Smoother animation ≠ Better animation [AI ENHANCED]
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the amount of people who just straight up don't understand the point of this video is absolutely staggering.
HUGE thanks to Doggybag, Dangrips, Hyojin, and Villa for help with the animation.
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Thanks to Shina for the Appeal painting also
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Trigger warning for loud sounds towards the end of the vid.
This was entirely edited, and was supposed to be exported, in 48fps, not 50. Funny thing is, Premiere simply doesn't allow custom frame rates in its export window, despite supporting it as a sequence setting. I could have exported the Premiere file into After Effects and added the sequence to the render cue, but I couldn't because AE threw me an error every time I tried. That, combined with the legitimately unbelievable amount of bugs and errors and crashes left me feeling so exhausted and numb that I ultimately decided it was worth sacrificing one 25th of a second's worth of timing here and there. If you catch any editing errors, that'd be why. Oh well!!
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Chapters:
00:00 - Intro
1:27 - Laying the Groundwork
4:32 - Ad break
5:55 - Timing and Easing
9:52 - Smear Frames But Worse™
11:11 - Wrong Tool for the Wrong Job
13:58 - Outro
Animation used (in order of appearance):
Tom and Jerry
Pixel Art (various)
Cat walk ( / cat_walk_cycle_done_fo... )
Cowboy Bebop
Mulan
Persona 4
300FPS Bowser in cat suit
Spirit (Roughs by James Baxter)
Devilman Crybaby
A Cat in Paris
Wire by Worthikids
Spiderverse
DBZ Fighterz
ParaNorman
Spongebob
Daffodil 3 by Smallbu
Overwatch
Moonlight Fox by Smallbu
JoJo Part 5
XCOM 2
Cafouillage by Tom Law
PokeAwesome
Planet Panic
TMNT 'Don VS Ralph'
Klaus (Lineart by James Baxter)
El Dorado
Naruto
1Samurai Jack Season 5
Dead Leaves
Keep Your Hands off Eizouken
Meet Arnold (Cacani Demo)
'Float' by Pixar
Music used (in order of appearance):
Les Cafes De Paris - Joe E Lee
Apple Kid's Theme - Earthbound
Let the Game Begin! - SiIvaGunner
Noisy Notebook D - Snipperclips
Stage Clear - Wii Play Motion
Good Evening Bossa - Riverworn
Buy Something, Will Ya!? - Earthbound
Stamp Mode - Snipperclips
Apotos (Night) - Sonic Unleashed
Quilty Court - Kirby's Extra Epic Yarn
Just One More Night With You - Thiago
5PM - Animal Crossing New Leaf
Trophy Gallery - Super Smash Bros. Brawl
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Fantastic rant, I love it! And you're absolutely right. I love how you underline the intent of the artist. Those who would seek to replace artists with machine learning and AI clearly don't understand what art is for. Replace stuff that people don't want to do, or can't do. But people get joy (and their livelihood) from creating art, and they want to do it. It's one of the things that make us human. I'm no Luddite, and I love using new tools to create my animation. But when it starts to encroach upon the fulfillment that I get from creating, then no thanks! You might argue that this is just interpolation and chill out. But my response to that is just wait, this is just getting started.
Damn, was not expecting this guy to comment!
jams
Thanks so much for sharing your perspective! And for commenting at all lol. You're an inspiration
I love you James Baxter
!!!! JAMES BAXTER
I love how the title has "[4K 60FPS]" just so the algorithm targets the people who watch those kinds of videos.
Defeating the computer at its own game!
And then the video is capped at 50 fps looool
And I assumed it worked because rn it has 4.7 million views
@@BertoPlease That makes no sense, is he in the UK?
@@BertoPlease It's at 50 cause its the double of 24. It's a joke (maybe), plus he animated his stuff at the correct framerate while being able to show the interpolated footage as well.
As an animator who loves doing in-betweens, smudges, action choreography, and impact frames...
Yes, I also find it very insulting.
Oooo Sad-ist :o
>Dream
lol
Oh hi I was not expecting to see you here :'D
My putting my comment here
you don't need to tell us that you do action choreography. that's literaly all your recent uploads(i meant that in a nice way :) )
Low FPS animation has a very nice, cartoony charm to it.
High FPS animation gives off energy of something that has been worked hard on, and should be taken seriously.
