No strikes yet. No parties want to loose vote by creating chaos in the capital. It is surprisingly confortable. We should have some election more often 😂😂
The fact that Macron, the youngest french president of tye 5the republic, has his party to be the most popular only among french people aged above 75 years is so funny for me for some reason. I guess his bougie ways didn't appeal to the youth
@@iljagaimovic9166Um… what are you talking about? French people regardless of ethnicity has rioted against their government and rulers since the French Revolution up to the more recent violent yellow vests and farmer protests. It’s very much a sacred tradition and part of French culture just as strong as baguettes, wine and having mistresses 😅
Considering how crazy things are in France these days, both internally and internationally, this is probably more a sign of how sick people are of centrists.
The results are not insane, what is insane is that some people see this as a surprise after 50 years of terrible handling. That's like being upset that it rains on a cloudy day.
Terrible handling doesnt make you a great power. It's the far right media that caused all this and everyone just watched them brainwash people and lie. It's much worse than Fox News
I have to say it's actually completely expected for the rise of a third party. The only thing unusual is that most of the time in a 2-party system, a third party that gets this big ends up getting absorbed into one of the main parties. Like America's Greens with the Democrats and the Republicans with the Libertarians.
Lol, people all around the globe are all voting for right-extremists, and no one seems to notice how fucked the next decades are going to be for humanity. I guess history doesn't teach you anything
That's called oligarchy. The people are sick of it. And immigration too. But I seriously doubt that an extremist right wing government will fix the situation. In the best case scenario they'll have some restoration of order but only at the expense of making the middle class even poorer as the oligarchs concentrate even more power.
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I think that the strategic ignorance behind the use of the word "insane" is exactly the reason for the result. These are the same kind of people who pretend to be surprised by Biden's appearance in the first debate.
@@patavinity1262 Insanity and predictability are mutually exclusive. The top commenter means that his expectation was based on logical, observable factors. In the context of the use, insanity either implies that no one saw it coming, or that the expectations were greatly surpassed, neither of which is true.
If the RN gets the majority not absolute, he can use that to blame the next 2-3 years of government chaos. Same for the Left, plus shows a RN defeat. He knows his party power is deteriorating and it was likely it was going to be législative élections anyways in a future if they had to trigger another 49.3 so better get out on his own terms than giving someone else a winning argument.
More like isolated in a ivory tower. Whenever he moves outside, police filters people allowed near the place (so only supporters can come to cheer him up), place is cleaned beforehand to make nice shots for the cameras etc... A true Potemkin village... No wonder he is out of it and disconnected with reality.
You won't find a proper explanation of the French voting system anywhere in the mainstream media. This was excellent, and I now understand it. Thank you!
I think this second round in legislative elections is a bit too much. It destabilizes the system. In Costa Rica you only have one election for members of Congress and two for president if nobody gets at least 40%. Demanding majority (that is, 51%) is a bit too high in a multiparty system.
@@basillah7650 if you're telling that to me, let me tell you that at least now I know why do they make two rounds of legislative elections in France. The media in my country practically don't speak about this, they just repeat like parrots "crisis, Le Pen, fascism, end of the world"...
On parle bien d'avoir un parti descendant de collaborateurs de nazis, un parti raciste, homophobe... Extrême droite, qui veut cracher sur les droits de l'homme, faire plusieurs classes de français, autoriser certains dérapages sur certains français...
I don't think Macron wanted the RN to fail in the election. I think he wanted the RN to win in it, so that they had to be in control and utterly fail at doing it. Macron wanted the RN win a Pyrrhic victory that could potentially harm them in the long term. I am always surprised that people only think about "winning" or "losing" in the short term, as if there was no difference between a tactical and a strategic victory. Sometimes you have to retreat and lose the battle to win the war. I do not know however if such a strategic victory can be acquired this way. Only time will tell.
Yes. I also think this is Macron's get out of jail card. His unimpressive performance will be shadowed by Le Pen's time in the parliament. He will be able to blame Le Pen's for economic(or other) failure and absolve his own mistakes.
The truth is, the legislative will barely matter anyway, since Macron is still the executive and he can have the last word, hell it may not even bother him because both him and the RN wants to favor the rich, Macron the ultra rich more than the rich, but thats semantics
This is why Bardella said he would refuse to become prime minister if they don't win the absolute majority. Also for the past year Macron was just traveling and I would even say he was running away, avoiding his responsibilities as a president while there were so many protests, riots, social issues and other meltdowns left right centre in the country. Borne was pretty much running the country with Darmanin to her side. In theory, the executive power is held by the president but in the case of a coalition, the executive will be held by the prime minister.
@@The13thRonin Two wrongs don't make a right. The cause is just, the answer is not. Extremism isn't the answer, but I know all too well how incompetent crooks have convinced you otherwise. I see you, I hear you, I feel you. I don't like being told that I'm evil because of my skin color or my genitalia either...and yet, I disagree. This will make things worse. If the Pendulum swings this way now, it will swing back to the Left yet again, is that what you want? The ball is in the Far Right's court and if history is anything to go by, they will do an even worse job.
"Ordre nouveau" was founded as soon as ww2 ended, basically. To be perfectly fair, it did take the racists quite a lot time to be openly so. That said, I don't believe everyone voting for Le Pen is a racist. There's a good chunk of anti-establishment votes and anti-Macron votes in there.
there are obviously issues. but Le Pen doesn't offer any solutions. france didn't suddenly get racist. racism has been a significant issue for decades and has been slowly growing. doesn't change the fact that only a racist would possibly vote for Le Pen, considering how openly racist she is. I mean, for fucks sake, her party literally has the "eternal flame" of Mussolini in it's symbol.
I have to say this is my first time seeing this channel and I'm pleasantly surprised by how balanced and seemingly impartial this was. MSM, especially BBC and C4 could learn a thing or 2.
@@bramobin Every time we had a Napoleon, France was pulled out of grave political deadlock/chaos, and we had healthy growth and pride until external forces attacked and forced the end of the Empires.
@@Mousquetaire-du-Roi I think you will find the first Napoleon is the one who went on the attack. The consequence of this was external forces went Non.
it does not. Until 2004 Bretagne was on the right side, that was its voting habits. Magically it became on the left. Perhaps because the atlantic front is the place in metropolitan France where you have the less mass immigration. The raise of the RN vote in the atlantic front is huge from 2022 to 2024, higher than elsewhere.
@@jeanmartin963 it's important to remember that actually, the more cosmopolitan an area, the less people vote for xenophobic parties like the FN/RN. most migrants and descendents of migrants are in cities and historically city population and not very receptive to the RN. on the contrary the less interaction people have with foreigners pr theur descendents (rural areas), the more they votz FN. this is why it sort of is surprising to see a fairly rural area (though with several latge cities) like brittany not vote that much for the RN. as said before, i think because of the strong regional identity they pight be less attracted to the bombastic nationalism of the RN
@@soleenzo893 You have two opposite ways of seing the phenomenon. First what you say and what people from the left think, the guys voting RN / FN are afraied of what they don't know. And then the way people from the far right think. Some people did not vote FN / RN during a long time because they were not a banch of racists and xenophobs and then they, or a member of their close family, made a terrible encounter with immigration and became awake. These two ways of seing the evolution cannot be right together. There is a simple way to know which one is true. Both theories agree on the fact that the RN vote is related to the contact with immigration, but the correlation is opposite. In the last 40 years the immigration has increased, and thus the contact with immigration. Did the RN/FN has decreased like the "left theory" predicts, or increased like the far right theory" predicts ?
