AMD 3900X Overclocking explained... How to get improvements!

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  • @enigma067
    @enigma067 5 лет назад +1991

    Jay, you need a video series that explains all the settings in BIOS. This information is scattered all over YT.

    • @BLOEDVLEK
      @BLOEDVLEK 5 лет назад +43

      Way too many variables between platforms. Best thing to do is look up a guide for your specific board. If you can't find one head on over tot he overclocking forums.

    • @denverbasshead
      @denverbasshead 5 лет назад +27

      Thats almost impossible. Every manufacturer calls settings different names, every bios is different from each one. Look up your board or at least your manufacturer

    • @rdmz135
      @rdmz135 5 лет назад +4

      Different manufacturers have different bios layouts and names. Actually hardcore overclocking has most of them covered on his channel.

    • @OggeM92
      @OggeM92 5 лет назад +7

      Even though Buildzoid have all the tutorials and walkthroughs of the bios settings, I think Jay would explain it better for the masses.

    • @PureTazr
      @PureTazr 5 лет назад +1

      What motherboard do you have?

  • @cynicalvibes_8193
    @cynicalvibes_8193 5 лет назад +418

    “Gets sponsored by NZXT”
    Uses corsair cpu cooler

    • @DogeRider985
      @DogeRider985 4 года назад +4

      Top 10 anime betrayed

    • @Snowcrash777
      @Snowcrash777 4 года назад +3

      NZXT likes to screw other manufacturers out of sales by forcing you to buy NZXT specific parts. He should have thrown the EVGA 280mm AIO on it and really pushed their buttons.

    • @ChronicTHCBlaze
      @ChronicTHCBlaze 3 года назад

      Lol 😂

    • @Netsurferz12
      @Netsurferz12 3 года назад

      yea i was like how do he get 37c with m22, thats what im using and mine is around 50 in idle even when i have my power management plan on power saving.

    • @Haloreach66850
      @Haloreach66850 2 года назад

      Ok

  • @coltsfan1518
    @coltsfan1518 5 лет назад +137

    A single video explaining all the bios settings in depth would be great. But yeah, loving my 3600x

    • @d-o-n-u-t
      @d-o-n-u-t 4 года назад +5

      problem with this is, a lot of BIOSes are constantly changing and are just laid out much more differently makes a guide like this a lot harder to make.

    • @lildvsvevo
      @lildvsvevo 4 года назад +2

      @@d-o-n-u-t a lot of the basics for AMD bioses are generally the same, with some things renamed here or there. My Gigabyte a320 bios is similar to my x570 bios even. Tackling at least team Red's bios setup wouldn't be too hard to explain and map out in a video for a general idea at least, especially since the hardware all functions on the same general features/firmware

    • @GoodayBrah
      @GoodayBrah 3 года назад

      Do your own research or even read the fucking manual.

    • @tamilashultz9676
      @tamilashultz9676 3 года назад

      Nice. I'm waiting on my 3900x :).

  • @Necrotic99
    @Necrotic99 5 лет назад +11

    I love the shirt!
    Anyone see him messing with us in the background during the performance charts by using his hand to make glasses?

  • @MyUnknown54321
    @MyUnknown54321 5 лет назад +112

    Riker: Use Ryzen sir? Picard: Engage number one.

  • @dtorg1246
    @dtorg1246 5 лет назад +270

    Jay: runs nzxt aio sponsor spot
    Also Jay: uses Corsair aio

    • @mo3ath9442
      @mo3ath9442 5 лет назад +6

      isnt that NZXT M22 cooler bad ? i've only heard bad reviews about it unless they updated it or something.

    • @prayfortheworld5500
      @prayfortheworld5500 5 лет назад +2

      @@mo3ath9442 its only 120mm so dont expect great cooling

    • @SpcLarge
      @SpcLarge 5 лет назад +11

      @@mo3ath9442 Yes, tech Jesus cut one open. They're bad.

    • @alexisv625
      @alexisv625 5 лет назад

      *_SAVAGE_*

    • @sirius4k
      @sirius4k 5 лет назад +1

      @@mo3ath9442 Can't be worse than Enermax.

  • @SovietGrazz
    @SovietGrazz 5 лет назад +11

    Love the metal background track!

  • @LORENSSIOK
    @LORENSSIOK 5 лет назад

    Thank you Jay for the hard work. Looking forward for the rest of the tests. Great content!

  • @johnbeer4963
    @johnbeer4963 5 лет назад +25

    i'll give you this Jay... when i saw "ryzen 3900x overclocking" i was like "oh, ok, Jay will know what he's talking about"

  • @N0N0111
    @N0N0111 5 лет назад +35

    Finally someone showing what is wrong MORE with all the bios settings on X570
    And yes, X470 had weird HIGH voltage setting on launch.

    • @Onewolfoc
      @Onewolfoc 5 лет назад

      Lol x370 ch6 latest bios 7106 first boot the board tried to shive 1.5 volts in and while boosting it still looks like its agressive as well as manual voltage control is a bit bugged

    • @JariSiemens
      @JariSiemens 5 лет назад +1

      1. Jay has ln2 mode enabled 3:32
      2. CPU boosts in UEFI

  • @hewitttt
    @hewitttt 5 лет назад +2

    I really enjoyed you going through the bios and explaining stuff. Always so well done :)

  • @brianyvar8312
    @brianyvar8312 5 лет назад +90

    7:40 love how Jayz is just blurred in the background being stupid lol

  • @chrisharford2949
    @chrisharford2949 5 лет назад +527

    Liked immediately for that glorious shirt he's wearing.

    • @I5ZQ8
      @I5ZQ8 5 лет назад +8

      Is it a star wars thing??

    • @pranavkolluri
      @pranavkolluri 5 лет назад +25

      @@I5ZQ8 Star Trek Next Generation

    • @Crutches_Bob
      @Crutches_Bob 5 лет назад +12

      @@pranavkolluri /woosh

    • @FrumpyPumpkin
      @FrumpyPumpkin 5 лет назад +1

      Omg you’re a fine human.