Low FPS animations that have had their FPS boosted by an AI make me feel like I am experiencing eyeball cancer.
from what i've seen, there's this one guy called Neobrane who does these kinds of things, but I'm assuming he does some manual work to make it *actually look good*, and not be a blurry mess
Interpolated animation is like picking up a good-looking strawberry, and when you bite into it, it's uncomfortably soggy.
Why is this true
What a perfect description of those few seconds realizing "oh this feels- eeuegh"
no pls that's so disgusting 😭
As a translator, I vibe with this video whenever someone asks me why I ask money for something Google Translate does for free.
Lol, anyone who thinks Google Translate is accurate definitely isn't fluent in a second language.
@@christopherklute1606 aaaaand that's why I'm making an effort to learn Japanese! Though, sometimes a robotic translation works too- if applied right.
@@user-im9zp4yp9x Yeah... and it's not going to be Google Translate, it's going to be commercial AI-based translators trained on a specific domains such as "computer science books" or "Shakespeare".
@@clray123 The reason Google translate doesnt work as well as it needs to for human standards is because of the model it uses to translate. They use transformer models, which are giant networks of what are called attention matrices to try to be able to understand language and especially context. And with hundreds of millions of datapoints and months of computation time spent training on the most powerful supercomputers in the world these models can only get somewhat close to being accurate. And these models are approaching a limit as to how good they can be, as in order to increase accuracy for Google translates model by 0.15%, the amount of data used must be doubled. They're experiencing diminishing returns. That's because they dont model language the way that language actually exists, the way that humans and linguists have been modeling language for thousands of years - by turning sentences into dependency trees. Using dependency trees and starting from a linguistic standpoint rather than a computational standpoint to model language the way humans understand it is the way to go to create a translation model that can exceed the current models capabilities with far less time, data, and resources.
Absolutely XD
“ I don’t like watching an animation..that’s got vaseline all over it”
Why does that make so much sense
@toijg avnnr never stop
Keep going
Hijacking this comment to warn people it's VERY loud at 14:07. Headphone users beware
I feel ya. I feel ya SO MUCH.
Also, I got you to 666 likes.
Exactly. Vaseline is for eating, not video footage
@@condensed_sam finally, I can now ascend
2 years later and people still can’t accept how bad interpolation is
Ok like, to clarify, for 2D animation it's awful, but it's just a common thing in 3D, but in that it's all motion paths and Inverse Kinematics. However, that doesn't mean interpolation isnt a technical factor in how it works.
What I think is bad, is the loss of intention. 2D animation is all about each frame being intentional, an algorithm is non-intentional. It does not know technique or art direction. It is simply trying to replicate something, often poorly. The lack of intention is the problem, and obviously, that right goes to the artist, not someone else to hash on later. It was not done that way intentionally, so dont fuck with it.
@@KaneyoriHK i agree with this entirely, interpolation really only can work in 3D in an animation sense seeing as it's MADE to work with 3D alongside live action
@@FossyPickles Exactly. Like, just cause I use it for assisting in my animation, which it's done to calculate the motion of an object and ISNT done in post, doesnt automatically make me a bad artist. It's me using it with actual intent, not like these other greedy fellas who are just lying their way to fame
We all accept it's bad, but also accept that 60 fps would be much better than 24 fps, if done right.
@@VanFire87 60 fps is only better if it was *intended* to be animated that way, that and 60 wouldn’t be better, because believe it or not, higher fps ≠ better animation
This video aged like fine wine.
let's appreciate the full lip sync for the whole video
I don't even animate, and I cry for his hands (and sanity) cause of it lol
I mean, it sure helped prove his point. Also I enjoy your content and would like to compliment how good your work/videos are.
THIS
I appreciate the whole video Noodle makes very good videos and with each video he not only grows his funny but also his animations even if he was assisted by other animators
i'm not sure but i think sometimes animators reuse frames or create their own custom "lip libraries" for all common sounds to save on time. I can imagine that this dude would just have to load an image for each mouth frame and that's it, though i'm no animator.
My favorite thing is when someone posts a fucking ruined, 60fps anime fight scene where ALL the punches have zero fucking weight to them
Same chief
How right Circle is about something directly scales with the amount of times he says "fuck"
He uses fuck twice, and he's extremely correct, so the rule proves itself.
I've elected to call this phonomonon the "Circle fuck law"
Not to mention Anime OPs you can only find at 60 fps on RUclips yikes
OOO
The one punch man fights.......
This guy killed an entire trend by himself, epic.
I wish
but they're still doing that shit
@@zuraorokamono204 yea but it WAY less popular than it was back then. AI is still being used by ignorants that want to replace human effort but not in this specific way
+.
with this comment i understand whats going on.
its kinda "ai"phobia...
