@@19hundoc47 Because it beat a similarly priced vehicle with a larger engine (2.0L vs. 2.4L) marketed towards the same customer base that came out 24 years later, and you can't even blame emissions regs. How does your 24 year old computer compare to today? How about a 24 year old f-150 compared to today? Because the ap1 s2000 went on sale in 1999; that's why it's impressive.
@@P4NC4K35 lol not even close dude. The s2k was 33k new back in 99? That’s 60k in todays dollars. So now compare the s2k to a 3.0 Supra and there’s your fair dollar to dollar fight. 33k today for an 86 was 20k back in 1999. So explain to me again how the s2k beating an 86 is impressive lol
@@19hundoc47s2000 here are around 35-40k Cad. New GT86s are 45-50k Cad… go find me a 33k gt86 in todays market please. There’s something called msrp and the actual mark up cost.
Well, the s2000 was in the Boxter, BMW Z3 category of sports cars when released in 2000, not entry level like a Miata for example. The GR86 is the entry level sports car of today that finally caught up to the mid segment sports cars from 20 years ago.
@@30hours51 Porsche boxster shouldn't be held as a reference. Even the 200 HP front wheel drive Integra beats the boxster around a track. It was a terrible car.
I rode in a S2000 a decade and a half ago once and was hooked from the start. Still an incredible machine regardless of age. I love it and still want one eventually. Amazing video Ciro and Ash!!
v8 guys will still ignore all the mechanical power and engineering even though many non turbo honda motors even ones found in civic si's and type r's are more power dense than a nascar let alone most American sports cars. dohc vtec engines are high performance engines it doesn't matter if they are small so when people scoff at me needing premium in my honda even when it says on the dash and gas cap to use premium only I cant help but look down on them when they look down on me lol.
GR86 with 4 seats and trunk is a winner to me. More useable/practical. Lived with various mr2s over the years. Having a sportscar that can do more than just weekend fun is great.
I packed a bunch of luggage and went on a 4000+ mile road trip in my s2000. Just don't pack a hard shell suitcase for the airport and you'll be able to do 90% of the daily stuff you could with a civic.
Honestly, the two don't even compare to me. The GR86 is somewhat practical but the driving experience of the S2k completely outshines the GR86 in every way IMO.
@@nycyabber7103outshines is a stretch. Gr86 is honestly a future classic. If nostalgia isn't a factor, I don't really see why you'd pick an s2k over a brand new gr86.
@@alexc7864 Idk I was shopping for a new GR86 and ended up with a S2k. Wasn't even shopping for an S2k but once I drove it compared to all the GR86s I test drove, I wanted nothing else. It was that much better to me.
I owned an S2000 for 12 glorious years. I also owned a BRZ for 1 year. Thanks for this awesome side-by-side. I'm impressed how the newer gen GR 86 kept up as well as it did. The older gen I owned definitely felt slow compared to my S2000. I was rooting for the Honda to win, and I'm glad it eked out victory, however close.
@@nicolasrosa37 I would say that, the new 2.4 is over a second faster to 60mph and does 215hp/170lb. to the wheels, gen1 can't compete without force induction. The numbers they gave (6.4s is too high, it's more like 5.8s in a drag, on the manual anyways)
My dad has a red S2000 exactly like that one. He bought it new in 2009, one of the last to be imported before production ended. I have driven it lots over the years and it still puts a smile on my face every time I drive it. You don’t get cars like the S2000 anymore which is sad because it is such a simple machine - great chassis and handling, NA engine, short shift gearbox, relatively low weight. It is a driver’s car and it wants to be driven. It is an irreplaceable car in my opinion.
By the end I didnt care who won. I thought it was a perfect race. The S2000 is THAT car. It was way ahead of it's time and still competes well against modern cars with similar power and weight. The GR is no joke either. That 2.4 boxer has given it the power it has always needed with less of the toque dip (it's still there but not as big) and increase of toque to now make it go. Excellent video
He learned from the first launch to let the first gear rung out much later in the revs. Giving the 2nd gear a good run. Otherwise it would have boughs down.