@@jeanmartin963 honestly it's not contact with immigration at all that predicts RN vote. instead education level, living in rural or urban areas and poverty and age group are the most important factors it seems. go look the stats up, it's honestly very interesting. also exposure to privately owned media belonging to far right leaning billionaires is directly correlated with more RN vote (BFMTV, CNEWS, C8, Europe 1 etc).
The results aren't insane. The RN have steadily increased their vote share in every election since 2002. It's the culmination of a long strategy of hard work legitimising themselves.
Yep I don’t get what you expect when they’ve had uncontrolled Islamic immigration leading to many terror attacks and violence was obviously gonna be a rightward shift
Please, please go back to using bar charts or something else. These ring graphs are unclear at best and seem convoluted at worst. It is just not possible to get a good grasp of how much percent one section is out of the total - especially with the grey parts in between (are these spacers? Or are these votes for none of the shown parties? And if that is the case, why are they distributed over the whole ring and are not bunched up in one place?)
Wow crazy how you hold elections sunday and tuesday you have all results for next elections. In america you have states still "counting" a week after the election.
In Finland elections are usually counted already in the same day as they are hold but we only have 5.5 million people so its not surprise France takes a little bit longer as they have 67.9 million.
It's even more impressive because usually, 99% of the counting is done by 11pm on election day. But, contrary to the USA, the french only vote for 1 election at the same time and the voting places are way smaller (no more than 1500 people voting at the same place) which make the counting is extremely easy.
We have most results by midnight the same day. Elections day are always on a Sunday so that everyone can turn up, the number for each voting booth is not that big and most voting booth close at 6pm. We count the ballots just after they close, usually we're done by 8pm, sometimes even earlier. The numbers are then sent to the ministry which publish them as they come after 8pm. Honestly it's crazy smooth.
This election is not chaotic, it's unprecedented and unpredictable. But that we cannot know (in advance) does not make it 'chaotic'. Your channel is more and more mainstream sensationalism every day, I have to say.
It was called out of nowhere + the far right is gaining + the greens, communists and social democrats formed an unlikely coalition to counter this. As RN the other parties scrambled to create a barrier against it, massive demonstrations. Yet calling all this chaotic is "mainstream media", when I see these idiotic comments I really feel like there´s no hope.
Look, i've always been a leftist, but we live in the real world, and this have been sad to watch from my pov... For the past decades I witnessed every elections in France, the gig is that no recent French president was actualy elected for who he was, but who he faced, Le Pen's party always had that aura of racist and extremist party wich mean peoples who had same convictions were motivated enough to vote for them, leading the second turn as a " We need to vote to prevent Le Pen from reaching power !" not vote for the best of two candidates. We call it the vote barrage ( dam vote ) After so many years we got the results of such catastrophic politicals schemes. Non far right politicians realised that if you let immigration go rampant, it means always more and more peoples that will vote against Le Pens, because of their positions on immigration. And no matter how bad a president can be ( Take Macron as an exemple ) when he faces the far right, he's sure to win and get to power, but as years passes, the country is in a turning point, some citys are scary to live in, criminality and violence skyrocketted, unemployement and insecurity just keep going up, gang violence reached peaks, and even with our very strict gun laws, shootings in the streets between criminals are more and more common, killing civilians in their homes as collateral damages. France is also kind of a " USA sponge", whatever americans do, we copy them within few years span, french politics his slwoly turning in an immitation of american bi party system, and medias in generals are filled with more and more anti french / white propaganda, hate against french peoples has gone wild and unpunished on tiktok and twitter, using racism and colonialism as an excuse (like some blacks peoples still use slavery today to be racist against whites americans ) but the left have a simple moto, " Living together " and they won't fight against the hate coming from non whites in order not to alienate their potential voters. And to "everyones" surprise, hate leads to more hate and peoples grew pissed enough to vote for far right en masse. Weird how that happen ?
_"some citys are scary to live in, criminality and violence skyrocketted, unemployement and insecurity just keep going up, gang violence reached peaks, and even with our very strict gun laws, shootings in the streets between criminals are more and more common, killing civilians in their homes as collateral damages."_ Remember kids, anyone who tried to prevent this from happening was F A R - R I G H T. I guess you're far right now too.
As a right leaning American i thank you for your empathy in understanding the whole picture and opposing viewpoints. Its very rare at least where I am.
Thanks for explaining the French election system for a non-French in an understandable manner. Of course the French has made it complex they love complexity in France.
@@etienne8110 American democracy is mostly for show, the unelected actually run the country. The only difference between Trump and Biden is that Trump was outrageous and Biden was sleepy. It’s like choosing between watching a comedy and a drama. The actual policies were about identical.
pretty funny macron and mélanchon's sides critisizing each others all years long decide suddenly to associate with each others just t obeat RN and wil lcontinue arguing later completly ignoring what peoples voted for
Yeah, you are right. The only problem is that the right usually do not propose any solutions either. I am not French but the only good things National rally proposed are extension of direct democracy and switch to proportional representation system. The problem is that this is pretty much it.
le pen isnt there to stay. ask poland and Kaczyński. they had enough of there right wing party. ppl need to learn how bad right wing parties are for their country. there will be more protests then ever before.
@@greenlime8726 The only reason why the RN proposes representational systems is that it would benefit them. It's not for the good of democracy. The traditional parties only oppose it because it would be to their detriment. None of that discussion should be taken into account when choosing who to vote for, it's all political calculations.
A turning point in to complete chaos? A three way tie makes it impossible to govern. This is very chaotic as forming a coalition will be extremely hard.
@@patrickbateman1660 What happens when you run in a direction and you want to turn the opposite way? You slow down to a stop before you can run in the opposite direction. That slowing down is where France currently is, aka a point of turning towards the opposite way, the change being a shift from left wing to right wing. This 'chaos' is the transit status of France and it's entirely normal. Sure, the fact that France is bound to stay in place untill a solution comes is indeed a problem.
Because there is nothing different, you're just being fooled to not realize that 99% of the same economical and foreing policy decisions will be made by the other parties. Your life quality won't change, you'll just be lead by a carrot on a stick, just held by someone else that promises something else and never delivers.
Depends what "different" is. RN ran on an almost empty platform, except for immigration and safety issues. It's honestly kinda insane that they got so much support without having to state what their policy is on a lot of subjects. They don't even fake anything, they straight up dodge questions about most topics and have pulled back on a lot of national promises they made during the european election.
The established "defenders of democracy" seemed determined to cynically game said Democracy all to push any threat to the status Quo away and pretend the real grievances of the French people don't exist.
