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Breaking Bad 3x10 'Fly' | Maple and Arianna React
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- Опубликовано: 3 авг 2024
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Join Maple and Arianna for a gripping reaction to "Breaking Bad" Season 3, Episode 10, titled "Fly." This episode is a standout in the series, offering viewers a deep dive into the psyche of Walter White and Jesse Pinkman. Known for its unique setting and introspective nature, "Fly" is often regarded as one of the series' most polarizing yet profoundly impactful episodes. Watch as Maple and Arianna navigate through the tension-filled lab scenes, where Walt becomes obsessed with a contaminant that threatens his perfect meth batch. Their reaction captures the intensity and emotional depth of the episode, highlighting the brilliant performances by Bryan Cranston and Aaron Paul.
As they discuss the episode's themes of guilt, obsession, and the quest for control, Maple and Arianna provide insights into the characters' motivations and the episode's significance within the broader narrative of "Breaking Bad." Whether you're a longtime fan or experiencing the series for the first time, their reaction adds a fresh perspective to one of the show's most memorable episodes.
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00:00 - Intro
00:10 - Reaction
27:55 - Review
I think the only reason this episode is controversial is because it’s all character development, when some of the audience just wants drugs and violence and totally miss the point
Exactly. Most of the people that hated this episode are into obvious and easy watching films and series. This episode is pure masterclass. Not for every audience that is for sure...
The show isn't about violence, drugs, or cancer. It's about change(just as Walter describes in his first teaching scene). It's a character study in morality as we see them act and react to pressure and time, and ultimately a redemption story for a man who was throwing away his life as drug dealer(Jesse).
Explain what actual character development occurs, no new info is shared of the characters, we just see more of walt's manipulation and neuroticism, particularly self-doubt and regret.
Nothing new happens developmentally for the characters. You could skip this episode and you'd miss zero character context needed for the rest of the show, even the end with Walt's warning about stealing, that had already been brought up.
It sucks, and BB fans can't change my mind, I love the show too, but a dud is a dud
@@AboveAverageGamer1I think that’s a surface level analysis, and no I don’t really feel like elaborating. To each their own
It was less about "wanting drugs and violence" and more about how the actual story came to a complete halt.. plus the episode sticks out like a sore thumb and it took some viewers time to let things marinate, myself included..
"If I'd lived until that moment and not a second more" and his crying
Walter mourned his former self in this episode and from here is just kind of careening down the slippery slope without recourse
god damn that line gave me chills this time around, it doesn't usually
was this...the moment Walter became Heisenberg?
@@mcgfn Walter became Heisenberg a long time ago. This is just him having a rare moment of vulnerability and mourning the man he used to be.
This episode didn't grab when I first watched it but on subsequent rewatches I've learned to appreciate just how great it is.
The fly represents walters conscience how he can never really escape his guilt.
The fly constantly escaping represents Walter not being able to escape
Conscience*
@@godmagnusnah bro the conscience one makes more sense
"It's all contaminated."
Lmao. No it does not.
the way jesse takes care of walt in this episode really makes me feel a lot. he realises that hes not doing well or thinking clearly and starts treating him how i imagine he treated his aunt ginny when her cancer spread to her brain. going along with whatever they say and gently trying to push them in the direction of healthier decisions (taking a walk, sleeping, drinking water). despite how clumsy it occasionally is, you can really see how deeply jesse cares for walt in this episode, and how caring he is as a person in general. its really really fascinating as a character study of them both.
The fly represents his inability to control everything in his life, especially his guilt. He's obsessing over the fact that he can't fool or control Skylar, imagining that there is something he could have said or done in the past that would make the present OK, never considering that everything askew in his world comes from his decision to cook meth. That's his perfect moment.
BTW, isn't a raisin lying on the floor a sign of contamination (a non-clean lab) as a fly?
The raisin drives me crazy! Why are you eating in a meth lab? Why is there a coffee machine? Isn't it unsafe lab practice to eat in the lab? & yeah obviously the food would "contaminate" the product as well, AND he's been trying to kill this thing & remove all contamination, how did he not find it before that moment?
