Mountain Lions in Arizona

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  • Опубликовано: 23 май 2012
  • Mountain lion research is uncovering interesting glimpses into the natural history of these magnificent predators in Arizona. Researcher Brian Jansen helps separate fact from fiction with this look at his research project.

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  • @notsosilentmajority1
    @notsosilentmajority1 6 лет назад +51

    Cougars are just awesome. They give us something to admire, fear and love all at the same time. They, along with Jaguars are my favorite cats and have been since I'm a child. Now I'm an old man so I guess I kept my distance and admired these wonderful cats from afar, lol. Mountain lions have such a vast range and such a vast diet that they can basically survive in any atmosphere, gotta be in love with them while kinda fearing them at the same time. They really are one of natures gems

  • @AllAmericanDreamChaser
    @AllAmericanDreamChaser 8 лет назад +71

    I stumbled upon one of these beautiful lions while hiking in Flagstaff, Arizona. It looked at me and quickly ran away. I'm glad I was too ugly for him.😁

    • @NemosHusbandswife
      @NemosHusbandswife 8 лет назад +1

      +ArizonaDesertRats OMG! It's you! hahah. I see on News reports all the time man.

    • @AllAmericanDreamChaser
      @AllAmericanDreamChaser 8 лет назад +3

      +Nemo's Husband's wife Everybody's got to have a hobby! Nice to hear from you. I'm still trolling CNN!!😁👍

    • @notsosilentmajority1
      @notsosilentmajority1 6 лет назад +2

      German hussar - Great post man. There are not enough people that can poke fun at themselves. Great job and God bless.

    • @sarban1653
      @sarban1653 6 лет назад +2

      Its a cougar not a lion.

    • @tricksnflips2464
      @tricksnflips2464 6 лет назад +1

      All American Dream Chaser i live in flag

  • @speedfingers1234
    @speedfingers1234 5 лет назад +7

    LOL That dog is looking at the camera like "Well, we found the SOB now what do we do?" 4:08

  • @Mapleneckguitar
    @Mapleneckguitar 11 лет назад +10

    This is the best ML video/documentary that i have found online yet. Thank you so much for posting this video. I am fascinated by these animals. I am very happy to see my tax dollars at work on such a fantastic project... love watching people who are passionate about their work.

  • @prej1741
    @prej1741 3 года назад +5

    I want to help protect these beautiful animals. Is there any way I can help

  • @lucasaguilera3399
    @lucasaguilera3399 8 лет назад +12

    I've seen 2 moantain lion before. 1 in my backyard when I was living in King city CA and the other at a hiking trail in San Jose CA Almaden park

  • @Godisgreater123
    @Godisgreater123 6 лет назад +8

    hiking here in AZ since 1973..never saw a Mt. Lion, but maybe one saw me !! eek!

    • @Noctifern
      @Noctifern 5 лет назад +1

      Dang I had one follow me and shriek while hunting, seen a few while on the mogollon rim

    • @gottgaame
      @gottgaame 4 года назад +1

      U probably won’t see one unless u are a deer lol. But they will see u they will be hidden watching u

    • @estebanmuniz831
      @estebanmuniz831 3 года назад +1

      Went to the Verde Head waters a couple days ago, it was honestly amazing and kinda scary to hear them communicating from one side of the river to the other. they are amazing creatures and deserve to be left as is.
      Mountain lions are illusive and deserve to be preserved. Don’t bother them, and they won’t bother you.
      Esteban Muniz.

  • @talkingtina4519
    @talkingtina4519 6 лет назад +7

    I saw a dead mountain lion off interstate 8 maybe 20 miles south of Gila Bend today. Was a big one.

  • @owenfitzgerald9023
    @owenfitzgerald9023 5 лет назад +1

    Great video!

  • @AB-1023
    @AB-1023 2 года назад

    Had no idea there was mountain lions here. One crossed in front of my car on the way to work tonight. Brought me here

  • @virginiawatson153
    @virginiawatson153 Год назад +1

    Such beautiful cats. I hope the foot snares don't hurt the cats.

  • @toddlogg
    @toddlogg 5 лет назад +22

    "The thing about Mountain Lions is they see you, not the other way around"-Aurther Morgan

    • @Anomaly-uz9pr
      @Anomaly-uz9pr 5 лет назад

      Carl Brehmer best comment on here

    • @denyspoyner4150
      @denyspoyner4150 5 лет назад +2

      I was born and raised in AZ, I'm 50 and have only eye witnessed 2 in the wild. First was in the Cerbat Mnts. the second was over near Florence. I'm sure more than a few have seen me, on a prospecting trip to the Bradshaw's I saw Cat tracks in the wash. That'll keep your head on a swivel ! Hahaha.

