EXPOSED: What The Mormon Church Is Doing To Kids

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  • Опубликовано: 26 апр 2023
  • Nemo the Mormon is a current Mormon who is fighting to expose financial and sexual horrors in the church. Unlike many defectors I speak to, Nemo still considers himself a part of the religion, and is a rare (or so I thought) example of a British Mormon. This is something that happens at the extreme end of most tight-knit communities, and the Mormon version is also exposed by South Park and LadBible's No Filter video of McKay 'Spartacus' Johnson, who grew up in a Mormon family.
    Sub to his brilliant channel here: ‪@NEMOTHEMORMON‬
    #mormon #abuse #exmo #horror #terror
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  • @AndrewGold1
    @AndrewGold1  Год назад +78

    Will you be tuning in? Are you surprised to hear of this kind of abuse?

    • @hsk2909
      @hsk2909 Год назад +18

      No, not surprised in the slightest. All extremists are at it. And thank you for keeping up the good work of exposing them.

    • @erciliaflores
      @erciliaflores Год назад +7

      It's unbelievable how much is going daily that is harmful and wrong. My life has been so good

    • @karinkrog369
      @karinkrog369 Год назад +9

      Not surprise. Abuse comes in any form . As a therapist i ahve hears so many heartbreaking stoties.. Curiuous to see what you have uncovered this time Andrew!!!!!

    • @reidunengh483
      @reidunengh483 Год назад +3

      @@erciliaflores So good to hear!!!!!!

    • @aprilsunnyday
      @aprilsunnyday Год назад +7

      Sadly nothing surprises me

  • @NEMOTHEMORMON
    @NEMOTHEMORMON Год назад +184

    It was an absolute pleasure to be interviewed by Andrew, looking forward to working together again soon!

    • @AndrewGold1
      @AndrewGold1  Год назад +23

      I loved it!

    • @MartySeeks
      @MartySeeks Год назад +9

      You were enthralling and I look forward to the inner secrets and Masonic early ties that the Mormons had and possibly still do.

    • @michellemooresings
      @michellemooresings Год назад +8

      Hey Nemo. I didn't catch the live until the end, sorry. I'm rewatching from the beginning.
      I wanted to tell you that "change" within something like Mormonism is like trying to move a huge ship! Very very slow.
      I remained involved in a group trying to be the change.
      As far a Mormonism I remember studying it and I felt like the added scripture completely conflicted with the Bible. It seemed to be about good works. But this is separate from everything in this vid.
      Thank you for coming on. I wish you the best, you seem like a neat person.

    • @maxinekennedy5888
      @maxinekennedy5888 Год назад +8

      You never disappoint Nemo. So thoughtful and eloquent. One of your UK NeverMo admirers 🤩

    • @belalima5779
      @belalima5779 Год назад +8

      You're awesome Nemo! I could never do what you do.... I ran away from the church after 35 + years living it and being the best mormon I could be. I admire your strength and respect your point of view.

  • @readyforclarity
    @readyforclarity Год назад +53

    I marched in Utah for the change for the children interviews. My dad had the nerve to try to brag that the church has changed that, while he never thought to protect me from it as a kid

    • @maametweneboah8143
      @maametweneboah8143 Год назад +10

      That's the lie they tell knowing very well of the truth. They are more about pleasing their doctrine than pleasing Jesus Christ and that's why they are always assuring themselves that the church is true.

  • @Cai_saN
    @Cai_saN Год назад +30

    Thanks for a great interview/talk! I was a mormon in Sweden from age 21-27, basically married into it, in a very strict family. While I was in it I said it is NOT a cult, but it totally is.

    • @marjoriegarner5369
      @marjoriegarner5369 Год назад +1

      Cajsa, yes, it is a cult. I know, I lived in it from birth, and left at 30, after life numbing trauma. I'm 81 now and glad I escaped.

    • @t-pain3343
      @t-pain3343 Год назад

      Wow. Is your spouse still mormon? I suppose there’s few Mormons in Sweden that actively attend church

    • @Cai_saN
      @Cai_saN Год назад

      @@t-pain3343 Yes he is, true believer waiting for the second coming. I think the numbers have gone down a lot over the last ten years of so, but there stil are a lot more than you would think.

    • @t-pain3343
      @t-pain3343 Год назад

      @@Cai_saN interesting. Yea Mormonism is taking a massive hit right now. Lots of people are leaving

  • @countcoupblessings979
    @countcoupblessings979 Год назад +9

    As a young adolescent , I attended Mormon functions with a friend & her family . A "missionary /elder" behaved very overly friendly . Young, tall, strikingly handsome he behaved like all my likes were the best thing since sliced bread . As an adult I know he was love bombing & grooming . He got me alone & got my number. (Pre cell phone) . He called my home , Mom & older brother smelt a rat . I had no idea why they were unkind to such a friendly guy. He'd asked me to meet him , thank God I spilled the beans & the kibosh was put on that too. Then, not but a few months later a young girl my age , dear to my Mormon friend, was hauled into an Inquisition for being pregnant by that louse. IDK what they call it, I say Inquisition. My friend was heartbroken & grieved by how this girl was blamed & treated . She saw how I too was duped & as they say there but by the grace of God , right ? We were kids , that guy was to blame, yet she bore the brunt. That girl was not allowed to attend anything for a long time, kept from her friends & treated as wanton homewrecker , a witch & a degenerate. They made her give the baby to couple far away . She was never allowed to be in her age classes with church , because she was no longer a kid -WTF . She was too young to be in adult classes too . Though soon they forced her into adult womens group. So not until she was years passed this, was she ever in sync with her peers . She was never supposed to talk about her child , even when she got married later . It was bizarre .Think what this did to her . Mind you , this girl at the time, was reeling with heartbreak , as he'd convinced her she was the sun & moon to him . She was tricked, abandoned , left holding the babe & the bag as it were . She was then double & triple abandoned , victimized & demonized by " her own" . I look back & I shudder. And I can't help but think , how cell phones are a groomers Boone these days.