An introduction to French elections. Elections are in two "tours" the first is open to any parties or independents. To win outright in the first tour a party must gain 51% of all the votes cast "and" 25% of the entire electorate. This prevents someone profiting from a low turnout. In the second tour, only the top two are allowed to present in each constituency. There can be a certain amount of coalitions formed and parties joined. The winning candidates can then if they have a majority take power or lesser parties can again form a coalition. Bare in mind that this has no effect on the President, he remains until the end of his tenier. The President then choses ministers of state including Prime Minister. It is entirely normal for people to make protest votes in the first tour, and obviously supporters of minority groups will gravitate to their closest candidate ideologically in the second tour. Paradoxically a good result in the first tour ça be detrimental to that party in the second. Imagine a second Brexit vote after people had been startled by the initial result.... Et maintenant, on verra !!! Also the Premier tour has never reflected the results of the deuxiem for 70 years.
Made sense as long as people rallied to the mainstream parties. They’re so widely disliked today the old tactic of stopping someone else you despise through strategic voting alliances has lost its effectiveness. Add to that the fact the centrists and the left loathe each other, you can see why finding common ground is so difficult. The 70 year rule might just get to be broken this year. Blame the result on Macron who called an election he wasn’t compelled to call in the first place.
Neither Macron nor Le Pen are friend to us Algerians! We’re moving onto to the English world, Africa is done with these French. They needed us more than we needed them.
And everyone is obvious about how the party system helps to maintain separations, does not press for cooperation, and ultimately becomes "much to do about nothing!" And this is true of every one of them in every country!
What are you talking about? An almost perfect three way tie is crazy and makes the second round even crazier. It's going to be impossible to govern. You saw this coming?
@@patrickbateman1660 It's going to be impossible to govern, exactly! Exactly the plan of Macron. If he win the election: he reaffirms his strength as the President. If he loses, it will be impossible for the RN to govern, so he can plan a simple "see? They can't do shit either". It's a win-win situation for Macron. ...for Macron. Not for the French people.
@@houssineatm7827 I have a Muslim name too, but the fact that your name is "Houssine" explains why you're against Bardella. He is def right that "immigrants bad" considering what Arabs/Muslims are doing in western countries.
despite the claims of 'not being a racist party' or 'not far right' whatever dumb stuff they're saying, the things supporters of Le Pen on the internet openly say constantly is about that as their one and only rallying point. it's pretty clear what they're about
Pretty clear to me what the far left is all about - no left/right/centrist has won or lost just quite yet but already the far left is protesting the vote by burning and looting and painting and what not.
There is a mistake at 4:41 RN got 9.3M votes and not 12M. That 12 figure was used during election night, based on estimates. Final result are now available
They did get more than 10M votes because the 9.3M figure does not include votes from Eric Ciotti aligned Republicans who allied with the National Rally
8 candidates qualifying for the 2nd round is about mathematically impossible. The 12.5% cutoff is of registered voters, not those turning out to vote/those voting. So effectively a candidate needed around 18% of the vote to qualify for the 2nd round.
@@fredleung616 The point is why say it. As the report goes on to say there are some jurisdictions with 4 qualified candidates and a very odd 5 candidate result.
@@fredleung616 Wrong choice of words. It is also practically possible. All that needs to happen is for every single registered voter to actually vote and the total number of registered voters to be a number that can divide equally by 8 and then for the votes to be evenly split 8 ways. To expect that to happen is probably about as realistic as to expect all people to live in peace and harmony for all time to come.
Thank you for explaining. What happened to just the POPULAR VOTE. The power belongs to the people. Why does every country have ridiculous voting rounds.
Few countries use it. All systems have pro and cons. The preferential scoring tends to favours the milder candidates for ex. Tending to lead to the same politics going on whatever the winner is...
@@Arthur-vb3seI think you may have a point there. Either system is better than The British first past the post. However they are all better than China’s and North Korea’s system of government.
interesting to note how National rally is actually represented by members that ethnically represent their regions, for instance in departement Nord there is at least one member with a flemish surname that won 45%+ of his district. In French Flanders there is actually a lot of flemish pride all be it primarily francophone and given how economically strong flanders is, how many people travel from departement nord to work in flanders with it being quite flemish nationalist now but still very open and respectfull to work migrants the feeling may have caught on. that's just it, this isn't your great grandfathers nationalism, this is a pan european nationalism, flemish nationalists go to the same events as french nationalists despite one being statebound and the other seperatist. to that extent there was an event in Brussels just months ago and maybe that is the biggest contribution of the EU to these parties, they forced them to sit together and they realised that to succeed they needed to actually organise together. whether they will deliver in the end remains to be seen but Europe is not the US, we need to stop the demographic collapse of native europeans and most of all the cultural war it has brought with it
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Yeah, it’s my father in law voting for them too. Where he lives there hasn’t been a foreigner in decades, but he keeps on talking about it like it is an epidemic that is the root of all evil. The fear mongering gets to some people and makes them go to measures that aren’t rational given reality. But oh well, a few years of right-wing leadership will show how poorly they solve problems. Then we can go back to sanity.
If you want a very concise view into the french mind : we don't mind hard times, we mind it very much when it's a lot easier for the neighbour. Currently, quality of life has been declining. Different types of people blame it on different factors. The lower the social class (as per highest diploma, from below high school to phd), the more likely people blame it on immigration. The higher it is, the more likely they blame wealth hoarding. It's not my opinion, it's polls. One thing is certain, we all want Macron out. We cannot agree on whether we want a social democracy or a more authoritarian regime to replace him.
The French are extremely divided and polarized. Those are not sudden results from some swingers who change their vote from left to right regularly between elections. This three blocs division is a long-going trend and won’t end soon.
@@wussrestbrook1200 taxes were higher and welfare was better during the 'good times'. Somehow it turned worse right when the government started trying to appease the rich. Just like it happens in every country on Earth.
One common argument from Macron is to say that the NFP (mostly Mélenchon’s France Unbound) are just as much extremists as the National Rally. And that is utterly false, they’re reformists, maybe a little radical for some of them, but not extremists. It isn’t anticapitalist far-left. But that’s a strategy they use to make the NFP look bad. Admittedly, Poutou was a part of the NFP as well, and he is far-left. But his party’s candidates were like… 2% of the NFP at most.
As a French, I'm so happy to finally see a political video explaining the situation without everyone saying to vote one or another in the comments! I can finally read interesting comments
All this manipulation of who can vote for who just show how france need a better and more democratic system of vote. Politics shouldnt decide on who you can vote for or not
I would say it's better than the UK's system where you can get millions of votes and no seats, while a party with *fewer* votes can get dozens of them.
It's only "insane" if you have a very limited ability to connect actions with results. Many of us have been saying for years that reckless immigration policies would cause a backlash - and we were called every name in the book for it.
Because you're treating a consequence of deeper problems as _the_ problem. Your standards of living won't get better if you send the boats back but don't fix any of the underlying problems that led to migration becoming necessary to avoid economic collapse. It's scapegoating very vulnerable people for the failings of the rich and powerful and trying to solve a bunch of complex problems with a solution that's simple, neat, feels right and absolutely cannot work because it misses the point.
