6 Reasons You SHOULDN'T Buy a GR86
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- Опубликовано: 2 июн 2024
- I've had the 2022 Toyota GR86 for several months now and have been incredibly happy with my choice. That being said, this car isn't for everyone. Whether or not it's the right choice for you will depend on your use case and personal preferences. Here are 6 reasons you shouldn't buy a Toyota GR86 or Subaru BRZ.
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2022 Toyota GR86
MSRP: $27,700
Engine: 2.4L 4-cylinder
Transmission: 6-speed manual
Horsepower: 228hp @ 7,000 rpm
Torque: 184 lb-ft @ 3,700 rpm
Curb weight: 2,811 lbs
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00:00 Introduction
00:15 - Straight Line Performance
01:52 - Space & Practicality
02:51 - Track Time Bragging Rights
04:58 - Reliability
05:57 - You Want Raw
07:13 - You Need Luxury
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It’s not always about the speed 😏 only a few people understand this.
That's why I loved my 04 sti so much.
EV drivers for example just don't get it. No problem with that, but they're usually kind of toxic about it.
My 85 mr2 with around 112hp was more fun to drive on the back roads than my 19 Zl1 1le. It's not always about horsepower.
@You Tube fun isn't about acceleration only. People who say this statement is false only say so because they can only drive straight lines...
Yes. The ones that can't afford a more expensive car 😂
This video sells this car better than most videos recommending it.
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16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
LOL yea i got confused
It has 2 doors, it is manual, it is simple, with modern amenities, it is a boxer engine, in other parts of the world it comes with the spare wheel as well as the exterior ones, it is relatively small, it has no electrification, it is anti-GoldDigger.
Basically it is the perfect vehicle.
...like an RX-8 (similar anti-gold digger properties).
what does anti-golddigger mean
@@bc9554 It means that the only kind of woman who will think it's a good idea to have that vehicle is someone who knows about vehicles.
For someone interested .... it's a Toyota.... With that value you could buy a used Mercedes, Audi, BMW, or Cadillac, which does appeal to interested girls, or flashy used vehicles like a Camaro or Mustang but with 4 cylinders.
As a conclusion, with this vehicle you will avoid without a doubt an interested woman.
@@faygox955 Women do not care that much about the car you drive. Calling Ecoboost Camaros and Mustangs "flashy" is ridiculous. Everyone knows those cars are dirt cheap. A specked out RAV 4 costs more.
@@faygox955yea girl don’t pay attention to cars enough to look at a frs and think it’s a Toyota.most people just think it looks nice .if anything it leaves a good impression on people because it looks fancy incomparison to a Corolla
I consistently get under 6 seconds for 0-60. That’s pretty good for a 30K car and doesn’t feel slow to me especially since I have another car that can do 0-60 in the low 4s
what altitude do you live in? I’m about 4700’ above sea level and I get 6.2 on hot pavement.
@@dvybby about 2300’ above sea level
Here’s the thing though. In Europe it isn’t 30.000$, in Europe it’s 40.000€, which is more like 43.000$. At this price point, you can get better cars than this. If it was a 30.000€ car I would love to buy one, but it isn’t
@@Nishan113 for sure. For example in canada, the msrp for the prem MT model at 36k CAD is basically about 30k USD. My 2018 base was 21k USD in 2018 when i got it
@@Nishan113 those cars at 40,000 are not in the same category as a gr86. You can’t get a new 2800 pound sports car for under 40k besides a Miata. The next step above a gr86 is a Porsche Cayman which is double the price.
I purchased a 2023 GR86 premium model. Couldn’t disagree more with this assessment video. I’ve driven BMW’s and Lexus. I wanted a compliment sports car to offset my Mercedes GLE 450. I could drive this GR86 everyday. Plenty of power for for streets. Handling is amazing. Interior panel and functions are simple, easy to use and perform perfectly. This car is a blast to drive. Find me a better bang for your buck. You won’t. You want a fun, cool sports car that doesn’t cost a fortune then this is it.