One of the best episodes in the entire series. A study of Walt's internalized state at halftime. The Fly represents many things.
All animals have a neurological processing speed which directs how quickly they see the world. Smaller animals typically have a faster one, which means they are able to collect, process, and react to information much faster than us. It's the reason they're almost always able to fly away right before you swat them. Essentially, flies see time slower than we do, but can move quicker.
“It’s all contaminated.”
"I hate when people interrupt stories being told" *proceeds to continuously interupt the story* lmao
most controversial episode of the entire series? im down and cant wait for this shit! i personally loved it but can see why people didnt.
What's "controversial" about it?
@@lonzinater1this is the most hated episode in the entire series and the lowest rated on every site or group you could ask. some people love it, a lot of people hate it.
@@BobTheSkull That's interesting, I don't understand why.
@@lonzinater1It's a bottle episode, they made it cheap (shooting in one location) to save money.
That said, I like the episode.
@@lonzinater1some people hate bottle episodes and the episode is slow at times. but its all to build up the tension and let the actors have some fun with their characters. this episode would be nowhere near as good if walt and jesse werent such good fucking actors.
This was basically the last shred of humanity we see from Walt. When he says “it’s all contaminated he means himself and he accepts it”
"It's all contaminated."
Colossal OOF, my guy.
I bet the girls are gonna dig this one. Not a lot happens event-wise but the episode is a massive window into the mentality of the characters and the girls are definitely into more of that, based on the last episode's discussion alone.
People like to foget Jane blackmailed Heisenberg. What did you expect?
This episode was divisive but it's one of my favorites.
We get to see the two best actors on the show play off one another. And we get rare insight into Walt's state of mind.
Fun fact: it aired the same night as the finale of Lost.
I think it was initially divisive for two reasons 1) since this show aired weekly people had to wait two weeks for the overall bigger plot to move forward 2) people forgot that even though this show has action the drug trade is primarily used for character study and development (regressive and progressive)
I remember watching Fly episode, and Lost episode same day. How good that "boring" Fly episode was, and how boring this epic Lost episode was.
Jane's addiction was Perry Farrell's fault.
Who?
jane's addiction... hmm
Well done. You get one internet cookie.
But it did spawn Porno for Pyros.
This episode is truly legendary. It was made like this to save some budget, Breaking Bad was struggling with money at this time, they only used 1 set (the lab) pretty much relying on dialogue. But what they did with minimal resources was pure art. 99.1% pure art that now is studied in cinematography classes.
Waltuh when fly:
@@MapleDivinewaltuh, the fly waltuh. Get the fly waltuh
I get what you guys are saying… but sometimes it’s almost like you two don’t understand that humans can be conflicted lol
Walt went from being an ordinary guy… to receiving the WORST news of his life… then becoming involved in a very stressful and EXTREMELY high risk drug game. There has to be a transitional period. Humans and our emotions are nuanced. You keep saying “just commit to your bit OR be a good person”. That wouldn’t make sense if the show is about his decent into becoming almost unrecognizable from his former self. His character goes back and forth between showing some sense of self awareness, guilt …. But also being stubborn, narcissistic, prideful etc. because this is how you write nuanced characters lol humans aren’t just black and white. You take any person and flip their world upside down and put them in a “fish out of water” and near death situation…. And yeah I’d imagine they’d have trouble “committing to their bit” lol Walter at this point isn’t deep in the game like GUS…. Gus has had time to be who he is offscreen. With Walt we get a front row seat.
Is Walt making terrible decisions? Yes. But it’s understandable he would be conflicted between not wanting to cook…. But feeling like he needs to for whatever reasons the audience once to perceive, good or bad.
The genius of this episode is the his nerosis is 100% caused by Jesse skimming, which causes him to break bad further. It's a real push pull, for sure.