@@Talisguy Open borders were implemented to create a more divided society and to supress wages. It was a policy that only *ever* benefited the already wealthy at the expense of the bulk of the population.
Is it really "insane" when the results followed almost exactly what the polls predicted, and what the European results were a month ago? It would have been insane to expect a different result.
Maloni was called far right and she is more centrist than Macron and is hanging out with the world leaders that the leftists love. It is just an ad hominem at this point
Proportional is used almost everywhere in the democratic world. FPTP, Two-rounds or Preferential all suck because one circonscription can only send one deputy. Leading to gerrymandering, tactical voting, etc. And no rtepresentation from smaller opinion trends.
@@MarcusCactus it's doesn't have to be the case that one constituency only sends one representative. See "Haire Clark" voting system. That's a different issue to whether it's preferential.
I'd hate to be a Peugeot parked in Paris this week
No strikes yet. No parties want to loose vote by creating chaos in the capital. It is surprisingly confortable.
We should have some election more often 😂😂
@@T.A.- just for the final results and you'll see 😂
@@ARSR that’s why I said yet haha. There will be chaos
lmfao
more like i'd hate to be a Peugeot in general
The fact that Macron, the youngest french president of tye 5the republic, has his party to be the most popular only among french people aged above 75 years is so funny for me for some reason. I guess his bougie ways didn't appeal to the youth
He isn't called the president of the rich for no reason.
Having an older wife reveals he's more in line in tastes with the generation before him than his own lmao
The reverse Berni Sanders.
because they already have their retirement so he can't take that away.
He serves the pensioneer class
Whatever happens, the French will be on the streets breaking some serious glass!
It's kind of a tradition here.
Well mostly they are not French 😂
And the MSM and establishment will keep blaming it on the "far-right".
@@iljagaimovic9166Um… what are you talking about? French people regardless of ethnicity has rioted against their government and rulers since the French Revolution up to the more recent violent yellow vests and farmer protests. It’s very much a sacred tradition and part of French culture just as strong as baguettes, wine and having mistresses 😅
They are already doing it, what is it with the French and protests, i mean my word..... 😂
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It's boring
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Insurance may or may not cover for riot it depends on what type of coverage your talking about and how good your policy is.
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Considering how crazy things are in France these days, both internally and internationally, this is probably more a sign of how sick people are of centrists.
Macron and lepen are the same.
So i wonder if they are really that fed up...
@@etienne8110 So, Le Pen is now a centrist? This keeps getting wilder! :)
@@CptMark Far right lovers are now saying everywhere that there's no such thing as "far right"... they pretend it's just good ol' "right"
@@CptMark I think he's referencinh to how Macron moved to the right
So they prefer the extremes? That's hardly a recipe for success.
The results are not insane, what is insane is that some people see this as a surprise after 50 years of terrible handling.
That's like being upset that it rains on a cloudy day.
Terrible handling doesnt make you a great power. It's the far right media that caused all this and everyone just watched them brainwash people and lie. It's much worse than Fox News
I have to say it's actually completely expected for the rise of a third party. The only thing unusual is that most of the time in a 2-party system, a third party that gets this big ends up getting absorbed into one of the main parties. Like America's Greens with the Democrats and the Republicans with the Libertarians.
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Lol, people all around the globe are all voting for right-extremists, and no one seems to notice how fucked the next decades are going to be for humanity. I guess history doesn't teach you anything
That's called oligarchy. The people are sick of it. And immigration too. But I seriously doubt that an extremist right wing government will fix the situation. In the best case scenario they'll have some restoration of order but only at the expense of making the middle class even poorer as the oligarchs concentrate even more power.
What the French call a "Menage a Trois" is what I was hoping he'sd say! lol
Carnage a trois... thats a grand tour special
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@Booz2020 I suppose that's Le Penn
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Nothing insane about that result, completely expected
I think that the strategic ignorance behind the use of the word "insane" is exactly the reason for the result.
These are the same kind of people who pretend to be surprised by Biden's appearance in the first debate.
But..but..far right! It's the far right sound the alarms! I've seen reputable news sources drawing parallels with the occupying Nazi administration 😂
I think he's talking about having so many triangles.
You seem to be suggesting that what is insane cannot be expected, which is clearly not the case.
@@patavinity1262
Insanity and predictability are mutually exclusive.
The top commenter means that his expectation was based on logical, observable factors.
In the context of the use, insanity either implies that no one saw it coming, or that the expectations were greatly surpassed, neither of which is true.
The fact that Macron didn't see this coming shows just how delusional he is.
If the RN gets the majority not absolute, he can use that to blame the next 2-3 years of government chaos. Same for the Left, plus shows a RN defeat. He knows his party power is deteriorating and it was likely it was going to be législative élections anyways in a future if they had to trigger another 49.3 so better get out on his own terms than giving someone else a winning argument.
More like isolated in a ivory tower.
Whenever he moves outside, police filters people allowed near the place (so only supporters can come to cheer him up), place is cleaned beforehand to make nice shots for the cameras etc...
A true Potemkin village...
No wonder he is out of it and disconnected with reality.
Who said he didnt see this coming?
@@gagagagagagagaismSame! I think he and Rishi have mutually agreed to quit right when the merde will hit the fan 😂
@@BigBlack81 His situation and Rishis are very very different
You won't find a proper explanation of the French voting system anywhere in the mainstream media. This was excellent, and I now understand it. Thank you!
I am still a bit confused though. I thought that young guy (who is big on tik tok) was groomed by Le Pen to take over??
I think this second round in legislative elections is a bit too much. It destabilizes the system. In Costa Rica you only have one election for members of Congress and two for president if nobody gets at least 40%. Demanding majority (that is, 51%) is a bit too high in a multiparty system.
If you did not understand it before how do you even know if this is accurate - answer you don't.
@@basillah7650 if you're telling that to me, let me tell you that at least now I know why do they make two rounds of legislative elections in France. The media in my country practically don't speak about this, they just repeat like parrots "crisis, Le Pen, fascism, end of the world"...
@@TR4R Any result for a vote to a national Assembly needs to be proportional to the vote.
To call this the craziest election in French history shows a shocking lack of historic perspective when it comes to French elections.
*Modern* French history
not French history.
He mentioned the 5th republic which is not te entire french history
Sous la 5eme République, environ 60 ans
On parle bien d'avoir un parti descendant de collaborateurs de nazis, un parti raciste, homophobe... Extrême droite, qui veut cracher sur les droits de l'homme, faire plusieurs classes de français, autoriser certains dérapages sur certains français...
they should have said in recent history or of the 21rst century lol
I don't think Macron wanted the RN to fail in the election. I think he wanted the RN to win in it, so that they had to be in control and utterly fail at doing it.
Macron wanted the RN win a Pyrrhic victory that could potentially harm them in the long term.
I am always surprised that people only think about "winning" or "losing" in the short term, as if there was no difference between a tactical and a strategic victory. Sometimes you have to retreat and lose the battle to win the war. I do not know however if such a strategic victory can be acquired this way. Only time will tell.
