Now finally i understand that every LOG and Gamut actually emulates every famous camera brands. I wish mcpro devs could release some guide or documentation about what LOG and Gamut stands for, so that people who will use it for the first time would not be confused on the setting of the app.
Thank you a lot, as a novice I can tell you that you explain very well and clearly all the process from using Mcpro24fps settings to the final steps of color grading.
I appreciate the kind words Arnauld! I'll be releasing another video soon on how to shoot and work with 10-bit video with MCpro24fps and Davinci Resolve
Thank you for this video! 🙏 I am using this app and motion cam pro. I like mcpro24 simply because of digital stabilization for run and gun shooting and this video is helpful.
Thanks man, yeah I know, I've been using the app for more than 2 years and it took me awhile to fully wrap my head around it too. But once you get it, wow, it's such a powerful tool!
@@scavengers4205 finally, here's my davinci resolve tutorial on how to correct and grade mcpro24fps Log footage: ruclips.net/video/HC8iztzfNhY/видео.html
Yeah its a HDR metadata problem. Your phone isn't viewing it the proper way but when you take it into an editing program like Davinci Resolve it will display the colors properly (not saturated)
A few users have mentioned that sometimes there's a tendency for mcpro footage to have an orangey tint. I haven't noticed it myself with my device. Could be a device-specific problem.
@@sergey9818 as promised (though more than 2 weeks) here is my tutorial on how to color correct and grade mcpro24fps Log footage: ruclips.net/video/HC8iztzfNhY/видео.html
I understand that the profiles They are opaque at first, but they are capturing more information, and during the editing process, we can perform Color grading in the best possible way, without losing quality or sharpness. The question is, do you know of any video lessons out there that teach how to do this? I mean, I'm learning about mcpro24fps now, and that's really interesting, I know I can make excellent videos On my smartphone, but I have no idea what to do with these profiles... A
I cant make Davinci Wide and Davinci Color look like anything in Davinci. Do you have a tutorial where you turn log footage into a decent image in Davinci (or any app)?
can you make a video about which gamut to use with which log profile? suppose, do we have to use s-gamut for mS-log profiles or we can use sRGB/Rec709?
Technically you could use any gamut and gamma curve (log profile) but the pairings in the samples I showed where the intended combinations as recommended by the developers.
My Pixel 7 Pro is experiencing posterization when recording video in log color mode. All log profiles have this issue, except for the auto mode. Please assist me; if I can't record in log, I might have wasted money on this app.
The demo app is a good indicator of what features your phone device is capable of. Some phones are just limited in their hardware too shoot things like Log or 10bit video.
I did make a video on MotionCam back when it was still in beta ruclips.net/video/DX1FEtEnt5Y/видео.html Need to make a new video coz a lot of new features have been added
These videos are so helpful, RJ, thanks so much. I've question: I thought of using Android's screencast option to monitor the in-camera image on a laptop, and I was wondering might it be possible to see the monitored image in standard, Rec.709 while my phone records in MLOG?
Thanks friend. Regarding your question, i'm thinking it wont work like that since a screencast is essentially mirroring. But its worth a try! I'll give it a try myself
@@RJBaculo Thanks RJ.. yeah, you're right. But at the very least, having it mirrored on a larger display helps to assess the live image better; awesome as MCPro24FPS is, the UI kinda clutters the screen a tad.
Sorry if this is a dumb question as I'm new to this, but for all your log examples, it says your ISO was 50 and shutter at 1/1600 for all tests - did you mean the other way around? I thought shutter was supposed to be 180 over fps. thanks!
Hi there. Yes, ideally a shutter speed of 1/50 or 1/48 (for 24fps) is perfect for cinematic natural motion blur but I was shooting outdoors in the brightest noonday sunlight and did not bring an ND filter with me on that particular shoot. So I had to resort to cranking the shutter speed super fast to minimize the light exposure and the ISO 50 was the lowest ISO setting of that device.
