This is The Best Memory For Gaming on Ryzen 3000!
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- Опубликовано: 22 авг 2024
- Ryzen 3000 is finally out, And you might want to build a brand new rig, or even update the one you have right now.well, theres something that a lot of people overlook when buying computer parts and I have to admit, I’ve overlooked it myself. That thing is memory and today I’m diving deep into the perfect memory for gaming on Ryzen 3000! What is up guys i’m snows and this, is .. a different kind of boot sequence.
So you chose your CPU, it could be the R5 3600 which seem to be the perfect chip for gaming, or it could be the 3900x if you wanted a lot more cores and power.
You chose your case, your motherboard, your power supply, your storage,your RGB but now its time to make a choice about memory. Do you go for the cheapest 2133Mhz kit you can find, or do you go all out and buy a 4000+Mhz kit to make sure its the fastest it can be. Well, while ryzen 3000 has no problems running super fast memory, it doesn’t mean it's the best choice Or the best bang for your buck.
For the first 2 generation of Ryzen , the memory clock was synced one to one with the infinity fabric. So if your memory was at DDR4-2133 which is actually 1066Mhz,remember DDR means double data rate, your infinity fabric would also be at 1066Mhz. So the higher your ram speed the higher the infinity fabric. But it started to get unstable the higher you got which meant that DDR4-4000 on ryzen was extremely hard to achieve.
Now, with Zen 2, the memory can be decoupled very easily at a certain point. That specific point is between 3733Mhz and 3866. Once you cross that line you Infinity fabric speed get’s halved to compensate. At that point things like raw memory latency take a hit. But does it really matter ? Does latency truly make a difference in games. Well yes it does and Tech power up went through rigorous testing to find out which memory speed is best for Zen 2.
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I’m not sure if anyone else is feeling the same thing, but I’m not having an easy time choosing tbh
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exactly
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"It is gaming week after all"
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When I read this comment after waking up from a long nap post upload, I literally bursted out laughing. Thanks man!
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Every week is gaming week
@@BootSequence Hi there, I bought a Asus X570-E mobo + Ryzen 3900X. Was wondering if you know if CMW64GX4M4C3200C16 (4x16) Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro was compatible and stable. If not, do you have any other recommendation ? Thank for the help !
with all the ryzen 3000 stuff coming out, i had no idea ram speed made this big of a difference. This video was the perfect explanation i was looking for. Thanks
5-7% it's not big difference, waste of money.
@@montazownianr1 I'll take it though considering it's not that big of a price difference.
@@montazownianr1 It is though.
Yes bro make More video like this and can you make one about ram timings and latency. I love tech but I need to understand if them only I can make the correct purchasing decision.
I'll see if I can :)
@@BootSequence would be really nice :) im still on first gen zen and not sure if or when im gonna upgrade, but since even amd pointed out the importance of ram, i think there is gonna be demand for good informative videos on how to go about that.
haha but seriously, that trident z royal ram is ugly af, id be ashamed to let anyone see me sticking that into my mobo haha xD never been much of a computer bling guy anyway though.
Agreed. Would be great if you could explain CAS latency and why it improves performance and by how much, something i keep struggling with. It's hard to find good resources for this online.
Pukemonster
Im on the first gen ryzen too
I understood that on the first gen timings and speed are important but on the 3 gen you need only speed i hope to see more videos on this subject
Short, sweet, informative. Just what I needed. Kudos!
I enjoyed this. Not a lot of people are getting detailed about RAM in their benchmarks, so I'm glad you did.
You don't have to buy expensive fast ram. I have 16GB of G.Skill Trident Z 3200MHz CL 16 and after overclocking and tightening the timings it's running smoothly at 3466 CL 14
I had my eye on this RAM for my build, what timings did you get out of it?
@@MichaelCoombes776 Timings are CL 14 - RCDRD 17 - RCDWR 17 - RP 17 - RAS 30 - RC 38 - RFC 416 - 1T 3466 MHz @ 1.4 volts. I used Ryzen DRAM Calculator to get the best timings for my system. I can get my system to boot at 3533 MHz @ 1.5 volts, but it's not stable and 1.5 is too high for anything other than a quick benchmark.
