'I get the sense that The Ramones were posh boys' They were all dirt poor kids from rough neighbourhoods. At least one of them was a sex worker for a while. Definitely not posh boys.
Oh yes. ALmost all of the underground scene in NY was. Talking Heads, Blondie, The Cramps, Patti Smith, New York Dolls etc (Mind you I loved The Cramps) It was only in the UK it was a working class update of what skiffle was to most working class kids in UK in the 1950s even. And they all got banned from the music session clubs too.
Well, I have a story about REO Speedwagon. In 1982 or so I was a 14 year old girl . Everybody loved them in Southern California. To express my delight in them, coming home from school on the bus , I carved their name in the seat back in front of me. It read “ Areo Speed Wagon”. I realized a few days later I spelled that wrong. In the following two years or so, I tried to make up for misspelling that by writing VH in the cool font Van Halen used on everything. I mean everything. Love this list! ❤
The main problem in the 1980s with synths was the development of digital synths. This seemed to create a sameness in the industry and the worst of this came from boomer aged bands. Late in the 80s people started rediscovering analog synths for the better. The Ramones and the scene that came with them was a borne out of a reaction to the ever more bland arena rock that was getting overplayed on (American) radio. The Ramones never had mainstream success and that combined with drug use had a lot to do with their early deaths. Ironically now oldies stations play the Ramones despite there almost never getting airplay during their lifetimes. For me most of radio has had an indolent sameness from 70s arena rock, to elevator pop, to top 40 disco attempts with a through line to now that gave us a vanilla version of interesting music.
Funny thing is that I agree with you on many points and (how could it be else) totally disagree on others. But even on those point I enjoy the way you express your hatred a lot! Fun watch.
What I love about Andy's channel is that you always learn something new. Today I learned that I have a deep, seething hatred of REO Speedwagon. I have been denying and repressing that fact for decades. But I can't fight that feeling anymore. It's who I am. Thank you, Andy, for helping me face and embrace my hatred.
Those S.O.B.'s chased me for half a decade. I saw them at least eight times without ever wanting to. When I was in college, they replaced the Eagles at the last minute when transportation issues forced the band to cancel their show. The Atlanta Rhythm Section and REO Speedwagon filled in...I'd never heard of them. Saw them again a few months later against my will when they suddenly appeared as the opening act for Jethro Tull...Brewer & Shipley (One Toke Over the Line) were supposed to open. It happened again a few months later when...unannounced...they wound up opening for the Doobie Bros...Pablo Cruise had been advertised. Had I been more sophisticated in terms of the legal system, I would've filed a Restraining Order. Then...they added the godawful lead singer with the little girl's voice and they found me during an excursion to Six Flags one evening. We left...hurriedly.
@@RaoulDuke-bc1pm I feel your pain, and understand the lasting mental trauma caused by being stalked by REO Speedwagon. Perhaps we should form support group to let others know they are not alone.
The Ramones were far from posh; Johnny was a pipefitter apprentice. At their peak in 77-78 their live show was like AC-DC on speed and Johnny had a huge guitar sound very akin to that of Leslie West. Tommy's drumming had a sense of swing and Marky was very powerful and precise. Before REO succumbed to sloppy ballads they were a very good live act, tight, hard rocking and powerful and Gary Richrath was a very good guitarist.
@@vordman I mean, Chicago has never been a bad band, but the material turned to dogshit. That's the sad part, they could probably still melt faces if they wanted.
The way people, including myself in the past, use the phrase "sense of swing" is kinda weird, given 'swing' actually does mean something very specific in music. But usually people don't mean that. They mean a sense of groove via dynamics..... unless the Ramones actually have music with real swing. I won't pretend to be super familiar with their catalog, but what I have heard sounded like pretty standard on-the-grid 4/4 stuff, sans any hint of real swing.
@@shadhansen739Jesus, two of them died of cancer in their late 40s & early 50s. The other of an OD of heroin at 50. They made a living, that's it. Born working class, die young.
@@paulvanreesch2493 Along those lines, you might want to give Jim Jarmusch's doc on the Stooges a miss - if you haven't seen it already. For the same reason. Great film - don't get me wrong. But it's REALLY disheartening to hear a two hour gushing tribute to the profound influence that these guys had on the decades that followed - knowing that Ron and Scott Asheton both died in precisely the same modest Ann Arbor environs in which they grew up. All that posthumous glory rings a little hollow.
@@chriscoughlin9289 Too late, saw it when it premiered at a theater in Detroit (live in the metro Detroit region). I was disappointed in the Jarmusch Stooges, thought it was phoned in. &, yes, y're right, both Ashestons died too young.
Thank you! You mentioned a problem that no one talks about. The music industry is a closed system. You don't get in there unless you were born into these connected circles. Pink Floyd, Coldplay, Muse, Blur, Oasis, Maroon 5, Taylor Swift, Miley Cyrus, ...,and they are just the big names. In other words you to have connections. Same goes with other areas of the arts.
I recently went through an awkward period where my shower wasn't working quite right. Before I got around to getting it fixed properly, I repeatedly tried standing there, naked and expectant beneath the head, as an incredibly fine, insubstantial spray breezed over my tilted silhouette. I would then exit the cubicle feeling like I'd been kissed by a warm but moist breeze, strangely unfulfilled and too quickly dry. It reminded me of listening to The Lighthouse Family.
REO Speedwagon is my guiltiest of guilty rock pleasures. I absolutely LOVE Gary Richrath’s lead guitar on Roll With the Changes. Isn’t rock supposed to be fun, anyway ? Give me REO over, say, Coldplay, ANY day.
@@mccallosone4903 You guys have chosen wisely. I think Andrew would truly love the album title, "You Can Tune a Piano, but You Can't Tuna Fish". Very punny indeed. It did have "Roll with the Changes" and the 3rd best REO song, "Time for Me to Fly" (both of these were written by Kevin Cronin). "Ridin' the Storm Out" was Richrath penned and his solos jammed on all 3 of them.
I agree with every one of his choices on that list! I'd forgotten (thankfully) all about the truly insipid Lighthouse Family and dreadful Reo Speedwagon. Pleased to see him call out the enormously overrated Ramones. Cool image and band name but not the songs to back it up.
FYI in UK middle class means upper class (in USA standards), I learned that the hard way when I moved to UK. . ie: Lower middle class UK= Upper middle class USA. Workings class UK= lower middle class USA Because the royalty are considered the upper class in UK, the next richest people in UK are called middle class (aka Upper class in USA). Confusing right?!?!?!
Radiohead started off as a pretty standard rock band but they had a very Beatle-like transition and kept changing their sound and made some pretty great music.
can't agree about Marillion. they were fab during the Fish era and to me they were pretty much responsible for the re-birth of prog rock after being virtually killed off by Punk rock. they paved the way for other bands to follow such as Pendragon, Porcupine tree and hundreds more. i bought their CD's during the eighties which i regret now because i collect vinyls but having said that, the production of their CD's was superb. they descended into mediocrity once Fish left.
I must say, in these sensitive times, this is a breath of fresh air. Not necessarily because it's another hate-lists on RUclips but you articulate your bile beautifully. Probably doesn't hurt that I agree with you! You carry on, kid!
Entertaining as always. You are spot on about Reo Speedwagon, The Foo Fighters, Simply Red. I hate blandness too. Coldplay should have been on there along with U2.
@@DavePaint Agree. Some school friends went to see them round about the time of Destroyer. They raved about the gig, so eventually I borrowed the album. I was impressed with the album cover, but the music was nothing. By-the-numbers boring hard rock. It was purely their image and the stage show that sold the albums.
