YESSSS.
A "body swap" storyline where the Master transfers his mind into her body and the actress now has to play the Master pretending to be the Doctor. Even though that's been done a million times, that still would've been a cool thing to see: the Master trying to convince Yaz it's still the Doctor, and Yaz getting more and more suspicious.
And maybe the Doctor is now in the Master's body and has to play the Master CORRECTLY or the Cybermen and Daleks will know and kill her immediately. So she has to find ways to look evil without actually letting the Master's army hurt anyone.
and I'm 100% stealing this from an episode of Buffy:
The Master, since he's got to keep pretending to be good as the Doctor, starts getting this crisis of conscience that ends with him reacting without thinking and saving someone's life. And when the Doctor finally comes to switch them back, he freaks out because being evil was easy before, but now that he knows what it means to be good, how can he enjoy evil again? And if he can't enjoy it anymore, then he wants to stay in her body and keep being good.
so then they have to deal with that somehow.
And on the flip side, the Doctor is faced with more and more difficult situations trying not to be evil without getting herself killed. Until it reaches a point where she has to let someone die, because if she saves them, the Daleks will know who she is and kill her and the other person anyway, and then she won't be able to save everyone else. And this begins to destroy her value of morality because she sees it as a selfish and calculating decision, so how could she ever call herself a hero again?
We could even see some of the "Destroyer of Worlds" Doctor coming through as she falls farther into the role of the Master.
I feel like Tegan was way too upset about not seeing the Doctor for someone who left after having had enough of her travels with the Doctor.
Yaz just needed one or two more lines. I think it's heavily implied she loved Thirteen specifically the way Rose loved Ten (romantically) and knew the personality and body of Thirteen was going away. Yaz had also met the former companions which gave her a broader perspective on being a Companion. Just a couple more lines for her in the script could have clarified this. I do think Mandip's performance was great though.
Rose stuck around through 9-10, up until universes literally sperated them. Yaz just peacing out felt unbelievable to me, if it was that she's so well adjusted that she chose to leave the tardis on her own terms because she felt the next doctor wouldn't be HER doctor, they should have showed that.
Seeing Ian brought a tear to my eye the first time around
i like how you start the yaz section saying "this was her best outing as a companion" and then as you talk you come to the conclusion she still didn't do much of anything at all
I really like how they actually integrated the Timeless Child arc without actually using much dialogue for it. The AI hologram automatically accepted the Fugitive Doctor as another form of the Doctor, and acted accordingly. The Fugitive Doctor, and all other pre-Hartnell forms, are part of her now, and she can't stay around to find out the whole story, which is a very nice mirror to her actual upcoming regeneration and her final lines. Regeneration stories are hard in that people don't want their favourite Doctor to leave, and will hold it against the new Doctor. Having the Doctor actually mirror that struggle creates a sense of empathy from the writers that previous regen stories didn't really have, IMO.
Overall, I don't really care if this episode can be picked apart 1000 times, because it was honest about it. I've never watched a Doctor Who episode so clearly full of love and respect for its characters, history, cast, and crew.
I don't think it ever did something for the sake of it. He brought back Ashad only for him to be a generic Cyber-Leader, but his new death at the hands of Tegan was extremely fitting. Frankenstein's Monster being struck down by the very lightning he's using to forge his own monster.
24:04 🎶"Here he comes with a bloody big lazer..."🎶
The most glaring plothole is why the doctor allowed herself to be captured by the Daleks when she could have simply allowed them to shoot her and destroyed them with the regeneration energy and escaped. The doctor being effectively immortal makes the threat of death zero. I was hoping some of the problems of the timeless child would be addressed but as the video notes that was entirely skipped over. The use of the hologram to include various Doctors was a great idea. It was an interesting choice to honor the original series after making much of it incoherent.
"What they would have thought, and said and done, made them apart of who I am" - Thirteenth Doctor
"So what am I thinking seeing all these Cybermen?" "Adric"
"We're more than good, we're Ace!"
