how TV screens made watching movies worse - (2D version)
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00:00 - Intro
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6:31 - Solutions
8:49 - Modern Problems
11:40 - IMAX
15:10 - Conclusion
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Very cool that you decided to make the 2D version. Would be a shame if the original video would become unwatchable in the future, thus rendering it an example of the problem it tackles.
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That "is he behind you?" Line was alot more menacing in vr because you couldn't fully look behind you
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Agreed but I thought he'd have some funny little drawing or something behind the viewer camera so I tried to turn the camera around, or maybe a changing joke behind you. Sort of like the VR360 RVB video that has the focus be Griff and Simmons talking, but looking behind saw Blue team sneaking in and stealing the flag before taunting the two and hopping off the base.
When he said that to me I fully turned around and just stared into the black void of nothingness lol
I always thought someone was going to be staring at you outside of the cameras view like on the ceiling or something
that and the "unless..." part. having a cartoon character come up 5cm in front of you and clap his hands right in front of your eyes inspires a new kind of fear.
the fact the 2d version feels so wrong, even though i don't have a working headset and watched the vr one on my phone in a spinny chair, really rubs in the point.
Yeah it feels so cramp
No. In VR showing a 2D image is just as pointless as sitting on a meeting watching a power point on a projector. And we are not talking a nice office or anything. But a old projector pointing at a wall interfering with wall clocks and whatever else. And no AC and air is stagnant so you get a headache + unconformable seating. For a power point that is booring, pointless and as good to watch at home without having to start up a car find parking and pay for all of that... Just to watch a power point.
16:9 and 4:3 is the only screen standards. Black bars is only allowed to bridge the gap. And possibly if a movie or whatever creator know wtf they are doing and not just being a ass about refusing to use the tools available to make stuff as good as possible. 16:9, VR, 4:3. Simple as.
@@TheDiner50what is bro talking about
This artstyle is disgustingly cute. I love it. I want a plushie of the talkie person thing you made, and the fact that one probs doesn't exist makes me MAD for inexplicable, dumb reasons.
When I watched the original, I felt like I understood why something as simple as a different aspect ratio and smaller screen size can ruin a movie. But I didn't truly understand until this video released, and I compared it to the original. It's just... off. I always feel like the screen is too close, the movie theater ended up slightly distorted, and (as you said) Imax just isn't impressive viewed in 2D.
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Even though I haven't watched the VR video in VR, just in a moderately big TV PC monitor (watching from 40-ish cm away, so it takes up most of my central vision), I definitely agree.
Everything is zoomed in, so it feels too close even though it's just bigger than it was originally, very optical illusion-esque.
@@CarMedicine i didnt even do that, i watched the original on my phone and the effect still worked
bro you're right wtf
@@YAOMTC if you watch the VR version on a VR headset it actually does have 3D depth as well as being a 180° VR video
This feels so cramped. This version actually adds a lot to the point that watching something the way it wasn't designed for can make watching it much worse lol
On the other hand, the constantly moving screen of my tablet due to the VR made it hard to see the smaller images/videos. I appreciate both version and think the original was a cool idea. But VR and I don‘t mix. =)
exactly
@@ArDeeMee it also didn’t quite mix cause the text was a tad bit small so it would blur. At least for my phone it did
@@ArDeeMee On tablet/mobile, you can click and drag the screen around, as well as pinch to zoom
@@iamuss76 bit hard if you're using a headset though, like as was intended
8:37 I actually have an ear infection in that ear rn so this part of the video was a bit of a jumpscare lol
go get that checked out dude
@@venhalla3232 I’m gonna dw
@@theundeadcactus6194 did you get checked out? did you die?
@@gumiho_celeste yeah it’s all good now, I literally just had a giant glob of earwax stuck in it
I feel like uploading this 2D version perfectly cemented the idea that while watching the original is better, it doesn't hurt to give the audience choices.
Lets just downgrade everything and go back to Low aspect ratios, a majority of the consumers wont even care.
@@Spherehead123 Still doesn't hurt to give the option to the consumer on whether or not they want the original or the resized version.
too bad i dont have a headset so i dont have that option 🫤
@@Spherehead123 this video was made like this because most browsers can’t play vr videos anymore, and mobile controls are sucky, making a perfect example of the limitations of the consumer grade products for media reproduction.
@@Jzombi301 what do you mean headset? You can just click and drag in the browser to move the camera around like I do. It's been like that since youtube first added 360 view way back in I think 2014?
It's awesome that you made it 2D, but the fact that it lacks the "Cope Seethe Mald" poster makes it clear that the intended way to enjoy it at it's fullest is by VR. The irony of this video needing to be made in 2D so many people could watch is a magnificent way to showcase your point!
