Will the Chiefs give Chris Jones the payday he deserves and willing to sacrifice depth? 🤔 | NFL Live
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- Опубликовано: 4 окт 2024
- Dan Graziano, Tim Hasselbeck and I join Laura Rutledge on NFL Live to talk about the Kansas City Chiefs' offseason plans and why the Dallas Cowboys need to ramp up their defense for new defensive coordinator Mike Zimmer.
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“They need a couple offensive tackles.”
Huh? Do people on sports media ever research things before they say them?
The tackles did fine this year. Taylor, even with those ridiculous targeted penalties and some actual holds, played 10 times better than Andrew Wylie and Donavon Smith did fine but was clearly not as spry as he was when he was in Tampa. Wanya Morris will be the starter if not next year the year after. He did just fine when he filled in for Smith. I could see KC try and go after a Tyron Smith who could be looking to chase a ring for LT but Jawaan Taylor is going to be the Chiefs starting RT next year. Chiefs will resign as many guys as they can this off-season and build through the draft like they have been. KC could easily resign Chris Jones and Sneed with some roster moves like cutting MVS, trading Toney, trading/cutting/extending Justin Reid, or restructuring contracts like Travis Kelce and Mahomes by giving them restructure bonuses to free up cap. Veach is the best GM in football and is a wizard with the salary cap. I have full faith in him
I like Wanya Morris. I think he’s the guy at LT.
OL and WRs are plenty in the draft this year.
There’s so many WRs that are 1st round talent that will go in the later rounds.
They’ll grab a tackle in the draft after they get a WR.
Chiefs don’t won the Super Bowl if they don’t have Jones, he is so key.
Most definitely 💯
People crack me up with the "we can replace him" comments...if you're a true chiefs fan, you'd know he's single-handedly impacted playoff games, afc championships and superbowls. They aren't 3x champs without him, fact. You don't just replace that you appreciate it and pay him what he's worth.
You have to pay him.. Let sneed go which hurts but draft a CB early to replace him.
IT's bandwagon fans who think Chris Jones and Travis Kelce are going to be easy pieces to replace and that the Chiefs are a slam dunk to win 3+ more titles. Will be interesting to see how the off-season unfolds. I know Sneed is amazing but I'd prioritize the pass rusher.
100% agree. It blows my mind that there are Chiefs "fans" who don't get this. He literally saved the entire SEASON and they wouldn't have even made it to the playoffs without him.
Keep EVERYONE somehow someway!!!!
TRUTH
I can see the Chiefs tagging and trading Chris Jones, much like Tyreek Hill. I wouldn't advise it, Chris Jones is arguably the 2nd most important player behind Mahomes on that team, but I just don't think they can afford to give him what he wants while having any shot of improving this team because they need to fix this offense.
Yeah if it has to be a choice between Jones and Sneed, gotta keep Jones. Pass rush helps secondary, if no Pass rush don't care who's at corner they're more likely to get cooked.
Ain’t no arguably. Without CJ, that’s a lottery team defense. I would trust Mahomes to get stats with any receiver as long as they catch the ball. I think it’s time kelce either retires or is traded.
Neither of them are leaving.
@@salahzulu7077 I mean I said arguably just cause some people are gonna think it's Kelce. I know it's Jones, but I wasn't tryna have the Swifties all up in my shit
I can see chris jones leaving after this season if he don't get the right paycheck just like tyreek you said,Tyreek was a huge part towards KC as one of their best WRs & in all honesty,Travis wouldn't have gotten that much spotlight right now if tyreek didn't leave🤷♂️Tyreek sat alot of records & had more people talk about him more than travis.But chris jones is a big asset to the defense & im not even a kc fan either.If they want to win a 3 peat they need to give jones a good ass contract since hes the glue to their defense if they wanna 3 peat
This is why 3 peat is so hard since the cap. Impossible to keep future hall of famers together especially when you have the best athlete in the NFL on the team.
Excuses, already?