What board are you using?
@@slim420MM I'm using the MSI B450 Gaming Pro Carbon AC, and my CPU is a R5 2600 overclocked to 4.15GHz @ 1.375 volts.
@@guitarprogrock Cool. My Asus x370 will not get over 3200 with the same ram.Time to upgrade.
Why hasn't ANY tech tuber noticed that Gskill came out with "TZRX" ram last year to run optimally for Ryzen, as opposed to their typical "TZR" ram
Added X on there almost doubles in price too.
because it's just a marketing gimmick... it could have been a real thing during the ryzen 1000 days due to poor RAM compatibility, but now that isn't so much the case.
As long as its Samsung B-dies, it will run the best on Ryzen CPUs
That part of this video at 3:58 is a MUST for every tech video. It provides clear recommendation for new to average PC users what is the best specs to go for. Great man!
Yay! My current memory will be perfect!
Rather than help me make my purchasing decision, you've validated that I placed the right order by instinct. 16GB 3600MHz CL17 for my 3900X + X570 combo that should arrive this week
just got 3600x x570 tuf mobo and g.skill trident z rgb 3200 cl of 15. the ram was on sale from newegg for $100
just got 3600
X570 Gigabyte Pro
A-Data 16gb (2x8) 3600/C17
So is it G.Skill TridentZ 3600 MHz - CL18 worse than CL 16 - 17 ? I am a bit confused.
Wich one from these two you guys will recommend?
www.computersalg.dk/i/4569758/corsair-vengeance-rgb-pro-ddr4-16
www.computersalg.dk/i/3274711/g-skill-tridentz-rgb-series-ddr4-16?sq=G.Skill%20TridentZ%20RGB%20Series%20
@@Bughy195 G.Skill TridentZ
They use both same RAM chips so paying extra for Corsair is not worth it.
Can't mess this up.
3200mhz CL16 is great ram.
Awesome! I already got the 2x8GB Trident Z RGB @3200 CL14 with (samsung b-die) from Ryzen 1st Gen and probably will stick with them and my Crosshair VI Hero with a new 3600X until I can upgrade the mobo.
I think it's a good idea to cover topics that others didn't. Most channels left for example the memory testing to a later vid, so I did not see that much info about that, even though I've watched (too) many Ryzen 3rd gen reviews. Also props for covering non-gaming stuff, too!
Yeah I loved this video style. Liked seeing you give a recommendation and definitely helpful info for Zen2 without flooding my feed with another unboxing/performance gpu or CPU testing video
I like how you actually explain why this is important and back it up with facts. I enjoyed your video and look forward to seeing more from you. Subbed! :D
Thanks for this! I'm about to go buy 3900.
@@BlacksRaven 3600 for moa
I think I’m just going to get a 3600 and upgrade to one of the higher chips later on.
Quick practical tip to help you choose: make a selection of several modules you like for their looks (trust me 🙂) and that are supported by your mobo. Then for each module calculate its ratio like so: divide the frequency by its CL and rank the result from hight to low. e.g. 3200 / CL14 = 228.6 and 3600 / CL17 = 211 The higher the result the better, so in this example 3200 CL14 is better. If there's a very close near-tie of a couple of points, the module with the higher frequency ranks over the one with a lesser frequency, so adjust the ranking accorindly. Now next to each module write down the price. Chosing is now simpler: the list is now ranked from highest performance to lowest with the price next to each, so pick the highest one that you can afford.
Hey Snows!!! VERY helpful info, I myself went with a 3900X paired with a X570 Asrock Taichi with an XSPC Watercooling kit with White Rads and CPU Block for cooling =) What a time to be alive. You may say overkill but the main things i will be doing is:
1. Virtual Machine Management,
2. Dual boot setup with WIN 10 & Linux OS to do some self training
3. Content Creation/Editing/Streaming
4. Gaming for me is last on this list.
Happy Tech Launch Month!!! xD
I have 3200 CL-16 on my current 470X/2700X setup. Judging from other comments it seems likely that I can OC and adjust timings closer to sweet spot so that is my plan.
