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The lost art of plowing....I have a 2023 Kubota L2501DT, i use a 2 bottom 16inch plow (ford 101 high speed). i plowed 5 acres with it with no problem. there is a thing called center of draft for a plow. when you have it set right yes it pulls better. set plows level right and left when in the ferro. set top link to depth, with 16 inch plow it should be 7 to 8 inches. people say plows pull hard is because they don't know how to set them up... i live in Tennessee were the ground is like concrete! setting the plows are the trick.👍
I learned how to wrestle from an Olympic gold medalist in wrestling. His motto was. “ If you are solid on knowing your basics, you will find success in everything you do. Try trick stuff and a lack of understanding what you’re doing. That road to success is going to be rough”. Simply setting your plow the right way, makes life so much easier. Lol. Know the basics. To many people these days overthinking and over complicating the simple things. I love the, Just buy a bigger tractor ones.
Amen sir my grandpa used a 2 bottom plow with a Ferguson 30 on about a ten acre field patch my whole life! He was constantly bragging on how his plow was set up and that little Ferguson is still running just fine today because he kept his plow dialed in
Start in the middle and go both ways!!!! Wasting fuel running back to the other end!!! Then you plow your ends!!! Then you got a ditch all the way around!!! Plowed a whole lot of fields with a 52 redbelly!!!!! Level the plow and put new points on!!!!
I had to use a 52 Ford disc plow!!! You had to raise the right arm up and middle link had to be long so back would be level!!! If not it would pull the tractor sideways!! Once you got set 2nd gear 3/4 throttle and plow all day!!! Still got the tractor 5 generations heavy driven it!! Grandpa bought it new!!! Them was thee days life was so simple and we thought it was so hard LoL!!!!
A couple adjustments I didn’t hear you mention. When your wheel is in the furrow you need to adjust your right link arm height so the plow sits level side to side. When your plow is adjusted properly it should sit level front to back and side to side when in the furrow. Worn shares do make it hard for sure. Another issue I think you’ll fight is setting the plow on your cross shaft. Those rear tires are quite wide for plowing. To get a consistent nice finish you need to set your plow towards the right wheel until both bottoms are plowing the same width. But in doing that, if the plow tracks too far off the center line it will pull really hard. That plow should really only require about 35-40hp to pull when adjusted properly. I pull a 2x13in plow with my 37hp massey Ferguson 135 easily
Way back in the day farmers were pulling these plows with 8N ford tractors. They only had 23 hp. Im guessing running a plow is all skill and lots of practice. Looks great, cant wait to plow my field.
The soil is tooo dry. My tractor is mitsubishi mt205 and I plow double the depth. If you cant ajust it by eye find level surface lift left side of the tractor by 8 or 10 inch with a plank of wood then level the plow. Should be flat on the ground.
You don't have Draft Control. Only position control. Draft Control is available on the bigger models like my MX 6000 and the Grand L's. Draft Control will sense the "Draft" or the amount of "pull" of the implement and control the depth automatically.
Looks like a great place to look for artifacts. Alot of the plow tractors were 2 wheel drive and need more power and weight were a 4 wd take place of power and weight. And new tractor has alot more gears to choose from. I know your is a Hydro. It turned out nice. Well done.
Awesome. Ran a old Ford 8N with two bottom plow. I kind of cheated was only engaging one of the plows. Worked great. Tractor surprise me with the performance. Not bad for 70 plus year old tractor.
We had an old Ford 2WD when I was growing up. It was my Mom's tractor. Not sure the model. I know she would pop wheelies with it at the end of the row when she picked up whatever was behind it!
Always good to see a mix of old iron and new iron used in the field. I started out with a 3901....quickly realized I needed to go to the next level....MX.
Time to get a cheap 8n Ford and maybe an old Farmall AV. Probably cheaper then a hydrostatic rebuild. You have a nice tractor, but my money's on the AV and 8n. Plus you'll never lose money on those tractors. Good luck
Good stuff! We worked our 2001 25hp JD 4200 like a rented mule for years, including bottom plow. I only recently broke a lift arm after hitting a stump. Buy a good tractor and work it, that's what they are for! Thanks for sharing the video, it was a suggest video on my feed.
I broke a hitch off a different plow using it to clear stumps and roots for a food plot. Expensive day! Thanks for watching. We have a wood duck video in our catalog you might like.
i just found your channel, big respect what u all are doing there. hope to see u grow over time, fingers up, long live farmers. greetings from all the way from belgium flanders (farmers grandsson -> who is now a trucker instead).
I was able to plow with a 2-bottom Ferguson mould board plow 18" deep through hard pan soil with a 35hp tractor, but I do have coulters to slice the grass that was on top with no issues, like your video and now am a subscriber, I used a rototiller after a couple of weeks because it rained for a week after I plowed.
I’d like to see that. My 135 massey Ferguson pulls a 2 bottom Kverneland with 13 in bottoms at 6in deep. There’s no way I can imagine 18in deep with it and not stall the tractor
@@Lackieestatesfarmhat's what I'm saying as soon as I saw read that. I don't think you could even make one of those plows go 18" deep for one. Mouldboard plows are designed to cut at a depth that is slightly more than half their cut width. I can get them to go about 2" deeper than half their width and that's it. So a 14" Ferguson plow would max out at around 9" deep, maybe 10" in light soil at most and that's a stretch.