You need to listen to 'Telegraph Road' off the "Love Over Gold" album and the "Making Movies" album. Dire Straits did not make a bad album, and arrived during that era when a lot of the music business started to strip down the progressive dial in the studios with punk and electronica. Dire Straits had no category you could spin them into. They were not retro rock like The Stray Cats, nor glam/prog like Ultravox or Roxy Music, nor pop. They stood out because there was nobody like them, and the guitar playing and arrangements were always excellent with impeccable sound. You need to take a real listen. Thanks for the segment and humor.
Train Coldplay Marilyn Manson Nickelback Imagine Dragons Simply Red (apparently called that because they're from Manchester) Lyte funky ones (LFO) Florida Georgia Line
Dave Grohl = "the Max Bygraves of rock", Mick Hucknall = "a putrified scotch egg" - haha! Ironically, the drum intro to "Money For Nothing" was the only drumming on Brothers In Arms that the great Omar Hakim DIDN'T do - it was played by Terry Williams who rejoined the band for the subsequent tour. I appreciated how pertinent your preamble was in these troubled times Andy. Good on you.
@@sbwlearning1372 Being Boring? Liberation? Red Letter Day? Miracles? Love is a Bourgeois Concept? What are we going to do about the rich? Yesterday when I was mad? Rent? These are gorgeous.
My heart sank a little when you mentioned Marillion! Got into them in late 80s and more or less stuck to that period (got a couple of albums with the new singer). I got into Genesis around the same time. As a drummer I was fairly impressed with Ian Moseley and still do a few things stolen from him to this day. Also the original Dire Straits drummer Pick Withers was really good imo. He got out of it when they got bigger, didn't like the direction, so I'm with you on that band and also fond of the song Brothers in Arms!
Bunch of channels who figured out or got told there's a form of algorithm-friendly whining one trick ponyism, extremely tawdry and obnoxious. Yawn. At least there are functions for blocking them from getting recommended.
It's my favourite for sure.... It has all the energy of the first two albums with better recording and better songwriting. It's sad to say because it was so early in their career but I think it was their peak. Road to Ruin feels like the start of the downturn.
Simply Red's hit "If You Don't Know Me By Now" was a cover. The office manager David Brent covered it in an episode of The Office. Simply Red's cover is what he covered.
The factor that makes the music of the Ramones interesting was Joey, a gawky, autistic guy that figured out a way to turn all the qualities that got him beaten up at age 12 into something cool. And it was very, very cool.
Except that they weren't REMOTELY the first. Ask anybody like me - who's old enough to remember the Stooges getting spit on at almost every gig they played during their 'Raw Power' tour in 1973.
I like the Ramones. The first few albums sound like a souped up version of those sixties Girls Groups, but with lyrics about pinheads, dysfunctional families and shock treatment instead of The Clapping Song. They're more Rock and Roll than Rock. They seem like pre-Beatles and Dylan pop songs recast for a less positive era.
Nope - not even those guys would've said that. They would've directed you to the opening chords of 'You Really Got Me' Even Townshend - who is CONSTANTLY credited as granddaddy - freely admits that he copped the riff from 'Can't Explain' from it.
The Ramones' influences were basically all pre-hippie. Like the New York Dolls, they sounded a lot closer to the Kingsmen (or a rocked-up Herman's Hermits) than to the Stooges. You never heard the Ramones do a ten-minute dirge like We Will Fall on the first Stooges album.
@@IanmackableThat has as much to do with how the Ramones very cannily packaged themselves as it does with their obvious love of a pre - sandbox Brian Wilson. Those guys went to catch the Dolls during their historic stand at the ill fated Mercer Arts, and they would later remark repeatedly in interviews over the years that they were struck by the theater of it all. Staying in character - and always delivering the goods within a certain set of parameters - became a HUGE key to the enduring appeal of the Ramones. It seems obvious enough to me - having caught them live virtually every chance I got from 1977 onward. But not everybody gives them credit for that relentless discipline It would be absurd to suggest that anybody ever even got the chance to pigeonhole the Stooges in the same fashion. It just wasn't even on the table.
Ok Andy, Here is a reminder! Music and bands that will last a 100 years. I also would like to add a wish, please do a video like a “Grand Tour” of European prog music. There are some manny great bands that deserve a bit of recognition. ❤
@@Les537 Very droll 😂 Dad ( Grandad ) Rock rools forever ! God we were bloody spoiled in the 70s . Though every generatiion will think the music they grew up with ( 13 - 19 ) is the greatest of all hyperbolic time . Except the current one . There is no way at 17 that I wanted to listen to music from the forties . But I regularly read in the comments , current teenagers ( Z ? ) saying /moaning that they werent growing up im 60s / 70s finding the hegemony of Ed Sheerbore , and the underpowered ( jaded) whispering from Drake . Swift is obviously a stellar phonomenen and kind of ok I suppose but nothing thats sounds life or death stuff ( Hendrix or Beatles Nirvana Sly Stone ) but then I would say that I will be 98 in September of this year . P.S. Lana Del Ray rools !
@@jonunderscore I love finding new bands to hate even more than finding new stuff to love. I've recently got into hating reggaeton, Blues Traveler and The Dave Matthews Band. Not being American I'd never heard owt by the latter two till last monday. Andy would love these two.
I received a laptop computer in 2008. I had never known computers. Hoo-boy. I discovered that I was a few decades behind. Now: There are YT channelers "of a certain age" whose computer moves I can actually follow. This is one of them.
It’s what happens isn’t it, record companies find an easier listening and simplified version of the groups that shape the sound, happens in every genre
@@fernandodeleon7466Milli Vanilli was never a band. Both them (the actual people that made the music) and Wham had some of the greatest pop songs ever written. Completely don't agree.
@@klapsigaarenbasgitaar1931 well ... Wham was never a band either : Michael did everything. That's why he left.As for the songs ... mm ... too gay for me, and musically not that good. 'Wake me up ...' should never be recorded, it's a shame
I subscribed because in every video of yours I've watched (about 7 of them, so far) you seem to imbue it with a love and a knowledge of music that i find very refreshing, even when I don't agree with your particular take... Also for the amazing British humor. But I've also come to admire the top-tier hatred for Americana. Well done.
Totally agree with your #1 Andy. I've lost count of how many people I've told of my hate for Lighthouse Family. However, I'd have Wet Wet Wet at #2 for the very same reason, insipid crap !
On 30 May 1988 I saw the Creatures (Siouxsie and Budgie) play their first comeback gig at the Garage at Highbury Corner. Afterwards, I got on the tube, and the carriage was full of people who had either been at the Creatures, or had been at Wembley Arena to see the Shitehouse Family. Those who had seen the Creatures all looked hot and sweaty, and all had huge smiles on their faces. Those who had seen the Shitehouse Family all looked bored shitless!
Mostly good choices. What about Wet Wet Wet? They must have been at number 11. Syrupy white soul pop that makes me want to puke. S Club 7. Fuckin perky goody two shoes pop sang in American accents.
@scottmuir5773 I'm sure there were some folk bands from the era are probably decent it just felt like every man and his dog were jumping on the band wagon including James Blunt, train, AVICCI....
I worked a bar with that REO song on the jukebox and iot used it skip on the line “I don’t wanna sleep- i dont wanna sleep- i dont wanna sleep…” and the only way to stop it was to unplug the machine.
I had a boss who once worked in a hotel where Marillion stayed whilst on tour. Somehow Fish (real name Derek Dick) managed somehow to annoy him. As a result he referred to Fish as Mr Dick, eg "Certainly Mr Dick", "What paper do you want in the morning Mr Dick. "
The only time I saw Marillion was at the Theakson Music Festival in 1982. They were one of the support bands to Jethro Tull. I found them so boring I fell asleep. When I woke up, the beer tent had closed so I may have been the only person who was there who didn't have a drink of beer. Wang Chung (or Huang Chung as they were then) were on the same bill. Their lead singers voice broke and their synths all broke down.