@@yalmanmfp it's not a phobia, it's disgust
I genuinely believe that AI has a place in art, but it's no more than a tool to be used by artists themselves who already have a set vision
it can be useful in the right hands, but letting it take charge of the entire creative process is like building a house solely out of hammers, even if it manages to stand I wouldn't let my worst enemy live there
and using it to force animations into the wrong configuration, like 60fps, is like throwing said hammers at a pre-built house, with no concern for the horrible quality and thinking the result makes you an engineer
that's why most of it feels like the same repetitive, glitchy, overly greasy, nonsensical crap
the technology is impressive, but 99% of people have no idea how to use it
You were ahead of the times with this video. Ai became such a massive topic of conversation within the past year, I thought this video came out in 2023. Fantastic rants/analysis.
"60fps is good, when the animator intends it"
never have i agreed with something so much
I agree to a certain point. With higher HRz in media and technology it's often jaring for me to watch something old at 12 - 24 frames. It looks stuttery when watching something that was made for 60fps or higher then watching something that's old. Almost like bad stop motion at times. Dragon Prince on Netflix was like that for me even if people liked it, I couldn't get into it. But I do agree that an AI doing inbetweens is an inaccurate way to fix this.
@@Arkken most anime are done in 24 fps and it doesn't look jarring you sound like someone who wants to play a game in 144hz on a 60hz monitor
Yeah, Agree
@@takashimizutani1808 Maybe not to you, but it does to me. Also 60 fps is pretty standard. Going above that is extra.
@@Arkken
Games fixed at 30 FPS: hi, how are ya?
when musical artists get nightcore versions of their song
Lmao
i hate nightcore, i feel it like an insult
@Aaron Hutton agreed
What is nightcore
I dUnNo, iT SoUnDs BeTtEr tO Me...
As a half-gamer half-artist, I can confirm the pain, and the fact literally only gamers care.
I mean, the whole thing can be viewed differently through the lens of a 3D artist. Some things Do look better in a higher framerate, however, it's not all black and white.
The real issue is just it's not intended for these to be at higher frames. Some just hop on a trend to try and get views. It's all such a joke
Same
Gamers are the new "I can't function without my coffee" people.
And not even all gamers. I've heard some people appreciate details like Monster Hunter games (at least in the PSP days) freezing animations for a frame or two when you hit a monster with a chonky weapon so you feel the impact more.
I think the people who only care about blindly maximizing framerates are the ones who need (and understand) them the least because most of what they play is more of a cinematic experience instead of something with super tight input timing. The reason gaming consoles have been running with 30fps by default for so long is because the console target audience doesn't really care that much, and games where it actually matters like fighting or racing games were just running at 60 anyway.
Oh my god this video is two years old... and here I thought it was brand new because (unfortunately) the thing is still going on... probably even got worse.
Still a great vid - still on point after 2 years.
Cheers!
I watched it when it aired and I can't believe it's been 3 years
Horror idea: everything is normally animated at 24 fps, but the monster is animated with an alternating 12/48 frames.
Honestly it would be a good way to make things look unnatural. Kind of like how all the mechanical bits in Treasure Planet were CGI and anything organic was hand drawn
See, this is a good use for it
If I ever make a creature from beyond our dimensional perspective, like an angel or eldritch being I'll try that out. I expect it will portray well
good idea!
If we ever get another Volume of Love, Death & Robots, that should be used in an episode.
big respect for the fact that he literally has "ad break" as a chapter and lets you easily skip it
But why would you. He did such a great job animating it
AD IS AD!!!
@@nerdoftheseasonnwibani2456 see but skipping the ad is not cool
I didn't even notice it cause sponsored block but that was very cool of him.
@@outofideasexe i don't have to skip the ad the computer does it for me. since i installed a plugin. /shrug.
I never knew the illusion of life was known to be the "bible of animation". It's been sitting on my parents shelf for quite a long time, glad to know its useful for all animators!
EXACTLY like animators especially for the new Spiderman movie used ai, yes, but they had to also literally FIGHT against it to get the look that they wanted.
"heres a picture of a little man, he's doing well and i'm proud of him." - I will die for him.
We should protec the little man at all cost!
LMPA Little Man Protection Agency when?
Sam
Dog: *sad noises*
I want my animation to really FEEL like it's real life and real life is garbage so it makes sense
jef
You are so brave😔😔😔😔😔🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌
this guy is onto something
you animate?
