Thank you so much for watching my OnePlus Open Video Test between Filmic Pro vs MotionCam Pro vs MCPRO24FPS! I put this together quickly to give potential buyers an idea of what to expect from these apps on the OnePlus Open, so feel free to let me know what you want to see in a more thorough video about one or two of these apps! Also, feel free to leave a comment about anything else you'd like to see, and if this was helpful--please give this video a like and consider subscribing!
In 5 or 10 years we know phone cam will be even better so better results with motioncam, the quality will keep getting better with the app since cams in phone will keep upgrading you already know motioncam results will keep getting better since phone cams will keep upgrading. Since motion has been out, newer phones have come out that show a difference from an earlier series model. S25 is coming that will be sharper and clearer than S24,S24 is sharper and clearer than S22 and S20,The model I have s20fe is less sharper and less clear than S22-24. Just imagine how much more detail the S40-50 will have using a monster program like Motioncam. I'm glad to witness history. To me motion when compared to stock or any other phone cam app looks like dslr quality compared to a phone cam
Hello friend, first of all thank you for your video, I don't understand much, I wanted to ask, if I buy the MC pro 24fps application, but I have two phones with the same account, I want to install it in all 2, I have to pay 2 times or just pay once and download it in two devices connected to the same account, thank you very much
I did more tests this morning compared to 400mb to 1200 mb, and the difference is very small; a person needs to zoom in and nitpick to see the difference, so I would say 400 mb is the max at which it shows a good jump from 230 mb, so I suggest a person stick to 400mb. directlog
Regarding Mcpro24fps and 10bit: If there are such compatibility issues, turn off the GPU in the app. When I activate the GPU on my Honor Magic V2, I got a overbrightened and desaturated awful pictures, with not lots of banding, but lots of color patches. Turn it off and you are probably fine.
great video. I have to say i have seen motion app motion cam with OnePlus 8 Pro 120fps 4k in RAW! and the 9 and 9 pro from Oneplus should be able to do it too! how this one stacks up in high speed mode ? i think the sensor type in every phone is different so are the results.
Thank you Rocheuro! Yes. I've had better slow motion performance from other devices with Motion Cam. It's not stable on the Open unfortunately. I've seen a pretty hard cap at 60fps from recent phones with MotionCam, often with Filmic Pro too.
Hello Miesto, I don't have the OnePlus around for testing anymore, but I believe the ultra wide worked with mcpro. I did not test with Open Camera. It's not my favorite camera app.
@@phonecomp thanks for reply. Yep, OpenCamera is so basic + really clunky UI, but sometimes i prefer it just for quick capture over stock cam, as it with right settings give similar look to mcpro24fps just for quick snap
Man some of those shots were looking like a movie! I gave up on filmic pro a long time ago after they switched their pricing, making me lose all the paid upgrades I had with them. Blackmagic all the way now!
Thanks Danner! As soon as Blackmagic brings their camera app to Android, I will be all over it! Yes, Filmic's new pricing structure is frustrating--I totally agree, but it is often the best camera app on Android. MCPro24FPS is pretty close though (results were better in this test, but Filmic has some really attractive features that are unique). Then for RAW, MotionCam continues to amaze me!
Oneplus Open has the Sony Lytia 808 sensor, the successor of the IMX series, which will soon be discontinued. The Lytia is too new, too advanced, a real weirdo with its 2-Layer Transistor Pixel technology. We just have to wait for real compatibility.
Hello Hasnat, and thank you! I would love to test with the X100, but that's a hard device to get in the states. I doubt I'll be able to test it out. Sorry! One day, when the channel is larger, I hope to be able to test a wider range of phones!
Hello Newlearner! Unfortunately, I don't have time to squeeze a specific S23 Ultra review into my RUclips schedule, but I did compare it to the OnePlus 11 earlier in the year. That might be helpful ruclips.net/video/vzlEvCVv728/видео.html
Hello Eduarth, for my CST node: input color space-DaVinci Wide Gamut, input gamma-DaVinci intermediate, output color space-rec.709, Output Gamma-Gamma 2.5
MotionCam is a beastly camera app, just not practical to shoot RAW all the time. Filmic and MCPro still certainly have a place and are more mature in terms of UI and integrations with other hardware/software. But yeah, MotionCam is my favorite to film with for what I shoot 80% of the time.
@@phonecomp hey if you ever have the time or interest, you should cover "AMVR mobile video". idk exactly what it is, but it seems like a similar project to motioncam but with a priority on saving space.
I have Motioncam and MCPro24 and both can look virtually identical to each other after post work. If you record in 10 bit H.265 with a bitrate of around 300 mbps you can get very good results with MCPro24 on a capable smartphone like a S23 Ultra for example. In fact it has far less noise and preserves details better than Motioncam RAW even with Motioncam's denoiser turned on. Highlights and shadow detail is also preserved very well in MCPro24. Maybe Motioncam has a slight edge in well lit conditions, but in lower light I have to give it to MCPro24 due to vastly less noise and more detail. Overall with correct exposure and lighting you can make both look equally as good in post. It's just that working with RAW files isn't very practical so MCPro24 gets more use from me due to looking about as good with much smaller file sizes, though as said earlier in lower light conditions MCPro24 has the edge. And I say all this as someone who has been a Motioncam fanboy in the past.