@johnelwen4435 haha, I remember all that! Were they the band who were playing along to a backing track, but their tape machine broke so they had to call it a day?
@@LCD72 It was the keyboards that packed in. The guitars and drums were still playing. They spent a short while trying to get them going again whilst playing on without them. Then cut the set short. My recollection of the late seventies and early eighties was that if bands used a backing tape, they were upfront about it. I remember gigs where the band had the tape machine on stage with them.
Thanks for this. After watching the news I needed cheering up. I laughed out loud many times. And I found my self agreeing with a lot of what you said 😂
Don't judge REO Speedwagon by their 80's stuff, just like its unfair to judge Yes or Genesis by their 80's crap. Listen to the live version of "Ridin' the Storm Out" and "Roll With the Changes" ...or watch the video. Gary Richrath was a great guitar player.
Truth! Saw them in 79 in Houston and they kicked ass. Thank god for Rockpalast who preserved that tour on film. REO at their peak. The 80s ballad fad killed many a band. I blame Dennis de Young for that😊
REO Speedwagon is underrated as a band. I think their 80's stuff is just fine. Hi Infidelity was a good album. Unlike Andy, I harbor no hatred towards them.
Hi Infidelity is the single worst piece of crap ever over produced - my friends and I started a club that defenestrated this album if we found it in people's homes and we were all REO fans
Pet Shop Boys, yuppies? Weren't they very left wing? The line 'Che Guavara and Debussy to a disco beat...' And didn't they play live in Trafalgar Square as they projected a Soviet, Socialist Realist movie by Eisenstein?!
Dire Straits is a tough one. I grew up in a family where Dire Straits was seen as 'good, proper music' (at least for rock music). Even from friends at school around me, it was the band that you like if you are really into music. And as a kid in the 80's I was aware of a lot of horrendous music being played on the radio (80's production at its worst, drum machines, even at the time I instinctively appreciated music being played by people, in the same room, that's why I was fascinated by bands more than solos artists). Dire Straits was fulfilling that role. Now 35 years later, I've realised that it all comes down to being exposed to music. You develop your taste and appreciation for difference types of harmony, and what sounds very beautiful when you were 15 starts sounding bland after you've heard it a million times. I didn't listen to Dire Straits for a good 30 years (didn't even think of Dire Straits, like they were erased from existence). Yet in recent years I have occasionally gone back to listening to Dire Straits, as there are some songs that I find to be really good compositions (especially the albums Communique, Making Movies, Love Over Gold), but I've also come to the conclusion that Mark Knopfler's singing is a chore to listen to (and FYI I'm a huge fan of Bob Dylan), that the songs could be delivered in a much better way and be more engaging. It is a thought that never crossed my mind before (it was just part of the sound of Dire Straits), I do think he's very talented but it's not a reason to be exempt from criticism.
My nephew was friends with Chris Martin at university. He stayed at my Brothers house and was fed Pizza, and apparently was a very nice man. I enjoyed their first hit, Yellow, but that was it. I went back to my weird Crap.
The Ramones were funny. I loved the humor of the band, their energy and their sound, which dismissed all the showy guitar solos of the day, pissing off all the pretentious prissy frat boys. 🤘 Here they are live in London in 1977. ruclips.net/video/Sp3zaeOyL7Q/видео.htmlsi=zOQcAGFpnsVAcZJS
Fantastic! Brilliant idea for a video, and the 1-man VoxPop straight afterwards is a cool special touch. What someone hates is so much more interesting than what someone loves. I actually LIKE all of the 10 bands you hate, but I don't LOVE any of them - maybe that says something. I love REM, and suspected they might be on this list. I'm glad they're not.
What I find particularly funny about this video is that, despite the initial caveat, the expression of hate for these bands (especially the top 5) is substantial. Andy, a master in Stanislavski's system.
Everything was going well, but you had to ruin everything. Dire Straits?! No one is allowed to hate Dire Straits!! Even not liking is a serious crime, but hating, NEVER! PS - Put Queen in Dire Straits' place and the list will be perfect and I'll be able to give it a like.
Aw no, Pet Shop Boys are one of my favorite groups. I don't think you really get them and that's okay, they're not for everyone. But their lyrics are full of wry irony and wit. And Chris Lowe's arrangements are masterfully constructed, nuanced and magical. Chris' outward appearance of not doing anything and just being the "other guy" who looks bored, is intentional and part of their aloof image. Neil Tennant will admit he isn't the strongest vocalist, but there is something comforting about his even, soft tenor and it's a very distinctive sound. I also love their passion for their craft and I think their popularity over the years is beyond warranted. They are constantly dedicated to their art and have released 15 studio albums, still successful and still charting. While they always retain their PSB sound, all of their albums have a different vibe and theme to them. There are so many bands that formed in the 80s that can never recapture the sound and popularity of their early days, but Pet Shop Boys never had that issue. But if you're not a fan and don't know their whole discography, I can see why one might have a distaste for them. They may be one of those groups where you have to really love them to understand them. The rest of your list is spot on (I especially can't stand Coldplay), I kind of have to like the Ramones though because I'm from NY.
Very stimulating! Prompts so many memories of my musical life from the early 80s onwards - everything from Tommy Vance, to Script for A Jester's, posh boy music, Sex Pistols etc etc. Even the annoying things are amusing. Thank you.
Unbelievably there's one I agree with on here but it's not PSB. I just think you might have missed the point with West End Girls specifically as a record let alone them because the whole thing that makes it timeless (but also redolent of it's time) is that it sums up a REALLY AWFUL time but does it in very engaging way - I would also point out the track King's Cross (a favourite of mine) and the film It Couldn't Happen Here - becauss they're all trying to get the same reaction, with a nod and a wink - basically you either get the message or you don't really. If you like the same influences as the duo (be it films music or whatever else) then you're probably more likely to get the emotional response and that's more down to places and cultures than any personal angst that's being flogged.
As well as being great Pop writers and Tennant brilliant lyrics, they’ve usually included a few experimental tracks on every album - The Sound Of The Atom Splitting, The Way Through The Woods etc. even releasing their own 10 minute ‘Pop Prog’ epic ‘Cricket Wife’…
Funny fact, I nearly ran over Mick Hucknall once, he was crossing the road, Shaftesbury Avenue in 1981 and I had to break hard not to hit him! I said to the young lady I was in the car with, "Look its Mick Hucknall" she said, "You nearly hit him!"
Dire Straits ? REALLY ??? I heard their first album for the first time on a NYC FM station when it was first released as I was driving home from work. When I got home I said to my then gf 'Give me $10., which she did while asking 'Why, whats up ?". I replied 'You'll understand shortly, I'm heading to the record store, be back in a few'. What a great album that was !
I, too, thought REO Speedwagon was total cheese, and I wasn't very hyped to see them when they came to my town in 2004 on a triple bill with Styx and Journey (my *_real_* fave). But I've got to give them credit. REO put on a damn good show, and those power ballads really do hit hard at full concert volume with the whole audience singing along. In fact, both REO and Styx (neither of whom I had ever seen live) outshined Journey - the headlining band - and by quite a lot. Journey's singer, Steve Augeri (replacement for Steve Perry) was having trouble with his voice that night, and the setlist featured some older, more obscure Journey songs which really only Perry could ever pull off (Dixie Highway, etc.). Anyway, props to REO and Styx for bringing their A game that night. Cheers.
Charlie Brooker summed up Mumford and Sons better than anyone else.
"The Trust-fund Wurzels"
In the sitcom Peep Show, Super Hans claimed they demanded the Ramsgate Blowjob.
Stunning summary!