Power is a drug - politicians are addicts.
They don't want to give it up. Ever. However bad things are.
That's precisely what happened with Hitler. They placed him in power thinking he would utterly fail, and well... we all know what happened
Yes. I also think this is Macron's get out of jail card. His unimpressive performance will be shadowed by Le Pen's time in the parliament. He will be able to blame Le Pen's for economic(or other) failure and absolve his own mistakes.
The truth is, the legislative will barely matter anyway, since Macron is still the executive and he can have the last word, hell it may not even bother him because both him and the RN wants to favor the rich, Macron the ultra rich more than the rich, but thats semantics
This is why Bardella said he would refuse to become prime minister if they don't win the absolute majority. Also for the past year Macron was just traveling and I would even say he was running away, avoiding his responsibilities as a president while there were so many protests, riots, social issues and other meltdowns left right centre in the country. Borne was pretty much running the country with Darmanin to her side. In theory, the executive power is held by the president but in the case of a coalition, the executive will be held by the prime minister.
Guillotine: "Hey guys, remember when we were best friends? I miss those days..."
The champagne socialists are first on the chopping block
wouldn't want any competent people ruining it for the rest of us :p
I wonder whose heads you want under the thing
Don t worry,we never forgot you.
Still have your number btw, give us a call when you pass nearby 😅
@@etienne8110The Rack: are you seeing someone else?
The Pendulum Swingeth
Not really; the right-wing parties will solve NOTHING. They’re just controlled opposition
The Marine Le Pendulum
We have been waiting.
@@The13thRonin Two wrongs don't make a right. The cause is just, the answer is not. Extremism isn't the answer, but I know all too well how incompetent crooks have convinced you otherwise.
I see you, I hear you, I feel you. I don't like being told that I'm evil because of my skin color or my genitalia either...and yet, I disagree. This will make things worse.
If the Pendulum swings this way now, it will swing back to the Left yet again, is that what you want?
The ball is in the Far Right's court and if history is anything to go by, they will do an even worse job.
But to which direction?
The French did not suddenly get racist. Any honest person has to admit, things aren't going well.
No they’ve just always been racist
"Ordre nouveau" was founded as soon as ww2 ended, basically.
To be perfectly fair, it did take the racists quite a lot time to be openly so.
That said, I don't believe everyone voting for Le Pen is a racist. There's a good chunk of anti-establishment votes and anti-Macron votes in there.
there are obviously issues. but Le Pen doesn't offer any solutions.
france didn't suddenly get racist. racism has been a significant issue for decades and has been slowly growing. doesn't change the fact that only a racist would possibly vote for Le Pen, considering how openly racist she is. I mean, for fucks sake, her party literally has the "eternal flame" of Mussolini in it's symbol.
Caring about your country and your culture is now racist if you're white
why do you hate black people
I have to say this is my first time seeing this channel and I'm pleasantly surprised by how balanced and seemingly impartial this was. MSM, especially BBC and C4 could learn a thing or 2.
Can they elect some Napoleon descendant and call it a day?
each time we've had a napoleon, we've lost militarily and socially. better make a new republic
Napoleon XIV comme le Président!
@@bramobin Every time we had a Napoleon, France was pulled out of grave political deadlock/chaos, and we had healthy growth and pride until external forces attacked and forced the end of the Empires.
@@Mousquetaire-du-Roi I think you will find the first Napoleon is the one who went on the attack. The consequence of this was external forces went Non.
I was surprised after living 20 years of "Napoleon was a tyrant" to hear that it was the European monarchies who attacked him first.
Thank you for explaining the process and the different players.
Interesting that Bretagne stands out via its voting habits.
How? They have all three winners
it does not. Until 2004 Bretagne was on the right side, that was its voting habits. Magically it became on the left. Perhaps because the atlantic front is the place in metropolitan France where you have the less mass immigration. The raise of the RN vote in the atlantic front is huge from 2022 to 2024, higher than elsewhere.
@@jeanmartin963 it's important to remember that actually, the more cosmopolitan an area, the less people vote for xenophobic parties like the FN/RN. most migrants and descendents of migrants are in cities and historically city population and not very receptive to the RN. on the contrary the less interaction people have with foreigners pr theur descendents (rural areas), the more they votz FN. this is why it sort of is surprising to see a fairly rural area (though with several latge cities) like brittany not vote that much for the RN. as said before, i think because of the strong regional identity they pight be less attracted to the bombastic nationalism of the RN
@@soleenzo893 You have two opposite ways of seing the phenomenon.
First what you say and what people from the left think, the guys voting RN / FN are afraied of what they don't know.
And then the way people from the far right think. Some people did not vote FN / RN during a long time because they were not a banch of racists and xenophobs and then they, or a member of their close family, made a terrible encounter with immigration and became awake.
These two ways of seing the evolution cannot be right together.
There is a simple way to know which one is true. Both theories agree on the fact that the RN vote is related to the contact with immigration, but the correlation is opposite.
In the last 40 years the immigration has increased, and thus the contact with immigration. Did the RN/FN has decreased like the "left theory" predicts, or increased like the far right theory" predicts ?
@@jeanmartin963 honestly it's not contact with immigration at all that predicts RN vote. instead education level, living in rural or urban areas and poverty and age group are the most important factors it seems. go look the stats up, it's honestly very interesting. also exposure to privately owned media belonging to far right leaning billionaires is directly correlated with more RN vote (BFMTV, CNEWS, C8, Europe 1 etc).
Oh my goodness - a magazine actually CALLED "Too Long"? That's both audacious and genius - I like it. 🙂
The results aren't insane. The RN have steadily increased their vote share in every election since 2002. It's the culmination of a long strategy of hard work legitimising themselves.
True, previous administrations created increasing dissatisfaction
And also the "mainstream" parties de-legitimizing themselves.
Also the work of all the other parties to delegitimize themselves
Also Steve Bannon has been consulting the RN for years.
@@derekmahon1652and then they band up together as "republicans". The constant desperation makes them look rightfully as losers.
Watching this after round 2 is incredible
Based on situation in France this is to be expected, even not as extreme as situation demands.
Yep I don’t get what you expect when they’ve had uncontrolled Islamic immigration leading to many terror attacks and violence was obviously gonna be a rightward shift
French glass and car insurance companies are gonna be having a rough time 😂
Please, please go back to using bar charts or something else. These ring graphs are unclear at best and seem convoluted at worst. It is just not possible to get a good grasp of how much percent one section is out of the total - especially with the grey parts in between (are these spacers? Or are these votes for none of the shown parties? And if that is the case, why are they distributed over the whole ring and are not bunched up in one place?)
The type of language, and vague graphics, are not just there to subliminally promote doubt.
They also reveal this news channels bias.👍
So what is the bias then champ?
I think rings would be fine if they got rid of these meaningless gray spacers. Why are they even on the plot?!
@@ugiswrong I can answer that for him (because) this channel obviously has a leftwing bias.