@@chevyss934 oh ok , well I really enjoy the GR86 and thoroughly glad I got a new one. I’m glad that Toyota partnered with Suburu with engineering the car they designed.
Great race! I have a 2007 S2000 AP2 with the 2.2 liter engine with more torque, same HP. From what I have seen it is slightly quicker in the 1/4 Mile than the AP1, 2 Liter version. Mine is Red also, so I was cheering for the S2000! My Sister just purchased a GR 86 recently. Both cars are lots of fun!
I'm really happy to see the S2000 punching hard but for pete's sake, this video is going to keep the second hand values high 😂 Some of us are trying to live out our 90's fantasies here!
@@kushlord1989 I think the GR will take an AP1, but damn for a car 20 years old with less torque and 0.4L less that is impressive. With a turbo I would bet the Honda has the advantage.
Now take em on a track or autocross course! I sat in an S2000 for Autocross and I thought I remember people saying it didn't have that much power (or maybe torque) but it impressed me, seemed pretty powerful and handled awesomely.
@@InTheZone85 not when it comes to power. The s2000 engine and the bmw m3 engine are few engines to make more than 100 hp per cylinder. Brz makes 230 hp out of 2.4 cyl which is not bad and I get 25 mpg, while having a back seats and a full touch screen and luxuries that the s2000 doesn’t include
@Tony Cruise Skate Ministry this is not true. I do believe the current line up of toyotas are better. But honda has a nice line up of 4 cylinders that are very potent and reliable. Toyota are just as good as far as reliability but Hondas are faster.
S2000 is at a whole different level: comes with a true double wishbone suspension, a bespoke engine, one of the best gear boxes in the world at any price and exceptional build quality. 0-60 or 1/4 times was never a priority for the s2000, but it’s interesting to see how it measures up against the 86.
@@darkknight097 mine too, works perfectly still! After 20 years, i changed the urea grease (that Honda fat stuff) and the plastic stuff just as a precaution.
As an S2000 owner, I am soo proud to see how it keeps up with modern machinery. The S2000 is a legend and a classic. Over 20 years from launch over a 10 year production run and a birthday present to Honda itself, the S2000 can’t be beaten for a sports car. It’s amazing.
Don’t let this distract you from the fact that Hector is going to be running three Honda civics with spoon engines, and on top of that, he just went into Harry’s and bought three t66 turbos with nos, and a motec exhaust system.
Before race: This fool is running a Honda 2000. I'll win. Then me and my dad can roll together when he gets out of prison. It's all good. After race: NO! S#!T! OH, GOD!
That rainbow like RPM gauge is amazing !!! I still remember my 1st ride in my buddy's S2K DAMN it was so bad ass, 9000 RPM Redline is unheard of these days in a stock production vehicle & RWD 4 banger as well
@@30hours51 Wrong... The S2000 was built to celebrate Honda's 50th anniversary, not to compete with porsche... Honda started the design and prototyping in 1995 almost 2 years before the boxster came out. They wanted a modern version of their S800 roadster from the 60's.
I put 120k miles on an AP1 and sold it for more than I bought it 12 years ago. Such a fun car. I just bought a GR86 that should be delivered in a few days, I just hope it's as fun as the S2k was.
What a Great Race! I enjoyed this thoroughly! If only Toyota continued developing it's iconic engines like the 4A-GE which used to rev to 8000rpm back in the day, they would have produced something truly special by now...
Toyota's iconic 4AGE engine is a copy of the British Cosworth BDA engine that had been around for quite some time back then and there's all kinds of modifications possible made to them by now.
This gave me goosebumps 🥴. Ciro, if you think this GR86 is fun, I can't wait for you guys to test out the new GR Supra Manual when that launches. That is my dream. I know I've been telling you guys this for quite a few times but please do a video review of it when the car launches and comes for test. It will honestly make my heart happy. Absolutely enjoyed this video and Hannes's S2000 is a monster 👻 👽
S2000s need to be launched hard due to all its power being in the higher rpms. In the right hands an s2000 is quick. This race had me sitting on the edge of my seat! Loved it!