I also liked Huw Stephens describing them as "Take That with a banjo"
A pal of mine used to call them mummy’s boys and sons.
Wurzel? Of Motörhead??
Watching this guy rock back and forth is giving me sea sickness
@rolanddeschain. That’s the Allan Holdsworth in him.
I think he’s on the spectrum
He also doesn't look at the LENS! He look off to his right, at the display.
I think it started after he was on the Sea of Tranquility a couple of times.
I'd listen to his podcast bit I'm also sensitive to motion and his constant rocking is making me nauseous.
'I get the sense that The Ramones were posh boys'
They were all dirt poor kids from rough neighbourhoods. At least one of them was a sex worker for a while. Definitely not posh boys.
Then why are they so soft and ten years old.
Oh yes. ALmost all of the underground scene in NY was. Talking Heads, Blondie, The Cramps, Patti Smith, New York Dolls etc (Mind you I loved The Cramps)
It was only in the UK it was a working class update of what skiffle was to most working class kids in UK in the 1950s even. And they all got banned from the music session clubs too.
Well, I have a story about REO Speedwagon. In 1982 or so I was a 14 year old girl . Everybody loved them in Southern California. To express my delight in them, coming home from school on the bus , I carved their name in the seat back in front of me. It read “ Areo Speed Wagon”. I realized a few days later I spelled that wrong. In the following two years or so, I tried to make up for misspelling that by writing VH in the cool font Van Halen used on everything. I mean everything. Love this list! ❤
The main problem in the 1980s with synths was the development of digital synths. This seemed to create a sameness in the industry and the worst of this came from boomer aged bands. Late in the 80s people started rediscovering analog synths for the better. The Ramones and the scene that came with them was a borne out of a reaction to the ever more bland arena rock that was getting overplayed on (American) radio. The Ramones never had mainstream success and that combined with drug use had a lot to do with their early deaths. Ironically now oldies stations play the Ramones despite there almost never getting airplay during their lifetimes. For me most of radio has had an indolent sameness from 70s arena rock, to elevator pop, to top 40 disco attempts with a through line to now that gave us a vanilla version of interesting music.
Funny thing is that I agree with you on many points and (how could it be else) totally disagree on others. But even on those point I enjoy the way you express your hatred a lot! Fun watch.
What I love about Andy's channel is that you always learn something new. Today I learned that I have a deep, seething hatred of REO Speedwagon. I have been denying and repressing that fact for decades. But I can't fight that feeling anymore. It's who I am. Thank you, Andy, for helping me face and embrace my hatred.
Those S.O.B.'s chased me for half a decade. I saw them at least eight times without ever wanting to. When I was in college, they replaced the Eagles at the last minute when transportation issues forced the band to cancel their show. The Atlanta Rhythm Section and REO Speedwagon filled in...I'd never heard of them. Saw them again a few months later against my will when they suddenly appeared as the opening act for Jethro Tull...Brewer & Shipley (One Toke Over the Line) were supposed to open. It happened again a few months later when...unannounced...they wound up opening for the Doobie Bros...Pablo Cruise had been advertised. Had I been more sophisticated in terms of the legal system, I would've filed a Restraining Order. Then...they added the godawful lead singer with the little girl's voice and they found me during an excursion to Six Flags one evening. We left...hurriedly.
@@RaoulDuke-bc1pm I feel your pain, and understand the lasting mental trauma caused by being stalked by REO Speedwagon. Perhaps we should form support group to let others know they are not alone.
Didn't know Ramones is a band, thought was T-shirt company😮
Well, in a way you are rights since 99 percent of the people who wear these shirts have never heard the band...
@@probusexcogitatoris736 Like Che Guevara Ltd.
..NO PROBLEM..!
@@probusexcogitatoris736and 99% of the people who say that have never stopped to ask if they know the music, they just ASSUME they don’t know.
@@probusexcogitatoris736 Also true for Bob Marley and Pink Floyd.
The Ramones were far from posh; Johnny was a pipefitter apprentice. At their peak in 77-78 their live show was like AC-DC on speed and Johnny had a huge guitar sound very akin to that of Leslie West. Tommy's drumming had a sense of swing and Marky was very powerful and precise. Before REO succumbed to sloppy ballads they were a very good live act, tight, hard rocking and powerful and Gary Richrath was a very good guitarist.
Your taste is cack. I think I'd hate your record collection.
Which Ramones Band was this? was this the New Jersey Band?
A bit like Chicago. They were good when they started but then became horrible.
@@vordman I mean, Chicago has never been a bad band, but the material turned to dogshit. That's the sad part, they could probably still melt faces if they wanted.
The way people, including myself in the past, use the phrase "sense of swing" is kinda weird, given 'swing' actually does mean something very specific in music. But usually people don't mean that. They mean a sense of groove via dynamics..... unless the Ramones actually have music with real swing. I won't pretend to be super familiar with their catalog, but what I have heard sounded like pretty standard on-the-grid 4/4 stuff, sans any hint of real swing.
The Ramones posh? Amazing. Literally no one has ever thought the Ramones were posh.
Album sales and T-shirt royalties notwithstanding...😢
@@shadhansen739Jesus, two of them died of cancer in their late 40s & early 50s. The other of an OD of heroin at 50. They made a living, that's it. Born working class, die young.
Yeah, he appears to know nothing about the Ramones, or American punk music at all. But I mean, he DID listen to one of their songs so...
@@paulvanreesch2493 Along those lines, you might want to give Jim Jarmusch's doc on the Stooges a miss - if you haven't seen it already.
For the same reason.
Great film - don't get me wrong.
But it's REALLY disheartening to hear a two hour gushing tribute to the profound influence that these guys had on the decades that followed - knowing that Ron and Scott Asheton both died in precisely the same modest Ann Arbor environs in which they grew up.
All that posthumous glory rings a little hollow.
@@chriscoughlin9289 Too late, saw it when it premiered at a theater in Detroit (live in the metro Detroit region). I was disappointed in the Jarmusch Stooges, thought it was phoned in. &, yes, y're right, both Ashestons died too young.
Travis Barker is the drummer for Blink 182 and as far as I am aware, still alive.
I'm not up on either band, but I didn't think that sounded right.
He survived a plane crash.
Taylor Hawkins... Travis Barker... Potato... Pineapple... ;))
Travis Barker is married to a lesser Kardashian.
Well he did marry a Kardashian so can you really call that a life?
Thank you! You mentioned a problem that no one talks about. The music industry is a closed system. You don't get in there unless you were born into these connected circles. Pink Floyd, Coldplay, Muse, Blur, Oasis, Maroon 5, Taylor Swift, Miley Cyrus, ...,and they are just the big names. In other words you to have connections. Same goes with other areas of the arts.
I recently went through an awkward period where my shower wasn't working quite right. Before I got around to getting it fixed properly, I repeatedly tried standing there, naked and expectant beneath the head, as an incredibly fine, insubstantial spray breezed over my tilted silhouette. I would then exit the cubicle feeling like I'd been kissed by a warm but moist breeze, strangely unfulfilled and too quickly dry. It reminded me of listening to The Lighthouse Family.
😂
you write sooo well
how come?
@@wsplatinum Too many Prog lyric sleeves read have I!🤓
That was very satisfying.
Thank you for making such a generous contribution to the internet's overall readability.
REO Speedwagon is my guiltiest of guilty rock pleasures. I absolutely LOVE Gary Richrath’s lead guitar on Roll With the Changes. Isn’t rock supposed to be fun, anyway ? Give me REO over, say, Coldplay, ANY day.
His leads on all of their hits! My fave is his outro on Don't Let Him Go.