After driving some pretty dope cars through this RUclips channel (see my JCDI linked in description) I appreciate this car MORE not less. It’s just that good
I'm saving up ill join the club soon
Dude they really aren't selling anymore GR86 here in Spain, I'm so sad, Europe is really full of boring people when driving, they don't like fun sports cars, like, man. I won't buy a GR86 for +86K€ just for people reselling the vehicle :c
True but the cachet is not there and many do at least subconsciously care about that. Only car people know how good this car is...
@@fatesenvy me too in a few years, i hope
All you're saying is making me even more sure this is the car for me. 👍I just hope that I can actually find one in about a year, when it would make financial sense in my case...
dude i have a brz with the catback, header, coilever, small wing, wheels, race clutch and much more... and i can say the car is 100% worth it i love it so much
Same
A full year into BRZ ownership and a lot of autocross runs have given me zero reason to sell. I’ve had some moments where I wondered but hands down this is the best all around enthusiast car I’ve owned. It has shown me so much about myself as a driver. I could see also trying an old MR2 or Cayman to get mid engine experience, or a Miata if I lived somewhere a convertible made sense.
Love this! Through this channel I've been fortunate to drive many amazing cars (see the JCDI in the description) and it's actually made me appreciate the GR86/BRZ twins even MORE because what they deliver at the price point is insane.
@@jubbalandcars Hi Kevin, I watched the video thoroughly and I have to apologize,I totally misunderstood, my bad, I feel stupid. Keep up the good work. Sorry, Lukas😔
If you’ve autocrossed you’ve voided your warranty… and flat motor means you’ve been starving that motor of oil every turn you take… probsbly about to blow
@@thejardz4787 and you know this how?
@@thejardz4787 they starve for oil out of the factory, 2k miles and the oil pickup tube full of rtv and bearing material in the oil pan, almost all of them are this way.
Bought my first car, a 2016 FRS and I have zero regrets. I've been daily driving it for half a year and I still love it to death.
Very different from the new models
Love to hear it! I loved my 2013 FRS when I had it!
Same here 🙏
How’s the reliability been? N how many miles?
Whats about oil pressure? Issue is it solved in it
Fuel economy. For a small, light, sleek, low displacement car I'd expect at least 30 mpg on the highway.
Yup that's my problem Supra gets better
Great point
@@SunSunSunn straight driving with no traffic in the midwest prob attributed to that
the car takes premium gas on top of that!
I talked to guy a who owns a Supra and said he got avg 17 mpg😐. Supra not better
So great to see a fellow doc who's also a gear head and with awesome productions. Keep it up man!
I stumbled upon your page but I'm really enjoying the content. It's logical, descriptive and just overall good content. I don't know if you focus on more than just this car but I'm going to check you out. Keep it up man.
Thanks so much Jason!
Honestly the 86/BRZ is fine for what it is. My friend has a GR86 and he’s been loving it. Sure I can outrun him with my Model 3 but it doesn’t matter. As for space, I drove a 135i for a while, never had issues. As long as you have a different car for family use, any coupe will work perfectly.
You really got to adjust your standards accordingly to price. For price, the 86 is a great value. Sure you can’t outrun a Model 3 or have 135i interior but those things won’t matter when you are having fun and are paying about half the price. I can see why my friend likes it so much.
I was kind of expecting this to be cheap click bait, but this video is actually informative and real.
bro I'm a med student who just got a z and just stumbled on this, glad to see you making videos with another community 😎
Great video man!
I’m not buying this car because of speed.. I’m buying this car for driving experience, uniqueness, ownership, reliability, and overall beauty. If I wanted a fast car, I won’t look here.
Nice insight!!
Bought my BRZ back in 2013 and still have it today. I still smile when I drive on an empty winding road
been thinking about getting an 86/FRS for a bit now. have been dailying an old honda and all the things you listed are still somehow upgrades from my current car
I drive a 2023 zl1 1le….just bought a 2024 trueno for my kid….i fell in love with it. The zl1 is work, the gr86 is just fun.
