Why wouldn’t you personally just keep the 15 Pro at that point. No compelling reason to “upgrade” to the base 16. 15 Pro is better than base 16 in pretty much every metric.
@@ChristianGolca You'll notice at most two of those features in your day-to-day usage. If you dropped a grand for a 15 Pro and are thinking of dropping nearly another for an incremental update, I hate to say it, but you're stupid.
One ui 7 copying ios Samsung making their phones flat sides Samsung making their watch look like apple watch Samsung making their buds look like airpods There are lots more Meanwhile ios is copying android
@@isaacreyes2795 zoom into the an edge of a Samsung s24 base model and then look at the zoomed in edge of a iPhone 12. They’re identical. Also they buy their screens from Samsung and lg, their cameras are from Sony.
Me too. Upgraded from 11 and love it (iOS right now is very buggy though). Except my 11 is still working fine with one time battery replaced. Couple times it’s slows down so I choose to upgrade. The 11 did last me a very long time if you take care it well.
lol I came from an 11 with 30% battery health after 5 years. My 16 pro better last at least as long since it was nearly twice what I paid for my iphone 11 (including the purchase of a year of applecare)
Going from a 15 Pro to 16 is pure consumerism, don't delude yourself. You just want "the latest and greatest" look with the new camera lens orientation.
You clearly don’t understand the point in being a tech enthusiast. For those of us that care, the little differences matter. We enjoy having the latest and greatest capabilities and seeing how even the smallest differences can make little improvements in our lives. It’s only “consumerism” for those that think of a phone as a status symbol rather than a piece of beautiful technology.
@@melloweasel So much words and its still, consumerism at its finest. consumerism is beyond status symbol, it's just the acquisition of goods and services beyond those necessary for survival regardless of how much you gonna try to justify your buying with "enjoyment" or "latest" or whatever reasons. in this case specifically, its about buying yearly phones with incremental or barely meaninful changes with FOMO mentality.
There is NO NEED for tech companies to make yearly releases. There should be 2 year cycle. Simple as that. Car manufacturers make 1 model usually 6 years, after 3 years they come up with "facelift". Let's be honest, there is no need to update from 15, but even from 14 and maybe 13. Samsung is similar (a bit more improved, but still).
Phone releases are actually more like car releases. In the auto industry, there maybe a facelift every 3-4 years but their is always a new model released every year. I think what the tech industry is experiencing is the commoditization of the smartphone. Gone are the yearly revolutions and evolutions but that’s ok. As a device category matures, this is inevitable. For those of us were around during the early years we got to see historical developments that made the smartphone what it is. Maybe some new technology, like AR/VR headsets, will show us a new way forward because the smartphone has become everything it will be…
Actually, there is no reason for anyone to upgrade a perfectly good phone for no reason. Your car analogy is incorrect. There’s a new Escalade every year. There’s a new model year car every year. Most people don’t trade their 23 Camry in for the 24 Camry because there’s nothing wrong with the 23.
I've probably watched every single "big" Tech RUclipsr's iPhone 16 review. This is the only one which actually covered the issues with modern-day Apple and you put my exact thoughts into words. These types of reviews is exactly what the tech space has been missing for a while, everyone just covers the slight hardware changes without mentioning the larger picture. Thank you for this video, this is peak tech journalism.
I feel like I am the only person excited about more buttons. I have an iPhone 12 Pro. I can't wait to have a dedicated button to call up the camera and zoom more smoothly. I'm glad I'll be able to use the action button for something else. Seriously.
*Bro. The "Shot on iPhone" at the end gave me chills - almost unbelievable. I should have known when you literally picked up your main camera on set to show it lol. This looks so good for being shot on an iPhone. And not even the Pro phone. Well done.*
If I'm not mistaken, these "Shot on Iphone" video production things are almost always a scene, which will be professional lit (not capable on the iphone alone) and still color-graded in post (not on the iphone alone) with a phone on a camera dolly and gimbal (not stabilized on the iphone alone). Sure the video quality is great and saving in pro-log helps. But this "Shot on Iphone" tag seems hella misleading when people may easily forget you are going need about 50k worth of other equipment to pull this off.
@@blinblinthingthe same goes the other way…. If you use a professional camera with crappy lighting you get a crappy lighting, I don’t see it as misleading at all
My wife just got the MacBook Air and i pretty feel the same way about my MBP. I dont use it for anything pro. Her air is more than capable for everything I do. My next computer will be the air.
that wide angle camera is a MUST have for my profession, and its why year after year I choose it. also as of the 15 pro, the SoC is better than the standard one. and dont forget that LiDAR sensor. the standard phones dont have it, and thus do not have LiDAR based automatic focusing.
@@hannes6114"erm actually it's not shitty, it's integrated with the best os software ever iOS is so ground breaking it goes beyond the laws of physics and pushes the boundaries of a refresh rate, because of unified memory and iOS being so magical apple 60hz is android 120hz, you will never experience a smoother experience in your life and this button revolutionises how you interact with the camera".