Yes, a lot of people see walt's emotions as guilt in this episode but it's actually neurotic over worrying due to his coworker stealing from their murderous boss and his regretting his lack of control in his past dealings. He's not regretting the damage done, just regretting not being in control of the fallout
You made me spit out my drink, Maple 😂😂😂. You are correct though, this is what no 🐱 does to a man 😂
Saying walt is a murderer for janes death is kinda silly, in one hand yeah he couldve saved her but in the other he's not the one who stuck the needle in her arm. She couldve rolled over in her sleep without him being there trying to wake jesse
fine then he's a murderer cause of crazy 8.
@@Diegesiskilling crasy 8 was a self defense
@@Dahmen-ll8cd killing a captive ain't self defense lmao, even with them trying to kill walt and jesse to begin with, and the shard of plate. self defense has a line.
@wavehellhole well the line was crossed when walt was about to set him free, and crazy 8 tried to stab him with the shard of plate , what walt did 8s a self defense and there is no other option in that dangerous situation
not true. if walt wanted to use self defense as an excuse, he'd have to explain why he didnt jut call the police and turn himself in. self defense doesn't excuse you for killing inconvenient people.
I think the fly represents the last vestige of Walt's conscience that he's trying to rid himself of, something tainting him from being able to move forward with his life of crime, brought on by his inability to reconcile his role in the events of Jane's death and the aftermath.
One of the more overlooked episodes and its a goddamn crime. Dialogue driven and deeper character diving and I fucking love it. Shit gets dialed up to 30 after this episode and its a welcome moment of preparedness.
What makes you think it was overlooked?
Figure it out yourself. You already know the answer @@lonzinater1
"Jane's Addiction?" What's pop music got to do with "Breaking Bad?"
"how do you explain the coincidence of him sitting down with Jane's dad" they wrote it that way lol
lol yeah basically
Yeah this is why I can never get too philosophical or psychoanalytical about fiction, even though it can be fun. The thing happened because the writers said so. The characters acted that way because the writers said so. It's only compelling if you can relate events to real world happenings and characterizations - and luckily Breaking Bad has plenty of that!
@@jerodast well put, couldn't agree more!
Or maybe it was the closest bar to the duplex! 😂
It’s not just karma, he reacts to flies that way because he’s haunted, can’t get right with his life, his regrets are for life
god, walt's "i'm sorry" breaks me every time
The fly as a met[h]aphor was perfect, in my opinion. On face value it represents contamination of the lab, but then also the contamination of Walt's mind: his guilt about everything to do with the trade he's now involved in, what he can and can't control, and also the guilt over what happened with Jane. The fly coming back in S5 adds another layer, or several haha, but I would be spoiling stuff if I explained what I mean.
What's Walt's favorite baseball team?
I thought these two just said they wanted to have deep conversations about each characters' psyche but focused on hating Walter instead of analyzing what was really happening.
I can never tell if this definition of "hate" comes from oversensitivity or misinterpretation.
I understand why people wouldn't like this one
but as someone who loves character studies, this episode is my favorite
This is the first of three episodes of the series directed by Rian Johnson (Knives Out, The Last Jedi, Glass Onion). The 3rd episode he directs might just be the greatest episode of series television ever produced.
common misconception but the name is the episode is actually referring the the sick air Mr. White got off of the top ropes
Yes the fly is a metaphor his talk with Gus, what Skyler said,Jane and her dad's death hanging over him death it's self is coming for him and he knows what Jesse is doing can get Jesse killed knowing how Gus is now it's just all getting to him now
I usually have fun watching this episode and its goofy moments, it's usually a nice little funny break for reactors. But my lord ya'll sucked the fun right out of it with your endless critique of Walt.
Hearing about Jane's dad killing himself is upsetting him I don't think Jesse heard about it yet though
This longer episode came at the right time. Currently sitting at an airport waiting for a delayed flight. Thank you for the awesome insightful content. Really enjoying the reaction to Breaking Bad.
As a guy I'm not sitting there listening to a long winded story without knowing it has a valid point that you needed to tell a long a*s story for
Loved this episode from an acting, writing, cinematic, and directorial standpoint.