I can pull a 14 inch 3 bottom moldboard plow with a 1952 John Deere model A so no you do not need 25hp per moldboard. I believe it really depends on your soil type. Glad you proved your neighbor wrong though lol.
Might also depend on the torque the tractor's engine/transmission can put out to the wheels too....there's a lot of parasitic loss with a hydrostatic transaxle in these tractors, and lots of heat build up when doing heavy pulling like plowing. Those old John Deere tractors will plow like that all day long and just keep on going, they don't care one bit.
@@PineyGroveHomestead I guess I should’ve clarified that no absolutely not will a compact of that size pull a three bottom lol. My Deere 2032R will do a 2 bottom as well though. 😉
@@PineyGroveHomestead Are you all in ABR or NBRAN as fosters? My field is quite a bit bigger but it was super informative as I have a very similar tractor and it is needing some tlc. Now I just need more implements, the wife will be thrilled haha.
I don't know about those Kubota tractors, but my John Deere automatically raises and lowers the plow according to the soil conditions and load on the draft links. It's called draft control. Raising and lowering the plow by hand is called depth control. My tractor does not bog down because the draft control will raise the plow without me touching anything. I can also disable draft control with one lever that has several settings allowing me to choice the amount of draft control I want.
Deoes HST manage with plough ot it hardly manages? Better to have manual or HST for 5 hestares farm? I mean 1 tractor for all but if HST is not to overburdened with ploughing?@@PineyGroveHomestead
@@santiro5671 If you are plowing a lot of acreage often, a manual transmission would be better. If you are just doing 1 or 2 acres a year, a 40hp tractor with a hydro transmission will work just fine. And then you have hydro for all your loader work.
@@PineyGroveHomestead if it is 6 acres 2 times a year and the rest is loading, grassmoving, wood logging, tillering near house garden? Besides - with cabin or without? I have my farm just 3 minths in summer holiday and 1 a month in otger period of time. Poland
It's not the problem pulling the plow. Only issue with hydrostat is heat build from the hard stress causing premature. New transmission and fluids are completely different from the hydos
Kubota's are made to work! There's really no such thing as over working the tractor. It either pulls the implement or not! The hydro has an oil cooler to protect the transmission. The reason hydrostatic transmissions fail is tractor owners don't change the transmission oil and filters!
This is not true, almost all the log skidders on the market are being offered in hydrostatic transmissions. Capable of dragging 15-20,000 lbs a drag for 12hrs a day.
In 1950, my step father bought a then new Allis Chalmers Model CA. It had 22.9 HP at the drawbar (tested), 10-24 tires and easily pulled a two bottom 14 inch plow. I wss 14 at the time and learned to drive with that tractor. We had the plow a two row disk, a two row cultivator and a snow plow blade. Neighbor added a new 53 Ford Golden Jubilee to his two 48 Ford Four cylinders, That BIG six couldn't keep up with the Allis pulling double gang (that's four six foot drags ganged together) 12 foot drags. I could actually pull them in third gear, but that was too fast for a decent job. I guess most of you folks don't remember those days.
Looks like you got that plow dialed in good I pull a 1 bottom plow with my 20hp john deere lawn mower from 1988 so nobody can make fun of that big ol Kubota pulling 2 bottoms 😊
An 8n pulls those fine... they make those so light now they don't hook up with the ground like older smaller hp 8n 9n 2n .... in a pinch put dirt in bucket and engage front wheel assist for more traction
The one thing that I wanted to see is how shiny the shares got after plowing. My experience when I was plowing for my Grandfather was the firs couple of rounds it pulled really hard until the grease and any rust got shined off. After that it pulled a lot easier and turned the soil over better.
They cleaned up but they weren't like chrome shiny. I borrowed the plow and it hadn't plowed in 10 years and it probably won't plow for another 10! Thanks for watching.
I don't know much about moldboard plowing but I have heard old farmers say that shiny moldboards and good coulter wheels make a difference 🤷♂️ if you were able to change those factors, it would be interesting to hear if you thought they made a difference.
You'll be ok till you burn your hydro pump up! But your ok on a small area like that. I lost the bucket and power steering pump on my L48 with about 900 hrs a few weeks ago. $1880. It actually wore the splines out on the pump shaft and coupling.
I thought the nitrogen-fixing properties of clover was due to the nodules on the roots of the plant, so ploughing the green tops into the ground does nor really add any nitrogen, just a little green manure or humus.
You're not wrong. Here is the textbook answer that I would never be able to recite on camera! How does the nitrogen get over into the grass? The legume is able to use this nitrogen to grow, but the grass surrounding the clover plant does not have access to that nitrogen. The grass can get that nitrogen through an indirect process. As the legume grows, producing new leaves and roots, there is the constant death and replacement of roots, root hairs, and leaves. As these plant parts break down in the soil, the nitrogen in these parts is released into the soil, then becoming available to the grass for uptake and use in growth. The nitrogen transfer is due to legume plants dying and the nitrogen being recycled.
From my understanding its not alot of times the tractor can't pull the equipment. But using to small a tractor puts way more stress on the tractor. Likely cause more ware and tare on said tractor. I seen old guys using 8n and 135 massyes pulling stuff they should not. But replacement cluches and pto happened alot.
