2023 Stockli Montero AR Ski Review with SkiEssentials.com

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  • Опубликовано: 23 июл 2024
  • Jeff and Bob chat about the Stockli Montero AR, what makes it special, how it differs from the AX and Stormrider 88, the price, and plenty more.
    0:00 - Intro
    1:00 - Construction
    6:30 - Shape
    9:20 - Carving vs All-Mountain
    11:15 - Soft Snow Performance
    12:45 - Off-Piste Terrain
    14:10 - Forgiveness
    15:50 - Comparison to Other Skis
    16:55 - What's Your Favorite Thing?
    17:50 - Price
    20:40 - Length Breakdown

Комментарии • 108

  • @georgelaich404
    @georgelaich404 2 года назад +4

    Great job guys! Very informative and entertaining.

  • @gregmccandlessmusic
    @gregmccandlessmusic 2 года назад +3

    Bob was powering those turns! Great skiing.

  • @hopsterbb2571
    @hopsterbb2571 Год назад +2

    Great video! Spent my first week on the AR’s! These ski’s are not for beginners or intermediate skier’s that don’t have power! However, they are the best all around ski’s for most everyone else! When you get these skis on edge they are a thing of beauty! I like the bumps and they performed wonderfully!

  • @bartsimpson7777
    @bartsimpson7777 Год назад +3

    I’ve been skiing for over 20 years. This year I went skiing to Zermatt and rented these beauties. I always rent superior level skis and these hands down are the best skis I’ve ever rented to the point I want to buy them.

  • @grantchristmas8524
    @grantchristmas8524 Год назад +1

    Hi guys I bought a pair of ARs a couple of weeks ago. Brilliant ski and so beautifully made. I paired them with some Look Pivot 15 with a 95mm brake. Haven’t had any issues with brake width. And they look sooooo good cause they are gold 🤣🤣

    • @SkiEssentials
      @SkiEssentials  Год назад

      Awesome! Yeah, the 95 Pivot brake is what you need on the AR. Shouldn't be too much overhang I don't think. We're pretty confident the 75 mm brake will fit around the new Montero AX, but not the AR. There's been a lot of talk around here about Montero binding choice!

  • @peterhodges6808
    @peterhodges6808 2 года назад

    LOL you guys were cracking me up with the 3" is a powder day in Vermont.

    • @SkiEssentials
      @SkiEssentials  2 года назад

      I know, right? The funny thing is, we'll get a bunch of 3-inch days within a week and then all of a sudden there's a foot and a half of snow. And then it'll rain.

  • @philippefagnant1841
    @philippefagnant1841 2 года назад

    I'll watch everything you guy's put on this chanel,so yeah do another vid plz.

    • @SkiEssentials
      @SkiEssentials  Год назад +1

      Philippe, you know we'll keep them coming!
      SE

  • @jonathankitteridge3166
    @jonathankitteridge3166 Год назад +2

    Hey, guys, I purchased a pair of AX montero in Austria a couple of weeks ago not cheap but worth every cent
    best skies I have ever owned, my skiing has gone to the next level. I feel like I'm skiing now not a passenger
    great ski Stockli.

    • @SkiEssentials
      @SkiEssentials  Год назад

      They really hit a home run with the new Monteros. Fantastic skis.

  • @roejogan8247
    @roejogan8247 2 года назад +1

    Thx!

  • @Bushwacked487
    @Bushwacked487 2 года назад +5

    Hey guys, thanks for putting up with our whining for this one! Thanks for doing it. I guess I’m left with two big questions.
    1. How does the Montero AR feel different from the laser AR?
    2. How is the montero AR different from the SR88, outside of being carvier and the waist? Which is the more stable for high speeds? Bumps, weird snow? Trees? Why should someone pick one over the other?