Great video!
what's your advice on being able to warm up the car on a track day? 1 lap ? 2 lap? Considering that some cars takes like 15 min to even get the oil temp up (when daily driving). The transmission , tires, Driver, also needs to warm up , etc. BTW, I know some nice roads to hit if you don't know about them. Its great places to practice low speed foot work. I call it the Touge of Summerlin.
At least 1-2 warmup laps when you go out is key. On all components. Including brakes which will otherwise warp. Ask me how I know.
Let’s hear about the togue of Summerlin
@@jubbalandcars there are roads that connect from downtown summerlin to bishop Gorman that has elevation changes, roundabouts, and straights. Very fun.
You surprisingly made me want the car more lol
hell yeah i love this thing
@@jubbalandcars huh??
dont care im buying it
Deadass, going to test drive tomorrow
All I'm hearing is that the car is a great daily driver and that is enough for me because I am looking for a new RWD manual, if I was looking for a track car I would most likely choose older cars that I'm less scared to push.
It’s great as a daily and track weapon
I'm giving up my veloster for this car. Can't wait. I'll have to get used to the rear wheel drive. Fishtailed a little between 1st and 2nd on my test drive lol. First thing I'm doing is going to a large church parking lot!
I’m on the fence with this car. I’m definitely an enthusiast, ever since I bought my 240sx in 2000 and did the SR swap and the whole 9. I almost want to chase that experience, lightweight, rwd, manual, etc. I’m just hoping it doesn’t feel too slow, but I have hopes it won’t. I’m currently in a 335i w upgraded suspension, fbo, tuned, xhp stage 3. I love driving it so much, to the point where I come up with places to go and make excuses to drive it. It’s getting up there in miles though and it’s slowly transitioning to my fun weekend car. My other vehicle is older, always overheating, and I need a good commute car. Its 30 min fun twisty backroads and 30 min interstate. So I was gonna get like a civic or corolla, but was thinking the gr86 could fill that roll AND keep the fun in my commute.
Did you end up buying it in stuck between this and a 370z I love mountains live in ga have E36 m3 that I’m going to big turbo as my insane interstate demon but want a fun coupe to daily for the twisties
I haven't lived there in 13 years, but I think I recognize a whole bunch of spots in this video. Is this in Northwest Las Vegas? If I'm wrong, apologies. But thanks for giving me some nostalgia for a few minutes there! Thanks for a great video. I appreciate the information in this video, my dude! I've never owned a rear wheel drive car and I was looking at the GR86 Premium and the NIssan Z (I guess I should probably put the Supra up against the Z. Price isn't an issue) I guess I won't truly know until I go drive the damn things. Great video essay about the ToyNOta lol Subbed - leifo
my cousin bought the 23 model and had the boys install a turbo kit. she sits at about 230kw and god damn that thing is a track weapon now. a turbo version does all the things and is super happy doing it. ok, it cost a tad to install the turbo and he probably needs to take it back to the shop for a heavier clutch but he couldn't be happier.
Hey man, new to your channel! What oil would you recommend for this vehicle other than the stock brand one? Is there anything significantly better that you would recommend?
Depends on your use case. I personally run 5W30 Motul 8100 since I do track days. Used that for years on my FRS as well without issues
I now use Pennzoil Ultra Platinum 5w30
Hi, I’m from Taiwan. Really love ur videos n ur comments. I am going to get a GR86 too, on the waiting list hope to get it this spring. I am wondering what have you upgraded ur GR86?
I have just added camber bolts and new wheels and tires (video coming out soon). Prior I only had oil cooler, brake pad, fluids, ducktail spoiler
I’m the idiot who traded down from Guilia Ti with a lot more speed, comfort & ‘room’. I couldn’t be happier finally a sub 3k lbs rwd that I don’t tap my fingers waiting to get to speed.