I have the same tractor and the same plow pulling in heavy clay and have no problem plowing. Gets easier as the moldboards get shinier. Coulters also make a big difference
I love how people that never owned a Hydrostatic tractor will tell you everything wrong with them and how they lose horsepower and cant plow and cant do anything. Its hilarious. I own a Grand L4060 Kubota and I can tell this thing can pull so hard the tires will dig trenches in 4 wheel drive before the machine will stall or run out of pulling power.
That's not 'conventional wisdom'; it's modern compact tractor wisdom. Back when small tractors were still built to farm, a 23HP Ford 8N tractor was rated for 2 bottom plow. So was the 18HP John Deere M, the 19HP Allis Chalmers B, the 18HP Farmall C, and the even 13HP Case VA series! A modern Compact is definitely a much better all-around general-purpose homesteader tractor, but if you're just looking for a straight-up agricultural tractor to plow, cultivate, and mow you may actually be better off with a 70 year old lump of American iron. As long as you can afford the fuel...
I like her shirt! Pray! I’d like to try my hand at plowing a field this way. Four years ago I plowed for a vegetable garden with an Allis Chalmers model G. I’d like to try this again in a larger field. I know how to plow straight furrows. I’m a greenskeeper at a golf course. I mow and stripe fairways. I’ve gotten pretty good at making straight stripes. ⛳️🚜
I have an L 3540, 35hp. she pulls a 3 bottom reversible plough to full depth in our very stony rock hard clay soil. The mould boards are really old and the points very rounded. I pull out massive rocks, often 2ft x1ft x1ft. the big difference is I don't have hydrostatic drive. A friend bought a 40hp John Deere with hydrostatic drive. It was no match for my Kubota. I would never swap to hydrostatic.
Great video. I use a L4060 Grand L Kubota to farm hay. It drives a Krone F130 4x4 (130 mm) round baler. The bales are very tight, weigh more than 4x5 bales I was buying. The tractor does power out when the baler is close to being full and going uphill, just need to downshift to low range, otherwise it bales quite well in medium range around 5 mph. Is it ideal? Certainly not but it keeps me in good quailty hay and now I have more control over my own destiny.
I have almost the same tractor my is gear instead of HST. Also I run r1's on it with weights in back and tires filled with water. Sometime next year I plan on upsizing to roughly 100hp unsure if ill stick with kubota once I do, not that I have any complaint's about my kubota ill keep it for sure but leaning towards massey or Case Anyway subbed and liked keep it comin brother.
Brother, ive punished the rear arms and third member on my little 30hp kubota over the last 20 years by using big equipment behind it. Just because itll pull it doesn't mean that it should. If i had it to do over, id take better care of my little tractor. On a good note, the little kubota wont die.
This is an L-series and it's rated for a 2-bottom plow in the owners manual. But agree that if you are plowing for a living, you need a gear drive tractor 45hp or more.
@@PineyGroveHomestead Yesser. Mine is an L3010. It's a 2000 model. I started pulling a 6ft bush hog behind it on day one. In 06 I bought a 70hp M series. They are the toughest tractors in the world. I have a 2014, 95 hp case, and the 70hp kubota has a stouter loader. All I do now is garden with my 3010, but I wish I woulda took it easy on it from the beginning.
No issues plowing with a Hydro unit. Gear would be best, but for an acre or less and allow the hyd oil to cool between passes and you are good. Rule of thumb is 1hp per in of moldboard. John Deere can pull as well… Plowing garden with John Deere #shorts ruclips.net/user/shorts5aoT-kpJ-Iw?feature=share
Your right link arm is to short. That tractor should pull better than that with that 2 bottom. The plow is just not quite set right. You would see a big difference. At the end you got it right. Suprised it works the tractor that hard. Ford 8n would pull that plow all day with ease and its only 20hp. Unfortunate you don't have real draft control. Looks like you only 3 pt. lift lever. Have a 24hp compact tractor and i use it more than any of the rest. Heck i moved 90 ton of dirt in one week with it, and yes 90 ton. Don't ever underestimate a small tractor when you understand what you can do. That tractor you have will do about anything you need it to do even if takes longer.
Pulled a 2 with a h Farmall twice a year, it's also the wheel in a furrow. If the tire won't fit it won't track right. I only like a hydro for close work, I'm gonna let out that clutch and ride.
I know it is hard to time it right and with the soil being sandy, but the ground seems too dry. More moisture would maybe have given you furrows that would have inverted better and without breaking up as much.
It's been a few months, but probably 2 hours...maybe 3. But I had to get off the tractor a lot to move the camera and I wasn't trying to be efficient with my plowing pattern.
I don't the brand name and I need to measure the mulboard to see how deep and wide it plows. My guess would be 14" mulboard and 16" row...but that's a guess.
Nobody said your compact Hydrostat can't plow. You can look at some garden tractors like the Ingersols, etc and see they can. The problem is durability. Let's see you plow 160 acres. Think you'd make it to the finish line?
I’ve always used yellow in lower light conditions and for shooting. They’ve always been too bright for me in bright sunlight. Geographically I’m similar to Miami’s climate.
The original definition of an acre was the area that one farmer could plow in a day, realistically just in the morning as the oxen had to be rested, fed and watered in the afternoon. Slightly subjective but fun factoid nonetheless.
