Toe Foo and Schnitz vs NEW Golf GTI and Toyota GR86 // DRAG & ROLL RACE
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
- Toe Foo and Schnitz are back for a drag race alongside their newer offspring - the 2023 Volkswagen Golf GTI ($35,083 starting in Canada, $31,625 in the US) and the 2023 Toyota GR86 ($34,700 starting in Canada, $29,495 in the US). After the road trip, the cars needed a few repairs. But with everything in working order, and a desert drag race in the bag, Toe Foo and Schnitz are ready to prove who’s faster on the Throttle House drag strip. The new generation of these two classics are in for a tight run as well! What will happen? Things definitely don’t go as planned for this drag race. We hope you enjoy the episode. Subscribe!
Huge thank you to Clarkson Fine Cars for taking care of Toe Foo and Schnitz
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Sound: Harrison Dickson and Karston Chong
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Schnitz was just happy to be there. We love you, Schnitz
Just happy to be involved, love it
In Schnitz we trust 🙏
No we don't. Not at all. Shitbox
Long live the Schnitz.
Awww. 😀
James finding out that he had ordered 'something japanese" written on the side of Toe Foo will never cease to end me. 😂😂😂
What time?
@@Kingofdestruction2019 it was in their roadtrip series
@@Kingofdestruction2019 episode 1 of the roadtrip.
It’s an obvious joke he clearly knew about.
@@Re_RAMEpisode 1 of Roadtrip is cool imo.
GR86 actually looks big in this
Glad it is
So does the GTI
M6
@@NathanaelNausedso did the Lancer Evo 8 and X.
@@tyhyhhseems like so did the Viper GTS 1999.
Thank you Greg, for everything you’ve contributed to this channel. I’m currently learning just how much work production is so I’m thankful for your work in making Throttle House so good. I hope all your effort is recognized.
This comment needs more attention. Thank you so much Greg!! Every moment you had on camera and all the work behind the scenes really shows! Thank for you helping make what is one of the best RUclips channels ever. All the best on your future!
I can't believe the gr86 beat the new golf😅
I was also surprised
Yeah I'm shocked more people are talking about this. I know it's lighter, but the significantly lower torque and slightly lower HP had me thinking it would lost to the gti at least in the roll.
@@TheShizzle622 maybe the gearing helps too, it seemed like the GTI was catching up at the end.
I can’t speak on new generation golf’s but in my experience Volkswagens have always launched very sluggish not sure why (coming from someone who’s owned a lot of them)
Most likely the manual, which is kind of shit to launch. The DSG is pretty care-free to launch, if you discount some wheel-hop 😅
This is my favorite channel on youtube. I feel like I'm there hanging out with the boys driving some fun cars. Thanks Thomas & James!!
Mighty car mods is still king, but you guys are doing some great things. This series has been really good.
As a GR86 owner, it's nice to see the thing not get obliterated by every other car in a drag race
Only thing that ever wants to race me is V6 Camaros and Mustangs or Veloster Turbos for some reason. I've won all of them but still lol.
unfortunately, that mk8 gti so so much faster than the gr86. i was surprised it was even having trouble putting the power down during the roll as well
@@fastec5I really doubt your GR86 beat any Camaro or mustang. Even base models come with 300+ hp now.
@@angelgjr1999 weight and gearing are big factors, the 86 is geared super aggressive. And V6 Camaros and Mustangs aren't fast lol
@@fastec5 Your acting like American cars can’t be modded. I beat a Supra before.
These guys deserve 10m subs. In my opinion they are the only guys to find the chemistry the big 3 have. And they didnt have to try and copy them
Thomas and James, you guys are amazing and thank you for brightening all our days up..... Thanks to you two, leased a Mk8 Gti, traded and now a proud owner of a '23 20th anniversary Golf R.... Thank you....
I Schnitzed when i saw title for this video
You won today sir
Then, this makes AC Schnizter a....
.....aaaaaa.... Nevermind.
gesundheit
Bless you.
Comment of month!!! 😂❤
Also, same.
I once owned an identical silver GTI. It was, without a doubt, the most fun car I have ever owned.