John Bruce I think you're 100% correct with that plan, good luck my man.
Yep ! plus you're most of the way there. When I tried to OC my memory I went from 2400 to 2933. did not go well.
@@BootSequence Got my 3200 CL 16 kit tuned up to 3466 14-14-14-30 using my 470X/2700X combo. Now I just need my 3900X to arrive.
Just bought Gskill 3200 16D. Rip. Wish I saw this video earlier. Anyway, earned yourself a sub
can't you just tune it manually to get 3600
wow you're so clear and good and telling all the necessary information within a 5 minute video. More of this please! Oh and you've got me as a new subscriber ;)
Thank you!
I just bought corsair 3200 CL16 yesterday, i was having thought on buying the 3000mhz cl15 because of latency but thank goodness i do both productivity and gaming.
Would DDR4 3600 with CL19 Be better than DDR4 3200 CL14 For R7 3700x?
i think no :/ cause it's really bad timing for 3600mhz XD CL19 omg so big
3200 is much better, even the memory takes still bigger than 3600mhz
What about capacity? You mentioned the other specs but not capacity. Sure - most people will be fine with 2x8GB kits and speed wise that's the best configuration on most motherboards.
But some people need more. Like 32GB, 64GB or even 128GB. Yes 128GB is supported on X570.
Also there is different motherboard configurations. Most use daisy chain memory laypout meaning 2 sticks work best there but some use T-Topology layout that are optimized for 4 stick operation. The only X570 that is T-Top that i know of is AsRock Taichi.
Also Samsung recently released 32GB sticks meaning you can actually get 128GB 2666Mhz for under 700$. Buildzoid also tried to overclock these. They did pretty well at 3600Mhz.
Good post. Love the raw numbers and dollar amount. Ram speed is important for gaming, but for productivity it is crucial.
Thanks for making this. I've felt like RUclips has been scarce on this topic even since ryzens initial launch. Very helpful.
Can't believe I spent almost $600CAD on 32GB of 3200MHz G.Skill Flare-X :( Prices were insane a couple of years ago
i spent 170$ on 32gb/3200mhz of Corsair Vengeance Pro last week huehue. I feel your pain when i build somewhere near to the end of cryptocurrency
@@lucasgulild yeah those early first gen Ryzen builds had so much promise until you factored in the GPU and RAM. The 1080Ti wasn't cheap either :(
@@bfvader thats the only reason im not hopping into something new right now.
@@TheDarkToes Seems like a much better time to buy than the tail end of the "crypto-crisis", lol. The potential NAND flash shortage is worrisome tho.
@@bfvader well, cpu wise i think we are currently in a VERY healthy market, from both companies, ram has also gone down in price reasonably from last year, but graphics cards for anything beyond 1080p is absolutely insane. I remember when you could build a near top of the line rig for the price of one damn component today.
Its absolutely asinine to buy a 70 series card for what they are asking, much less the $1300 flag ship.
I'm glad I invested in 3200 CL14. :)
G. Skill Flare X That is 100% the one you have and that is the same one I have. Am I right?
Short and direct to the point. Just what I was looking for. This video was awesome and exactly the information I needed to build my ryzen rig. Thanks.
Finally, some easy-to-understand and relevant data regarding RAM for Ryzen 3000.
Ryzen 5 3600X with Gigabyte X470 Gaming 5 Wi-Fi MB with G.Skill Sniper 3600 2x8. Liked your video.
why not Patriot Steel Viper 16GB, 3600mhz CL16 for about 100$ ?
@@user-ou2cx9ui1z Because I already have the G.Skill Sniper 3600 for $69 NewEgg
Was searching for an answer to this exact question before my upgrade from 4690k to 3700x. Thanks 😊
no problem :)
There are so many videos of ryzen memory sweet spot on RUclips.
The difference in this one is that he actually goes right in to it , and not adding 25 more minutes of useless information! Hurray.
Thank you for your video!
on point, thank you for not waisting everyones time. subscribed
For a second I thought I was watching Austin at the beginning of the video xD
Hey guys this is not Austin ☺️
@@BootSequence you made my day sir :D
Awesome video by the way. Currently building a pc and now I'm going for 3200 cause I think the price premium is not worth it.