@@chuck1804oh please. everything not foaming-at-the-mouth fascistic is apparently "left wing bias" to you
10,000 bucks says that it says Academy is going to end up declining as a result of this.
We never had a choice.
As a French person, you resumed it perfectly 👍🏻
"to resume" en anglais ça veut dire "continuer/reprendre", il faut plutôt dire "sum up"
Ou summarize
They summed it up. Resuming means to continue after a pause
Grammar accent there
Ffs language pedantry much?
What is there to explain? The ruling parties made a big oopsie and people are reacting to that.
Well, well, well…how the turn tables.
is it 33 1/3 or a 45 RPM
Wow crazy how you hold elections sunday and tuesday you have all results for next elections. In america you have states still "counting" a week after the election.
They needed to know how many ballots to print.
In Finland elections are usually counted already in the same day as they are hold but we only have 5.5 million people so its not surprise France takes a little bit longer as they have 67.9 million.
It's even more impressive because usually, 99% of the counting is done by 11pm on election day. But, contrary to the USA, the french only vote for 1 election at the same time and the voting places are way smaller (no more than 1500 people voting at the same place) which make the counting is extremely easy.
We have most results by midnight the same day. Elections day are always on a Sunday so that everyone can turn up, the number for each voting booth is not that big and most voting booth close at 6pm. We count the ballots just after they close, usually we're done by 8pm, sometimes even earlier. The numbers are then sent to the ministry which publish them as they come after 8pm. Honestly it's crazy smooth.
And still after all thos hours you can't guarantee a fair result
This election is not chaotic, it's unprecedented and unpredictable. But that we cannot know (in advance) does not make it 'chaotic'. Your channel is more and more mainstream sensationalism every day, I have to say.
That's the media landscape for you today. Much better to have democratic "chaos" than authoritarian peace.
Yeah, noticed this also. Wish all the best for France
Yeah, I noticed this too. Too much speculation and hyperbole
It was called out of nowhere + the far right is gaining + the greens, communists and social democrats formed an unlikely coalition to counter this. As RN the other parties scrambled to create a barrier against it, massive demonstrations. Yet calling all this chaotic is "mainstream media", when I see these idiotic comments I really feel like there´s no hope.
These elections might change the face of Europe as we know it. From an empire, to a 3rd world country
Come on everyone, marshmallows at the ready 🔥🔥🔥
You guys really have become the voice of objective truth in the news-world. Just straight facts. Love it!
Look, i've always been a leftist, but we live in the real world, and this have been sad to watch from my pov...
For the past decades I witnessed every elections in France, the gig is that no recent French president was actualy elected for who he was, but who he faced, Le Pen's party always had that aura of racist and extremist party wich mean peoples who had same convictions were motivated enough to vote for them, leading the second turn as a " We need to vote to prevent Le Pen from reaching power !" not vote for the best of two candidates. We call it the vote barrage ( dam vote )
After so many years we got the results of such catastrophic politicals schemes. Non far right politicians realised that if you let immigration go rampant, it means always more and more peoples that will vote against Le Pens, because of their positions on immigration. And no matter how bad a president can be ( Take Macron as an exemple ) when he faces the far right, he's sure to win and get to power, but as years passes, the country is in a turning point, some citys are scary to live in, criminality and violence skyrocketted, unemployement and insecurity just keep going up, gang violence reached peaks, and even with our very strict gun laws, shootings in the streets between criminals are more and more common, killing civilians in their homes as collateral damages.
France is also kind of a " USA sponge", whatever americans do, we copy them within few years span, french politics his slwoly turning in an immitation of american bi party system, and medias in generals are filled with more and more anti french / white propaganda, hate against french peoples has gone wild and unpunished on tiktok and twitter, using racism and colonialism as an excuse (like some blacks peoples still use slavery today to be racist against whites americans ) but the left have a simple moto, " Living together " and they won't fight against the hate coming from non whites in order not to alienate their potential voters.
And to "everyones" surprise, hate leads to more hate and peoples grew pissed enough to vote for far right en masse. Weird how that happen ?
_"some citys are scary to live in, criminality and violence skyrocketted, unemployement and insecurity just keep going up, gang violence reached peaks, and even with our very strict gun laws, shootings in the streets between criminals are more and more common, killing civilians in their homes as collateral damages."_
Remember kids, anyone who tried to prevent this from happening was F A R - R I G H T.
I guess you're far right now too.
perfect summary
Buddy you are not a leftist, racism is a disease😂
Thank you!
American needs to know what is really happening in France.
As a right leaning American i thank you for your empathy in understanding the whole picture and opposing viewpoints. Its very rare at least where I am.
As an American voter I am drooling over the French Ranked Choice Voting that we need to fix the dis functional Congress
Still not proportional. empty areas in the country get as many lawmakers than highly populated urban areas (for these elections).
the congres dont want it because a reasonable party would come to be
It's not ranked choice voting, it's a two-round system, you are thinking of Ireland.
As a French I am drooling over any country with a proportional system. Or even the EU parliament minus the 5% threshold.
The question is are we ready for season 6 of the french musical chairs of polical chaos
i am
We need about a century of results like these everywhere just to correct the damage.
The tumultuous political scene in the US, UK, France (and other countries) is in a way, fascinating to observe.
Best explanation of the French voting system I've seen. Kudos.
Thanks for explaining the French election system for a non-French in an understandable manner.
Of course the French has made it complex they love complexity in France.
Two turn élection isn t rocket science.
18th century illiterate farmers were able to grasp it, you should be able to too. 😅
@@etienne8110 he must be american, anything complex is difficult for them
@@etienne8110 American democracy is mostly for show, the unelected actually run the country. The only difference between Trump and Biden is that Trump was outrageous and Biden was sleepy. It’s like choosing between watching a comedy and a drama. The actual policies were about identical.
Minority based majorities as so much more simple. Under Corbyn labour got more votes than Starmer
as of Tuesday evening, 190 triangulaires are now duels, as 190 candidates have stood down to permit votes against the RN.
OR... for RN. Because a lot of people cannot vote for La France Insoumise.
pretty funny macron and mélanchon's sides critisizing each others all years long decide suddenly to associate with each others just t obeat RN and wil lcontinue arguing later
completly ignoring what peoples voted for
People need to see that Europe hasn’t just shifted right for no reason. More and more people are starting to feel that it’s enough
You saw what the Turks did to the Syrians? Copy and paste that. If they fear for their lives they'll go.
Yeah, you are right. The only problem is that the right usually do not propose any solutions either. I am not French but the only good things National rally proposed are extension of direct democracy and switch to proportional representation system. The problem is that this is pretty much it.
le pen isnt there to stay. ask poland and Kaczyński. they had enough of there right wing party. ppl need to learn how bad right wing parties are for their country. there will be more protests then ever before.
@@greenlime8726 The only reason why the RN proposes representational systems is that it would benefit them. It's not for the good of democracy. The traditional parties only oppose it because it would be to their detriment. None of that discussion should be taken into account when choosing who to vote for, it's all political calculations.
But the france hasn't shifted right. The far left has gained almost as much.
I’m surprised you didn’t say “far right” a million times like the mainstream media does.