What really get a laugh is 3x’s I’ve been told groceries won’t fit. Didn’t even use passenger seat.
If you don’t have kids and don’t need a car that breaks speed limit in 4 sec then get this car.
If anything happens to my BRZ I’m getting another
I have 2 kids and want to get one lol. We only use her car for transporting the kids anyway.
The last point, You Need Luxury, really hit me hard and that is coming from an owner of Mazda 3 2022.
It may not be German, but this interior spoiled me so much that is the only reason why it is holding me back, along with the road/wind noise (which I can understand).
I still have 4 years to think whether to grab a Mazda Miata or Toyota GR86.
Great video!
I own a pretty beat up 2014 frs and sat in a GR86 at the NY auto show and it sold me on the idea of getting one of these to daily drive so I can use the frs as a project car to lift and take on dirt roads
Well put.
Like the Nissan Z, It's the perfect modding platform for (relatively) cheap. Solid chassis, simple setup, easy to swap parts in and out
I came from a scatpack challenger to a 86. I do NOT regret it, 86 is terrifying on the back roads. The scat was boring in about a month.
really ? i’m actually interested because i was debating on if i should get a camaro or an 86. i LOVE the thrill of going fast , that’s my thing, but where i live my roads have a lot of turns , just from experience which one would you recommend?
Your legit way under subscribed
Keep throwing content at us your legit
Debating upgrading from an 05 RSX Type S I have in great shape (OEM+), but waiting on further developments and reliability of the platform...
I had a 2013 frs and was daily driving it as well as canyon runs and road-trips, the car never had any maintenance issues whatsoever. However, just 10k miles after the recall for the valve springs my engine starved of oil and I spun a bearing and blew a hole in the short block. 126k miles on the car was very impressive nonetheless. Car is now gone but I’m looking at a 2015 rs1, the new gens are hideous to me and the frs was and is the best looking version of all 3 imo
You convinced me. I’m leasing one.
yoo i'd recognize that street light anywhere (honestly idk why but its memorable) you live in the las vegas area me too!! its at 0:47
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@@jubbalandcars i may have seen your car b4 but not all to sure i drive a 22 brz bc im a subi bro
Bought my FRS in 2013. Autocrossed it since 2014. Won a regional championship with it, daily drive it in yhe winter and brought my kids to daycar and school in it for 7 years. All I had in it was an air filter, cat back and crash bolts. Had to change the sway bar bushings... yeah it was a damn f'n great car.
Did the mods devalue the car? I want to get an 86 and would like to mod it, but I’m not sure how I will work that out with the valuation
@@lucascasey8869 it holds the value. It's all simple and cheap mods that keeps it looking stock while helping a bit with performance.
@@Kevin.Savoie thank you very much
How do you take kids to daycare in this? Where do you put carseat?
@@immunity4soulthe 2 back seats. A rear facing seat will only fit the passenger side with the front seat pushed forward. But forward facings are fine until they hit a certain height. Lets just say we didn't take family trips in it.
Been on the edge about getting this car. I’m just looking for a fun daily driver
Jubbal & Cars- I have a first grn BRZ and a brother of mine has a 2015 FRS, great cars. You didn't have any issues with the valve springs on your 2013 FRS?
No got the recall done and tracked it many times over the course or 35k+ miles after the recall. No issues
I still wont stop loving this car. I want one and GT86 too just for the heck of it
I got a 2023 brz and I am curious, how did you get carplay to work if you have your phone plugged in through the glovebox like mine?
all subarus are just really really fun after 10k 15k in engine mods , i love subaru i have a STI but yeah they are amazing stock and handle cars but yeah need some money for feel that feeling that make u go more far and far..
Which oil is better for laps and high temperatures 0-20 or 5-30?
I'd love a GR86 but soooo expensive ! Hopefully they come down in a couple years time. Love the look and the entire history of it.
Try a Porsche, maybe.
@@boxoffisayeah cause Porsches are super affordable
Expensive? It's the cheapest new sports car you can buy.
