Real History of Karachi in Conversation with Anis sheikh - Part 1 | Podcast #55
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- Опубликовано: 13 июл 2024
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References
Kurrachee Present-Past : Future By Alexender F. Baillie
Karachi Through a Hundred Years By Herbert Feldman
An Introduction of Karachi By MANECK B. PITHAWALLA
Province of Sindh Volume 1 Karachi District by J W Smith
Gazitor Province of Sindh by A. W. HUGHES
0:00 - Intro.
1:59 - How are you doing?
2:50 - Ancient history of Karachi
11:29 - Documented history on Karachi.
18:34 - Was Karachi Once Called Daebal?
20:38 - Who were the natives of Karachi.
22:55 - Power Players of Karachi.
31:16 - The Father of Karachi
37:55 - How the British Entered India
43:45 - British Footprints in Karachi's History
47:30 - The History of Karachi Written by Naumal
1:00:10 - Why the British Feared Karachi's Hot Climate
کلمتی کراچی کے حقیقی اور قدیم باشندے ہیں ❤
Please invite any Zoroastrian for a podcast so that we may know about them and their religion and as they were the people who established Karachi
Karachi was inhabited by mass migration of Kulachi Baloch tribes around 1723-1725. The year mentioned was after the battle of Khan of Qalat with Kulachi tribes of Makran, which forced Kulachi's to migrate to Debal(Karachi today). Baloch's lacked education and led others to write whatever history others prefered.
Kulachi, Kalmati, Darzadag, Talpur and Gabol are Baloch tribes whereas Jokio is a Sindhi tribe who first inhabited Karachi. Jokhio's, Kalmati's and notably the Gabol's were main landlords of Karachi. These people acquired fishing and cultivation as their prime livelihood.
Parsi's are the one who thrived business in this town and built it into a metropolis later in late 80s.
Karachi boasted attraction within a little span from its strategic location and beautiful infrastructures which caught eyes of everyone.
The rest is history, period.
Karachi, Sindh had major hindu population lekin jaise inhone history baatayi usmein toh hindu ke ek hi family ko discuss kiya hain. Itna bhi whitewash Nahin karna chayiye.. 😢😢😢
Bro Hindu came later in karachi when Karachi become a big business hub
@@tiktoklover607 bete ji indusriver civilization mai hindu tha ,, kuch v
@@tiktoklover607Sindhi Hindus made Karachi the business hub
The father and son are paid actors. They serve for money not for honesty. Their ancestors were paid to propogandize hate and sow division by the brits. They are just proving their blood loyalty. Do note they call Abdullah Shah Ghazi as a member of M. Bin Qasim's army but he was actually killed by M. Bin Qasim's army because he belonged to a group the Arab Khalafat called 'Shia'....
Dont be surprised a lot of so called scholars are proving the loyalty in their blood for gora saab in Pakistan.
I salute u sir ,for such pricious and real history.I respect u for ur contribution and dedication for real facts about karachi and grivances.I think u r more than 1000 time better than the politicians and leaders.You r the real and actual leader and guide of Karachi and mahajir.May Allah help u for more efforts in this regard.
Q😊
48:35 what are you talking 😂 read history about Maratha Empire sir 😅
Rajupts of Gujrat and Rajasthan hated marathas ...marathas use to loot their cities and cavalries
43:08 srirangapattnam sea port hai? If pakistani experts have this level of history and geography knowledge, imagine the knowledge of average pakistani..
Bhai I agree. He also mentioned a saint whose tomb is in Karachi, as someone who was part of M. Bin Qasim's invasion army...while according to Chachnama and Farishta of Deccan, this saint was killed by M bin Qasim for being a grandson of Ali...so....
I asked him for his reference but he gives no response but in the video both father and son claim being authentic reference guys!
Such shame that today anyone can self proclaim any title for themselves and be so shameless even after failing to prove their claim.