  • @susettesoja1482
    @susettesoja1482 3 года назад

    Thank you very good informative video.

  • @homeboymma4539
    @homeboymma4539 Год назад

    I enjoyed this very much!

  • @panicatthepierce7864
    @panicatthepierce7864 7 лет назад +6

    0:19 omg now that's pretty cute😂🐱

  • @alexcasaresOracleAZ
    @alexcasaresOracleAZ 12 лет назад +5

    Great video. I spotted a large mountain lion near my home in Oracle AZ very beautiful animal.

    • @tylo8328
      @tylo8328 3 года назад

      Shoot it

    • @reagan6743
      @reagan6743 3 года назад

      @@tylo8328 no

    • @twostop6895
      @twostop6895 3 года назад

      @@tylo8328 wild life killing contest were banned in Arizona in 2019, more support predators than hunting, get with the program, hunting is dying white culture

    • @Jerry_Traphouse
      @Jerry_Traphouse 2 года назад

      @@twostop6895 every culture hunts u headass 🤦🏼‍♂️

  • @judybrown1952
    @judybrown1952 6 лет назад +2

    Saw one last night about 6:30 PM along side a bush near highway 89 between Cameron and Flagstaff.

    • @prej1741
      @prej1741 3 года назад

      I’ve never seen one

  • @mihoyminoy8730
    @mihoyminoy8730 2 года назад +2

    I live out in Rio Rico and there’s a mountain lion that likes to go through my back yard. We caught him on our motion sensor camera a few times that and a bob cat. They also like to go over to my neighbor’s yard and drink from their pool. All the houses are really spread out so it’s a quiet area with plenty of small animals for wild cats to eat. Not to mention plenty of places to blend in lol.

  • @Dennycrane757
    @Dennycrane757 6 месяцев назад

    Magnificent creatures 🥰. I’d love to see one up close in a zoo one day.

  • @lindadennis8666
    @lindadennis8666 3 года назад

    Beautiful

  • @sandratessem9980
    @sandratessem9980 3 года назад

    Very interesting

  • @TheRealJRC
    @TheRealJRC 3 года назад

    What beautiful animals.

  • @TestTest-fm2cu
    @TestTest-fm2cu 5 лет назад +21

    These things are my worst fear. That being said I’d never hurt one and have nothing but respect for them. But man they scare me.

    • @sharonkaczorowski8690
      @sharonkaczorowski8690 4 года назад

      You. Only need to worry about cats to injured or debilitated to take down prey. And even in that population it’s rare to attack humans.

    • @woodysthoughts4032
      @woodysthoughts4032 3 года назад

      They have attacked and killed humans, so be wary.

    • @gamerpanda3590
      @gamerpanda3590 3 года назад

      Woody'sThoughts I mean that is just life. Animals die every day due to the cycle of life. We humans will die to them aswell. I don’t understand why people don’t understand that.

    • @idipped2521
      @idipped2521 3 года назад

      @Sims 3 Forever Dude they go straight for the jugular

    • @anthonybeltran1019
      @anthonybeltran1019 3 года назад

      People with guns of course.

  • @willswalkingwest7267
    @willswalkingwest7267 Год назад

    I have a very cropped picture of a cougar that I saw in a ravine near Globe, Arizona in 2019.

  • @angielong
    @angielong 5 лет назад +2

    Also here in Tennessee

  • @UnderSprayedWhiteSkies
    @UnderSprayedWhiteSkies Год назад

    About two years ago I saw a huge Mountain Lion right about sunset cross the street 200 meters from my house here in Springerville, Arizona. On my move here one bounded across Highway 60 several hundred meters in front of me near the NM/AZ states' line just east of town. My first mountain lion sighting was in the Bridger Mountains, Montana. It was a young one and it was sniffing where I peed several hours earlier.

  • @be-kc9cf
    @be-kc9cf 4 месяца назад

    When I was a toddler, my dad would get calls from the ranchers to hunt mountain lines, wolves, coyotes, bobcats. He would take me along and pile them into the bed of the truck. I got to sit on them, look at their eyes, fangs, huge paws and they have the most beautiful eyes. No such thing as using dogs, just a horse, traps and his rifles. My dad’s Navajo, never seen any of people use dogs. lol

  • @rumsin300
    @rumsin300 3 года назад +2

    Great predator. Hopefully will be around us for long time.