If your phone doesn't support 10-bit at all, then there's no way around it. But if your phone does support 10-bit then you have to turn off GPU in Mcpro to access it.
Its an amazing and revolutionary app! Sadly, since I've switched to the iPhone 14 Pro, my older Samsung S10 (Exynos chipset) doesn't work so well with the Raw video capabilities of the app. Wish I had a more recent Android phone to really get the best out of MotionCam
This was really helpful thank you soo much.... Also how do i shoot in 10 bit on this app?... And since u mentioned that turning off GPU allows us to shoot in 10bit does that mean i can shoot 10bit HDR on smartphones using midrange chipsets like the redmi note 10 pro?
Hi Abner, to shoot in 10-bit you'll have to turn off GPU, change the codec to HVEC and then select 10bits for COLOR DEPTH. I believe as long as your Redmi phone uses a Snapdragon chipset (no more than 3 years old) you should have 10 bit available.
In MotionCam there's more color information since its Raw, and also its actually less sharper, because thats the natural image before the smartphone software oversharpens it
iPhone-type cell phones use good camera applications such as BlackMagic, Cinema P3 and ProMovie, but there was a lack of good camera applications for Android-type cell phones. MCPro 24 FPS has arrived to solve this problem.
You can still use LOG for 8-bit video shooting. 8-bit just means you have less wiggle space when it comes to color correcting/grading than 10-bit. I would recommend a Log profile that isnt too flat or extreme. The mLog 80% is a good one for 8bit
@@RJBaculo I'm new to all of this and I will be starting to use my Pixel 6 Pro on my Diving trips to shoot video underwater. Its only 8-bit so here you suggest the mLog80% what about the gamma curve that you mentioned what would be a good one to combine with the mLog80% or should I just go 709 all the way? Also with mcpro24fps are you allowed to set shooting profiles presets Like if I want a preset for when i'm videoing on land and another preset for underwater or do I have to set them manually each time I get ready to film?
Thanks for the great video! I've been using this app for a couple of years now and absolutely love it. The problem is that the focus doesn't seem to work properly on my Samsung Note 20 Ultra, in that it can't focus to infinity, so I can't focus on distant objects. Are you aware of this issue, and do you know if it exists with the S23 Ultra?
On Android, this is the cheapest (and one-time payment own forever) app that can shoot in Log. The other alternatives are subscription-based apps like Protake (expensive) and Filmic Pro (super expensive)
A gimmick is something flashy with no substance and made to appeal to the masses. This app has technical features only advanced users and serious filmmakers would appreciate. And compared to the other pro apps with expensive subscription models, I'd say it's good value.
Now finally i understand that every LOG and Gamut actually emulates every famous camera brands. I wish mcpro devs could release some guide or documentation about what LOG and Gamut stands for, so that people who will use it for the first time would not be confused on the setting of the app.
They do have a full technical guide, you can find it here: www.mcpro24fps.com/full-guide-for-the-application/
Ohhh okay i see it now, and wow they really detail it on how they emulate those LOGS
@@RJBaculo Thank you.😊
Thank you a lot, as a novice I can tell you that you explain very well and clearly all the process from using Mcpro24fps settings to the final steps of color grading.
I appreciate the kind words Arnauld! I'll be releasing another video soon on how to shoot and work with 10-bit video with MCpro24fps and Davinci Resolve
I finally got around to doing that 10-bit video tutorial: ruclips.net/video/VdIdY-a3U1s/видео.html
Here's a new video I made on how to shoot 10-bit video on Androids: ruclips.net/video/VdIdY-a3U1s/видео.html
@@RJBaculo Thank you. I just decided to change my "old" Pixel 4a for a 10 bit capable smartphone, so your video is released at the right time :-)
I just wanted to thank you for your videos , they're very helpful . Thanks
No worries. Glad they helped
Thank you for this video! 🙏 I am using this app and motion cam pro. I like mcpro24 simply because of digital stabilization for run and gun shooting and this video is helpful.
seriously this really help me understand about the log at this app. thanks man
Thanks man, yeah I know, I've been using the app for more than 2 years and it took me awhile to fully wrap my head around it too. But once you get it, wow, it's such a powerful tool!