My ancestors came from Decan and their children immediately faced racism from local muslim population of new born Pakistan yet they foolishly stayed and ensured that their generations to come will suffer in the name of a false ideology made to serve UK but propangandized as Islam.
while he is saying that when 1830s Britishers has air force jets for attack on Karachi ... ab khud hi andaza laga loo 😂.. while most history he said is true
@@Zubair-Khan1903 is when first flying plane was made , and Britishers had airforce in 1830s 🤣🤣😭
Imagine the rest of history he's telling. This man is such a comedian 😂
46:50 he said sindh k loog jangjo nahin tha y statement totally wrong h q k Sindhiyon ne Britishers k against buhat sari wars larin for example "Battle of Miani" , "Battle of Hyderabad 1843" , or bhi buhat baar Sindhyion ne britishers k against laraiyaan lar raha tha with only swords jab ke britishers guns or tanks use kraha tha
Karachi bureau report 1843 m mentioned h k Britishers ne khud likha k Sindh k loog bhaduri k sath lara
Britishers ne sindh ko the land of lions ka title diya tha or y records ajj bhi mojod hain british k old news letters or news papers m
or sindh k individuals ne bhi britishes k against bhgawat qaim rakhi for example suryah badshah, roplo kolhi or bhi lakhon sindhiyon ne mazamat ki
JEAY SINDH
Battle of miani was fought between british and talpur baloch ruler of sindh
@@meerbilalrind2562 In the Talpur army 90% of soldiers were local Sindhis like junejo Rajputs and khokars the talpur was ruling but they did not have the proper guns so local sindhi people fought with their swords
Well done Daniyal bahi I am fan of your father , he is the valuable person in karachi for history purpose.
Lol cholas on their mnavy captured Indonesia Malaysia myanamar Phillipines Cambodia abba jan kuch bhi phel rhe h😂😂😂😂
Don't blame him unki padhai pakistan main huwi hai bus yahi kafi hai, unke history books hi galat hai😂😂😂
Knowledge courtesy to "Pakistan Studies" 😔
48:34 tell your abba jan to stop his studies cuz he seems to lack some basic knowledge regarding the naval fleet of Chhatrapati Shivaji, and even before that of Chola dynasty in the south of India.
Don't be harsh on him. Not his fault. Founders of Pakistan have to be blamed for the curriculum. At least he has tried his best to learn history despite having less sources. Uncle's schooling time was during Zia's days it seems. You will be heard if you gently state facts.
Ahoms had been one of the strong navy army who's defeated Mughals 18 times.
@@amansatyarthi7764 toh youtube pr apni udwane ki kya zaroorat hai??
Matlab kuch bhi shivaj ki naval fleet, first answer this question that why shivj dacoit army used to cross narmada only in the dry season and not all year long if he had a navy, also it is a fact that the British empire had the most advanced and biggest navy in the world that time bigger than the US Navy by ratio. you people are like frog in the well.
VERY INFORMATIVE DANIYAL BHAI ♥
Father Son ki best jodi ....
Love from India, Delhi....
Delhi ♥️
Daniyal Bhai Bilal musharraf son of president general pervaiz musharraf se interview lein vo aj kal London mein rahty ha@@DaniyalSheikh
Bhai tum apni hindu ancestry chupane k liye history ko kyun galat bayan krte ho??? Read about cholas , Marathas,..navy k baare mai pta chl jayega...
Very informative 👍 wants more sessions
Very Informative
I have read naumal,s memoirs, and your dad knowingly did not tell the atrocities that were committed by talpurs against hindus. If you abduct, kill ppl, destroy temples, even forced them in to circumcisions, mounted on donkeys and were told to stand aside if muslims pass the roads almost like a third grade human and you say why he revolted against talpurs.
This is a big controversy.
@@DaniyalSheikh could be but then he shouldn't have only told one side of the story and chose a side during the controversy
His opinions are mostly one-sided, coz that's what fits their narrative...no surprise
@@DaniyalSheikh truth always becomes controversial for rape jihad ki najayaz paidaish ganduudin namazi aashiq gay rasool Muslims . What's not controversial is 6 saala totally fuckable niece hazrat Ayesha rapist nabi flying on donkey to Allah tallah( who btw has no shape so don't know who he was going to meet 😂😂😂)
It’s evident. When host said a hindu as founding father of karachi but the guest politely dis regarded as it may or may not be. There we can find their agenda. No disrespect to your father sir but history is not what only muslims did. Pakistan has 1300 years of muslim history before that (as your father said everything is not written) it had hindu/budhist history
7:16
He is talking about ancient history and same time he is talking about Mohammad kasim 😅😅
Very uneducated approach towards history
Sindh ki Mohon Jodaro History ko Pakistan k buddho ne kuch Bada U-Turn De diya hai.. 😅😅😅
Finally some much needed knowledge about Karachi, uncle is a fountain of knowledge.