The average consumer don’t care about that bro only enthusiast do you think boomers and millennials actually going to the Apple Store saying oh I want 120 Hz iPhone lol a lot of them want the cheapest option with the phone that does everything it needs to do 120 Hz is not a requirement
@@freshprinz9829 ah yes apple is king for consumers, they sell yesterday's phones for tomorrow's prices and the average consumer will gobble it up because they don't want a good phone, they want the same shit with a different number and that phone has to be an iPhone because anything else is Unacceptable to the average consumer, average consumers must buy iPhones because that's all they care about, any android phone is inferior due to apples superior OS, 120hz ❌ an action button that revolutionises the camera experience ✅.
following this channel for a while and its my fav together with Marques. You guys deserve and will get 10s of millions of subscribers for sure! much love from Mars
No you couldn't, everytime I tried taking a video in my car, the damn music would go off, it felt archaic like many other things with apple@@miles34744
@@miles34744 you can by long pressing the camera button. But it’s a hassle and decreases the video quality. Now you can directly press the video button without pausing music!
iOS 18 may seem messy to the average Apple user, but coming from Android the added customisation options was one of my primary incentives for me to try an iPhone. I never liked how limiting the software always seemed, and the day my iPhone got the beta drop it was so awesome seeing what iPhones could do now.
@@HALWG51 And 90% of people who acquire the base model iPhone are either poor people or children, 15 years or younger (precisely why they have vibrant, bright colors for the base model and not for the pro models)... But I couldn't agree with you more: Poor people and children have absolutely zero clue what 60hz even means and they couldn't care less... They just need a phone cheaper than the pros and/or 1 more color to choose from.
The Camera Control button is superfluous and unnecessary. It's too fiddly and awkward to use. And I hate having to rest my fingers on the button when I pick up and hold the phone.
Before the screen it is the megapixels numbers hype, 2020 I use Samsung S20Ultra 5G one of the most expensive Samsung phone to date with option of 60hz and 120 hz , no automatic and it make you choose, I use the 60 hz most of the time and it save my battery consumption and longevity ,it’s the screen and colour gamut that’s matters most for screen to be comfortable to look at
Tim cook needs to go!! No other way round it And btw, online Apple events are sh!t. They were great at beginning. But not anymore. That’s what makes “the apple magic” fades away slowly.
And one more thing, Tim, stop telling us what are you going to reveal in the first minute of the event!! That’s driving me crazy and no body is talking about it!! Remember WWDC2017? How he just said we will announce 7 major things. The first one is… Then the second one is… Not like now, “we will talk about Apple Watch, AirPods, and iPhone” 🤬
This guys close ups are arguably better than MKBHD What’s crazy is that Marques uses a $250k camera for those, I don’t know how and what you are using but i’m loving it😍
I love how people are talking about the latest iPhone models and I'm watching them with my 3 year old Samsung A03s and I'm like "yeah, I take pictures too"
@@VT990 Apple was already established under steve. The new products to come out were already in waiting for the next 5-10 years. Any competent person could take over. The point is tim is TOTALLY NOT a visionary and it shows. Just minor upgrades on products. Steve created products and sectors within tech before it was a thing and people conformed around that. Right now apple is lagging in AI, for example, and it has copied Google and Samsung so many times in other areas, products and features, it's hard to count.
@@VT990 Both can be correct. Tim Cook made Apple grow significantly while neglecting software innovation that Steve Job could have managed better. They would have made a great team. Steve Job as a visionary who oftentimes goes overboard regulated by Tim Cook who is a genius at supply chain, production and sales.
John. Congratulations, this is your best episode ever. This episode is your iPod, Phone , Internet Communicator moment ! 🎉 Incredible transformation of your presentation skills and your team has done solid work. Thank you for this.
The 16 is an amazing stop gap. It's a fantastic phone for the masses. If the 17 Pro Max is as boring as 15 PM --> 16 PM, then the iPhone 16 is an incredible value.
@@Drew1218squite a bit of it is on the inside, we skipped a generation of chips. but really, who cares? as an iPhone user, we can all agree that the base iPhones are overpriced
What the hell happened to Apple's design philosophy about less is more?? They were trying to design their phones to be 'Buttonless'. Now they are adding buttons??? I think the Tim Apple era is coming to an end...
Deal breakers both phones Pro: Too heavy. Ugly camera bump, too expensive Non-Pro: 60hz, no AOD Both: None of the stuff they promised, iOS indeed start to look bloated and a lot of redundancy. Pointless camera button, what a waste of research. Keeping my 13 pro (also too heavy) for longer.
from being a leaker to a tech reviewer.. good one.. keep going Jon.. BTW.. you should've titled this video as "The ONLY iPhone review you'll ever need" --- seriously, worth it..
@@hannes6114they could certainly do 90 hz on the low spec model, make the top spec phones 144 hz with increased touch sensitivity, , maybe even bring some value back to high end models , put a fast charger in the box , put some wired buds in with the low spec models . These days prices are higher, but in some ways value is less.
I've been using iOS 18 on an iPhone SE 2020, personally, I think it's amazing! (Except the photos app). I haven't had any major bugs other than the alarm issue.
The iOS 18 photos app sucks so much. It’s always been one or the simplest apps. One of my favorites. I’ve been using the beta all year, and that change is the one I hate most.
You’re all over it Jon absolutely spot on. 👍 The best tech reviewer by far, been watching the toilet squad for years, always look forward to the honest content, thank you. ☺️
this is basically like car manufacturers slapping a new model year on the same car and changing the wheel style to maintain the same base price instead of lowering it
Your tech videos are documentary and fun. Your team produces better content than most tech reviewers I've watched who use exaggerated wording to the point of sounding fake. I respect your work. Thank you to your whole team.
I always believed that Apple stopped being Apple when Steve Jobs sadly passed away You are just now becoming aware of it! I've watched every keynote but none came close to when Steve was alive! It is what it is and the only way forward
@@MrPeterFrancthat’s kinda the point.. time for find something new that takes over here. 120hz is not even close to a feature to brag about anymore. lol even 90hz would be better
60hz is a total deal breaker. All of my other devices are 120 or higher. 120 is a minimum. Otherwise I agree with you assessment the regular or Plus are the way to go this year.
