What Would Jesus Disrupt? (feat. Shannon Q) - (Ken) Ham & AiG News
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- Опубликовано: 25 окт 2018
- Ken Ham and his team have a bi-weekly "news" show, reacting to the news stories of the day from a Christian young-earth creation perspective from the Answers in Genesis staff at his Creation Museum.
Shannon Q and I join Ken Ham, Georgia Purdom and Bodie Hodge as they discuss geckos, a student disrupting class and more in this episode of Answers News hosted in front of a live audience at the Creation Museum.
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The dinosaur gladiator arena diorama made me a Christian.
Only God could explain something so amazing.
45 minutes in the Ark and I would even make a deal with Satan to get me the hell out.
It's funny to me how an extremist conservative is a fascist wanting to murder people for how they were born, and an extreme liberal saves whales and endangered species, but republitards say liberals are the violent ones oppressing them...
I keep telling you. Atheists can't damage the church as much as the church is damaging itself.
That's just not true. Both sides have violent prone people in them.quite frankly, liberals tend to get angry quickly. Look at Alex Baldwin. If one side had less it would probably growing faster than the other.
@@jayb0g yeah, that is true. almost all terrorism was conducted by right wing extremists last year. People like Alec Baldwin might make dumb semantic mistakes when they say islamaphobia is "racist," but they still have a point. People like Sam Harris do consistently group moderates, which in my opinion, are the equivalent of footfall fans, in with extremists. This idea that moderates of any faith-based belief is either liberal or conservative can be disputed easily by changing the time subject belief from a minority to a minority, or vice versa, because liberals tend to look out for the minority while conservatives tend to care more for the majority.
I was an Atheist until I heard Ken Ham speak... He convinced me to want to shoot myself in the face... But then I found Paulogia and I was SAVED... So, thank you for bringing me back from the brink... A BORN AGAIN ATHEIST... :-)
steve cross Long live your genes in the genepool! Can I hear a... what we got instead of Halleluja? 42? :3
Luv it fantastic
Wanting to end your life does sound like the natural thing for someone to want if Ken Ham is speaking to them, yes.
And you are clearly just grandstanding.
I was an atheist until I went to the ark encounter and now I'm a creationist Christian. I'm also a unicorn, and a leprechaun, and the Flying Spaghetti Monster.
Have you met the Great Pumpkin? If you can reach him, please have him call Linus.
Probably you went the wrong way, and stumbled - instead of the ark encounter - over one of dem
newfangled dope dispenseries in Canada?
But being a unicorn is definitely worth the hassle in either way.
A Dawkins reference. Very good.
Amen Bro and don't forget the Knockers
Do not put yourself at the level of His Noodly Appendage
whenever a theist is all "Waaaaaaah! I'm being persectued!" I translate it into "Waaaaaah! Our numbers are dwindling and our (im)moral majority rule is being threatened!" and I am pleased :)
Persecution of theists happens all of the time. Usually at the hands of other theists.
To the privileged, equality feels like oppression
My daughter's 6th grade science teacher said "religion doesn't belong in here, this is science class" We agree.
The south must have missed some of the evolution and got left behind.
@@markgigiel2722 : Now... religion, epsecially priests / shamans evolved from primitive people try to explain the unexplainable - to scamming fraudsters preying (little pun intendet) on the very sophisticated ingrained gullibility and believe in authority they groomed for generations.
This is a kind of evolution, right?
Except we are created in God’s image and God made everything.
@@ryanehlis426 lol
@@ryanehlis426 you got it backwards, HUMAN created god in THIER image
Not only do I doubt they have the tools to convert an atheist to a christian, I doubt they could convert from imperial to metric.
My JW lacks any tools to try to convert me. I do enjoy his visits, and his attemps. It makes for a interesting Saturday.
@@theghost2683 :
So you have your own personal JW to brighten up lazy Saturdays. You surely are blessed :D
They didn't like 2.54 so they rounded it up to 3.
Don't they use cubits?
@@188basstrom Yes. And in cubits, pi is 3. Creationist math is easy.
HECK YOU GUYS AND YOUR FREE HEALTHCARE ;-;
Right!!!!!!!! rubbing it in our face like that.
You’re the one who introduced me to paulogia! Thank you!
I pay $2200+/month, Canada looks pretty good….
To clarify. The abortion study that Shannon cited found that *surgical* abortion increased the risk factor of preterm birth by 0.7%. In constrast, they found that *medical* (i.e. pharmaceutical) abortion didn't have any additional risk compared to the control groups. The take-home point is that medical abortion is OK, surgical abortion carries a little bit of risk.
Thank you! In my hasty live real time research I didn't review it as deeply as I could have so I appreciate this.