@@ericross441mf we dont need excuses we are back2back champs...whats yall excuse for being sorry as hell?? 😂😂
@@Jaybrown223mf just talk to talk 😂😂
@@ericross441excused? There a reason there a hasn’t been a 3peat in football
That’s why Veach is the greatest GM in the league. Only GM to ever win a Super Bowl with that high of a cap hit from the QB position.
I don't see how they can keep him. If he wants top dollar, they will likely have to move on. Luckily, this is one of the best drafting and development teams in football.
I really hope Jones's special relationship with Andy Reid keeps him with the Chiefs. Along with a Mahomes restructure and the tantalizing possibility of a threepeat, I think he might be okay with a short term deal at a lower price than last year
Naw NFL careers are short, he’s won multiple times already. It would be financially irresponsible to take a short deal.
@@davidluna7237no not really, 15 mil is 15 mil financially irresponsible and not what he wants to do are two different things
He also loves Spags and is one of Kelce's best friends on the team. Mahomes has never played without him. I hope they can work something out, and that he sees from Tyreek's experience that being on a winning team with a great culture is worth staying.
@@kwoylee5617never understand why these owners just funnel money illegal via off shore accounts this happens all the time in European football via agents third parties
@@davidluna7237people fail to realize that nfl players like him have outside endorsements and can easily make money on sponsorships/partnerships. lots of business outside of the contract
KC needs to give Jones a respectable offer but they can’t break the bank on him. It’s unfortunate but I think he’s leaving KC. Winning comes at a cost, just ask Reek.
They broke the Bank with Mahomes and Kelce and Jones is at the top of the game for DT. They need to pay him top of the market, they can cut players and draft better.
If they don't break the bank for him another team definitely will
@@alexcoronamahomes is already reworking his contract, AGAIN FOR CJ95...HE OWES US A LITTLE DISCOUNT BASED ON THAT FACT ALONE..but we cant make him
They don’t win that game without Jones
@@alexcoronaThey did not break the bank on Kelce he is severely underpaid.
We also need to pick up a #1 receiver
He’s the next biggest playmaker to Mahomes. If you watched this super bowl and the last. He has made game changing plays that put the team in position to win. He is a must have on that defense
This is gonna be interesting. aside from Jones, Sneed and Willie Gay also gonna be a free agents. Those two also a critical part of the defense that bailed them out so many times. If you give Jones what he want you probably won't be able to keep those two. You can try to replace them in the draft but at the same tine Offense need to upgrade their weapons too. they'll be fine as long as they have Mahomes but the front office have to work a magic if they wont to go for a three peat.
The players need to be thinking long term. If they 3-peat, their earnings potential will increase even more.
I love Chris but he needs to meet the team halfway if we are to achieve our goals. Kelce has also been paid under his true value for years, we can’t pay any DT $30+ million a year, not even Chris.
The Chiefs have been the best team in the NFL at roster building while your QB is on a 2nd contract and the cap hit has kicked in. Veach pulled off one of the best trades since Hershel Walker in the Tyreek deal. They completely flipped a defense in two seasons! Now it’s the best in the league while also being the youngest. Mahomes contract gives them the flexibility to convert a massive chunk into roster bonus this off season. They could free up 26-27M in cap. If Sneed and Jones will take less than absolute top of market they can bring back both and sign a veteran like Mike Evans. Tag and trade of Jones is also an option if they can’t agree on a contract.
He did tweet he wasn’t going to play for another franchise ever 🤷🏽♂️
Lol, That's before all the offers will come in
Every player says that till your being slapped in the face with a mill
To be fair there are legitimate "sacrifices" they can make to keep both Jones and Sneed. Obviously they will cut MVS to save 12m. They can rework Mahomes and Kelce to free up another 10-12m without too much down the road problems. If they cut or trade Thuney it will save 15m or so. I think it is pretty clear you can get a player of 90% Thuney in the 1st or 2nd rnd of the draft before you could get a DT that is 90% of Jones. If they do it right they could still sign a 15m or so per yr WR as well.