    • @w.larson34
      @w.larson34 20 дней назад

      Thank you for sharing this. It is helpful information for others.

  • @amygladdingthomas5431
    @amygladdingthomas5431 Год назад +32

    Being married or having an active sex life has NOTHING TO DO WITH SEXUAL ABUSE OF CHILDREN. The abusers WILL abuse children regardless.

  • @quaver1239
    @quaver1239 Год назад +66

    Hello Andrew Gold. No, I am unsurprised (but still always horrified) to hear of such abuse. Will soon be 81 years old, and very little surprises me. But am almost permanently sad about what I see, learn, know and hear. Proud of you, because you feel like family; we are Jewish and you resemble my male cousins and friends when all of us were young. Keep up the excellent work!

    • @conclavecabal.h0rriphic
      @conclavecabal.h0rriphic Год назад +12

      81 huh. The things you’ve seen and lived through…wow. If you’re 81 you must’ve been born sometime in the 40s?. (I’m embarrassingly bad at maths)
      You’ve endured the Cold War, other military operations/wars, the entire 60s, moon landing, the advent of tv- then color tv-then 24 hour cable. The energy crisis,the advent of the internet, and terrorist attacks. You must be extremely interesting to know.
      Please take care of yourself. People like you are literally worth their weight in gold. 💙

    • @marjoriegarner5369
      @marjoriegarner5369 Год назад +3

      @@conclavecabal.h0rriphic I read your comment on this podcast where you kindly wrote to an almost 81 year old person. It warmed my heart in how you acknowledged them. I, too, will be 81 soon. Born in December, 1942. I felt like you were talking to me personally, since I'm the same age as the person you were commenting to. Thank you for what you said. You cheered me up a bit. I found this site while scrolling through RUclips sites that interested me. I was born and raised Mormon, and left the church at age 30, because I felt there was something terribly harmful with the church. And there certainly is. The trauma of going through the Mormon temple on my wedding day in 1963 was enough to traumatize me for the rest of my life. I also was horrified about polygamy and prejudice against Blacks by the church. After studying church history and having hurtful and harmful personal experiences, I had to walk away from it. Thank you for your comment on this site. Greetings from a great grandmother, in beautiful Montana.

    • @lilasfaves7846
      @lilasfaves7846 Год назад

      @@marjoriegarner5369 greetings from one beautiful grandmother to another!! 💞

    • @marjoriegarner5369
      @marjoriegarner5369 Год назад +1

      @@lilasfaves7846 Thank you. Lilas.

  • @MartySeeks
    @MartySeeks Год назад +36

    Children of any denomination are precious, not just mine as an EX JW, but all including Mormon. When it comes to Children
    I only see they need to be protected from abuse. I no longer see affiliations.

    • @hanagloriaedelblum5693
      @hanagloriaedelblum5693 Год назад

      To protect children is a feat today, with the powers that be that are medicating and killing them. We certainly need more people to speak up, give testamonials like Nemo to air publicly the pedophilia going on in rich circles. The law doesn't get beyond money, but they will not get beyond truth spoken out loud, with no fear.
      "Toxic positivity" needs to be unmasked!

    • @MartySeeks
      @MartySeeks Год назад

      @Hanagloria Edelblum I agree but sometimes it's only one voice clammering for change before others add their own voices, after a time they make a much louder noise. I call individuals like Kelli and also Nemo the Mormon crusaders for change.

    • @marjoriegarner5369
      @marjoriegarner5369 Год назад +2

      Brilliant comment.

  • @michelehardebeck4141
    @michelehardebeck4141 Год назад +18

    Actually started attending a Mormon church for a very short period of time until one day, one of the other women that was attending showed up at my house with a couple of very large grocery bags full of clothing. The lady said that the way I dressed was inappropriate, and she gave me these two bags of clothing, which I probably dumped out and was horrified and humiliated. Needless to say I didn’t go back.

    • @maametweneboah8143
      @maametweneboah8143 Год назад +4

      Their hypocrisy is what kills me though.

    • @marjoriegarner5369
      @marjoriegarner5369 Год назад +5

      You dodged a big bullet when you stopped going to the Mormon church. Don't allow them to stalk you or convince you to come back. Greetings from an 82 year old grandmother in beautiful Montana.

    • @exmohobobonobo
      @exmohobobonobo Год назад +2

      OMG. The gall of her!

  • @waterfall_brook
    @waterfall_brook Год назад +22

    Nemo is awesome. Thanks, Andrew, for shining light on the problems in the LDS.