Something I'm surprised I haven't seen anyone talking about is the whole 'regenerating into the master thing'? It really confused me because that's not what regeneration is??? If it had been some kind of body swap machine I'd have totally gone along with it, but regeneration is just getting a new body, so even if the doctor regenerated into a body that looked like the master's body, it would still be the doctor and the doctor's personality inside, right? So why did Rasputin master collapse, and how come the doctor now looking like the master suddenly had his personality too and the knowledge about what the next steps in his plan would be???? Anyway, all that said, this was a really fun episode if you don't think too much about the plot specifics
I had those very questions and confusion. Ended up turning my brain off and just trying to enjoy the end of the era. It works much better when you don't think too much lol.
I think that the forced regeneration system has two cabins because of this point, the first for the timelord who will be regenerated and the second probably to make sure that the next incarnation can be chosen by puting the spirit of another timelord inside the head of the first
This was probably a way to put control over dangerous timelord by sending them into the body of a dying one
YES. THANK YOU. My Friend and I just looked at each other like, uhhh what?
And the whole "now i can destroy your legacy..."?? HOW? No one ever recognizes the new Doctor. Anyone who sees him will see... the Master... cosplaying as the Doctor.
If it's that simple, he could've just gone around claiming to be the Doctor and destroying civilizations then. Or just outright killed the Doctor (double tap while regenerating does the trick) and just taken her clothes!
What exactly did the whole "forced regeneration" accomplish that just KILLING HER wouldn't've?!?!?
{David Tenant voice} _WHAT?!_
12:08-13:00 Genius. Yet another brilliant Cyber-Steve and Jeff sketch with a nice a addition of Cyber-Gavin. I never get tired of seeing them.
Have you ever thought of maybe during the gap between here and the 60th anniversary specials, you might want to make a Steve and Jeff mini series? I think it’ll be really fun and you know we all love them to bits. Perhaps a compilation of all your sketches too?
I second that!
I third that! 😅
I fourth that!!!
Big Finish Cyber-Steve and Jeff box set
32:07 I think this actually makes sense, it's just one of the many things where the reasoning could be a bit more apparent than pure subtext. Yaz has realised that companions end up being left behind at some point, so when the Doctor says she wants to be alone to regenerate, Yaz realises that this *could* be it and she might never see the Doctor again. I take the "one last trip" line to be referring to one last trip with 13 specifically.
It's a bit like the scene in NoTD with 11 and River where they don't properly say goodbye, but also know they probably won't see each other again. And of course, we have no idea what future series will do, so it may be that RTD brings her back to meet 14/15.
tl;dr: I think Yaz leaving is more open-ended than people are taking it to be
Without a doubt, this was both Jodie Whittaker and Chris Chibnall’s episode. I’m so pleased they both got to go out on such a fantastic episode.
Her call for "more time" just felt like a call back to David Tennant's departure, but I genuinely hadn't thought about the meta aspect Mr. T points out here, which makes it land a lot better for me!
“American healthcare” 😂
A very well put together review of Power of the Doctor. Honest while not being bisist.
I totally again with your review and would like to thank Jodie for her time as The Doctor. I hope we see her in the 60th anniversary next year.
I’m going to miss Jodie Whittaker as The Doctor. I’ve really enjoyed the style and “atmosphere” of this era, but the writing definitely wasn’t always the best.
But this is a great finale to an era and one of the best regeneration stories in New Who. I personally prefer Time Of The Doctor but that’s all down to Matt Smith’s incredible final scene mainly.
We need a video of just Cyber-Jeff and Cyber-Steve's clips.
It's been two weeks since this story broadcast and I still can't express enough gratitude for how much it comforted me through a rough week at the time.
Really wanted to see the Cybermen and Daleks start fighting in this story. Blows my mind we have only ever seen it once in who. Would also be funny as the Daleks said the Cybermen are better at dying where now they literally are cause they can endlessly die and come back. Would have been cool to potentially see the Cybermen massacre the Daleks alittle bit
Vinder just happened to be there. Graham just happened to be there. The Rasputin master was just sleeping in the pod while doctor master was docing around. I think there was a checklist of things from previous successful episodes to tick off:
- master cloning himself, check
- daleks and cybermen on set together, check
- cybermen storming unit, check
- traitor dalek, check
- doc trapped by an unlikely alliance of enemies, check
- previous companions team up, fly the tardis and save the day, check
Stick it all in a blender and this is the result.