I caught this too, and in fact the 'news' article headline contradicts the subheadline and the body text, which is why one should never trust common news media when reporting science. Still, as a scientist (paleobiology), had someone brought up abortion in either a paleontology class or a geology class, the whole class would have told that person to sit down and shut up. But then I was in university in the 60's through the 80's and no one was concerned about anyone's "feelings"--we cared about the education. (BTW, science turned me into an atheist, although I was never a strong believer in god--I just frankly didn't care much.)
@Shannon Q To be fair to you though, the study did say the increase was to the "risk factor" not to the event itself. Also, I would think it fair to say that an increase of 0.7% is a negligible increase. So, you were probably more right then wrong, even with the mistake. Also, I am super jealous of your guys free healthcare. It is unbelievably frustrating that the first meaningful healthcare reform this country has had since the invention of Health Insurance is being destroyed by the party that invented that same reform because a "Black Man" had the temerity to get it passed.
Also worth noting ALL surgery carries some risks. Even routine, outpatient surgeries.
Not negligible on a population level, you understand that that means 7 preterm babies for every thousand born to post-sugery patients? If we expect many post-surgery gravidae, 50,000 or so, we have hundreds of babies with problems which could have been prevented by using another way to clean out mommie's womb.
_"Guess I'll just wait here... and blink..."_
I fell out of my chair from that. Thank you Paul
I'd wager the number of people who went there as Christians and came out as atheists is higher than the other way around. It's like reading the bible, that's essentially what made me an atheist. I read that book and my reaction was basically "That's worse than the worst Star Trek fanfic, that god character..."
I have never seen a worse Mary Sue than the god of the bible. Can do everything, does know everything, is the best and greatest, everyone else wants to be his friend, even after he makes the life of the other characters difficult and puts them in danger and requires them to clean up that Mary Sue's fuckups... and unlike the average Mary Sue he doesn't even have the courtesy to die heroically to save the others in the end.
Is that some really bad writing advice?
No, that's the best part about God Sue, he dies in the end but, oh wait with his infinite powers he just comes back to life, but it's somehow just as meaningful and heroic because symbolism. The ultimate Mary Sue.
It's worse than that. He didn't have the guts to die but instead sent his son to do it for him.
Is there ANYTHING this god does himself instead of having someone else do his work?
God was his son, it's some deep Southern Banjo playing family drama. But I stand by what I had asked, and now repeat as a statement. The Bible really fell deep into all the things that a story should never do, and I know this is not the most popular opinion but I think the Bible is a second or third-rate storybook.
When does Jesus start playing the Anit-Hero?
@@galloe8933 Around Revelations probably.
My intro to philosophy professor told the class something to the effect of "some of you are probably religious, some of you probably aren't. Debates can get heated, so please be respectful towards eachother. If I think that the debate is getting to heated, then I'll stop it". It was impossible to tell if he was religious or not unless you asked him in private.
I am glad you had such a professor who was so respectable.
What?! He didn't make you all sign pledges that declared the death of god? The Newsboys lied to me.
As he should. It's his job to present differing views and be more of an unbiased moderator in discussions.
About what Shannon said at 28:00 ... Keep in mind that Ken Ham thinks "THE FLINTSTONES" is a documentary. OF COURSE he thinks "God is Not Dead" is a documentary too!
I'm so curious about what anyone thinks about Morgan Freeman's documentary about God? He goes to many cultures, and ALL of them have a version of "God". I haven't seen any Christian even address it. The doccie is a few years old already.
Viced rhino does have some good dad jokes. Lol
He has the best. I have honestly found myself literally loling while watching before bed.
It's very comforting
D&C actually stands for dilation and curettage.
They dilate the cervix and use an implement called a courette to scrape the lining of the womb.
It isn't only used for cleaning out leftover debris from a miscarriage/pregnancy or an abortion, they also use it to remove other abnormalities such as endometrial polyps, cancers and endometrial hyperplasia.
It is also used as a diagnostic test.
Oh the horror someone stop me from derailing the class. I must be oppress.
I'm an autistic know it all...I have been accused of derailing many, many times. But I also know to shut up when a teacher sharply says my name (...yeah, they had to do it in college too).
Awesome.
I've been waiting for a new Ham and AIG news episode.
Shannon Q is so funny and you guys are excellent together. I love Paulogia’s dry humour too. Ken Ham is such a con man and money is his real “God.”
So... does this mean that if someone randomly started talking about that sort of thing in one of their creationist classes that they "teach" and was against their stance, they would need to sit there and smile about it?
Guarantee they'd throw you out of a sermon if you stood up and started talking about evolution.