Don’t forget , double wishbones on all 4 conners , 245 tires in the back that when upgraded came with even more body reinforcement , entire engine set behind the front wheels , proper race type oil pan baffle, cooling fins on the bottom of engine and transmission and transmission oil is being pumped all on the S2000. This is a track car for the street !A lot of money not spent on bells and whistles not even a glove box or adjustable steering column . The car does not have two pipes coming out of one muffler to give the appearance of a of a fast car , but two actual , complete mufflers for power not a poser like the gr-86 .Lastly adjusted for inflation , the S2000 was a $55,000 car so unlike the 86/ BRZ , the builders were not effected by bean counters and it was built in a special plant until 2005 much by hand by Hondas best techs right next to the NSX . The car could have done better in a drag race . Because of its lower torque peak , it all depends on how much your willing to burn your clutch to get a good lift off . It was not made to be a drag car so lift off not a issue . Excluding more power thru the application of direct injection , what is something modern does it need to do better ? Nothing but the most up to date tires so age is not a factor . The GR -86 is a GT car and the S2000 is a track car two different animals so when you say the S2000 does not have a back seat , I say so what !!!!
Yall dudes made it fun man no bias no crying just car dudes having a good time with 2 great cars even though I'm a Honda guy. It takes alot to compete with the s2000 it has put muscle cars to shame. It's one of the great pieces of engineering that everybody should respect. Considering what it does with an I 4 engine
While I agree the s2000 did phenomenally I just want to mention that the 09 s2000 was sold for AU70k new in Australia, whereas the gr86 and brz zd8 are selling for around 45-50k. It’s really great what Subaru and Toyota are doing at what is most likely a low profit compared to their other models 👍
It’s great they’re making NA rear wheel drive cars but they don’t have the quality of the S2000, that’s why they were so expensive and you can still feel it now when you drive one, gearbox, engine and chassis are unreal!
I owned a first gen BRZ and recently got the S2000 I bought 6 months ago back on the road. It still needs work before it will be back in it's prime but I'm loving it already
I used to work for an insurance company many years ago and a guy called one Saturday morning, i could tell something was wrong. Naturally, because of my position, i knew it was bad news. Nothing prepared me for what he was calling for. Long story short: A "newly licensed" young female driver in her brand new X3 lost control on the N1 into this guy and he bounced off the central barriers multiple times. The car? Black S2000 with a black hardtop, stock, very well taken care of and 30k on the dash, virtually brand new! he only had it for a month (if i remember correctly) after searching for about a year for one. It was his dream car. The car was written-off with no way to rebuild it. And i had to call him to deliver the news, at that moment it felt like i was delivering news to an army spouse about the sad demise of a close friend killed on the battlefield. That was the most saddest day of my career, i tell the story all the time to my mates. 1 less S2k in South Africa 😟 They walked away from the accident unscathed and yes...he was on a coffee run with some buddies.
Look at the how low the belt line in s2k is compared to gr86. They are both one of better if not best designed front engine/rear wheel drive cars of their time but my god the s2000 has that classic old school British roadster proportion, long dash to axle short front over hang, low belt line classic E type. Due to high belt line GR86 looks more modern but proportional it looks flaw against the s2000
vtec really helped a lot here since it enabled the s2000 to push higher rpm than gr86.. by the time gr86 reached it's redline s2000 is still nowhere near it's limit.. it really shown at 7:11 when gr86 changed gear and fall behind while s2000 is still running..
Traded my 06 S2000 for my Type R. Sometimes I wish I kept the S2000 though. I absolutely loved that car. What a blast to drive and the sound of that screaming F22 at 8k rpm was a symphony of pure magic. Such an Incredible and we'll engineered machine
@@alexlopez2995 haha actually not, it was a AP1, only the US and (later in 2006 Japan) got the AP2. Rest of the world was able to keep the AP1 with a facelift.
S2000 still continues to prove that it’s been the real deal for over 20yrs, good stuff Honda!
Because it beat the cheapest and lowest powered sports coupe available today?
@@19hundoc47 Because it beat a similarly priced vehicle with a larger engine (2.0L vs. 2.4L) marketed towards the same customer base that came out 24 years later, and you can't even blame emissions regs. How does your 24 year old computer compare to today? How about a 24 year old f-150 compared to today? Because the ap1 s2000 went on sale in 1999; that's why it's impressive.