Now this is 1 thing my old Kubota L2850 will out do your L3901 Being gear drive makes em pull so much easier. I mean seriously it pulls easy. Most other things that l3901 is probably way better. Mine runs an old 6ft bush hog that my buddies 40 horse kioti hydrostatic won’t hardly run it. So that hydrostatic transmission has to be killing some power.
I don't know where you get your information but it's not very good One horse can pull a plow And we used to have a 8 horse Bolin garden tractor it pulled a plow
why are you going to roto till after plowing ? run your disc over it before planting and be done. If you were going to roto till you should have skipped plowing , with the cost of fuel why do more work then needed. even plowing one direction was wasting time and money.
Hydrostatic will not last and the pumps are really expensive my 49 8n Ford and my 70 3610 Ford are still going good will that still run good in 60 years I highly dought it
Hydro has been around since the 70s when I was large scale ag farming so it's not new technology. I haven't heard of these Kubota hydro transmissions failing a lot.
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The lost art of plowing....I have a 2023 Kubota L2501DT, i use a 2 bottom 16inch plow (ford 101 high speed). i plowed 5 acres with it with no problem. there is a thing called center of draft for a plow. when you have it set right yes it pulls better. set plows level right and left when in the ferro. set top link to depth, with 16 inch plow it should be 7 to 8 inches. people say plows pull hard is because they don't know how to set them up... i live in Tennessee were the ground is like concrete! setting the plows are the trick.👍
That's a good workout for the L2501! Thanks for watching.
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Km, you are right. There is technique to everything in life. I'm like you with plowing, at a minimum 5 years is a good plow rotation on land.
Amen sir my grandpa used a 2 bottom plow with a Ferguson 30 on about a ten acre field patch my whole life! He was constantly bragging on how his plow was set up and that little Ferguson is still running just fine today because he kept his plow dialed in
Start in the middle and go both ways!!!! Wasting fuel running back to the other end!!! Then you plow your ends!!! Then you got a ditch all the way around!!! Plowed a whole lot of fields with a 52 redbelly!!!!! Level the plow and put new points on!!!!
I had to use a 52 Ford disc plow!!! You had to raise the right arm up and middle link had to be long so back would be level!!! If not it would pull the tractor sideways!! Once you got set 2nd gear 3/4 throttle and plow all day!!! Still got the tractor 5 generations heavy driven it!! Grandpa bought it new!!! Them was thee days life was so simple and we thought it was so hard LoL!!!!
A couple adjustments I didn’t hear you mention. When your wheel is in the furrow you need to adjust your right link arm height so the plow sits level side to side. When your plow is adjusted properly it should sit level front to back and side to side when in the furrow. Worn shares do make it hard for sure. Another issue I think you’ll fight is setting the plow on your cross shaft. Those rear tires are quite wide for plowing. To get a consistent nice finish you need to set your plow towards the right wheel until both bottoms are plowing the same width. But in doing that, if the plow tracks too far off the center line it will pull really hard. That plow should really only require about 35-40hp to pull when adjusted properly. I pull a 2x13in plow with my 37hp massey Ferguson 135 easily
Great tips. Plowing is an art for sure.
Way back in the day farmers were pulling these plows with 8N ford tractors. They only had 23 hp. Im guessing running a plow is all skill and lots of practice. Looks great, cant wait to plow my field.
Those were totally different tractors! I think weight and gearing were key to their pulling power.
@PineyGroveHomestead I think you're right. Those large rear tires certainly helped with that, too.
The soil is tooo dry. My tractor is mitsubishi mt205 and I plow double the depth. If you cant ajust it by eye find level surface lift left side of the tractor by 8 or 10 inch with a plank of wood then level the plow. Should be flat on the ground.
You don't have Draft Control. Only position control. Draft Control is available on the bigger models like my MX 6000 and the Grand L's. Draft Control will sense the "Draft" or the amount of "pull" of the implement and control the depth automatically.
Agree....the right words don't always come out when you're trying to get something done and record it for the channel. Thanks for watching.
Looks like a great place to look for artifacts. Alot of the plow tractors were 2 wheel drive and need more power and weight were a 4 wd take place of power and weight. And new tractor has alot more gears to choose from. I know your is a Hydro. It turned out nice. Well done.
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Horse and oxen plowing is coming around again, the cycle of life continues, beautiful worked ground is beautiful! 🇺🇸🙏🏿🇨🇦
You got that right!
Awesome. Ran a old Ford 8N with two bottom plow. I kind of cheated was only engaging one of the plows. Worked great. Tractor surprise me with the performance. Not bad for 70 plus year old tractor.
We had an old Ford 2WD when I was growing up. It was my Mom's tractor. Not sure the model. I know she would pop wheelies with it at the end of the row when she picked up whatever was behind it!
8N s are good tractors (flatter the ground the better)
Mine pulls a 2 bottom disk plough it works well even in the 110f heat
Always good to see a mix of old iron and new iron used in the field. I started out with a 3901....quickly realized I needed to go to the next level....MX.
Agree. I'd like a 4701. That would be a perfect tractor if they came with a cab.
Time to get a cheap 8n Ford and maybe an old Farmall AV. Probably cheaper then a hydrostatic rebuild. You have a nice tractor, but my money's on the AV and 8n. Plus you'll never lose money on those tractors. Good luck
Good stuff! We worked our 2001 25hp JD 4200 like a rented mule for years, including bottom plow. I only recently broke a lift arm after hitting a stump. Buy a good tractor and work it, that's what they are for! Thanks for sharing the video, it was a suggest video on my feed.