Is it bad that I just want to have a drink with Shannon? Every time she's on the show I just feel like the convo should be happening over some beers, while we all become progressively more drunk due to the sadness Ken is causing us to feel xD
I am 23, and only recently found out that I am autistic. I was considered gifted in school and separated from my classmates in order to learn at a higher level than them and constantly told that I was a genius.
Having teachers learn about autism and how to teach kids with autism is so important. I was lucky that I was adequately pushed to learn, but I wasn't lucky enough to have teachers that tried to foster social skills in me.
Of course, since I wasn't diagnosed at the time, I don't fault them. But it is an important thing for teachers to know about, and this lady probably learned nothing from the class if she was more worried about sharing abortion statistics.
Someone needs to tell the disruptive student, and AIG, it's not about freedom of speech, it's about having some damn respect for the people around you!
Again, abortion simply was not part of the conversation. Students did not pay money (and possibly get
up early) to learn more about another student's views on abortion. If this was a philosophy class and
they were talking about human sexuality, I can see where abortion might come up. If this was a poli sci class and they were talking about campaign issues, I can see where abortion might come up. But,
learning how to teach autistic children, is not the time to try and bring up abortion.
Also, "Freedom of Speech" does not apply to classrooms. You don't have "freedom of speech" in a classroom setting. You are there to listen to your teacher, and perhaps ask them to clarify something they said. It is *not* a forum for debate.
imagine if they "conserved" how teaching was accomplished in the "good old days" of the 1950s, where some one received corporal punishment for speaking in class
I don't know why but the Ham and AiG episodes are the only apologetics videos I will watch over and over. Great work!
Another fantastic episode as usual, thank you guys.
Also, looks like you were doing a bit of a ventriloquist act at 35:17 to 35:23.
For many Christians, feeling persecuted internally validates that they are special, serious Christians. And their story, when shared with other Christians who agree and relay their story gives them external validation of that helps them feel heroic.
How sad...
The wonderful combination of Shannon's righteous indignation and her contagious laugh. I love the visuals in this video, a lot of fun!
This was gold, thank you so much
I couldn’t figure out how I’d either missed this story or didn’t remember it. Then I checked the date and realized this was put up the day my sister died. Yeah, answer found... but it was an utterly amazing piece and I’m not the least bit upset that you guys only made it through a single AIG story. Worth it!
I'm a gay man, I've been out for 10 years now and I've never qustioned it...but...If there is one thing that could make me straight its an angry Shannon Q. Shes just glorious to listen too.
Omgosh Ham & AIG! Yay! Shannon! You had me rolling! 🤣🤣🤣
lol thanks
I'm actually a former atheist who was converted by attending the Creation Museum. You see, around lunch time, I tripped down some stairs & sustained several serious head injuries.
Being the bully then playing the victim when challenged is standard operating procedure for these folks.
It feeds into their persecution complex and their worldview.
I know this comment does not really touches on the topic, but I really like when you feature Shannon Q. I love how much fun she's having and how it shows. Always gets me smiling
4:25 Well, I was never an atheist turned YEC due to AiG, but I was a YEC turned to now a evolutionist due to Paulogia. Thanks Paul for your wonderful videos.
Best comment!
Paul, your definition of AIG News was sooooo good, soooooo true, and ON POINT! It was a keeper! Thank you and GREAT video!!😎😎
I love Shannon so much, I wish Ham and AIGs was just this duo every time.
Definitely one of the best videos you've done. You guys have great on-recording chemistry and it's very entertaining.
Also Shannon Beast Mode is grand.
❤
Sorry, i hate to differ, but i find Shannon too strident, and her responses are often well beyond what is needed or merited. Turn it down a little.
I love these episodes with Shannon Q!
Top expose’ Shannon on top form , her infectious laugh had me in stitches .
No atheist went there and believed. I don't see that happening. I know I didn't. That place is a joke.
Congrats on 20k Paul. I’ve been here since the beginning almost. Proud to be a Patreon. Keep killing it you maple syrup swilling heathen. 👍🏼
you two are having way too much fun
Yeah, I grew up Christian, went to seminary, became a Baptist preacher, then gave it all up because I actually studied the bible... but Ken Ham and his museum changed me back. Gawd be praised!
Just saw the screen shot of Appalachian Bible College, Mount Hope, WV. I live 40 minutes away. Not surprised that they get Ken Hamm's endorsement it always seemed like it would be his kind of place.
Ham ane AiGs is so funny!
😂 Love your show Paulogia!
I was gonna say something about the absence of Q over here, but seeing her being so busy and engaged in everything on her channel and some other ones too and add plus few live podcasts , it became obvious. Welcome back.