Put ya stick awey Waltuh,
I'm not swattin' flies with yu right now.
The girls want Walt to commit to being a bad guy. Hmm. Might have to revisit this thought at some point.
The Fly is low-key a top 5 BB episode for me.
One thing that people miss about this episode is how important this is for the story and future events that will happen , this bottle episode was just made to make jesse and walter connection stronger and deeper its the heart and soul of this season and helps to explain why they will take the decisions later on , i love this episode
“I understand why they are showing this to us”
Well judging by the reaction I would say that no, you dont actually.
I always interpreted Walter's struggle with the fly, something that Jesse sees as insignificant, is representative of his struggle to ignore the fact that he knows Jesse is skimming product. Jesse thinks he is being careful by stealing small amounts, but Walter is far too detail oriented to miss it. Their argument over the fly is a proxy for their argument over Jesse's skimming.
And Jesse is all concerned thinking his cancer is back in his brain
Have been creeped out by flies since seeing the Jeff Goldblum, Geena Davis 1986 movie 'The Fly' and its predecessors. And this episode did not assuage that feeling.🤣
"I hate it when people do that" (on Walt asking Jessie what the point of his story was) followed by "this episode feels oddly cryptic".
The episode that proves Walt is just a normal guy in over his head.
he's not necessarily a normal guy cause he's a genius with math and chemistry but he thinks being an expert in those field somehow translates to being an expert in the crime world. he also assumed incorrectly that the crime world would be full of Jesse's but he's run into a Gus and wasn't ready.
@@Diegesis Yeah. I said he was in over his head. Thinking he's smarter than other people in a field not his own. Normal guy behavior. Know this one guy who thought he could cook cause he watched a lot of Food Network. Made a mess of my kitchen.
Hahaha yeah i watched too much forged in fire and thought for a minute about trying to make swords. lol
A real psychopath and a Hollywood psychopath are two completely different things. A real psychopath's behavioural traits begin in childhood and carry through life with varying degrees of escalation. Some become killers, some become race car drivers, mountaineers, surgeons or CEOs. They're all narcissists with no loyalty to anyone but themselves. If Walter were a real psychopath, he'd leave Skyler and his little family without a second thought. And Jesse too. It's important to realize that psychopaths don't care because they can't care -- those brain parts responsible for what we recognize as making us most human are volumetrically reduced in them. Intervention may be possible only in adolescence when the brain is still growing, but the jury's still out on that. A Hollywood psychopath is just a convenient way of telling a story when you don't need any scientific data to back up what you're talking about -- the word is thrown around like a tennis ball and can be used in all sorts of ways. It sounds good, but reality is a lot more frightening, not to mention deadly. Determining who is and who is not a psychopath is a laborious process in which the whole life is taken into account. I really enjoy you guys. Sorry, no storage boxes this time.
Psychopathy isn't even a real diagnosis you can get, it's called ASPD, minors can't get diagnosed with ASPD, they are diagnosed with conduct disorder. ASPD is not NPD.
You aren't helping like you think you are and are spouting off a lot of BS.
Walt finds the "certain words in a certain specific order that would explain all of this", eventually.
This Superlab is NOT OSHA compliant
Mike, Workplace Safety Inspector, does not approve. We need some lift belts up in this bitch.
Need these sooner than a week apart!🥰
Heroin murdered Jane. Walter didn't save her. He probably would have saved her if she hadn't threatened to burn him to the ground. Could u imagine if someone said that to Gus ?
Whats the difference between intentionally not saving someone from dying when you know you could, and murdering them yourself?
@@Johnspartan296 idk ask Batman from "Batman Begins - I'm not killing... but I'm not gonna save u." He pulled the same shit
@@Josh86_925 Yeah, and in any good court of law, batman would've been tried for manslaughter AT BEST, since he was directly responsible for Ras Al Ghuls death
I didn't remember how much I liked this episode. A lot of people don't like it, and use the reason of being a "bottle episode", but I think it feels like a perfect retrospective break for the show and it was done at the perfect time.
