Breaking Bad 3x9 'Kafkaesque' | First Time Reaction

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  • Опубликовано: 11 июл 2024
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    Join Maple and Arianna for an enthralling journey into the complex world of "Breaking Bad" with their first-time reaction to Season 3, Episode 9, "Kafkaesque." This episode delves deeper into the consequences of Walt and Jesse's burgeoning meth business under Gus's discreet yet expansive operation. Watch as Maple and Arianna witness the duo grappling with moral dilemmas, the tension between personal gain and ethical boundaries, and the ever-present danger lurking around each corner. "Kafkaesque" showcases the series' knack for blending intense drama with elements of dark humor and philosophical exploration. After the reaction, Maple and Arianna will discuss the episode's intricate plot developments, character dynamics, and the symbolic meanings behind the title, reflecting on how the characters find themselves in a surreal and oppressive reality reminiscent of Franz Kafka's works.
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    00:00 - Intro
    00:10 - Reaction
    28:27 - Review
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  • @liljackypaper
    @liljackypaper 4 месяца назад +297

    Can't believe anyone would think $1.25 million dollars a month isn't a lot of money. That's life changing money. You didn't build the lab. You're not supplying/paying for the materials. You didn't build the distribution network. You're not providing dealers. You're taking very little risk. You just show up to a laundry mat and cook a couple times a week and you're a millionaire? Bro sign me TF up

    • @archstanton664
      @archstanton664 4 месяца назад +55

      I was coming here to comment this!
      - That's still *only*, 1.25?
      - That's not a lot.
      Bish, whaa???!!!

    • @WillTaft
      @WillTaft 4 месяца назад +29

      You're also the linchpin of the operation. It's like if McDonald's operated off of one kitchen for an entire quarter of the country.
      Yea, it's a lot of money, but you also probably deserve a bigger piece of the pie. They were, at the low end of prices, producing over $3.2M in meth each week. $166.4M per year (again, this is a low end estimation). Their end for being the sole cooks was less than 10%.
      Again, good pay for the risk involved, but they probably deserved 15%.

    • @liljackypaper
      @liljackypaper 4 месяца назад +32

      @@WillTaft You're not though. Gus could literally video tape him and follow his steps. No matter what Walt says to Victor to gaslight him and Gus, there are plenty of people who could replace Walt. The difference between 99 and 96 percent is never as large as even Gale makes it sound.

    • @thewizardmf175
      @thewizardmf175 4 месяца назад

      Cuz we all wanna wear the number 1 headband if given th chance

    • @tomasvanous2753
      @tomasvanous2753 4 месяца назад +6

      Bro, I would be a billionare in four months in my country with that salary, girls are crazy :D

  • @disdeg9514
    @disdeg9514 4 месяца назад +84

    Kafkaesque as a term is most closely associated with his work The Trial, where the main character is accused of a crime he doesn't understand, and is navigating a circular, incomprehensible legal system that he can't understand or escape.
    It's a feeling of a complex, toxic, unhealthy bureaucracy and feeling lost in the swamp of rules around you. So, the worst corporate job you've ever had.

    • @Serryy
      @Serryy 4 месяца назад +1

      Its not so much about bureaucracy, more so the absurdism

    • @disdeg9514
      @disdeg9514 4 месяца назад +8

      ​@@Serryy it is used that way sometimes, but it is a pretty specific definition including some kind of hierarchy and non-intuitive rules
      That's why in the show the NA guy uses it, referring to a 'totally corporate' job where people are running around and you're not allowed to see the boss

    • @seanyoung9014
      @seanyoung9014 4 месяца назад

      I work at the Senate so I'll see your measly worst corporate job and raise you infinity. Nothing makes sense there. 😂...😐...😮‍💨

    • @TheGabrielPT
      @TheGabrielPT 4 месяца назад

      One of the best books Ive ever read

    • @roems6396
      @roems6396 4 месяца назад

      @@seanyoung9014
      What do you do there, and how do you maintain sanity?

  • @ascii_9727
    @ascii_9727 4 месяца назад +42

    "Marie is a purple person she will get it done, Hank will walk again" why does that actually make sense hahaha

    • @Lmwpitt
      @Lmwpitt 4 месяца назад

      Does it...? Spoiler below.
      Spoiler: It is Walt's money and Hank's rage/determination for Heisenberg that gets him walking and working.

  • @BobTheSkull
    @BobTheSkull 4 месяца назад +120

    "Marie's a purple person, shes gonna get it done." god i love this channel

    • @prp2
      @prp2 4 месяца назад

      Wonder if there's a subtle reference to the Purple People Eater? Or maybe it's that purple has long been associated with royalty as in that's how Marie views herself? 🤔

    • @andrewstephens5885
      @andrewstephens5885 4 месяца назад

      @@prp2maybe man

  • @grumpyboomer61
    @grumpyboomer61 4 месяца назад +60

    Walt getting a master class in lying is the best. Sky is so good at it that he kinda sees why she was so pissed at his half assed stories. 😂

  • @bigpictureguys8415
    @bigpictureguys8415 4 месяца назад +9

    there’s a special place in hell for people trying to push drugs at an NA meeting

  • @PsychoMuffinSDM
    @PsychoMuffinSDM 4 месяца назад +17

    What I love about the way Skylar lies, is how well she builds it off of truth.