@nbshftr You can turn off all sorts of processing in MCPro24. You can turn denoising completely off, sharpening completely off, chromatic aberration correction off, etc etc as well as crank up the bitrate way past what the stock native camera apps in phones usually provide. Literally the only difference at this point is that RAW is uncompressed, though a high enough bitrate can look about as good as RAW since compression technology is quite good nowadays. Sony's FX3, the camera used to make the movie The Creator, usually records between 200mbps to 300mbps at 4k 30. That's not even close to Cinema RAW DNG's through-put, yet it's a good enough bitrate to be used in big budget Hollywood productions. I think 4k Blurays top out at like 120mbps bitrates, yet MCPro24 let's you go all the way up to 500mbps. The difference in quality between a high bitrate video with image processing turned off vs a RAW video is basically zero.
Thank you so much for watching my OnePlus Open Video Test between Filmic Pro vs MotionCam Pro vs MCPRO24FPS! I put this together quickly to give potential buyers an idea of what to expect from these apps on the OnePlus Open, so feel free to let me know what you want to see in a more thorough video about one or two of these apps! Also, feel free to leave a comment about anything else you'd like to see, and if this was helpful--please give this video a like and consider subscribing!
Motioncam next update will allow you to shoot in Prores in real time.. ( less storage space than cinemaDNG)
Hello Kino! That will be an excellent addition. I'll certainly be testing Prores with a few devices as soon as it rolls out. Thanks for the update!
proresRAW? if not RAW, it will be a downgrade since cinemaDNG had all the highlight and shadow details preserved, even though the workflow is clunky.
A downgrade in quality for sure, but easier on storage and in editing. I think it's still a worthwhile addition to the app.
There are videos out there of mcrawlog and for daylight its quite good.. at night CinemaDNG is still superior@@vysakhvalsaraj882
you can drag the folder on davinci and davinci let you edit it like is a video no need for convertion @@vysakhvalsaraj882
In 5 or 10 years we know phone cam will be even better so better results with motioncam, the quality will keep getting better with the app since cams in phone will keep upgrading
you already know motioncam results will keep getting better since phone cams will keep upgrading.
Since motion has been out, newer phones have come out that show a difference from an earlier series model. S25 is coming that will be sharper and clearer than S24,S24 is sharper and clearer than S22 and S20,The model I have s20fe is less sharper and less clear than S22-24. Just imagine how much more detail the S40-50 will have using a monster program like Motioncam. I'm glad to witness history.
To me motion when compared to stock or any other phone cam app looks like dslr quality compared to a phone cam
Hello friend, first of all thank you for your video, I don't understand much, I wanted to ask, if I buy the MC pro 24fps application, but I have two phones with the same account, I want to install it in all 2, I have to pay 2 times or just pay once and download it in two devices connected to the same account, thank you very much
Hello! I'm glad you enjoyed the video. Yes, after you buy MCPro you can use it in multiple devices at once.
Definitely MCRAW 100%. Although you went ham on the grade.
I did more tests this morning compared to 400mb to 1200 mb, and the difference is very small; a person needs to zoom in and nitpick to see the difference, so I would say 400 mb is the max at which it shows a good jump from 230 mb, so I suggest a person stick to 400mb. directlog
Keep it up! Awesome work !
I think you would have a better result using davinci resolve purchased edition can handle cinema dng perfectly
Regarding Mcpro24fps and 10bit: If there are such compatibility issues, turn off the GPU in the app. When I activate the GPU on my Honor Magic V2, I got a overbrightened and desaturated awful pictures, with not lots of banding, but lots of color patches. Turn it off and you are probably fine.
i'm trying to record external in the mcpro24fps but only records 4gb and less than 5 minutes and then stops. Could you help me ? what do i have to do?
Возможно у вас внешнее устройство имеет формат fat32, попробуйте отформатировать его в ntfs, это должно снять ограничение на максимальный размер файла
great video. I have to say i have seen motion app motion cam with OnePlus 8 Pro 120fps 4k in RAW! and the 9 and 9 pro from Oneplus should be able to do it too! how this one stacks up in high speed mode ? i think the sensor type in every phone is different so are the results.
Thank you Rocheuro! Yes. I've had better slow motion performance from other devices with Motion Cam. It's not stable on the Open unfortunately. I've seen a pretty hard cap at 60fps from recent phones with MotionCam, often with Filmic Pro too.
Does ultrawide or tele accesible with mcpro24fps or motioncamera? Have you tried opencamera?
Hello Miesto, I don't have the OnePlus around for testing anymore, but I believe the ultra wide worked with mcpro. I did not test with Open Camera. It's not my favorite camera app.
@@phonecomp thanks for reply.
Yep, OpenCamera is so basic + really clunky UI, but sometimes i prefer it just for quick capture over stock cam, as it with right settings give similar look to mcpro24fps just for quick snap
You deserve more views
Thank you Peter! My full review of the Open is coming out soon, hopefully it will get more views.