    • @dec1lent448
      @dec1lent448 5 лет назад +2

      Captain Jonathan Picard

  • @mdh.3421
    @mdh.3421 4 года назад +3

    IMHO This is one of your best videos in a long time. Thank you

  • @AldiRide
    @AldiRide 5 лет назад +3

    i'm curious, did ASUS by default left the ln2 jumper on....my maximus iv exteme did so....maybe if you turn ln2 mode off, the voltage did not crank that high.....my humble request, can you confirm this jay?

  • @mrothird
    @mrothird 5 лет назад

    Jay,
    Thank you again for all your content and keeping it very informational, but not low level. I love your videos and love the fact I can watch them while at work because "they are work related"

  • @UshioSorrows
    @UshioSorrows 5 лет назад +22

    it would be awesome if you could do the other 3rd gen ryzens aswell, a guide to OC, RAM's etc!

    • @alanestes1008
      @alanestes1008 5 лет назад

      I would love to see a RAM overclocking video. Every time I overclock my Corsair Dominator it becomes unstable.

  • @WulfboiGaming
    @WulfboiGaming 5 лет назад +9

    That shirt!! OMG I LOVE IT!! Picard is always gonna be my captain of choice in anything Star Trek.

  • @8ight8allz4
    @8ight8allz4 5 лет назад +2

    Jay, you sure that your ln2 switch on the mobo is in the right position ? the default settings are like its activated

  • @arthb2087
    @arthb2087 4 года назад

    One of the best explanations on you tube, looking forward for mere and more details

  • @preacherbill
    @preacherbill 5 лет назад +83

    Sponsored by NZXT, AIO, Corsiar AIO next shot, lol

  • @noodlefu_
    @noodlefu_ 5 лет назад +15

    Jay, the BIOS is designed to run at high clock voltage - it doesn't engage cc6 (sleep/low power state), hence the high temperature. Robert Hallock confirmed this today on Reddit.

    • @happygiraffe9787
      @happygiraffe9787 5 лет назад +3

      1.47V sounds scary as I'm running my r7 1700 @3.7 all cores with 1.187V

    • @noodlefu_
      @noodlefu_ 5 лет назад +2

      @@happygiraffe9787 yeah, not sure why the voltage is particularly that high, but locked to max voltage is normal in the BIOS.

    • @happygiraffe9787
      @happygiraffe9787 5 лет назад

      I wonder what is the AMDs official maximum "safe voltages" for 3000-series. If I remember correctly, AMD said 2000-series was all good up to 1.4V in their official response.

    • @bardacuda82
      @bardacuda82 5 лет назад +2

      You're right that it doesn't sit at a low power state in BIOS...but even in it's highest power state the voltage should not be that high. Granted this board is probably displaying the VRM output before accounting for droop, but it's not under heavy load so droop won't be much anyway.

  • @blitzkreep4905
    @blitzkreep4905 5 лет назад +3

    Jay, based on the voltages you mentioned for the 3900X, could you recommend a ballpark figure for the 3700X?

  • @captainkirn1238
    @captainkirn1238 5 лет назад

    thank u soo much for being so awesome to share such videos with us :)

  • @SaccoBelmonte
    @SaccoBelmonte 5 лет назад +10

    Awesome video, thank you Jay.
    I suspected the 3900X was going to be a poor overclocker, the 3950X not having any of it and the 3800X faring better in that regard. Still, Chiplet is chiplet so the heat is very focused.

  • @Fenix1861
    @Fenix1861 5 лет назад +279

    Love the shirt, Jay!
    EDIT: LaForge for Secretary of Energy, right?

    • @briancool8038
      @briancool8038 5 лет назад +21

      Worf for Secretary of Defense

    • @darjanator
      @darjanator 5 лет назад +18

      Crusher for Secretary of Health and Social Care

    • @Nethan10Troi
      @Nethan10Troi 5 лет назад +12

      Data for Secretary of Security

    • @RichyP85
      @RichyP85 5 лет назад +14

      O'Brien for Secretary of Transportation...lol...if thats a thing

    • @eingames9931
      @eingames9931 5 лет назад +9

      Data would be NSA no doubt.

  • @tobiahhowell
    @tobiahhowell 5 лет назад +1

    I have a question about custom cooling. Would using Peltier cooling components to cool a CPU be feasible? I know a regular cooling system would still be needed to cooling the heated side of the peltier, but the cooled side would get pretty cold. Up to -26* C. Peltier plates do need a electrical input, usually 12v. I’m just curious on your opinion.

  • @NB1148
    @NB1148 5 лет назад

    Chart Background next level. good work, phil.

  • @markcurtis599
    @markcurtis599 5 лет назад +193

    I'd just like to say what everyone is thinking.... WHAT A GREAT SHIRT!!

    • @bkweddle7599
      @bkweddle7599 5 лет назад +5

      I want to know where he got it. That's a Candidate I can get behind!

    • @jeetadityachatterjee6995
      @jeetadityachatterjee6995 5 лет назад +1

      It took Very little time for me to find this comment. This makes me happy

    • @ashleyjohansson230
      @ashleyjohansson230 5 лет назад

      Beyond belief fact or fiction

    • @markcurtis599
      @markcurtis599 5 лет назад

      @@ashleyjohansson230 that's a fact!!

    • @LMPGames
      @LMPGames 5 лет назад

      I have one for 2016.

  • @CoalitionGaming
    @CoalitionGaming 5 лет назад +5

    I thought ram could go up to 3733 before the infinity fabric divider would kick in. Excited to play around with this on the 3900x i have on the way. Thanks for this video

    • @arlopull2021
      @arlopull2021 5 лет назад

      Just keep it simple and go for 3600

    • @deadpool790
      @deadpool790 5 лет назад

      would I need to boost the FCLK to 1866mhz to get 3733mhz? and if this is the case what else would I need to do to make sure its stable? thanks i really do want to reach 3733 and not default to 3600 if even for minor results.