@@P4NC4K35 lol not even close dude. The s2k was 33k new back in 99? That’s 60k in todays dollars. So now compare the s2k to a 3.0 Supra and there’s your fair dollar to dollar fight. 33k today for an 86 was 20k back in 1999. So explain to me again how the s2k beating an 86 is impressive lol
@@19hundoc47 S2k is around 20 euro where i live sometimes 15 k lol
@@19hundoc47s2000 here are around 35-40k Cad. New GT86s are 45-50k Cad… go find me a 33k gt86 in todays market please. There’s something called msrp and the actual mark up cost.
This was probably the best drag race I've seen in two decades... WoW... what a finish...
We're so glad to hear this. Thanks for watching
Look up gr86 vs mk4 supra
Facts!
lol
Extremely impressed how the S2000 still holds up today.
Well, the s2000 was in the Boxter, BMW Z3 category of sports cars when released in 2000, not entry level like a Miata for example. The GR86 is the entry level sports car of today that finally caught up to the mid segment sports cars from 20 years ago.
yea no fucking shit it was competing with the porsche boxsters,
@@30hours51 Porsche boxster shouldn't be held as a reference. Even the 200 HP front wheel drive Integra beats the boxster around a track. It was a terrible car.
Keep in mind the s2k was a 60-65k car in todays equivalence..
It's racing the second slowest sports car in today's market. It's not that impressive...
I rode in a S2000 a decade and a half ago once and was hooked from the start. Still an incredible machine regardless of age. I love it and still want one eventually. Amazing video Ciro and Ash!!
S2000 is such a gem of a car. The F20C is an engineering masterpiece too. Great races, especially the last one.
v8 guys will still ignore all the mechanical power and engineering even though many non turbo honda motors even ones found in civic si's and type r's are more power dense than a nascar let alone most American sports cars. dohc vtec engines are high performance engines it doesn't matter if they are small so when people scoff at me needing premium in my honda even when it says on the dash and gas cap to use premium only I cant help but look down on them when they look down on me lol.
This is one of the most amazing drag races I've seen!! And it is between two simple 200HP cars!! Not some supercars!
GR86 with 4 seats and trunk is a winner to me. More useable/practical. Lived with various mr2s over the years. Having a sportscar that can do more than just weekend fun is great.
I packed a bunch of luggage and went on a 4000+ mile road trip in my s2000. Just don't pack a hard shell suitcase for the airport and you'll be able to do 90% of the daily stuff you could with a civic.
Honestly, the two don't even compare to me. The GR86 is somewhat practical but the driving experience of the S2k completely outshines the GR86 in every way IMO.
@@nycyabber7103outshines is a stretch. Gr86 is honestly a future classic. If nostalgia isn't a factor, I don't really see why you'd pick an s2k over a brand new gr86.
@@alexc7864 Idk I was shopping for a new GR86 and ended up with a S2k. Wasn't even shopping for an S2k but once I drove it compared to all the GR86s I test drove, I wanted nothing else. It was that much better to me.
20 years old and the Honda still more than holds its own! I love my S2000!
I owned an S2000 for 12 glorious years. I also owned a BRZ for 1 year. Thanks for this awesome side-by-side. I'm impressed how the newer gen GR 86 kept up as well as it did. The older gen I owned definitely felt slow compared to my S2000. I was rooting for the Honda to win, and I'm glad it eked out victory, however close.
One of the best Japanese race , S2000 still keeping up with new school after 20 years is wonderful
I wouldn't say that the twins are new school
@@nicolasrosa37 I would say that, the new 2.4 is over a second faster to 60mph and does 215hp/170lb. to the wheels, gen1 can't compete without force induction. The numbers they gave (6.4s is too high, it's more like 5.8s in a drag, on the manual anyways)
I’m never selling mine ❤
As a S2000 owner, I smiled when I saw that launch, that's how you properly launch a S2000! Keep the RPM up at all cost to keep that power coming!