@@dampflokfreund You realize 90% of users can’t tell the difference. Hell, people who buy the base phones probably don’t even know what ProMotion or 120 hz is.
I’m going for 16 standard but I have a Samsung flip 5 already & I tried the refresh rate compared to iPhone 16 pro & the flip is so much faster & vibrant
Dammmmm your persona change is refreshing ! With this format u can reach mills os subs! Been here since the beginning so mixing your natural humor with this pro level production is awesome !
The compulsive habit of getting a new phone every year is why you feel the way about the 16 pro. Most people don’t change their phone every year. If you had the 15 pro, why change?
No bullshit I’ve been using the pro versions since the 11 and I upgrade every year. This year I went with the teal 16 plus and I actually love it. It didn’t take long to get use to 60hz again
@@darya0209 love it. So far. I’m up by 430-5am and I don’t throw this on the charger till bed time with like last night I went to bed with 51 percent That’s was at 930iah
It didn't take long to get used to 60Hz becoz iphone won't force 120Hz always in any pro variants... So u haven't experienced what it feels to use 120Hz/144Hz screen always.
@@drpuneetuyalimath5731 I’ve only used pro iPhones since the 11 and I buy a new one every year. So I went from a 15 pro to 16 plus. Most likely will switch to my 16 pro eventually but not yet.
Stuck to the screen @ 12:30 the words, SFX, and outro was way fantastic, this is one of the best video I watched today, though i'm not Apple Lover Good Job Front Page Tech and Team, Kudos to the team behind this video, Writer, Director, SFX Artist, Cheers 🥂
Other creators should take note of Jern's style. He's not yelling and splashing endless AI videos behind himself. Just a person that knows what they are talking about talking like a reasonable person.
Software is the most important thing for me. That's why I recently quitted IOS and went with the Pixel. Rly love the simplicity and fluent nature of Googles Pixel Android.
The intro, the script, the lighting, the review and the gripe is better than any other iPhone review out there. Even better than MKBHD. Never got bored even for a second. fpt is the new MKBHD tbh.
Great video! I'm noticing that you're a lot more serious in your videos and to the point. In the past you would use humor in your videos which I kind of miss. Did something happen?
As to why I’m still on my iPhone 13 Pro it’s good it’s modernized and has good features and performance. Not gonna buy a new phone till the 17 pro max or hopefully ultra if that’s even a thing anymore
Dude, what happened to you. Production value through the roof. Congratulations! keep it up. Cheers from Portugal (yes, in Europe and no, it's not Spain).
did he just compare a giant camera sensor to a phone's 48 mp camera sesnor? is he that dumb? i am sure he knows about pixel size but chose to utter this non sense because he had to fill in points to justify his video title
Am I arguing that more megapixels = better quality sensor? No. If I thought that, we wouldn't have a studio camera. But megapixels do directly correlate to the ability to crop zoom-- so yes, I did compare.
Its simple Jon Apple is doing too many things in my opinion. When Steve Jobs came back in 1997 they had over 350 products Steve cut all of those down to just 10 products. It allowed them to be more focused on quality over quantity. Except Apple is also doing all these services too. I also think its partially an issue also perpetrated by the tech communities insatiable hunger for constant innovation or as you stated "change for the sake of change" because if the change isnt substantial people claim they are lazy. But I think smartphones are just extremly mature there really isnt much else to do except foldables. Which is why bi yearly releases should become the norm.
@@quokka7555 Both things? I don't have battery issues with the ProMotion, and it is variable. I tested turning it off and the screen was noticeably more choppy.
@@ericbarber3420 AOD I can see what notifications (via icons) I have just by glancing at the screen; no need to wake the phone. It also makes a good clock when I'm using full-screen on my desktop as well. It's really quite useful and now that I've used it for a few years there's no way I'm not getting a phone without it.
Wow man, this professional format juxtaposed with your typical comedic style makes your perspective resonate deep. I wish you had acknowledged that Apple implemented many features requested by users in IOS 18. It seems like the first software update they’ve issued in a long time that listened to its customers. However - the general message is spot on, because there was a time when we didn’t need to ask because they solved issues we never realized existed. Apple used to innovate with software and ecosystem and I feel I’m experiencing the slow collapse of a revolutionary company - and what’s most discouraging is they won’t see this feedback even if you offered it to them directly.
I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again-no one, absolutely no one, is making videos like Jon. He’s found his own niche and is riding that wave in his own unique way. Apple seriously needs to see this video because there isn’t a single lie in what he said. And don’t even get me started on the implementation of the 3D animation in this video-are you kidding me? I’ve never seen anyone do it this well. The entire video was so well-edited and well-presented that no one is touching him right now. Sorry, big man “MKBHD,” but you might want to learn a thing or two from Jon. This video, compared to your last one on the iPhone 16, is worlds apart. There are levels, and Jon’s on another one.
This video is on a whole other level. A huge reality check. The fanboys must be seething, though 🤣 Loving the aspect ratio as well. Fits my ultrawide perfectly.
Was going to upgrade until I realized that I, a French Canadian, would not benefit from any of the implementations until next year. So that’s exactly what I’m gonna do. Wait till next year!
Special thanks to @asherdipps who worked many hours with us make this video possible ❤️ subscribe to him here ruclips.net/user/asherdipprey
What resolution did you use for the video?
hey Jon, so which one you choosing? 16 or 16plus??