Dont forget about ur mobo. Check the maximum speed it can run.
my mobo is b450 gaming carbon ac , it says on the page that it can reach 3466 mhz (by a-xmp OC mode) which means i can't reach over the figure right ? im running R5 3600 with this mobo and corsair vengenance pro 3000 cl 16
@@dustinjowen4427 correct, in this case its obv limited by ur actual ram speed by the looks of it, not ur motherboard
Fearzzy yea tks for replying ,i guess 3466 ram speed is still rock comparing to 3600 ,the differences are negligible :3
@@Fearzzy il use b450m gaming plus which 3466mhz . so with ryzen 5 3600 i can oc to 3600mhz-3733mhz ?
@@ruciferu93 www.msi.com/Motherboard/B450M-GAMING-PLUS/Specification u can oc to 3466, thats ur oc. ur board atm can't do 3600
Super helpful dude, Thanks for looking into this for us.
Just for writing most of your dialogue in the description alone, I subscribed. Thanks man.
Bought 3700x pairing with 3200mhz cl14 32 gb of ram and crosshair 8 hero. I have the parts but i want to finish ac odyssey first before reinstalling windows :D
Haven't been able to test Ryzen 3000 yet but hoping my 32gb 3200mhz CL16 kit will do just fine
looks quite like it !
You running 2x16 or 4x8 for your 32gb of ram? I was reading that Ryzen 3000 seems to do better with 2x16 over 4x8 but I hate having empty DIMMs in my computer. Hoping we seem reviews with both these set up soon.
@@Heartlesslink100 2x16gb sticks, its cheaper than 4x8gb and leaves room to upgrade so that's why I went with it.
Thanks for the video, deff helped my decision. Kept it simple for us!
I don't know who you are, but I just subbed. Always keep it short, precise and too the point. I love it.
I got a 3900x and I'm looking to put it in a GIGABYTE X570 AORUS MASTER but I haven't bought the board yet so I'm open to recommendations.
Just browse the 3900x combo deals on newegg rn
x570s are too expensive, try researching if a x470 or x370 or b450 will do
Yeah and then forgo all the benefits lol
*INVESTIGATE THE CHIPSET FAN NOISE!!*
I have an R9-3900x on order but after much research I'm getting the Asus Strix X470-F Gaming board. I don't care about the extra M.2 bandwidth or top PCIe bandwidth (though you should if you do productivity as the PCIe v4.0 matters in some situations).. my top reasons I'm not getting X570 is:
1) cost (since there's minimal added value for me)
2) CHIPSET FAN is very noisy (varies a lot but I've dealt with this in the past)
3) CHIPSET FAN might die in the future and be a hassle to replace
4) motherboards, like many things, improve in general as production continues, issues are found, then the production issues are fixed (so a brand new X570 board is more likely to have problems than a brand-new X470 board that is a similar type and of similar parts)
Ryzen 2k sweet spot is 3000 mhz
Ryzen 3k sweet spot is 3600 mhz
Does the latency matter ?
@@Particle-001 it does matter extremly to the point where a 3200mhz kit with cl14 can outmatch 3600mhz cl16, you can even get same results when you get a 2400mhz kit with low cl timings and then overclock the infinity fabrik.
the lower the latency the better.
Just buy 3200MHz CL14 and Overclock it to 3600MHz with CL15-15-15-28. This is the best sweet spot so far. Or try CL14-15-15-28, but u will need more voltage
@@xXPLMCXx
Ist completely safe to manually OC RAM for long time ??
So far i only use Auto OC from Bios
Z Rus yeah you should not be worried. You can use 24/7 voltages until 1,45-1,47V. 1,4V would be perfect for a little bit oc
First video of yours that I have seen. Instant subscription. Ill be around for more of your excellent content. This helped a lot.
The best info I've got compared to other youtubers lol very straight forward for what you're gonna do.
3000mhz cl15 kit from corsair or gskill are pretty reasonable.