    • @red_villain6229
      @red_villain6229 4 месяца назад +1

      That's how you're supposed to lie 😆

  • @mikegarcia6979
    @mikegarcia6979 4 месяца назад +25

    Almost all of Kafka's stuff involves complex situations that the protagonist finds impossible to escape. The more he tries, the worse it gets. In many of the stories, the problem is faceless government bureaucracy.

    • @prp2
      @prp2 4 месяца назад

      As one who's perhaps well-read in Kafka, any first suggestions?

    • @GMontag
      @GMontag 4 месяца назад +3

      @@prp2 Metamorphosis and The Trial are probably his two best known stories.

  • @Maxisamo1
    @Maxisamo1 4 месяца назад +52

    "My stomach would be in my ASS"
    Maple, 2024

  • @JollyJoshums
    @JollyJoshums 4 месяца назад +32

    I like how in one episode, Arriana and Maple went from trashing Skylar for the way she treated Ted to calling her a queen by the end of the episode.

    • @artistfloor9
      @artistfloor9 4 месяца назад +23

      It’s because they, unlike all the dumb Skyler haters, seem to recognize that she is a complex character and doesn’t just exist to spoil Walt’s fun.

    • @Sig509
      @Sig509 4 месяца назад +6

      @@artistfloor9 complex cheater

    • @artistfloor9
      @artistfloor9 4 месяца назад +10

      @@Sig509 Yes, that’s right. And Walt is a complex criminal. What point were you trying to make again?

    • @jerodast
      @jerodast 3 месяца назад

      It's because they, unlike a good portion of the commenters, don't take any one opinion of a character too seriously, and they don't think being very critical of a character trait or decision means they "hate" them, nor the inverse.

    • @Erebus008
      @Erebus008 28 дней назад

      @@artistfloor9 Thing is, they recognise the complexities of female characters.. not much on the male ones a lot of the time. Which to me personally, while I find it annoying, I think it's fair because I find myself doing the same thing with male characters *sometimes* .

  • @alexreverman4585
    @alexreverman4585 4 месяца назад +9

    An example would be Kafka's work "The Trial," where the protagonist is--fittingly--on trial. But due to the frustrating nature of the system that he is stuck in, neither he nor the reader are ever able to find out what he's being accused of, nor is he able to find out exactly what government agency is putting him on trial in the first place.

  • @r.achel044
    @r.achel044 4 месяца назад +8

    18:50 yeah he is amazing. "problem dog" is another one of those episodes that just makes me so emotional. he also has some good moments in bojack horseman. everyone that's seen the show knows the part from "it's you" lol

  • @laffingist218
    @laffingist218 4 месяца назад +13

    glasses above the ear = keeps the lenses from reflecting the set lights into camera. you point the lenses downward coz the lights are usually overhead pointed at the actors' faces.

    • @MapleDivine
      @MapleDivine 4 месяца назад +2

      Oooo we should try this trick on camera too!! Good tip! Makes sense!

    • @laffingist218
      @laffingist218 4 месяца назад +1

      @@MapleDivine have fun noticing it from now on!

  • @martinholt8168
    @martinholt8168 4 месяца назад +6

    Kafka's most famous work is METAMORPHOSIS, in which a man wakes up to find himself transformed into a cockroach.
    Describes Walter to a tee.

    • @r.achel044
      @r.achel044 4 месяца назад +1

      i've only seen people compare it to jesse's story tbh, but it def works for walt too. poor gregor

  • @jubelbrosseau7966
    @jubelbrosseau7966 4 месяца назад +7

    I can’t recommend Franz Kafka enough. I’d recommend his novella The Metamorphosis, in Susan Bernofsky’s translation. It’s a quick read and the translator really foregrounds the humor, as Kafka intended.

  • @SussySpitoon
    @SussySpitoon 4 месяца назад +6

    Ariannas eyes scare me it’s like she’s looking in my soul

  • @MeatballCereal
    @MeatballCereal 4 месяца назад +4

    15:33 "Can that car even go that fast?"
    Made me think of the first time I hot pulled over for speeding. 85 in a 60 on an empty small stretch of 4-lane highway, in a beat up hand-me-down 4 cylinder barely faster than a tricycle 1989 Ford Tempo. The speedometer topped out at 90. No ticket, just a warning. Deupity was amazed that car even stayed in one piece. So was i, at 60, it was rattling so much i thought it would fall apart! 😂

  • @jlilley73
    @jlilley73 4 месяца назад +7

    Hello, I'm one of those viewers who rarely comments 😆I appreciate your character analyses!! I may not psychoanalyze characters to the same degree, but I always try to approach each character from a place of empathy rather than judgment, so I rarely "hate" any of the characters -- though in this case, I must admit that I do save most of my bile for Walt 🙄

  • @KiraVexing
    @KiraVexing 4 месяца назад +7

    "Marie's a Purple Person. She's gonna get it done" YEAH 💜💜💜💜

  • @crisrobinson3092
    @crisrobinson3092 4 месяца назад +3

    I LOVE your idea of character analysis for this show with the board with red yarn connecting everyone! Their interactions and the ensuing emotions that fuel future behavior. You guys are so animated while discussing it! This show is great and your analysis is highlighting why. Hats off to you ladies.