    • @StacyWilcox
      @StacyWilcox 2 года назад

      I have the same question-

    • @SkiEssentials
      @SkiEssentials  2 года назад +4

      It is ALWAYS our pleasure to put out Stockli content, and we're glad to answer your questions!
      1. Minimal differences between the feel of the Montero and Laser. I'd say the biggest difference is in the beginning and end of the turn, where Montero doesn't quite pull you in as quickly, but kicks you out harder on the end. Laser was grabbier in the front, and looser on the back, but again, small differences. I like the sizing change as well, giving bigger skiers like me the opportunity to get on a 185 is a big plus.
      2. I've gone back and forth with the AR vs. 88 discussion. A lot of it comes down to what else you have in your quiver. I went from the 84 to the 88 back to back this year and my basic conclusion was that I couldn't possibly fathom getting an 88 over an AR, but that's just me, and that's nothing against the 88 at all--I've had glorious times on that ski in the past, but my experience this year, on softer snow even, was that the AR was a much more complete ski. For me. The rocker and camber profile is completely different, with the 88 being way flatter overall. The Montero has a ton of camber, and that gives it the energy and pop, which I really enjoy. That makes it more stable, at speed, while carving. I think for straighter-line skiing, the 88 may hold a better line, but not by a whole lot. In bumps, I'd rather ski the 88, but I don't think either one particularly excels in this range, mostly because the tails are quite stiff and flared. The flatter camber of the 88 won't be as jarring, either, making it a bit more supple. It's also lighter, so it's a bit easier to get from one turn to the next. Weird snow, I found no issue with either ski, but more specifically, was very impressed with how the Montero plows through crud and chop. There's a lack of tip float vs. 88 for sure, but flotation isn't particularly a strength of the 88 either. Swivel turns in the trees are easier on the 88, but is it worth an entire tradeoff for the rest of the Montero's performance? I don't think so personally. Overall, it's not that I'm down on the 88, but in comparison to Montero, I found so much more to like about the AR. For where I ski in Vermont, it's about as perfect a ski as you're going to see and I can't wait to get on it again this year. Hope that helps, and great questions!
      SE

    • @MrDox123
      @MrDox123 Год назад

      Bob,
      This was a very helpful comment as I too had the seams question. To be specific, I bought a pair Kendo 88’s last year to replace my 2018 Brahma 88’s which have been incredible at Mach 1 but little else IMO. I also went with the Kendo’s as a “second tier” option as my wallet didn’t grow enough for a pair of SR88’s which is really what I’ve enjoyed skiing the most. The Kendo is an amazing ski but just that slightly less versatile, again IMO, than the SR. These latter have such a progressive, complete and predictable flex pattern where the Kendo’s are a railing ski that also perform at 20 kph - at least the more recent “horseshoe” Kendos do. I found the new Kendos to have great rebound out of turns which surprised me as the older ones didn’t and neither do the Brahma’s. These older skis were really intended to point them down a GS run without gates.
      The other main reason I switched from Brahma 88-180’s to Kendo 88-184’s was length. I basically am built much like you (though some 15 years older) and have the same reaction to slightly shorter skis sub 182 cm unless they are short radius carving skis. 184-188 length is my ideal range. I’ve really enjoyed skiing boards like Vantage 98-188’s which feel shorter due to their lightweight but also felt very “alive” to me. Great pop out of turns from their stiffer tails compared to the more recent Vantage and now different Mavericks.
      Getting to the point, I’ve skied the first iteration of the Laser AR’s and was still sold on the idea of going with SR88’s the day the wallet allowed. I just felt the AR’s couldn’t hold a line well enough at high speed (100 kph) without wanting to turn unrequested. The Laser AR is super fun at slower speeds and/or in technical steep terrain but just felt the SR88’s were a more complete all mountain ski functional at 10 AND 100 kph.
      So my question is, given I now have a Kendo 88 as my east coast daily driver (also intended to serve for yearly trips to the extremely well groomed Dolomites where I’ve recently skied Stöckli’s), would a Montero AR or an SR be a better complement to the quiver? I intend to part with the Brahma’s (skied them like I stole them these last few years) as well as a now noodle like pair of QST 95’s - my go to boards for days with my kids when they were younger. That would leave me with the Kendo’s and some 90Eight’s, both in 184, that I throw around on the rare fluffy days out here in the East (Tremblant/Sutton for me). Of course, I suspect I would no longer require the Kendo’s if I were to pick up either an AR84-185 or A SR88-184 (if memory serves).
      Great job as always guys!!
      TIA for any further thoughts.