@Emmanuel Brijandez Torres Because life is pretty boring for most people, unless you have enough money and motivation to make it not boring
I think one of the worst things I'm noticing is how much of a deluge there is of anime openings with "60 FPS 4K HD" on the end because. they're ALL interpolated. I have to look for specifically the anime studio, because it is criminal how sometimes no original, un-interpolated version has been uploaded. it's all been fucked up using interpolation-
No fr and reactors and non fans who wanna check it out gets a butchered clusterfuck for their first experience.
I am not a animator
Still learning
I agree alot
AI is taking over human jobs
Animation is like emotion
But when AI do it
Its ruin the emotions
60fps Mulan: 5 mil views
The criticism: 6 mil views
Mulan's now got 6 million at the moment.
@@concept5631 this video still has 400,000 more though
@@BlueverseGacha Good.
@@concept5631 Good.
Good
As a computer scientist, the problem isn't that AI can't do animation, it's that computer scientists aren't animators.
That's why the only program made for animators actually works, I guess. They probably either took in animators or were animators themselves.
@@chrisheartman9263 well, making a toolset is different than making a program that successfully creates something out of nothing. Toolset programs only need to know ''what'' to do, whereas somewhere in an AI it also needs to know ''how'' and particularly with video ''when'' to do stuff, making it severely more complicated.
Exactly. Ai is usually never the problem, it's how it's used.
Even in software engineering, people have said at some point code will write itself. That hasn't happened (at a decent scale anyway) because someone needs to actually design a program.
Same with animation. AI can't do shit if the animators don't set a solid foundation.
Anyway you look at it, AI can just be an optional tool for animators.
@@HiddenRealm Jesus Christ bro I'm not reading that.
@@HowlGough lol
he tried to warn us
HE TRIED TO WARN USSS
I just had this recommended to me.
I am one of those gamers you mentioned, but I can 100% relate to how you feel because I grew up gaming at 60FPS. (Well, 50 because I’m Australian but that’s another can of worms.)
60FPS combined with simple gameplay resulted in VERY precise controls. The push for 30FPS because “It looks better now!” at the cost of control infuriates me to no end! And there are even “remasters” of games like Tales Of Symphonia that half the framerate!
What I’m saying is, the next time you get one of these gamer types saying “This would look better at 60FPS” tell them that’s like you telling them their game would look better at 12FPS.
They’ll probably have an aneurysm.
someone reuploaded my animation but with 60fps and got 1 million views before any of my videos did T-T pa i n
P a i n
Also, good to see ya here!
Copy strike it
SUE THEM
Give that vid a copyright strike then!
“This whole shot is interpolated did you even notice”
I’m proud of immediately noticing
same my first thought before it came up was. um.. tf.
Yeah, same, I was paying close attention to the details of this dude's animation since the moment I clicked on the video. I saw the interpolated shot and I was like "YUP! THAT'S THE SHITTY ONE!"
And that’s the thing, it’s not even hard to notice, especially when you know what the original looks and feel like.
I didn’t even notice lol
Same I knew something was up xD
I find that animated fight scenes are easier to read when you have less frames. Especially for scenes with a lot of stuff going on.
One of the most rewatchable videos i know. Such an interesting topic and perspective that not nearly enough are talking about. Well done.
OH MY GOD THESE ARE MY EXACT SAME THOUGHTS
I always noticed that weird smearing in between many frames of “enhanced” animations. Glad I found someone who put it into proper terms.
Deep-fried inbetweens? : D
@@AstonWildsteel yes that is the official term
I have some news: AI's like RIFE don't do this anymore, unless the frames are too different or your going past 2x
"this is 24 fps, this is 48. look close. you see the difference"
yes the difference is that turning my quality up to HD actually crashed my computer
Lol! Sorry for that
Is that actually true 😂
@@macropie45yearsago18 yes because my computer is old and sad
@@eastdakota6954 dang. Hopefully you can get a better one
@@eastdakota6954 my google crashes every time i put a video on anymore than 480p, c'mon bro come with the shit computers gang
I like to think this video was a very important part in how we appreciate animation and keyframes now
You could have just put a guy on a couch and moved his mouth, but instead you decided to fully animate gestures and detailed mouth movement. What a legend.
@toijg avnnr y
who the hell do you think he is
he’s,,, an animator
@@freebeerishere whats that supposed to mean?
@@genopie2673 that he’s very skilled at animating and genuinely enjoys it. i thought it would be obvious that he would put the extra effort in to make a video that’s engaging.