Some jokes got letterboxed out of frame, just like the examples he mentions in the video.
Yeah, but what will happen when DumbTube will inevitably discontinue 360 and the video vanishes into thin air?
@@aserta They won't (probably)
@@shinoku250_gaming as headsets get better I don't see why they would discontinue the medium. Might be rather niche at this moment but soon enough especially with micro led tech coming along we should see another decent boom in headset buyers at least from those waiting on it(myself included), plus headsets aren't that expensive even when compared to consoles these days, only thing they lack is content.
@@NarutoMagicCyclops Yeah exactly, VR isn't just for games after all, it's just the main attraction of it.
6:28 I watched this video as an adblocker first and now again as a premium member. I have transcended labels
The VR version was so fun to watch. Thank you for taking the time to make both versions! Very cool and epic of you to do that.
It’s pretty meta how we all get to experience this change in format for accessibility in real time
We need to go deeper! Maybe an audiobook version and then paperback followed by a version that's just the smell of the idea of the video.
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this entire version of the video existing makes me realize youtube vr was honestly really cool and they should update it again
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Agreed
youtube loves pouring a ton of resources into a genuinely cool new feature, promoting it heavily, getting a bunch of artists to pour their souls into using this tech to create new, enriching experiences, then promptly forgetting it ever existed and letting it rot
if only they could support all their features the way they support Bad Tiktok Mode
@@ckorp666 I mean, With VR headsets still expensive and wonky and the rate of usage is still pretty low of course it's easier to implement Shorts.
@@Kaimax61 Shorts are so useless tbh, they would save more if shorts never existed.
love the new feeling that this video gives . I'm actually amazed by the fact that every video you are trying to explore new techniques, new artstyles, new everything basically. keep up the good work
I love his delivery at 2:44
I love how your proving your whole point by uploading both how the video is intended and the one to accommodate for people without a VR headset
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For whatever it's worth, I went through the (somewhat arduous) process of getting the video to work on my headset and I had a blast. I understand why this version exists, but I still really liked the original, and think it was worth your effort making it in VR.
noodle running very quickly towards you and slapping your face just hits different in first person
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@@pumpkin_pants3828 it hits different damn right
how did you get it to work with pcvr?
yeah im with the guy above me, how did you get it to work on pc? i thought youtube vr wasnt downloadable anymore
thank u noodle for listening to your fan base. if you ever plan on making future VR content, also releasing a 2D version is really useful for accessibility with your audience. with this version of the video, I now feel like I understand your intention with the original, but when I initially watched the original when it came out, I found it really hard to pay attention as my ADHD/autism made it hard to concentrate as so much stuff was happening around me. hell, even in this version I found myself looking at the broken house more than your wee little screen on the table.
but sincerely, thank you. keep making what you want, you're an inspiration
Thank you for taking the time to make this! I definitely like the original more, but it would be a nightmare to try and rewatch (which I do with your videos constantly) it every time I do a binge of your videos
I loved the original, even with the finicky controls of youtube VR, but I respect your decision and ability to make the video 2D. I feel like giving **us** the option to watch it however we prefer (even if the VR vid is objectively so much cooler) speaks to the core of your message really well
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VR is indeed much cooler, alas for people like me it was completely unwatchable due to running at about 4 fps, so I'll have to thank Noodle for giving us this 2d version
how many of yall actually have a headset to watch it on tho? i just watched the og on my computer screen. it just looked zoomed out, not too bad
It was neat, yeah.
It was also a bit of a nightmare to watch on a normal phone.
by the way, is the original video actually supposed to be viewed in like, ACTUAL vr? because for me the only way to watch youtube 360 stuff on VR is to see it in a tiny little screen, and I seriously can't tell if noodle intended the video to be viewed by this
As painful and janky RUclips VR is on my tiny phone, seeing the opening to the dark knight and the awe-inspiring sandworm in dune as though I'm in in actual IMAX theater made the whole experience worth it; Even if you choose to watch this version instead of the original I highly recommend just jumping to the IMAX part in the original to truly understand.
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I *need* streaming services to start having vr for theatrical movies, it would be phenomenal
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Well, there exists an VR App that's trying to make that possible it's called Bigscreen VR you can even get it on the Quest 2 Store.
It's more of a social storefront for Cinema Movies, but you can turn all the social stuff off, and you can even bypass the storefront aspect, as long as you already own a version of the movie you want to watch. you can just view them through any Home DLNA server, for example Plex.