I broke a hitch off a different plow using it to clear stumps and roots for a food plot. Expensive day! Thanks for watching. We have a wood duck video in our catalog you might like.
@@PineyGroveHomestead I will check it out!
i just found your channel, big respect what u all are doing there. hope to see u grow over time, fingers up, long live farmers. greetings from all the way from belgium flanders (farmers grandsson -> who is now a trucker instead).
Welcome! Trying to return to the simpler life!
Kubota Strong! Nice work, Man!
Thanks Lucas. I want to see that BX plow now!
I was able to plow with a 2-bottom Ferguson mould board plow 18" deep through hard pan soil with a 35hp tractor, but I do have coulters to slice the grass that was on top with no issues, like your video and now am a subscriber, I used a rototiller after a couple of weeks because it rained for a week after I plowed.
Thanks for watching. If our tractor wasn't hydro, it would likely pull better. But we LOVE our hydro!
I’d like to see that. My 135 massey Ferguson pulls a 2 bottom Kverneland with 13 in bottoms at 6in deep. There’s no way I can imagine 18in deep with it and not stall the tractor
@@Lackieestatesfarmhat's what I'm saying as soon as I saw read that. I don't think you could even make one of those plows go 18" deep for one. Mouldboard plows are designed to cut at a depth that is slightly more than half their cut width. I can get them to go about 2" deeper than half their width and that's it. So a 14" Ferguson plow would max out at around 9" deep, maybe 10" in light soil at most and that's a stretch.
No way you are plowing 18” deep pulling 2 plows with a 35 hp tractor. You could never get enough traction
I can pull a 14 inch 3 bottom moldboard plow with a 1952 John Deere model A so no you do not need 25hp per moldboard. I believe it really depends on your soil type. Glad you proved your neighbor wrong though lol.
Might also depend on the torque the tractor's engine/transmission can put out to the wheels too....there's a lot of parasitic loss with a hydrostatic transaxle in these tractors, and lots of heat build up when doing heavy pulling like plowing.
Those old John Deere tractors will plow like that all day long and just keep on going, they don't care one bit.
No way our tractor could pull 3 bottoms! Thanks for watching.
@@PineyGroveHomestead I guess I should’ve clarified that no absolutely not will a compact of that size pull a three bottom lol. My Deere 2032R will do a 2 bottom as well though. 😉
I also Have a Brit who is my run around companion on the property haha, after watching this it makes me want to pick up a plow to flip my back field.
She was an owner surrender because they couldn't handle her....she needs to run! Sometimes it's just fun to plow. Thanks for watching.
@@PineyGroveHomestead Are you all in ABR or NBRAN as fosters? My field is quite a bit bigger but it was super informative as I have a very similar tractor and it is needing some tlc. Now I just need more implements, the wife will be thrilled haha.
I don't know about those Kubota tractors, but my John Deere automatically raises and lowers the plow according to the soil conditions and load on the draft links. It's called draft control. Raising and lowering the plow by hand is called depth control. My tractor does not bog down because the draft control will raise the plow without me touching anything. I can also disable draft control with one lever that has several settings allowing me to choice the amount of draft control I want.
This tractor doesn't have draft control. Thanks for watching.
Hard to beat a Kubota!
They are tough machines! Thanks for watching.
Deoes HST manage with plough ot it hardly manages? Better to have manual or HST for 5 hestares farm? I mean 1 tractor for all but if HST is not to overburdened with ploughing?@@PineyGroveHomestead
@@santiro5671 If you are plowing a lot of acreage often, a manual transmission would be better. If you are just doing 1 or 2 acres a year, a 40hp tractor with a hydro transmission will work just fine. And then you have hydro for all your loader work.
@@PineyGroveHomestead if it is 6 acres 2 times a year and the rest is loading, grassmoving, wood logging, tillering near house garden?
Besides - with cabin or without? I have my farm just 3 minths in summer holiday and 1 a month in otger period of time. Poland
It's not the problem pulling the plow. Only issue with hydrostat is heat build from the hard stress causing premature. New transmission and fluids are completely different from the hydos
Kubota's are made to work! There's really no such thing as over working the tractor. It either pulls the implement or not! The hydro has an oil cooler to protect the transmission. The reason hydrostatic transmissions fail is tractor owners don't change the transmission oil and filters!
This is not true, almost all the log skidders on the market are being offered in hydrostatic transmissions. Capable of dragging 15-20,000 lbs a drag for 12hrs a day.
In 1950, my step father bought a then new Allis Chalmers Model CA. It had 22.9 HP at the drawbar (tested), 10-24 tires and easily pulled a two bottom 14 inch plow. I wss 14 at the time and learned to drive with that tractor. We had the plow a two row disk, a two row cultivator and a snow plow blade. Neighbor added a new 53 Ford Golden Jubilee to his two 48 Ford Four cylinders, That BIG six couldn't keep up with the Allis pulling double gang (that's four six foot drags ganged together) 12 foot drags. I could actually pull them in third gear, but that was too fast for a decent job. I guess most of you folks don't remember those days.
I got a subsoiler. They don’t cost a lot but they do allow better drainage and root depths.