Yep, had to launch my AP1's at like 8500rpms to make sure you landed above 6k rpms for vtec. Otherwise you bog or land out of vtec= 1st race.
My dad has a red S2000 exactly like that one. He bought it new in 2009, one of the last to be imported before production ended. I have driven it lots over the years and it still puts a smile on my face every time I drive it. You don’t get cars like the S2000 anymore which is sad because it is such a simple machine - great chassis and handling, NA engine, short shift gearbox, relatively low weight. It is a driver’s car and it wants to be driven. It is an irreplaceable car in my opinion.
you dont get cars like that anymore ?? how about the car it was racing or mazda mx5 ??
@@rhett7716 nothing wrong with an mx5 but nothing beats an ol reliable coupe from honda. Especially the 2.4 it had at the time.
the 09 will fetch a high price if your dad decides to sell it. Problem is, any replacement is a downgrade!
04-05 is the best years, it was before they switched to electronic throttle
THAT 3RD RACE YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH WAS AWESOME!!!!! THANKS FOR THE VIDEO
Driver skill is huge for the performance of a S2000. S2000 Driver did extremely well for his first time behind the wheel.
Facts! I agree
Right! He went gentle the first time and then realized he had to launch it high in the rev band.
By the end I didnt care who won. I thought it was a perfect race. The S2000 is THAT car. It was way ahead of it's time and still competes well against modern cars with similar power and weight. The GR is no joke either. That 2.4 boxer has given it the power it has always needed with less of the toque dip (it's still there but not as big) and increase of toque to now make it go. Excellent video
we need more showdowns like this old school vs new school
Ash is great at launching manual cars, always impressed how he is able to do it even with FWD cars.
He learned from the first launch to let the first gear rung out much later in the revs. Giving the 2nd gear a good run.
Otherwise it would have boughs down.
@nboy7, not sure if you know, neither of these 2 cars is fwd.
@@brianwkunklecih7724 he didn’t say they were😂
Really-really awesome drag race, was really amazed with the Honda S2000 VTEC !
I have driven too many cars in my life , but it is the S2000 deserve my admiration
One of the best I have seen. Really engages the viewer!
This is great to hear, thanks for watching :)
That was so good to watch, 2 great cars & 2 great guys having fun
This was so much fun to watch!
Guys this was absolutely and truly amazing... I loved every second of it... That S2000 is a great machine.
We're so glad to hear this, thank you for watching
At least Toyota is still making sports cars we can buy today.
Also the fact that we have it in SA.
100 percent. People complain Abt brz and GR but we are lucky to have Toyota make these amazing handling cars at affordable price..
Toyota isnt doing anything but rebadging cars lets be clear lmao toyota has lost its MOJO
@@chevyss934 oh ok , well I really enjoy the GR86 and thoroughly glad I got a new one. I’m glad that Toyota partnered with Suburu with engineering the car they designed.
@@CrimsonOrguss toyota didn't do ntn but slapped a badge on the car and changed cosmetics on the outside lol
Great news either way. The legend is worthy of the title, and we can still buy that performance today.
Great video! I freaking stood up from my chair at the last race cuz it was so close!
This is so great to hear! Thanks for watching
That s2000 is so beautiful 😍, really impressive 👏🏾
Love races like this!
It does not need to be super fast but it is fun.
That was exciting!!! Good driving guys!
Great race! I have a 2007 S2000 AP2 with the 2.2 liter engine with more torque, same HP. From what I have seen it is slightly quicker in the 1/4 Mile than the AP1, 2 Liter version. Mine is Red also, so I was cheering for the S2000! My Sister just purchased a GR 86 recently. Both cars are lots of fun!
Oww yesss bring back them Drag races!!!!😁
that s2k is gorgeous
And has a beautiful sounding in-line 4 engine!
I'm really happy to see the S2000 punching hard but for pete's sake, this video is going to keep the second hand values high 😂 Some of us are trying to live out our 90's fantasies here!
Min 400k for one with low km like this one.
LMFAO!
Glad I got my ap1 even tho it's broken right now hahaha
@@kushlord1989 I think the GR will take an AP1, but damn for a car 20 years old with less torque and 0.4L less that is impressive. With a turbo I would bet the Honda has the advantage.
