Hey Neil. Thanks for all the info, influenced me getting my L4802. Going to do a YT review, hope you don’t mind me sending people here for more detail.
I like these upgrades. Your videos are so much fun to watch as I try to figure out what lion get. Wish I lived closer to you but do purchase from you online when I can. Great service from your team!!
Neil - There are a number of dealers who do these videos as a way of educating and building dealer loyalty. Some of them are very good. Your videos are great! Really well done. It would be interesting to see some videos done on various use cases with the tractor. For example, trees, stumps, backhoe use, rocks, in the field brush etc. It just expands the general knowledge. Thank you for all of this!
Having owned a MX5800HST, the ability to operate the PTO off the tractor seat is fantastic. Also, relocating the PTO on/off switch is a good improvement and will save a lot of back twisting. Good stuff.
Agree with Neil that we bought the MX6000 instead of the L4701. Price was close. But, I loved the larger tires and more 'grunt' in 4wd which I needed for road maintenance.
Was set on the Grand L. Saw brand new one on the lot and all the plastic was destroyed by the sun. This seems like a higher quality unit. I operated both. I think I will order this one with the hydrostatic trans.
I really like the new upgrades. I have noticed that the L4701 has never been the heavy hitter that the L2501 has been. At least as far as sales go. I have the gear drive, ag tired version of the L2501 and it has been an absolute delight to own. It sits parked when not in use with 4 John Deere tractors and a Ford tractor and I have yet to have to break up a fight. I watched your video about the pulling power test gear drive vs. hydrostatic. That was a big sell for me. I have a Kubota GR2120 lawn tractor and I am stuck with Kubotas goofy treadle pedal on that. Although I love that machine, I am not a fan of the treadle pedal. I also have a big John Deere lawn tractor that has the twin touch pedals, which I prefer hands down. Although, the Kubota GR2120 will mow circles around it. Kubota needs to toot their own horn about their Glide Steer feature. That is amazing. It turns that mower into a zero turn( or nearly so) Thanks Neal. Love your videos. I watch them all. You are stuck with me now.
Really appreciate all of the information you provide. When I was tractor shopping this is the one I really wanted but there were none around to be had and I even called another state. Needed one in a hurry for "snow season" so opted with the L3902. I may try to upgrade later. Maybe you could do a video on trading up and the in's/out's of that.
For $50k these tractors should come with brush inserts! I get that these level of tractors are utilitarian and not luxury oriented like the Grand series but still! I do have a 3902 and love the machine…very much like the upgrades from the 01 series but I have spent a bunch more money on upgrades … Like good hoops for tie down anchors (no real good spot in the front to tie down the tractor for hauling purposes) and I’ve installed the Brush inserts for the grill…also installed a 3rd function system! Over all very happy with the tractor and performs as it should.
I just bought a L4802 HST 4wd. It was $47k out-the-door, with a loader, 6' bush hog, and pallet forks. It was a lot of money, but I feel like I got my money's worth.
Hey Neil, your videos have been very informative and helpful, especially for a tractor newbie like me. Would love to see a video on the new LX3520 & LX4020. Not much about them out there.
@@MessicksEquip I actually have one on order and waiting. Also ordered the LX2980 snowblower, which seems to have a new subframe too. Been watching lots of videos, especially yours, to get informed. If you were closer, I would have gone to you guys, but although I'm in the NorthEast, I'm way north. Another great video would be concerning the mechanical self leveling on the LX models. Some love it, others hates it but would love to see a video truly addressing the benefits and caveats.
That would be great on the BX tractors. I see a lot of guys on RUclips have added a similar type filter up front in the BX. Some use a Kubota part to do so. I will be doing this before winter, the stock location is horrible.
As a note.... if you do buy those rubber mats, take the time to clean and paint the existing floor pan and allow the paint to cure fully... if you just plunk the mat down over the bare metal , it'll rust to beat the band.