Same haha
Mine was a 1981 Scirocco S in Mars Red with a full GTI drivetrain swap. Miss it to this day
Until you drove a fun car, right?
Had a 85 Silver GTI. Loved driving the twisty hills in sunny San Diego. Then got transferred to sunny Vancouver, BC and learned how to not slide off roads. Then moved to Huntsville, AL and found a mechanic that turned it into a slot car. Fun car.
Mine was black, and despite only 90hp, I managed to get lots of speeding tickets!
Was the MR2 the most fun, or the most terrifying? Because it clearly gave James a straight shot of adrenaline 🏎️💨
I love the "aw snap" licence plate as thats what you hear everyone else say at stop lights.
The must fun endeed . . . And the fastest lol
The MR2 sounds like an amazing sounding race car that’s gargling.
The AE86 was around when I had a 200SX Nissan the AE86 was always a fun little car and I preferred the styling.
"...which means they have decals on the side that make them lightning fast."
~James, June 2023.
James's pure astonishment at 8:43 was a good laugh LOL
Well if Toefuu can have a modern engine then just swap a 1.8T 20v into Schnitz, I did that in my Mk1 Scirocco and it was a completely different car afterwards. 80-140 km/h was done in about 5 seconds in 3'rd gear. The early 1.8T 20 fits directly onto the Rabbit gearbox so its quite an easy swap.
The 2.0 16v ABF from the mk3 is also magic in a mk1
It's funny how at 3:29 you can see James (very passionately) recording his half of the video in the background
I've seen that in a few videos, funny
I have a mk4 golf gti and I love it so much it may not be the fastest on the line but it is one of the most fun car ever
I’m watching Throttle House. He’s Thomas. AND HE’S JAMES
In this monumental race between Toyota's and VW's compact sport legends, Honda somehow got the win. 🏆
As soon as I heard K20 mr2. I knew it would beat everything in that line up. The K20/k24 doesn't get swapped in to almost anything without a reason, and that reason is that the K series engine is probably the best 4 banger engine of the last 2 decades.
Thank you Thomas for opening up emotionally for me 3:00 I got emotional hearing it from you. You and James have now reached the fans in a emotional way. That connects us all
what a nerd
They started the race between two Volkswagens a Toyota with a Subaru engine in a Toyota with another Toyota Engine, but at the end the winner was a Honda!!!! I love those second gen MR2, I also love the k series engine (I've currently got a K20Z3)! I would give anything in the world to drive a rear-wheel drive mid-engined Toyota powered by a K24!!!
That GTI is hands-down the drivers car amongst the group, seconded by the GTS.
Your GTI is still legend, even with those incorrect tires albeit winter tires, and you know this.
I have heard of an overhead cam but I've never seen an overhead shifter.
When are you guys going to have a video on the new Type S? I am very curious to hear what you think of it!
That was a fun twist! And, I couldn't help but laugh when you didn't bother to freeze the GTI on the finish line.
Being a US citizen, and watching this video at 2:30pm on the 23 of July, sorry I couldn't make the car meet, looks like it would have been fun.
“How did it get through the canyons?” It kind of didn’t lol.
I'm in love with your Mk1 GTi. I had one as my first car. I miss it to this day 30 years and 6 VW's later. Great choice and excellent color.
Love all the content guys! When available I'd love to see a comparison of the new midsized trucks, Colorado, Tacoma, Ranger. Here's hoping you can get your grubby little hands on 'em
schnitz has an automatic sun visor deployer during launch ,bcoz of immense power the car launches into horizon ,and this feature helps driver to c better and not distracted from sun rays 😂😂😂
Wtf where’s the Integra video 😂
Should drive! Q50 RedSport ! And Q60 red-sport Infiniti I want to see the track time. Because you guys did the TLX. Type S
Schnizt and Giggles my favorite car duo😂👊
There are so many more episodes for them, come to South Africa and do a 4x4 trip through Namibia. Thomas and James - you got this
James didn't know how to work a steering column/ ignition lock release button. Damn kid.
Never know what to expect from you guys, but damn, it's always entertaining!
This is not a diss….love your videos! Great work!