Even a cartoon Shannon is anything better than AIG can offer
Great to see Shannon back.
Paulogia, that was fun. Watching Shannon lose her, um, temper? I understood her frustration with AIG bullshit, yet it was fascinating she responded exactly the way I do. Louder, laughing incredulity, shock at how AIG hadn't a clue, or at least pretended they misunderstood the issue, just to play their worn out victim narrative! So predictable that Brodie didn't get to trot out his fallacy fallacies! Kudos to you for 'letting' her vent! Love and Peace
I've been waiting for a Ham and AiG Aron + Shannon ranting contest.
Ken was a guest speaker at the EV church I went to for years. That church was right by a University and lots of tech; many members were very educated, but the pastor was not. Everyone I know (save the pastor) thought Hamm was an idiot. I'm glad I got to see him, he was a big straw and the camel's back was already breaking.
Me too lol
Atheist Participant & Disgruntled Father, the new superpopular, hitmaking duo ... can't wait for the cd!
I'm autistic, and I think if we integrate too soon it makes the Autistic kids feel like they are dumb if they can't grasp the social skills or the learning. I gave up in school and on making friendsfor years because I was integrated too soon and became afraid to interact with any kids. Now I have intense socialanxiety on top of Autism. I think we too often integrate too fast. Integrate at the pace for the child. No more of this," At this point (insert Autistic child) will n
Be ready to integrate to this degree. Few understand just how many factors really go into whether a child will be successful with integration including the speen, the students, the work challenge, the number of posters, objects and kids in the room and much more. I might decide to write a piece on integration on my Medium. Thanks, Shannon, for bringing it to mind!
I literally laughed and clapped at the RJ cameo!
I absolutely LOVE that you include the follow up discussion that was recorded following the classroom disruption. Your attention to detail and keeping me, as a follower of your videos, well informed with all the source materials, is greatly appreciated.
I have only occasionally watched any session from the ”answers” ”news”, and do not appreciate their extrememly poor referencing any source materials. They are full of opinions but empty of verifiable details.
On the issue of the Valerie Flokstra discussion about abortion: I can see in her approach to abortion the same that I have come across in other christians, both in Canada and in America - the conviction that they are right to oppose abortion under any circumstances, and to quote their faith as absolute authority to say so. In other words, to close down discussion by saying they are right and you are wrong. I am a British christian currently living in Canada, and I am appalled at this approach. I would never claim to be absolutely correct on any matter of faith, and I would always be open to discuss any matter of faith with anyone - christian or atheist, or someone of another faith. And, as Shannon showed, her evidence for her point of view actually undermined it and suggested the opposite was true. She had accepted what she had been told, or what she had seen in a program or a video, as truth without checking it, and was pushing her truth onto the class as a whole and onto the two members of staff who spoke to her afterwards.
I have discussed the issue of abortion with my own Baptist pastor (who holds extreme "Right to Life" views), and the question of Young Earth Creationism with a youth worker, and both of them presented their views as the only "correct" christian view, and implied that I was completely wrong to hold any other view. I tried to engage both of them on the basis of scientific evidence and (in the case of abortion) the need to do the minimum harm, but neither of them would engage in any way other than on their own interpretation of the Bible. In the case of YEC, this involved the youth worker in rejecting wholesale all the evidence available from radiometric dating techniques, without having a shred of evidence that they were untrustworthy.
As a christian, I am ashamed of others who hold faith in the same Saviour as myself, who put up such ignorant and impervious shields against discussion. I am therefore not surprised to hear that Valerie ended up working in a christian school, because she wouldn't be able to cope with having anyone hold a contrary view to herself. It is such a pity, and I hope north america can find some way to resolve this, because it is turning anyone who has any scientific knowledge against the church, and marginalizing it.
On a side note, I once worked for a period in Jordan, and was taken out for the day by a Jordanian colleague who was eager to show me the best of his country. He took me first to Madaba, then down the mountains beside Jordan's east bank to Petra, which was stunning. Then we drove back at the end of the day along the fringe of the desert. The problem was that my friend could speak little English, and I no Arabic. Very early in the day it was clear that he had a question for me, and we struggled to understand each other. Eventually the conversation ran like this:
- You're a christian, right?
- Yes, I am
- How many Gods do you believe in?
- One God.
- Good - must be the same as mine.
He wanted me to understand that he intended to stop at intervals along the road to pray, and wanted to be sure I'd be ok with that. For him, if we both believed in one God it didn't matter how we each prayed to him. It was an open and inclusive way of thinking that opened up our discussion rather than becoming a barrier between us. I wish my own church here in Canada could learn this.