@R Camacho yea . Not with me driving tho lol
A really good race! S2000 still got it! I driven one years ago! It handles well, sounds good and luv the VTEC!
Great races
Drag races. This is what I live for 😍❤️
Bought an S2000 almost, gosh, 20 years ago now and this video brought back so many good memories.
Awesome race there gents
Really love the 3rd race
Honda s2000 is still the number 1 fastest NA 2.0 motor on the market
Well done gents
3:43 What a spectacular drone shot!
The honda driver never let's us down...well done ash
F20C, greatest NA 2.0 L engine of all time. Period.
F22.
Depending where you live.
Now take em on a track or autocross course! I sat in an S2000 for Autocross and I thought I remember people saying it didn't have that much power (or maybe torque) but it impressed me, seemed pretty powerful and handled awesomely.
Great drag race 🏁 thanks
These 2 are fairly evenly matched together regardless of the age difference in all a great video that s2000 Honda is in good shape too for its age 👍👍
Epic battle. Never selling my S, but respect to all the Toyobaru operators out there.
s2000s are great cars but for a 4 seater that cost less than the 2 seater and still do what it does is amazing
@@tonycruise one car is 20 years newer. That is light years in terms of car technology
@@InTheZone85 not when it comes to power. The s2000 engine and the bmw m3 engine are few engines to make more than 100 hp per cylinder. Brz makes 230 hp out of 2.4 cyl which is not bad and I get 25 mpg, while having a back seats and a full touch screen and luxuries that the s2000 doesn’t include
@@tonycruise true, i have a s2000 and it would never go as the only car or even a daily, you also need a GR Yaris besides it for winter and shopping
The S2000 reminds me why I'm a Honda fan 🏁🏁🏁
and the gr86 reminds me why i always pick toyota over honda =)
Honda makes the best 4 bangers combined with the best gear boxes.
@@notsure3535 they make fast engines but not as reliable as Toyota
@Tony Cruise Skate Ministry this is not true. I do believe the current line up of toyotas are better. But honda has a nice line up of 4 cylinders that are very potent and reliable. Toyota are just as good as far as reliability but Hondas are faster.
S2000 is at a whole different level: comes with a true double wishbone suspension, a bespoke engine, one of the best gear boxes in the world at any price and exceptional build quality. 0-60 or 1/4 times was never a priority for the s2000, but it’s interesting
to see how it measures up against the 86.
The gearboxes were only good for a few quick changes before they started grinding and crunching.
The S2k was always meant to be a special car. The twins were meant for ordinary folks who wanted a cheap daily.
@Masr ali my 05 AP2 still shifts like butter. Maybe you should learn to change gears better
@@darkknight097 mine too, works perfectly still! After 20 years, i changed the urea grease (that Honda fat stuff) and the plastic stuff just as a precaution.
@@masrali4696 My 00 S2000 has never grinded gears. My NSX on the other hand will grind second when cold.
As an S2000 owner, I am soo proud to see how it keeps up with modern machinery. The S2000 is a legend and a classic. Over 20 years from launch over a 10 year production run and a birthday present to Honda itself, the S2000 can’t be beaten for a sports car. It’s amazing.
I have an AP2 2005 S2000 and I absolutely love it. I think I’ll grab a second probably an AP1 down the road to build.
Don’t let this distract you from the fact that Hector is going to be running three Honda civics with spoon engines, and on top of that, he just went into Harry’s and bought three t66 turbos with nos, and a motec exhaust system.
🤣🤣
Getting old now
Get a life
Before race: This fool is running a Honda 2000. I'll win. Then me and my dad can roll together when he gets out of prison. It's all good.
After race: NO! S#!T! OH, GOD!
A couple of SR20s will pull a premium right before Race Wars!
S2000 is a beast! 20 years and still a mechanical marvel.
This was awesome💯🔥
Hats off to you Mr. Ash, very well driven!