Thanks Neil, One of the things I have noticed with the deep groves & notches in a Floor Mat, certain boots of Mine get stuck in a Mat notch and the Groves in the Clutch Pedal. And with the strong Clutch Spring I have to Forceable pull My foot free. Mike M.
How many modles does Kubota need? Rural King has a hand full of tractors with clear differences. Too many slight variations was the primary reason I got a different branded orange tractor. I am still really happy with that other branded orange tractor. You have made a career talking about how 3 tractors are pretty much the same but have slight differences. I think one tractor did not have a couple options but it was cheaper to add the options after than installed at the factory instead of getting the tractor with the options from the factory.
I like the fact that the Hydraulic couplers are tucked and protected. I seriously considered buying a 3560 grand L with the GST tranny. But the exposed hydraulic couplers scared me away, and I ended up with a JD 3039R instead.
We bought the 3560 Grand L anyway. It definitely is a trade-off, but we like the deluxe features of the Grand L series and added a lot of their options that you can only get on that series. We really like it and just exercise caution in the woods.
Neal its hard to tell, is this the same frame, tire size and loader as a L3902? I have a 3902 and love it. One thing i will say i never ask for more pto hp. I have never had an issue grinding up really nasty brush, grasses and wood but i do wish sometimes it had more loaded lift power. Not that its light on power, but more is always better right? So to other buyers, 39 hp really is enough to brush hog and till, so unless you want to have the most power in the platform on your block, 3902 will do the job too. I bet the 2502 is a real treat too. No emissions is a great sale point
I like that button for dismount allowance, Someone needs to mention that you can’t hop out of the kubota ctl’s and leave the hydraulic front supply running, we run our wood splitter on our ctl out of the seat, it was a deal breaker for me chose a bobcat instead Cheers from Aus
It looks like the new L4802 has LED headlights like the lower L series, you didn’t mention that. It’s a nice upgrade. Also, correct me if I’m wrong…I thought the new fuel filter / separator housing has a water in fuel sensor and warning light? This one appears to not have that.
Hi Neil, a long time ago you did a video about arms that you folks make for BX series Kubota tractor 3 point hitches, what are they called and are they in stock?
No they don’t. A lot of people don’t like it compared to the more common “twin pedal” style. The thing is, even if you hate it at first, you get used to it pretty quickly and it won’t bother you anymore.
How hard & how much to get a fully enclosed cab for a tractor in the 4000 series ? Seems like 5000 & up are the only ones that have the luxury for a enclosed cab. I was quoted $10g for cab, $4-5g for arms No offense, with the mx6000 vs 4800 in this video. If I’m spending $50-60 grand An extra $4-5g in price isn’t gonna make a difference to me, I’d want to extra horse power
If you got a cab one I understand the frustration. I have a L6060 cab with air ride and in rough terrain the arm rest hits the pto switch and cuts it off
@MessicksEquip They don't shut off. Bunch of videos about it on utube. Mine had the same problem. The cable doesn't apply enough pressure to turn it back off. I have to reach under and move the actual arm on the machine by hand. 150hr L2501
@randalltolman2368 I did lube the cable and the spring on the actuator itself underneath. I'm mostly doing loader work/non pto implements. For how much I use the pto, I can reach underneath and force it all the way off. The issue is that the wire just folds when turning the pto off. It'll pull just fine, doesnt push. The part of the wire with the rubber boot that isn't in the cable is useless pushing. It should just be a solid lever attached to the actuator underneath. There is even an empty slot for one. I'm sure the $25 kubota saved will be meaningless the first time some idiot gets hurt.
@@SpartanZapp Yes on R4, loader adds $6500... and that is the hydro model, not the 2WD or gear drive. You can look all this up on the online build and price tool.
But it's not just the total acreage, it's the acreage that you're going to do something on. If you have 40 acres with 20 acres of woods and a 5 acre pond, then you're maybe looking at 15 acres that you're going to tractor on (assuming you're not going into the woods for logging or something).