  • @adriangarcia1758
    @adriangarcia1758 5 лет назад +1

    I love you Arizona

  • @1t2t3t4t5t6t7
    @1t2t3t4t5t6t7 11 лет назад +1

    They are.

  • @strictlyconservative8777
    @strictlyconservative8777 10 месяцев назад

    While I was visiting my parents in Scottsdale at their home in the Legend Trails private preserve it was 9:30 in the morning and a mountain lion was walking in the wash mere feet from where I was standing. I didn't move. Thankfully, everything went fine. There are plenty of mountain lions in the low mountains of Northern Scottsdale. Prior to this, they lived in the Sincuidados neighborhood also in North Scottsdale and there were many sightings of mountain lion there too.

  • @prej1741
    @prej1741 3 года назад

    They are so beautiful

  • @thecount1001
    @thecount1001 4 года назад

    great video, gorgeous cats. these are longer, slimmer cats than our Vancouver Island lions. i imagine it's climate related.

    • @thecount1001
      @thecount1001 3 года назад

      @Sims 3 Forever Dude you sir. are a nut job.

    • @thecount1001
      @thecount1001 2 года назад

      @Sims 3 Forever Dude your meds need adjusting.

    • @Squintel7
      @Squintel7 Год назад

      Yeah, most cougars in warmer climates tend to be on the thinner side- not always though. The biggest, thickest and most jaguar esqe cougars come from new mexico and arizona I hear. They aren't just big, but extremely thickly muscled, giant forearms, shoulders ETC. So while the average arizona Cougar is thinner I believe they have a higher potential to be beasts than any other population... Just thinking out loud lol.

  • @TheOhioDNR
    @TheOhioDNR 11 лет назад +1

    Great Video! Majestic animal too!

  • @cacatr4495
    @cacatr4495 5 лет назад

    It's unusual that a Texan (or somebody with a non-Arizonan manner of speech) narrates an Arizona video. ~ Saved to my large Arizona playlist. Thanks for posting.

  • @darcyburlingame9448
    @darcyburlingame9448 5 лет назад +4

    I saw a mountain lion in flagstaff Arizona when I was hiking I almost sat on one

    • @equarg
      @equarg 4 года назад

      darcy burlingame
      😅 I would not blame that Cougar for biting you in the butt for that (enough to leave an interesting scar, but not crippling. Like when a mad domestic cat bites you)......or at least giving you a few good head swats!
      I would not recommend sitting on a large cat....
      If I was the park ranger who found you crawling for help, saw you had decent hole in your pants, and you tell me a Cougar bit you in the butt because you sat on it....
      I may need a moment to stop laughing. 😅
      I am well aware of rules and regulations. But I think that “attack” would be considered reasonable recourse of a wild animal. Especially if your gonna be ok...if your not gonna die from your injuries. Just not be able to sit for a little while.
      😏 Oh, then there is the precautionary Rabies shots.......

    • @Justicely234
      @Justicely234 3 года назад

      Are u serious?!

    • @darcyburlingame9448
      @darcyburlingame9448 3 года назад

      @@Justicely234 yes I did

  • @chillbill7690
    @chillbill7690 4 года назад

    Has using the foot snares for catching cougars ever injured the paws of the animal?

  • @sharonkaczorowski8690
    @sharonkaczorowski8690 4 года назад

    Wonderful film...thanks!

  • @nicoleperrelli1605
    @nicoleperrelli1605 4 года назад +4

    I think you should stop doing what you’re doing or leave them alone you trap them you hurt them if it’s a female with babies you’re taking it away from feeding her babies by the time you get to each trap who knows how long it takes you to get there so for days the animal starving her babies are starving The babies can leave their hiding spot and get killed by other animals

  • @Darronsanderson
    @Darronsanderson Год назад

    Imagine walking a trail far away from civilization and finding a lion looking at you. 😮

  • @rayhanes1347
    @rayhanes1347 3 года назад

    Mountain Lions have come as far as MI and that's a fact. Plenty of fresh sightings.