    • @SkiEssentials
      @SkiEssentials  Год назад

      @@MrDox123 It's tough to say anything bad about the Stormrider 88, but when compared to the AR in an on-trail format, it's not really that close. I went back to back--AR first then 88, and I kind of wish I did it the other way. In a vacuum, the Stormrider is a wonderfully fantastic ski, but I think there's too much crossover between that and Kendo, unless you're looking for a different feel in a similar category. For a different ski experience in total, I'd go AR in the 185 all day. Very impressive skis. Have fun!
      SE/Bob

  • @kurtheisel455
    @kurtheisel455 Год назад

    Come on out to Sun Valley -- US Nationals in April. Come out the week before with some ski's, and have some locals ski with you, add their reviews...:)...happy to house you both!

    • @SkiEssentials
      @SkiEssentials  Год назад

      That sounds great! We'll look at some flights and reach out!

  • @lisao1186
    @lisao1186 4 месяца назад

    well done. thanks

    • @SkiEssentials
      @SkiEssentials  4 месяца назад +1

      The skis are well done, too. Skied the 2025's yesterday and somehow they made them smoother.

  • @paulydee1
    @paulydee1 2 года назад +1

    Hi - Thanks for the detailed review. When skiing it, both the AX and the AR, were your bindings on the recommended position. Did you move them forward at all. I've heard that a lot of people found the ski performs much better when its 2 points forward. Any feedback on this would be greatly appreciated. What bindings would u recommend for the AR. I was thinking of slapping a pivot on it. Which pivot would u recommend. As well, how would the MX83 compare to both, the AX and AR. Thanks in advance, Paul

    • @SkiEssentials
      @SkiEssentials  Год назад

      We hear that a lot too, but did not move our test bindings forward, probably because we were having such a great time. I have issues with the Pivot brake width on the AR--the 75 might not stretch that far while the 95 is too wide. I find that the narrower brakes don't have as much elasticity as the wider. I'd put a Strive 16 or an STH 16 with the 90 brakes on the AR all day and be happy. The Kastle doesn't feel nearly as quiet or damp as the Stockli. Tons of power, grip, energy, and rebound for sure, but not the same sound. That lack of sound is really what sets the Montero/Stockli line apart from Kastle. Have fun!
      SE

  • @1726doll
    @1726doll 2 года назад

    Hi Jeff and Bob:
    For all the skis your reviews sell for Stockli - I bought a pair of Laser ARs and SR95s as a result of them - I hope Stockli had the grace and gratitude to comp you each a pair of Monteros.
    BTW: I just put a Pivot 15 with 75 mm brake on my Lasers - is that too much of a stretch? Bob: I heard your reluctance to put them on your Monteros.
    Thanks again for all your great reviews. Keep on lightin' sparks and carving arcs you two!

    • @SkiEssentials
      @SkiEssentials  Год назад

      At the end of the day, these Stockli's sell themselves, but thanks for the kind words!
      I find that the narrower the Pivot brakes, the harder they are to stretch. I will not be putting a Pivot on my AR for that reason--I want the brakes tucked up there nicely. For all my Pivot snobbery, I literally will choose skis that will fit the brakes accordingly, and that almost put me on an AX rather than an AR, but I'd rather have the AR in the 185 with an STH or Strive over an AX 182 with a Pivot 75. I've had more luck bending the 95 brake to fit a 100-105 underfoot ski, mostly because I don't care as much about the precision or fit of the brake, but I do care more in the narrower skis. That said, if you find the 75 bends to fit the 83 mm AR, and it looks good to your eyes, then don't let me talk you out of it! Have a great winter!
      SE/Bob

    • @1726doll
      @1726doll Год назад

      Thank you for the thoughtful reply, Bob, and your caution about the brakes. I will give them a go, but I'll also keep a close on eye on them. BTW: does anyone use the old ski "leashes" anymore? Cheers!
      @@SkiEssentials

  • @tyfanuzzi5431
    @tyfanuzzi5431 2 года назад

    ski day and on lift talking and footage would be awesome! 22/23 quiver updates 👀

    • @SkiEssentials
      @SkiEssentials  2 года назад +1

      Noted! We like to wait until the mid to end of season as quivers change drastically between now and then.
      SE