@@anywaays6992 Used, they can be in the same ballpark as the new GR86.
Can you do a video on how you hard wired the radar detector?
I hired a guy
do you use 5w-30 all the time or do you change back to 0W-20 in between track days?
All the time
I had three big dogs until they passed but I took the passenger seat out and they all three sat in a row where the second seat went 😅. Also a twin hitch and 15 foot cannoe with trolling motor towed behind ❤
well, a great dane fits in the back seat of a wrx and he was perfectly fine despite touching both doors. he adjusted as necessary and enjoyed the drive...
I bet that car stunk like shit
@Taylor-dt2wd maybe if I were a dirty mother fucker the pits get baths every 2 weeks and the husky goes to petsmart to get groomed. Not every one's a dirty mf
My GR86 is finally arriving next week. Ordered it in March '22, but it's worth the wait.
I already talked to a lot of people who just don't get the point of the car, especially here in Germany where top speed matters to quite a lot of people.
My Daily is a '09 Mercedes E 320 CDI estate, which is the perfect contrast. Fast on the Autobahn, great on fuel, comfortable and very practical. That's great for everyday driving, but fun? No. And that's where the GR86 is pretty much unbeatable for the price.
I drove an MR2 Spyder as my home health car 100-150 miles/day for 10 years. If ya gotta drive you might as well have fun. I miss it, I need to take a closer look at the 86.
My favorite car I’ve personally ever owned was a 2010 Lexus IS250 Convertible. 206 horsepower dragging a 3800 (3950 with me in it) pound dead horse down the road. I liked it though! The word I always thought of to describe the driving was "planted". This was a car that could take a turn on a highway at 110 without sliding… it was insane! It took a few business days to get to 110, but with the top down who cares! Going to this from an 07 Acura MDX, the near completely eliminated risk of a roll over was also quite nice 😂
Really liked the video and agree for the most part. I will say that I've seen a lot of posts calling this car everything from "slow" to "very slow", and that's just not true.
The car is NOT fast. That's true. Buuuut it's not any variation of slow either lol. It's quick. Still has an athletic like acceleration (even the auto, I know sinful).
My point is, I think most people think this car has the acceleration of a commuter car in a sports car like shell. That's not true. It's still faster than most cars on the road lol
My son bought a 2022 6 speed manual premium a week ago and as someone that’s owned camaro’s and driven alot of rear drive sports cars I gotta say I was shocked at how good it is when I gave it the beans.
I see you were driving in Vegas. After crashing my 2019 370 Nismo with only 2,600 miles, I’ve decided to get a BRZ or 86. Still don’t know which to get. But there are no Black 2023 Brz’s in Vegas
As an owner of one, don't listen to this man. 0-60 in 5 seconds. So much fun. Easy drifting and great on curves. The downside is that the suspension is rough. I'd upgrade that and exhaust. Otherwise this car is great if a V8 is too much for you. ALSO SIDE NOTE... HKS makes a supercharger 😉 makes hp go up to 320-350 horses😩
iv had a 2022 gr86 for a year and i love it 😂
@@Julianklaus he didnt say he got rid of it?
All of these reasons are why I ordered a GR86 to go along with my C8. Best of both worlds.
Great 2 car solution
@@jubbalandcars yes sir, I miss my S2k a lot so this is the next best thing. Still debating if I should snag the base coming to my dealer next month or hold off for a premium allotment.
New sub
Good review. I'm looking at a BRZ as my GLI is too sensor happy, too much tech, too much numbness for the luxury feel, too big, not fun enough, and insanely expensive and time consuming to upgrade - eg coilovers isn't just undo top hat, bolts from knuckle and install. The GLI needs shroud removed over top hat, either axle nut or drive axle housing removed to remove the strut, and a dcc canceling system. Oh and I need a set of triple square tools $$$. Oh I long for my old Honda em1 - so beautiful to work on.
A lot of people always ask why didnt you get [insert car here]
I just want a cool, fun car.