  • @MatrixTechSolutions
    @MatrixTechSolutions Год назад +13

    Thanks Andrew!! Fantastic interview, one of your best imo. As an inactive Mormon and growing up in Mormonism his views I respect very much.

  • @jojowynne233
    @jojowynne233 Год назад +22

    Nemo was a really interesting and brave guy. Good on him for working from the inside to make things better, stop child abuse, financial abuse and help the community. You can tell he’s still so devoted and the thought of excommunication is unbearable. Nemo, you are a trailblazer for good ❤

  • @maryannlockwood7806
    @maryannlockwood7806 Год назад +33

    I am not surprised to hear of this. I’m glad he’s working internally to try to change things. (I’m listening to it right now in Patreon). It would be nice to know that there’s more than just him trying to internally change these awful policies.💁🏻‍♀️

  • @rubendhoyos9886
    @rubendhoyos9886 Год назад +7

    Omg you followed my suggestion to interview him. Thank you.

  • @reidunengh483
    @reidunengh483 Год назад +17

    I am not surprised but REALLY proud of you!! You gained 10.000 subs in a week or so, Very well earned !!!

  • @DogObsessed430
    @DogObsessed430 Год назад +14

    Intelligent man with amazing self awareness. Very interesting perspective.

  • @mtjensen5
    @mtjensen5 Год назад +15

    They blame it on women wearing certain clothes like the Muslims do but what kind of character and control does that show the men have? Sexual sin seems to be one of the hardest to overcome.

    • @chlyri
      @chlyri Год назад +1

      1. lack of education
      2. shame
      3. lack of accountability
      4. more shame

  • @lindamccarthy6931
    @lindamccarthy6931 Год назад +11

    What a wonderful chat Andrew, and Nemo. Such an easy flow to it all.

  • @kerrydevlin
    @kerrydevlin Год назад +16

    I'm not religious at all but I understand how important people's faith is to them. It's fascinating to hear Nemo talk about his faith and challenge it a the same time, I think he's doing a great thing to bring about change without having to leave his community. I hope it goes well for him.

  • @lauramacstar9277
    @lauramacstar9277 Год назад +16

    I love this guy! compassionate and full of "the spirit" (without me naming a sect/religion) - caring for others, champion for others! bravo!!

  • @julybaby0727
    @julybaby0727 Год назад +5

    When my sister and her husband were in the Mormon church, I wasn’t even allowed to see them get married or see her in her wedding dress because I wasn’t Mormon. The the Mormon church spies on its members and stage interventions. So glad the got out of Mormonism when the decided to have children.

    • @Sissi1830
      @Sissi1830 8 месяцев назад

      I am sorry to hear about your experience. Truly. You seemed to have had a very negative experience, which is truly sad. I am a Mormon and maybe that some people that you know were spying on some other members and these spies just happened to be members but I can tell that that is not what members from the LDS church do. I have moved all over the place in North America and I can tell you that there was never any spies in whatever congregation I belonged to. I am not suggesting that that situation didn’t happened to you or to some people that you personally, but what I am saying that this spying issue was specifically to those people but this is definitely not something that the church does.
      And the reason why you were not allowed to witness the marriage is because only members can enter in the temples, but that’s a whole other discussion.

  • @casandrabullock9497
    @casandrabullock9497 Год назад +11

    Hi Andrew! I grew up in a Mormon family in California and we are normal and friendly and love our Beach parties! However when I moved to Utah in 1992 I was shocked to see a completely different religion! People were cruel to me because I am a musician with tattoos and I think my hair was purple. I called my father crying and saying "they are not christ-like here!" My dad told me that I was basically stuck in a time warp and that Utah was about thirty years behind everyone else. I left the church for a while, and then about 12 years ago I found a cool group of Mormons in Salt Lake City that were very accepting and could care less if I had tattoos! My dad always taught me spirituality was a very personal thing and you didn't need organized religion to be spiritual. I agree with that 100% And that's pretty much me! Great interview! Love your content mate! ✌️

    • @marjoriegarner5369
      @marjoriegarner5369 Год назад +2

      Cassandra. Beautiful comment.

    • @chlyri
      @chlyri Год назад +4

      sadly, the further away from utah you get, the more freedom you have. people want to blame the culture, not the doctrine, but the worst behavior comes from those who pride themselves on following the doctrine, and they're right.

    • @exmohobobonobo
      @exmohobobonobo Год назад +3

      I completely agree with you, but in reverse. When I visited Utah as a teen, I was a strict TBM teenager. I was teased by all of the casual, hypocritical Utah Mormons. I love CaliMos like you, but Umos and Imos are so close minded, awful, petty and …. brainwashed.
      I was bored one day in church and just needed to say something to break the monotony. They were talking about genealogy, and I jokingly said that I have no work to do since my mom did the work all the way back to Adam. My grandpa’s name is Adam. But the young women gasped in admiration, not thinking “is she joking? Is she lying? Is that even possible?” So of course they didn’t laugh when I said my grandpa’s name was Adam. 🥹 Brainwashed, no critical thinking skills, inflexible social skills. Like Stepford people.