@@MessicksEquip I actually live in Thailand and have 25 acres of land of which 3 acres are ponds and 1 acre of bamboo trees. No forest, just fruit trees around the edge and dividing the fields of the property. I just purchased a Kubota L5018 50hp tractor with bulldozer, plow, farrow and rotervator.
You need to push a button to operate the rear pto parked? Even with the parking brake on and Transmission in neutral….? I find this an over engineered and in desirable safety feature. Really my only gripe with that machine I can find besides the load valve being mounted forward of the operator station still.
All these years of making tractors and kubota still stands among the rest as one of the only tractors to not follow standards set forth decades ago...the pto shaft is still, too close to the drawbar.
I know what you are referring to, and I've not once seen this be a problem. As long as your not using a $1500 CV drive shaft on your implement its a non-issue. Kubota follows ISO standards, not SAE. Concern only found on the internet.
@@MessicksEquipright but the ASAE standard has been around longer than ISO. Last time I looked at the L6060 it didn't have the length or height requirements that everyone but Kubota seems to follow. So a commercial contractor with a tri-wing mower, Kubota is not the compact tractor for that use due to the CV joint.
@@pc5569 Not all 'CV joints that are an issue. I hooked a round baler up to an LX one time just for fun and it worked. When there is a conflict I believe its a CV so large that its way outside the HP class of the tractor. Ex, 150Hp CV joint on a 30Hp tractor maybe a problem, but your probably doing something you should not be doing to begin with. If anyone looked, I'd suspect you would find all the Korean tractors are the same as they also follow ISO also.
@@MessicksEquip I'm doing something I shouldn't if someone looked? A Bush Hog TD1100 is appropriate for the tractor. Don't be so arrogant that your insulting. As far as Korean tractors, I can only speak to LS and they meet ASAE.
I have a L6060 cab and I can run our bush hog 1812 batwing behind it. Kubota sells a drop drawbar that gives the correct spacing and it makes it a non issue.
Hey Neil. Thanks for all the info, influenced me getting my L4802. Going to do a YT review, hope you don’t mind me sending people here for more detail.
Please do!
Ordered one back in Feb. I should be taking delivery on Monday. Finally!!!!
NIce to see Neil finally do a video on this particular model.
Thank goodness.....now I can get some floormats for L4701. And Messick's had 'em in stock. 🙂
I just bought a MX5400DT and love it! Best money I ever spent!
I like these upgrades. Your videos are so much fun to watch as I try to figure out what lion get. Wish I lived closer to you but do purchase from you online when I can. Great service from your team!!
Thank you very much!
Great upgrades to the L4701. I still opted for the MX5400DT. Thanks for another great video Neal!!!
Another great review. Messick's videos hit differently. This is also why I order from your site and pay shipping! Thank you
Neil - There are a number of dealers who do these videos as a way of educating and building dealer loyalty. Some of them are very good. Your videos are great! Really well done. It would be interesting to see some videos done on various use cases with the tractor. For example, trees, stumps, backhoe use, rocks, in the field brush etc. It just expands the general knowledge. Thank you for all of this!
I've done 800+ videos. Scroll back and you'll find a lot of use case videos (mostly working at my house)
Having owned a MX5800HST, the ability to operate the PTO off the tractor seat is fantastic. Also, relocating the PTO on/off switch is a good improvement and will save a lot of back twisting. Good stuff.
Agree with Neil that we bought the MX6000 instead of the L4701. Price was close. But, I loved the larger tires and more 'grunt' in 4wd which I needed for road maintenance.
Was set on the Grand L. Saw brand new one on the lot and all the plastic was destroyed by the sun. This seems like a higher quality unit. I operated both. I think I will order this one with the hydrostatic trans.
I really like the new upgrades.
I have noticed that the L4701 has never been the heavy hitter that the L2501 has been. At least as far as sales go.