  • @tricksnflips2464
    @tricksnflips2464 6 лет назад +2

    I live near flag Az in a place named garland prarie and i got stacked and when i locked back and saw it it didnt move at all for like 10 minutes

  • @toddkenyon9081
    @toddkenyon9081 10 лет назад +10

    HERE.......KITTY , KITTY,

  • @GrayEagle48
    @GrayEagle48 3 года назад

    We have them here in Florida, but their called the Florida panther.

    • @tylo8328
      @tylo8328 3 года назад

      Hashtag hockey season put em up boys

  • @kvedwards1971
    @kvedwards1971 3 года назад

    You would think in this day and age they could do away with strapping those car batter sized tracking collars and get some smaller and less invasive

  • @1t2t3t4t5t6t7
    @1t2t3t4t5t6t7 11 лет назад +1

    I thought the same, but then i concluded that they are probably right. Those you name are subspecies and the mountain lion was said to be the 4th largest species. Anyways, tiger and lion are the two largest species, jaguars are a little larger than cougars, and if i remember correctly both leopard and snow leopard are smaller than cougars (though these are veeery similar in size). Cheetahs are smaller, all other felines are negligible.

    • @Squintel7
      @Squintel7 Год назад

      @Sims 3 Forever Dude Wouldn't go that far. A British Columbia male cougar is roughly 40kgs from a pantanal jaguar. Sure cougars in the tropics are smaller but that is due to a lack of large sized prey to support both the cougar and the jaguar. Patagonia cougars do not have these issues and grow to be 100+kgs (220+lbs)

  • @cavesx7925
    @cavesx7925 3 года назад +1

    Bruh we gonna camp in payson today

  • @jameslatimer1432
    @jameslatimer1432 5 лет назад +3

    Love these big cats WISH PEOPLE WOULD leave them alone the human so CALLED humans hate most of them selfish twatt

  • @rogerkreil3314
    @rogerkreil3314 2 года назад

    Could a mountain lion watch someone walking along a nature path without attacking him or her?

  • @Mae19876
    @Mae19876 6 лет назад

    we got them in mi

  • @prej1741
    @prej1741 3 года назад

    ❤️😘

  • @oscartec88
    @oscartec88 9 лет назад +3

    2nd largest in North America? Who is the first?

    • @NemosHusbandswife
      @NemosHusbandswife 8 лет назад +4

      +oscartec88 Jaguar. Jaguars actually evolved in USA.

    • @schlooonginator1227
      @schlooonginator1227 6 лет назад

      German hussar kinda misleading considering they no longer exist in North America. Would be best to say the Americas.

    • @sidgar1
      @sidgar1 6 лет назад +5

      schlooonginator Not true. Jaguars exist in many parts of Mexico, which is part of North America. And they are returning to parts of the United States.
      ruclips.net/video/PzM1-oUi8RA/видео.html

    • @sarban1653
      @sarban1653 6 лет назад

      schloonginator - TIL that Mexico is not part of North America.

    • @cacatr4495
      @cacatr4495 5 лет назад

      Jaguars are in Arizona, seen both in southern Arizona and as far north as the Grand Canyon area.

  • @bahcue7381
    @bahcue7381 7 лет назад +1

    I thought leopards were bigger than pumas

    • @cacatr4495
      @cacatr4495 5 лет назад +1

      No, they're smaller.

  • @codegood1024
    @codegood1024 11 лет назад

    Your naming subspecies they don't base it off of that it's simply tiger lion jaguar mountain lion leopard etc.

    • @codegood1024
      @codegood1024 2 года назад

      @Sims 3 Forever Dude Dude you replied to my comment from 8 years ago idk what or who I was even talking to

  • @kevinreis1002
    @kevinreis1002 8 лет назад +1

    come to mass there here i seen a black one

  • @susankovacs8678
    @susankovacs8678 12 дней назад

    Does the trap hurt the lion? Can’t you study them without trapping them? I prefer them to be free.

    • @guyintenn
      @guyintenn 5 дней назад

      What do you suggest? Just walk up to the lion and put the tracking collar on? Ask it how much it weighs and is it in good health? Scientific research is based on studies and observations, including hands on, not your emotional preference.

  • @benjaminmcclatchey9814
    @benjaminmcclatchey9814 3 месяца назад

    Your map is not accurate. Mountain lions are common throughout the state of Missouri in the mountains and as far north as Chicago.

  • @kathy888
    @kathy888 3 года назад

    A bicyclist was chased by one in Virginia, so the map isn't quite correct.

  • @TM-pg7qm
    @TM-pg7qm 11 лет назад +1

    Pathers are jaguars and Mountain lions are different look it up son.