I wonder if this episode is crammed with original series 13 ideas that had to be abandoned because of covid. They don't all sit together particularly well, but could be great if given an episode to themselves.
It's not true that the Jo Martin doctor has a walk-on part with no purpose. It is because of her that the Cybermen are destroyed, allowing Yaz to get to the doctor. That would not have been possible for Yaz otherwise.
It's not her. It's a hologram. She's not there at all. The hologram could've probably picked any random person. Did the Cybermen even really care who they were shooting at right then?
Holo-ThirdDoctor walks in: shot by cybermen.
Holo-Dan walks in: shot by cybermen.
Holo-Jackie Tyler walks in: shot by cybermen.
🤷♀ I get that she had the added risk of "Oh she could be dangerous because she's Doctor2.0 or whatever" but, MickyTheIdiot with a giant blaster gun would be just as dangerous probably.
I fail to understand why you think that Tegan has no right to have achieved all those things in her past 40 years, by saying it has no context. It shows us that she has achieved much, including a son, which may have been inspired by her travels with the Doctor. We know a little of Ace's life from her intro to one of the Season Collection box sets.
I don't think they meant she had no right to having done those things, just that they kind of come out of nowhere. I'm a NewWhoer and have negative context on the early companions, but i'm guessing if at least some of the things she'd mentioned also been references to things from her time on Who (e. g. if she had told her Doctor that she always wanted to travel, and now she's saying all the places she's travelled, a la old-Clara), then it would've felt more relevant to the viewer.
33:24 Hey if this was the kingdom hearts approach Yaz would have ask the Doctor "who else will I have ice cream with?" while she regenerating
Why assume that RTD won't tidy up Chinball's "fugative" mess?
Jo Martin, will be back. John Simm and David Tennant, both came back for separate Moffat stories, even though they were RTD era characters
And RTD have already stated that I actually like Chibnall's lore ideas
To me this regeneration story is a good story, Just not quite as fantastic as The Parting of the Ways.
I'm really looking forward to watching this review. Always loved them since I started watching about 10 years ago, think this episode was definitely one of the stronger ones this series
Now my head cannon is all the big finish companion chronicles are just these meetings and them talking to each other lol stupid I know but it's just for me lol
The Power of The Doctor was everything that The Day of The Doctor should have been, imo. It brought back the Classic Doctors for more significant roles, and celebrated what made Doctor Who great as a whole (unlike Day which only seemed to focus on elements from the post-2005 era onwards). However, on the more negative side, it didn't feel like an ending to an era. The episode was more like an anniversary celebration with a regeneration tacked on at the end of it. After all the previous New Who Doctors bringing about their deaths by making big sacrifices, it feels wrong that 13's death happens due to her getting hit by a laser beam she could have easily dodged. While I liked the final regeneration scene, I left The Power of The Doctor feeling somewhat unfulfilled. The Chibnall era ended on a somewhat anti-climactic note, and I do wish that we'd gotten at least 2 more seasons with 13 just to flesh out her character a bit more. Besides that, I did enjoy the episode in some places
Great episode /special. I basically agree with nearly everything you said. My only real downside was yaz felt let down. It didn't feel like she was set up for what's coming next very well but it's a small gripe as I think yaz is great.
I have enjoyed chibs run overall and this was a lovely end piece . I'm dubious of tenant being back but I'm hopeful it will be good.
I'm glad someone else found the Dalek and Cybermen look of "Wtf?" as funny as I did. I've seen a lot of criticism that it's out of character or cringey, but honestly, OOC or not, it was hilarious.
where does this go into?
dalekcember, cybercember or mastercember?
Yes.
Friendly reminder that half of the universe is STILL destroyed after Flux and it's unlikely that's ever going to be picked up on again now.
Actually, the universe was fixed in the final episode of Flux series: Swarm and Azure planned to rewind time and destroy it again and again, but they didn't know about the Doctor duplicates. So, as time is rewound to before the Flux destruction, the Doctor duplicate removed the Flux (meaning none of the damage ever touched the universe - except for Earth, Sontarans, Daleks and Karvanista species, because they were in the epicenter of the final wave).
Now I'm gen curious on how you feel about Davis calling back to and cementing the destruction caused by the Flux in the recent specials!