  • @matt697845
    @matt697845 5 лет назад +2

    16:55 Sandy Bridge had north bridge functions integrated in the CPU same as Ivy Bridge. Ivy was just a minor refinement (more like a regression unless delidded cause Ivy is when Intel switched from solder to paste TIM on the mainstream platform) of Sandy bridge and they were both forward and backward compatible with the same platforms (LGA 1155).

  • @BNOVA
    @BNOVA 5 лет назад

    Thanks for this Jay. I hope to see further reviews once Bios etc improves or maybe another Stepping in the process to see if we need the more expensive motherboards to overclock.

  • @Hotrob_J
    @Hotrob_J 5 лет назад +17

    Those voltages would be high on an fx processor... Dang

  • @nash345
    @nash345 4 года назад +14

    Jay: "After the past couple of days...."
    Jay's Shirt: "Still here brah"

  • @castroGstar-cGs
    @castroGstar-cGs 4 года назад +1

    Your video was one of the best on the topic, thanks so much for this (instant subscribe). As a new 3950x owner, I have done quite a bit of research and testing and I want to share my settings with you to get your take on Vcore safety as I have been reading A LOT about static Vcore voltages.
    I currently have the following settings resulting in stable bench marking across R20, R15 and various others, as well as with my gaming sessions and studio work for design. I am using the Kraken Z63 and I idle around 45C to 55C and hit 79C in R20. While gaming I am usually in the range of 50C to 60C.
    Below are my OC settings:
    PBO disabled
    Global C state disabled
    LLC 1
    Vcore 1.36
    RAM 3200
    Fabric 1600
    Stock AMD Ryzen High Performance Power Plan
    CCD0
    CCX 0 4.425
    CCX 1 4.425
    CCD 1
    CCX 0 4.325
    CCX 1 4.335
    My main concern here is that many forums suggest that the static Vcore should never be set higher than 1.32 with many suggesting that 1.3 should really be the highest or else I will degrade my chip very quickly. In your video I believe you set the Vcore to 1.375 on the 3600. Has this impacted the CPU over time? In R20 my Vcore sits at around 1.250. While gaming it is always at the max setting of 1.36. When Idle, it's also at 1.36 all the time.
    I really want to stick to the manual OC because I do not like the heat production when using stock with PBO because the voltage jumps so much as does the heat. I really don't want to run OC settings that will degrade my CPU in less than a year so any feedback on the topic would be greatly appreciated.

  • @rejari64
    @rejari64 5 лет назад +1

    Excellent video Jay, thanks for the amazing analysis.

  • @BB-nn9en
    @BB-nn9en 5 лет назад +12

    It's a different kind of overclocking. It's more tweaking than anything else. AMD has (and this is great) found ways to maximize performance out of the box. The tweaking will be more like what we've seen from GPU's with undervoltage, increasing TDP allowances, better cooling, and letting their algorithms do their thang.

    • @stevieknight9225
      @stevieknight9225 5 лет назад +1

      I mean doesn't it make sense from a manufacturer's point of view that their product is the best it can be out of the box? Kind of strange it has taken this long for auto clocking to happen

    • @KonkelVonk
      @KonkelVonk 5 лет назад +1

      Dude I'm still rocken an ancient relic 1950X that i bought last year, So technically I'm in your ballpark.

    • @yulfine1688
      @yulfine1688 5 лет назад

      its not the best out of the box at all. Its literally the way they design their own chips that causes this to happen which is why amd is always behind intel or barely keeps up with some old design that intel only struggles with because of their own design. Its basically a failure actually not a good thing.

  • @agentoranj5858
    @agentoranj5858 4 года назад +4

    Thanks for the heads-up regarding voltage, I was wondering why my 3600X was running so hot. I turned it down from the default 1.48 to 1.3, then incrementally raised it back up for performance. Getting good results at 1.35 at the time of writing and I may keep going to see if the sweet spot is somewhere higher.

    • @imannudein
      @imannudein 4 года назад +2

      Hi. So after 8 months, how is the fixed Vcore holding up?

  • @wigbertlui4983
    @wigbertlui4983 4 года назад +1

    Hey Jay, you think noctua u12A cpu air cooler will be enough for 3950x? As I really don't wanna use aio or custom loop, had bad experience in the past. Looking forward your advise

  • @amirbahalegharn365
    @amirbahalegharn365 5 лет назад

    one of the very few,if not the only very informative video around,exceptional job.thanks

  • @whatwhat960
    @whatwhat960 5 лет назад +174

    i couldnt see the charts cause Jay is making faces behind it.

    • @Boomer.Roberts
      @Boomer.Roberts 5 лет назад +16

      Wow I didn't even notice until seeing this comment

    • @11BravoMike
      @11BravoMike 5 лет назад +3

      Yeah, that's funny as hell. I didn't even notice lol.

    • @samenjaimy
      @samenjaimy 5 лет назад +1

      Oh wow, I did not see that the first time I watched it xD

    • @SuperStruct
      @SuperStruct 5 лет назад +2

      It's so good

    • @BaconDanish
      @BaconDanish 5 лет назад +2

      I Saw that aswell and didn’t pay attention to the charts either. Had to watch again and try not to focus on him in the background. 🤣😂

  • @chasecrappel9480
    @chasecrappel9480 5 лет назад +8

    And people called me crazy for just letting gpu boost and XFR do the over lock for me...