Closest drag race by far ! Awesome 👌
That rainbow like RPM gauge is amazing !!! I still remember my 1st ride in my buddy's S2K DAMN it was so bad ass, 9000 RPM Redline is unheard of these days in a stock production vehicle & RWD 4 banger as well
20 years older and 20% down on displacement, still wins. Mega.
It was down to the driver, but how it held up after roughly two decades is remarkable.
bc it was built to compete with porsches, the gr86 is made to compete with the mx5.......
@@30hours51 Wrong... The S2000 was built to celebrate Honda's 50th anniversary, not to compete with porsche... Honda started the design and prototyping in 1995 almost 2 years before the boxster came out. They wanted a modern version of their S800 roadster from the 60's.
@@tracewaybos I seen the prototype. It looks pretty badass.
and it also is way less practical and doesnt have back seats
I put 120k miles on an AP1 and sold it for more than I bought it 12 years ago. Such a fun car. I just bought a GR86 that should be delivered in a few days, I just hope it's as fun as the S2k was.
hope you’re enjoying it!! just got mine it’s a blast!
The most impressive thing is the Honda resale value.
Both great cars! What I'm impressed more is that drone keeping up with them. 🧐
What an amazing drag race. These are both phenomenal cars. Good entertainment guys 👏
Thank you so much, we're so glad you enjoyed it
Thanks so much! Thanks for watching
AWESOME AWESOME RACE !
WOW 👍✨✨✨✨✨!!!
This was really cool guys!!!
Thanks so much!
What a Great Race! I enjoyed this thoroughly! If only Toyota continued developing it's iconic engines like the 4A-GE which used to rev to 8000rpm back in the day, they would have produced something truly special by now...
Toyota's iconic 4AGE engine is a copy of the British Cosworth BDA engine that had been around for quite some time back then and there's all kinds of modifications possible made to them by now.
I have an older 86 and I love it... I really like the new GR86 too... but I would still choose an s2k over both... that car is a gem
This gave me goosebumps 🥴. Ciro, if you think this GR86 is fun, I can't wait for you guys to test out the new GR Supra Manual when that launches. That is my dream. I know I've been telling you guys this for quite a few times but please do a video review of it when the car launches and comes for test. It will honestly make my heart happy. Absolutely enjoyed this video and Hannes's S2000 is a monster 👻 👽
sad to tell you that you will be dissapointed by the manual GR Surpa, it's a fat Grand Tourer and not a fun sportscar like the 86.
Honda - The power of dreams!
S2000s need to be launched hard due to all its power being in the higher rpms. In the right hands an s2000 is quick. This race had me sitting on the edge of my seat! Loved it!
that was AWESOME!!!! Very impressed by the S2K!
Man loved those races.
That was great, good action!
This is the best drag race I have ever seen! Well done to the Honda!
Don’t forget , double wishbones on all 4 conners , 245 tires in the back that when upgraded came with even more body reinforcement , entire engine set behind the front wheels , proper race type oil pan baffle, cooling fins on the bottom of engine and transmission and transmission oil is being pumped all on the S2000. This is a track car for the street !A lot of money not spent on bells and whistles not even a glove box or adjustable steering column . The car does not have two pipes coming out of one muffler to give the appearance of a of a fast car , but two actual , complete mufflers for power not a poser like the gr-86 .Lastly adjusted for inflation
, the S2000 was a $55,000 car so unlike the 86/ BRZ , the builders were not effected by bean counters and it was built in a special plant until 2005 much by hand by Hondas best techs right next to the NSX . The car could have done better in a drag race . Because of its lower torque peak , it all depends on how much your willing to burn your clutch to get a good lift off . It was not made to be a drag car so lift off not a issue . Excluding more power thru the application of direct injection , what is something modern does it need to do better ? Nothing but the most up to date tires so age is not a factor . The GR -86 is a GT car and the S2000 is a track car two different animals so when you say the S2000 does not have a back seat , I say so what !!!!
More drags like this please
Beautyful to see the S2000 its an fantastic car. Wow the hole Video was so cool👍🏻trank you guys!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Well done Ash! funny to see you pop up on my feed. Lol. Hope you're doing well!
EPIC 3 races dudes!
I was rooting for the S 2000 all the way...