I concur. I ended up getting a 3200mhz cas 16 kit by gskill for $80
Your monitor is amazing. please tell me, which monitor do you use?
AMH 399U
Great simple explanation! Now I know what to look for. Not like those other videos that explain ram but then had to go back to like "first of all what is a pc?" Like wtf.
Getting ready to pick up a Ryzen 3700x. Finally found a video with a straight forward answer on what RAM speeds I should be looking for. Looks like I'll be getting this kit F4-3600C16D-16GTRSC. Thanks for the vid, got yourself a SUB.
Great! Thanks for the support!
So basically getting a 3200 at 14 latency and then overclocking it will yield the best performance.
We need more tests about 3600 Mhz cl 16 vs 3733 CL 17 and 3866Mhz...vs 4000Mhz CL 18
very nice quality for relatively small channel. nice work
This video is actually very helpful, gonna share in all build forums.
I am using a 2400Mhz kit overvlocked to 3333MHz (CL 16-17-17-34)
I bought Predator 3333mhz CL16 ...hope it overclocks little bit
Holy shit thats a fat overclock.
wow, just wow,
@@RetroJaysFTW well if its 2400 CL14 kit it probably can overclock
@@lifemocker85 it depends on what CPU and Mobo kit you are using much more than the RAM kit itself
G.SKILL Trident Z Neo 3600 14-15-15-35 are the best :D
I saw that too. Probably the way I'm going
Got some 3000 a while back for cheap which seems like a good idea now. Thanks for the info!
Yes, I truly enjoyed this type of video! These are the types of nitty-gritty details that are hard for some of us to remember sometimes. What about 3200 Cl16? Huge difference from CL14? I got a great deal on 2x8GB... thanks, dude!
the thing is, the performance gain for XMP profiles is so freakin low, you should OC the memory using the "RYZEN DRAM calculator"... putting all those timing and V, then you can se the REAL difference in those frequencies, this test shows nothing, really, buying higher frequency RAM on a XMP profile doesnt change anything really, the difference is really low, as you said, 5%... but overclocking it manually is the real deal.. get back to work and do a proper freq test
*Ah, a fellow 9 year old*
a fellow GAMER !
@@BootSequence WHAT?!
THIS IS THE VIDEO I WAS LOOKING FOR!!!!
I got a Ryzen 9 3900X. I put it in a Asus Crosshair Hero VI. I am using 32GB of FlareX 3200 CL 14 RAM. If you put it in a X370 motherboard I would recommend manually adjusting some of the voltages because they run a little high. I was using the lower voltage settings that Jayz2Cents used on his Ryzen 9 3900X video. I'm just running at stock speeds currently.
G. Skill Flare 3200mhz 14.14.14.34 CL
Enough said.
Do you think FlareX would be better than Ballistix 3600 CL16?
@@Daniel-oe5dz I would say yes. Just because 3200mhz is perfect but that low CL is best.
@@CrashBashL and you can easily OC it to 3444.
@@robertbalkovec4087 yes but then you can't keep CL 14.14.14.34
@@CrashBashL also true. So in the end, what would you take for Ryzen 3700X for best performance?
I want to learn more about that AMD PCIe 4.0 and its benefits.
5gb of transfer rates that's all
Same as 3.0, but its now 4.0 tada its better.
@@TheDarkToes oh man, thanks for the info!
@@HawkSea no but really its the same physical slot, but its twice as fast, backwards compatible all the way down to 1.0. Every new whole generation of pcie is twice as fast as its previous generation.
@@TheDarkToes right on, ready to see what Samsung does with it.
Good call ;) A lot of people get VERY confused when it comes to RAM buying. Timings are king after a certain frequency.
Great content! I think this is a question that has been on a lot of minds and you cleared it up nicely here. Subbed :) ps I hope as zen2 matures we see increasingly better memory support and performance like we did with zen1
I wish 3200 cl14 16gb would be 115$ or less lol.
i wish i could get 3200 cl14 under 250€ lol
You cant see so much diference in real life game. Just buy good gpu an use dual channel 16gb around 3000hz ram you should by good.
ive got lpx 2x8gb 3000 cl15. would that go well?
that looks good. As long as its over 2400 16, you should have some nice upgrade.
