I literally JUST sent mcpro24fps a note 20 minutes ago, asking them to explain the In's and Out's about Color Profiles in their recent update. You Sir, just answered my question. Thank you. Dropped BigLike#24.
Terrific, a whole new topic (grading in post) opened up to me and explained brilliantly. Thanks Simon. And also yet another plus for me using Mcpro24fps rather than Filmic (being an Android guy).
New sub. I have been trying to figure out the relationship between the log feature, codec, and what application will make use of it for a few days, on and off. This video just filled in all the gaps. Thank you.
Brilliant - an excellent explanation of how the various pull possibilities work. I was grateful too for the explanation of the A and B for white balance. I’ve been wondering what they were all about and wondering how to fix my white balance. Thank you
Excellent demo. Most of this comes down to considered choices, and each shoot underlined with as informed a set of decisions as possible without forgetting the main event: getting well composed footage under any and all (including lousy/adversarial) lighting conditions. LumaFusion is such a creative mobile editing platform, I sometimes forget that it has a number of excellent bread and butter video treatment processes available. Thank you!
@@nomadicaffan hey, the iPhone 12 Pro Max in Filmic Pro can shoot 10-bit at 60fps only in 1080HD resolution. 2K and 4K at 10-bit is limited to 24, 25 and 30fps.
Hello Simon, great tutorial 2 years later I have a question. :) In the Open Camera App I see a list of Log - picture profiles. Do you have a video explaining these in more detail? Thanks
Question - I film using Wireless Go as audio input to the lightning port on my iPhone 12 Pro. Can I use both the remote control start/stop gadget and Bluetooth monitoring headphones?
@@SiHorrocks is there an iPhone or Android app that can let you do film stills simulation recipes so you can set them on your phone, so when you pick up your smartphone, you can shoot Fuji Provia, Fuji Acros or Kodak Portra etc, I know about lightroom but I don't want a subscription app plus I have Fimo, I want something to customise on my phone so my phone will simulate Fujifilm colour etc
At 1:24 of this video (accessed Dec 27, 2020), an algorithm is mentioned as a logarithm function, say, V_out = A*(V_in)^gamma, or V_out = c*log(1 + V_in). This makes FiLMiC LogV2 feed out silky-smooth color grade. This is the spell. But FiLMiC LogV2 is different from conventional 8-bit logarithm gamma encoding. I will be grateful if a reply is made sometime to show the difference in terms of algorithm and determination of parameter / constant.
Is there a way to record longer videos on FilmIC Pro? Every time I do, it either doesn't save and gives me an error, or saves in the FilIC roll but is unreadable by any software I can find.
is there an iPhone or Android app that can let you do film stills simulation recipes so you can set them on your phone, so when you pick up your smartphone, you can shoot Fuji Provia, Fuji Acros or Kodak Portra etc, I know about lightroom but I don't want a subscription app plus I have Fimo, I want something to customise on my phone so my phone will simulate Fujifilm colour etc
Hi Simon! why can't i use mcpro24fps technical luts in premiere? it tells me they are invalid files ... I'm going crazy because it doesn't recognize them even though they are .cube files
@@SiHorrocks thanks alot sir fir the reply just tell me one last thing that "have your transferred file from your samsung note to your T5 SSD and accessed it on your iPad? Please answer this because that's what I was asking since then
Hi.... you have an amazing information about Filmic Pro... and I am wondering if you could answer two questions about it... I downloaded it to my iphone X... also downloaded the cinematographic add on... the first question is... can I access to the 10 bit log profile or I just need to settle with the 8 bit depth log... and the second one is... if I download the remote control to my Samsung S8+, I could control the Iphone X or those are uncompatible... thanks a lot and have a great day...
Hello, Simon! Thanks for this video! Lots of advice that I will for sure use in my next production. I have one question though. If I am planning to use a black & white LUT and then grade it a little more with the help of Filmconvert, would you recommend that I shoot in Flat or LogV2? It's going to be in a roof, so probably sunny or a slight chance that it might be cloudy. I own an iPhone 11 Pro Max and Filmic Pro Legacy. Thanks!
How do you transfer the video files from the Samsung to the Ipad ? As one system is Android the other IOS. Possible to make a short video demonstration. Keep up the great work.
fantastic video thank you we learn so much how we can edit this logs on android platform luma fusion is only available for ios; make a video for android users
Great video on let's and settings I think you do a lot with smartphones and I think I heard that you said you teach film do you have any videos on other cameras like GoPro black magic Sony pro Sumer or anything that's just standard video cameras?
Great video!! I’m also finding noise an issue in low light when shooting log. I’ll keep trying as it truly seems LOG is the way to go. Especially with the new logV3 just released. Will you be doing a LogV3 video? Cheers!