  • @Elephant2024-wi2li
    @Elephant2024-wi2li 4 месяца назад +3

    Kafkaesque is a good way to describe not only this episode, but the entire series. Because the characters always find themselves in Kafka like nightmarish situations.

  • @bigpictureguys8415
    @bigpictureguys8415 4 месяца назад +2

    8:55 I could be wrong but I’d imagine a DEA agent would have a killer health insurance plan.

  • @martinholt8168
    @martinholt8168 4 месяца назад +5

    16:30 In Fyodor Dostoyevski's classic novel NOTES FROM UNDERGROUND, the author lays out the case that true existential free will does not exist without self destruction.
    Heisenberg is starting to embrace that philosophy.

  • @jennifervalentine8955
    @jennifervalentine8955 4 месяца назад +6

    I 100% understand Skylar's mindset and attitude. She's a normie housewife of two kids wanting to live a quiet life. Walt is the one going nuts and doing things that can endanger every aspect of that life. Further, pretty quickly at this rate, their family will have more money than they know what to do with

    • @thedarkemissary
      @thedarkemissary 4 месяца назад

      *Used to* ...do things that ...*risked arrest.* Remember, he retired for about two months following the last batch of methylamine. She only figured it out afterward. And he only started cooking again after finalizing the divorce.

  • @firegod001
    @firegod001 4 месяца назад +11

    Great reaction! I love what you said about Skyler. Almost all of the characters in this show do despicable things. It's interesting to see the over the top hate some people have for Skyler, considering all the horrible shit going on here.

    • @eddiehoward7002
      @eddiehoward7002 4 месяца назад +2

      And while she’s no saint, she by far is nowhere near as bad as most of the people in the show.

    • @cpob2013
      @cpob2013 4 месяца назад +1

      Skylar does her horrible shit out of spite. Theres no excuse for her.

    • @1215298
      @1215298 4 месяца назад +4

      ​@@cpob2013
      Whilst I don't like Skyler, Walter refused to let rich people literally pay for his treatment out of spite: he has no leg to stand on.

  • @TheRepublican777
    @TheRepublican777 4 месяца назад +3

    That story of giving that wood box to his mom but then telling the truth about trading it for weed he realizes now how important that box was to him and how he just gave it away for tells you how little he thinks of himself and his achievements that drugs was more important to him at the time

  • @cheappoetry2798
    @cheappoetry2798 4 месяца назад +24

    This is really the turning point of the whole show imo

    • @sunvinn
      @sunvinn 4 месяца назад +42

      Breaking Bad fans on literally every episode lmao

    • @keito9158
      @keito9158 4 месяца назад +9

      @@sunvinn On this reaction series especially because every week one or both of them says something which makes you say....what?

    • @cheappoetry2798
      @cheappoetry2798 4 месяца назад +3

      @@sunvinn lmao I commented this comment the last three bb vids, because it's all I see from other comments

    • @brownsey1
      @brownsey1 4 месяца назад

      ​@@cheappoetry2798We could just make this a thing, amongst some other stuff, and it'll become like the comment section on clips of The Sopranos 😅

  • @ravenward626
    @ravenward626 4 месяца назад +2

    "Kafkaesque" where I've heard the term used the most has been in relation to nightmarish bureaucracy.

  • @MarianaGFlores
    @MarianaGFlores 4 месяца назад +4

    23:46 "Marie is a purple person, she's gonna do it"🤣😆 as a purple person myself I can vouch for Marie.

  • @pencil6965
    @pencil6965 4 месяца назад +11

    skyler is a queen lol

  • @crispy_338
    @crispy_338 4 месяца назад +62

    Ariannas contacts are wild

    • @MoManiaTV
      @MoManiaTV 4 месяца назад +13

      they're kinda hard ngl

    • @Neo6364
      @Neo6364 4 месяца назад +11

      I can't stop looking at them hah.

    • @liljackypaper
      @liljackypaper 4 месяца назад +2

      Lol someone else in the comments asked if it was the lights 😂

    • @PaiMei667
      @PaiMei667 4 месяца назад

      They look creepy, I don't like it. Looks like she is on drugs 😉

    • @Festoniaful
      @Festoniaful 4 месяца назад +10

      I was gonna say if we were skipping over the fact that Arianna just changed eye colour like a husky

  • @badrhetoric5637
    @badrhetoric5637 4 месяца назад +3

    As someone who worked in a warehouse in my youth, them not closing those totes correctly gets under my skin. It bothers me that it gets under my skin. What a good conditioned worker I am 😅

    • @jerodast
      @jerodast 3 месяца назад +1

      Mike, Workplace Safety Inspector, would be proud.

  • @millerr9307
    @millerr9307 4 месяца назад +6

    Counting cards at blackjack isn't illegal btw.