  • @JustJoshin56
    @JustJoshin56 Год назад +1

    Great video! I liked your chat about comparing them to other skis and would definitely be interested in a ski day video with them. I'm at a point where I'm buying just one pair of skis and I have to plan trips well enough in advance that conditions will be what they'll be when I get there. So I'm looking for the ski that'll be my go to 90% of the time. Assuming I'm not the luckiest guy out there and skiing deep powder every single day, I've been looking at these skis. On groomers I like to vary my turn shapes and speeds depending on traffic/mood; I tend towards big faster gs turns on an open trail, but I like to be able to employ some snappier shorter turns to slow things down in traffic. My questions are: 1. Do you think these would suit me for that? 2. I also like skiing steep bumps, how do you think these skis would do there? Have you tried them on anything steep yet? 3. If it snows will I hate life? Growing up I would have considered 84 a wider ski... but I guess times have changed because I see people on the web talking about their 100s as if they're their carving groomer skis.

    • @SkiEssentials
      @SkiEssentials  Год назад

      Thanks!
      Anything on-trail, the AR simply destroys. The further you get away from that, the more you have to work to get it to perform. It has a lot of camber and isn't terribly light, so when the snow gets deep and the bumps get steep, it's just a handful. For an 84 of it's caliber, it still does just fine in other areas. Very grippy on the steeps, but for the bumps, there are better mid-80's skis out there for sure. Volkl Kanjo, Dynastar M-Pro 85, and Salomon Stance 84 come to mind as more supple skis in that range. They do not carve like the AR, but you have to be willing to make a sacrifice/compromise from time to time I suppose. The next move up would be to a fantastic group of 88's, at which point you have a whole lot to choose from. Stormrider 88, Enforcer 88, Brahma 88, Kendo 88...

    • @hopsterbb2571
      @hopsterbb2571 Год назад

      They are a heavy ski , but they give you a good feeling of stability! If you have power and good technique, they will perform well in steep bumps! I’ve enjoyed them on the bumps, took a few runs to get used to, but they are well worth the all around experience!

  • @brianhaklisch3780
    @brianhaklisch3780 Год назад

    Hi guys - great review. If I am buying the ski new, what binding would you recommend on the Montero AR with a Nordica Strider 130 boot with the grip soles?

    • @SkiEssentials
      @SkiEssentials  Год назад

      I have a Salomon STH 16 on my Montero AR and love it.

  • @AlpineRR26
    @AlpineRR26 Год назад +2

    Hello! I am an intermediate skier. I love hitting bumps on the side of trails but I also love the park. Park skis are a bit too expensive but I've noticed that some all-mountain skis are excellent in the park as well. This year I want to learn a rail and also more confidence on jumps. Also some basic spins and grabs. I am 5'3" 95 pounds. I am looking for a ski that will last the next 2-3 years. The k2 reckoner 92 skis are a great price and I feel like they are good. Do you think that these skis would fit my type. I think the k2 poachers would be a great fit but they are a bit too expensive especially them not coming with bindings. I hope to really imporove this year.

    • @SkiEssentials
      @SkiEssentials  Год назад

      HI Switz!
      I replied on your other message, but to reiterate, I think the 159 in the Reckoner 92 makes more sense for your stats and application, especially over the heavier Poacher. Have fun!
      SE

  • @NRRenggli
    @NRRenggli 2 года назад

    It would be nice if one of you put Pivots on & the other slapped the company system binding to compare & contrast for the on-snow video. 😃

    • @SkiEssentials
      @SkiEssentials  2 года назад +1

      Jeff will likely use a Pivot on his AX and I'll likely have either a Strive or an STH on my AR. The Strive system worked great in our testing, and looked about as sharp and clean as it gets. Keep an eye out!
      SE

  • @DrSparrow007
    @DrSparrow007 2 года назад +1

    Great Video. I'm thinking of getting the 175, 5 feet 10 intermediate-advance 180lb, just thinking if 170 would be more appropriate. Thanks!

    • @tonyg3091
      @tonyg3091 2 года назад +1

      It wont. Get the 175.

    • @SkiEssentials
      @SkiEssentials  2 года назад

      Hi John!
      I'd say 175 is appropriate. Have fun!
      SE

  • @jamesdiola4773
    @jamesdiola4773 Год назад

    Hey guys. Loving you review on these as i recently rented the antero ar at zermatt, switzerland. Perfect skies for their conditions top to bottom blue/red runs for over 20 mins. Just not sure if getting one for our east conditions here in upstate NY/Vermont area would be ideal. As to getting like a rustler 9 for more forgiving and fun ride.