Thuney isn't going anywhere. Ceh is not good
He gone too
@plpams8332 They can replace CEH in the 5th round or even later. He did very little this year. Not to mention there is a TON of FA RBs this year and I think they will mostly all be in the 5m or so cap hit range. Teams are just not going to pay RBs.
@julianlunn594 I wouldn't say he isn't good, but the number 2 RB market is saturated af rn, and you can find someone to take his spot
@WispFigment that's true, but I'd take a damn near any of them going into next year. He wasn't productive after his rookie year.
So. He wasn't good.
Every expert has the Chiefs reworking Mahomes contract to free up 30+ million alone so yes they can also combine it with kelce to only free up 10-15 mil but will probably do the fore mentioned option
"Chris Jones, you are a Seattle Seahawk!"
- Mina Kimes, 2024
This is tough because he definitely had an impact in the Superbowl on crucial downs didn’t sack Brock Purdy but got close enough to throw him off his spot and instead of touchdowns the 49ers had to settle for field goals
I think in a situation like this when you want to achieve a 3 peat you might have to bite the bullet and pay him more you need to have "impact players" on the opposite side of the ball because we already know Patrick is going to handle business on the offensive side but when he's not on the field I need a veteran impact player who can galvanize the defense and understands the situation that we are in and hold it down until Patrick can finish them off
99% chance he gets tagged for $32 Mil because he wants a 3-year deal for $ 105 Mil
Problem with that is a tag deal makes the whole 32 million count against it, a multi year deal can pull the cap hit down to 20 million in 2024. That 12 million is a big chunk to have for Sneed who will want about 18 million per year over 3 years.
Chiefs defense didn't look good to start the season until Chris Jones got back, unless they get Mahomes alot of help on offense I don't see them winning without Jones. He is more important than Sneed even though Sneed is nice as hell, they gotta dog in Mcduffie too
If he really wants to chase Brady he needs to take less on his contract. Let them keep some of these guys. He should make enough between state farm and head and shoulders and whatever else he has.
He wants money comparable to what Donald is making. Guess what, Donald didn't deserve the money he is making. If Jones feels that being the highest paid player is that important, let him walk. I still think he is a "me only" player, that the Chiefs can do without. Sign Sneed, Gay, and make sure Bolton stays in the fold, and our fortunes will work out just fine. Jones is a Jonah, and I, for one, would prefer to see him gone.
Agree with Mina kimes and Laura Rutledge Chiefs should absolutely break the Bank re-sign Chris Jones
The Chiefs will restructure Mahomes contract and cut MVS which will open about $45M in cap space which with their already $20M in Cap space the choice they will really then have is should they resign Chris Jones resign a couple guys (tranquil in particular) and get a decent WR with potentially a tackle or they could resign Sneed and get potentially Mike Evan’s or Tee Higgins but draft a tackle and a DT. I’d personally resign Jones and trust Veach to get a good CB late in the draft (which he’s done repeatedly).
Exactly! Edwards and gay fit so well on this team too
He has to choose between the money and winning. I’m not gonna say a player has to take less if they don’t want to, but they also can’t complain about the potential drop in team win rate in a market cap league. He is the 2nd most important player on the team, but how much is that worth vs what you can get to replace him? That’s a hard problem
They need to try their best to sign him. For the majority of the Superbowl, he was the best player on the field.
As a chiefs fan i think for a 3 peat mahomes needs to restructure or take a pay cut
I’m almost certain he’ll restructure. He’s talking about a 3 peat so I’m sure he’s aware of what that would mean for his contract
Chris Jones… aka… the Big Sausage is a beast. 😆
Nfl combine in case you’re wondering. 😝
I don't remember Belichick and the Patriots giving too many players what the players would call 'Generational Wealth'.