@@RJBaculo yeah me too, almost 2 years i used this apps. anyway, please make video how you graded in resolve.
@@scavengers4205 finally, here's my davinci resolve tutorial on how to correct and grade mcpro24fps Log footage: ruclips.net/video/HC8iztzfNhY/видео.html
i have a question y have the app in 2024 in a pixel 7 pro, but only have the second option teh firs or gammut doesn't exist, only curve, why?
Wow this is ferfect complete tutorial ,thanks for your sharing sir
Thanks, i appreciate the positive feedback!
I like the way you say "perfect".
The 10 bit color setting in the app on LG V60 comes out oversaturated no matter what the settings. Any ideas?
Yeah its a HDR metadata problem. Your phone isn't viewing it the proper way but when you take it into an editing program like Davinci Resolve it will display the colors properly (not saturated)
I don´t have the icon to change the type of gamma or color space. Does anyone know why it could be?
Thanks for this. There are just so many settings in here that I'm never really sure what to choose so I've been sticking with Protake and FiLMiC Pro.
Yeah I really went through their detailed user manual and it helped a lot to wrap my head around it 😅
@@RJBaculo yes, the user manual helps a lot with this app and how to set up for a shot.
When I shoot on indoors I got weird temperature or RGB light rays on shadows
Great for color grading, but for some reason my footage using LOG profiles has always some sort of red color tint or whatever in the footage.
A few users have mentioned that sometimes there's a tendency for mcpro footage to have an orangey tint. I haven't noticed it myself with my device. Could be a device-specific problem.
Thank you! But, what to do next with this log video? Please show the next step to get a beautiful final video shot (premier and/or davinci)
Thanks Sergey! Yes, I'll be releasing a follow-up color grading video to this in 2 weeks! Stick around!
@@RJBaculo time has slowed down... by 2 weeks...
@@sergey9818 as promised (though more than 2 weeks) here is my tutorial on how to color correct and grade mcpro24fps Log footage: ruclips.net/video/HC8iztzfNhY/видео.html
@@RJBaculo thx bro, tomorrow I'll see it tutorial. Until then I'll like it without looking!)
Hi I have a oneplus10 T and it has the function under film to shoot in log will i need this app if I have log on my phone already ?
I believe every app does Log differently. Try and experiment if you like the results.
good job man!
Thanks man!
Amazing work!🔥
Thanks! Much appreciated!
which software you use to edit h265 file ? ihave to shoot in 10 bit log... i have s23 ultra... please help me with some settings...
Davinci Resolve! 👍🏼
I understand that the profiles They are opaque at first, but they are capturing more information, and during the editing process, we can perform Color grading in the best possible way, without losing quality or sharpness.
The question is, do you know of any video lessons out there that teach how to do this? I mean, I'm learning about mcpro24fps now, and that's really interesting, I know I can make excellent videos On my smartphone, but I have no idea what to do with these profiles...
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I cant make Davinci Wide and Davinci Color look like anything in Davinci. Do you have a tutorial where you turn log footage into a decent image in Davinci (or any app)?
I made that exact tutorial right here:
ruclips.net/video/HC8iztzfNhY/видео.html Hope it helps! 😎
can you make a video about which gamut to use with which log profile? suppose, do we have to use s-gamut for mS-log profiles or we can use sRGB/Rec709?
Technically you could use any gamut and gamma curve (log profile) but the pairings in the samples I showed where the intended combinations as recommended by the developers.
@@RJBaculo okay, thanks
My Pixel 7 Pro is experiencing posterization when recording video in log color mode. All log profiles have this issue, except for the auto mode. Please assist me; if I can't record in log, I might have wasted money on this app.
You can contact the developers and if they cant help you they might be able to refund you.