Comparing these two OG vehicles to their modern counterpart is honest proof that we are living in a fabulous age for driving enthusiasts, regardless of the looming EV takeover. If the owners of those OG vehicles at that time (80’s) were to experience the modern driving dynamics of the current generation of these vehicles they wouldn’t be bitching about how the newest iteration are such a let down, (i.e.,Acura Integra) and car companies are just profiting from name recognition. Anyhow, true driving enthusiast, unless they drive on a racetrack every day, just needs to drive a version of any car with a manual transmission.
As a owner of a light weight 80's fwd hatchback with evo Lancer 4g63t swap I can relate to his grin from ear to ear they are effortless to get up to highway speeds and make modern hatchbacks look slow with their power to weight ratio.
I cannot believe no one knew about the button for key removal.
I had a first generation MR2 in 1998 as my first car. Even then you could start the thing with a screwdriver.
I don't know why, but I revisit the original MR2 intro every once in a while. Never fails to give me a breathy little chuckle when James says "the "T" stands for toes".
This is awesome! Tofu is the coolest! Even though it’s a complete pile. I wanna save it!
I love a Wednesday video! It's too bad I have to wait until Thursday to see the Rabbit cross the line. 😏
The chemistry between the two of you is amazing. Thank you for these videos.
More than once I've said "that's the wrong one for this rear end" 7:32. I Schnitz you not!
Of course Toyota announces a GR86 Trueno edition the day after this video gets posted 😂
stock mk8 gti owner here. I was literally on the highway yesterday and a new GR86 wanted to play. He took off and than i did. The difference is small but i did pull away. about 2 car length's when i hit the limiter. i started a car length behind going about 50. But the difference is not huge like i said but i clearly had more top end. When you have cars that are not far off in performance it comes more down to driver skill, tires, road, temp, fuel, driver weight ext. so many variables that can make it lean one way or the other. I'm only 140 pounds which may have helped. but i did have 80 -100 pounds of stuff in the back. I am quite impressed with the top end of the gti stock. I think the power that comes in between 20 and 50 mph could be better. I don't really get that push until past 50. digs forget about it lol
Also transmission...a auto gr86 is slow since it's just a slushbox not a DCT...A auto gr86 vs a manual gti the gti wins a manual gr86 vs a dsg gti the dsg gti is gonna win...a gr86 manual vs a gti manual🫣 who knows but I seen a gr86 go neck and neck with a sti so I think a manual gr86 might edge out a manual gti but I do agree with what you said.
I wished you used a 3sgte mr2 like mine still fun to see it
GR86 seriously impressive in this up against the K24 MR2
depends what has been done to the k24, I do not think it has much more than headers.
Im genuinely so impressed at that BRZ. I thought the GTI would have given it a bus length of distance.
that k24 babyyy! I love my 9th gen Si :)
Gen II MR2s are still some of the coolest cars to ever exist.
Just here to say I want to see you guys on the smoking tire podcast again. (Or any other form of podcast)
Toe Foo has a magnificent intake sound. And then the MR-2...
So funny it broke. That GTI has done well. I don't remember them more reliable back in the 80's compared to the Japanese rivals. I do remember a bunch of people having them.
If this video was made by any other channel I wouldn't have clicked on it. Always entertaining to watch your productions.
I think VW gave up with the GTI and so did the customers you never see them on the road anymore. Boring!.
VW’s future ID3 even more boring such a shame,
The kill switch bit killed me😂😂 AW11’s had the same thing and I remember my first time thinking I broke the fkn ignition
GR86 AE and AE86 in the same video?! What is not to like. I'm surprised the GR86 won tho!
Just picked up a 87 BMW 325is. I get get it, it's a sum way great than it's parts.
Whenever I see the GR86 and Corolla GTS/Trueno/Levin together, the more I don’t see the similarities between the cars.
Other then name and layout the GR86 looks like it could be the Celica.
What we learned here?
NEVER BUY A MODERN GTI! Go for the Gold R or get another car!
Aw Snap....it's Toe Foo and Schnitz!
Have a mk7.5 gti and had a mk6 and I would love to own a mk1 just on the old school looks and all the new one is gone up in price 😢
as always, you guys make the best then and now videos
ive said it forever, modified cars are trash. all they do is break. if youre gonna mod do it with a very light touch or have enough money to pay someone to do it right.