Good day sir I really appreciate your videos is very helpful can you please tell me which one will you recommend it for smartphone for wedding shooting
@@SiHorrocks Thank you so much for reply I'm asking for which any model phone you are recommended right now I'm using Samsung Note 10 but problem was when I'm moving my camera with DJI Osmo 3 video is thrilling
@@SiHorrocks Samsung Note 10 but I am using DJI Osmo 3 mimo app I want perfect wedding video for 1080p almost one month I'm research so still confused I'm going to iPhone and Android please assist me which one better for me
Excellent video! Can see a few comments on here complaining about a noise issue in low-light with log - I'm still on the 11 Pro Max so not on 10 bit yet but I've found the solution is to shoot on the lowest possible ISO. Obviouslt then you have to consider your lighting setup a bit more but its really helped me with noise reduction.
Hello sir, I've tried both filmic pro and mc24 on my android, however when I use any of the Log profiles I get horrible purple and green banding in shadow areas that won't go away even after applying luts, what could be the possible reason?
Would it be possible if a smartphone hardware couldn't take advantage of shooting in Log and better just use the standard? Mine, de-log and standard just look the same 😂
Doesn't work with a phone, it's not in fact a true logarithmic footage because the cameras of phones do not have the required dynamic range. You will end up overexposing highlights or underexposing shadows, plus you record in 8-bit not-RAW, disallowing for further recovery of details in the chroma/luma ratio when color grading. There's a reason why camera (sensor) size matters.
Impacted by that limitation, but…use your eyes nonetheless. If the images (pre or post processed) look different, better or worse, well. It means that, effectively, they are. Choices have to be made. The phones are capable of getting good, creative footage if you know how to use them.
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New video: how to shoot 10-bit log on a smartphone: ruclips.net/video/UEedYitrSiw/видео.html
I literally JUST sent mcpro24fps a note 20 minutes ago, asking them to explain the In's and Out's about Color Profiles in their recent update. You Sir, just answered my question. Thank you. Dropped BigLike#24.
Finally "Log" explained perfectly!!! Been trying to wrap my head around how to film log on my phone. Awesome videos as always... thanks Simon 👍🏻
Just started this hobby again after 5yrs. I've been learning so much from your channel the past week. Thank you, excellent channel.
Very good explanation mate. Really helpful thank you for sharing this info with everybody in an interactive way.
Terrific, a whole new topic (grading in post) opened up to me and explained brilliantly. Thanks Simon. And also yet another plus for me using Mcpro24fps rather than Filmic (being an Android guy).
This video is amazing! Very well explained for someone that has no clue what's going on! Thank you for your work!
You're very welcome!
Thank you a lot for another video. It would be cool to go in depth with mcpro24fps in the future.
YOU ARE NOW MY TEACHER 👍
There are many silent followers too like me :). By the way, he is the great choice
I'm a beginner with Filmic Pro and did not understand LOG. Thank you!
This helps, I mostly use my smartphone to record my RUclips videos and this has corrected some mistakes I made.
You got a new subscriber!
New sub. I have been trying to figure out the relationship between the log feature, codec, and what application will make use of it for a few days, on and off. This video just filled in all the gaps. Thank you.
Love your videos!! I've learned so much from you. Thank you!! ♡
This is so helpful tutorial. Now, everything makes sense to me about log profiles. Thanks!
Which log option in best for closeup shots.&wide shot
The cake comparisson was amazing ! congratulation sir, and thanks for sharing!
Brilliant - an excellent explanation of how the various pull possibilities work. I was grateful too for the explanation of the A and B for white balance. I’ve been wondering what they were all about and wondering how to fix my white balance. Thank you
Excellent demo. Most of this comes down to considered choices, and each shoot underlined with as informed a set of decisions as possible without forgetting the main event: getting well composed footage under any and all (including lousy/adversarial) lighting conditions. LumaFusion is such a creative mobile editing platform, I sometimes forget that it has a number of excellent bread and butter video treatment processes available. Thank you!
Filmic Pro now has 10bit Log V3 on high end devices.
I know. I was going to include it in this video, but I decided to make a separate video
@Chris today ;)
@Chris on Iphone 12 or Iphone 12 pro max? I would like to know, Iphone 12 pro max supports 10 bit log 3 upto 60 fps or not?
@@nomadicaffan hey, the iPhone 12 Pro Max in Filmic Pro can shoot 10-bit at 60fps only in 1080HD resolution. 2K and 4K at 10-bit is limited to 24, 25 and 30fps.
Why I can shoot dng format on photo and not same thing with video no app can shoot with cdng format?!!