Great video. Hope more parts come. Blessings
51:00
Sorry but sir ki history knowledge nursery level ki h vo bhi 20% sir ko koi abhijit chavla ya trs podcast ke bare me btaye
History repeating itself before we kalmati made this karachi today there is a son of kalmati became deputy mayor karachi ❤
Proud to be kalmati baloch ❤✌
Danial janiii kabhee (Sardar shah) (Ayaz latif palejo) (Shafi Muhammad jaamot) (Rukhman gul palariii...KU's professor)
(Jokiyo family of Gadab sy koi Historian) aur kae sare Historian ju karachi ya dusre Divisions sy taluk rakhty hun unko bhee bulao yar .
Very nice programme
daniyal bhai do pod cast only on altaf hussain and history of mqm and 90 detailed........ plz
Bhai Jai vardhan singh youtube l h Jnu ka bnda use le aaa podcast pe dhng se bta dega sare ancient history kyu kuch bhi bol rhe ho persian ne likhi h history Sanskrit is older than persian and alexender fought with Porus whose real name was purshottam and his banner was lord krishna recorded by greeks you can verify
Invite jaivardhan singh he is not right wing left wing he js trained historian phd candidate
کراچی میں قدیم مندر ،گرجا،گودوارے۔۔۔اور پارسیوں بہائیوں کی عبادت گاہیں تو ملتی ہیں۔۔۔قدیم مزار بھی ملتے ہیں مگر مساجد نہیں ملتیں۔۔۔
A very reductionist take on Karachi's history, especially the pre-Talpur period. Also, while the books mentioned are important, they should be a starting point when one's digging deeper into Karachi's (and overall, Sindh) history.
Invite Sindhi nationalist Abdul Qadir Magsi and Ayaz Latif Palejo in your show
KARACHI WAS CALLED KALACHI LADY FISHER MAN COMUNITY. MODREN KALACHI WAS BUILT BY ONE PARSI . AALTRI MAIDAN STREET THE MODREN KARACHI WAS BUILD BY SHAHANI BROTHER OF PREM KISHINCHAND SHAHANI OF PPP HIS GRAND SON IS STILL AT KARACHI . I WAS LIVING AT AALTRI MAIDAN ST. NO. 2
Bro @18:15 made me so excited to find out there are people who understand the value an academic reference for academic works.
I'd like to request the reference for Abdullah Shah Ghazi's participation in M. bin Qasim's army. Thanks in advance.
please respond ....
Even today we can find some artefacts of ancient origin near Mach city any excavations in there will reveal some city buried in there
Your make excellent videos
Daniyal bhai I am First ❤
Singapatram is not sea port but inland Mysore😊
You can not correct a paid actor, he has to run the script.
Very very informative also waiting for next part..
But a question rises ki Kiya us door mai air force thi kindly sai say gauid Karen also big fan of your father also stay blessed ❤
Interesting. You should have made a section on the Urdu speaking migrants who migrated to Karachi during partition and the different regions they migrated from.
potassium nitrate was main ingredient of black gunpowder used at that time in cannos and guns
Apne family members ko na laayein shows pe log unhe bhi troll karenge
Henry Pottinger, First Governor of Hong Kong in 17th century. Visited frequently to Balochistan & Sindh.