    • @the_eaglefan
      @the_eaglefan 4 месяца назад +3

      But the underground gambling halls are... And would probably end up with Walter dead by the end of season one, as odd as that seems.

    • @samuelchallis3420
      @samuelchallis3420 4 месяца назад +1

      Casinos countered it by shuffling multiple decks together to increase the randomness

    • @jerodast
      @jerodast 3 месяца назад

      @@samuelchallis3420 Which is really weird to me. Like if I'm in a card game and there are two Aces of Spades, that does not feel like a real card game. I always wondered why they didn't just rotate decks and use a freshly shuffled one on each deal, so you're just playing that hand and nothing else. Either they still want the allure of the potential to count cards between hands, or there's a policy of not reusing cards at all in case players mark cards?

  • @mathmexican4234
    @mathmexican4234 4 месяца назад +2

    I feel like ya'll will have great conversations analyzing Saul (Jimmy) and Chuck's relationship in BCS. That has some wild stuff going on.

  • @lMarcusl
    @lMarcusl 4 месяца назад +5

    Throughout the video I was intensely worried for my safety. I swear Arianna if you show up at my window tonight, I got garlic laid out all over the place and a wooden stake at hand. I'm warning you!
    On a serious note, love the post discussions, seems like you're the only reactors that go this in-depth and I can't get enough of it. Just kidding, the first paragraph was also on a serious note. I'm armed and dangerous Arianna! No bloodsucking without consent!

    • @crisrobinson3092
      @crisrobinson3092 4 месяца назад +1

      She seems like a vampire to you?

    • @lMarcusl
      @lMarcusl 4 месяца назад +3

      @@crisrobinson3092 With those piercing contacts? Hell yes.

    • @red_villain6229
      @red_villain6229 4 месяца назад

      Ya boy roshi, Sheera, and Lupa the most in depth reactors but this was one helluva post ep discussion

  • @Jjack1392
    @Jjack1392 4 месяца назад +5

    Another example why Walt is hard on Jesse, now its how much their getting paid, Jesse is dangerous for business and he is now playing with the big boys(Cartel) who will have no problem killing him. 1.25 Mill a month , common Jesse

    • @Sig509
      @Sig509 4 месяца назад +1

      yeah, you don't have to deal with cartel, crazies like Tuco, turf wars ect. basically the whole distribution part is not your problem + you have a protection. Definetly better situation they had, but nah, lets be greedy and lets not even think about the costs / risks Gus has. Like the whole laboratory so well hidden cost many millions to make, as well as the monthly expenses to run such a huge operation. Does Jesse think that Gus thugs work for free? Sure, he is making a large profit, but he is also taking most of the risks, while Walt and Jesse have like an office job by comparision.

  • @kevinschultx7673
    @kevinschultx7673 4 месяца назад +15

    I know they are not related by blood, but I wish Walter and Jesse had a better father-son relationship

  • @cactusjuice8277
    @cactusjuice8277 4 месяца назад +3

    I appreciate all the characters in this masterpiece. They're beautifully written.

  • @searthngeam
    @searthngeam 4 месяца назад +12

    Gus isn't paying these guys a lot compared to the profits, but Gus is also running a huge business. There are other people to pay, expenses, and other related business costs. Realistically, Gus would probably make not that much more than the cooks.

    • @thedarkemissary
      @thedarkemissary 4 месяца назад +5

      Especially when you consider the overhead costs, the bribes, the kickbacks, security, and contingency.
      Can't believe Jesse already forgot they only got to keep a third of their revenue when it was just him, Walt and Saul and their street corner level business.

    • @Sig509
      @Sig509 4 месяца назад +4

      not toforet the HUGE INITIAL COSTS to make the lab, and hide it so well

  • @ArianneVillareal
    @ArianneVillareal 4 месяца назад +1

    I appreciate the nuance with which y’all approach this show! Character psychoanalysis is the best, I love how much you try to understand and empathize characters ❤ my fav reaction channel for sure!

  • @erickcuevas_
    @erickcuevas_ 4 месяца назад +5

    I get where yall are coming from on yalls perspective on Skylar, and I agree. I just think it took the show a bit to figure her character out a little bit more. And I believe no one in the show is either good or bad which makes the show fun. Everyone has there reasons for what they do and why the react the way they do. Which makes this show so great. It's the thinking (what would I do in that situation). And seeing what choices the characters make and seeing where it leads them and what consequences follow. But I love the chat at the end. Keep it up❤!😊👏

    • @thedarkemissary
      @thedarkemissary 4 месяца назад

      "What would I do?" - I'd leave Walt and move in with Marie (my sister) and Hank (decorated government agent) until I got on my feet. Also, I get half the stuff in the divorce to start off. That's what I'd do. They really painting it like Skylar didn't have a choice. She did. She made bad choices. You're right. That's the whole point of the show.

  • @doncotton3367
    @doncotton3367 4 месяца назад +8

    An example of something that is Kafkaesque is Franz Kafka's short work, "The Metamorphosis". The following is the first paragraph of that piece, which should give you an idea... " One morning, when Gregor Samsa woke from troubled dreams, he found himself transformed in his bed into a horrible vermin. He lay on his armor-like back, and if he lifted his head a little he could see his brown belly, slightly domed and divided by arches into stiff sections. The bedding was hardly able to cover it and seemed ready to slide off any moment. His many legs, pitifully thin compared with the size of the rest of him, waved about helplessly as he looked."