  • @jagster7985
    @jagster7985 4 года назад

    Old video I know, but I'm running a 3800x with the same Corsair cooler. Could I apply the voltage settings Jay uses but still use PBO instead of a manual OC for the sake of dropping temps? I'm getting 40-45C idle and 60-70C under load (usually gaming) and would like to bring temps down a bit.
    Or does changing to said voltage settings pretty much demand I disable PBO and apply a manual OC? Also, running Corsair Vengeance RGB RAM 16GB 3600 OCed to 16-16-16-39

  • @timlamein9637
    @timlamein9637 5 лет назад +1

    could you look at per core oc. As in would it be possible to have 4 cores at that 4.5 and all core at 4.3

  • @rigg718
    @rigg718 5 лет назад +52

    Don't set manual V-core voltage if you are leaving your clocks on auto. You will destroy your performance. Run cinebench after doing this and you will see. Limiting the voltage causes the core clocks to be limited. I had a -200mv undervolt and my temps, power usage, and clocks looked awesome. Then I ran cinebench and realized it was destroying my performance. The algorithm wants as much as 1.5v on the higher turbo SKU's to hit max single core turbo. If you manually enter voltage and limit it it wont hit those turbos. The high voltage is fine when no or light load is present. There is very little current and won't damage your CPU. This is normal. The voltage will lower to the 1.3 range when fully loaded on all cores and current increases. If you see your "idle" voltage at 1.5v its because your monitor software is presenting a tiny load to the core and causing it to go to full turbo (with necessary voltage). If you look at the voltage using CPU Z the actual idle voltage is less than a volt. This is problem with monitoring software and not the CPU's and bios'.
    www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/cbls9g/the_final_word_on_idle_voltages_for_3rd_gen_ryzen/?ref=share&ref_source=embed&
    The high SOC voltage is a result of installing a high speed memory kit. This is an actual issue that needs to be addressed. This is an issue with Asus mobos on the Intel side as welll with VCCIO/VCCSA. Jay I like your content but there is some terrible information in this video.

    • @SansUndertale0
      @SansUndertale0 5 лет назад +2

      Rigg thanks for the info :)

    • @Kojiro3210
      @Kojiro3210 5 лет назад

      best thing to do is set an offset, not a manual. manuals are generally a bad idea anyway. once you know what auto reaches, offsets are best to fine tune.

    • @rigg718
      @rigg718 5 лет назад +5

      @@Kojiro3210 Nope. Unfortunately offset will negatively affect performance on the new Ryzen CPU's as well. It's really confusing too. I had -200mv negative offset dialed in on a 3700x. It looked amazing. Heat and power consumption had me grinnig ear to ear. HWI64 even appeared to hold at 4.2 all core in P95 smal FFT. Then I ran cinebench. Single core went from 205 to 143. Multi core was 1500 something. Don't mess with the voltage if leaving clocks on auto. It's possible you may be able to use a very small offset without killing performance too drastically but i think its better to just set a max temp in the advanced PBO settings if your temps are too high. I'm afraid a lot of people coming from 2nd gen Ryzen PBO overclocking are going to try using offset and not realize they are nerfing their CPU performance.

    • @wazifachannel1994
      @wazifachannel1994 5 лет назад +2

      He don't know much and have 2M subscribers lol

    • @hydzior
      @hydzior 5 лет назад +1

      I’ve fixed vcore on my ryzen 3900x@4.25Ghz on all cores 1.2625V. Its colder and performance is higher than on auto.

  • @justinbendlin7578
    @justinbendlin7578 5 лет назад +49

    I'm 11 seconds in and stopped to give it a like and a comment..... all because of the shirt.... It's beautiful.

  • @brizzle9521
    @brizzle9521 3 года назад

    What were all final voltages for this oc? I see VDDCR at 1.369v and frequency at 4300mhz. How about the soc voltage, vddp voltage and such as you went over at the beginning of the video?

  • @TheCuttz1984
    @TheCuttz1984 5 лет назад

    Just curious. Why Asus shipped boards with a bios with such high voltage as stock?? Is it safer to run higher volt? Assuming you have a way to control heat?
    Sorry if that sounds confusing

  • @ThineHolyBacon
    @ThineHolyBacon 5 лет назад +18

    Overclocking the Ryzen 3000 series on x570 vs x470 vs x370 would be awesome to see. Curious if the memory overclocking especially is significantly different

  • @gecsus
    @gecsus 5 лет назад +8

    Jay, Do a series on what each memory setting in the BIOS does or effects.
    How to use those settings to determine the best setting for a memory module.
    How settings are relative to each other.
    Then go through all of the settings in a particular BIOS one BIOS at a time.
    That should keep you busy and out of trouble for some time.

  • @Rob-vl9ux
    @Rob-vl9ux 5 лет назад

    one question. Did you happen to check the temp on the AIO to see if it could keep up. how far above ambient was input to waterblock getting.

  • @michaelknowles1651
    @michaelknowles1651 3 года назад +1

    Just a quick comment to say thank you for this video. Just carried out the same changes as detailed, I'm now running roughly 6 oC cooler than running the factory defaults. Great help and thank you once again.
    P.s A video regarding the setting/options within the Bios screen would also be a great video. If you have a chance while messing around with the 3080 :-) stay safe.

  • @ebsn1
    @ebsn1 5 лет назад +14

    I see 1:1 Ratio talked about with Infinity at 3600 (1800 infinity) Memory then I see 1:1 is really 3733 Memory (1866 infinity) . Which is it?

    • @rcradiator
      @rcradiator 5 лет назад +5

      3733 is max with 1:1 scaling

    • @Qyngali
      @Qyngali 5 лет назад +4

      @@rcradiator Unless you adjust the fclock manually, yes. Most CPU's should be able to run the IF at 1900 when RAM is at 3800. I don't know if lower end boards can even adjust that though, I know the MSI MEG X570 Creation can, and the Crosshair, I wonder if the 200-300$ boards can...

    • @deadpool790
      @deadpool790 5 лет назад

      @@Qyngali does this mean i need to boost the infinity fabric manually to 1866 or 1900 (if it) can so i can still reac 3733? other wise would going 3733 while its at 1800mhz go into 2:1?