@@BootSequence ok thanks! Coming from a r7 1700 so cant wait
Very informative mate. Thank you. I made the mistake of buying 3600mhz ram while I have a R7 2700x, coupled with a gig x470 mobo. I was almost considering grabbing the R5 3600 so I could utilise my 3600 ram. Plus I use my pc purely for gaming
Thank you so much for this video. Clean, great, straight forward information that I was looking for. I highly appreciate it!
Too bad i bought the hyperX 3200mhz too early 😅
If its cl14 you more then good to good stick with that
i needed this, thanks bro. you deserve more subs.
$134 for a kit that can overclock to 3733 mhz CL16 at 1.4 volts F4-3400C16D-16GSXW
b-die
Remember though once you exceed 3600 memory speed you'll need to manually set the infinity fabric because it decouples and you still want your infinity fabric and memory to be in sync for max performance
Hey first vid i watched and just want to say i appreciate the canadian dollar pricing! Keep up the good work!
Cool details. Really helpful for me. Thanks!
I liked what you did, my friend... more content like that will bring me back!
The 3200MHz kits at 14T seem to be the sweet spot but they're pretty expensive as well. I'd recommend getting a cheaper kit, attempting oc and if you can't get there get it close enough and be happy you saved 200 bucks.
This was very helpful and straight forward. Thank you
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Very much appreciate the breakdown. I don't always have time to watch an hour long video where they go through each test in detail. Most of the time I just want the results.
I LOVE THIS VIDEO. it gives a lot of sense to information that I kept wondering.
This was a fantastic, high quality video, like some of the big name tech channels. You gained a sub, keep up the great info.
Seen the intro.. Subscribed.. Nice work.
Nice! Thank you! No meaningless babble! To the point! Clear articulation and loud enough! I liked!
great content dude! though i would suggest to avoid using red backgrounds with a white text because it kinda irritates our eyes but overall you did a good job into cramming a short video with lots of information. thanks
i have a pretty decently large sized screen and your red background at times hurts my eyes bro. its almost unnecessary because you could just as easily use a black background with some colorful dots and stuff and it would look much easier in the eyes. GREAT VID THO very detailed
First video I watched and made everything make sense! Easily liked and sub. Keep doing this great work!
Thank you man... Really nice video.
This looks great for me. I recently ordered a PC with 3000 MHz CL15 RAM, and am planning to upgrade to Zen 2 in 2-3 years when it's really cheap (maybe Zen 3 if it's still compatible with B450/AM4, but I don't expect it will be). I shouldn't have to worry too much about bottlenecking by CPU with my RAM, and (if any games I want to play over the next couple of years need it, or if browsers keep increasing their memory demands), I should be able to double up to 32GB for pretty cheap at that point as well.
This guy is smart. I subscribed the Boot Sequence when I first watched the Boot Sequence video because it was quite different from other tech reviews which are usually rambling bumbling on and on and on. After watching this vodeo today, I'm thinking this man is just smarter than other RUclips tech reviewers.
thanks man :) It's greatly appreciated!
It really did make things much more clearer
very nice content, which RAM for Ryzen 3000 was a quesiton i wondered. Just subbed to this channel
very useful breakdown. subbed.
Great video, it explains a lot in such a short time, thanks!
Placed my order today. Looking forward to build my first gaming rig by myself. Hope I don't fuck it up my first ever PC build. Specs:
CPU: Ryzen 3700X
MOBO: ROG Strix X570-E Gaming
GPU: EVGA 2080 Super FTW3
RAM: G.Skill Trident Z Neo 32gb (2X16) 3600mhz CL16 kit
Storage: Samsung 970 EVO Nvme 250GB + Aorus PCIE4.0 Nvme 1TB + Samsung 970 QVO SATA 1TB
Case: Corsair Crystal 570X
PSU: Seasonic Focus Plus 850W Gold
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master MA610P
Thermal Paste: Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut
this video was really informative and easy to undertand, I understood everything very simply, recommended for anyone
Thanks Boot, Im about to buy and this is going to be helpful.
very relevant info thanks !