    • @trismegistus7638
      @trismegistus7638 4 месяца назад +4

      In other works, such as *The Trial*, he heavily exaggerates the absurdity and insanity of navigating byzantine bureaucracies. That's a big part of "kafkaesque" imo. Darkly absurd dystopianism.

  • @badrhetoric5637
    @badrhetoric5637 4 месяца назад +6

    So strange in the US they argue government healthcare would mean the government is in charge. Never would there be a suit in the room getting in-between a patient and doctor in the NHS. In the UK we would tell suit to get the fuck out the room.

  • @bigpictureguys8415
    @bigpictureguys8415 4 месяца назад +3

    42:33 “but she was already done. She was already done.”
    So if you’re “done” it’s okay?
    I’m a Skylar defender but c’mon ladies

  • @Gunleaver
    @Gunleaver 4 месяца назад +2

    35:48 Rebuttal: If you think Skyler White is a good mother, good sister or good person, *you're* not looking into it enough for me.
    I hate how people write off all criticism of Skyler's actions as misogynistic or thoughtless. The difference between Skyler and other characters is that she pretends to be better than everyone else. She treats the main character like a scumbag, while cheating on him with another criminal and taking his money and refusing to let other people with a vested interest know what he is up to. She is letting her brother-in-law operate blind, instead of telling him that Walt is a meth supplier. She is letting her son see him as a hero and a victim rather than a threat. She is a person who cares more about her image and her control over her family than about their safety or about right and wrong. Plus, nearly every scene before the drugs become an issue in their marriage makes it clear she was a crappy wife, who has been fueling the rage Walt's cancer diagnosis has freed him to let out and act on. She bosses and bullies him and has no respect for his wishes or feelings or time. Skyler is controlling, prideful and greedy, EXACTLY like her husband, and rather than act in opposition, she swans around pretending she is better than him, and getting passive-aggressive with the real innocent victims in the family.

  • @herbivorethecarnivore8447
    @herbivorethecarnivore8447 Месяц назад

    25:48
    Walt getting so deeply invested in a story he supposedly already knows about will never not be funny

  • @Raczidian7
    @Raczidian7 4 месяца назад +9

    Every time I see things about the American health care system, I realise how lucky I am to have the NHS here in the UK. Might not be perfect but at least I’m not going to be broke from hospital bills. As someone with a pre-existing medical condition which affects my life daily, I can only imagine how much life must suck for people in the same situation in the US with the amount they must have to pay.

  • @mrg0th1er83
    @mrg0th1er83 4 месяца назад +3

    Skyler is great character. And the actress does a crazy good job too.

  • @TampaCEO
    @TampaCEO 4 месяца назад +1

    15:38 - I believe that's the top speed of that car. LOL!

  • @WoncoTheSane
    @WoncoTheSane 4 месяца назад +2

    I am the cockroach. Coo-coo ka-choo. :D Love you guys, great reaction as always!

  • @Josh-GT
    @Josh-GT 4 месяца назад +2

    I gotta say.. don't really care for the colored contacts. It takes away from the beautiful brown eyes that are natural. Just my opinion. It's somewhat Kafkaesque..😂✌

  • @bryanblack526
    @bryanblack526 4 месяца назад +1

    I always listen to the theme song from Natural State Transparency's channel before watching Diegesis's Breaking Bad reactions.

  • @Skullzrapper
    @Skullzrapper 4 месяца назад +3

    I love Aaron's character development this episode! Him wanting more money for cooking and then, through the story about the box he made, revealing that he's been selling himself short his entire life. Lines up so well with Walt too.

    • @red_villain6229
      @red_villain6229 4 месяца назад

      R u saying that by selling the box for weed he was selling himself short cuz I say that him not selling more boxes or monetizing a well developed skill set is where he failed to see his potential. Too caught up in what he sold it for the realize it sold.

  • @bigpictureguys8415
    @bigpictureguys8415 4 месяца назад

    18:35 that’s a good teacher.
    The wooden box acts like a metaphor of Jesse’s life choices up to this point.

  • @TheRepublican777
    @TheRepublican777 4 месяца назад +1

    Ted didn't realize she has not told anyone about them

  • @kiintro
    @kiintro 4 месяца назад +1

    I wouldn't doubt people use this method as a way to transport illicit merchandise.

  • @silentassason
    @silentassason 4 месяца назад +1

    37:38 i don't know how that train started but that was a wild ride

  • @bigpictureguys8415
    @bigpictureguys8415 4 месяца назад +1

    Those contacts are insane 😂

  • @chrisgonzalez869
    @chrisgonzalez869 4 месяца назад +2

    Poor Ted. Getting ghosted ain’t fun at all

  • @chrisadraheim
    @chrisadraheim 4 месяца назад +2

    I semi-recently complained to a friend about the insane Skyler-haters, and he responded along the lines of "My first time watching I hated her, but I was 14 years old at the time". Not sure what's wrong with the people still worked up a decade later. Yeah, there's stuff to criticize her for, but come on, the only pure souls on this show are Walt Jr. and Hugo the janitor.