    • @LadyMaverick823
      @LadyMaverick823 Год назад

      ​@@exmohobobonobo my father used to say come outside of the bubble where the church is actually true lol. He was raised in Utah and ran as soon as he could and he's been a lifelong member, bishop, high councilor, but as he said to me once with his personal faith, "The gospel is true to those who genuinely seek it, and people are not" H always loved the culture outside of Utah. Me personally my experiences growing up in an actively LDS family never had experiences like the horror stories and though I left when I came out of the closet as bi my parents never disowned me. I never said anything against the church and I correct misinformation about. I don't hate the religion, my problem was I couldn't be who I was at the time and be in it. I've had spiritual experiences in and out of the church. My biggest problem is honestly the puritanical mindset of many of the people who never read the doctrine or actually understood it then acted all pious.

    • @cyndysmith4011
      @cyndysmith4011 11 месяцев назад

      They can be mean...I knew Christians that grew up there...they really went through it..

  • @sngray11
    @sngray11 Год назад +21

    Andrew, thank you for having Nemo on to discuss mormonism in the UK. I am very familiar with the LDS church here in the States and the fundamentalist groups of mormons, but I didn’t know about mormonism in other countries. So thank you again for having Nemo on to enlighten us.

  • @larafields3106
    @larafields3106 Год назад +4

    In Utah, clergy are the only adults who are not mandated reporters. When CSA is disclosed Mormon bishops are instructed to call a church run hotline which is staffed by attorneys who offer guidance on how to ensure there is no church liability. In court cases church officials have submitted statements in support of perpetrators.

  • @DestonieSalazar
    @DestonieSalazar Год назад +19

    I love this guest's perspective. He has so much respect for his religion and upbringing and just wants to make it better. So much respect for him!

  • @zajournals
    @zajournals Год назад +14

    I would love to listen to you both discussing the CES Letter.
    I was LDS and served a mission. Since they mentioned it, there were a lot of gay guys in the MTC. Not that they seemed gay but were actually having sex with other guys. During my mission I became aware of it happening between other companions.

  • @Jsqared-aka-justjenn
    @Jsqared-aka-justjenn Год назад +16

    Holy WOW 😳, AA type rehab for masturbation.....😲🤯. You called it Andrew.... that's just shitty. What a Remarkable young man😎. Changing things from within, instead of just thinking 🤔 "this is messed up", I'm outta here. What a great conversation, thanks again Andrew. He seems like a genuinely awesome, human being. Also, the fact that he doesn't abandon those, cast out by the church, but seeks them out giving them the sense that there's still someone in the (church) "family" that cares about them like I said at the beginning, Holy WOW!

    • @marjoriegarner5369
      @marjoriegarner5369 Год назад +1

      Jennifer, Your comment expressed exactly what I wanted to say. thank you.

    • @Jsqared-aka-justjenn
      @Jsqared-aka-justjenn Год назад +1

      @@marjoriegarner5369 most welcome Marjorie ❣️ Love from Texas ❣️

    • @marjoriegarner5369
      @marjoriegarner5369 Год назад

      @@Jsqared-aka-justjenn Love to Texas from granny in Montana

  • @DestonieSalazar
    @DestonieSalazar Год назад +16

    I love the term "Toxic Positivity". What a great description of the church.

  • @auntieb3621
    @auntieb3621 Год назад +12

    This was a very good interview. Scratched the surface.... well done❤

  • @robertgrey8648
    @robertgrey8648 Год назад +23

    Outstanding interview, Andy! I’ve met Nemo recently in person and am most impressed by his integrity, eloquence, and vast knowledge of Mormon history. Kudos for bringing him on, Andy, he is an inspiration to many of us who would like to see changes brought about in the Mormon Church.

    • @marjoriegarner5369
      @marjoriegarner5369 Год назад +1

      Robert, thank you for seeing what I saw in Nemo. You described it beautifully. Greetings from a granny in Montana.

    • @robertgrey8648
      @robertgrey8648 Год назад

      @@marjoriegarner5369 Thank you for your kind comment, Marjorie, yes, Nemo has indeed excellent critical-thinking skills and his concerns are genuine. I see a great future for him ahead. Greetings to beautiful Montana :)!

  • @Grace.allovertheplace
    @Grace.allovertheplace Год назад +17

    Hi this was a lovely interview. It makes me happy that you have such an unbiased perspective and therefore are able to interview people from all walks of life. This man was really interesting to listen to. Thanks to both of you. With kindness and respect, Grace

    • @NEMOTHEMORMON
      @NEMOTHEMORMON Год назад +4

      Thanks Grace, it was refreshing for me to talk to someone outside the “Mormonsphere” on a podcast!

    • @Grace.allovertheplace
      @Grace.allovertheplace Год назад

      @@NEMOTHEMORMON I intellectually understand it have to feel great to be asked new, different questions, and also you’re in a milieu where people who listen, don’t per-say have the knowledge of the internal language you probably are used to use? I think of it as a positive challenge, but how do you feel about it?
      In my eyes you’re courageous. I haven’t been in a similar position to yours, but I’ve always been pro bettering things on my workplace and even though that’s (I believe) a less complicated situation, it’s still a lot of work! Because it’s never just one person you need to reach out to, it’s almost always a plethora of different people in different position’s, and there’s those people who love to tell you *This is how we’ve always been doing it!* 😂 *but gotta have love for those “last hoorays” too!* But I’d be dishonest if i didn’t say it sometimes feels impossible for changes, but also it never isn’t, *time and patience are my keywords* With kindness and respect, Grace (English isn’t my first language so please feel free to ask if my comment doesn’t makes sense.)