    • @SkiEssentials
      @SkiEssentials  Год назад +1

      Maybe there's something in the middle? I feel like the 88-92 range has a lot to offer for where we are in VT. Some may find the 96 of the Rustler to be on the wide side, but it's certainly easy to ski even when it's firm. K2 Mindbender 89Ti, Salomon Stance 90, or QST 92 all make great eastern choices.

  • @steveliberman3000
    @steveliberman3000 2 года назад

    What about Bode's new Peak skis? They sell direct to customer, so NO DEMO. Do you get to test them? Their 88's seam like they would compare with the Montero AR. The Peaks come flat. If I went out on a limb and got the 88's, what bindings would you recommend?

    • @SkiEssentials
      @SkiEssentials  Год назад

      Hi Steve!
      We'll likely be able to get on them this year but haven't yet. If you're getting an 88 all-mountain ski, I like the STH, Strive, or Griffon for that width and application. Have fun!
      SE

  • @dick91p
    @dick91p 2 года назад

    Since I’m the only skier that I know of that has mounted a race plate on a pair of 2019/20 Laser AX’s and experimented with different mounting points, and thought that +2 CM of manufacturer’s recommendation increases the versatility of the ski and the flex feels more natural, here is what I suggest: That both of you try the same approach and spend one week at 0, one week at +1CM & one week at + 2CM. Then report via video your opinions. I think you will thank me for it (or hate me; who knows?).

    • @SkiEssentials
      @SkiEssentials  2 года назад

      Ha! It's kind of shocking how back the ski seems sometimes. I kind of like it, although I'm sure it wouldn't be too hard to convince Jeff to center mount his AX.
      SE

    • @dick91p
      @dick91p Год назад

      I think an ex-mogul competitor like you would appreciate the added versatility, Bob. It allows a more relaxed, more all-mountain, more neutral, taller stance. I’m sure Jeff would love it if he took the plunge.

  • @Matt-pt5hk
    @Matt-pt5hk Год назад

    Great video. How do the ARs compare to the Head Supershape Titans? Are they softer/more accessible? Thanks.

    • @SkiEssentials
      @SkiEssentials  Год назад +1

      Yes I'd say they are more flexible in the shovels, although the tails are pretty similar. There's still more of a race-like feel in the Titan, and while you can find it flat (no system binding), it's definitely meant for that system which gives it more front side power. I was very impressed with how my AR's handled about five or six inches of snow this year--very versatile especially for how smooth and stable it is on groomers and in a carved turn.

  • @denizmedcezir1106
    @denizmedcezir1106 Год назад +1

    Hi guys. Super videos as usual..
    if you have head super shape e-rally , would you buy AR??to invest 1500$??does it worth for buying??i would like to test it here in Switzerland but just asking your opinion

    • @SkiEssentials
      @SkiEssentials  Год назад

      Hello! That's a tough one. If it fits in your budget, yes, I do think you could justify owning both of those skis. The AR is way more soft snow capable and just more versatile than your Rally. Hope that helps and hope you can get out to test them!

  • @stanman1956
    @stanman1956 Год назад

    I’ve been watching a lot of your videos that include the Montero ARs and AX. One of these will be my next purchase based on your reviews. I get to ski Western slopes 1-2 times a year and have found even demo rental skis are not tuned properly and usually beat up. I’m going to start taking my own skis starting next season. Just need your recommendations on which model to purchase. Here’s my stats and skiing ability. 5’11”, age 66, skiing for 30+ years. Consider myself an advanced intermediate skier. Love groomed blues and blacks. Power is ok but not the deep stuff. Stay away from the bumps. Stöckli website says the AX is best fit based on my “find the right Ski” input. Your thoughts?

    • @SkiEssentials
      @SkiEssentials  Год назад

      The AX definitely has more on-trail capabilities and more torsional stiffness, so you're getting a grippier ski while the AR is slightly more versatile and more fond of long-radius turns and higher speeds. I'd think the AX lines up a bit better with your application. I'd say the 178 in that ski would be great, although I also don't think the 173 is too short.