I apologize Noodle I will be better
gamers, amirite
Be better
Thank you Gamer
Did you change your name for DA MEME yo GOAT
You better be
I've seen this video more than 3 times by now, but the robot bit at the end never fails to scare the shit out of me
I like how in the end in the “robot takeover” his animation turned interpolated
My initial reaction as a not-really-an-animator was "hey I wouldn't mind" and then I realised that if I had put time into specifically animating something a certain way only for somebody else to come along and be like "hey look I iMProVeD IT" I would probably pop a blood vessel
You made my day with this comment haha
yea true
Yes, for me the biggest problem with all of that is that most of those people who interpolate OTHER'S animation, they think they are better than the animators themselves, they think they are improving this and that they are good at what they do.
they dont
its not the OmG I ImpROveD iT which annoys me, its that the animation looks like shit
@@macaronmunch793 Well, i think its a mix of both. Like the fact that people ruin the animation and still thinks they are the best and that improved the good hard work of an animator
"You KNOW it's gamers." I felt that as a gamer and animator, it's definitely the gamers.
144 FPS animation when?
i'm a gamer and fuck ai interpolation
@@hunterclouse4371 Well, in "in-game" in 3D most objects/models will move equally independent of you frame rate, unless you are talking about sprites, more or less wont change the amout of expressions.
But interpolating cartoonish games should be a crime
@@firstbits650 idk if it uses interpolation, idk shit about animation, but I do know Spyro Reignited looks much better at 120+ fps than at a fluctuating between 20-30 fps.
@@sgtjohnson49 The thing with games and their fps is that you're playing it and moving it. Games are made to be played at a higher framerate. Animation, movies, etc are made at one framerate, you can't change that. Film is 24 fps, usually no more, no less. Games are interactive pieces where things are run in an engine that plays frames.
That was the best 14 minutes of the week. Engaging, and explains things in a way that is just-enough-tech-but-not-brain-breaking. Well done.
The humour bits got me too, especially paying off the friend for the Honey ad.
13/10 frames of review goodness.
Oh boy, I bet Noods has some CHOICE words about Sora.
Even more laughable is when people upload '60FPS videos' where they didn't even use AI interpolation.
They just changed the framerate in the render settings :D
WELCOME TO THE ANIMATION ZONE
I’m giving them the benefit of the doubt and saying they are smart and are covering up the fact that they are stealing an animation for views while doing nothing, which is horrible
Love your Chanel :)
Execution by excessive framerate.
Animation is my passion
"but it's smoother!" yeah, well, so's my brain.
self burn!! ooh those are rare!
@@procrastinatorqueen pfft, the only thing burning around here are my eyes, when I see my hideous face in the mirror.
@@basedbattledroid3507 bro... u good?
@@basedbattledroid3507 that's some pink guy shit right there
jesus christ dude, this was your first video I watched and you almost killed me in the outro part '-'. loved the contet btw XD.
Same here
Whoa! That shot at 9:41 is so smooth, I can feel the skill of the animator
When I began animating a lot of my friends (including me) thought that more frames and drawings made better animation. But in almost every case, more frames just loses clarity and weight that the animation had before. If you're a capable animator, you can make shit look good with 2-3 drawings, depending on the motion. I don't know why people get obsessed with everything being 60fps
First furry
cuz *frames*
Beginning to realize this as I learn and experiment with 3D animation
amen🙌
The only channel I find to be much better in 60fps is kurzgesagt.
THANK YOU NOODLE
Go back into the basement and make more animation also be safe
Im the 15 like
@@jairus2008 ok
Hey juny
noodles
bro I was relaxing, kind of zoning out near the end of your vid, and you scared me so hard I think I saw a glimpse of the 4th dimension
I hate that it’s sometimes easier to find anime openings on YT at 60 fps rather than the original, it ALWAYS looks worse and you can tell immediately
This is the animators equivalent to the whole “fixed your art” shit
@Double-Edge man shut up
Right??
@Double-Edge found the Twitter user
@Double-Edge I think we know what side you're on.
@Double-Edge Cutting yourself on those Double Edges a bit much?
The anamorphs cover was just a perfect analogy.
Agreed
Ikr lol
??
I still have fond memories (aka: sick twisted nightmares) from reading the animorphs book series
Umami I love you and interface keep up the good work
The interpolated shot of you had no magic, i like ur little janky movements :(
Its imperfect and nice :3
bro, i was starting to read the comments at 14:03 because the video was ending, i jumped screaming out of the chair, highly recommend would watch again :)
dude somewhat off topic but this video looks so goddam buttery smooth and ur lip syncing is actually fantastic
zark I love you
hey zark, love ur animations
hehe sheep man hehe
You're a pretty awesome sheep.