I seem to remember it being a revolving door in Foxboro With the two exceptions for most of the 20 years being Brady and Belichick. 🤔
I'm not saying you shouldn't pay to keep good players but I don't think one player should be 25% of your salary cap.
Signing Sneed is the top priority. If they can't work out a deal franchise tag. Chris Jones will get a decent offer.
Interior lineman is more important than corner. If you can't win in the trenches, a good qb is going to burn your defense regardless of how good your secondary is.
@@Destination_Euphoria True but you have the best tandem corners in the league. Chris Jones isn't Aaron Donald and if he wants that money,go somewhere else.
We can win another super bowl without Chris Jones.
The Chiefs have incredible depth at corner. People think it’s a duo when really it’s a quadro (or whatever you’d call a group of 4) I wouldn’t be surprised if they tag and trade Sneed
Chris Jones isn't getting top D line money in Kansas City. Corners don't grow on trees and that secondary locked up,Hill Waddle,Debo,Aiyuk,Kittles, Flowers. I'll take that over paying Chris Jones.
Keep EVERYONE somehow someway!!!!
Seattle could use a big body up front if we don’t get Williams signed back
Jones already said he's aint going no where
They will find a way to keep Jones. Even if it means restructuring Mahomes' contract. Nothing in football is more important on defense than consistent pressure on the quarterback.
Why are we not talking abt Lj snead I feel that he is also very important on that defense always def opponents Wr1
Jones was a beast! 😎👍
Chris will get paid, but money is not rings, he’s gotten three with Patrick, the whole reason to play the sport. I think it won’t be about a huge payday, but I think they will work something out. Like Patrick said, legacy is worth more than money. Nothing like being on a team with the best chance to win a SB. And nothing better right now, than being called a 3X SB Champion. And next year at the SB, 2x defending SB Champion, nothing better.
If that were true he would have signed a 4 year deal last off season. Instead he sat out and signed a 1 year deal. No way he comes back for less than $100 million.
Plus we gotta sign Sneed too
Chiefs need a WR in the FA, at least a mid WR like Hollywood or ridley
Chris Jones is a major part of these 3 tittles. He is their Von Miller
He makes $20M a year, and he won't resign for less. I'm sure the Chiefs will offer him a slight raise.
The only question is would he rather win a title, and make $22M a year, or does he want $25-26M, on a good team that probably won't win. That's $12-16M more over 4 years. Not chump change.
Chris Jones wants 30-33 million per year, The Chiefs offer last year was 2 years at 54 million and he turned it down.
They don’t have enough cap room plus they only got 43 guys under contract jones will ask north $27m / yr
Chiefs need to get rid of MVS (14 million) and Jawaan Taylor (26 million)…along with restructuring Mahomes’ contract, they may be able to squeeze just enough for Jones and Sneed. Draft a WR to pair with Rice, sign a solid slot receiver to preserve Kelce for the playoffs……it should be enough
Absolutely back the bricks truck up.
They can’t tag him. That was part of his win of the holdout at the beginning of the season
Was it?
"...Kansas City's revised agreement with Jones that was reached Monday did not include a provision that prevents the Chiefs from using their franchise tag on the All-Pro defensive tackle..."
Hmm it was first reported that he won that. Either way it’s a $32M cap hit if they tag so they can’t tag him
@@Frosty-Fred If they can cap and trade, they could, but it seems rather unlikely to me.
They better give him whatever he wants.. he saved 2 touchdowns in the Super Bowl.. plus, he is probably the best DT in the NFL
If Jones leaves KC is cooked. Player that is not replaceable. Jones is the reason why KC won the game. Mahomes was cheeks for three quarters. Mahomes getting paid all that money will be loosing pieces little by little.
Let's hope not. He is 30 and we have other needs. He also most likely cost us the first game of the year.
We need to! I don’t exactly know how mahomes contract is structured but I think now is the time to sacrifice money to try and get this 3 peat
Pay that man and get back to business!