Even as a strong atheist I would have had no problem letting this man pray. That is just a matter of respect for the other person as a human being.
Hey Paul love your vids mate. Love how you put up a picture of the cloud nine player sneaky when Shannon said sneaky
I was hoping someone would notice.
Very much appreciate the image of C9 Sneaky at 15:36 when Shannon is talking about being sneaky :)
i once had Jesus, but wound up with depression, anxiety attacks, and PTSD. Ham and eggs made me a born-again pantheist.
A large majority of the atheist visitors to the Ark Encounter are going for the sheer comedic value of the trip. It is undoubtedly very funny, even though you have to stifle your laughter!
You brought in a clip from “Who Framed Roger Rabbit”! Another reason I watch this so much. The hilarity!
I love how shannon is always laughing so hard
Great video guys...she is your best guest...have her on more you two rock!!
Awee thanks!
Great video Saulogia!! 😁
HAHAHAHAHAHA
I want AiG to go away, but you two can keep your shows, please. Thanks for being you, and I'm sorry that I had to "meet" you.
The one good thing about AiG news: Ham and AiG
I always look for the original links. If I forward a story on to someone else I sent the original and not the one of the person presenting the story. Unless they do a real good job on analyses, then I will send both. :)
I like when you two host together.
Thanks! We have a lot of fun!
Shannon Q you da man!!
I love your commentary
Shannon is so funny. She's my favorite guest for sure.
Now I want to listen to South Park’s “Blame Canada” song
By the end of this, I really wanted to give Shannon a hug. ( and a high five!) :p
Eyy fellow fury
OMG....There's a digimon stage play? This changes everything for my inner child.
I can talk to you guys if I just say "The Ark encounter converted me"?
I'm in. Let's do it.
Eric Taylor to what though?
Hooray for Paul and Shannon!!!
YES!! Shannon is the best.
Just watched your genesis lost rebbuttle. Superb.
I truly looking forward to meeting you at FFRF Con and being a cartoon.
Love you guys! and if Canada was just a tad bit warmer I would move there.
You'd have to qualify, but Vancouver has similar weather to Portland OR, and significantly warmer winters than MOST Northern US cities.
"The handful of college."...LMAO. Well played Paul...well...played
Dang, I got to both you and Viced Rhino within hours of you both posting! I’ve never before pulled that off.
The closest thing I've had to their "God's Not Dead" parallel was a Geology professor that said "I don't care about your personal beliefs, for the sake of this class the Earth is 4.3 billion years old."
Lol... Dusting and cleaning! My wife needed that for endimetriosis
I love Shannon. She cracks me up.
He'll always have the "Scepter"
LOL
You go Shannon ! !
BRANT ❤!!!
In the midst of a Twitter conversation, I was embarrassed to see someone citing an AiG article discrediting a paleontologist. As soon as I saw AiG as the source, I started thinking Ham & AiG's theme song! Thank you for a catchy song!
NO GAME NO LIFE IN THE BACKGROUND VIDEO!!! *YEAH!!!!!*
The angrier Shannon gets, the more I love her.
Shannon is so done with the apologists bullshit! Love it! Stand up for truth ✊🏻
that sneaky sneaky slide XD
Believe it or not, my freshman Biology professor absolutely did have us raise our hands and did almost to the letter what Ken Ham reported. Almost TO THE LETTER! It was really messed up. I ended up failing the class, mostly because I was immature and irresponsible at the time, but that absolutely played a role in my failure. It also played a role in my subsequent return to a Biomedical Science major in college when I would reattempt it six years later. So yes, this really DOES happen.
I need to draw a picture of Shannon blowing a gasket over this one story. XP
Prob is, the ppl that need to see this and get the right info wont bc of the other side. Awsome vid and guest.
Ahhh Ham & Eggs, good I was hungry, some mustard on the side for me please :)
Okay, so Shannon rant is amazing and should just happen more often.
Was not expecting C9 Sneaky as a visual gag. The biggest scandal here is that Paulogia plays League of Legends.
HAHAHA "by a little bit I mean holy fuck" needs to be on a t shirt!!!! LOL
and on the shoulder it should say Atheist Participant.
Hahaha that's an amazing idea!
3:18 - That fork being held by that person in the statue riding the rooster -- is that the same fork that the Flying Spaghetti Monster was wound upon? :-P
Virtual Stoa I think so. His noodly appendage approves of forking...
Sings with Ham and Aigs!!!
Sooooo those Paulogia episodes featuring SciManDan, Conspiracy Catz, and Cosmic Skeptic'll be out any day now, right?
Yes, I know none of their subject matter overlaps yours at all. Make it happen! 😁