Not me getting emotional at a REVIEW of a television episode
I think the reason why Yaz decided to leave is that she knew the doctor's was going to regerenate but she can't aceept it being the doctor, to her, 13 is the doctor and no one else in her eyes. 13 is her doctor and too see someone else saying "I'm the doctor" she doesn't know how to cope with that.
The funny thing is that if Chibnall's time had been more like this special, fun and celebrating the show, then perhaps more people would appreciate Chibnall. But because he spent more time on lore and less on story and character, I can see people glossing over the run.
Fun fact the guard on the train played by Joe Sims makes it around 30 actors that were in Broadchurch that have appeared in Dr Who/Torchwood
For me it was amazing finale. So good, giving Jodie's doctor great closure. I loved it!
Great Review! I actually love this story and I think this is a great sendoff to Jodie Whittaker as the 13th Doctor and Now with David Tennant back I want to see where they are going with this.
With the actors having to regotiate new deals for the special since it was not in the original plans I am sure some actors were not in it as much as they could be. John Bishop was actually going on tour so it makes sense he had a limited part to play.
I loved it!
Can't wait to see what's in store for next year
Incredible review, as always! And all hail the return of Cyber Jeff :)
Good review😊, especially the cyber-steve bit😄
"fun and funny" to be honest I watched the power of the doctor and it was drivel. The worst part being how regeneration was treated so cheaply, as a consequence the entire story had no stakes for the doctor.
What do you mean by 'cheaply'
@@tTaseric That regeneration has no consequence and is an inconvenient plot device rather then how it was treated pre-chibnall. Time lords regenerate when they die but they still experience the pain of dying and the person they are does die.
@@discoleumas6191 there's obviously something really weird with this regeneration, and I think this is at least in part a choice
The returns of Tennant and the way 13th seems to not experience pain, for me it will be explained in the 60th anniversary specials
To be honest I really liked the CyberMasters and I hope they return again in the future for a 3rd time but sadly I doubt it. I also didn't even notice that the Power of the Doctor only had 2 CyberMasters with the Time Lord headdress (The Leader with the Gold and Subordinate with the Black and the others with normal side handles).
Always nice to have doctor who reviews that are well meaning and balanced instead of...yknow...THOSE guys
What gave me s smile is the tune that the Master plays on the 2nd Doctor's recorder, as it is the same tune Patrick Troughton played in the Web of Fear.
... "The Skye Boat Song"
@@ftumschk Over the sea to skye...
Great review, been waiting for your one
I think the master left that device in unit hq the same way he did stuff in Curse of Fatal Death
*watching before this gets Content ID’d!! 🎉*
wounderful review mate think about it this way now all 3 of the new doctor who showrunners will have had the opportunity to write/pen specials that celabrate the shows history and the message weather its the frinds we make becuse of the show or that we learn never to be cruel or cowardly becuse of the doctor or what ever RTD wants to do in the 60th anniversary i just think its fair they all got to show love to a show that means a lot to all of them weather you like them or not
I feel like this episode should be titled "legacy of the doctor"
But it is a riff on Power of the Daleks
I just do not get what you see in this era or Whittaker’s performance. Everything about it was random and poorly structured. Chibnall is a poor craftsman
Fun fact, This is NOT Kates first time on-board the TARDIS, our first seeing her on board yes, but, hotels did the Doctor get her and Claire back home at the end of the Vanquishers... a Chis Chibnall story too
I think it was emphatized because it's the first time the doctor let her in by choice and not because she need to bring her back. The doctor choose to make her a teue companion at this point and not a passenger who needs help
@@Nicolas-lz6pg No, but doesn't she make a comment about "it's really bigger" or something?
I think it's just another case of "let's totally ignore any history of this show and do what we want." 😩
8:19-8:52 Chris Chibnall, the modern William Moulton Marsdon confirmed.
Well thought out review. I enjoyed this episode, farewell Doctor 13.
Did anyone notice the Sarah Janes chair is empty
Loved Cyber Jeff, Cyber Steve, Gavin, and Also Steve
Brilliant video! I love this episode! Thought I did find it’s very depressing how the episode is about learning to move on and embrace the Change…. Only for David Tennant To Return!