We have one as well and will be demonstrating it soon. Thanks for watching.
Looks like you got that plow dialed in good I pull a 1 bottom plow with my 20hp john deere lawn mower from 1988 so nobody can make fun of that big ol Kubota pulling 2 bottoms 😊
That would be cool to watch!
@@PineyGroveHomestead I'll make a video this fall after we get some wheat harvested
An 8n pulls those fine... they make those so light now they don't hook up with the ground like older smaller hp 8n 9n 2n .... in a pinch put dirt in bucket and engage front wheel assist for more traction
Didn't lose traction....engine was laboring in the deeper drier clay areas but overall, the L3901 handled it nicely.
The one thing that I wanted to see is how shiny the shares got after plowing. My experience when I was plowing for my Grandfather was the firs couple of rounds it pulled really hard until the grease and any rust got shined off. After that it pulled a lot easier and turned the soil over better.
They cleaned up but they weren't like chrome shiny. I borrowed the plow and it hadn't plowed in 10 years and it probably won't plow for another 10! Thanks for watching.
What happened to your coulters?
@@russwilkins1622coulters make a HUGE difference
I don't know much about moldboard plowing but I have heard old farmers say that shiny moldboards and good coulter wheels make a difference 🤷♂️ if you were able to change those factors, it would be interesting to hear if you thought they made a difference.
They didn't get real shiny after an acre, but yes, that reduces friction. Thanks for watching.
You'll be ok till you burn your hydro pump up! But your ok on a small area like that. I lost the bucket and power steering pump on my L48 with about 900 hrs a few weeks ago. $1880. It actually wore the splines out on the pump shaft and coupling.
I've done the same plowing with a L2800 hydro. I doubt we will ever plow this field again, but it was fun to do it once. Thanks for watching!
We always started in the middle with a back furrow, dead furrow on the sides of the field.
Many ways to do it. I had lots of time and wasn't trying to be super efficient.
I thought the nitrogen-fixing properties of clover was due to the nodules on the roots of the plant, so ploughing the green tops into the ground does nor really add any nitrogen, just a little green manure or humus.
You're not wrong. Here is the textbook answer that I would never be able to recite on camera!
How does the nitrogen get over into the grass? The legume is able to use this nitrogen to grow, but the grass surrounding the clover plant does not have access to that nitrogen. The grass can get that nitrogen through an indirect process. As the legume grows, producing new leaves and roots, there is the constant death and replacement of roots, root hairs, and leaves. As these plant parts break down in the soil, the nitrogen in these parts is released into the soil, then becoming available to the grass for uptake and use in growth. The nitrogen transfer is due to legume plants dying and the nitrogen being recycled.
From my understanding its not alot of times the tractor can't pull the equipment.
But using to small a tractor puts way more stress on the tractor. Likely cause more ware and tare on said tractor.
I seen old guys using 8n and 135 massyes pulling stuff they should not.
But replacement cluches and pto happened alot.
Agree. You don't want to plow day in and day out with this size machine!
I have the same tractor and the same plow pulling in heavy clay and have no problem plowing. Gets easier as the moldboards get shinier. Coulters also make a big difference
Thanks for watching.
That flat thing attached to the back of your cap works great to keep the sun out of your eyes if you'll flip it around like normal people wear it.
It shades your face for the camera.
@@PineyGroveHomestead Yeah...that too!!
I love how people that never owned a Hydrostatic tractor will tell you everything wrong with them and how they lose horsepower and cant plow and cant do anything. Its hilarious. I own a Grand L4060 Kubota and I can tell this thing can pull so hard the tires will dig trenches in 4 wheel drive before the machine will stall or run out of pulling power.
Hydro does lose some hp through the transmission, but they are tough proven transmissions that you can work hard!
My 30 HP Ford jubilee pulls my 2 bottom plow great in second low in hard dirt withs rocks
That's not 'conventional wisdom'; it's modern compact tractor wisdom. Back when small tractors were still built to farm, a 23HP Ford 8N tractor was rated for 2 bottom plow. So was the 18HP John Deere M, the 19HP Allis Chalmers B, the 18HP Farmall C, and the even 13HP Case VA series!
A modern Compact is definitely a much better all-around general-purpose homesteader tractor, but if you're just looking for a straight-up agricultural tractor to plow, cultivate, and mow you may actually be better off with a 70 year old lump of American iron. As long as you can afford the fuel...
They are definitely built different now. Thanks for watching.
I like her shirt! Pray! I’d like to try my hand at plowing a field this way. Four years ago I plowed for a vegetable garden with an Allis Chalmers model G. I’d like to try this again in a larger field. I know how to plow straight furrows. I’m a greenskeeper at a golf course. I mow and stripe fairways. I’ve gotten pretty good at making straight stripes. ⛳️🚜
She prays for me a lot! I didn't show it, but my furrows got crooked, so I did some half length furrows to straighten it out! Thanks for watching!
Yes I do not always get straight stripes. And I cut into them in an effort to get the next one straight. ⛳️😊
The 8n Fords pulled 2 bottom plows with 22 HP.
they sure did!
That sure looks a lot bigger that one acre.
Looks great. Thanks for the vid.
Thanks for watching!
Do you have ballast in your tires?