Sneed is the most important piece.
you dont know ball if you think a CB is more important than a top 2 DT. it doesnt how good a CB is if the Dline cant get to the QB
@@JohnnyCdz Jones will be franchised so I’m not worried about him. Sneed is the most important piece like I said. Sneed shutdown every top receiver in the game Chase, Samuel, Diggs, Allen, Jefferson, Adam’s, St.Brown etc.
@@JohnnyCdz Jones is a perfect candidate for a tag and trade with a huge haul coming back like Tyreek brought.
KC is definitely going to sign Chris Jones. They need him to get that 3-peat.
So happy the team knows what's it's doing. unlike the chiefs fans in the comments. Jones has won 3 Superbowls now. I'm thankful for what he's provided for the team. They are going to pay him, the team will win another ring, and these "fans" will pretend it was their idea all long. I've never been more proud of my team and at the same time, these cheap chiefs "fans", have never made me more embarrassed to be born and raised in KC.
lol, did they pay tyreek? They know even with out him, they still win the division for the next few years.
If he's smart he'll take a smaller amount. Look at how that worked out for Hill. Missed out on 2 super bowls....
Jones is 500 million he’s THAT good
Didn't he just just sit out this year? To negotiate his contract
Bottom line if Chiefs want to 3-peat they need Chris Jones
YES
Sneed Jones and gay are a must that defense was amazing last year especially in the whole playoff run!!!! If not Dallas will take them come on home boys
Jones and Gay are gone. Sneed will be resigned and cost us 16 million. This is reality! MVS and CEH are also history. Tranquill will go from 2 million to 6 million if he stays. Toney is done and good ridence!
Don't tag him and piss him off. Pay him a long contract with some ability to restructure if both sides want it.
Tagging ruins next years cap because it all counts. We need a deal so we can spread the money over a period.
If he doesn't sign a long term deal, I think the team trades him....I'm hope he stays tho.
I don't get it. Maybe I have bias but 49ers probably have two super bowl rings if not for Chris Jones.
Mahomes had very up and down games in both 49er super bowls but Chris Jones was always a beast.
Their going to extend Jones... then slap the tag on Sneed..
Chris Jones doesn't want to leave KC
Why not just give him two more million these players want the most while Patrick is playing lights out smmfh
What type of draft picks could we get for Jones?
If Jones fights for all the money again this year, they will not sign him. They may end up trading him for a bunch of picks. What do you think they did with Hill. Couldn't believe they traded him and since then they have won 2 Superbowls. Yes, would be great if he doesn't insist on a huge guarantee...but he didn't last year. And everyone knows he is the best DT and some teams are gonna offer him like 100M guaranteed to get him and the Chiefs can't match that
A lot of that wasn't about money but about longer-term certainty. He's always said he wanted to stay with the Chiefs but wasn't given any assurances about his future. Plus his agents are terrible and advised him poorly. Chris is also more important to the culture and leadership of the team than Tyreek ever was (who whinged that Travis was Mahomes' #1 target and closer friend, LOL.).
Chris Jones is a superb, superb O-line smasher 🙏 Chiefs should definitely keep this superb weapon
This is my first time seeing Mina. Is she the most knowledgable female on football ever? Talking about A gap blitzes, sheeesh
Yes she knows her shit
My Favorite Female Analyst
Chiefs won't keep Jones. Humphrey, Trey Smith, Sneed, Bolton, Pacheco, Mcduffie... just to name a few guys who are on rookie deals which will need to be paid in the next couple seasons. Chiefs cant afford to break the bank on Chris Jones, who has made it obvious through both his previous contract negotiation, and the one last offseason, that he will hold out and be a distraction, and he will not take the home town discount. He's also about to be on the wrong side of 30 next season with all those young guys needing to get paid. They are a better investment than Jones at this point.
Not to take away from how important Jones was for us in the superbowl, but im gonna put it like this. Its a team sport. With only Jones our defenses were mediocre. In week 1 our defense with all our talented rookies but without Jones, played a solid game, and we only lost because of offensive turnovers and drops. We will need to continue to draft well, but we will be fine without Jones.