Man some of those shots were looking like a movie! I gave up on filmic pro a long time ago after they switched their pricing, making me lose all the paid upgrades I had with them. Blackmagic all the way now!
Thanks Danner! As soon as Blackmagic brings their camera app to Android, I will be all over it! Yes, Filmic's new pricing structure is frustrating--I totally agree, but it is often the best camera app on Android. MCPro24FPS is pretty close though (results were better in this test, but Filmic has some really attractive features that are unique). Then for RAW, MotionCam continues to amaze me!
How did you shoot the dolly-in effect up the attic ladder?@@phonecomp
Did you do frame stacking on the outdoor scene in MotionCam?
Yes I did!
Amazing detailed video, try to let the comparison footage run for 5 seconds more, your editing is extremely quick and hard to watch.
Mega Bytes (MB/s)? Or Mega bits (Mbps)? Pretty sure you're saying Mbps values
Hello Nikil! Definitely Mbps, I knew I'd screw that up eventually in a video.
Mcpro24fps is best for details and correct colors
I agree (at least on the Open)! I plan on testing with MCPro a lot more next year.
I use Mcpro with my Mi 11 Ultra and shoot almost all my channel videos with, it supports 10bit but you have to turn off Gpu in the settings to use it
Hello Mathieu! Yes, I'm very impressed with MCPro. I will be testing it out in a lot more devices going forward.
Motioncam Pro seems to work best with the Samsung ISOCELL pixel binned sensors and the newer bigger Sony IMX sensors.
Oneplus Open has the Sony Lytia 808 sensor, the successor of the IMX series, which will soon be discontinued. The Lytia is too new, too advanced, a real weirdo with its 2-Layer Transistor Pixel technology. We just have to wait for real compatibility.
Great video bro 💯....If possible test Vivo X100 pro with all these apps.
Hello Hasnat, and thank you! I would love to test with the X100, but that's a hard device to get in the states. I doubt I'll be able to test it out. Sorry! One day, when the channel is larger, I hope to be able to test a wider range of phones!
wow great review
Thanks IcyTamagotchi! I hoped it might be helpful for someone. I'm working on my full review of the Open right now.
can you make a guide on how to shoot on motioncam and stabilize the video with gyroflow data
Hmmm. I have not attempted that yet, I'll take a look though.
Gyroflow v1.5.4
Oh. I think you should try test info version of mc pro 24 fps
Hello Borsh! I'm not sure what the info version is?
Please make a video on s23 ultra
Hello Newlearner! Unfortunately, I don't have time to squeeze a specific S23 Ultra review into my RUclips schedule, but I did compare it to the OnePlus 11 earlier in the year. That might be helpful ruclips.net/video/vzlEvCVv728/видео.html
Did you use the Blackmagic log on the Dng?
Hello Eduarth, for my CST node: input color space-DaVinci Wide Gamut, input gamma-DaVinci intermediate, output color space-rec.709, Output Gamma-Gamma 2.5
motioncam stays winning. jesus christ it's not even close
MotionCam is a beastly camera app, just not practical to shoot RAW all the time. Filmic and MCPro still certainly have a place and are more mature in terms of UI and integrations with other hardware/software. But yeah, MotionCam is my favorite to film with for what I shoot 80% of the time.
@@phonecomp hey if you ever have the time or interest, you should cover "AMVR mobile video". idk exactly what it is, but it seems like a similar project to motioncam but with a priority on saving space.
I have Motioncam and MCPro24 and both can look virtually identical to each other after post work. If you record in 10 bit H.265 with a bitrate of around 300 mbps you can get very good results with MCPro24 on a capable smartphone like a S23 Ultra for example. In fact it has far less noise and preserves details better than Motioncam RAW even with Motioncam's denoiser turned on. Highlights and shadow detail is also preserved very well in MCPro24. Maybe Motioncam has a slight edge in well lit conditions, but in lower light I have to give it to MCPro24 due to vastly less noise and more detail.
Overall with correct exposure and lighting you can make both look equally as good in post. It's just that working with RAW files isn't very practical so MCPro24 gets more use from me due to looking about as good with much smaller file sizes, though as said earlier in lower light conditions MCPro24 has the edge. And I say all this as someone who has been a Motioncam fanboy in the past.
@@03chrisv i've never seen a comparison of processed shit coming close to raw video
@nbshftr You can turn off all sorts of processing in MCPro24. You can turn denoising completely off, sharpening completely off, chromatic aberration correction off, etc etc as well as crank up the bitrate way past what the stock native camera apps in phones usually provide. Literally the only difference at this point is that RAW is uncompressed, though a high enough bitrate can look about as good as RAW since compression technology is quite good nowadays.
Sony's FX3, the camera used to make the movie The Creator, usually records between 200mbps to 300mbps at 4k 30. That's not even close to Cinema RAW DNG's through-put, yet it's a good enough bitrate to be used in big budget Hollywood productions. I think 4k Blurays top out at like 120mbps bitrates, yet MCPro24 let's you go all the way up to 500mbps. The difference in quality between a high bitrate video with image processing turned off vs a RAW video is basically zero.