Although if you don't own it, you can just buy tickets to view it like any old Theater and watch from Bigscreen VR's Servers...
It's a great experience and prob the best Cinema Quality VR App out ATM.
@@ProtoPropski I’ve been in big screen, my main problem is that it has a very small selection of movies
@@ProtoPropskii’ve also discovered that steam has a built in vr theatre mode and also has the option to display the screen in 3d (which I found while figuring out how the hell to set up a flatscreen game as a vr game using a mod which was way more troublesome than it should’ve been…)
Thank you for making this version of the video. I had one of the bigger comments about phone issues and nausea, and it was a whole lot more comfortable to watch this format. As others have already mentioned, this does actually do a good job of illustrating your point. With certain gags being missed and the difference between different formats not seeming as large
You have one of the coolest most distinct and entertaining video formats I've yet to come across
It feels like so much heart is put into these videos, great work!
The fact that you took the time to edit this, so u could constantly remind us we're watching a worse version, encapsulates the whole reason I subbed to your channel in the first place.
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Omnipresence comes in handy
Witnessing both versions of this video adds a new level of appreciation for Noodle because he literally had to change the aspect ratio and other things to make the 2d version work. An actually mastermind at work.
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I love you sound design in this one. hearing you pull things outta my ear was so neat. all the little things happening on each side of the screen just made me laugh as it happend.
I love how your entire atmosphere of these videos feels like Chaotic Neutral with a point. Just enough craziness to keep you tuned in while still sending home the facts of whatever topic your covering. Love it!
What a lad. He actually has the patience to listen to his audience and adapt his videos to people that need it. Keep it up!
Yes, like how Pixar did!
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he didn't Adapt to his audience, technically it was an evolving art. It proved his point with the inferior version, but it's nice to see it without the vr stuff.
You can tell he wasn’t that happy about it lol
Are you sure about that, this further proves Noodle's point
I love how this video isn't an exact carbon copy of the original video, with new jokes that land perfectly
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Thank you for doing both versions.
i will say i super loved and appreciated all the work u put into to the vr one, and also every video you do
Thank you! I had to miss out on the VR one because I literally cannot play videos at a higher resolution than 144p, so the 3D one was nothing but unintelligible fuzz. This one is watchable. Thank you.
I appreciate the extra video. The original version was really cool, but it could be difficult to watch if you weren't actively using/interacting with the VR aspect of it. It's rather amusing that a video that goes into how the various methods of adapting movies for home viewing could drastically negatively impact how they were intended to be experienced ended up being altered from its intended method of viewing.
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Yo you go to rice?
Honestly, considering the topic of both videos, the 2D version serves as an interesting (and I'd argue artistic to an extent) companion to the original, as the existence of both is a great example of the "two version" problem you mention in the video, much like how the original being made for VR and being watched on 2D screens served as an example of "It was made for X medium and is now being forced onto Y medium."
Absolutely brilliant set of videos, as a collector of VHS tapes, the beginning section was a joy to watch, also I watched this video half in VR before realizing you uploaded another version, and realizing how brilliant it is.
i love how the thumbnail shows that this is the 2d version by having someone watching the original video, its like someone filming a 3d movie with a normal camera. pretty cool
i appreciate that this version existing basically prove the Conclusion even better, yeah it is accessible & that's good, but it's also the worse version of the experience... but at least for now the intended version is still accessible so we got the options
That midroll was done way too well
Man I really like those different styles in what video are made , super cool , and the video is also awesome
I really just want to express how awesome it is that you not only listened, but changed some (admittedly minor) things in the 2d version of this video, which of course means a ton of extra work that technically you didn't have to do. Both versions are great, and you remain one of the best creators on the platform.
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I let the ads run in both version so he has at least a tiny bit of reward. 🤷♀️
Thank you noodle! It really sucks not to watch the way it was intended but as you discoursed in your video, sometimes directors gotta sacrifice some things in order to fit the device/screen. I'm really happy you made a second version
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This is great I hope you keep doing both types of videos in the future
thanks for linking the music in the vid!
I'm really glad to see this, I still like the concept behind the original, and I hope RUclips makes things easier to use for their VR controls because that was my biggest issue with it, but having this is really good, and like others said great to have a backup for when RUclips inevitably fucks up and takes all VR videos down or some nonsense
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The video looks great both ways, and that’s actually impressive.
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Loved how you originally used the VR format to convey scale/size and really get the aspect ratio experiences across, but this version's alright for people who only have mobile or smthn
I love the lore of the house getting slowly but steadily demolished
For those of you wondering, yes the zoom at 12:19 was in the VR video too... actually scared me.