If you want to buy a reliable sports car in a price range I don't think you can beat this. If you don't want to go big bucks then you have plenty of choices.
I have the first gen with 4X 255 width 200TW tires, high capacity suspension, clutch pack LSD, many chassis geometry tweaks (including anti geometries), locked steering rack, small weight reductions and more. It is very fast at my local track, much faster than OEM Veloster N, 370Z, GR86, Tesla model S, WRX, etc, it pulls very high g-forces, 1.6g+ with spikes above 2gs, the center of gravity is very low. The biggest weakness was the OEM Torsen differential, it is unbelievably bad at the limit. Only now I feel like adding power, before that it would have make the weaknesses even worst. Great car if you plan on using aftermarket components, it feels so good now.
Did you rebuild the factory diff with the clutch type LSD or do an entirely different rear? I had a torsen in my camaro factory and the clutch type I replaced it with was way better.
@@MeltingRubberZ28 Factory diff casing with a drop in clutch pack LSD unit. Yea, It's a must have on any sports car that is going to be thrown around.
@@Iseenoobpeoples seems like a fun car. Kinda want one now
Yeah, it did take a lot of work/tuning to make it behave with OEM power, big tires/alignment, thick oil, LSD will take away power, it is left behind on hills and straits, the car is very impressive on corner/brake/anything in it's way now lol, I bought a blown engine for 350$ to rebuild with lower compression, I went with a used FBM turbo kit, not yet installed, it will match a 911 one day :D
The rtv issue still haunts me tho:/ have had mine for a year now and no problem at all some glitches on turning signals but all and all it’s super fun but that rtv issue is always in the back of my head which is why I don’t like pushing the car too hard
Don’t worry about it, just check ur oil dipstick every month
@@adanshehzad2933 What does checking the oil have to with the pickup collecting rtv chunks ??
I don’t think pushing your car/not pushing it would make a difference w the rtv issue
@@walkemdown4127 it does sadly some guy tracked it for 2 days and had massive rtv in his oil pan and he only had 10k on his car
Isn't it super simple to fix? Drop the pan, clean the crap out of the pickup tube, put pan back on with new sealer. What part am I missing?
Get yourself an old reer engined '66 Corvair Corsa all Independent suspension and have yourself some real fun with some over-steer. Better yet find one with the Fitch suspension upgrades and have some real fun. No power steering. Feel everything. :)
Vegas huh? I live here too😂 I can tell by the roads lol
I have an opportunity to get a brand new 10th anniversary edition GR86.
I have a 2017 Camaro 1lt right now and am heavily debating if I want the 86. I tried it and liked it but only got 20 minutes behind the wheel. What’s your thought in that switch?
Did u end up getting it?
@@fearurdemise8835 I passed. Which I prefer now because they announced the Trueno edition is coming out in a few months.
That said, having test drove it, it’s definitely a weaker rear wheel drive experience and you feel it, but the driving experience is more smooth. I just wish you could get stock leather seats
6:36 honestly surprised with this bit about the steering, when I heard the GR Corolla was going to have electric steering I was expecting it to be worse than the GR 86. I've only driven the GR Corolla, so I thought the GR 86 would have just as heavy steering with more feedback.
The car I drove before was an aw11 mr2, and it had completely unassisted steering, and honestly going from it to the GRC was surprisingly not a big jump, the GRC has relatively heavy steering, but not enough to strain my arms as sometimes has happened with low speeds on my AW11.
Steering weight is one aspect but I’d argue feedback, accuracy, and ratio are just as important if not more
@@jubbalandcars Very true, I had my aw11's bushings completely redone with Urethane and I remember how incredibly sensitive the wheel was, it was almost too sensitive for the highway tbh.
For the GR I'd say is nearly just as accurate only on Sport mode steering.
Just took delivery of our 2023 GR86 Special Edition
From asking the GR86 reddit community, they said that the car have great grip and you can speed in corner with the car being good at gripping, and in the video you do say that the car isn't that grippy and it's play full, idk who to believe lol.