Hey it's that guy who animated that gumball spider thing
“And you know it’s gamers”
I have never been so offended by something I a hundred percent agree with
Specifically it's gamers who don't understand there's a time and place for maximizing frames. :L
Yeah we really need to learn that high frame rates only really matter in games
I just don't get the obsession, but then I largely can't tell the difference and when I can the higher ones are jarring to look at.
But then I grew up on CRT TVs and prefer indie titles ( potato computers most my life and the rise of microtransactions), but outside that field most media isn't meant to go that frame rate. I basically have next to no experience with it so it looks like something is playing wrong when I do see it.
Leaving things as the creators intended is generally how I like things anyway, the only real exceptions being if you can't get it that way without spending an arm and a leg or it's not possible. Niether really applying to this.
Probably PC gamers to be more specific
I’m on Xbox one X I run 120 FPS with my monitor and if I ever switch it down to 60 FPS which I have a few times by accident it feels like your lagging almost or something is just off
Best transition to sponsorship I've seen lol. "that's expensive" *honey sponsorship* perfection
After watching this video I went to amazon and bought the animation tips book, thanks for the recommendation. Take a sub.
“Enhancing” animations to 60 fps is like making van gogh The Starry Night realistic
To be fair, parodies of starry night are common and accepted
yeS EXACTLY
I agree
@@TeleportRush it’s a whole genre I guess
@@TeleportRush Then I would rephrase the comment as " 'Enhancing' animations to 60fps is like putting an instagram filter on Van Gogh's Starry Night to make it 'aesthetic'."
This is the visual equivalent of “8D audio” remixes for songs where they slap random auto pan filters and reverb on an already mastered song completely ruining it
People really think they can make a thing, that was already fixed, improved multiple times and then released, better by adding a few effects or stuff, lol
I like 8d audio for the sole affect of me being in an empty room or the song playing from a far place, but I love the original more.
Oh, I understand now.
Omg so true
As a synesthete with enough damn spatial-acoustic processing BS going on to act like some kind of crazy-ass sonar and low-definition ultrasound just by existing near shit that isn't even making noise (why can I hear the structure of this filing cabinet?! Aaaaa) and go on magical journeys of instrument textures or even synth-induced psychedelic MIND MELT (the shit KNOWER did to "Die Right Now" is some kind of Eldritch, Escherian kaleidoscope of acoustic fake-outs wtf?) with an Audeze Mobius and well-mixed songs?
FUCK 8D AUDIO.
... While intended to be humorous, none of this is facetious. Stupid fucking bat ears don't even process words that well. Whee sensory processing disorder. At least we can have fun with it!!!
... Why did those vocals sound like they tasted sweet....?????????
Why do people think going “this video suck” is going to do anything to change noodle’s mind
people who think AI rendering is better then hand drawn rendering like their modern houses white and square
I thought I was just being an old man when I thought interpolated animation looks like ass. Glad I'm not alone.
Same
Yeah same I rather have Low frame When Watch old animation? wait what?
@@aidendoesado3624
Neither do me sorry I wake 24 my brain is not in a good state so you see something I don't even know what I'm doing.
I mean I was awake for 24 hour so yeah that.
When I saw it on twitter I thought "It looks weird, funny but weird" then it just went worse
Can't wait for a madlad to turn this whole video into 60FPS
i'm doing it lol
@@harshsrivastava9570 evil
@@harshsrivastava9570 you son of a~
sus
On it
That was the best segue into a sponsorship that I’ve ever seen
You have forever ruined my eyes and now i cannot shut up about frame rates
Thank you noodle
As a gamer and an animation fan, I hate when people go, “hurr durr more frames”
Animation is an art form.
but bigger number = better
As gamer, bigger number when frames be bad news bears, because lag
I usually don't play on 60 frames even on my pc that can sure as shit handle it. I just don't feel a need for it. So I don't understand the constant push for more frames, and how "anything less than 60 is lazy garbage". Like unless you're paying at a competitive level in some game that's very reaction intensive, those extra frames don't do anything but look kinda pretty. Sometimes.