    • @Qyngali
      @Qyngali 5 лет назад +2

      @@deadpool790 If you leave the fclock on auto it'll switch IF to 1:2 if you set RAM to above 3733. 3733 will still be 1:1. I haven't heard anyone get the IF to run higher than 1900... and on LN2 it seems to hate high IF speeds. Not that that matters to most people. :)

    • @deadpool790
      @deadpool790 5 лет назад

      @@Qyngali yah I'm reading overclock.net another person said they had a friend hit 1900 as well. I want to try to do this once I get everything but of course my goal is to 3733mhz cl 14 with my b-die 3200 cl 14 kit (trident royals) if 1900mh infinity fabric is stable even better.

  • @marcus_ohreallyus
    @marcus_ohreallyus 4 года назад +3

    This CPu is my first AMD and it's also the first CPU I haven't overclocked...because I just had so much trouble getting anything out of it. I've been overclocking my Intels for years with no problems but it just seemed like too much trouble to get any extra horsepower out of the 3900x no matter what ram timings or voltage I tried. But regardless of the OC failure, I've been really happy with the CPU overall and I'm looking to upgrade to the 3950x.

  • @ciprianstan9684
    @ciprianstan9684 4 года назад +1

    Hi , i just bought 3700x and my temps are very high beetween 45 60 on idle and 95+ under stress test with stock prism , what can i do to fix this ? I also use 570x msi gaming edge

  • @wildcheri9057
    @wildcheri9057 4 года назад

    Any chance you can you can tell me which settings you changed to what at the end of your overclocking? Ive been using the Auto overclocking software that's in the BIOS, it gets me to 4.22GHz but causes minor system instability on initial start up, restarts and then performs in normal working order. I have eliminated all possibility of mechanical failure and now certain the auto overclocking BIOS software is flawed. I am using the same CPU (3900x) and Motherboard (Crosshair VIII Hero)

  • @lucasbim
    @lucasbim 5 лет назад +16

    For a minute I thought I was watching Tech of Tomorrow.

  • @nathantagg2691
    @nathantagg2691 5 лет назад +3

    I want to know why Each core can't independently boost according to its load, wouldn't that improve temperatures? would it cause any problems?

    • @drawapretzel6003
      @drawapretzel6003 5 лет назад

      because theyre physically close to each other. Programs only use certain cores, because despite what jay is saying, multithreading is SHIT in the real world. Nothing but AAA titles use it, hell, basic office software isnt even multithreaded. But, basically, it asks for certain cores, and that will probably be the first core in the cluster, and there are multiple clusters close together, every 1 core heats up the other 3 next to it, and that cluster heats up the one next to it.
      If you just left it standard, yeah, it would boost single core up to 4.6 like he was saying, but it would rapidly heat up the entire cpu, you cant make EVERY core boost, because the heat output is too high.
      4.6 on one means 3.3 on another.

    • @nathantagg2691
      @nathantagg2691 5 лет назад

      Draw a Pretzel I’m not sure I understand why proximity or heat from an adjacent core would mean that a thread or core HAS to match its clock

    • @drawapretzel6003
      @drawapretzel6003 5 лет назад

      @@nathantagg2691 they go down in response, not up. You cant get it to go up because of heat.

  • @tresnugget
    @tresnugget 3 года назад +1

    I'm really curious if that chip stayed at that config and if it's degraded at all. A lot of people have killed their chips running them with static OCs with that high of voltage. That's definitely higher than the FIT voltage for that chip and could be WAAAY higher than the FIT voltage.

  • @jHORIZON2400
    @jHORIZON2400 4 года назад

    Is 1.3v at 4.3ghz all core too low of voltage? I have my memory using dcop settings and 1800mhz f clock. System boots up and runs cr20 with no issues and temps only get to 80c. Haven’t had any issues that I can see or tell.

  • @rodrirm
    @rodrirm 5 лет назад +6

    Finally, someone that talk about all the crap we are suffering, between BIOS, Windows and AMD power plans (Windows working better than AMD in my case), high vcore while idle, and high fan speed, and CPU and FAN boosting for nothing (like opening a new tab on firefox, or a folder on a harddrive). Also what you shown about Far Cry, can be achieved (no OC need it in my Ryzen 5 3600) in almost any game (tried with SOTR and BFV) and it also boost all clocks to 4.05~4.125ish, but utilization is never higher than 50% in some threads. Thank you Jay !

  • @beukenboomer604
    @beukenboomer604 5 лет назад +10

    I thought I was going crazy, thank you for this. I knew the voltages are too high!!!!!

    • @426Studios
      @426Studios 5 лет назад +4

      Robert from AMD already explained that on reddit. Its perfectly fine. It was designed like that. Its too technical so I cant explain it properly but you can read it on reddit www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/cbls9g/the_final_word_on_idle_voltages_for_3rd_gen_ryzen/?

    • @christophervanzetta
      @christophervanzetta 4 года назад

      @@426Studios He said it's normal but nothing about it being safe 🤷‍♂️
      Wonder why I can't find an answer on the long term effects of running a zen2 at 1.4 volts

  • @TobiasRieperGER
    @TobiasRieperGER 4 года назад

    Maybe i missed it but what are the stock values in the BIOS for a Ryzen 3900x?
    I have a Gigabyte Aorus X470 Gaming 7, so i can set values, but i don't want to overclock, it has to run stable 24/7, so good temperatures is my goal. Yes i know, good and many fans are a must have, but if the CPU produce less heat, all have won. Thanks for help.