  • @igorgoga7985
    @igorgoga7985 Год назад

    Guys, what skis are better for hard pack ( a bit more carving like) with the forgiving feeling of blizzard rustler 10 that I have (heavy tall guy). thank you

    • @SkiEssentials
      @SkiEssentials  Год назад +1

      A nice bendy and carvy ski that I like is the K2 Mindbender 89Ti. Partial metal, shorter radius, and narrower waist all add up to on-piste carving fun. Good strength for larger skiers, too!
      SE

  • @LLeon-no6jw
    @LLeon-no6jw Год назад

    Just placed my order for the 170 Montero ARs! I wish SkiEssentials was selling the Strive Blue matching Salomon bindings. I have to take them to another shop, buy the bindings and have them mounted because I really wanted your in-house application of the DPS Phantom 2.0 Base Treatment.
    Would you recommend the STH or Strive 16 on the 170's ? Is a 90 breaks my best option? (I'm 5'9 160 lbs) Thank you for the great job reviewing the Stockli's!!!

    • @SkiEssentials
      @SkiEssentials  Год назад +1

      We still Phantom non-mounted skis, if it's not too late. I also don't know this for sure, but I don't think you can get the matching bindings if it's not a demo Strive, so you may want to check on that. I'm going with an all-black Armada STH 16 on my AR with the 90 brake if you want to match!

  • @dick91p
    @dick91p 2 года назад +1

    Viewer #267 here. Thank you guys.

  • @dangraban8098
    @dangraban8098 Год назад

    Would you put a Tyrolia attack on the AR? They make a blue one that would match color. I think they make the blue one in a 14 and 17 DIN. In general what is your opinion of the Attack vs the Salomon or pivots? Or what would be your thoughts on the Attack for the AR?

    • @SkiEssentials
      @SkiEssentials  Год назад

      While I think the color match would be great, I'm nervous about the width, especially in the toe piece. It'll probably be just fine, but the Salomon STH or Strive bindings fit a lot better. Love the Attacks, but they are mainly built for slightly wider skis due to the footprint of the toe piece.

    • @dangraban8098
      @dangraban8098 Год назад

      @@SkiEssentials thanks for the response! Greatly appreciated! That definitely makes sense

  • @stigslorrydrivingcousin5754
    @stigslorrydrivingcousin5754 2 года назад

    How does Montero AR compare to other brands' top of the line carving all montain skis, say Volkl VWerks Deacon or Elan Porsche Design Amphibio ?

    • @SkiEssentials
      @SkiEssentials  2 года назад

      I'd say the Montero lies a bit more on the all-mountain side of the spectrum versus VWerks, Fischer RC One 86 GT, Supershape e-Titan, or Salomon S/Force Bold. Somewhere in between those and skis like Volkl Kanjo, Salomon Stance 84, and Dynastar M-Pro 85. I'd put it more comparable to Elan Wingman 86 CTi in terms of front side performance in a wider format, but also offered flat. A pretty rare and unique combination, and at a higher-level of performance. It might not be as pure of a carver as the front-side specialists, but it's right there. Have fun!
      SE

  • @BianchideservesWDC
    @BianchideservesWDC Год назад

    Hey ski essentials I have the Kastle proto 88 how do these compare to the stockil AR

    • @SkiEssentials
      @SkiEssentials  Год назад

      The Stockli feels sturdier than the Proto. We had them in stock a few years back and they have a fantastic finish to them for sure, but the weight of the Stockli makes it about as smooth and powerful as it gets. Nothing wrong with the Kastle, just Stockli takes the power to the next level.

  • @BrandonMeyer1641
    @BrandonMeyer1641 2 года назад +1

    Could skiessentials get Jeff and bob to do a longer format video on boots? What do you guys ride? What are your opinions on flex? What do think are the differences between cabrio and 4 buckle overlap on the hill? What are best practices when it comes to sizing and modifications to fit via molding the liner or shell. I’m in the market for a boot as the ones I have now are old, cause pain, and seen a little stiff for technical terrain where you need jump turns and such. I don’t want to pull the trigger on a boot and be regretting it after the fact.