    • @marjoriegarner5369
      @marjoriegarner5369 Год назад +2

      @@Grace.allovertheplace your "English" is very good. You express yourself very well. As you said, English is not your first language. So I want you to know you're doing very well.

    • @Grace.allovertheplace
      @Grace.allovertheplace Год назад +1

      @@marjoriegarner5369 Thank you so dearly for your positive and kind words. I’ve noticed that when I want to ask something very specific I lack the ability to put it together.
      As of right now, I really don’t have to think in my own language writing this, but as above I have too think in my first language and go on from there.
      Thanks for caring and being so kind.
      With kindness and respect, Grace

    • @marjoriegarner5369
      @marjoriegarner5369 Год назад +2

      @@Grace.allovertheplace You are a dear lady. May I ask what your language is? I'm a great grandmother, age 81. in s.w. Montana, USA. I do care and hope your life is going very well, wherever you are.

  • @veggieview2264
    @veggieview2264 Год назад +57

    These interviews about Mormon insiders and other "cults" are extremely valuable to society, youth, and those who are investigating groups before and after involvement with these groups. This helps people learn critical thought that is not always explored in families or formal education activities.

  • @chroniclesoflucifer
    @chroniclesoflucifer Год назад +29

    "Mormons have normalized publicly evaluating other people's underwear" 😂😂😂
    So much respect for Nemo who has enough strength to take his community with him on this journey of compassion. 😊

    • @anthonynettleton8346
      @anthonynettleton8346 Год назад

      I don't know how as a member we don't let ppl see ours as its a spiritual connection

  • @sar8349
    @sar8349 Год назад +13

    True story. As a then Baptist, the father of a friend of mine passed. We lived in a predominantly Mormon neighborhood and she was (using my term) pounced on and her Catholic upbringing was attacked. As one who made it clear where I stood with my faith, she called. The Mormons were sending "elders" by to talk to her and she asked if I could be there. Incidentally, I had done some research into different religions. The day came and the two very young "elders" sat across from us in her family room. They began by teaching their doctrine/theology as help for her grief.
    I inquired if I could ask some questions. Of course, they replied. The following conversation ensued. E=elders.
    Me: What do you consider your source of authority?
    E: The bible.
    Me: Amazing! So do I. Have you ever read it?
    E: (They was uncomfortable for them. After some discussion, they admitted they had not read it in its entirety.)
    Me: Well, I have read the Book of Mormon and it doesn't exactly line up with the bible.
    There followed a discussion about whether they believed they could become gods. Their answers were ambivalent. I finally asked if they believed they could become exalted beings and they said yes.
    Me: So like gods?
    E: Yes.
    Me: I will have you know that doctrine comes straight from the bible.
    E: They seemed a little smug and leaned arrogantly back in their chairs as if to say, "well, there you go."
    Me: I will read it to you. Genesis 3:4,5 - "The serpent said to the woman, “You certainly will not die! For God knows that on the day you eat from it your eyes will be opened, and you will become like God, knowing good and evil." This doctrine did not from Joseph Smith, Brigham Young, the Book of Mormon, Pearl of Great Price or Doctrine and Covenants, it came straight from the pit of hell.
    Needless to say, the conversation ended. A few days later, she called to say the "elders" wanted to come back and talk to her but that they didn't want her friend there.
    BTW - I did not leave God - just the Baptists.

    • @WatchingwaitingG2D
      @WatchingwaitingG2D 7 месяцев назад

      Try telling the truth. Your story is full of holes, but then you know that pretender.

  • @deewilusz9042
    @deewilusz9042 Год назад +8

    I have been waiting for this. Nemo is so informative and brilliant. Great job gentlemen!

  • @fallon7616
    @fallon7616 Год назад +14

    Great show, Andrew
    Learning more about being a Morman than I ever thought I could 😂

  • @donnamorgan2522
    @donnamorgan2522 Год назад +2

    Another fantastic,insightful interview into the Mormon Church with this wonderful man.
    Greatly appreciate Nemo sharing with our Community.
    It helps “outsiders” understand.

  • @mariacoronel2547
    @mariacoronel2547 Год назад +4

    Thank you so much, Andrew, for exposing us, your followers, to so many interesting and very much up to date subjects. There is so much to learn in what you’re doing in your channel. I am an extremely curious person so imagen how happy I am with every video you cover.

  • @sarahhaverson176
    @sarahhaverson176 Год назад

    Hi Andrew, I was just in the Live, didn't know you'd interviewed Nemo until you mentioned it, he is so thoughtful and articulate, looking forward to watching this one next!

  • @veessayin2878
    @veessayin2878 Год назад +1

    What a great interview you two! Thanks for putting it on and out there.

  • @lisacolledge7624
    @lisacolledge7624 Год назад +5

    Hey Andrew 👋. Im in Ausralia and havent been too well, so im reeeealy late to the party today. All i wanted to say is 1) this chap was great and 2) you keep better and better. Congratulations 🎉

    • @AndrewGold1
      @AndrewGold1  Год назад +1

      Hope you feel better soon Lisa, and thank you!!

  • @jennifercornman1291
    @jennifercornman1291 Год назад +8

    Any god that doesn’t love you for who you are isn’t worth worshipping. There are religions with churches that don’t judge you for who you are.