I needed this info information so much. Clear, simple and straight information. Thanks for the awesome video Mr.Simon.
An excellent and informative video Simon.
Wow, I didn’t understand everything you said but this is the best video that explains video grading. Thank you so much. Outstanding job!!!
Thanks a lot for this comprehensive explanation. Very well presented! Now I have a lot to digest...
your videos are highly detailed, easily understandable, appreciate your hard work 🤜🤛
you are great man. i learn a lot from your videos, and it is free!!
thank you so much master
Wow, thanks Simon that was awesome. I learned so much. I only knew a little about log. That must have taken a while to make, it was a lot of work.
Thank you. They do take a bit of work
Hello Simon, great tutorial 2 years later I have a question. :)
In the Open Camera App I see a list of Log - picture profiles. Do you have a video explaining these in more detail?
Thanks
Thank you, Thank you, Thank you… Wow your explanation makes a lot of sense and helps myself a ton!
please make a detailed video specifically on using the log profile, the 0, 128 and 255 values on the histogram, how to set what
Question - I film using Wireless Go as audio input to the lightning port on my iPhone 12 Pro. Can I use both the remote control start/stop gadget and Bluetooth monitoring headphones?
thanks a lot for all the explanation!
Very well explained! I still find LOGV2 a bit of a gamble with noise but maybe a bit more experimenting is in order.
Thanks! There does seem to be more noise problem with iPhones
It's still a super tiny sensor. Only so much can be done about noise on a sensor that is like 1/4" by 1/4". I feel your pain!
@@JonathanAyers Yeah it's quite frustrating. Just have to maximise what the smartphone can do and try to hide the things it can't.
@@SiHorrocks is there an iPhone or Android app that can let you do film stills simulation recipes so you can set them on your phone, so when you pick up your smartphone, you can shoot Fuji Provia, Fuji Acros or Kodak Portra etc, I know about lightroom but I don't want a subscription app plus I have Fimo, I want something to customise on my phone so my phone will simulate Fujifilm colour etc
Well done examples
Best log explanation I’ve seen. Do you have a video on using colour charts with lumafusion?
Great information very clearly presented!
Amazing tutorial. Thank you so much!
Can this be done with the "pro video" option in Samsung?
Samsung Pro Mode has no log setting.
At 1:24 of this video (accessed Dec 27, 2020), an algorithm is mentioned as a logarithm function, say, V_out = A*(V_in)^gamma, or V_out = c*log(1 + V_in). This makes FiLMiC LogV2 feed out silky-smooth color grade. This is the spell. But FiLMiC LogV2 is different from conventional 8-bit logarithm gamma encoding. I will be grateful if a reply is made sometime to show the difference in terms of algorithm and determination of parameter / constant.
very good explanation
Is there a way to record longer videos on FilmIC Pro? Every time I do, it either doesn't save and gives me an error, or saves in the FilIC roll but is unreadable by any software I can find.
join our fb group and put the question there. We have lots of knowledgable filmic pro users facebook.com/groups/mobilefilmakers
Very informative!❤️❤️
Great explanation of LOG, thanks.
is there an iPhone or Android app that can let you do film stills simulation recipes so you can set them on your phone, so when you pick up your smartphone, you can shoot Fuji Provia, Fuji Acros or Kodak Portra etc, I know about lightroom but I don't want a subscription app plus I have Fimo, I want something to customise on my phone so my phone will simulate Fujifilm colour etc
02:45 Hmmm is that Hove Museum? Nice
I am so confused,
Should I be in auto WB or manually adjust WB while recording in log?
Hi Simon! why can't i use mcpro24fps technical luts in premiere? it tells me they are invalid files ... I'm going crazy because it doesn't recognize them even though they are .cube files
Master class
How did you transfer your footage from your android phone to your iPad?
With Google drive
Love your videos
thank you ☺️
How do you put video files from samsung note to ipad if the file size is bigger than 50 gb ?
maybe use an app which allows android to iOS transfer and connect the devices via a cable
@@SiHorrocks can we somehow use put the file in a SSD storage and access it on ipad ? Will ipad Support?
@@Desibatman903 my Samsung T5 ssd connects to my ipad
@@SiHorrocks thanks alot sir fir the reply just tell me one last thing that "have your transferred file from your samsung note to your T5 SSD and accessed it on your iPad?
Please answer this because that's what I was asking since then
really good tutorial sir. appreciate it.
Hi.... you have an amazing information about Filmic Pro... and I am wondering if you could answer two questions about it... I downloaded it to my iphone X... also downloaded the cinematographic add on... the first question is... can I access to the 10 bit log profile or I just need to settle with the 8 bit depth log... and the second one is... if I download the remote control to my Samsung S8+, I could control the Iphone X or those are uncompatible... thanks a lot and have a great day...