It may sound weird but if I want to daily drive this car normally (no track drive), will reliability be an issue down the line?
I doubt it
Hey I see you know alot about these cars I'm looking at getting a 2013 scion fr-s my self 3 owner car what should I look for to steer clear of in this car going to look at it Saturday
Check maintenance, valve spring recall, good luck!
@@jubbalandcars thank I will for sure and thanks
Should've been given 90's honda style double wishbone up front. Especially with the increased track. Big goof.
#Jubbal&Cars : I appreciate this video and your assessment. I intend on buying a 2024 BRZ Limited in Automatic. I am not sure if you will see this comment, if you do I would love your input. First off the ONLY reason I am getting an Automatic is that I had extensive right shoulder surgery; so an automatic is a necessity 100% over desire. Secondly I am getting the BRZ over the GR86 due to the motor being a Subaru; I have read many times that people with GR86's that had engine problems (had dealer problems too). Some Toyota dealers/mechanics are not familiar with the Subaru engine enough to properly address some engine issues (I understand that this would depend on the specific mechanic and their experience level). I just feel that a Subaru mechanic will be more familiar with the engine. Lastly I am in my late 50s (semi-retired Law Enforcement). I will not be driving this on a track OR pushing the limits of the vehicle; I just want a car that looks great and is super fun to drive. Most of my driving is within 15 miles from my house in any direction; and I will likely drive around 4k miles a year. (My Family vehicle is a 2018 Highlander Le Plus; this vehicle will be just my "fun" car.) With my specific circumstances in mine; would you recommend or not recommend the 2024 BRZ? If you see this your input is greatly appreciated.
Seems like a great fit for you. Your reasoning is quite sound in my opinion. Enjoy!
@@jubbalandcars Thank You!
I would define "raw" as a Caterham 7, Lotus, or Mk2 GTI. I'm sure there several levels of "raw" and I would put the Twins 1-2 on the "raw" scale if 1 is least raw and 3 is very raw, as far as street cars go... the twins are about immersion and involvement for those who enjoy driving and not necessarily racing or winning, just drivong...
Supercharger will boost up to 350hp, with some other mods yeah it's a track car plus lighter than Porsche cars, or other AWD cars.
"They'll get you in the straightways, but you'll get them in the corners."
Mfs always focus on 0-60 in a straight line. The fun part is working on your car to make it better
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I test drove this beauty and holy mother of everything that's divine, the handling and feel is superb for it's class. I know what I'm saving for now gimme, I dunno, 4 years for the market to heal a bit (haha right)
its all about passing ppl(genuine euro dipshits) that want to speed into an onramp like a 270deg onramp....w.o realizing its a 2 laner.....and they slash into the inner most lane....as i pass them on my elantra on the outside....while merging from behind them in teh first place...mid ramp...as they wind up needing to use the outer lane to merge to the FWY....all bc i have some Decent tires....never TRUST a person driving a DIRTY AF luxury car....just a vapid mook that doesnt even clean their "NICE STUFF" with neglect and probably shit tires too. Gotta lettem know.
I'm stuck between getting the subaru brz and the gr86 I like the subaru because there are more modifications available but I like the gr86 because the color options what do you recommend
Modifications are the same on both
I've actually cancelled my order for the GR86 and decided to go with the Integra Type S instead for these very reasons.
My 18 so far has had less problems than some of my buddies new trucks lol and some other peoples cars. 0 codes, driven in -40 weather in the winter and +40 summers its seen it all. 0 codes. I had a idle issue from battery swapping but one day letting the car idle out to warm up it eventually fixed itself as its a known ECU thing to happen
Edit because I stumbled on this video again, but i got my prem gr86 in the same colour. Its an absolute blast for an upgrade from my base 18 and the engine fits the car really well.
New to the market for a sports car and my budget is $500/m was looking for this or a nissan.