I found out about this awesome app through your videos. Thanks a lot! Btw what is the Dot Density in the logs setting?
when I choose GPU I can choose only 8bit at the same time... Samsung S24 Ultra - is it ok?
Typically, 10-bit video becomes enabled when you turn off GPU
@@RJBaculo so it's ok I guess..) thx
I am playing with the demo app and it is somewhat different than yours, and there is no log options.
The demo app is a good indicator of what features your phone device is capable of. Some phones are just limited in their hardware too shoot things like Log or 10bit video.
Would 10bit video be supported when choosing wide angle camera ?
This would depend per phone device. But generally, it should work with the wide camera.
Can you make video about MotionCam?
It record Cinematic grade RAW DNG
I did make a video on MotionCam back when it was still in beta ruclips.net/video/DX1FEtEnt5Y/видео.html Need to make a new video coz a lot of new features have been added
These videos are so helpful, RJ, thanks so much.
I've question: I thought of using Android's screencast option to monitor the in-camera image on a laptop, and I was wondering might it be possible to see the monitored image in standard, Rec.709 while my phone records in MLOG?
Thanks friend. Regarding your question, i'm thinking it wont work like that since a screencast is essentially mirroring. But its worth a try! I'll give it a try myself
@@RJBaculo Thanks RJ.. yeah, you're right. But at the very least, having it mirrored on a larger display helps to assess the live image better; awesome as MCPro24FPS is, the UI kinda clutters the screen a tad.
Does capcut work with this. Davinci would be my 2nd choice as I am a beginner blogger.
Capcut is a great editing program but As far as I know, Capcut doesnt allow importing LUTs.
It does.
Oh ok thats awesome
is that the paid version? The settings on the app that I downloaded is somehow different to your video
The interface has changed since the time of this video. I'll be doing a more updated tutorial soon.
Excellent video. I turned off GPU, selected HEVC, but I don't find the option for selecting bit depth. Have you faced that? I am on a SD 8 gen 1
Very odd, considering its the latest SD8 Gen 1! What brand/model smartphone are you using?
Sorry if this is a dumb question as I'm new to this, but for all your log examples, it says your ISO was 50 and shutter at 1/1600 for all tests - did you mean the other way around? I thought shutter was supposed to be 180 over fps. thanks!
Hi there. Yes, ideally a shutter speed of 1/50 or 1/48 (for 24fps) is perfect for cinematic natural motion blur but I was shooting outdoors in the brightest noonday sunlight and did not bring an ND filter with me on that particular shoot. So I had to resort to cranking the shutter speed super fast to minimize the light exposure and the ISO 50 was the lowest ISO setting of that device.
Very informative
Thanks. Im glad it was helpful
Idol! If u have time, did u try using field monitor with mcpro24fps? Does the field monitor Features work? Like false color?
Good idea! I'm curious too! I'll try it out this month when i get my new field monitor
So it is better to turn off GPU if my phone support 10 bit? If my phone not support 10 bit, so I turn on GPU to get the "10 bit"?
If your phone doesn't support 10-bit at all, then there's no way around it. But if your phone does support 10-bit then you have to turn off GPU in Mcpro to access it.
Here's a better explanation on how to use 10-bit video in mcpro24fps: ruclips.net/video/VdIdY-a3U1s/видео.html
@@RJBaculo very detail explanation
Can we do color grade log footage with smartphone?
Yes you can. There's a few apps like VideoLUT, Grain and Dehancer.
What is your review of motioncam pro app.
Its an amazing and revolutionary app! Sadly, since I've switched to the iPhone 14 Pro, my older Samsung S10 (Exynos chipset) doesn't work so well with the Raw video capabilities of the app. Wish I had a more recent Android phone to really get the best out of MotionCam
@RJ Baculo how rating you'll give to mc24fps n motioncam.
Really helped me
Glad to help!
if I disable the GPU, then it disables all gammut, log, etc options, so the app becomes useless...
What phone/model are you using?