Hello, Simon! Thanks for this video! Lots of advice that I will for sure use in my next production. I have one question though. If I am planning to use a black & white LUT and then grade it a little more with the help of Filmconvert, would you recommend that I shoot in Flat or LogV2? It's going to be in a roof, so probably sunny or a slight chance that it might be cloudy. I own an iPhone 11 Pro Max and Filmic Pro Legacy. Thanks!
The problem with my huawei p30 pro.. i don't see the LOG settings
Can you tell me are you really used phone at 3:17 ...?
yes. I used a Samsung S9. That shot is from episode 5 of our Silent Eye series: geni.us/LaeOy
plus the Moondog Labs anamorphic
@@SiHorrocks you mean the entire video recorded using Samsung s9...?
@@madhu1005 no, that shot of the buildings was shot on an S9
@@madhu1005 the entire Silent Eye series on Amazon prime was shot using S8 and S9 devices
How do you transfer the video files from the Samsung to the Ipad ? As one system is Android the other IOS. Possible to make a short video demonstration. Keep up the great work.
My nephew gave me his 'old' Galaxy S10+, I'm going to give this a try. Which app though Filmic or MCpro?
In my opinion McPro24 is better, i'm using this over year.
fantastic video thank you we learn so much
how we can edit this logs on android platform
luma fusion is only available for ios;
make a video for android users
Great video on let's and settings I think you do a lot with smartphones and I think I heard that you said you teach film do you have any videos on other cameras like GoPro black magic Sony pro Sumer or anything that's just standard video cameras?
I made a list of my favourites: ruclips.net/video/g4NiZEMPLZI/видео.html
Great video!! I’m also finding noise an issue in low light when shooting log. I’ll keep trying as it truly seems LOG is the way to go. Especially with the new logV3 just released.
Will you be doing a LogV3 video? Cheers!
Thanks! I think some people only use log for daylight shots. I will do a 10 bit log video soon
@@SiHorrocks awesome!! I look forward to it!! Merry Christmas!
Thank you very much
Delog able on ios app?
When shooting at log my screen become black and nothing in showing what can I do?
amazing thankj you so much!
Good day sir
I really appreciate your videos is very helpful can you please tell me which one will you recommend it for smartphone for wedding shooting
McPro24fps seems more stable in my experience
@@SiHorrocks
Thank you so much for reply I'm asking for which any model phone you are recommended right now I'm using Samsung Note 10 but problem was when I'm moving my camera with DJI Osmo 3 video is thrilling
@@sunnystudios_za a smaller Samsung?
@@SiHorrocks Samsung Note 10 but I am using DJI Osmo 3 mimo app I want perfect wedding video for 1080p almost one month I'm research so still confused I'm going to iPhone and Android please assist me which one better for me
Wonderful!!!
I honestly don't know if anybody can explain that better. I feel like I should be paying for this information
Excellent video! Can see a few comments on here complaining about a noise issue in low-light with log - I'm still on the 11 Pro Max so not on 10 bit yet but I've found the solution is to shoot on the lowest possible ISO. Obviouslt then you have to consider your lighting setup a bit more but its really helped me with noise reduction.
Hello sir, I've tried both filmic pro and mc24 on my android, however when I use any of the Log profiles I get horrible purple and green banding in shadow areas that won't go away even after applying luts, what could be the possible reason?
what device are you using?
Why aren’t you using log V3?
Thanks thanks thanks.
perfect:)
How can I shoot log video in android??
Would it be possible if a smartphone hardware couldn't take advantage of shooting in Log and better just use the standard?
Mine, de-log and standard just look the same 😂
0:39 dont tell me u recorded in 720p
Update to v34
The difference between 8-bit vs 10-bit is NOT quite "a" bit different.
It is, in fact, TWO bits different xD
Doesn't work with a phone, it's not in fact a true logarithmic footage because the cameras of phones do not have the required dynamic range. You will end up overexposing highlights or underexposing shadows, plus you record in 8-bit not-RAW, disallowing for further recovery of details in the chroma/luma ratio when color grading. There's a reason why camera (sensor) size matters.
Impacted by that limitation, but…use your eyes nonetheless. If the images (pre or post processed) look different, better or worse, well. It means that, effectively, they are. Choices have to be made. The phones are capable of getting good, creative footage if you know how to use them.
Damn bro just get to the point of how to shoot in log
Amazing tutorial! Thank you so much! I have filmmaking related tutorials also. Any support would mean alot! Thanks again
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