“Roll With the Changes” is actually a banger of a stadium rock song. You can have every other REO song. Please.
great song, as is riding the storm out. i hate all other songs by them tho
@@mccallosone4903 You guys have chosen wisely. I think Andrew would truly love the album title, "You Can Tune a Piano, but You Can't Tuna Fish". Very punny indeed. It did have "Roll with the Changes" and the 3rd best REO song, "Time for Me to Fly" (both of these were written by Kevin Cronin). "Ridin' the Storm Out" was Richrath penned and his solos jammed on all 3 of them.
Aye, two lives of REO. Check out the 70ties
Alan Partridge: "I was firing my friend's air gun into a beef tomato. And here is - Mick Hucknall and Simply Red..."
I watched that again recently!!!!!
Lovely stuff!
Spiceworld!
"You're never gonna meet Benjamin Netanyahu Lynn"... "They've rebadged it you fool".....
@@alexnorman4919 DAN…. DAN , DAN , DAN …… He can’t hear me ….. DAN …. DAN ……. DAN
Coldplay are what cold congealed gravy soaked Yorkshire puddings and boiled beef would sound like
Soy vegan burgers more like
Nasal crap
The musical equivalent of woodchip wallpaper
I don't like Alan McGee but I think he describes cold play as music for bed wetters and I think that sums them up
@@lozyoung4110 a magnolia one at that...
An hour of music critique without talking about music. But about social origin, image. My god
Dudes a 🤡
It's meant to be a laugh
Can't wait to see how many bands I love are on Andy's list!
Exactly. But as always, I will respect his opinion.
I agree with every one of his choices on that list!
I'd forgotten (thankfully) all about the truly insipid Lighthouse Family and dreadful Reo Speedwagon.
Pleased to see him call out the enormously overrated Ramones. Cool image and band name but not the songs to back it up.
@@Carboggg I can't think of too many Ramones tunes I don't like.
The Ramones were NOT posh boys. They were lower middle class kids from Queens, a not glamorous outer boro of New York City.
FYI in UK middle class means upper class (in USA standards), I learned that the hard way when I moved to UK. .
ie: Lower middle class UK= Upper middle class USA.
Workings class UK= lower middle class USA
Because the royalty are considered the upper class in UK, the next richest people in UK are called middle class (aka Upper class in USA). Confusing right?!?!?!
@@Strimbles thanks so much for the lesson! So much gets lost in translation.
Downright poor, from what I understand.
@@jimtoms7591so the story goes
Every time I listen to you...I regret ever finding your channel.
Radiohead started off as a pretty standard rock band but they had a very Beatle-like transition and kept changing their sound and made some pretty great music.
Pyramid Song is one of the greatest songs I've ever heard.I met them in 1992 and they were nice guys.Set up their own gear too.
can't agree about Marillion. they were fab during the Fish era and to me they were pretty much responsible for the re-birth of prog rock after being virtually killed off by Punk rock. they paved the way for other bands to follow such as Pendragon, Porcupine tree and hundreds more. i bought their CD's during the eighties which i regret now because i collect vinyls but having said that, the production of their CD's was superb. they descended into mediocrity once Fish left.
I must say, in these sensitive times, this is a breath of fresh air. Not necessarily because it's another hate-lists on RUclips but you articulate your bile beautifully. Probably doesn't hurt that I agree with you! You carry on, kid!
I disagree. If he basis his hate partly on band members names, it’s shite.
This was a shit-show, extraordinaire
Hey andy, I'm an American war vet, who grew up in rural Maryland. And I would vote for the Andy party if we could get it over here
Grew up near Baltimore.
It's all good here in America. enjoy your first minority female president:) She going to send traitor Trump to prison where he belongs.
@@dewdew34 past Hagerstown for me
@@jfiery My niece lives around Westminster , there's no houses for sale , everyone keeps them in the family. Like the past...
Entertaining as always. You are spot on about Reo Speedwagon, The Foo Fighters, Simply Red. I hate blandness too. Coldplay should have been on there along with U2.
Kiss, Kiss, Kiss and Kiss.
i liked KISS when I was eight. I outgrew KISS...now I cannot stand them.
Totally agree....... all glitz and very little musical satisfaction
Great image. Never wrote a decent song
yup 100%
@@DavePaint Agree. Some school friends went to see them round about the time of Destroyer. They raved about the gig, so eventually I borrowed the album. I was impressed with the album cover, but the music was nothing. By-the-numbers boring hard rock. It was purely their image and the stage show that sold the albums.
I remember a line in Monty Python and the Holy Grail where the army yells, “Get on with it!”
It was "Skip a bit, brother..." :)
Absolutely 100% correct. We are all busy people, seriously!
hahaha, yeah theres a bit of that going on here . maybe not so much exposition and qualifying.but largely I agree with him though
Also, maybe don't have a conversation while you are eating.
Yep.
Blah-blah-blah.
Gah. Honestly, if I wanted to waste my time listen to blather, I'd turn on cable news.
I love it.... lightly.....no totally!!! You crack me up. Way to go, I'm a new fan. 😂 ❤
You need to listen to 'Telegraph Road' off the "Love Over Gold" album and the "Making Movies" album. Dire Straits did not make a bad album, and arrived during that era when a lot of the music business started to strip down the progressive dial in the studios with punk and electronica. Dire Straits had no category you could spin them into. They were not retro rock like The Stray Cats, nor glam/prog like Ultravox or Roxy Music, nor pop. They stood out because there was nobody like them, and the guitar playing and arrangements were always excellent with impeccable sound. You need to take a real listen. Thanks for the segment and humor.
Yes. To link them with a band like Simply Red shows Andy has lost a lot of credibility.
love over gold is pure genius
Making Movies is a masterpiece. Truly a cinematic (no pun intended) experience.
Love Dire Straits ❤Mark Knopfler is one of my favourite guitarists
"I have no interest in this band, .. but I do hate them" u r da best!
Bon Jovi, Bon Jovi, and Bon Jovi. Living on my hair.
ohhhhh we're half way queer
@@Les537Ohhh oh! Extensions in your hair!!
Yes, that one he surely forgot to include!
LMAO 😂stop please. I'll never hear that song the same again
Wings! absolute garbage, fingernails on a blackboard.
Train
Coldplay
Marilyn Manson
Nickelback
Imagine Dragons
Simply Red (apparently called that because they're from Manchester)
Lyte funky ones (LFO)
Florida Georgia Line
good list, here's mine: Radiohead, Coldplay, Green Day, Kiss, Bon Jovi, Poison, Nickelback,FFDP, RHCP post-HIllel.
Its ok to hate, we aren't snowflakes
One band absolutely no-one can ever hate: Thin Lizzy.
I would agree.
Rather a band ANYONE can easily love.
I agree
Except those who hear The Boys Are Back In Town or Dancing In The Moonlight on the radio for the millionth time.
They were TERRIBLE.
I miss the list on the left. I vote to bring it back.
obviously he doesn't want us speeding ahead.
@@MikeM-uy6qp yeah that's kinda what i guessed, but i want it back lol
@@pickenchews same here. none of this warrants the time.
Dave Grohl = "the Max Bygraves of rock", Mick Hucknall = "a putrified scotch egg" - haha!
Ironically, the drum intro to "Money For Nothing" was the only drumming on Brothers In Arms that the great Omar Hakim DIDN'T do - it was played by Terry Williams who rejoined the band for the subsequent tour.
I appreciated how pertinent your preamble was in these troubled times Andy. Good on you.
This single vid has to make you love Omar Hakim's drumming:
ruclips.net/video/hBNcKZ8Oh34/видео.html
I loved Terry Williams when he was Man's drummer though.
Dire Straights-example of a good but - to me- boring guitarist.