Spoilers
Yeah it’s funky. Smelly.funky and smelly.smelly and funky.
@@davidddo 5140x2160
Why wouldn’t you personally just keep the 15 Pro at that point. No compelling reason to “upgrade” to the base 16. 15 Pro is better than base 16 in pretty much every metric.
thats what i thought
He’s a tech guy. He’s going to upgrade.
iPhone 15/15 Pro had a problem with screen dimming so some people are probably tired of that.
Lighter weight, improved thermal management, Wi-Fi 7, cool color 😂
@@ChristianGolca You'll notice at most two of those features in your day-to-day usage. If you dropped a grand for a 15 Pro and are thinking of dropping nearly another for an incremental update, I hate to say it, but you're stupid.
Samsung trying to be iPhone, while iPhone trying to be an Android is a sign that we have reached peak Smartphones.
How is Samsung trying to be I phone when they are already better and I phone buys their cameras from Samsung. I think it’s the other way around
@@isaacreyes2795have you seen samsung new tws and watch?
One ui 7 copying ios
Samsung making their phones flat sides
Samsung making their watch look like apple watch
Samsung making their buds look like airpods
There are lots more
Meanwhile ios is copying android
@@isaacreyes2795 zoom into the an edge of a Samsung s24 base model and then look at the zoomed in edge of a iPhone 12. They’re identical. Also they buy their screens from Samsung and lg, their cameras are from Sony.
Yup
Coming from the iPhone 11, with 46% battery health and half the screen not working…the 16 pro is an absolute masterpiece, I’ll upgrade again in 2030
Sheesh. Sounds like you should have upgraded a few years ago, mate
Me too. Upgraded from 11 and love it (iOS right now is very buggy though). Except my 11 is still working fine with one time battery replaced. Couple times it’s slows down so I choose to upgrade. The 11 did last me a very long time if you take care it well.
@@waltonks8172 same, I only dropped the phone recently, only reason I had to upgrade
lol I came from an 11 with 30% battery health after 5 years. My 16 pro better last at least as long since it was nearly twice what I paid for my iphone 11 (including the purchase of a year of applecare)
If you upgrade to 16 pro from 11 that's a giant leap that's why you feel it's a masterpiece.
Going from a 15 Pro to 16 is pure consumerism, don't delude yourself. You just want "the latest and greatest" look with the new camera lens orientation.
Or you just want the cute colors. Worth it alone.
or he is stup enought like a blondy
The first comment literally case point lol
You clearly don’t understand the point in being a tech enthusiast. For those of us that care, the little differences matter. We enjoy having the latest and greatest capabilities and seeing how even the smallest differences can make little improvements in our lives. It’s only “consumerism” for those that think of a phone as a status symbol rather than a piece of beautiful technology.
@@melloweasel So much words and its still, consumerism at its finest. consumerism is beyond status symbol, it's just the acquisition of goods and services beyond those necessary for survival regardless of how much you gonna try to justify your buying with "enjoyment" or "latest" or whatever reasons. in this case specifically, its about buying yearly phones with incremental or barely meaninful changes with FOMO mentality.
I'm still rocking an iPhone 12 Pro, just replaced the battery a few months back. I just don't see the need to upgrade.
Same here, but I have iPhone 13 Pro. Battery replaced last weekend
SE from 2016. I don’t see why I should buy a new one.
@@joachimb5721 iPhone 7 here with a "service" level battery. Still see no need to upgrade.
The 12 pro was my fav phone
My iphone 7 is still going strong
There is NO NEED for tech companies to make yearly releases. There should be 2 year cycle. Simple as that. Car manufacturers make 1 model usually 6 years, after 3 years they come up with "facelift".
Let's be honest, there is no need to update from 15, but even from 14 and maybe 13. Samsung is similar (a bit more improved, but still).
Phone releases are actually more like car releases. In the auto industry, there maybe a facelift every 3-4 years but their is always a new model released every year.
I think what the tech industry is experiencing is the commoditization of the smartphone. Gone are the yearly revolutions and evolutions but that’s ok.
As a device category matures, this is inevitable. For those of us were around during the early years we got to see historical developments that made the smartphone what it is.
Maybe some new technology, like AR/VR headsets, will show us a new way forward because the smartphone has become everything it will be…
Actually, there is no reason for anyone to upgrade a perfectly good phone for no reason. Your car analogy is incorrect. There’s a new Escalade every year. There’s a new model year car every year. Most people don’t trade their 23 Camry in for the 24 Camry because there’s nothing wrong with the 23.
I have 12 pro max and I can’t convince myself to upgrade
I totally agree with the cycle upgrades - they’re not needed every year anymore…
Just don’t buy it every year?? Lmao why is this a comment
I don't get why anyone would go from 15pro down to 16 base. What's the point? Just to get a blue phone?
Views man, the views.
It is lighter to hold
Neural engine for AI when it comes, bezels. That’s it
AI is all gimmicks@@geolykos
He answered your question there. But in real life scenario? prolly some girl wanting a pink iphone...
MAN THAT INTRO ANIMATION WAS BETTER THAN APPLE PRESENTATION 😭
if it didnt have shitty graphs
Your profile picture tho hahaha
I agree absolutely incredible maybe Jon could be the next CEO of Apple
RUclipsr brain rot
it is apples
I've probably watched every single "big" Tech RUclipsr's iPhone 16 review. This is the only one which actually covered the issues with modern-day Apple and you put my exact thoughts into words. These types of reviews is exactly what the tech space has been missing for a while, everyone just covers the slight hardware changes without mentioning the larger picture. Thank you for this video, this is peak tech journalism.