@@PotatoKingMike it just feels better, like a played a modded version of mario 64 to run at 60 fps and feelt better, now when i play the OG mario 64 it feels wrong, it feels laggier
@@alexbluer Frame count doesn't have anything to do with lag though. In fact higher counts are more likely to induce the feeling with dropped frames if a system can't keep up with the processing requirements. If a game plays at a consistent, steady 30 fps, it's doing plenty to give you a smooth playing experience.
Finally Noodle makes a video at 50 fps, I always thought his other work looked choppy but now it's buttery smooth!!!
Pão com ovo
Wait you're real? I thought noodle made you up for a joke in his crunch video
Punk Dunk? Here? Wow
@@Black-sy7dlpau com ovo
How to....surprise an audience
Every year this video becomes more and more relevant as AI grows more and steals more
Every time I watch this video I notice the flaws in the interpolated animation more and more
That jumpscare at the end is scary, but scariest part was that he used the AI
Thank you for the warning before I watched it
@@J.L_art i got a warning and still jumped
I read this, completely forgot during the video and I got scared xD
Bro I started to read this comment then the jumps are happened lmfao still got me
@@SlyFunkyMonkey same
Personally the worst one for me is “Coraline at 60 FPS” like.....the animators of that movie did not painstakingly move little clay figurines 1/80th of an inch each frame for you to come in and decide to make it smooth
Well if they had the time then they wouldve made it smooth. He only season they didn't is because it would take 16 years or a huge budget
@@BowOneFire By doing claymation instead of cgi, they made an active choice in style. No, the only reason for the frame rate isn't time. If time was the concern, make the models on a computer instread of clay, and animate it significantly faster.
@@BowOneFire Some people find the stop motion style appealing, including Laika.
Why do you think they worked so hard make the LEGO movie look like “choppy” stop motion? Some people like the style
@@BowOneFire no they really wouldn’t
Many people love stop motion
Good to know it should be normal to hate being complimented for AI art.
Totally agreed. I like my *games* at high framerates, but not my movies and tv shows. I always called it the 'cinematic feel' but yeah, this. :D
Oooooh that’s why I look at these videos and feel awful about them! The tween choppiness is horrible
everybody gangster til the artistic integrity of the style being displayed to the viewer turns into a jackson pollock painting
Oh my god, its the Minecraft music man
2 replies 2 hours ago wait
I wasn't expecting C418 himself to be commenting on this kind of video
Literally gives me a headache
Yoo C418
imagine somebody puts this into a 60fps just to spite you
Thanks for the idea
@@Ihavetoreturnsomevideotapes are you working on it?
What if you reupload the video and just say 60fps when its just the normal video :troll:
@@Unmustache1 i'm not gonna reupload this man's hard work
@@immenseshoutmon tis was just a joke
Bro at the end I got jumpscared so hard I fell out of my chair
i had a friend who said the AI interpolated animation looked better, and i sent this to explain why it isnt. he said "dont know who that is, and the videos too long, dont care"
TikTok brain rot moment
high framerate does look good tho
not all the time tho@@dimlockfork5170
Thank god someone said it
I remember when Spiderverse came out and some people were saying that the low frame rate was to "save money" aS IF THAT'S HOW ANYTHING WORKS
WAIT PEOPLE ACTUALLY SAID THAT I didn’t watch it but even I know that’s not why there is a low frame rate
People these days have a serious case of superiority complex with any kind of knowledge. And then when faults are pointed out they double down and say they're write despite visual evidence to the contrary. Like petulant children.
I mean... the framerate did look a bit weird and choppy but it was still a kickass movie so I didn't complain
@@LowKiiSavage I think that was the point to make it look more like a comic book style
I hated watching that movie. Sped up the "artsy low fps" parts because its fucking dumb and hurts my head. Things should be 144hz not fuckin 5hz especially if its rendered on a fuckin computer. The actual movie was great but I will never watch it again.
This is the animation version of bass boosting everything
24->60: Bass boost
12->144 Bass fry ear-r*pe
Those f*cking "8D version!!!" that are just a stupid 360 pan around of the song hgnnnnnn
Nah nah, this is more like, slowing and adding reverb type of shit
never seen shit this accurate before
let's not forget about nightcore and daycore
god, why do people have no fucking taste nowadays
i love how goofy your animations look. its so much better than it being smooth
Sometimes i wish i can watch animated things one frame at a time
Same bro
Same here
This just randomly popped up into my recommended and I’m happy it did.
Same
whoa, it’s almost as if that’s exactly how recommended videos work
same
@@AfrewSpines I dont know why but this reply made me laugh. Sorry if that offends you
same here lol
Can we all take a moment to appreciate how he allowed us to skip "Ad Break" so easily.