    • @cpob2013
      @cpob2013 4 месяца назад +1

      Huell is a hero, savin all them oldsters from the fire down in Louisiana way

  • @bolasblancas420
    @bolasblancas420 4 месяца назад +1

    The animation of “a country doctor” from Franz Kafka is pretty good.

  • @craigmerryfull7704
    @craigmerryfull7704 4 месяца назад +6

    were Ariana's eyes always blue? am i losing my mind?

    • @Diegesis
      @Diegesis  4 месяца назад +3

      you've already lost your mind... woOoooOOOoooo... ;)

    • @SovereignJoh
      @SovereignJoh 4 месяца назад

      she forgot her brown contacts for this video

    • @craigmerryfull7704
      @craigmerryfull7704 4 месяца назад +1

      I like to think of it as misplaced.@@Diegesis

    • @bigpictureguys8415
      @bigpictureguys8415 4 месяца назад

      Bro seriously?

  • @jerodast
    @jerodast 3 месяца назад +1

    Loved the commentary at the end, and I feel you on not getting hung up so much on "do I like / dislike what X is doing" or picking favorites. I don't get as much into "what is the core of their personality that makes them act this way" or "how did they get this way" outside of what is directly show, because in the end - they're made-up people. They had no actual childhood that made them this way, so it's a little too hypothetical for me. I focus more on what patterns show in what they do on screen, and how that suggests an overall personality type, motivations, or situational cause and effect. Depending on the writing that can sometimes be dead obvious, but it feels more translatable to real-world people than like, deep psychoanalysis.

  • @PhatLayCes7825
    @PhatLayCes7825 4 месяца назад +8

    Ladies, you made my day. Appreciate your in- depth and the character analysis. The best is yet to come.

  • @cathyaldridge4550
    @cathyaldridge4550 4 месяца назад +1

    What a wonderful reaction. I especially LOVED your comments about Skylar. I cannot understand the hate for her at all. She's just a normal person in anything but normal circumstances. Fascinating stuff.

  • @magnaremora
    @magnaremora 4 месяца назад +1

    If anyone ever read a Kafka literature, you'll probably get depressed, lol.

  • @bigpictureguys8415
    @bigpictureguys8415 4 месяца назад +1

    23:05 “nah go ahead, this is what we do.”
    Actually it’s not. 😆
    Maybe if they’re in a group therapy session but in NA/AA you don’t just jump in during someone’s share like that.

    • @Diegesis
      @Diegesis  4 месяца назад +1

      lol fair point

  • @Boba_Brett
    @Boba_Brett 4 месяца назад +1

    15:59 Not the Tokyo Drift. 😂

  • @dahwitzz
    @dahwitzz 4 месяца назад +1

    yeh i totally relate to seeing things thru a psychological, behavioral lens. It sucks that Skylar hate is so ubiquitous that you cant delve into the nuances of it all. Skylar is definitely a complex character, and seems to cope by needing to control situations (which is very common lmao). Misogyny is wild lmao people take it so far

  • @twoheart7813
    @twoheart7813 4 месяца назад +5

    I can't hate someone that doesn't exist. The characters are figments of writers imaginations brought to life by actors. Sure, I get emotional, invested but I never take who does what serious enough to get personal about it. The characters in any great series have certain redeeming factors no matter how disgusting they can be, its just part of what makes the show interesting.

  • @Crazy_Diamond_75
    @Crazy_Diamond_75 24 дня назад

    That wasn't a bell pepper, that was a habanero. 😆

  • @Jjack1392
    @Jjack1392 4 месяца назад +4

    cant wait for your BB reactions

  • @pinkithink3757
    @pinkithink3757 4 месяца назад +1

    I think most people really don’t care about Skyler or have any particular animosity towards her but the ones who do make it their job to be the loudest most redundant obnoxious ppl in any comment section

  • @bigpictureguys8415
    @bigpictureguys8415 4 месяца назад

    16:01 Walt pulling a bojack driving with the pedal down & eyes closed.

  • @Jjack1392
    @Jjack1392 4 месяца назад +3

    yea, fried breaded pepper rings, delicious

  • @Jaysolate
    @Jaysolate 4 месяца назад +1

    1.25 mil a year isn't alot? I need whatever weed she's getting because ain't no way

  • @jarodsmith6890
    @jarodsmith6890 4 месяца назад +1

    @23:57 Maple: "I remember Walter wearing his glasses up on his head, not behind his ear."
    @24:20 Glasses switched to way up high. and back and forth throughout the rest of the scene.
    You two are always so observant, and in this case, point out an inconsistency in the edit.

  • @SlZIJI
    @SlZIJI 4 месяца назад +2

    If you want kafkaesque, check out Terry Gilliams Brazil.