No it wasn't lol
@@noodlefunny there is, it's at 12:57 of the 3D video
Seeing the aspect ratios in VR honestly confused me and it took me like straight up two minutes to realize what you meant by title of your video. While I the VR version was definitely unique and cool to look at and I also get the point of having it in VR, I’m glad that there’s a normal version that can help those who can’t handle VR. Awesome job on both videos! 😁👍
I just realize the application all of the critiques in the video. have yet to watch the VR version, but the fact that you are not only preaching what other creators had to go through, you’re also demonstrating the solutions and how we’re able to capture the narrative with framing
I'm glad you made this version, not only for the accessibility aspect, but also the allegorical one. The original was completely unwatchable to me without VR, as even at 4k, the video was blurry enough to feel like I was watching at 360p. On top of that, the indicated 'safe zone' had the top and bottom cut off, like a letterbox :^] I feel like you nailed the parallel of not being able to view IMAX films as intended and not being able to view the original VR version of this as intended. Kudos to another BANGER.
Honestly, as someone who watched this in VR I still think it's kind of cool to watch this version just to see how you adapted it for 2D
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Thank you for accounting for us poor lads out here with no VR or patience to move our phone screens around. Great video, looking forward to the next one!
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I didn't even realise until I saw the first video, that my new phone doesn't even have the option to use VR, like my old one did. This displeases me.
I hate how much I love your videos that I had to come back three weeks after you posted it just to say how much I love this video
This man is really just a visionary of animation for youtube😂
Really liked the original video, but I'm glad you made this available! I see them as complementary experiences in a way, you can actually corroborate your original point by giving the option of seeing the version as you originally intended and this simplified yet more accessible one
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I watched the VR version and enjoyed it a lot but I like this version so I can appreciate the very nice 3D you did for this, I love it
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@@ibranmlr6139 Goodness dude, how many indeed do you need for each comment?
Watched this video again to support the creator. Very cool and big PP of you sir. Thank you for making you content more accessible.
I said that watching your vids are like an experience that's an understatement. It's crazy that this version was created within discussing the topic of releases not going with the direction and choices of the creator and it really highlights it. You took an experience and you made it into a video. A regular old video that takes the magic of an experience and kinda tosses it in the trash can. Further amplifying and strengthening your point. A meta joke that just makes you even more correct. You, my boy, are the smartest dummy I have ever did done lain my droopy little eyes on.
It's like Jackass 4.5 but no
Thank you so much. I've seen it in the original but RUclips made it really hard. I still annoyed it and now I can also see it completely. Thank you again!
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I think the original version was inventive and fun. I commend you for making this version as well, but i also want to acknowledge that i liked the VR idea and think it was worth doing / exploring.
i like that this version of the thumbnail contrasts with the other one
I love that this version was re-rendered like an old home media Pixar film.
I can actually watch the video now, thank you
VR is grate my guy. Especially your bald spot
There were a bunch of little details in the animation that was lost in the VR version my phone was rendering so I’m glad you gave us the option.
I watched this version after watching the first one in my quest 2...
AND OH MY GOD, YOU HAVE SUCH A VALID POINT.
so much DEPTH is lost when you change the resolution / how you are supposed to view it
Nice initiative, but I can't help but love the irony of making a video about the effect of changing mediums and then change its medium.
Glad you made a version of the video I could actually enjoy. Nothing worse than having to sit perfectly still to watch a video without feeling motion sick
im really glad i actually took some time to watch the original video in vr, this feels claustrophobic in some screnes, great job
As a cinemagrapher, this video was amazing. I always shoot/record by 16:9 because I hate how widescreeen literally removes almost everything from the movie. Great video man.
Dealing with variable aspect ratios in games can be a headache, too. If it's even supported. Many older games, like the first two Max Payne games, don't support anything other than 4:3 and will get stretched if you run them at 1920*1080 on a modern widescreen display. If it _is_ supported, it's often badly programmed by fixing the horizontal or vertical component of the camera's field of view and adjusting the other to match. If they fix the horizontal, then going wider cuts out your vertical view. If they fix the vertical, then going to a portrait orientation cuts your horizontal view. The correct way to do it is to take the minimum of the two, match that to the FOV slider, and expand the other. This may have gotten better with the advent of smartphones which can rotate the display at a moment's notice, but there's bound to be lots of lazy programmers who've never done anything for mobile platforms, so I remain cautiously pessimistic.
you know you are just supposed to like... frame it for your aspect ratio right?
As much as I enjoyed the VR version of this video, one can only last so long being in the same room as noodle before they are overcome with holy fear, so I'm glad this much less terrifying version exists.