  • @KaressaMareko
    @KaressaMareko 4 года назад

    Brian jansen take me out on a mountain lion sighting date

  • @millennialsheppado2836
    @millennialsheppado2836 5 лет назад +2

    I prefer to call them cougars

    • @EMS.WildlandFire.TreeClimber.
      @EMS.WildlandFire.TreeClimber. 5 лет назад

      I can't feed my family wild organic meat? Mountain lion is great eating. Should I go to McDonald's instead? Maybe I should get my kids chicken nuggets, would that make you happy? Actually, I think I will keep hunting and eating them thanks

    • @laurie1536
      @laurie1536 5 лет назад +1

      @@EMS.WildlandFire.TreeClimber. Why don't you just raise your own meat and chicken and stick to hunting deer, elk, rabbits and other real game animals. Go fishing. No reason to eat Mtn. Lions at all.

    • @EMS.WildlandFire.TreeClimber.
      @EMS.WildlandFire.TreeClimber. 5 лет назад

      @@laurie1536 I do all of those things. One could your own logic against you quite easily. My question is why do you think a mountain lion is more valuable than a deer?

    • @laurie1536
      @laurie1536 5 лет назад

      @@EMS.WildlandFire.TreeClimber. I don't. I think ALL life forms are of equal value. Except maybe ticks and mosquitos. haha I'm just pondering WHY, when they are so many other domestic and game animals to choose from, why someone would choose to kill and consume a magnificent predatory animal such as a Cougar. Surely their meat cannot be so amazingly great that they are the Lobsters of the forest. Not assigning more value to a Cougar over a deer or chicken or fish in the big picture but, IF one has all of these other food options in ready supply WHY kill and eat a Cougar? Just seems unnecessary IMO.

    • @EMS.WildlandFire.TreeClimber.
      @EMS.WildlandFire.TreeClimber. 5 лет назад

      I respect your opinion but when you use the word "magnificent" it is very telling to me. It seems you did not use the word magnificent for a deer so you do in fact value one over the other. I do not. So therefore it makes no difference to me whether it is a deer or a cougar either one has 100 lb of meat. Don't get me wrong, both are magnificent to me and I respect and value both of them. And you may not believe this, but I know in my heart that I am telling the truth when I say I am extremely sad every time I kill an animal. Fact is that in Arizona deer seasons are short and mountain Lion seasons are all year long. When deer season is over I switch to lion.

  • @jefferyschirm4103
    @jefferyschirm4103 2 года назад

    They learn to hang wear the food is follow a highway to feed on road kill or deer injured by autos !

  • @juanjeremy2012
    @juanjeremy2012 11 лет назад +2

    what do you mean "the second largest cat in north america"? what is bigger, a jaguar? i dont think we have those in north america, generally

    • @bahcue7381
      @bahcue7381 7 лет назад +1

      juanjeremy2012 we do they may even be making a comeback in Texas

    • @donnakeeley7924
      @donnakeeley7924 6 лет назад

      At one time they were pretty much eradicated in the States. The ones you are seeing now are coming in from South America through Mexico as South America is getting more populated and the forests are being cut down.

    • @Noctifern
      @Noctifern 5 лет назад

      We have them in southern Arizona as well

  • @danjones3402
    @danjones3402 2 года назад

    How about we leave them alone 🧐

  • @billsgates3203
    @billsgates3203 4 года назад +1

    Using foot snares to capture an animal is very dangerous to the animals health👎👎👎👎👎

  • @wilbozz
    @wilbozz 10 лет назад +3

    Think you need to update your map, Mountain Lions are found in West Virginia just as an example.

    • @foxmulder7616
      @foxmulder7616 4 года назад

      Wisconsin too idk why they said that he said their endangered in Florida too. Maybe originally they were only out west?