He is letting Jesse know that Jesse is being a problem right now stealing and they can die because of it
PENGUINS? Well that's it, we're done here.
Seems a bit dishonest to claim that it would be better if Walt committed to being a bad person, not only because it's contradictory to claim that more bad actions can be a good thing, but also because he would then neglect his family obligations (more than he already does) which I'm sure would make you judge him more rather than less. It's also dishonest to compare Walt to Jessie who doesn't have any real family, which makes it easy to accept that he's "the bad guy" and to go "all in", that is, Walt having a family and caring for that family, necessitates such hypocrisy of leading a double life and having to deal with the cognitive dissonance of thinking you're a good person while doing bad things. Saying that it would be better if he accepted that he's the bad guy means it would be better for Walt who would be free from cognitive dissonance, but worse for everyone else, including but not limited to his family.
Second best episode of the show and a straight up masterclass in acting from them both. They could show this episode in every acting class. Really, really stellar performances and writing and directing and editing and sound design and lighting and just...perfect.
I can remember bingeing this show & when i saw this episode I was FLOORED at how good it was! It was such a shock to find out most people DONT like this episode :(
Super controversial but out of everywhere to place "blame" for Jane, but I've always seen it a strictly Jessie's fault. Walt can be partially blamed for her choking, but she was clean and doing good until... Jessie brought drugs, kinda like the N.a. meetings
Jessie is undeniably a "better" person than Walt until he isn't and its tend to be looked over a lot cuz Walt's fuggin nuts. Walt preys on anyone, but Jessie goes after the weak time and time again.
I agree, although Jessie told her to go away when he was going to start using, and she decided to stay.
As Jessie said to Walt no one is to blame, they all 3 are equally responsible for her death.
well jesse told her to leave and she made the choice to stay. the person who directly killed jane is walt. it’s made clear that jane always made sure she slept on her side. if walter hadn’t done what he did, jane wouldn’t have rolled onto her back. and when she starts choking on her vomit, walt has the obvious chance to save her and he chooses not to. purely as a strategical move. it is definitely, directly walter’s fault.
@@pestobitchI'm sorry, but making sure to sleep on your side is addict logic. Once you go to sleep, you're not conscious of what your body does. I wake up during the night, and it's rarely in the position I was in before I fell asleep. Unless she did something to guarantee she couldn't physically change positions (which would mean Walt couldn't have gotten her on her back as easily as it happened) then she has no guarantee that she will not change sleeping positions while she's unconscious.
Walter didn’t murder Jane the junkie. He just chose not to save her. She killed herself.
He turned her on her back, then let her stay that way as she choked to death. If he only turned her on her back and she choked later, you could call it an accidental contributing factor. If she was already on her back and he watched as she died, you could call him simply a negligent bystander. But he did both. The writers made a very obvious choice to have Walter do both of those things. Takes a strong level of denial to insist on a different meaning to that scene. We can debate his motivations for doing so - I'm strongly on the side of "he tried to decide what to do but couldn't, and inertia gave the win to the devil on his shoulder" - but there is nothing to debate about his actions, it's right there on the screen.
Yup they are both so frustrating and the lack of communication and stubbornness of both of them
This was totally a filler episode and ended up being one of the most entertaining in the whole series.
First time I watched this I didn't understand the point. But at the rewatch I think this is one of my favorites. Because here you see Walt honest for once and emotional
I wasn't sure how I felt about this episode when it aired because the storyline came to a screeching halt, but the character development is elite.. Fly grew to become one of my favorite episodes.. it's like a psychological horror film lol..
First the Avs shirt, now a RETRO Penguins jersey? Had no idea Arianna had hockey swag. Love it!
Also, another great reaction! Can’t wait for the rest of Season 3.