I have an L 3540, 35hp. she pulls a 3 bottom reversible plough to full depth in our very stony rock hard clay soil. The mould boards are really old and the points very rounded. I pull out massive rocks, often 2ft x1ft x1ft. the big difference is I don't have hydrostatic drive. A friend bought a 40hp John Deere with hydrostatic drive. It was no match for my Kubota. I would never swap to hydrostatic.
L3540 is the Grand L with more weight and different gearing. Much more tractor than we have. Thanks for watching!
I know it's a year later, but I'm curious what you ended up planting in this?
Soybeans last year. ICPs this year. Here's a video of the soybeans: ruclips.net/video/EkQjTMtfs5s/видео.html
I have that same tractor. Unfortunately, it's not even 39hp. I think it's 37 (2 hp, watch out! Lol) but it only has 30-32 to the wheels.
That hydro robs the power but it sure is nice to operate! Thanks for watching.
@@PineyGroveHomestead I just thought about it. I believe it's 30-32 hp at the pto. So I might be wrong. I'll have to look again.
Great video. I use a L4060 Grand L Kubota to farm hay. It drives a Krone F130 4x4 (130 mm) round baler. The bales are very tight, weigh more than 4x5 bales I was buying. The tractor does power out when the baler is close to being full and going uphill, just need to downshift to low range, otherwise it bales quite well in medium range around 5 mph. Is it ideal? Certainly not but it keeps me in good quailty hay and now I have more control over my own destiny.
The L4060 is a nice machine. We bay with this trailer in an upcoming video. Thanks for watching!
I have almost the same tractor my is gear instead of HST. Also I run r1's on it with weights in back and tires filled with water. Sometime next year I plan on upsizing to roughly 100hp unsure if ill stick with kubota once I do, not that I have any complaint's about my kubota ill keep it for sure but leaning towards massey or Case Anyway subbed and liked keep it comin brother.
I bet that geared is much quieter than our HST! Thanks for watching.
Great vid. What RPM are you running your hydro at while plowing?
WOT which is around 3000 rpm or whatever the gauge says for 540 rpm. It doesn't rev much past that.
Brother, ive punished the rear arms and third member on my little 30hp kubota over the last 20 years by using big equipment behind it. Just because itll pull it doesn't mean that it should. If i had it to do over, id take better care of my little tractor. On a good note, the little kubota wont die.
This is an L-series and it's rated for a 2-bottom plow in the owners manual. But agree that if you are plowing for a living, you need a gear drive tractor 45hp or more.
@@PineyGroveHomestead Yesser. Mine is an L3010. It's a 2000 model. I started pulling a 6ft bush hog behind it on day one. In 06 I bought a 70hp M series. They are the toughest tractors in the world. I have a 2014, 95 hp case, and the 70hp kubota has a stouter loader. All I do now is garden with my 3010, but I wish I woulda took it easy on it from the beginning.
No issues plowing with a Hydro unit. Gear would be best, but for an acre or less and allow the hyd oil to cool between passes and you are good. Rule of thumb is 1hp per in of moldboard. John Deere can pull as well…
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Your right link arm is to short. That tractor should pull better than that with that 2 bottom. The plow is just not quite set right. You would see a big difference. At the end you got it right. Suprised it works the tractor that hard. Ford 8n would pull that plow all day with ease and its only 20hp. Unfortunate you don't have real draft control. Looks like you only 3 pt. lift lever.
Have a 24hp compact tractor and i use it more than any of the rest. Heck i moved 90 ton of dirt in one week with it, and yes 90 ton. Don't ever underestimate a small tractor when you understand what you can do. That tractor you have will do about anything you need it to do even if takes longer.
We get a lot done with that tractor! Thanks for watching.
Pulled a 2 with a h Farmall twice a year, it's also the wheel in a furrow. If the tire won't fit it won't track right. I only like a hydro for close work, I'm gonna let out that clutch and ride.
You split the width and plow both ways.
Love hydro....but we don't plow much. Thanks for watching.
Use the tilt on the lift arms to level the plow.
Is that the hydrostatic transmission wining? I’m new to tractors.
Yes, it's normal. Kubota hydros are pretty loud, but they are tough!
You can adjust your right lift arm to keep the plow level.
Agree. It could have been more fine tuned.
I dont remember you saying for sure, did you use 4X4?
Yes, it was in 4x4. It would have struggled if not. Thanks for watching.
I know it is hard to time it right and with the soil being sandy, but the ground seems too dry. More moisture would maybe have given you furrows that would have inverted better and without breaking up as much.
That's a good observation. It's hard for us to do things with perfect timing with our schedule. Thanks for watching.
@@PineyGroveHomestead I stay in Scotland so we do get more rain. Hahaha
for the 3 bottom, what hp is recommended?
I'd say 45-50hp but it's also dependent on your ground. We used to pull a 4 bottom with a Ford 70hp tractor.
U should see what i can do with my dads tractor then. little clutch kick in the clay spots never hurt anyone
The magic number is 10 hp per bottom. That tractor should pull a 3 bottom plow with no issues.
depends on the soil and the width of your moldboards. A 3-12 maybe. A 3-16 I kinda doubt.
How long would you say it took to plow the acre?
It's been a few months, but probably 2 hours...maybe 3. But I had to get off the tractor a lot to move the camera and I wasn't trying to be efficient with my plowing pattern.
Great intel. Thanks!