  • @bigcheesetxmedia
    @bigcheesetxmedia 2 года назад

    i have the exact same board/cpu combo but under newer BIOS the settings have changed. CLDO VDDG was replaced by three new settings (VDDG CCD Volt/VDDG IOD Volt/CLDO VDDP Volt). what should i set those new options to? trying to copy your base settings to potentially fix random idle crashing issue

  • @Bigbacon
    @Bigbacon 5 лет назад +4

    Ryzen line up is interesting to me. I've been overclocking everytthing since...late 90s but Ryzen is the first CPU i've owned I just feel I have no need to OC. the boost does its job really well.

  • @Tyler-ok2ub
    @Tyler-ok2ub 5 лет назад +20

    You should make a video testing OC 3200mhz ram of a lower cas latency vs stock 3600mhz ram of a higher cas latency with ryzen 3000

    • @weust2672
      @weust2672 5 лет назад +3

      Tyler 06 I like to see that too. Overclocking the CPU doesn't seem very interesting atm, but I do wonder how memory speeds impact things.

    • @jayb7102
      @jayb7102 5 лет назад +1

      Agreed, and then also test both speeds on an x470 board.

    • @BlacKi-nd4uy
      @BlacKi-nd4uy 5 лет назад

      actually i would like to see some benchmarks with different timings and speeds to see the differences.

    • @BlacKi-nd4uy
      @BlacKi-nd4uy 5 лет назад

      @Miguel Carones that one from techpowerup?

  • @dannydrew3685
    @dannydrew3685 4 года назад

    Great video, but I have another question about my motherboard. I have an ASRock X570 Phantom Gaming 4. Every time I turn it off, and then turn it back on, the bios resets. I know its happening, because, the computer turns on and off like 3 times and then finally turns on, and when I get into windows and go to task manager the ram is at the default setting. I then have to restart my computer, go and set my ram. However, it take like 10 minutes of this process before my motherboard finally takes hold, and the Ram is saved at the right speed. Do you have this problem? If so, what do you do? If not, have you heard about it, and is there a fix?

  • @YTPartyTonight
    @YTPartyTonight 4 года назад +1

    One thing I can confirm helps with cooling the 3900X is der8auer's Ryzen 3000 OC bracket. Short of doing custom looped water, I've put together a 360 AIO/CL, upgraded with Noctua NF-F12 industrialPPC-2000 PWM fans and der8auer's bracket. The bracket really does work.

  • @AdamBrackney
    @AdamBrackney 5 лет назад +5

    Those Farcry 5 increases were crazy.

  • @rudymon
    @rudymon 5 лет назад +4

    "And that is the fact we actually changed out the extension cord..."
    Me: Smashed that like.

  • @joepaasch8222
    @joepaasch8222 5 лет назад

    Love your background on your charts.

  • @not_so_native_native
    @not_so_native_native 5 лет назад

    Im just wondering is it possible to to get one or 2 of the cores to 4.6? Cuz thats basically their boost clock im just wondering if we could do that for a permanent improvement

  • @2darki
    @2darki 5 лет назад +3

    Ive read that the cpu uses high voltages at lower usage and low voltage in higher usage (which it does, 1.46v low/ 1.25v high usage). So whats the right thing to do now, who is right? Can anyone help?

    • @anonamouse5917
      @anonamouse5917 5 лет назад

      Post links pls.

    • @TechnoBabble
      @TechnoBabble 5 лет назад

      It's not that it's designed that way, it's simply a byproduct of how the chips function, the higher a load on the CPU the lower the voltage across cores. That's why a lot of boards for overclocking feature a load-line calibration, which increases the voltage as the load on the processor goes up. This allows you to keep the same voltage at all loads. Without load-line calibration my chip would have to run at 1.475+ volts because of the drop when it gets a load applied, but instead now runs at 1.4v constantly no matter the load.

    • @2darki
      @2darki 5 лет назад

      @@TechnoBabble So "offset + 0.15" should do the job for me?

  • @2Syndras1Cup
    @2Syndras1Cup 5 лет назад +3

    I am surprised that you got "Der Bauer" out without a problem, learning german recently? :D

  • @bryanlogan6911
    @bryanlogan6911 3 года назад

    Question??? Just built a new gaming rig 3900 X, 5700 XT GPU ,ASRock b550 motherboard,corsair rx850 modular PSU, all hardline water cooled. Boots fine but when put under a load it shuts down. The strange thing is there are no signs of overtemp. Cinebench, HWM, Heaven, max temps are all in the low 60's C. Just shuts down and reboots. No OC, just straight out of the box with all brand new components. I updated Windows, updated GPU drivers, and haven't done anything with the mono bios. Any thoughts out there?

  • @cjones29hd
    @cjones29hd 5 лет назад

    I seen something the other day about the Windows scheduler also not taking advantage of all the cores/modules on Ryzen 3000? Is or could there be an optimization there? If so would that fall back on the FX chips as well since they are a modular cpu? I know this is probably reaching here.

  • @szejer4184
    @szejer4184 4 года назад +5

    just got myself a 3900x 4/4/2020 and was able to hit stable 4.4 ghz at 1.4 volts. Will say the spike in temperatures reaches 60-65*C before dropping.
    Was happy to find stability at 4.3 ghz 1.37 volts. 40-50*C with fans going full speed on a 360 radiator

    • @GrantSweatshirt
      @GrantSweatshirt 3 года назад

      You’ve never hit 105c with yours ? Rookie numbers at 60

    • @Alpine_flo92002
      @Alpine_flo92002 2 года назад

      I dont get stable at stock...yay

  • @luis-ciphermstar6597
    @luis-ciphermstar6597 5 лет назад +4

    GIGABYTE X570 AORUS XTREME or ASUS X570 ROG Crosshair VIII Formula @$699.99?? I want the Aorus Xtreme, but I bought the Asus ROG because it was all that was available. At $700($699.99) plus the extra $50 I got off at Microcenter for getting the processor as well, I damn sure want to make sure I bought the best option out of these offerings. Help me decide whether to exchange the Asus Crosshair VIII Formula for the Aorus Xtreme or keep it!!! Just wondering tbh

    • @branchprediction9923
      @branchprediction9923 5 лет назад

      What!? Why!? 700!!!¿¿¿

    • @AndyWatchingYoutube
      @AndyWatchingYoutube 5 лет назад

      you obviously did not buy the best option, $700?? you might aswell bend over too

    • @luis-ciphermstar6597
      @luis-ciphermstar6597 5 лет назад

      @@branchprediction9923 The price is most definitely and undeniably horrible, but the super high end vrm's and chips on these boards are second to none. I want to do some massive overclocking in the future as well other things.