    • @Bushwacked487
      @Bushwacked487 2 года назад

      The only appropriate answer to all of that is, unfortunately, “ask a boot fitter”

    • @patrion6028
      @patrion6028 2 года назад +1

      @@Bushwacked487 That's the only right answer. You can buys skis without demoing them, but unless you're just buying another pair of boots you already own, get professional help, it'll come a long way! The gain in confidence once you trust your boots, the improved power transfer and gained accuracy, can't be put in words accurately.

    • @SkiEssentials
      @SkiEssentials  2 года назад

      I like this format, Brendan. Lots and lots of good discussions to have on this topic.

  • @garyanderson1987
    @garyanderson1987 3 месяца назад +1

    I have VÖLKL V-WERKS RTM from 2006 Best I’ve ever skied on with these AR skis be better sideways move or downhill?

    • @SkiEssentials
      @SkiEssentials  3 месяца назад

      The AR is more downhill/fall-line oriented. I love mine but they are very fast. The slightly lighter V.Werks is a bit happier coming across the fall line in a rounder turn.

    • @garyanderson1987
      @garyanderson1987 3 месяца назад

      Not 2006 but 2012 or around there. I have the V 90Eight also and hate them.

  • @gregor1
    @gregor1 2 года назад

    Great review as always. You seemed to need more A/C at the end of the video. By the way, concerning the bindings, Stöckli usually recommends some good ones, even if the ski comes flat. Like the Stöckli (Salomon) XM13 for their Stormrider range and so on.

    • @SkiEssentials
      @SkiEssentials  2 года назад +1

      Don't get us started on the A/C situation in our office! They use their Strive demo which is color-coded and works great. I'll likely put a retail Strive 16 or STH 16 on an AR. The Pivot 75 will be too narrow and the 95 too wide, so I have to think outside my normal Pivot binding box. Thanks for the comment!
      SE

  • @truthdectector4002
    @truthdectector4002 Год назад

    How would you say the AR performs in bumps and trees when you need quick reaction...I just picked up a pair and they absolutely smoke on groomers, no chatter and solid to the surface of the snow.

    • @SkiEssentials
      @SkiEssentials  Год назад

      If I had to choose a weakness for this ski, it'd likely be quick reaction in the bumps and trees. It's on the heavier and stiffer side with basically no rocker, so getting it to make those quick turns requires more of a commitment and effort on the skier's part. If you're willing to put in the work, it'll do it, but there will be complaints from the ski.

  • @steveliberman3000
    @steveliberman3000 2 года назад +1

    It's me again. Sorry to be a pest. Last winter I demoed the Laser AX and loved it. I loved your Montero AX review and thought I'd made a decision - but NO! Now I see how great the AR is. AX/AR? AX/AR? Help!!!

    • @SkiEssentials
      @SkiEssentials  2 года назад +1

      Steve, there is literally no wrong answer here. I prefer the wider AR, and the fact that it comes in a 185 is very appealing to me. Since I'm 225 pounds, I tend to push through the narrower skis on anything other than very firm snow, so I like the versatility of the slightly wider AR. The other thing about the AR is that I feel better about getting a narrower ski still--something in the 72-range, while with the AX, I think I'd be content with that being my front side specialist. Hope that helps!
      SE

  • @wallstreetoneil
    @wallstreetoneil 2 года назад

    I would go with the Marker piston race plate with the newer grip-walk-compatible toe pieces - that way, no matter what boot you have on, you can always grab the Stocklis.

    • @SkiEssentials
      @SkiEssentials  Год назад

      I always like where your head's at, Paul!
      SE

  • @jeffo771234
    @jeffo771234 Год назад +1

    What Bob's height and weight? I think he is the person who demo'd the ski in the video? I am 5'10 , 200lbs, and not sure if the 180 or 185 is best. Just curious. Thank you.

    • @SkiEssentials
      @SkiEssentials  Год назад

      Bob's 6'2" and about 225 lbs. He actually was skiing on the 180 cm in this video, but ended up getting a 185 for himself. We just chatted about it and we both agree you'd most likely prefer the 180 cm length.

    • @doubleyou2148
      @doubleyou2148 Год назад

      @@SkiEssentials hi i am 176cm and 84kg what size do i need skied like 40weeks and i am sporty 178 or 173? thank yo for the answer

    • @doubleyou2148
      @doubleyou2148 Год назад

      sorry for the AX?