    • @erciliaflores
      @erciliaflores Год назад +2

      Well, God never does the judging-- whatever the people in the church might say. In my opinion, anyway!

  • @estebancarbajal6014
    @estebancarbajal6014 Год назад +6

    What Nemo said is all true. I was an active Mormon for 33 years.

    • @marjoriegarner5369
      @marjoriegarner5369 Год назад +1

      Golden, greetings from a fellow exmormon, from an 81 yr old grandmother in Montana.

  • @AliaKhan-kv3sf
    @AliaKhan-kv3sf Год назад

    Thank you, Nemo and Andrew, for this interview. Very insightful. And all the best Nemo, I hope you do influence change and good on you for the support to ex-mo you provide through Thrive. ❤

  • @frankttt604
    @frankttt604 Год назад +3

    It was such a pleasure to listen to you two. Nice open man telling his story. I enjoyed it to the most!

  • @alison155
    @alison155 Год назад +8

    This young man held my attention the whole time. No matter what i think about religion i can so understand his worries if ( i hope only when , if he wants) the time comes that he isn't apart of it. He is so very much infested in it, it is his world but NOT blinkered, that yes it must scare him. I know you will be there for him if it comes. That is why i can listen to him. That he is infested but he also knows.. I hold respect for him and his work to help.

  • @dianacryer
    @dianacryer Год назад +12

    Another good interview. Indoctrination is very hard for people to shake.

  • @budhancock5719
    @budhancock5719 Год назад +2

    I am so happy and grateful for your hard work, dedication, and spiritual wisdom!

  • @JM-pg5rc
    @JM-pg5rc Год назад +10

    Andrew, you need to interview Samantha Shelley. She was converted as a teen in the UK and went to a Mormon university before leaving. She has an awesome channel with her friend called Zelph on the Shelf.

    • @rubendhoyos9886
      @rubendhoyos9886 Год назад +2

      Agreed her channel with Tanner is great. youtube.com/@ZelphOntheShelf

  • @heatherwhelan1376
    @heatherwhelan1376 Год назад +4

    So sweet. He reminds me of boys I grew up with who were Mormon and also well educated and who felt loved.

  • @davemaller7022
    @davemaller7022 Год назад

    Hello Andrew and "Nemo" - a most fascinating, open and enlightening interview. I've followed Nemo on a number of his video-casts. I found it brought out a number of issues that Mormons, who still have their heads in the sand, should be aware of.

  • @kellymc6812
    @kellymc6812 Год назад

    Wonderful interview Sirs!thank you 🙏🏻❤️

  • @ChrisGroggyCreaser
    @ChrisGroggyCreaser Год назад +6

    Thanks For GIVING US THE REAL TRUTH,Andrew!!

  • @grandma2568
    @grandma2568 Год назад +9

    So glad you stood up and told the truth

  • @belalima5779
    @belalima5779 Год назад +6

    All true unfortunately, Nemo you did great, and good job interviewing, Andrew!

  • @sarcasticbimbo1420
    @sarcasticbimbo1420 Год назад +1

    This has been fascinating to listen to. Thank you for covering such an interesting subject.

  • @dannieb3626
    @dannieb3626 Год назад +11

    I really appreciate this video more than I can express at the moment Thank you so much for both of you a gentleman explaining so thoroughly 🙏

  • @helenatroy33
    @helenatroy33 Год назад +9

    Gee I can't imagine what that level of sexual oppression does to men 🙄hidden deviancy is what happens.

  • @mtjensen5
    @mtjensen5 Год назад +7

    Makes me think about the story of King David in the Bible who by the way was a man after God’s own heart, he sent for Bathsheba who he saw and lusted after. He sent her husband to the worst part of the battle so he would get killed, which he did, then he married Bathsheba. He had quite a few wives and concubines which was prohibited in Mosaic law. Same with Solomon, his son who had 100’s of wives and concubines. Geez

  • @armaugh
    @armaugh Год назад +3

    Amazing interview.

  • @judithbogner3222
    @judithbogner3222 Год назад +14

    I tuned in late but I think that I got the message of this fellow. I wish him the best. I pray that he holds up strong against the institution and lets the truth shine! 🥰

  • @pixie3760
    @pixie3760 Год назад +5

    I did a Bachelors in world religions so I find interviews fascinating

  • @exmohobobonobo
    @exmohobobonobo Год назад +1

    I’m a new subscriber to your podcast! It was weird to start at the latest episode (the terrible, sad case of the Punjabi woman) and then start at the beginning and find out it’s the same woman! I want to see what we as exmo or nuanced Mormons can do to help prevent the type of systematic violence she and others from using India or other paternal societies experience.
    Love you both NEMO and Andrew! Great Q&A. Not just superficial answers. I’m so proud of NEMO’s work. It’s not easy being the ONLY ONE to stand up during a vote and oppose one of the richest and possibly powerful leaders in the world. 👍

  • @kiki29073
    @kiki29073 Год назад +6

    If he was in the USA he would have been excommunicated when he first voiced his thoughts aloud.

  • @desiadaven
    @desiadaven Год назад +3

    Nemo, I am a fan. I admire your eloquence and bravery. Thanks Andrew for highlighting him!