Andy instantly losing credibility for not recognising the songwriting genius of the Pet Shop Boys
Agree
Barf
But what good is "song writing" when what comes out the speakers is so rotten. ( West end girls is OK but that is it)
Electronic music fan here
@@sbwlearning1372 Being Boring? Liberation? Red Letter Day? Miracles? Love is a Bourgeois Concept? What are we going to do about the rich? Yesterday when I was mad? Rent?
These are gorgeous.
@@synaesmedia Respectfully, not to my ears. I have tried to listen but their music just doesn't float my boat.
My heart sank a little when you mentioned Marillion! Got into them in late 80s and more or less stuck to that period (got a couple of albums with the new singer). I got into Genesis around the same time. As a drummer I was fairly impressed with Ian Moseley and still do a few things stolen from him to this day. Also the original Dire Straits drummer Pick Withers was really good imo. He got out of it when they got bigger, didn't like the direction, so I'm with you on that band and also fond of the song Brothers in Arms!
The class anger is hilarious... Love it
A man fluent in clickbait, like yourself, is hardly going to settle for "bands I have no time for and find pretty annoying" now is he?
Kinda the same thing…
pretty _bloody_ annoying
laughter ........ brilliant comment. I'm only here because when the brits say "bloody" it sounds like they really mean it.
Bunch of channels who figured out or got told there's a form of algorithm-friendly whining one trick ponyism, extremely tawdry and obnoxious. Yawn. At least there are functions for blocking them from getting recommended.
@@zendakk Andt here you are increasing the "engagement", as am I, but at least I'm not yawning about it.
Rocket to Russia is an amazing Ramones album
It's my favourite for sure.... It has all the energy of the first two albums with better recording and better songwriting. It's sad to say because it was so early in their career but I think it was their peak. Road to Ruin feels like the start of the downturn.
Who could dislike "Rockaway Beach"?
I like the title.
@@IzunaSlap And "I Wanna Be Sedated".....brilliant ! 😃
@@IzunaSlap Andy, because apparently they're too posh.
Totally agree with your choices 100%… May I suggest a few honourable mentions [all Scottish] Deacon Blue, Travis and wet wet wet, n’est pas..? 😂
10 - 4:49
9 - 10:13
8 - 16:48
7 - 19:53
6 - 25:14
5 - 30:25
4 - 45:40
3 - 33:44
2 - 38:00
1 - 40:38
Reported
@@Stringer13ell Joke?
Thank you...I have add....
Simply Red's hit "If You Don't Know Me By Now" was a cover. The office manager David Brent covered it in an episode of The Office. Simply Red's cover is what he covered.
Thanks!
The factor that makes the music of the Ramones interesting was Joey, a gawky, autistic guy that figured out a way to turn all the qualities that got him beaten up at age 12 into something cool. And it was very, very cool.
Mental dispositions figure little in my appreciation for music, you can "aw well done you" all you want they were still overrated shite
Except that they weren't REMOTELY the first.
Ask anybody like me - who's old enough to remember the Stooges getting spit on at almost every gig they played during their 'Raw Power' tour in 1973.
Love ❤️ his version of satchimo's "WONDERFUL WORLD"
I like the Ramones. The first few albums sound like a souped up version of those sixties Girls Groups, but with lyrics about pinheads, dysfunctional families and shock treatment instead of The Clapping Song. They're more Rock and Roll than Rock. They seem like pre-Beatles and Dylan pop songs recast for a less positive era.
Don’t bother trying to explain it. As Strummer used to say, “It ain’t for those who don’t understand”
Marillion's "Clutching At Straws' is a masterpiece!✌️😉
Too bloody right
@@MikeRolls
😉🖖
Lots more masterpieces, Season's end, Brave, Afraid of sunlight, This strange engine, Marbles, Fear, An hour before it's dark.
@@franckb8279 Sorry, Van Hogarth is a no go.
@@franckb8279 sorry, there's no Fishless Marillion
If you saw Iggy and the Stooges in Detroit 1970 (and the MC5) like I did you would say yeah that's the origin of punk
Nope - not even those guys would've said that.
They would've directed you to the opening chords of 'You Really Got Me'
Even Townshend - who is CONSTANTLY credited as granddaddy - freely admits that he copped the riff from 'Can't Explain' from it.
It likely came from a think tank, like most other genres. Unfortunately
The Ramones' influences were basically all pre-hippie. Like the New York Dolls, they sounded a lot closer to the Kingsmen (or a rocked-up Herman's Hermits) than to the Stooges. You never heard the Ramones do a ten-minute dirge like We Will Fall on the first Stooges album.
@@IanmackableThat has as much to do with how the Ramones very cannily packaged themselves as it does with their obvious love of a pre - sandbox Brian Wilson.
Those guys went to catch the Dolls during their historic stand at the ill fated Mercer Arts, and they would later remark repeatedly in interviews over the years that they were struck by the theater of it all.
Staying in character - and always delivering the goods within a certain set of parameters - became a HUGE key to the enduring appeal of the Ramones.
It seems obvious enough to me - having caught them live virtually every chance I got from 1977 onward.
But not everybody gives them credit for that relentless discipline
It would be absurd to suggest that anybody ever even got the chance to pigeonhole the Stooges in the same fashion.
It just wasn't even on the table.
@@christophermoebs5514 iggyyyyy pop … Amen
10. Poshies
09. Yuppies
08. Estate Agents
07. Bank Managers
06. French Mustard
05. Middle Of The Roadness
04. Insipidness
03. Blandness
02. Cloth Hats
01. Americana
Ok Andy,
Here is a reminder! Music and bands that will last a 100 years. I also would like to add a wish, please do a video like a “Grand Tour” of European prog music. There are some manny great bands that deserve a bit of recognition. ❤
I am a music lover but I hate more music than I love...
I love music and even more I love complaining about music. It's great fun.
@@Les537
Very droll 😂
Dad ( Grandad ) Rock rools forever ! God we were bloody spoiled in the 70s .
Though every generatiion will think the music they grew up with ( 13 - 19 ) is the greatest of all hyperbolic time .
Except the current one . There is no way at 17 that I wanted to listen to music from the forties . But I regularly read in the comments , current teenagers ( Z ? ) saying /moaning that they werent growing up im 60s / 70s finding the hegemony of Ed Sheerbore , and the underpowered ( jaded) whispering from Drake . Swift is obviously a stellar phonomenen and kind of ok I suppose but nothing thats sounds life or death stuff ( Hendrix or Beatles Nirvana Sly Stone ) but then I would say that I will be 98 in September of this year .
P.S. Lana Del Ray rools !
Holy cow - let's hope so!
I love to love music, and I love to hate music.
@@jonunderscore I love finding new bands to hate even more than finding new stuff to love. I've recently got into hating reggaeton, Blues Traveler and The Dave Matthews Band. Not being American I'd never heard owt by the latter two till last monday. Andy would love these two.
Bands that will survive 100 years+ list. Remember, Andy.
ZAPPA WOULD TOP THIS LIST FOR ME. IMO THE MOST SINGULAR MUSICIAN OF HIS CENTURY 🎉
@@shadhansen739 Apart from the obvious Beatles/Stones, I'd say early Genesis & Yes. Floyd. The Who.
that would be interesting ,
Motorhead, Led Zep, i would even go Abba
Air Supply.
Oh this’ll be fun! 😊
Yeah. Negativity isn't cool and yet it's so fun! It's like a breakfast made exclusively out of bacon.
Jesus, my fifth post! I'll shut up now, but you are fun to comment back to. The Police are my favourite ever band too.
I received a laptop computer in 2008. I had never known computers. Hoo-boy. I discovered that I was a few decades behind. Now: There are YT channelers "of a certain age" whose computer moves I can actually follow. This is one of them.
Favourite put down..." The Eagles are a plastic dry f*ck " ..Gram Parsons .