I always thought the fly in the ointment so to speak was Jessie. He sees jessie as a problem, even after he puts the gas mask on his head he resembles a fly, and that if it wasn't for Jessie Hank wouldn't have found Tuco, he never wouldn't have to make the up the fugue state lie, wouldn't have caused skylar to be suspicious, not miss the birth of his daughter and wouldn't have caused Jane's death, and the twins would never have tried to shoot Hank.
Hes got some skills yo🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
9:21 Arianna might not know what "bet" means lmao
Making this deal with Gus really made him feel good and wanted with the best product out there this is his best potential i think that was when Walt started doing it for himself because he likes it it makes him feel good because he is the best at it and you understand that knowing what happened with the grey matter situation
I still feel this is top 5 best episodes of the series
I bounced off this episode on my first watch through. Restarted the series a few years later and finally finished it.
Realized you didn't miss out on much other than an hour wasted?
This is a top 5 episode of the series.
One of my favorite episodes. Good reaction.
Fly 🪰, my beloved
Are Maple and Ariana on the spectrum? I’m not saying that to be insulting I just notice they are easily disturbed y sounds 😂
😀
@@MapleDivineI am not convinced you are the REAL Maple....🧐
I hated this episode on first watch 😂😅 completely killed the momentum for me personally despite sure the Jane stuff being pretty terrifying As he almost told Jesse… on Second watch tho, this episode is a masterpiece and one of my favourites in the series 😅 Damnit Rian Johnson
“This is what no 🐱 does to a man.”
Holy shit, Maple. That’s so rude, yet so true. 😂😂🤣
kinda facts tho lol
That is the best summary of this episode I have seen lol, everyone can interpret it how they want and see what they want to see but at the end of the day it is just a filler episode.
Based on your reaction to flies, you guys should totally watch The Fly: 1986 classic horror film by David Cronenberg, starring Jeff Goldblum.
lol
the starbucks drink is kinda disappointing considering you're giving cash to the company funding a genocide
This type of episode reminds me of a play. It's really well done here.
And i don't know if Jesse realizes that Walt is talking about Jesse being his family that he isn't giving up on
Yes cause and effect in this series is so crazy
This is the really the turning point of the whole show imo
Unquestionably the best directed episode of this show
This was my favorite episode when I first watched it. It was the moment I knew this show was really trying to say something, rather than just being sensational, binge-worthy entertainment. The series is such a potent commentary/study on modern American masculinity. I love how in depth your post discussions get! Feels like the kind of rants my friends and I get into.
21:40 oh my god just let a scene play out 🤦🏼♂️. Cheese & rice
2:23 there was “extra” yes (totaled over 200 pounds), but it’s still skimming/stealing either way.
You're totally right that letting Jane die was criminal and heartless. But I haven't heard you touch up on the reason he did it. Of course, some of the reason was that she threatened him, but she was no longer a threat to him, at least not yet... But I like to believe that the reason he let her die was the same as the one he went there, to save Jesse from that junkie fate. I think he thought that he was sacrificing Jane for the good of Jesse. And the crazy thing about it, he might have been right. We don't know of course, but they could have both gone down the path of overdose. I'm not saying it was the right decision, I'm just saying that the intention is... commendable for the lack of a better word.
I love this episode guys.
Very interesting and noteable scene of Jesse killing the fly
I like the Pens jersey. Go Isles! 😂
Great show watched it multiple times
The best part is in reality the fly wasn't real so Jesse (Aaron Paul) expecting it to be fake is kinda justified.
I always loved this episode.
Walt seems to expose the daddy issues in these two
We won't ever know if Jane would've lived or died. Walter not helping was fųčƙėd up but she was making prison threats & that's a no no in the drug business. Jane should've kicked Jesse to the curb once she seen him smoking meth. Jesse & Walter are the cause of her overdosing. Jesse dealing to ppl in recovery is fųčkęd up cause he lost his love who was in recovery.
Nobody forced Jane to take drugs. Ultimately she choose to do so and overdosed because of it. Walt might've been able to prevent it but he's hardly responsible for the well-being of his blackmailer.
People who hate this episode dont get Breaking Bad, full stop.