It's one of the most fun cars to take to the track or a mountain road. I don't need the power
It still has adequate power too! Unlike the first gen
The track time reason is incorrect in truth. This car does need better tires for good lap times, but this car was made to be fast around a track and it is. Looking at multiple outlets the premium trim 86 is faster than many cars above its price.
Valid counter point
I agree on the last one. While GR86 is an amazing car in the modern age, coming from an Evo 9, it lacked the raw driving sensation that the Evo had. And Because the Evo is technically a 4 door souped up sedan, and the GR86 being a lightweight 2-door coupe known to be fun to drive, to thrash around, I expected a little more when test driving one. There is also something about the drivers feedback from the road surface seemed lacking was a big point to me probably due to being an EPS over hydraulic (at least in stock form). There are something you can fix, such as exhaust, and headers to have more aggressive sound, and stiffer suspension, but is this something you can easily fix? Or its something that I should buy an older car like from the 90s-early 2000s era again.
Had a v8 suv beat me in a straight line the other day, but it certainly wouldn’t come out ahead on top speed, track or cornering.
I enjoy when a V8 truck tailgates me into a corner…
take one of them off ramps that are very round and posted at 25-35 mph at around double that, watch what happens to the suv lololol
and if you think im trying to kill you, my ford edge (a 4k pound suv) takes those at 2x the posted limit, so i think a brz would be fine at that or even higher
XD once i 2 foot breaked in a roundabout when a M beamer SUV was trying to gate me....fool almost jumped the turn LMFAO i was just in my regular elantra daily delivery driver that gets 200MI+ a day under my belt on a good day LMFAO that knows how to actually MOVE a car. I do the same thing every time i get on my local area of work...a few onramps...i pass 4d beamer sedans in the outside 270deg ramp. Tire peformance and psi etc...really matters not that it equates to tire life esp on FF LOL. ADD rain to the equation EVEN More LUL.
can you get it at MSRP?
What car should I get around the same price without it being a dodge , camero mustang etc in the feild
now i'm convinced to get one lol
How do you feel this car holds with the Elantra N? I know the N is more powerful but it’s fwd and a sedan, so I’m unsure of which to go for.
The EN will eat this car for breakfast lunch and dinner especially if you press NGS. It puts car in the most aggressive gear and gives more boost
@@i.d.6492 But it's still a Hyundai
@@hhaste lmao have fun with crappy transmission and subaru engine 🤣
I like track racing that’s why I want a 86 😅
I just want a safe enough daily driver, something fun but not crazy, lightweight just cuz I like lightweight small cars, they seem reliable enough enough problems to learn to work on the car, I currently have a 07 Impreza 2.5i 5 speed manual it’s fun but it’s time for a new car I think swapping to a 86 will be good enough, maybe?
Don't worry about the blind dislikers who just read the title and nothing else, as a lover of this car who can also realize its downsides, great video!!
PLEASE get Toyota/Subaru to release a Corrective Action on the RTV silicone clogging up the oil pickup tube strainer. There is way too much RTV silicone being applied from the factory and pieces are breaking off and clogging up the oil pickup tube strainer enough to damage engines. PLEASE get Toyota/Subaru corporate to fix this issue and use simple gaskets!!
Are the new GR86 like this
One of the reasons I passed on these. A Toyota should have a Toyota motor to begin with and not a Subaru.
@@user-cg7cc7zj3e Very dumb reason to pass on it with such an easy fix. The engine has nothing to do with how much RTV is applied lmao.
@@hhaste It's a Subaru motor and by design is flawed. Nothing lost. Subaru quality has been drastically falling for years now. Not to mention don't turn too hard to the right...the oil pressure drops in this motor! lol
Hey Kevin, how does the GR86 compare to the M2 (OG) on the street? Is more fun and involving the 86 at legal speeds? I can't decide between the two😅
Haven’t driven m2 yet
I will eventually buy one of these secondhand
How many miles can this last? 200k+ like a Camry if I drive it like a Camry?