@@Martuhhhh he is the Goat man. A perfect blend of intelligence and humor. Fpt is criminally underrated
Ok
I feel like I am the only person excited about more buttons. I have an iPhone 12 Pro. I can't wait to have a dedicated button to call up the camera and zoom more smoothly. I'm glad I'll be able to use the action button for something else. Seriously.
5:14 the case coverd the flash 😭
But that impact easing 😮😮😮
Hahaha
1:51 Nobody ever needed a pro; we just want it, not because we need it, but because we can. The rest is BS.
*Bro. The "Shot on iPhone" at the end gave me chills - almost unbelievable. I should have known when you literally picked up your main camera on set to show it lol. This looks so good for being shot on an iPhone. And not even the Pro phone. Well done.*
There are a couple of other hints in the video 👀😏
We need to know what they are haha
If I'm not mistaken, these "Shot on Iphone" video production things are almost always a scene, which will be professional lit (not capable on the iphone alone) and still color-graded in post (not on the iphone alone) with a phone on a camera dolly and gimbal (not stabilized on the iphone alone).
Sure the video quality is great and saving in pro-log helps.
But this "Shot on Iphone" tag seems hella misleading when people may easily forget you are going need about 50k worth of other equipment to pull this off.
@@blinblinthing no one asked u neegah
@@blinblinthingthe same goes the other way….
If you use a professional camera with crappy lighting you get a crappy lighting, I don’t see it as misleading at all
My wife just got the MacBook Air and i pretty feel the same way about my MBP. I dont use it for anything pro. Her air is more than capable for everything I do. My next computer will be the air.
that wide angle camera is a MUST have for my profession, and its why year after year I choose it. also as of the 15 pro, the SoC is better than the standard one. and dont forget that LiDAR sensor. the standard phones dont have it, and thus do not have LiDAR based automatic focusing.
People asked for 120hz, but got a new button instead 🤷♂
A shitty button
@@hannes6114"erm actually it's not shitty, it's integrated with the best os software ever iOS is so ground breaking it goes beyond the laws of physics and pushes the boundaries of a refresh rate, because of unified memory and iOS being so magical apple 60hz is android 120hz, you will never experience a smoother experience in your life and this button revolutionises how you interact with the camera".
@@AssassinIsAfknow that’s comedy right there, you’re good man.😅
The average consumer don’t care about that bro only enthusiast do you think boomers and millennials actually going to the Apple Store saying oh I want 120 Hz iPhone lol a lot of them want the cheapest option with the phone that does everything it needs to do 120 Hz is not a requirement
@@freshprinz9829 ah yes apple is king for consumers, they sell yesterday's phones for tomorrow's prices and the average consumer will gobble it up because they don't want a good phone, they want the same shit with a different number and that phone has to be an iPhone because anything else is Unacceptable to the average consumer, average consumers must buy iPhones because that's all they care about, any android phone is inferior due to apples superior OS, 120hz ❌ an action button that revolutionises the camera experience ✅.
The normal 16 still has 60hz in 2024.
Correct. You must be missing his point.
@@RonnocbotOr OP didn't miss his point and is just providing their own point.
Watch next years base iphone have 120 hz. I wonder if a bunch of iPhone pro users will switch over .
@@BelleWhoodle I probs would tbh
@@BelleWhoodle Then they'll give Pro 240 Hz.
Damn you Prosser. I am actually wondering if next year I should go base model...
That blue one is insanely gorgeous.
If they added promotion, I would never get another pro. I think they realize that too😢
@@donaldchee I doubt they will add it next year. They've had many years to add it, so what makes next year different
Well, all iPhone 17 models will have always-on 120Hz display. So maybe you should?
@@mr.grumps3544affordability, so that way they can keep the base iphone price more or less the same
again, with the intro's. these could be in Apple ads. actually better than the Apple ads. bravo...
following this channel for a while and its my fav together with Marques. You guys deserve and will get 10s of millions of subscribers for sure! much love from Mars
Shot on iPhone 16. Default camera app. No attachments. 😂
I thought something was off. I thought it was my resolution. But it was pretty good overall
I had 4 pro phones before the 16 released and I went with the base 16. The battery life is insane. Its so light and the camera is so good
Same thing here. Been going pro every year since the 11 and this year went 16 plus and I’m loving it. Took 2 secs to get use to 60hz again
is the 60hz that like annoying?
One amazing thing about IOS 18:
You can finally record video without music pausing.
you could do that before lol
No you couldn't, everytime I tried taking a video in my car, the damn music would go off, it felt archaic like many other things with apple@@miles34744
@@miles34744 you can by long pressing the camera button. But it’s a hassle and decreases the video quality. Now you can directly press the video button without pausing music!
You can also finally record video and be able to pause the video.
Why do you need music when taking a video btw?
4:58 did you seriously compare a tiny af phone camera setup to an actual camera with a lens? ...
why would you go from the 15 Pro Max to the 16?
Consumerism
Because it’s blue
because I can afford it and want a new iPhone every year
Brokey
@@westsidehvac1097you’re odd
iOS 18 may seem messy to the average Apple user, but coming from Android the added customisation options was one of my primary incentives for me to try an iPhone. I never liked how limiting the software always seemed, and the day my iPhone got the beta drop it was so awesome seeing what iPhones could do now.