  • @shelleyconnolly8452
    @shelleyconnolly8452 Год назад

    Only found your channel yesterday... And Ive got to say , I'm now extremely sleep deprived as I've been making my way through your content ...outstanding work ! Love how the Mormons can " change their rules " as they deem fit ..
    How does that work ? Someone wakes up one morning having had a dream that God has told them to drop rule number 38 ? Unbelievable scarily unbelievable

    • @AndrewGold1
      @AndrewGold1  Год назад

      haha i love it, but hope you do get to sleep! enjoy the channel shelley!

  • @Lynnessanovember
    @Lynnessanovember Год назад +1

    I totally relate to being the Hermionie annoying kid growing up. Thanks for putting those dots together for me makes SO much sense! I needed how to be natural & normal lessons lol

  • @arunningbet
    @arunningbet Год назад +3

    As someone who was Catholic when the scandal came out about the priests it was mostly well it’s not OUR priests that are doing that. However, there was training that religious peeps had to go through because of it.

  • @lovegenderless
    @lovegenderless Год назад +14

    OPERATION UNDERGROUND RAIL ROAD IS BASED IN UTAH AND IS BEING INVESTIGATED

  • @elizabethgrogan8553
    @elizabethgrogan8553 Год назад +16

    I follow Nemo on Utube. His knowledge of Mormon history is astonishing. I'm friends with an ex-Mormon couple who left the church in 2019. They watched a video which explained the truth about Joseph Smith.
    They both say they have never been happier.

    • @maametweneboah8143
      @maametweneboah8143 Год назад +1

      Do you remember the video title?

    • @elizabethgrogan8553
      @elizabethgrogan8553 Год назад

      ​@@maametweneboah8143 Sorry for answering so late. I believe they watched Mormon Stories Podcast, an episode which spoke about Joseph Smiths lies. They follow Nemo and a few other Ex-mo channels.

  • @MrRickb75645
    @MrRickb75645 Год назад +7

    The church is honest. But the lawyers were the ones involved in that. You would be amazed at how large it's holdings are. But it also takes a lot of people to run it. And so yes things do get messed up . The church is perfect, but the people are not. And this happens every where and in every church.

    • @erciliaflores
      @erciliaflores Год назад +1

      That last sentence is the very truth. Every church has problems! And everywhere outside of church has problems, too. It's tough to think about

    • @readyforclarity
      @readyforclarity Год назад +1

      The church manipulates children and vulnerable communities to steal from them. Full stop. I was one of those children. I was lied to. By the church, the doctrine, my leaders, my parents, the people in general conference. If an entity is taking advantage of people and hurting people, listen to them instead of the entity.

    • @chlyri
      @chlyri Год назад

      the church is as honest as a snake oil salesman. the "prophet" and his counselors have lied, as have those in the past.

    • @LadyMaverick823
      @LadyMaverick823 Год назад

      Thank you for this comment.

  • @tamimorgan8903
    @tamimorgan8903 Год назад

    Thank you Nemo for sharing this!

  • @steph744
    @steph744 Год назад +5

    nemo!! was really interesting to hear from you. I am a big fan of you as a co-host on the LDS discussions podcasts with mike.will you continue the series??

  • @anthonycampbell4534
    @anthonycampbell4534 7 месяцев назад

    Great interview Nemo!

  • @stephaniecook2441
    @stephaniecook2441 Год назад +27

    Am proud of This Brave Young Man for standing up for Himself. It's quite infuriating that this can even happen at all. GodSpeed to Him!

  • @joward481
    @joward481 Год назад

    Great interview 👍 👏. What a lovely guy in a really unique position. Nice one Andrew 👏.

  • @joannegrieco8523
    @joannegrieco8523 Год назад +3

    I don't know Any man who thought my shoulders were sexy and it certainly isn't a woman's fault if a man did!!!

  • @malinisk
    @malinisk Год назад +1

    I love the approach!

  • @nartarlyiatremaynne1239
    @nartarlyiatremaynne1239 Год назад +1

    Andrew the Universe was showing off when you were made.
    You are a total Rock Star!
    Australia.

    • @bsota8513
      @bsota8513 Год назад +1

      Awww, he is adorable.

  • @joannegrieco8523
    @joannegrieco8523 Год назад

    What's the name of the documentary? Is it on RUclips and will you put up a link please?

  • @jasontaylor6779
    @jasontaylor6779 Год назад +9

    That will be the 3rd time this week I will be up by 4.00am but it's worth it.
    Nothing surprises me when it comes to religion/cults. The world would be better off without either. But then you would have no show.

    • @AndrewGold1
      @AndrewGold1  Год назад +2

      Love it Jason!! Thanks so much for your support

    • @anitaevans2432
      @anitaevans2432 Год назад +1

      That's so right Jason 😊

  • @effiec.7318
    @effiec.7318 Год назад +2

    It’s also a privilege situation with being able to have more influence as a white man than a woman can.

  • @marieb1422
    @marieb1422 Год назад +1

    Nemo is doing amazing work! So glad you had him on.

  • @karigross4596
    @karigross4596 Год назад

    What a stupendous interview! Thanks, you guys!
    I’m a former Mormon, my English family was part of the pushcart Mormons.
    I’d like to challenge you to consider this: could there REALLY be a God? He’s not the god of Mormonism, obviously.
    But I’d urge you to pursue truth. It’s an exhilarating ride!