I have the gear drive, ag tired version of the L2501 and it has been an absolute delight to own. It sits parked when not in use with 4 John Deere tractors and a Ford tractor and I have yet to have to break up a fight.
I watched your video about the pulling power test gear drive vs. hydrostatic. That was a big sell for me.
I have a Kubota GR2120 lawn tractor and I am stuck with Kubotas goofy treadle pedal on that. Although I love that machine, I am not a fan of the treadle pedal. I also have a big John Deere lawn tractor that has the twin touch pedals, which I prefer hands down. Although, the Kubota GR2120 will mow circles around it.
Kubota needs to toot their own horn about their Glide Steer feature. That is amazing. It turns that mower into a zero turn( or nearly so)
Thanks Neal. Love your videos. I watch them all. You are stuck with me now.
Really appreciate all of the information you provide. When I was tractor shopping this is the one I really wanted but there were none around to be had and I even called another state. Needed one in a hurry for "snow season" so opted with the L3902. I may try to upgrade later. Maybe you could do a video on trading up and the in's/out's of that.
ruclips.net/video/twiuHtt4r74/видео.html
For $50k these tractors should come with brush inserts! I get that these level of tractors are utilitarian and not luxury oriented like the Grand series but still!
I do have a 3902 and love the machine…very much like the upgrades from the 01 series but I have spent a bunch more money on upgrades …
Like good hoops for tie down anchors (no real good spot in the front to tie down the tractor for hauling purposes) and I’ve installed the Brush inserts for the grill…also installed a 3rd function system!
Over all very happy with the tractor and performs as it should.
I just bought a L4802 HST 4wd. It was $47k out-the-door, with a loader, 6' bush hog, and pallet forks. It was a lot of money, but I feel like I got my money's worth.
Thank you Neil!
Hey Neil, your videos have been very informative and helpful, especially for a tractor newbie like me. Would love to see a video on the new LX3520 & LX4020. Not much about them out there.
brand new models, dealers are receiving their very first units. I'll have a video up as soon as my mine are setup.
@@MessicksEquip I actually have one on order and waiting. Also ordered the LX2980 snowblower, which seems to have a new subframe too. Been watching lots of videos, especially yours, to get informed. If you were closer, I would have gone to you guys, but although I'm in the NorthEast, I'm way north. Another great video would be concerning the mechanical self leveling on the LX models. Some love it, others hates it but would love to see a video truly addressing the benefits and caveats.
I'd LOVE a fuel filter like that on BX's, the fuel filter on the underside is bull@#$%!
Agree it needs improved. Not sure where they could tuck something this large.
That would be great on the BX tractors. I see a lot of guys on RUclips have added a similar type filter up front in the BX. Some use a Kubota part to do so. I will be doing this before winter, the stock location is horrible.
As a note.... if you do buy those rubber mats, take the time to clean and paint the existing floor pan and allow the paint to cure fully... if you just plunk the mat down over the bare metal , it'll rust to beat the band.
Thanks Neil,
One of the things I have noticed with the deep groves & notches in a Floor Mat, certain boots of Mine get stuck in a Mat notch and the Groves in the Clutch Pedal. And with the strong Clutch Spring I have to Forceable pull My foot free.
Mike M.
I wish the L4060 had that PTO switch instead of having to flip the seat forward. Makes it a PITA when trying to use my sprayer wand.
How many modles does Kubota need? Rural King has a hand full of tractors with clear differences. Too many slight variations was the primary reason I got a different branded orange tractor. I am still really happy with that other branded orange tractor. You have made a career talking about how 3 tractors are pretty much the same but have slight differences. I think one tractor did not have a couple options but it was cheaper to add the options after than installed at the factory instead of getting the tractor with the options from the factory.
blessing and a curse. There are specific customers and applications for each of their models, but it does make it confusing.
I like the fact that the Hydraulic couplers are tucked and protected. I seriously considered buying a 3560 grand L with the GST tranny. But the exposed hydraulic couplers scared me away, and I ended up with a JD 3039R instead.