  • @julianmuller8894
    @julianmuller8894 10 месяцев назад

    How do you think the Montero AX/AR compare to dynastars speed 763 or 963?

    • @SkiEssentials
      @SkiEssentials  10 месяцев назад

      Width and turn shape stick out as the big differences. All have high-end builds and quality components, but the Dynastars are narrower and more race-turn oriented while the Monteros have more all-mountain capabilities. The AX is more in line with the 763, as they're closer in turn shape and waist width, but the AR and the 963 are quite different from each other. If you're looking for a de-tuned race ski, lean to the Dynastar, but if you want some all-mountain versatility, Stockli is a sharp ski with decent range.

    • @julianmuller8894
      @julianmuller8894 10 месяцев назад

      @@SkiEssentials Thank you very much I appreciate the response. Follow up question: which Look binding would you recommend for the AX?
      Much appreciated

  • @paulrakovich6406
    @paulrakovich6406 2 года назад +1

    Would you spend the money & replace 2020 ARs?

    • @SkiEssentials
      @SkiEssentials  Год назад

      I don't think it's enough of a wholesale change to make that call. If the Lasers are in good shape, I'd stick to that.
      SE

  • @vidarkorsbergdalsb1467
    @vidarkorsbergdalsb1467 7 месяцев назад +1

    Great skis for most conditions. Not as fun and fast as SL WRT, but if you neee only one pair of skis this is it.

  • @alexmalafeev5344
    @alexmalafeev5344 Год назад +1

    When are you guys making over to Tahoe? We can ski together :) You can even crash at my place...

    • @SkiEssentials
      @SkiEssentials  Год назад

      Maybe this year? We didn't make it to California last year, but it's on the list!

  • @gregx8435
    @gregx8435 Год назад

    I have ordered these from you in 185 with pivots. Given the brake sizing, will it work?

    • @SkiEssentials
      @SkiEssentials  Год назад

      HI Greg! The 95 brake will hang a bit. I opted for a Salomon STH 16 with 90 brake, even though I love my Pivots!
      SE

    • @Peoplecallmejer
      @Peoplecallmejer 5 месяцев назад

      You'll be fine as long as you're not laying over turns to the degree where you're literally dragging your hips on the slope.

  • @swedishburrito5073
    @swedishburrito5073 9 месяцев назад +1

    👍❤

  • @langmeng825
    @langmeng825 Год назад +1

    “We are not going out tonight, because I want a new ski” means there will be no more ski ever.

    • @SkiEssentials
      @SkiEssentials  Год назад

      You can do it! Just a few budget changes, and we have affirm if you want to make payments!
      www.skiessentials.com/2023-stockli-montero-ar-skis-w-marker-griffon-13-id-bindings.html#

  • @kodyadams5561
    @kodyadams5561 Год назад +6

    ANY OF STOCKLI SKIS ARE THE BEST SKI ON THE PLANET FROM 64 MM TO 102MM . ONCE YOU SKIIED STOCKLI ALL THE REST ARE SECONDARY. STOCKLI ARE THE ‘BUGATTI’’ OF SKIIS , AND PAIR THEM WITH MARKER PRO BINDINGS AND DALBELLO BOOTS AND YOU HAVE GONE TO HEAVEN .

  • @brianoconnor3407
    @brianoconnor3407 Год назад +1

    These reviews are useless if the buyer does not know how to ski. End of story. Classic marketing BS, but appreciate the sincerity of the delivery. I ski my Stockli fellers in all conditions. I do not have a quiver to change during the day as it changes conditions, nor would I want to. I am looking at buying something a bit wider underfoot, perhaps 88 cm, but it must be a turning radius of less than 18 meters. I plan to demo a few and then buy a Demo set up from a company like Powder 7. But that is just me.

    • @SkiEssentials
      @SkiEssentials  Год назад

      Appreciate the feedback, Brian! We're certainly not trying to just spew out marketing BS. We really try our best to objectively describe the skis we review and who it would be best for. You should be able to find plenty of skis in the ~88 range with a radius less than 18 m. Our demos typically go on sale in mid March. Have a great season!!