  • @marshlanderdumarais264
    @marshlanderdumarais264 Год назад +6

    I’ve followed Nemo for some time and have always admired his ability to present his argument in the face of what I know will be unrelenting pressure. I don’t have the strength to explain my point of view to my ex-wife or my bishop son. Thank you so much for this interview. My admiration for Nemo’s courage has just soared.

  • @OldCarla-db8xs
    @OldCarla-db8xs Год назад

    Goof to see my two favorite RUclipsrs together!

  • @1yoginiheart
    @1yoginiheart Год назад +3

    Growing up Mormon, my household experienc was highly controlled. No TV, No music, No chocolate, No caffeine, No swaring, No failure. My third father was not a member. Mom ruled the roost. I understood Mormon life, once I moved to Utah. I highly recommend for the curious. I was proposed to by a FLDS member. Utha is an eye opener. Once I experonced group violation, I went to the Priesthood, and nothing at all was done to support me, or provide any support. I have had a lifetime of healing from the Church. I have half my family being in Mormonism, My mom is a Survivalist Type. She had bodybags in her supplies at one time.

    • @bsota8513
      @bsota8513 Год назад

      Wow! Body bags for who, though?

    • @1yoginiheart
      @1yoginiheart Год назад

      The body bags are to burry the dead

    • @maametweneboah8143
      @maametweneboah8143 Год назад +1

      Bodybags, why?

    • @1yoginiheart
      @1yoginiheart Год назад

      @@maametweneboah8143 My mom I as what is called a 'Servivalist or Preper'.
      So they hoard, as they feel we are in the Latter Days. That prior to Christ coming, there will be total anarchy. Mom had a tent for 20 ppl. Cots, stove, clothing, food, tools, to also include body bags so we can burry the dead. Those are really just a few of her hoards.
      I hope that makes sense. Oh, and she also had weapons and took, courses to use them, and self defence classes.

    • @bsota8513
      @bsota8513 Год назад

      @@1yoginiheart Got it. Good for her! Never know.

  • @claire-christmas-august73
    @claire-christmas-august73 Год назад +3

    we found nemo.!
    nemo found himself.! 😉
    good to hear..
    ✌🏻🇦🇺🌏🤘🏻

  • @mandiewectawski5671
    @mandiewectawski5671 Год назад +3

    Not surprised at all as an ex mormon i am definitely not surprised by what they do

  • @tamimorgan8903
    @tamimorgan8903 Год назад +3

    In the church it is all about the money! If there is a scandals, they will protect the person that is causing the scandal. The victim is NOT protected, (ie: sex abuse)

  • @richardrogers8471
    @richardrogers8471 Год назад

    Is Thrive in the US? How to find?

  • @kishgrant4078
    @kishgrant4078 Год назад

    Hi, what's the name of the documentary that was referred to?

    • @AndrewGold1
      @AndrewGold1  Год назад

      I don’t remember but maybe the bbc Mormon camp one?

  • @joannegrieco8523
    @joannegrieco8523 Год назад

    I was the "Actually " adult in college and an introvert too . Not shy about my beliefs and Passions in writing and only in front of people I trust or when I've hit my limits on patience but I do also recharge my battery with quiet and some short periods of solitude

  • @Dojustdoandbe
    @Dojustdoandbe Год назад +2

    One of the reasons I left the church was their refusal to accept people who have homosexual relationships, they said as long as you don’t engage in it you can attend church. I just couldn’t reconcile that and yet you can attend if at home you’re an abusive heterosexual person

    • @blackrussian12345
      @blackrussian12345 Год назад

      if you believe that the bible is the word of God you would know that homosexuality is an abomination to the Lord

    • @chlyri
      @chlyri Год назад

      ​@@blackrussian12345mistranslated. something joseph smith failed in correcting.

    • @blackrussian12345
      @blackrussian12345 Год назад

      @@chlyri huh? sry i don't understand yr comment. R u saying the bible was mistranslated or that JS was? And that homosexuality is OK under that particular doctrine-? TY

  • @scrapshappen
    @scrapshappen Год назад

    Wow first mention of my hometown (Cardston) I've heard. And yup, 6th generation and kicked out at age 16 in the 1970s. Great episode.

  • @Callisto74
    @Callisto74 Год назад

    I agree with a lot of what Dougie says. I’m a lifelong Mormon who dealt with these issues from within the church for many years and was criticised for it. I left the church some years ago.
    I’ve never known Mormons to not eat chocolate, however.

  • @suthatheplee2777
    @suthatheplee2777 Год назад

    Well done Nemo! Keep up the pressure on TSCC and especially the FP. 👍🏼

  • @Kaatevanderkolm
    @Kaatevanderkolm Год назад +2

    Very interesting 🧐

  • @rubendhoyos9886
    @rubendhoyos9886 Год назад +1

    40:54 that was me at BYU. Once I got my BYU Bachelors Degree in 2009, and fully enrolled at NYU grad school (New York) I officially came out.

  • @kiki29073
    @kiki29073 Год назад +3

    If Utah gets a hold of him he will be gone. There is more and more backlash recently with so many murder cases being related to the LDS church. Non LDS people are learning what it is to be LDS and the different Mormon sects because LDS is just the main one.