The ad break was so good that I didn't even skip it
If you like that you should try the sponsorblock extension.
How did I get here.
i dont know what your talking about because I use ublock origin and thus don't ever see ads on
@@camazotzz they mean the honey segment
“Four is fours and so on.”
Alright, lemme make an animation in three hundred seventy twos.
i prefer two thousand seven hundred sixty-threes tbh
I prefer three million six hundred thousand eight hundred and ninety nines
8:55 Can't get enough of the swrsdcsdw movement
“And you just KNOW it’s gamers, right?”
Well now, that seems a bit rude-
“Who the fuck else cares about frame rates?”
… Actually yeah, that’s fair.
Even then, its the rainbow pcmr gamers, not your console gamer
@@R8Spike Well frame rate is really important, better frames means you can hit what you need to when you need to, doesn't matter how good your internet is, if your frame rate is off you'll be confused as how you can't hit your shots
@@itsgrey8135 NO! That's not how... jesus christ. Why are gamers like this?
@@owlflame Well, no he is partly right. More frames makes the game feel better and make it better to play, but it won’t help you with bad internet.
@@owlflame Games ≠ animation. With fast paced games, you NEED higher frame rates, or else the frames simply can't keep up with the gameplay. It's not even like the video discourages this. High frame rates in animation are only bad when it wasn't the creators intention to do that. People who make fast-paced games specifically design them for higher frame rates.
5:55 "Here's an image of a little man. He's doing very well and I'm proud of him."
Thank you I love him
Image of that little man supremacy?
@@Anotherchild_lol yes kaja, image of the little man supremacy
@@Anotherchild_lol Thank you two, I've created a sect with this, now we kickin' the -je- juice
There are some people out there:
"ITS 2021+WHY ISNT IT LIVE ACTION?!?!?"
Because animation is good, and little man doesn't need to be real to like him.
@@jimhaney6384 good
Ya know, before AI was a thing, art could be defined as whatever you wanted, as long as someone put time and effort into making it. Paintings, drawings, animations, sculptures, books, furniture, heccin nature, literally anything that a person viewed as art could fall under that category. Now, art is definitely gonna get a definition sometime soon. Not sure what it'll be, but it's gonna happen eventually.
bro taught me how to animate by being pissed.. legend
“Water boarding it in ketchup” is the single most fabulous phrase I have ever heard and I’m stealing it
Had to pause the video to laugh on that one.
The quality of this analogy is top notch
I plan to use it, as well.
"Why do you say that animation isn't good?"
Me: "It's waterboarded in ketchup."
This guy made a 15 mins animation "that probably took him ages to make" about how automating the animation industry is bad.
Respect
Hell, it isn't even the industry doing it, it's just random dorks at home who see a really smooth thing and are _amazed_ by it even though the actual movements look like trash when they're interpolated by AI
@@Platitudinous9000 Because they think more fps = better. Like, i get it especially on gaming where more fps matters, but this isn't your highly competitive ultra realistic fps games. It's fucking Tom & Jerry
Agreed if you're sincere (the quotes make it look like you're not, but not enough that I'm sure it's the case)
I would die inside if I animated something like a 5 minute video in 60fps ;-;
I was not expecting the ending to be so much more loud then the rest. So because of that it woke up my baby sister.
these straight at your face "I need money" "they need clout" type sponsors are my jam, realism at it's finest.
Feels better than the whole ad bit cus like c’mon Man U know you’re getting payed for this no need to have this unspoken pretend gam
@@AviciPerry either my reading comprehension fails me, or people just like to go off topic, the first reply was admiration. Your comment is telling me either something about ads (not in this video) or you disagree with this sponsor. At least this is what my understanding tells me. Either way makes no sense, since this channel does not pretend. Like I said these straight at your face (badly acted (on purpose bad) ads are my jam as in I agree I like them, they are honest, we, they and obviously the sponsor know what is up, when it is done so “fake” Channel need money, brand needs clout. Honest deal. Realism, opportunistic.
"here's an image of a little man, he's doing very well, and i'm proud of him."
god looking at frogs from above
yes.
just yes.
perfect 👌
amazing
espectacular
excellent
cool
nice
this video was like, lightyears ahead of its time
fuck that sponsor was one of the best I've ever seen
you may have even surpasses icecreamsandwich
They're 2 sides of the same coin
The ADHD coin
@@user-pt5cl2ro6f also I have realized they collaborated once and it was beautiful