  • @dahartluke8438
    @dahartluke8438 4 месяца назад +1

    $1.25 million a month is not a lot of money? I cant let that slide, what a ludicrous statement lol

  • @ernestorodriguez791
    @ernestorodriguez791 4 месяца назад +1

    I would be down for that crazy ass podcast

  • @Sig509
    @Sig509 4 месяца назад +1

    This is just so silly for Jesse to get all greedy now. I mean seriously, they had a good deal (as far as they knew the cartel-Gus situation at the time::
    - state of the art laboratory perfectly hidden, and if you will ever go and see Better Call Saul we will see there how much effort it took to construct it
    - huge operation, that has been working for like 20 years without any clue from the police
    - protection, not having to deal with crazies like Tuco, not being involved with turf wars, not selling directly, not worrying if they will have required ingridients to cook ect. Just a clean deal - make me x-amount per week, and you are able even to choose the hours
    Just consider the initial costs Gus had to take to make this operation happen, and how many people he employs in his crime syndicate, and you will see the huge monthly costs he has. Sure, he makes a profit, a huge one, but also he literally is taking most of the risk and has to deal with dangerous people.
    You are just cooking, that is like an office job by comparision of the risk you were previously taking, where just at the beginning they had to kill two dudes in self defence.
    Lay low, and earn for as long as you want. Safely. Now an exit from the business is a completely different thing, and might be difficult, but if a knowledge transfer is made reasonably well, Gus would let them go eventually.
    Also the show takes place in like 2009 at this point I think, so that's 2009 dollars. Even today over a million dollars is a lot of money, but 15 years ago it was even more than today.
    Not to mention tha Gus WHAS NOT DEALING IN NEW MEXICO! That was one of the points of his operation to not deal drugs in his home state. And here comes Jesse dealing the blue here risking 20 years of covering an empire...

    • @bigpictureguys8415
      @bigpictureguys8415 4 месяца назад

      Spoiler….
      ….
      People always seem to forget Jessie was the domino that cast everything into hell. Everything was fine until Jesse tried to kill Gus’s guys for revenge. After that point Gus was trying to eliminate them.

  • @amberalexandria957
    @amberalexandria957 3 месяца назад

    It’s funny how Mabel says that your hate for Walt and Skyler shouldn’t consume every thought! Because her hate for Walt does nothing but consume her every thought about him and everything he does every time he’s on screen!😂

  • @Gojeto346
    @Gojeto346 Месяц назад

    I genuinely believe it Walt had confronted Skylar before he started cooking and gave her the game plan, she probably would’ve been down to help and even launder the money herself. But since she was kept out of it and lied to, we have Breaking Bad.

  • @bigpictureguys8415
    @bigpictureguys8415 4 месяца назад +1

    2:48 Jesse is such a child. The deal is the deal. They aren’t operating in a typical business environment.
    If they were in a better position to negotiate they should/could/would. But they’re not at this moment.

  • @suzannesmith4882
    @suzannesmith4882 4 месяца назад +1

    You are so right on that aaron paul is the king of monologue. He is such an amazing actor and you ain't seen nuthin yet!

  • @magnuskarlsson8655
    @magnuskarlsson8655 4 месяца назад +1

    I think the reason why people "hate" Skyler is her hypocritical/sanctimonious attitude. She's always grandstanding - and even when she's not, her unpleasant personality makes it seem like she is - even though she herself has agreed to become a criminal for her boss with whom she's also cheating on her husband. She's playing with her boss's feelings in order to get back at her husband and then ghosts him when she's done with him while at the same time expecting him to be okay with it and to not even ask her when she's coming back to work, etc. What Walt is doing is objectively worse, but cooking meth in a show about cooking meth is not going to rub people the wrong way compared to a basic, stuck-up and sanctimonious character like Skyler.

  • @SuzakuX
    @SuzakuX 4 месяца назад +1

    I think you're pretty spot on about Walt's psychology. They only hint at it a few times during the show, but the implications are that his father died when he was very young and left him as the man of the house, that his mother held his father in very high esteem and was not a pleasant person, and that he was never able to live up to this ideal of masculinity that was his father, who he never actually knew apart from visiting him in the hospital. Little details like Walt telling Jesse to start the generator by pulling "not like a girl" and knowing that his mother was the main parental figure in his life, suggests that she probably emasculated him.
    Couple that with his obviously narcissistic tendencies, elevating his own personal accomplishments and worth above his peers while also deflecting his own personal failures by creating a personal narrative of victimization. We know that the real story is that he left Gretchen on his own terms because he felt inadequate compared to her brothers and father, and that he left Gray Matter abruptly to ghost her, not because he was forced out or tricked to sell his shares (this is also all one-sided, as Gretchen and Elliot say they both consider the money for his cancer treatment money that was rightfully his, but he still regarded it as charity). Consider also that he obviously had several subsequent career setbacks, to such a degree that despite his brilliance, he was only able to find consistent work as a high school chemistry teacher and part-time cashier.
    So he clearly burned a lot of professional bridges after the one-sided falling out with Elliot and Gretchen, and we can surmise both from where he wound up, and his professional relationships with Gus, Jesse, Gale, etc., that a lot of that was probably motivated by his narcissistic need to be in charge, to have others acquiesce to his expertise and simply follow his directions. Working in research and labs he likely encountered a lot of people who were actual intellectual peers and superiors, and likely butted heads with people who he perceived as intellectually inferior but who had seniority and authority over him. Gale's recounting of "The Learn'd Astronomer," to which he seemed to relate, gives some further credence to the idea that he was good at the science but couldn't handle the interpersonal relationship aspects of a career in science.
    Vince Gilligan has also referred to Walt as a sociopath, but I think more likely he simply has narcissistic personality disorder, which can be characterized by a similar lack of empathy.