Can you pull a 1 row bottom plow with a 25.5 tractor.?
I would say in most situations, it should be able to handle 1 bottom.
Thanks for video and info.
thanks for watching
Informative and in my future I am sure.
Plowing is fun!
I love her shirt
I have a Kubota LX 3560. What type of plow are you using?
I don't the brand name and I need to measure the mulboard to see how deep and wide it plows. My guess would be 14" mulboard and 16" row...but that's a guess.
Nobody said your compact Hydrostat can't plow. You can look at some garden tractors like the Ingersols, etc and see they can. The problem is durability. Let's see you plow 160 acres. Think you'd make it to the finish line?
That's a question for Kubota since a 2-bottom plow is listed as an implement this tractor can pull.
The yellow glasses would drive me crazy
Florida sun is brutal....it's either that or blacked out glasses then you can't see my eyes.
I’ve always used yellow in lower light conditions and for shooting. They’ve always been too bright for me in bright sunlight. Geographically I’m similar to Miami’s climate.
How long did it take you to plow that acre?
Hard to say with all the camera movements but maybe an hour if you just count the plowing time and not all the other wasted movements!
Looks good
Thank you. We've been wanting to turn this field for awhile. Stay tuned for the planting!
No coulters on the plow = ragged edge. I haven't seen a modern plow without coulters.
I pull a two bottom 16 JD plow with my 770 jd compact tractor. Its all it wants in hard land but it'll pull it
Probably sounds great too when it's pulling! Thanks for watching.
Who makes a good 1 bottom plow now days have a 30 hp hydro drive , Kubota, anyone have any recommendations or reviews
Find a cheap 2 bottom on Facebook Marketplace and cut one of the bottoms off!
Who said 25 HP? It's always been 20 hp for a trailing plow and 16 hp for a three point hitch. This depends on soil type of course.
it does depend
The original definition of an acre was the area that one farmer could plow in a day, realistically just in the morning as the oxen had to be rested, fed and watered in the afternoon. Slightly subjective but fun factoid nonetheless.
That is a fun fact. Thanks for watching.
If you start dead center you can plow in a circle
We didn't want the furrow there, but understand that is more efficient.
Try doing 6 acres with an L3400 and a 2 bottom. 😅
Sounds like fun!
Plowed a lot of fields with a super c ,ya ya you don't need 25notes think supers were like 15
Good info. Thanks.
i dont think you know enough about ploughing to try and teach about it
The field got plowed and it's growing good. Thanks for watching.
Should have squared the field to save time and fuel
Now this is 1 thing my old Kubota L2850 will out do your L3901 Being gear drive makes em pull so much easier. I mean seriously it pulls easy. Most other things that l3901 is probably way better. Mine runs an old 6ft bush hog that my buddies 40 horse kioti hydrostatic won’t hardly run it. So that hydrostatic transmission has to be killing some power.
Gear driven beats hydro for pulling for sure! And they are quieter too!
Cant believe you just plow in one direction. Thats tKing twice as long
a coulter addded would have helped
We pre-mowed so there wasn't a lot of trash to cut. Coulters increase drag....might have been more than she wanted!
You need coulters
YOU need Gear drive... everyone needs gear drive..4 times the pulling power at HST and you can run your rpms down...
No thanks....hate shifting!
It's not that you can't pull it it's that your going to burn the hydro out of it if you work it like that a lot
Kubota lists a 2 bottom plow in the owners manual.
I don't know where you get your information but it's not very good One horse can pull a plow And we used to have a 8 horse Bolin garden tractor it pulled a plow
Right? 25 horses would be tough to hook to one plow--imagine the harness. Thanks for watching!
Now you need several loads for horse sh>t to spread over it and till it under. Your beans wil do amazing.
These beans are next level....updates soon!
Not a very fuel efficient method.
You are not wrong, but I wasn't trying to save fuel.
Your ground looks dry, try plowing after it rains
Tractor would just spin.
it will plow a garden but that's it. if HST was worth a shit, they would use it in large AG tractors but they don't. that says it all.
Not true. Large ag tractors do have HST as do combines.
You have no moisture in the ground. Plows work better when there is moisture in the ground
thanks for watching
:05 No, that isn't correct at all. How deep are you plowing? 1" or two?
The video shows the whole plowing process. Thanks for watching.
“Hydrolic transmission”
Why do you need to plow that deep 4in is all need you not plant that deep
To bury the organic matter so it decomposes and enriches the soil. Also helps with water retention in the long run.
why are you going to roto till after plowing ? run your disc over it before planting and be done. If you were going to roto till you should have skipped plowing , with the cost of fuel why do more work then needed. even plowing one direction was wasting time and money.
25hp per bottom?
Your number is too high
15-25 per bottom. The biggest variable is soil composition. Thanks for watching.
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Thanks for watching
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@@PineyGroveHomestead that's how we did it back in my day! 😂
HE,S NOT VERY DEEP AT ALL.
Please reconsider ploughing it is now no longer a good practise
That's not true. Sometimes it's needed.
Hydrostatic will not last and the pumps are really expensive my 49 8n Ford and my 70 3610 Ford are still going good will that still run good in 60 years I highly dought it
Hydro has been around since the 70s when I was large scale ag farming so it's not new technology. I haven't heard of these Kubota hydro transmissions failing a lot.