    • @TheCivicsiep3
      @TheCivicsiep3 5 лет назад +1

      dam dude, ya that wasn't a good buy at all honestly. the crosshair vii hero has the exact same vrm, same memory features same amount of sata ports same nvme slots, the hero viii is 350$ the formula is an absolute rip off the only thing that your getting is that vrm water block which is completely unnecessary. the vrms will never get hot enough for that block to matter its eye candy really. the gigabyte is a much superior board to the formula in pretty much every way. if you want asus buy the crosshair viii hero its the same board in every way that actually matters. the formula is just the bling version but it doesn't offer any performance benefit not found on the half price crosshair viii hero boards. hope you can return it and get the hero save yourself some money

    • @luis-ciphermstar6597
      @luis-ciphermstar6597 5 лет назад

      @@AndyWatchingRUclips The best option out of the top tier boards is what I was looking for. I'm not looking for bargain bin boards if that's what you are aiming at, I want the best of the best for Ryzen 3900X/3950X. The Aorus Xtreme is obviously that board from all the things I have read and watched since Computex. But according to you, I wonder what the best option would be, even though what you want is obviously not the same I'm guessing.. Thanks for the opinion though :)

  • @everett6518
    @everett6518 4 года назад

    I have a problem that my 3900x with prime x470Pro, 1.0.0.3abba
    No matter pbo is enable or not,it‘s voltage keeps changing from0.9-1.46v(without offset) in several seconds, together with frequency and temperature, even when it is not loaded.
    So i am wondering if it is normal, and is there some set i can change, i want it to slow down when it's not in use,and still can get high performance when needed.
    thanks

  • @kenneth2405
    @kenneth2405 5 лет назад

    1.49v for RAM seems high, it is needed to be at that voltage? The memory was at stock speed right?

  • @chrismcgee985
    @chrismcgee985 5 лет назад +5

    1. The links in the description to amazon do NOT link to any products.
    2. You don't list the hardware used so we'll never know until you update that.
    Thanks :)

  • @SirBilliam96
    @SirBilliam96 5 лет назад +45

    Please do an overclocking video for 3700x! I feel as if that would apply to many more viewers, including myself

    • @1BigBen
      @1BigBen 5 лет назад +5

      bearded hardware has a around 17 hours total from 4 Live streams 3700x that you can look at.
      also he will be cuting it into a video guide.

    • @Qyngali
      @Qyngali 5 лет назад +1

      @@1BigBen I was about to write that lol.

  • @lifeartstudios6207
    @lifeartstudios6207 4 года назад

    wondering if it was considered changing the cooler to a square plate instead of a round plate. I've heard the heat distribution on the 3900x is more spread out instead of being focused on the center. Read online that the h100 series on 3900x has been known to have higher heat on this particular cpu. What is a better alternative aio?

  • @jessen600
    @jessen600 5 лет назад

    Jay, thank you for making this video. I am very glad I watched it before plonking a Ryzen 9 3900X into my ASUS ROG Crosshair Hero VI X370 motherboard. You helped me keep the temps under control. I thank you.

  • @kevmasta7
    @kevmasta7 5 лет назад +5

    Any chance u could do comparison on i9900k vs the equivalant amd chip for 1440p gaming? Curious about temps and performance for each.

    • @unsc0212able
      @unsc0212able 5 лет назад +2

      Have my 9900k OC to 5.0 at 1.3 volts and at idle im at 34c. While gaming it goes from 46 to like maybe 60c when gaming. At 1440p i get 130 fps plus in all games i play. Good chip imo but the a.d cpu also good.

    • @cooperbeats9620
      @cooperbeats9620 5 лет назад +4

      @@unsc0212able Good chip excluding price? Yes. Good chip taking price into consideration? Not even fucking close.

    • @BKnight_
      @BKnight_ 5 лет назад +1

      Cooper Beats What? The 3900X costs the same (or a bit more depending on location) as the 9900K and has slightly worse performance in gaming.

    • @cooperbeats9620
      @cooperbeats9620 5 лет назад +6

      @@BKnight_ The 3900x has 4 more cores and 8 more threads for the same price and destroys the 9900k in LITERALLY everything but gaming, where it pretty much matches or slightly loses to the 9900k. Your point? Intel's entire line of CPU's is now completely obsolete because of AMD, Intel needs to drop prices a ton before they're even made an option by anyone.

    • @unsc0212able
      @unsc0212able 5 лет назад +3

      @@cooperbeats9620 price is fine if you consider you can OC as much as you can on all 8 cores and 16 threads. Some applications value frequencies over cores. Every user experience is different and some people want different things. As it stands all amd is offering is more cores atm if Intel was to come out with 10nm or 7 in a month it would make it even worse for Amd. Intel 4 year old architecture is going against Amd new one and still keeping up. Not like Amd destroying them vs same core count cpus. Amd can't even hit 4.6 on one core most of the time as the video stated. Why because you have to refine and mature the architecture.

  • @alleyb62
    @alleyb62 5 лет назад +6

    Remember when overclocking was just bump the frequency, bump the voltage, until you hit the thermal limits?

    • @raresmacovei8382
      @raresmacovei8382 4 года назад

      Alley B At least for GPU, it's mostly still that.

  • @GalvinW
    @GalvinW 5 лет назад

    Glad I watched your video. My asus x570 and this was after I downloaded the latest bios from the internet feature. My cpu voltage was 1.4x. Lucky only ran it for a day like that till I caught it. Thanks!