Dear French - thank You for having enough sense to reject the Putin’s puppet
Called “insane” when your side looses😂
Insane results!? Are you high? 🤣
Insane as it’s a first time we have this split, what bothers you ?
An almost perfectly equal three way tie all accross the country is insane. It's also almost impossible to govern.
Insanity in Anglo standards is normalcy in French standards
A perfect three-way tie is pretty nuts, no matter who’s on what ballot.
It's not chaotic. It's just a turning point.
A turning point in to complete chaos? A three way tie makes it impossible to govern. This is very chaotic as forming a coalition will be extremely hard.
@@patrickbateman1660 What happens when you run in a direction and you want to turn the opposite way? You slow down to a stop before you can run in the opposite direction. That slowing down is where France currently is, aka a point of turning towards the opposite way, the change being a shift from left wing to right wing.
This 'chaos' is the transit status of France and it's entirely normal.
Sure, the fact that France is bound to stay in place untill a solution comes is indeed a problem.
Why don't they just use star voting and get rid of all this craziness?
I was so baffled learning about this 2 stages election system.. It's built for politicking & under table deals.
@bensmith3890 Which clearly doesn't work, otherwise we wouldn't be here right now.
Why is it insane when the people want something different
Because it's always smarter to call your political opponents mentally ill
Cuz media said so
Because there is nothing different, you're just being fooled to not realize that 99% of the same economical and foreing policy decisions will be made by the other parties.
Your life quality won't change, you'll just be lead by a carrot on a stick, just held by someone else that promises something else and never delivers.
Depends what "different" is. RN ran on an almost empty platform, except for immigration and safety issues. It's honestly kinda insane that they got so much support without having to state what their policy is on a lot of subjects. They don't even fake anything, they straight up dodge questions about most topics and have pulled back on a lot of national promises they made during the european election.
@@44ThaNatos44 maybe because people are so fed up with inmigration
First Macron, then the Tory
The established "defenders of democracy" seemed determined to cynically game said Democracy all to push any threat to the status Quo away and pretend the real grievances of the French people don't exist.
When françe sneezes rest of the Europe caught cold
- A wise guy
Metternich said that.
@@walideg5304 let me guess it by any chance are you from Indià
@@Anonymous-kd2yy no
@@walideg5304 it was a very popular question in India that repeats almost every year in 10th grade
Waiting on the 2nd round analysis
The people lose 100% of the time when they vote far right. 100% of the time
Tell me how importing the third world has helped any non-rich person in europe
An introduction to French elections. Elections are in two "tours" the first is open to any parties or independents. To win outright in the first tour a party must gain 51% of all the votes cast "and" 25% of the entire electorate. This prevents someone profiting from a low turnout. In the second tour, only the top two are allowed to present in each constituency. There can be a certain amount of coalitions formed and parties joined. The winning candidates can then if they have a majority take power or lesser parties can again form a coalition. Bare in mind that this has no effect on the President, he remains until the end of his tenier. The President then choses ministers of state including Prime Minister. It is entirely normal for people to make protest votes in the first tour, and obviously supporters of minority groups will gravitate to their closest candidate ideologically in the second tour. Paradoxically a good result in the first tour ça be detrimental to that party in the second. Imagine a second Brexit vote after people had been startled by the initial result.... Et maintenant, on verra !!!
Also the Premier tour has never reflected the results of the deuxiem for 70 years.
Made sense as long as people rallied to the mainstream parties. They’re so widely disliked today the old tactic of stopping someone else you despise through strategic voting alliances has lost its effectiveness. Add to that the fact the centrists and the left loathe each other, you can see why finding common ground is so difficult. The 70 year rule might just get to be broken this year. Blame the result on Macron who called an election he wasn’t compelled to call in the first place.
Merci beaucoup ❤
Macron got completely crazy.....
I think he's just sick of it all and wants out.
@@joeyjojojrshabadoo7462 it looks like that
@@joeyjojojrshabadoo7462 He's still the president for three more years. This is about making him/his party look more reasonable by comparison.
There are canyons and falls everywhere, if he wants to end it. No need to take the whole country along....
God forbid they use ranked choice voting
The political maps are always so telling to me. Its a small concentration of people dictating to the rest that they must provide for them. Every time.
As a portuguese i just hope this distracts the french players in the quaters of the euros
lmfao
As long as you don't goal against your own or concede a penalty, Portugal should be fine regarding France last matches.
😂😂😂 hope you are wrong even if I like Cristiano.
If France had Australian style preferential voting it would all be over after the first round.
Macron is ideologically closer to le pen than he is to melenchon.
LMAO. Is that why they're allying with Melenchon, clown boy?
Neither Macron nor Le Pen are friend to us Algerians! We’re moving onto to the English world, Africa is done with these French. They needed us more than we needed them.
@@thegoodpimps nibba what
@@thegoodpimps we dont need you gtfo
@@thegoodpimps Ew.
The best analysis I have watched so far. Thanks for the well articulated thoughts
And everyone is obvious about how the party system helps to maintain separations, does not press for cooperation, and ultimately becomes "much to do about nothing!" And this is true of every one of them in every country!
6:49 He is right about it.
Actually, very well explained. Good video.
Not insane, but expected and understandable. We see what's happening there from another country.
What are you talking about? An almost perfect three way tie is crazy and makes the second round even crazier. It's going to be impossible to govern. You saw this coming?
And you think voting for bardella is gonna solve it? That dude knows nothing beside "immigrants bad". A total NPC
@@patrickbateman1660 It's going to be impossible to govern, exactly! Exactly the plan of Macron.
If he win the election: he reaffirms his strength as the President.
If he loses, it will be impossible for the RN to govern, so he can plan a simple "see? They can't do shit either".
It's a win-win situation for Macron.
...for Macron. Not for the French people.
@@houssineatm7827 Too bad I don't care what a "Hussein" says, you will go back.
@@houssineatm7827 I have a Muslim name too, but the fact that your name is "Houssine" explains why you're against Bardella. He is def right that "immigrants bad" considering what Arabs/Muslims are doing in western countries.
despite the claims of 'not being a racist party' or 'not far right' whatever dumb stuff they're saying, the things supporters of Le Pen on the internet openly say constantly is about that as their one and only rallying point. it's pretty clear what they're about
Yep. So pack your bags and leave then.
Pretty clear to me what the far left is all about - no left/right/centrist has won or lost just quite yet but already the far left is protesting the vote by burning and looting and painting and what not.
Thanks for the explanation. Very interesting!!!
There is a mistake at 4:41 RN got 9.3M votes and not 12M. That 12 figure was used during election night, based on estimates. Final result are now available
This is only if you split RN and LR with Ciotti, they are together so if you add their numbers it's more like 10.5M (and around 33%)
They did get more than 10M votes because the 9.3M figure does not include votes from Eric Ciotti aligned Republicans who allied with the National Rally
@@Noudapi still, the graphic shows 12M so...
8 candidates qualifying for the 2nd round is about mathematically impossible. The 12.5% cutoff is of registered voters, not those turning out to vote/those voting. So effectively a candidate needed around 18% of the vote to qualify for the 2nd round.