Jones would do himself a favor to have a chat with Tyreek Hill... Who also wanted the whole bag, and now seems to have regrets that maybe the rings were more important than the extra couple $Mil afterall...
He has stated clearly more than once that he will NEVER wear another teams jersey. So he either completely abandons that mantra and puts on another jersey, he reaches an agreement, or he retires. One of the latter two being more likely.
Funny guys who say that generally don't sit out in September.
Without Jones, what pass-rush does KC have? They obviously have serious needs at WR, but it doesn't look like they'll have enough cap space to go after Mike Evans out of Tampa Bay. We'll see.
What happend to Mina’s Seattle helmet 🤣🤣🧐
If cj95 wants to be apart of a dynasty...he should be more than willing to make a sacrifice. Cmon chris retire a chief!! aaron donald will never have 3 rings👌
Chris Jones is $60m/year man. Pay him.
They need an offensive tackle, not a couple. Taylor is under contract for 3 more years.
Unfortunately you are correct!
Please give him whatever it takes to stay.
@3:29 was that not illegal touching he ran out of bounds and back in bounds and was the first to touch the ball ?🤔
Can they? He needs a great contract, but he needs to take 10-20 less hen he can get with someone else. That's what Mahomes and Kelce do. Chris Jones, you don't need the most money of all time to be a success. If you sacrifice other positions they probably don't 3 peat anyway.
Give chris jones the money he deaerves. Without him there would not have been a superbowl 2024
Superbowl 24 was won with a touchdown pass from goat mahomes
KC would be STUPID not togive Chris Jones a good offer. Vetch must NOT insult him. If the offer is decent, then Chris Jones will stay a KC Chief FACT
Mr. Sneed , welcome to the Miami Dolphins.
Possibility of a threepeat with a respectable pay may make Jones stay..but if its just the pay, we lose him unfortunately..the man is looking for Aaron Donald money..i dont want to lose Sneed either
They won't let jones walk. The chuefs are a very smart organization, they will figure it out. Everyone is hoping they cant😅😅
Wait they have 14 mill in space and 9 of that goes to draft. Leaves them with 5. No way they can keep both Sneed and Jones . Even if they rework Mahomes (I don’t know how they will save 35 mill that’s almost cheating ) . Jones say 30 mill and Sneed what 15??? They CANT keep both - can they ??? The whole league hopes not
I believe Sneed's value is 16 mil. Mahommes currently is taking up 23% of the cap, i really doubt the will restructure him into anything less the 20% of the cap. If i had to make a prediction, they keep Jones but lose Sneed and Gay
They can release MVS. He’s eating $15m up alone next year. There are ways to do this.
Ppl will complain either way so 🙄 😒 😅
They don't need Chris Jones. They have Mahomes. Just ask Tyreek
Come to the Dark Side Chris Jones! ☠️☠️☠️
Dark side is fine, but the mediocre side is what you can offer.
He'll be a RAIDER
No
Pay the man! Pay him or don’t get back to Super Bowl.
Chris Jones is the as much the leader on Defense as Mahomes is the leader on the offense. The Chiefs have a shot at a 3 peat with him, but without him???
We ill be just fine we will veach will fing a way to keep them both😆🏈🏹🤔
Chris Jones "deserves" fair market value. Chiefs arent a charity.
Tag em
Zero chance jones gets tagged. Hes either signed long-term or he’s gone.
And if they replace chris jones how they replace reek u think they will win like they are now…
They better pay him. They lost Tyreek on being so cheap. Pay your greats .
You ever hear of the Cap!
Go ahead and trade Jones. He won't be able to repeat the season he had. Go get some young talent and maybe a veteran desperate for a ring.
We can t pay him 30 million a yr.. maybe 25
Once these dudes get paid they stop producing.
or chris jones could take a paycut gotta sacrifice to get that 3peat ring