Ap k podcast next level k hotay hain agar possible ho tau kindly plz hazim banghwar ko bhi bulaye
Very informative video
Love from india mumbai
*Pls Invite Qaiser Ahmad Raja*
Daniyal Bhai bohot Mubarak ho aapko Dubai ka Golden Visa mila hai 💐💐💐
THERE IS ONE BOOK IN SINDHI ON KARACHI MAY BE AVAILBLE AT SINDHOLOGY JAMSHORO
With due repect
ملاح عرب نئی ہے
تالپور دور میں 3 نئی 4 خاندان کی حکومت تھی جس کو سندھی میں (چو یاری) کہا جاتا تھا جس میں حیدرآباد ٹنڈو محمّد خان میرپورخاص اور خیرپور شامل تھے . Shahdadani Talpurs hyderabad
. Sohrabani Talpurs of Khairpur
. . Manikani Talpurs of Mirpur Khas Shahwani Talpurs of Tando Muhammad Khan
Good
Nice insan
nice
Mohommad bin qasim 'aaye nhi the' 'aaya tha'
Don't give him respect
Thank your father 🙏
Kya Tera father storiya bana bana ke fekta hai😂😂 matlab kidhar konsi book me lukha hai quote kare jara
Arye hyana kai yetey, hyanchi shikshan kashat ani kuthe zaley tech purese aahe 🤣🤣 ola hu uber
*Pls invite Qaiser Ahmad Raja*
❤ Karachi hmesha se balochistan ka raha tha.. q k puri pak ki coastal area Kalmati baloch tribe k under me raha hai... Khan of kalat state k under me tha...
One Doubt
10,000 sall phla insan ne agriculture sikha ....aur Respect hazarat sir 30,000 sall phla ship mai Karachi mai ship se kaise aa gaye ...
This is like completely ignoring science
muhammad bin kasin thatta ma aya tha
In old record available at Sindh archives library beyond governor house Karachl has been spelled as CURRACHI.
WADIA IS ALSO PARSI ONE OF WADIA GRAND SON OF JINHA IS AT MUMBAI HE IS PARSEE
13 mins hogaye video ko, ab tak 1% history nahin batayi...
Uncle Ko Pranam 🙏
Kis baat ke liye rape jihad ki Najayaz paidash ganduudin namazi aashiq gay rasool Muslim hoone ke liye ki kisi hira Mandi ke dalle ki tarah salwar pehene ke liye 😂😂😂
So much distortion PKs have done to the history of Sindh, Karachi and whole pakistan. It is beyond repair. Whole 1 hr discussion between these 2 people on Karachi history is actually nothing but misinformation, lies.. Totally beyond repair.
shut up
1729 se leker 1800 aur phir 1900 tak aur phir 1947 tak ek "toum (qoum)" ka zikar q nahi history mae? kahan the ju kahte hai kaLaChI ChAlTa hAi ToU PaKiStAn pultA A.
Aawaz ????
Jokhio, lassi all are Sindhi 😅 buss kardo Bhai racism ki had hoti hai
Jab Sea Ships ne taraqi ki tu phr Thata ke bajae Karachi ki Value honi lagi kio ka pehle woo Sea se Derya mai ships aker thatha mai rukte the joo Derya per tha.. Fatah Sindh ke waqt British ke pass Air force nae thi. plz correct facts
Pata nai uncle kon malll phonk ke history ko parha hai
I have seen this interview of yours and With due respect to the guest in your video I found this interview very offensive as many things on this were wrong . Why just one side ? Why don't you invite people of other side and ask them same questions . If you really want to do justice than Please invite Ayaz Latif Palijo and ask him same questions or even more but this is not the way .
1daniyal bahi please ask your father what language in those days speak for trade and local snndhi and balochi people use .
sir i admit ur efforts and real historical facts but I want to mention one mistake that the chuch nama was not written by the order of chuch .it was written by an arab whose name was unknown but the translation of chuch nama in persian by ali kofi ,plz correct it
Voice kider gyi
Khan of Kalat was Brahui not Baloch
Brohi is a language... Brohi Baloch hai... Brohi k saray tribe balocho k hai kese phr brohi alag qoum howa... Esi trah saraiki bolne wale Punjabi pathan Baloch hai agr unk tribe dekhy...
Those were Sindhi balochs , that kolachi tribe still live in Sindh , genetically Baloch culturally Sindhi
Kalmati thi Kalmati kb se Sindhi culture follow krne lgy even interior sindh me b baloch balochi dress pehnty hai...
Beta kolachi are my frnds still live un Khi and Alhamdulillah we all do speak Balochi and hold Balochi culture.