We bought the 3560 Grand L anyway. It definitely is a trade-off, but we like the deluxe features of the Grand L series and added a lot of their options that you can only get on that series. We really like it and just exercise caution in the woods.
Dealers can route couplers inside loader arms if thy know what there doing, ours was done when we asked
Neal its hard to tell, is this the same frame, tire size and loader as a L3902?
I have a 3902 and love it. One thing i will say i never ask for more pto hp. I have never had an issue grinding up really nasty brush, grasses and wood but i do wish sometimes it had more loaded lift power. Not that its light on power, but more is always better right?
So to other buyers, 39 hp really is enough to brush hog and till, so unless you want to have the most power in the platform on your block, 3902 will do the job too. I bet the 2502 is a real treat too. No emissions is a great sale point
No, it's a step larger all around
can I just get that bigger water separator on my L4701? that would be great
I love my L4701
Great video…
I’m ordering mats as we speak…
Can you get a mat for the backhoe BH 92??
Thank you
Thx. None for the backhoe that I have seen.
Is there an improvement to the seat suspension over the older 4701?
I like that button for dismount allowance, Someone needs to mention that you can’t hop out of the kubota ctl’s and leave the hydraulic front supply running, we run our wood splitter on our ctl out of the seat, it was a deal breaker for me chose a bobcat instead
Cheers from Aus
L4240 has to have the seat positioned up to be able to use the PTO while off the machine.
It looks like the new L4802 has LED headlights like the lower L series, you didn’t mention that. It’s a nice upgrade. Also, correct me if I’m wrong…I thought the new fuel filter / separator housing has a water in fuel sensor and warning light? This one appears to not have that.
I know it may be a minor detail but I have to have the rubber floor mat.
And unlike the L4701, the L4802 looks like it comes with the right side grab handle. Will the new fuel filter work on the L4701?
I had a 4701. Liked the tractor but ended up selling it strictly because the loader was so weak.
Neil why did they lower the gpm to 7.8 down from the 4701 instead of raising them
Backhoe options…does this still take the BH92 that is unavailable anywhere on the east coast?
It does. I'm on the east coast, and I have BH92's. :-)
Hi Neil, a long time ago you did a video about arms that you folks make for BX series Kubota tractor 3 point hitches, what are they called and are they in stock?
Yes. www.messicks.com/part/k2561-38300fr?vendorcode=fr09
Does Kubota offer a hydrostatic tractor with something different then the heal toe peddle ?
No they don’t. A lot of people don’t like it compared to the more common “twin pedal” style. The thing is, even if you hate it at first, you get used to it pretty quickly and it won’t bother you anymore.
@@tylermacconnell217 I ran one for about 15 minutes. Decided it was a deal breaker for me.
Thanks for the response.
Would love to see a new step for the Grand L that would be a lot cheaper than the aftermarket $400+
How hard & how much to get a fully enclosed cab for a tractor in the 4000 series ?
Seems like 5000 & up are the only ones that have the luxury for a enclosed cab. I was quoted $10g for cab, $4-5g for arms
No offense, with the mx6000 vs 4800 in this video. If I’m spending $50-60 grand An extra $4-5g in price isn’t gonna make a difference to me, I’d want to extra horse power
What’s the biggest tractor Kubota makes without def ?
M4-071
Can the PTO button be added to my 4760 with air ride seat?
If you got a cab one I understand the frustration. I have a L6060 cab with air ride and in rough terrain the arm rest hits the pto switch and cuts it off
@@braxtonwiggins6576 I should have explained that I wanted the dashboard switch to overide seat operator switch.
Concept would be easy to replicate. Just wire a switch to the flip forward seat button.
should have put the loader control on the fender and did dual pedals.
Need to go to the GL60 for that.
What is the weight with loader
Anybody notice that they cut the gpm back on it or was it a miss print
Has kubota issued a recall for the pto switch on the L 01 series yet?
I have heard zero issues.