The only way I would find an Eagles album useful is to use it to keep dust off my turntable …Tom Waits
Quality
Which is highly ironic coming from the guy who destroyed the Byrds.
The Eagles adjust awful. Overrated Brain numbing destroying generic music.i have so much hate for that band 🤬🤬🤬their torture to my ears🤣🤣🤣
Worst band ever.
I definitely agree with Mumford and Sons. It baffles me how they are more popular than the immensely more talented Fleet Foxes.
Yup- Fleet Foxes are amazing
Mumford and Sons had the sheer audacity to be unique.
Fucken love the Fleet Foxes- saw them last year
It’s what happens isn’t it, record companies find an easier listening and simplified version of the groups that shape the sound, happens in every genre
Milli Vanilli? Wham! ? Bucks Fizz? Guns ‘n Roses?
Excelent list
@@fernandodeleon7466Milli Vanilli was never a band. Both them (the actual people that made the music) and Wham had some of the greatest pop songs ever written. Completely don't agree.
not guns n roses please
@@klapsigaarenbasgitaar1931 well ... Wham was never a band either : Michael did everything. That's why he left.As for the songs ... mm ... too gay for me, and musically not that good.
'Wake me up ...' should never be recorded, it's a shame
@@admarhermans1 Guns N Roses made a great album
I subscribed because in every video of yours I've watched (about 7 of them, so far) you seem to imbue it with a love and a knowledge of music that i find very refreshing, even when I don't agree with your particular take... Also for the amazing British humor. But I've also come to admire the top-tier hatred for Americana. Well done.
If the you tube thing doesn't work out... Their's definitely a bright future in an REO Speedwagon cover band.
Totally agree with your #1 Andy. I've lost count of how many people I've told of my hate for Lighthouse Family. However, I'd have Wet Wet Wet at #2 for the very same reason, insipid crap !
brothers in arms is beautiful
That’s what I’m talking about! Absolutely perfect record
On Every Street too!!!!
I hate to wait for hate on a plate. C'mon give it to me! :) :) All the best, Andy!
Great attitude. Wish people weren't so serious about vids, and move to other music channels.
OMG I can't believe how accurately this fits my sentiments! :)
Although we may not agree on everything, brilliant commentary as always. BTW, great work with IQ. You are a very gifted drummer.
On 30 May 1988 I saw the Creatures (Siouxsie and Budgie) play their first comeback gig at the Garage at Highbury Corner. Afterwards, I got on the tube, and the carriage was full of people who had either been at the Creatures, or had been at Wembley Arena to see the Shitehouse Family. Those who had seen the Creatures all looked hot and sweaty, and all had huge smiles on their faces. Those who had seen the Shitehouse Family all looked bored shitless!
The Creatures are a great band; even better than the Banshees for me.
Mostly good choices. What about Wet Wet Wet? They must have been at number 11. Syrupy white soul pop that makes me want to puke.
S Club 7. Fuckin perky goody two shoes pop sang in American accents.
I was at that gig; John Cale made a guest appearance and played viola on "Venus in furs" and a couple of others songs if I'm not mistaken.
mumford and sons sounds like a removal firm.
Or a funeral parlor.
2000s hipster bait that spawned the crappy folk phase of music that made me cringe..
@@brendonlake1522 I dunno Fleet Foxes, Bon Iver, Grizzly Bear. Some good bands.
@scottmuir5773 I'm sure there were some folk bands from the era are probably decent it just felt like every man and his dog were jumping on the band wagon including James Blunt, train, AVICCI....
‼Andy make a video about bands who'll be remembered in the future 👍🏻
How the hell I missed this channel before?! Thanks to God we have subtitles here, and I'm able to break through this magic british accent 😂
Just discovered yr videos here in 🇨🇦🇨🇦…I’m totally hooked…funny, insightful…..thanks for these…DON’T STOP! ❤️🤍❤️
"Jeremy Clarkson style dad rock" that is beautiful
However, Jeremy loves ELP and Genesis.
@@daicullinane7746 A broken clock is right twice a day
@@daicullinane7746 exactly
@@SzcZ i would like anything he likes, the man loves cars and no bs
I worked a bar with that REO song on the jukebox and iot used it skip on the line “I don’t wanna sleep- i dont wanna sleep- i dont wanna sleep…” and the only way to stop it was to unplug the machine.
Love it. Your dislike of marillion is personal which is a shame
Nah.
Disliking something should be impersonal ?
I had a boss who once worked in a hotel where Marillion stayed whilst on tour. Somehow Fish (real name Derek Dick) managed somehow to annoy him. As a result he referred to Fish as Mr Dick, eg "Certainly Mr Dick", "What paper do you want in the morning Mr Dick. "
The only time I saw Marillion was at the Theakson Music Festival in 1982. They were one of the support bands to Jethro Tull. I found them so boring I fell asleep. When I woke up, the beer tent had closed so I may have been the only person who was there who didn't have a drink of beer.
Wang Chung (or Huang Chung as they were then) were on the same bill. Their lead singers voice broke and their synths all broke down.
@@johnelwen4435Amazing that the Wang Chung singer was in a pro band at the age of 13😁
@@acoustically9201 Just looked him up. He was 26 in 1982.
@johnelwen4435 haha, I remember all that! Were they the band who were playing along to a backing track, but their tape machine broke so they had to call it a day?
@@LCD72 It was the keyboards that packed in. The guitars and drums were still playing. They spent a short while trying to get them going again whilst playing on without them. Then cut the set short.
My recollection of the late seventies and early eighties was that if bands used a backing tape, they were upfront about it. I remember gigs where the band had the tape machine on stage with them.
I love your rants, Sir!
Thanks for this. After watching the news I needed cheering up.
I laughed out loud many times.
And I found my self agreeing with a lot of what you said 😂
Don't judge REO Speedwagon by their 80's stuff, just like its unfair to judge Yes or Genesis by their 80's crap. Listen to the live version of "Ridin' the Storm Out" and "Roll With the Changes" ...or watch the video. Gary Richrath was a great guitar player.
Truth! Saw them in 79 in Houston and they kicked ass. Thank god for Rockpalast who preserved that tour on film. REO at their peak. The 80s ballad fad killed many a band. I blame Dennis de Young for that😊
The double Live is good.
REO Speedwagon is underrated as a band. I think their 80's stuff is just fine. Hi Infidelity was a good album. Unlike Andy, I harbor no hatred towards them.
Hi Infidelity is the single worst piece of crap ever over produced - my friends and I started a club that defenestrated this album if we found it in people's homes and we were all REO fans
The Ramones released 2 albums before any of those British bands released anything.
yeah, very hard to hate the ramones. maybe you don't like their music, but hating those guys? impossible.
First fart wins?
Pet Shop Boys, yuppies? Weren't they very left wing? The line 'Che Guavara and Debussy to a disco beat...' And didn't they play live in Trafalgar Square as they projected a Soviet, Socialist Realist movie by Eisenstein?!
They were gay communists before it was popular.
Being left is not what it is cracked up to be. Look at the state of the world today.
That was the worst thing to happen to the "left" since Billy Bragg
I used to like Billy Bragg. When I was 12
The Left have always been funded by oligarchs. The Oligarchs invented the Left.
leftists became yuppies
Dire Straits is a tough one. I grew up in a family where Dire Straits was seen as 'good, proper music' (at least for rock music). Even from friends at school around me, it was the band that you like if you are really into music. And as a kid in the 80's I was aware of a lot of horrendous music being played on the radio (80's production at its worst, drum machines, even at the time I instinctively appreciated music being played by people, in the same room, that's why I was fascinated by bands more than solos artists). Dire Straits was fulfilling that role.