*60hz display is insane, lol... Once you go higher, it's impossible to go back to lower quality...*
90%of users DO NOT care.
@@HALWG51 And 90% of people who acquire the base model iPhone are either poor people or children, 15 years or younger (precisely why they have vibrant, bright colors for the base model and not for the pro models)... But I couldn't agree with you more: Poor people and children have absolutely zero clue what 60hz even means and they couldn't care less... They just need a phone cheaper than the pros and/or 1 more color to choose from.
My PC monitor is 240Hz, 60Hz would drive me insane on an iPhone since I'm used to seeing 240Hz when I'm using my PC.
@@RVTGROUPthats a bit of an exaggeration but 60hz is disgusting after seeing 120
@@WAR-DAMN-EAGLE are you into gaming and anime by any chance?
The Camera Control button is superfluous and unnecessary. It's too fiddly and awkward to use. And I hate having to rest my fingers on the button when I pick up and hold the phone.
Going from a 15 Pro to a base 16 makes no logical sense, the 15 Pro is still better in almost every way.
100%
1:24 I’m sorry but for $800+ I don’t wanna feel like I have “just a phone” in my pocket.
i feel sorry for you
and here in Brazil it costs $1300 or R$7800
Then don’t buy a new phone every 1-5 years...
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60hz on a 1000$ phone is just insane... apple upsell strategy is brutal
dont buy it, simple 😂
Before the screen it is the megapixels numbers hype, 2020 I use Samsung S20Ultra 5G one of the most expensive Samsung phone to date with option of 60hz and 120 hz , no automatic and it make you choose, I use the 60 hz most of the time and it save my battery consumption and longevity ,it’s the screen and colour gamut that’s matters most for screen to be comfortable to look at
@@tfr6398I dont and I laugh at people who buy it. Greetings from a 120hz Fold.
@@Kostas_Dikefalaios they weren’t even talking to you lol
@@quokka7555 I know he wasnt. But I am just a random guy like the one he replied to so it doesnt matter.
man this Video is beyond phenomenal, the speech, the quality, everything. I very much enjoyed it. 🎉
iPhone 16 is what the iPhone 12 was, the almost Pro iPhone
iPhone 12 is probably the phone that does what the new iPhones can do at a lower price nowadays.
@@cannedplacebo3198 I would argue it's the iphone 13
The iPhone 12 were hot garbage tho
@@MF_OXF Yeah the battery life on all models except the Pro max was atrocious
I upgraded from 12mini just because of the awful battery life
Tim cook needs to go!!
No other way round it
And btw, online Apple events are sh!t.
They were great at beginning. But not anymore. That’s what makes “the apple magic” fades away slowly.
Just look at apple’s oct 2018 event beginning and the excitement of the people. And look how sad September 2024 event is!
And one more thing, Tim, stop telling us what are you going to reveal in the first minute of the event!!
That’s driving me crazy and no body is talking about it!!
Remember WWDC2017?
How he just said we will announce 7 major things. The first one is…
Then the second one is…
Not like now, “we will talk about Apple Watch, AirPods, and iPhone” 🤬
I used to love watching Apple events but now they are boring to me and have been for quite some time.
Specially pre-recorded events!
@@SMBowers
Jon!!
You need to bring that topic on next genus bar episode 🌚👉🏻👈🏻
This guys close ups are arguably better than MKBHD
What’s crazy is that Marques uses a $250k camera for those, I don’t know how and what you are using but i’m loving it😍
he used his iphone
I love how people are talking about the latest iPhone models and I'm watching them with my 3 year old Samsung A03s and I'm like "yeah, I take pictures too"
What apple could have been with Steve. tim is just a supply chain guy. Totally, NOT a visionary...
Tim didn't Cook
When Steve Jobs passed away Apple was so tiny compared to now. Most of their growth and success has been under Tim Cook.
@@VT990 Apple was already established under steve. The new products to come out were already in waiting for the next 5-10 years. Any competent person could take over. The point is tim is TOTALLY NOT a visionary and it shows. Just minor upgrades on products.
Steve created products and sectors within tech before it was a thing and people conformed around that. Right now apple is lagging in AI, for example, and it has copied Google and Samsung so many times in other areas, products and features, it's hard to count.
@@Revmotif 👍
@@VT990 Both can be correct. Tim Cook made Apple grow significantly while neglecting software innovation that Steve Job could have managed better. They would have made a great team. Steve Job as a visionary who oftentimes goes overboard regulated by Tim Cook who is a genius at supply chain, production and sales.
Missed you, man! Great content, as always. Thanks for always being true🙏🏻
The intro was crazy good!!!!!!
John. Congratulations, this is your best episode ever. This episode is your iPod, Phone , Internet Communicator moment ! 🎉 Incredible transformation of your presentation skills and your team has done solid work. Thank you for this.
The 16 is an amazing stop gap. It's a fantastic phone for the masses.
If the 17 Pro Max is as boring as 15 PM --> 16 PM, then the iPhone 16 is an incredible value.
Screen too small. Battery too small. Pro Max only.
How is the 16 much different from the 15,14 or even the 13? It really isn’t much different at all.
@@Drew1218squite a bit of it is on the inside, we skipped a generation of chips. but really, who cares? as an iPhone user, we can all agree that the base iPhones are overpriced
@@qerbeynintendo yup
@@BadMannerKorea I truly do not get the obsession with massive phones...
What the hell happened to Apple's design philosophy about less is more?? They were trying to design their phones to be 'Buttonless'. Now they are adding buttons??? I think the Tim Apple era is coming to an end...