Love seeing my old ae86 in these videos
Im a Honda guy but that GR86 is really starting to grow on me. Honda should have joined the Subaru/Toyota guys to subsidize a Honda Prelude variant.
MR2 reving: subtitles "music".
Damn right.
For some reason your videos werent showing up in my feed, but im back now.
I'm so glad the MR2 is here even though it is bastardized with honda engine lol
It's like the grandfather taking the grandchildren out for a stroll
We need a quick review of the upgraded mr2!
Best car there, Rabbit/Golf GTi. Character and class
Did not see the GTi losing to the gr86, kind of impressive from the gr86!
They are fine as long as you don't turn right, that's when the BRZ/86 motors grenade themselves.
GR86 actually won against VWGTI that was a surprise
The new GTI needed a driver mod lmao. It was cool that they were so close but I know for a fact that a GTI is faster from a roll, even moreso with the DSG
It should have been faster in everything so either something is wrong with the car or with the driver
MK1 and Toyota GR86 great cars ! Always love it old cars. Old cars are with character, unique design. No need more power, just drive and enjoy.
Is anyone else watching this thinking how damn fast Toe Foo is for an old car,!!
That MR2 though! Now that is a fucking dope car.
You guys Foo-kin rock! Totally the Schnitz!
The car meet looks amazing! Cheers from North Carolina in the US. You all are awesome!
I guess it doesn't go without saying that, the more traction you have, the more stress thats put on your diff. I.E the more Traction and the more Power u load up on a diff, the higher probability it will fail. Never skimp , always buy the best OEM or Aftermarket Diff for a car that isn't stock.
Why and how did the modern GTI lose the roll race to the GR86 ?!
Whomever was driving the MK8 GTI had some slow reaction times on the drag races. GR86 driver had amazing reactions.
Awesome video as always guys. Future video suggestion…how about an outgoing S550 mustang drag race and track battle?? All outgoing S550 mustang iterations showdown!! Please and thanks🙏🏻
Dang didn't think the GR86 was that fast or the GTI was that slow?? lol
Same hp/ less weight /more grip . What's wrong?
@@Naah732Way more torque, not even close there.
@@Naah732 GTI has 13 more HP, 89 more torque, both FWD. Not sure why you think the GR86 has more grip??
@@ctk4949 maybe because the GR86 is RWD??
idea for the next drag race old variants around 2008-1010 of Mitsu Lancer (152hp 2.0 diesel with Rockfoarfd inside) and Subaru 150hp vs stock 2 from today around same price with inflation
Despite the gr86 having a lesser horsepower and torque it's still manages to put it's power down better than that golf, imagine you tune that car to 700hp with that kind of light weight that thing will be 1/4 mile monster
“AI, please make me a short movie about the little mermaid getting legs and then becoming a JDM racer”
As much as James smiled from driving the MR2, I smiled that much when you told us about the differential.
You should do a series where you VR6 swap Schnitz
edit: why in the world would you k swap an mr2? The 3sgte they came with is a better motor in literally every way. If toyota took out the 2J and put a 3sgte in the time attack supra, I think it's safe to say it's pretty good.
The K series is a better engine in every aspect, what are you talking about? It's a newer engine with better tech. The fastest MR2's in the world are K swapped. Far more parts and support as well as being cheaper. However I agree with the VR6 idea, I love those things. Lots of character in the Jetta I drove
Well that’s a refreshing change to see an 86 win a drag race of all things for a change. 10 years ago that was not the case, 😂 that new engines got a little grunt to it now. Lol
If I didnt buy a manual Golf as my first car, my life would probably be extremely different. Whippin a manual Golf R now 16 years later!
I feel the Rabbit GTI is the moral victor here. Oldest and most reliable. :)
Yes the sounds of a high revving honda engine.. it's beautiful
Some thing isn't right with Schnitz, it should be a lot faster. I had the carb version of that engine in an Audi 80 and it was rapid. it would do 60mph in 2nd, 90mph in 3rd and spin through the gears on a dry surface.