Now 35 years later, I've realised that it all comes down to being exposed to music. You develop your taste and appreciation for difference types of harmony, and what sounds very beautiful when you were 15 starts sounding bland after you've heard it a million times. I didn't listen to Dire Straits for a good 30 years (didn't even think of Dire Straits, like they were erased from existence). Yet in recent years I have occasionally gone back to listening to Dire Straits, as there are some songs that I find to be really good compositions (especially the albums Communique, Making Movies, Love Over Gold), but I've also come to the conclusion that Mark Knopfler's singing is a chore to listen to (and FYI I'm a huge fan of Bob Dylan), that the songs could be delivered in a much better way and be more engaging. It is a thought that never crossed my mind before (it was just part of the sound of Dire Straits), I do think he's very talented but it's not a reason to be exempt from criticism.
Another fab rant! Bonus points for the Trading Places pic to represent the Lighthouse Family 🤣👌
When I googled them, that came up, I don't know why, I thought it would do, and no one would nice
My nephew was friends with Chris Martin at university. He stayed at my Brothers house and was fed Pizza, and apparently was a very nice man.
I enjoyed their first hit, Yellow, but that was it. I went back to my weird Crap.
yes.. Yellow.. then I was done.
@@lornestein7248 😄 How quickly we got bored!
All you need is hate!
😃
A popular clasic song by "The Fuc***g Stones".
HATE, PEACE AND UNDERSTANDING
The Ramones were funny. I loved the humor of the band, their energy and their sound, which dismissed all the showy guitar solos of the day, pissing off all the pretentious prissy frat boys. 🤘
Here they are live in London in 1977.
ruclips.net/video/Sp3zaeOyL7Q/видео.htmlsi=zOQcAGFpnsVAcZJS
Highly enjoyable rant!
As a 65 year old guitarist, I used to be obsessed with Dire Straights ,then I discovered Pat Metheny, it changed my whole outlook on music
NGL, I thought Coldplay were the posh version of Coldplay and Keane were the even posher version of Coldplay.
It would have been too easy to put Coldplay on this list, Keane is the edgier pick for a band to hate.
YNWA
Why would you waste your hate on The Lighthouse Family?
Because they were absolutely trash?
They absolutely deserve every bit of hate going
I still love the Marillion song Assassing!
Assassing (sic)?
@paulatB2B that's how it's spelled, the singer has no idea why he added the G.
Good heavens no.
Fantastic! Brilliant idea for a video, and the 1-man VoxPop straight afterwards is a cool special touch.
What someone hates is so much more interesting than what someone loves.
I actually LIKE all of the 10 bands you hate, but I don't LOVE any of them - maybe that says something.
I love REM, and suspected they might be on this list. I'm glad they're not.
What I find particularly funny about this video is that, despite the initial caveat, the expression of hate for these bands (especially the top 5) is substantial. Andy, a master in Stanislavski's system.
Everything was going well, but you had to ruin everything. Dire Straits?! No one is allowed to hate Dire Straits!! Even not liking is a serious crime, but hating, NEVER!
PS - Put Queen in Dire Straits' place and the list will be perfect and I'll be able to give it a like.
Or rather put in Nickelback, or did they come up later?
@@gerhardvanderwesthuizen1261 Good thinking!
I like a few their songs a lot, especially 'Planet of New Orleans'.
Yeah I'm completely over Queen. Used to love em but they've been done to death. Can't even stand the sound of Freddy's voice now!
Dire Straights, dire music. Glorified pub band😂
I really enjoy your dialectical arguments with yourself in pursuit of an aesthetic precision that most likely doesn’t exist.
Aw no, Pet Shop Boys are one of my favorite groups. I don't think you really get them and that's okay, they're not for everyone. But their lyrics are full of wry irony and wit. And Chris Lowe's arrangements are masterfully constructed, nuanced and magical. Chris' outward appearance of not doing anything and just being the "other guy" who looks bored, is intentional and part of their aloof image. Neil Tennant will admit he isn't the strongest vocalist, but there is something comforting about his even, soft tenor and it's a very distinctive sound. I also love their passion for their craft and I think their popularity over the years is beyond warranted. They are constantly dedicated to their art and have released 15 studio albums, still successful and still charting. While they always retain their PSB sound, all of their albums have a different vibe and theme to them. There are so many bands that formed in the 80s that can never recapture the sound and popularity of their early days, but Pet Shop Boys never had that issue. But if you're not a fan and don't know their whole discography, I can see why one might have a distaste for them. They may be one of those groups where you have to really love them to understand them. The rest of your list is spot on (I especially can't stand Coldplay), I kind of have to like the Ramones though because I'm from NY.
Agree. But there is also a lot of other nonsens in this video. The Ramones posh?
Very stimulating! Prompts so many memories of my musical life from the early 80s onwards - everything from Tommy Vance, to Script for A Jester's, posh boy music, Sex Pistols etc etc. Even the annoying things are amusing. Thank you.
I almost hated this but then you went on a perfect Arry Enfield impersonation rampage! Love it!
Unbelievably there's one I agree with on here but it's not PSB. I just think you might have missed the point with West End Girls specifically as a record let alone them because the whole thing that makes it timeless (but also redolent of it's time) is that it sums up a REALLY AWFUL time but does it in very engaging way - I would also point out the track King's Cross (a favourite of mine) and the film It Couldn't Happen Here - becauss they're all trying to get the same reaction, with a nod and a wink - basically you either get the message or you don't really. If you like the same influences as the duo (be it films music or whatever else) then you're probably more likely to get the emotional response and that's more down to places and cultures than any personal angst that's being flogged.
As well as being great Pop writers and Tennant brilliant lyrics, they’ve usually included a few experimental tracks on every album - The Sound Of The Atom Splitting, The Way Through The Woods etc. even releasing their own 10 minute ‘Pop Prog’ epic ‘Cricket Wife’…
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True. I've got rather a lot of PSB stuff to catch up with actually they're so prolific!
Funny fact, I nearly ran over Mick Hucknall once, he was crossing the road, Shaftesbury Avenue in 1981 and I had to break hard not to hit him! I said to the young lady I was in the car with, "Look its Mick Hucknall" she said, "You nearly hit him!"
Better luck next time.
Difference between Mick Hucknall and a dead snake 🐍 in the road?... = "skidmarks in front of the snake"😮😅😂
I don’t think I hate any band. I’m just not interested in a lot of them, even some I liked in my youth and some that are quite popular.
Brilliant video, and absolutely hilarious.
The rambling rant we didn't know we needed 😵💫
Dire Straits ? REALLY ??? I heard their first album for the first time on a NYC FM station when it was first released as I was driving home from work. When I got home I said to my then gf 'Give me $10., which she did while asking 'Why, whats up ?". I replied 'You'll understand shortly, I'm heading to the record store, be back in a few'. What a great album that was !
snobby music critics I bloody hate 1. Andy Edwards
He must have hit a nerve.I agree with everything he hates.Youre free to disagree.
Pizz off then
The Ramones stripped every remaining hint of the blues from their version of rock. They make Status Quo sound like Robert Johnson.
Good show, I do't agree with all but I see your point. Good video with your friend in your garden.
I, too, thought REO Speedwagon was total cheese, and I wasn't very hyped to see them when they came to my town in 2004 on a triple bill with Styx and Journey (my *_real_* fave). But I've got to give them credit. REO put on a damn good show, and those power ballads really do hit hard at full concert volume with the whole audience singing along. In fact, both REO and Styx (neither of whom I had ever seen live) outshined Journey - the headlining band - and by quite a lot. Journey's singer, Steve Augeri (replacement for Steve Perry) was having trouble with his voice that night, and the setlist featured some older, more obscure Journey songs which really only Perry could ever pull off (Dixie Highway, etc.). Anyway, props to REO and Styx for bringing their A game that night. Cheers.