@MessicksEquip
They don't shut off.
Bunch of videos about it on utube. Mine had the same problem. The cable doesn't apply enough pressure to turn it back off. I have to reach under and move the actual arm on the machine by hand. 150hr L2501
learned something new. There is a updated part available if you talk to your dealer. Looks like we have never sold one, so it must be pretty isolated.
If you spray some lube down there and work it it sticks some but there is a new spring upgrade available
@randalltolman2368
I did lube the cable and the spring on the actuator itself underneath. I'm mostly doing loader work/non pto implements. For how much I use the pto, I can reach underneath and force it all the way off.
The issue is that the wire just folds when turning the pto off. It'll pull just fine, doesnt push. The part of the wire with the rubber boot that isn't in the cable is useless pushing.
It should just be a solid lever attached to the actuator underneath. There is even an empty slot for one. I'm sure the $25 kubota saved will be meaningless the first time some idiot gets hurt.
37k HST with loader and landpride bb1272 on new titan tires
At 10:29 what rear and are we looking at? Not the 4802...
Good eye, thats actually from the MX6000 that we had sitting next to it.
I need a grand L 2502 for $1999
50K and no armrests.
MSRP is 32k
With a loader and r4s Neil?
@@SpartanZapp Yes on R4, loader adds $6500... and that is the hydro model, not the 2WD or gear drive. You can look all this up on the online build and price tool.
What do you define as a "Small Property Owner"; how many acre farm?
going to depend on the implements and tasks. Probably a min of 10-15\acres and up is going to be typical.
But it's not just the total acreage, it's the acreage that you're going to do something on. If you have 40 acres with 20 acres of woods and a 5 acre pond, then you're maybe looking at 15 acres that you're going to tractor on (assuming you're not going into the woods for logging or something).
@@MessicksEquip I actually live in Thailand and have 25 acres of land of which 3 acres are ponds and 1 acre of bamboo trees. No forest, just fruit trees around the edge and dividing the fields of the property. I just purchased a Kubota L5018 50hp tractor with bulldozer, plow, farrow and rotervator.
@@JCWren Good point.
A little oopsie at 10:30, showing a different tractor. R14 tires, telescoping lower links.
Good eye, thats actually from the MX6000 that we had sitting next to it.
You need to push a button to operate the rear pto parked? Even with the parking brake on and Transmission in neutral….? I find this an over engineered and in desirable safety feature. Really my only gripe with that machine I can find besides the load valve being mounted forward of the operator station still.
All these years of making tractors and kubota still stands among the rest as one of the only tractors to not follow standards set forth decades ago...the pto shaft is still, too close to the drawbar.
I know what you are referring to, and I've not once seen this be a problem. As long as your not using a $1500 CV drive shaft on your implement its a non-issue. Kubota follows ISO standards, not SAE. Concern only found on the internet.
@@MessicksEquipright but the ASAE standard has been around longer than ISO. Last time I looked at the L6060 it didn't have the length or height requirements that everyone but Kubota seems to follow.
So a commercial contractor with a tri-wing mower, Kubota is not the compact tractor for that use due to the CV joint.
@@pc5569 Not all 'CV joints that are an issue. I hooked a round baler up to an LX one time just for fun and it worked. When there is a conflict I believe its a CV so large that its way outside the HP class of the tractor. Ex, 150Hp CV joint on a 30Hp tractor maybe a problem, but your probably doing something you should not be doing to begin with. If anyone looked, I'd suspect you would find all the Korean tractors are the same as they also follow ISO also.
@@MessicksEquip I'm doing something I shouldn't if someone looked? A Bush Hog TD1100 is appropriate for the tractor. Don't be so arrogant that your insulting.
As far as Korean tractors, I can only speak to LS and they meet ASAE.
I have a L6060 cab and I can run our bush hog 1812 batwing behind it. Kubota sells a drop drawbar that gives the correct spacing and it makes it a non issue.
I need a grand L 2502 for $1999