@@RJBaculo I'm using a mi 9T, and tried it on a mi 11T pro, and it was the same. Thanks for the answer ^_^
This was really helpful thank you soo much.... Also how do i shoot in 10 bit on this app?... And since u mentioned that turning off GPU allows us to shoot in 10bit does that mean i can shoot 10bit HDR on smartphones using midrange chipsets like the redmi note 10 pro?
Hi Abner, to shoot in 10-bit you'll have to turn off GPU, change the codec to HVEC and then select 10bits for COLOR DEPTH. I believe as long as your Redmi phone uses a Snapdragon chipset (no more than 3 years old) you should have 10 bit available.
Hey did you manage to get 10-bit on the Redmi Note 10 Pro? Because I couldn't find the option.
Here is a tutorial i just made on how to shoot 10-bit video on Androids: ruclips.net/video/VdIdY-a3U1s/видео.html
Please, make a new video of it with the latest version of MCP version, the UI and function its quite different now. Thank you. 🙌🙌
Yes that is a good idea. I will definitely do that. Thanks!
Thank you so much, it will be amazing RJB@@RJBaculo
Filmic pro vs mcpro24 vs motioncam which one do you recommend?
Mcpro24fps and motioncam needs more technical know-how and post production time. Filmic Pro is good for all round.
What about proshot?
MotionCam provides more details, right? (I don't care for file sizes) :)
In MotionCam there's more color information since its Raw, and also its actually less sharper, because thats the natural image before the smartphone software oversharpens it
iPhone-type cell phones use good camera applications such as BlackMagic, Cinema P3 and ProMovie, but there was a lack of good camera applications for Android-type cell phones. MCPro 24 FPS has arrived to solve this problem.
💯!
This app is a slap to iPhone 😂😂. It can even produce good footage from average android phones
Thanks a lot, it came realy in Handy
Awesome to hear!
Is it recommended log profiles for 8-bit video shooting? Or just for 10-bit? Which profile can you recommend for 8-bit video shooting?
You can still use LOG for 8-bit video shooting. 8-bit just means you have less wiggle space when it comes to color correcting/grading than 10-bit. I would recommend a Log profile that isnt too flat or extreme. The mLog 80% is a good one for 8bit
@@RJBaculo I'm new to all of this and I will be starting to use my Pixel 6 Pro on my Diving trips to shoot video underwater. Its only 8-bit so here you suggest the mLog80% what about the gamma curve that you mentioned what would be a good one to combine with the mLog80% or should I just go 709 all the way? Also with mcpro24fps are you allowed to set shooting profiles presets Like if I want a preset for when i'm videoing on land and another preset for underwater or do I have to set them manually each time I get ready to film?
Wow ❤
Thanks for the great video!
I've been using this app for a couple of years now and absolutely love it. The problem is that the focus doesn't seem to work properly on my Samsung Note 20 Ultra, in that it can't focus to infinity, so I can't focus on distant objects. Are you aware of this issue, and do you know if it exists with the S23 Ultra?
Hi Josh, yeah thats such a weird flaw, first time I heard that issue. I'm guessing the S23 Ultra should have any bugs like that sorted out.
Yes yes yassssssssss!!!!!
Thanks brotha! Pax tibi!
The app you recommend is so expensive. Most of us doesn't have the money to pay it.
On Android, this is the cheapest (and one-time payment own forever) app that can shoot in Log. The other alternatives are subscription-based apps like Protake (expensive) and Filmic Pro (super expensive)
friend never again use your this background sound is impossible to watch your video with headphone.....
Sorry about that friend. Next time 👍🏼
@@RJBaculo sorry i forgot say your video is amazing...only the background sounds was not good for who see in headphone....i don't want to be rude
Don't buy that app. It's a gimmick 😅
A gimmick is something flashy with no substance and made to appeal to the masses. This app has technical features only advanced users and serious filmmakers would appreciate. And compared to the other pro apps with expensive subscription models, I'd say it's good value.