It’s doesn’t matter baloch is a separate race sindhi is a separate race bhai tareeekh ko tasleem karo zabardasti sindhi nah banao kisi ko yes they accepted sindh as their homeland and will protect sindh as much as a sindhi would do but still culture jitna bhi adopt krlein rahenge ap hmesha wahi jo apki qoum hai
@@meerbilalrind2562 when did I say that Sindhi and Baloch are same race ??? Obviously kolachi and Kalmati themselves identify as Sindhi becux they migrated into Sindh , and the speaker had said that Karachi has been a part of Sindh more than Balochistan, obviously those tribes were under the influence of Sindh ....
Why don't you call yourself African or Persian long time ago Baloch migrated from both regions , why you call yourself baloch ? People identify themselves with culture of the region which they adapted not from their ancestral roots....
@@afisnotebook7546 because my race is neither african neither persian
Baloch is seperate ethnicity
His knowledge of history is very misinformed, please bring some proper historian trained in the history or may be archaelogy of karachi . Thanks
😂
SETH BHOJOMAL PAINDABAD, SETH BHAYANOMAL PAINDABAD, SETH NAOMAL PAINDABAD. ABB BHOJWANI MUMBAIKAR PAINDABAD.
Bhai inse acchi history ki jankari to meri hai bhai inki ancient history bhi mohmmad bin kasim ke baad chalu hoti hai , inko bahut kum jaankari hai history ki , bhai history jaanna hai to abhijit chavda , ranganathan aur jayvadhan singh ko bulao ye total one sided history hai wo bhi wrong . Bhai aap logo ke knowledge ka pata chal gaya . Pakistani ki Nayi generation se bhi koi expectations nahi hai padhte raho wrong history.😅😅
The state is to be blamed cuz they've been feeding this history to whole of the nation
Karachi ki History Ghair Urdu Speaker nay ghalat batai hay.
andazay na lagao thek thek batao history
There is No voice of the video
Check your airbuds
He doesn't know anything about Karachi.
Sir don't mind his urdu very weak not understand this history
تالپور حکمران کے دور میں نواب ولی محمّد خان لغاری جو پرائم منسٹر تھے تالپوروں کے 1795 میں خان آف کلات سے کراچی واپس لیا
Talpur and khan of kalat was both balochs
And laghari tribe is also baloch
The old area name of garden area martin quarter area name was kyamasari still people of makoran/makran called this area of garden area kyamasri
Rustamjee Mehta was not father of karachi, Ganga ram was not father of Lahore, Mauryan empire doesnt belong here, we will not read about takshsila(Taxila) in our history.we will celebrate all the foreign invedors.WHY? Answer is just because we now belong to the same faith as they were...just wow.🙏🏼🙏🏼
I was came here for full of curiosity but again its same story, i feel you guys have a feeling of shameness or too big of ego to accept the fact that someone from other faith is build something or called father of your 2 biggest cities..
Learn from Indonesians i have many friends who are muslims, from indonesia but they respect Gajah Mada with their heart..Gajah mada(a hindu) was the most famous militry leader of majapith..indonesia..hope you guys also opens up your mind and accept versatility.🙏🏼
DW recently ran a doc on Sind which says there was no animosity between Hindu and Muslim before 1947. It says the reason for religious violence in Sind is the migrants, who were lesa tolerant than local Sindhis.
Is that correct in your opinion?
Bay-Ghar logon ko rehnay Kay liay ashiyana chahiay tha..
Thus, Properties in Lahore and Karachi of Hindus and Sikhs got occupied by these Muhajir..