My point exactly. They are going more complex each day.
Try the capture button, it’s really nice, especially for taking photos one handed
Same with taking pictures with one hand without the 'camera button '
It's been okay all these years without it.@@Ph0enix7373
The rumor mill said Apple was going buttonless via Haptic Touch but Apple didn't say anything.
@@Ph0enix7373 you can capture photos with volume down button as well. Nothing really additive functionality here that didnt exist before.
Deal breakers both phones
Pro: Too heavy. Ugly camera bump, too expensive
Non-Pro: 60hz, no AOD
Both: None of the stuff they promised, iOS indeed start to look bloated and a lot of redundancy. Pointless camera button, what a waste of research.
Keeping my 13 pro (also too heavy) for longer.
15 pro got much lighter and seems like a good middle ground
bro, 13 pro has shaky videos.
I actually would turn the AOD off if I bought the pro it's the most useless feature
i dont know a single person that actually uses AOD
Funny how before the 14 Pro people trashed on Apple for not having AOD, and now everyone’s like it’s useless. Funny how that works isn’t it?
from being a leaker to a tech reviewer.. good one..
keep going Jon..
BTW.. you should've titled this video as "The ONLY iPhone review you'll ever need" --- seriously, worth it..
In all seriousness man you are doing some of the best reviews on RUclips. Well shot and produced videos. Always a pleasure to watch man.
Even if I am doing the numero dose every time you talking dog.
Your videos are good. But we still poopin out here lol
120hz shouldnt be "pro" motion, pro motion should be something like 400hz, 120 is the default
It should not exist. They should all have ltpo 120hz or 144 or something, much more is wasteful for scrolling on your phone I think
@@hannes6114they could certainly do 90 hz on the low spec model, make the top spec phones 144 hz with increased touch sensitivity, , maybe even bring some value back to high end models , put a fast charger in the box , put some wired buds in with the low spec models .
These days prices are higher, but in some ways value is less.
@@hannes6114yeah they called it “pro motion” as an upsell when that should just be a standard built in feature
And human eye see ca 55 hz 😅
@@ignaccc1 wrong
I've been using iOS 18 on an iPhone SE 2020, personally, I think it's amazing! (Except the photos app). I haven't had any major bugs other than the alarm issue.
Why not just keep the 15 pro? 🙄🙄🙄
Title is real guys. What a production.
The intro is FIRE!!! Kudos to the whole FPT team!
The iOS 18 photos app sucks so much. It’s always been one or the simplest apps. One of my favorites. I’ve been using the beta all year, and that change is the one I hate most.
once I customized it the way i want it, i love it.
Waiting for the iPhone 17 pro tbh. Want the redesign
You’re all over it Jon absolutely spot on. 👍 The best tech reviewer by far, been watching the toilet squad for years, always look forward to the honest content, thank you. ☺️
this is basically like car manufacturers slapping a new model year on the same car and changing the wheel style to maintain the same base price instead of lowering it
Your tech videos are documentary and fun. Your team produces better content than most tech reviewers I've watched who use exaggerated wording to the point of sounding fake. I respect your work. Thank you to your whole team.
I wouldn't mind how convoluted iOS 18 is, I just wish battery life wouldn't keep taking hits with every new major iOS version..
Exactly. I think they secretly nerf the battery to force us to buy new phones.
@@albertoguerrero007 that may be the case, but they don't need to do that, ever since iOS 16 it got so bloated it did it even unintentionally
I always believed that Apple stopped being Apple when Steve Jobs sadly passed away You are just now becoming aware of it! I've watched every keynote but none came close to when Steve was alive! It is what it is and the only way forward
I completely agree, I hope apple doesn't lose it's way as a software company. ios 18 feels unfinished...
Your videos are getting better and better.. well done! 👏🏻
These videos keep getting better.
iPhone 16 still 60Hz 🤦♂️
It's hard for me to believe anyone that used 120hz before not be bothered about going back to 60hz That's not how our eyes work! 🙎🏾♂️
If they put 120 there would be too little difference either way the pro ahah
USB 2.0 💀
@@MrHarvenator Had a 15 Pro switched to 16 Plus and in a day I was fine. would I rather have 120hz sure, does it bother me? Nope
@@MrPeterFrancthat’s kinda the point.. time for find something new that takes over here. 120hz is not even close to a feature to brag about anymore. lol even 90hz would be better
60hz is a total deal breaker. All of my other devices are 120 or higher. 120 is a minimum. Otherwise I agree with you assessment the regular or Plus are the way to go this year.
i would use my 90 hz screen on my phone if it didn't make 60 fps locked games look bad
Even $150 chinese phones have 90 Hz displays or better. 60 Hz in such an expensive phone is a scam, plain and simple.
@@dampflokfreund You realize 90% of users can’t tell the difference. Hell, people who buy the base phones probably don’t even know what ProMotion or 120 hz is.
I’m going for 16 standard but I have a Samsung flip 5 already & I tried the refresh rate compared to iPhone 16 pro & the flip is so much faster & vibrant
THIS.
Been noticing changes in Apple's direction that are so un-Apple.
They're not behaving like the Apple we loved.
Bro has a RUclips channel! 👀
Dammmmm your persona change is refreshing ! With this format u can reach mills os subs! Been here since the beginning so mixing your natural humor with this pro level production is awesome !
The compulsive habit of getting a new phone every year is why you feel the way about the 16 pro. Most people don’t change their phone every year. If you had the 15 pro, why change?