  • @mrcody1924
    @mrcody1924 4 месяца назад +2

    Skylar to walt: omg how could you lie to me?
    Skylar to marie: *here lemme lie to you*
    This is why i dislike skylar lol

  • @PaulMason99
    @PaulMason99 4 месяца назад +1

    There's a psychology of a TV audience that's really interesting and BB is my goto example. Walt is objective terrible person. And he's designed to be that way. Gilligan will tell you how awful Walt is. And yet, simply because he's the Main Character in a TV show, well acted, well written, he becomes fascinating to watch, and ultimately someone to root for. So people like him. And Skylar, who is spiky and annoying in her manner, and does things wrong (cheating), but nowhere near as bad as Walt (murder, meth). BUT she's constantly an obstacle to Walt's plan. That's her dramatic purpose in the plot. So she gets hate because she stands in the way of the "hero" Walt's plans.

  • @oatdilemma6395
    @oatdilemma6395 4 месяца назад +9

    I want Maple to whisper Spanish in my ears

  • @dominicstark6318
    @dominicstark6318 4 месяца назад +1

    You're absolutely right about Skylar. Well written character like all of them are and it's too easy to just hate her.

  • @imadubsfan1
    @imadubsfan1 3 месяца назад

    Regarding Walt Jr., I don't think Skyler cares for Walt's reputation to be tainted. I just think she cares about the ramifications and family dynamics to ensue afterwards. It will affect everyone's lives even if nobody finds out about the wrongdoings/illegal stuff Skyler did. This is later proven in a later episode that Walter protects the family while Skyler protects the family from him.

  • @yingfortheking
    @yingfortheking 4 месяца назад +2

    loving the in-depth analysis! I think yall would love Bocchi the Rock! as a fun anime for introverts!

  • @totallyflared
    @totallyflared 4 месяца назад

    Need that podcast now‼️

  • @jrrey_
    @jrrey_ 4 месяца назад +1

    I think the ladies did a nice job of digging into Skyler’s motivation’s. In the context of her character it makes sense. I’d like to see them do the same for Walt, with the understanding that you can understand a character’s motivations while still disagreeing with them.

    • @jrrey_
      @jrrey_ 4 месяца назад +1

      Also I want to point out that Jesse, in a way, gives us a clue as to why he always goes back to working with Walt. When he speaks about the teacher that challenged him to do better. Contrast that with how Jesse’s own father treats him. Also you notice that Jesse doesn’t want anything to do with Walt until Walt lets him know that his meth is just as good. He’s just looking for a supportive “father figure”.

  • @nathanlindahl8336
    @nathanlindahl8336 4 месяца назад +1

    Ariana looks FREAKY with those blue contacts lol WTF

    • @Arenem88
      @Arenem88 4 месяца назад

      lol true true. She looking kind of bad with them though

  • @MICHAELASHER.
    @MICHAELASHER. 4 месяца назад +1

    An example of Frank Kafka quote: We are the result of God having a bad day.

    • @jerodast
      @jerodast 3 месяца назад

      God on the first Sunday: "I've made a huge mistake."
      (It's Arrested Kafka.)

  • @jxchamb
    @jxchamb 4 месяца назад +2

    Wait a sec. Hank is supposed to only be 43?? He looks 10 years older than me. Not 4 years younger.

    • @handsomesquidward5160
      @handsomesquidward5160 4 месяца назад +1

      Being a cop/dea agent is stressful

    • @Diegesis
      @Diegesis  4 месяца назад +3

      i actually think hank looks good, he's just outta shape. walt drastically looks older and younger to me throughout the series.

    • @mappes1
      @mappes1 4 месяца назад

      Dean Norris has the patrick steward syndrome. If you watch him in other roles, he basically looks the same agewise.

    • @Diegesis
      @Diegesis  4 месяца назад

      lol

  • @bigpictureguys8415
    @bigpictureguys8415 4 месяца назад

    25:50 that look by Walter 😂

  • @chrisadraheim
    @chrisadraheim 4 месяца назад +1

    Skyler's always been Ride or Die for Walt, she just won't admit it to herself. At this point she has long had the ability to go to the police or to Hank and end everything, but instead chooses to protect from the law and even from his family's judgment, both very much at her own expense, and at the risk that she clearly can't guarantee he's protected from either consequence. She's willing to be the bad guy, she's willing to be at least an enabler, if not an accomplice. Walt and Skyler are both clinging to an idea of themselves they don't want to let go of that keeps them from seeing they're meant to be Bonnie and Clyde.

    • @cpob2013
      @cpob2013 4 месяца назад

      Ride or die? Do you remember the most emasculating hand job ever put on television?