  • @seekthelighttruth3207
    @seekthelighttruth3207 3 года назад

    Washington cougars

  • @rickstar6276
    @rickstar6276 3 года назад

    Its weird how the mountain lion is heaver than the leopard but the leopard is stronger

  • @daughterofthemosthigh9931
    @daughterofthemosthigh9931 4 года назад

    Oh do I wish I could post a picture here! I camp up on the moogion rim and one of the camp hosts gave me two pictures of two mountain lions some guys killed up here and I kid you not the mountain lions body was as long as the man from ground to shoulders just huge! That's the day I went out to buy a gun...I'm sure ive encountered one on a hike and once i was sitting at a creek could just feel something watching me and turned where my back wasn't facing him..its not joke you've got to scan your surroundings constantly! I see the bones of elk and deer where they've eaten right down to the bone tearing every bit of meat off "I don't want that happening to me" if we're going to enjoy the outdoors we've got to respect nature..
    I hand fed a bull elk a couple weeks ago and I'll never do that again!
    I was just in the moment and didn't realize how fast he could of killed me!
    They're beautiful animals but very unpredictable too!
    Just because they come up to us doesn't always mean they have good intentions....

  • @jamesheyer3887
    @jamesheyer3887 6 лет назад +3

    I found a mtn lion trail in sedona, ive seen him right smack on the side of the hwy 179 as i was walking, only 20 yards from me. It was 9:45pm, i shined my mag light in his face and he ran off. Talked to old man lee (fish and game) last yr and he seemed to not care so i decided to hunt it. Not to kill it but to do what lee should have done, to let the cat know that lurking in town will get it killed. Shame on sedona's fish and game representative for being a lazy bum. I had over a dozen people tell me they saw the big cat in town. The local paper (red rock news) also did nothing. 3 people actually told me they thought the cat was stalking them. I can tell you this, it was stalking me, which is why i decided to confront it and run it off. When our government fails to do its job, the public needs to step up.
    Now i am asking the state of arizona to pay me for my services. To my knowledge it has left the area but it could have just learned to be more careful and not be seen lurking around.
    Thanks mr. Lee, retire already.
    Studying these cats is very important but the safety of the citizens is much more important. That is for the bums at fish and game arizona. Im not waiting for a big cat to kill a child or one of my pets, im not our government, i will protect them before they fall victim.

    • @jamesgoldner2804
      @jamesgoldner2804 5 лет назад

      They were probably waiting for it to become a threat ..so some Loser could hunt it..you've seen for yourself they shy from humans..if people would just give them their needed space ..they would tend to their own bussiness. .living their life out.glad you got to see one.

    • @jefferyschirm4103
      @jefferyschirm4103 2 года назад

      @@jamesgoldner2804 9

  • @jwsschreiner
    @jwsschreiner 11 лет назад +4

    Wow truly amazing animals please leave them alone

  • @megamar
    @megamar 12 лет назад +4

    Beautiful animal!! Please don't hunt them for sport!

    • @memyself1176
      @memyself1176 4 года назад

      I hunt them for fun

    • @prej1741
      @prej1741 3 года назад

      @@memyself1176 that’s awful

  • @kevinreis1002
    @kevinreis1002 8 лет назад

    dud those things are everywhere stop lying to people i seen them i night they travel parallel to hihhway

  • @BaniHasanZiod
    @BaniHasanZiod 11 лет назад +4

    wonderful animal please protect them

  • @MrStensnask
    @MrStensnask 11 лет назад

    The 4th largest? Hmm, let's see... there's the Siberian tiger, the Bengal tiger, the Sumatran tiger, the Indochinese tiger, the South chinese tiger and the Malayan tiger. Then there's the African lion and the Indian lion. Then we have all the different species of leopards and jaguars. It seems odd that the Mountain lion would be the 4th largest even if you compared it with just the largest tiger, lion, leopard and jaguar. I know the Mountain lion is big but it's not THAT big :)

    • @memyself1176
      @memyself1176 4 года назад

      @Sims 3 Forever Dude
      You're right and jaguar have BIG heads which equal alot of JAW POWER.

  • @bapyou
    @bapyou 12 лет назад

    Arizona: Protecting mountain lions and banning books on Latino history in Tucson.
    Nice.

    • @ChickensAndGardening
      @ChickensAndGardening 6 лет назад +2

      Bringing politics into a discussion about mountain lions. Nice.

  • @arypma
    @arypma 11 лет назад +2

    Panther, cougar, etc. Call them what you want? Uhm, those are not all the same animal dude.

    • @Noctifern
      @Noctifern 4 года назад

      Yes they are

    • @arypma
      @arypma 4 года назад

      @@Noctifern no really theyre not

    • @Noctifern
      @Noctifern 4 года назад

      @@arypma yes they are, different names for the same cat

    • @arypma
      @arypma 4 года назад

      @@Noctifern please Google panther and cougar. Not the same thing

    • @Noctifern
      @Noctifern 4 года назад

      @@arypma bruh