Very impressed how well this turned out, and how quickly you did it! I hadn't considered that you have full control of the 3d camera. At least, I thought it would take a lot of effort to recompose each shot, but it seems to have worked out quite well without needing to move any geometry (that I could notice). This just goes to further reinforce the ideas of preservation and tailor made accommodation discussed in the video too! I do appreciate the editor notes though, to make it clear that this is a compromise, not the best way to experience it. Seriously, cannot praise the VR version enough!
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Thank you for this! The VR stuff on RUclips still has a way to go, but this was a much more comfortable watch (especially since the framerate was higher than 2 and it didn't try to rollback frames! Thanks, RUclips!)
Very good video. Genuinely love listening to you talk about anything
Thank you so much for this version. Objectively, the original is stylistically better and immersive, but there's a comfort in watching at any angle comfortably and getting all the info at once
I actually didn't think about this before. I actually just realized while watching this video that everything in this video is true. I used to LOVE going to the theatres, because it was on a big wide screen. But finding this out just makes me mad. I'm glad they made screens wide on tvs. (btw I just wanna say you're my new favorite animator I love watching you rant about controversy without worrying about other people getting mad)
So glad you did this noodle. I didn't want to say anything for fear of getting torn apart by fanboys. It was really hard for me to watch and this was much better in my opinion :)
I'm glad you mentioned Transformers, the aspect ratio is super noticeable in Revenge o the Fallen during that scene where Optimus Prime and Megatron are tumbling into a forest
Really enjoyed this video in the VR mode, even tho on phones its pretty jacked up. Cool that you reposted in 2D, hope it gets the same message through as good as the VR one
As someone who doesn't have a vr headset, I'm glad you brought this
When watching the original, I REALLY understood the point about how VR can alter a movie's screen to fit whatever aspect ratio the movie director wanted.
When rewatching it in 2D (either downloading the original or this version) I absolutely get the part where "It has to be widely adopted" for it to work.
That was fascinating! And thank you for making a 2d version.
So, how about addressing the trend for recent films and TV shows to be shot with such an utter lack of lighting that the viewer literally spends minutes at a time looking at an entirely black screen? I'd love to know the decision making and technical process behind *that* bit of cinematography.
Love this fade to white for the "it's a lie" theme ❤
You should totally keep it... as well as those "like a car" jokes out of nowhere ;P
Aww so kind, thanks for actually doing this for the people who couldn't stomach vr even if it makes the point worser. Cool video bro
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It’s kinda ironic how your solution to showcase every aspect ratio ended up being excluded from certain people who weren’t able to view the thing the way the creator intended. Love you and the video tho
I like how this video allows me to see a majority of 3D animation that I didn't know where to look at in the right time for the original,now able to see every little detail like how the small tv goes more and more left on the table until it doesn't.
Such a cool concept for a video and really well done.
The VR version was such a fun treat, I loved it
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2:13 he do a lil dance!!!!!
EXCELLENT for rewatching!! the difference is immense, further helping the original point be made, and also it is great now for first timers with accessibility reasons :)
I actually watched the original video on my VR headset, but I still watch this one because I support your content!
Loved the original, showed it to my friends with my Index. Glad you're making it more accesible
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How do you watch the original on the Index?? I couldn't figure it out
@@KawaiiJessJ I used virtual desktop, it's $15 but pretty useful, especially if you use VR often at all
Thank you for uploading this version. I absolutely love the original, and I sincerely believe you used youtube's VR functions better than 99% of VR videos. It also just didn't vibe with my phone at all and I had no better way to go about it. You're honestly one of my favourite youtubers, and I always love hearing your thoughts on things I thought I never cared about.
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Noodle when he makes a video that only a fraction of his audience can enjoy the way he intended, then releases it in a way that all of his audience can enjoy but enjoy slightly less than if they had the original version
I can't believe watching the same video in different format, is a lot enjoyable.
It's like watching the same movie for the second time, and pick up on things you haven't noticed before, but it's a youtube video.
I really appreciate this. Noodle, u remain one of the coolest creators on the platform
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RIP to anyone who can't experience you theater scenes in VR. They were honestly soo cool.
I just love the style and perspective of the two videos 3-D or 2-D I would love to see more In this style
This legend just made a video about ruining movies with formats they weren't meant for, and then ruined that video with a format it wasn't meant for
As someone who loves movies and suffers from motion sickness, I really hope that VR is not the future of movie-watching 😬
as somebody with a phone to small to fake VR with and not enough money for a legit VR I wholeheartedly agree