I think the returns of Tennant will emphatize the idea of moving on
Right after the regeneration he seems to knows it's not normal for him to be here and, in my opinion, the 60th anniversary will just explain why and let this doctor, who was not ready to regenerate at his end, accept it and move on, probably with a callback to 10th ending line like "Now I'm ready to go"
whether or not this episode is good is complete subjective. People should learn that everyone is entitled to their opinion.
You're absolutely right. However, people do enjoy sharing those opinions. Otherwise what's the point in having them, no? So long as we each respect each others'.
Come on if you don’t think the daleks are at the centre of everything then you’ve been living under a rock for the past 60 years
Well perhaps the hologram went on some adventures
i still don't understand why they keep putting The Cybermen in the same episode as the Master
13:35 I did love this insult exchange, they seemed so weak and just for the sake of callbacks 😂 v funny
I absolutely despised the the TARDIS interior during Jodies run...it always turned me off everytime a scene took place in it...Couldn't concentrate on anything being said! Ugh
13:53 nice to see you again
To me, there are no negatives about this special. It was perfect and very emotional. When #13 regen'd, I couldn't believe she was gone. I'll miss her for sure, but I'm glad to see David's #10 back with the prospect of Ncuti taking over in 2024
Vinder at least gave Yaz someone to talk to while the doctor is semi absent.
Wait did Janet fielding say I've done cooze?
Why do they have to make the text *quite* so big? Like, it's a location not a film title, calm down a bit with the huge bold text.
3:11 Jacob Anderson Fanclub!
I wonder what the Master would have done if the Cybermasters did actually shoot and kill The Doctor
“There’s always one. Has to be different”
And my head has just exploded 💥
Not to bring the mood down, but I think you forgot to give my friend Maria Bergman a shoutout when reading the Patreons. She is a Patreon of yours.
Rewatching this episode it feels like it was written by AI or something. The way characters and plot threads come and go away with no permanence and it follows kind of a strange fever dream logic.
I like The Power of the Doctor
Great review! Loved the cyberman gag, was fantastic as usual, and so was the episode! 😁
Hi
Mr. Tardis, do you know when this special will be on HBOMax in the States?
Doctor Who is moving to Disney+. Why does Disney have to own EVERYTHING??!!
My summary: this is a chibnall story.
A chibnall story that makes my inner fan happy, but still a chibnall story
Watched it on patreon, but here's one for the algorithm
It's a good regeneration story. Really good. I could follow it fairly well. Great visuals. Love all the messages from the companions. A very under rated period of doctor who. A great send off for jodie.
Two problems with the Master's "Plan": Is this actually the Doctor's mind "regenerated" into his, complete with memories? Or did he just transfer his mind into her body? If he can foresee everything withthe Cyberium, why does Yaz consistently surprise him? Also: This is a LOT of effort into doing something that he could simply do by capturing the Doctor, dressing up in his Doc Cosplay and doing evil in his own TARDIS (which we see here can be made to look like a police box)...*what's the real difference?* Hell, he doesn't even NEED to put the Doctor out of action, the universe of time and space is so big, he could do evil in her name for centuries before she realized what was going on!
He did say this is the day you die to the doctor and that he wanted to wipe her from existence.
@@booradley8895 Hearing that in the trailer, I thought it was about what Time had prophesized, about how she was going to die without regeneration or soemthing like that...guess we'll never know what that was all about now!
THANK YOU. Yes, exactly! How did that accomplish anything he couldn't have done by just killing her (i'm ignoring any Timeless nonsense here - double tap while regenerating would kill her just fine).
#TeamCyberJeff4Life
The character Chibnall created Who Need a Big Finish Boxset!!!
Can someone let me know the name of the Segun Akinola piece with the kind of clapping going on in the background? It sounds so good. It's around 29 minutes in
@@DrWhoFanJ haha easy mistake. I meant the piece of background music played before rasputin
I’m gonna say it this episode did more service to doctor who then the 50th did.
Comment for the algorithm
I'm so glad that Jodie got such a great episode to go out on. I've liked the era myself but I knew going in that this would have to be one of her best to solidify Thirteen's run. It's a bit like Androzani in a way where an imperfect era gets a REALLY strong end (not as good as Androzani, just a similar sensation). Easily the best regeneration episode since Parting of the Ways.