In Bay-Ghairat logon nay pehlay apnay mulq ko takseem kiya fer Pakistan aanay kay baad yahan ka sukoon bhi khatm kar diya..(Read about Muhajirs in 90s)
If possible, try to find pics of Lahore and Karachi before partition.. they were world class cities..😣
PITHAWALA IS PARSI
دانیال بھائی انکل سے ایک سوال ہے۔۔۔کراچی اور سندھ کی جب ہم تاریخ سنتے ہیں تو ہمیں محمد بن قاسم کا زکر تو ملتا ہے ۔۔یہاں اولیاء اکرام اور بزرگان دین کے مزارات بھی ملتے ہیں مگر نہیں ملتیں تو قدیم مساجد۔۔۔یہ حضرات کہیں تو باجماعت نماز پڑھتے ہونگے۔۔۔کراچی میں کیا کوئ مسجد ڈھائی 300 سال پرانی پائ جاتی ہے۔۔۔اس کی کیا وجہ ہے۔۔۔
Bhai Muhammad bin kasim Karachi nahi aya koi sahabi nahi aya karachi
محمد بن قاسم کی تو بات ہی نہیں کر رہا۔۔میں کہہ رہا ہوں کے جیسے مزارات ملتے ہیں قدیم ویسے مساجد نہیں ملتیں۔۔۔عبداللہ شاہ غازی کا مزار تو ملتا ہے ان کی مسجد نہیں ملتی۔۔۔یہ اولیاء اکرام کہیں تو باجماعت نماز پڑھتے ہونگے۔۔۔یہ ہے میرا سوال۔۔۔
@@umairilyas For that look for Cheraman Jumma Masjid, made in 628 C.E. and some in Gujrat coasts of which I forgot the name but both are before M. Bin Qasim, actually they were built before the first Caliph Rashidun.
@@umairilyasThe Jamia Masjid of Banbhor, which is said to be the first mosque of South Asia was built in 8th century AD after the conquest of Sindh by Arab warrior Muhammad Bin Qasim. It is located among the ruins of centuries-old city of Bhanbhor, in Thatta district.
@@umairilyasکل اچھی نہ ہو تو بات اچھی کیا کرو
No voice
KARACHI WAS PART OF KALAT LEASED TO BRITISHERS BY RULER OF KALAT
Whole pakistan ancient belong to Hindus civilization...
Kon sa Nasha pe kar podcast kia hai
Mir Hassan Ali Khan talpur ka fatih_e_ nama sindh parhlo uncle
Shaikh sahibh you are also child of converted Hindu. Now you as Muslim as lier would not mention of girl who was taken by talpurs. I am also from talpur of mirpurkhas .I know more than that but being convert child who mostly are converted but staunch muslim than real muslim. I have been in hyderabad and I know the converting in upper sindh like larkanu and shikarpur ..tell atleast truth not of Naumal but the history of shaikh of sindh.
Fir se is madrsachaap ka one sided story 😂😂😂
Phele hi point kherb h sikander se phele bhai bhut history h . Inti khrb history pakistan m pdhta kon h 😂😂 . Most ancient thing in pakistan is taxilla . And mohhammed bin quaism is inavder who attack both india and pakistan . You people need a good teacher
No it's I was runned by parsi
Please invite knowledgeable person , he is not telling the history just giving index of the books doesn't look like he has rode hai book
The british followed the turkish ( osmani sultanate ) practice of record keeping.
The interviewer i wish had done some homework, he is asking the most stupid questions and wasting time
7:35
HAZRAT ABDULLAH SHAH ASHABI ka mazar Thatta mey hai, Karachi mey HAZRAT ABDULLAH SHAH GHAZI ka mazar hai..
I stopped watching the video there because uncle ki knowledge theek nahi!
you never accept the hindu kings history
How can he say that Alexander came here by see? He had won Iran from where he travelled eastward to India
And no one knew navy in India?? Indian navy was among the oldest
Sorry to say but he seems to have very limited knowledge of history
@@sarvathavicharsheel7487 PAKI HAI NA
KARACHI KI HISTORY ARABI NE LIKHI HAI
@@traveldiaries2912Paki nhi Indian immigrant hai. Locals are very authentic about their history. These Indian immigrants somehow try to mock Sindhis and become Arabs.
Third class mentality hai most of pakistani citizen excluding you
Do against ban of hindu fest in Pakistani University
Atleast say something
Nahi to ye bolna band kr dena ki hum hindu aapke pyare muslim( jo Pakistan Partition k wakt galti se yhi chhod gye tum log ) bhai bahen ke upar kayamat dhaa rhe hai
By the way agar ye msg padh k tumhe lage ki hum indian(hindu) extremist hai to thik hai