  • @cfc3972
    @cfc3972 Год назад

    those settings you changed in the bios JayzTwoCents should i change too on mine? im running ryzen 9 3900x and asus rog strix x570-F motherboard?

  • @FlanK3rCZ
    @FlanK3rCZ 5 лет назад +5

    the issue is because LN2 mode is enabled (LN2 mode is overvolting and ready for LN2)

  • @DerCyruS
    @DerCyruS 5 лет назад +7

    when do we see you doing some rx 5700xt watercooling stuff?

    • @Safetytrousers
      @Safetytrousers 5 лет назад +1

      I don't think any blocks for Navi are out yet. EK Navi blocks don't ship until 26th July.

    • @DCS.1-1
      @DCS.1-1 5 лет назад

      No need
      Corsair 240mm AIO drill the intel plate like the Radeon VII Add m3 bolt ET VOILA

    • @DerCyruS
      @DerCyruS 5 лет назад

      @@Safetytrousers Igor from IgorsLab got already a pre-production sample From the EK rx5700xt vector fullcover blocks..... rockstable 2,1GHz without ANY mods... just increased core clocks, and a little bit power limit
      ruclips.net/video/kK3isGg9nDw/видео.html
      playing with power tables: 2,2 GHz:
      ruclips.net/video/LjHV9LPxzTs/видео.html

  • @randomdriver
    @randomdriver 5 лет назад

    Is it possible to install m.2 ssd with large heatsink into that Asus Hero motherboard? I already have the Corsair MP600 pcie 4.0 ssd, but do not have yet x570 motherboard, and I'm still wondering what to get

  • @anub1s15
    @anub1s15 5 лет назад

    hi jay just wondering is there a place to find the "default voltages"or what they should be or did you just check other bords?

  • @koreymcintire3382
    @koreymcintire3382 4 года назад +2

    As of today, ASUS still hasn't fixed the voltages in BIOS, and they just released a new BIOS last month. On the 570-E Gaming they still have it set to these voltages out of the box.

  • @Draxcer
    @Draxcer 5 лет назад +3

    I changed the voltages like you did. But pc won't even post after that
    3900x, asus crosshair 7 x470, bios 2406
    Had to reflash bios
    Pc works fine but cpu voltage is almost always above 1.4v
    Idles at 55-60 with evga clc280 with 2 noctua ppc 140mm
    Also can't install ryzen master. Keeps saying unsupported cpu or driver not installed properly
    Any help would be appreciated
    If it's necessary to know,
    32 gb ram. 3200mhz 14 14 14 14 34 @ 1.425v
    Evga gtx1070 sc

    • @chriswright8074
      @chriswright8074 5 лет назад

      Go to AMD website and download the chipset driver for your motherboard

    • @Draxcer
      @Draxcer 5 лет назад

      @@chriswright8074 I've done that, chipset drivers from motherboard website first, didn't work, chipset drivers from amd site, didn't work

    • @cardbored_
      @cardbored_ 5 лет назад

      Wow, sounds like a nightmare

    • @davidhiggins2804
      @davidhiggins2804 4 года назад

      Did you do a fresh install of Windows when you upgraded your platform ?

  • @peterbasista3231
    @peterbasista3231 2 года назад

    Hi, I plan to duplicate the video card I now own- MSI Gaming GeForce RTX 3080 Ti 12GB . If I buy one more than I combine them and it's even possible? Thank you very much for your answer.

  • @ryannovak5911
    @ryannovak5911 4 года назад

    My 3900x is running 4.3 all core at 1.4v. Is there anything wrong with leaving that voltage? I’m on a 360mm AIO and I’ve never hit 80 or more on Cinebench runs.

  • @Najvalsa
    @Najvalsa 5 лет назад +4

    1.47V is normal.
    The stock voltage parameters are, 1.325V max for all core workloads, and 1.47V max for single core workloads.
    The stock memory and SoC voltages are not however.
    Also, DOCP is Asus' term for XMP, and the SoC voltage is also for the IMC. Basically VCCIO and VCCSA on Intel, are VSoC on Zen.

    • @pendeltonthecook
      @pendeltonthecook 5 лет назад

      Something or other is goofy about this series though. I recently purchased a 3600 and on the stock cooler it idles at 55-60c (it hops all over the place no matter if its ryzen balanced or windows balanced power plan) and hits 90 under a cinebench load and if i try to run two back to back I get thermal shutdown at 95. Ive reseated the cooler a few times, and despite the 60 idle, the cooler is not warm at all. So i dont know if there's an issue with the core to ihs transfer or IHS to heatsink, but something is goofy.

  • @braswellunleashed627
    @braswellunleashed627 5 лет назад +36

    Don't forget us X370 users, we were there from the beginning. Will u compare X370 vs X570?

    • @gr3if
      @gr3if 5 лет назад +1

      Already done, as long as board got vrms that can handle the power it's finse

    • @imo098765
      @imo098765 5 лет назад

      @@gr3if even on a decent b350 it can take the 12core just dont go overclocking

    • @Badassblacksmith
      @Badassblacksmith 5 лет назад

      Ditch the X370! Easy

    • @bardacuda82
      @bardacuda82 5 лет назад +3

      Only difference is the X370 won't have PCIE 4.0. The VRM and memory trace layout might be better or worse depending on the model but that has nothing to do with the chipset.

  • @pennylee275
    @pennylee275 4 года назад

    Thank you for this awesome video, set my new pc bios as just built a Ryzen 3950x pc and your advice was perfect iat setting up my bios, pushed the cpu/memory now to 4.2GHz all 32 cores constant and memory from 3GHz to 3.2GHz. My Cinebench went from 8985 to 9502 and idle cpu tmp is 40c to max 60c while doing normal windows stuff. xxxxx