Yall dudes made it fun man no bias no crying just car dudes having a good time with 2 great cars even though I'm a Honda guy. It takes alot to compete with the s2000 it has put muscle cars to shame. It's one of the great pieces of engineering that everybody should respect. Considering what it does with an I 4 engine
We're really glad you enjoyed it
S2000. One of the best sounding engines ever. Needs a k+n induction kit though.
The S2000 is a legend, but you can't deny the new FA24 boxer motor is no joke. They really improved from the 1st gen FRS/86/BRZ.
While I agree the s2000 did phenomenally I just want to mention that the 09 s2000 was sold for AU70k new in Australia, whereas the gr86 and brz zd8 are selling for around 45-50k. It’s really great what Subaru and Toyota are doing at what is most likely a low profit compared to their other models 👍
No idea about US but it is really good value here in Australia
It’s great they’re making NA rear wheel drive cars but they don’t have the quality of the S2000, that’s why they were so expensive and you can still feel it now when you drive one, gearbox, engine and chassis are unreal!
Gorgeous looking S2000.. Wow. 🙌
Well done S2000 - epic car!
Great video gents, keep up the great work... Honda all the way!
We're so glad you enjoyed it!
I owned a first gen BRZ and recently got the S2000 I bought 6 months ago back on the road. It still needs work before it will be back in it's prime but I'm loving it already
Wow
Very interesting
The GR86 is a really good car. Toyota and Subaru have done good with the improvements to this new engine.
my word was this interesting!!! the 86 sounds kinda good at full beans actually S2000 better for sure.
I used to work for an insurance company many years ago and a guy called one Saturday morning, i could tell something was wrong. Naturally, because of my position, i knew it was bad news. Nothing prepared me for what he was calling for. Long story short: A "newly licensed" young female driver in her brand new X3 lost control on the N1 into this guy and he bounced off the central barriers multiple times. The car? Black S2000 with a black hardtop, stock, very well taken care of and 30k on the dash, virtually brand new! he only had it for a month (if i remember correctly) after searching for about a year for one. It was his dream car. The car was written-off with no way to rebuild it. And i had to call him to deliver the news, at that moment it felt like i was delivering news to an army spouse about the sad demise of a close friend killed on the battlefield. That was the most saddest day of my career, i tell the story all the time to my mates. 1 less S2k in South Africa 😟 They walked away from the accident unscathed and yes...he was on a coffee run with some buddies.
wow very impressive clean run.
Never was 14 seconds found to be exciting like it is in this video.
I'm speechless 🌶️🌶️🌶️
Look at the how low the belt line in s2k is compared to gr86. They are both one of better if not best designed front engine/rear wheel drive cars of their time but my god the s2000 has that classic old school British roadster proportion, long dash to axle short front over hang, low belt line classic E type. Due to high belt line GR86 looks more modern but proportional it looks flaw against the s2000
Love them both
Great race guys.
Please show the times at the end of a drag race. Thanks.. Keep these type of races coming.
vtec really helped a lot here since it enabled the s2000 to push higher rpm than gr86.. by the time gr86 reached it's redline s2000 is still nowhere near it's limit.. it really shown at 7:11 when gr86 changed gear and fall behind while s2000 is still running..
Yup, you hit the nail on the head
Traded my 06 S2000 for my Type R. Sometimes I wish I kept the S2000 though. I absolutely loved that car. What a blast to drive and the sound of that screaming F22 at 8k rpm was a symphony of pure magic. Such an Incredible and we'll engineered machine
it's not a K20, it's a F20c or F22c if you had a AP2
@@binskee677whoops, you're right. It was an AP2 so yeah, F22.
@@alexlopez2995 haha actually not, it was a AP1, only the US and (later in 2006 Japan) got the AP2. Rest of the world was able to keep the AP1 with a facelift.
The Honda s2000 is what happens when a big car company is in its racing engineering prime🔥
3:32 Go!
Biggest example of driver mod for the s2000 I remember the first time driving my s2000 vs 6 years of ownership 😜
S2000 such a special car. Needs a super charger to take it to 250kw. Then she screams and flies!