That's why they said 100% turnout with an equal number of votes to all candidates. It is mathematically possible but practically impossible.
@@fredleung616 The point is why say it. As the report goes on to say there are some jurisdictions with 4 qualified candidates and a very odd 5 candidate result.
@@fredleung616 Wrong choice of words. It is also practically possible. All that needs to happen is for every single registered voter to actually vote and the total number of registered voters to be a number that can divide equally by 8 and then for the votes to be evenly split 8 ways. To expect that to happen is probably about as realistic as to expect all people to live in peace and harmony for all time to come.
People have differing points of view. What a surprise.
Thank you for explaining. What happened to just the POPULAR VOTE. The power belongs to the people. Why does every country have ridiculous voting rounds.
mob rule is evil
Brilliant video guys, thank you!
Seems weird they dont use preferential voting, would mean both rounds could be done with only one vote
Thats what I was thinking, it seems to be designed to help centrist parties
Few countries use it.
All systems have pro and cons.
The preferential scoring tends to favours the milder candidates for ex.
Tending to lead to the same politics going on whatever the winner is...
@@Arthur-vb3seI think you may have a point there. Either system is better than The British first past the post. However they are all better than China’s and North Korea’s system of government.
@@ozbaz99 so refreshing to see a comment thread with common sense
It would allow new ideas and candidates in, our politics arent allowing that
interesting to note how National rally is actually represented by members that ethnically represent their regions, for instance in departement Nord there is at least one member with a flemish surname that won 45%+ of his district.
In French Flanders there is actually a lot of flemish pride all be it primarily francophone and given how economically strong flanders is, how many people travel from departement nord to work in flanders with it being quite flemish nationalist now but still very open and respectfull to work migrants the feeling may have caught on.
that's just it, this isn't your great grandfathers nationalism, this is a pan european nationalism, flemish nationalists go to the same events as french nationalists despite one being statebound and the other seperatist.
to that extent there was an event in Brussels just months ago and maybe that is the biggest contribution of the EU to these parties, they forced them to sit together and they realised that to succeed they needed to actually organise together.
whether they will deliver in the end remains to be seen but Europe is not the US, we need to stop the demographic collapse of native europeans and most of all the cultural war it has brought with it
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Thanks for your video! this is one of the most concise and clear introductions to the current "chaos" in french!
Result we don't like = insane result, amazing
Yeap
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Why is it "Wild"?
It's a bit disturbing how popular fascists are all over the world
Excellent explanation Thanks 😊
Among the lower class, National Rally is by far the most popular party. That speaks volumes.
Yeah, it’s my father in law voting for them too. Where he lives there hasn’t been a foreigner in decades, but he keeps on talking about it like it is an epidemic that is the root of all evil. The fear mongering gets to some people and makes them go to measures that aren’t rational given reality. But oh well, a few years of right-wing leadership will show how poorly they solve problems. Then we can go back to sanity.
lower class = true people
In what sense?
that's ironic considering right wing governments don't do much for lower classes
The socialists are unpopular with the working class, but more popular with the middle class.
Everyone is talking about technicalities, no one is telling me what do the French people want?
If you want a very concise view into the french mind : we don't mind hard times, we mind it very much when it's a lot easier for the neighbour. Currently, quality of life has been declining. Different types of people blame it on different factors. The lower the social class (as per highest diploma, from below high school to phd), the more likely people blame it on immigration. The higher it is, the more likely they blame wealth hoarding. It's not my opinion, it's polls. One thing is certain, we all want Macron out. We cannot agree on whether we want a social democracy or a more authoritarian regime to replace him.
The French are extremely divided and polarized. Those are not sudden results from some swingers who change their vote from left to right regularly between elections. This three blocs division is a long-going trend and won’t end soon.
@@Cacophatonyou are the most taxed and socialist country in the west how are you still blaming rich people
@@wussrestbrook1200 taxes were higher and welfare was better during the 'good times'. Somehow it turned worse right when the government started trying to appease the rich. Just like it happens in every country on Earth.
@@over9000lord you mean when 75 percent of the world was a bombed poor shithole? Yeah no wonder france and the west were treated like darlings
Wondering who would end up in civil war first: 🇲🇫 or 🇺🇸
How can anyone one seriously be suprised by these 'insane' results?
One common argument from Macron is to say that the NFP (mostly Mélenchon’s France Unbound) are just as much extremists as the National Rally. And that is utterly false, they’re reformists, maybe a little radical for some of them, but not extremists. It isn’t anticapitalist far-left. But that’s a strategy they use to make the NFP look bad.
Admittedly, Poutou was a part of the NFP as well, and he is far-left. But his party’s candidates were like… 2% of the NFP at most.
As a French, I'm so happy to finally see a political video explaining the situation without everyone saying to vote one or another in the comments!
I can finally read interesting comments
All this manipulation of who can vote for who just show how france need a better and more democratic system of vote. Politics shouldnt decide on who you can vote for or not
Still better than the american system that only supports 2 parties.
I would say it's better than the UK's system where you can get millions of votes and no seats, while a party with *fewer* votes can get dozens of them.
They don't decide, they ask you to. You're free and only master of your own vote.
It's only "insane" if you have a very limited ability to connect actions with results.
Many of us have been saying for years that reckless immigration policies would cause a backlash - and we were called every name in the book for it.
he said insane with the meaning of unprecedented.
lmao 2 IQ smooth brain opinion
Because you're treating a consequence of deeper problems as _the_ problem. Your standards of living won't get better if you send the boats back but don't fix any of the underlying problems that led to migration becoming necessary to avoid economic collapse. It's scapegoating very vulnerable people for the failings of the rich and powerful and trying to solve a bunch of complex problems with a solution that's simple, neat, feels right and absolutely cannot work because it misses the point.
@@Talisguy Open borders were implemented to create a more divided society and to supress wages.
It was a policy that only *ever* benefited the already wealthy at the expense of the bulk of the population.
"Open borders."
Lol.
Just to make sure. What is happening here is UNPRECEDENTED!
Is it really "insane" when the results followed almost exactly what the polls predicted, and what the European results were a month ago? It would have been insane to expect a different result.
Le Pen ❤
Being labelled far right just means your opposition is far wrong ~ Beermanmcdrink4151
Maloni was called far right and she is more centrist than Macron and is hanging out with the world leaders that the leftists love. It is just an ad hominem at this point
Someone should take France aside and explain that preferential voting is a thing.
Still better than first past the post. It's good enough.
Proportional is used almost everywhere in the democratic world.
FPTP, Two-rounds or Preferential all suck because one circonscription can only send one deputy. Leading to gerrymandering, tactical voting, etc. And no rtepresentation from smaller opinion trends.
@@tkg__ but a pain in ass having multiple elections
@@MarcusCactus it's doesn't have to be the case that one constituency only sends one representative. See "Haire Clark" voting system. That's a different issue to whether it's preferential.
It’s heartening that this journalist wore his best t-shirt for this presentation.
Very well explained. Congrats.