No bullshit I’ve been using the pro versions since the 11 and I upgrade every year. This year I went with the teal 16 plus and I actually love it. It didn’t take long to get use to 60hz again
Hello, Can you maybe tell me what the batterylife is like?
@@darya0209 love it. So far. I’m up by 430-5am and I don’t throw this on the charger till bed time with like last night I went to bed with 51 percent That’s was at 930iah
It didn't take long to get used to 60Hz becoz iphone won't force 120Hz always in any pro variants... So u haven't experienced what it feels to use 120Hz/144Hz screen always.
🍎🐑
@@drpuneetuyalimath5731 I’ve only used pro iPhones since the 11 and I buy a new one every year. So I went from a 15 pro to 16 plus. Most likely will switch to my 16 pro eventually but not yet.
The ending… WHAT?!
😏
i would not have commented normally but this comment is spot on. That ending made my jaw drop. I hope apple sees this.
This dude is a living cliche of verbally spouting cliche lines.
I stopped the video when he started praising the color. Dude wtf?? It's a washed out blue? What's amazing about it? Apple sheep
Honestly not mad at his content, respects
@@JasonNortwich are you sure you know what cliche means?
Stuck to the screen @ 12:30 the words, SFX, and outro was way fantastic, this is one of the best video I watched today, though i'm not Apple Lover Good Job Front Page Tech and Team, Kudos to the team behind this video, Writer, Director, SFX Artist, Cheers 🥂
Other creators should take note of Jern's style. He's not yelling and splashing endless AI videos behind himself. Just a person that knows what they are talking about talking like a reasonable person.
Software is the most important thing for me. That's why I recently quitted IOS and went with the Pixel. Rly love the simplicity and fluent nature of Googles Pixel Android.
I’m tempted
Apple IS just another company that makes hardware. Theyve just brainwashed you with their marketting. End of story.
The intro, the script, the lighting, the review and the gripe is better than any other iPhone review out there. Even better than MKBHD. Never got bored even for a second. fpt is the new MKBHD tbh.
Wow cinematic work FPT! The audio and visuals feel soooooo good! Thank you Jern and Bern!
Great video!
I'm noticing that you're a lot more serious in your videos and to the point.
In the past you would use humor in your videos which I kind of miss. Did something happen?
It’s just a new format
As to why I’m still on my iPhone 13 Pro it’s good it’s modernized and has good features and performance. Not gonna buy a new phone till the 17 pro max or hopefully ultra if that’s even a thing anymore
Yup - me too
That F*cking Intro! I love it Man! ❤
fpt is hands down the best tech reviewer out there.
I’m still using my 12 pro max . Almost a 5 years old phone and it’s fast and has a great camera
11:56 this is all needed to show someone who doesn't have the 16 feel how the 16 is. I bought the 16 pro and I regret it
I was looking what is different about john. He isnt being funny anymore why so serious
Quality over quantity wins every time! Great job 🎉
Dude, what happened to you. Production value through the roof. Congratulations! keep it up. Cheers from Portugal (yes, in Europe and no, it's not Spain).
Your lighting during the talking head segments is immaculate
why is this video so dark?
apple became google - same dull and slow company
did he just compare a giant camera sensor to a phone's 48 mp camera sesnor? is he that dumb? i am sure he knows about pixel size but chose to utter this non sense because he had to fill in points to justify his video title
Agreed bad justification from his part
Yep.
That's the hype isheeps always attach to the iPhone.
Am I arguing that more megapixels = better quality sensor? No. If I thought that, we wouldn't have a studio camera. But megapixels do directly correlate to the ability to crop zoom-- so yes, I did compare.
I completely understood his comparison tbh,
@FrontPageTech If one camera produces grainy and blurry images/video watched at 100% and the other one doesn’t, it does not correlate directly.
I came from the 14 pro the iPhone 16 and I’m not looking back.
What is it with people complaining about all phones being a rectangle? A rectangle is objectively the best shape for a smart phone.
Its simple Jon Apple is doing too many things in my opinion. When Steve Jobs came back in 1997 they had over 350 products Steve cut all of those down to just 10 products. It allowed them to be more focused on quality over quantity. Except Apple is also doing all these services too.
I also think its partially an issue also perpetrated by the tech communities insatiable hunger for constant innovation or as you stated "change for the sake of change" because if the change isnt substantial people claim they are lazy.
But I think smartphones are just extremly mature there really isnt much else to do except foldables. Which is why bi yearly releases should become the norm.
THANK YOU THANK YOU and THANK YOU
Finally someone brought up the bloated buggy software. I've been saying this for years.
no promotion, no always on display? no thanx I will stay pro
Whats the benefit of always on display anyway?
@@ericbarber3420 both those things just drain the battery faster. You’re trying too hard to fit in…
@@quokka7555 Both things? I don't have battery issues with the ProMotion, and it is variable. I tested turning it off and the screen was noticeably more choppy.
@@quokka7555 You lose about 2-3% of battery per day on an AOD; it's negligible.
@@ericbarber3420 AOD I can see what notifications (via icons) I have just by glancing at the screen; no need to wake the phone. It also makes a good clock when I'm using full-screen on my desktop as well.
It's really quite useful and now that I've used it for a few years there's no way I'm not getting a phone without it.
Wow man, this professional format juxtaposed with your typical comedic style makes your perspective resonate deep. I wish you had acknowledged that Apple implemented many features requested by users in IOS 18. It seems like the first software update they’ve issued in a long time that listened to its customers. However - the general message is spot on, because there was a time when we didn’t need to ask because they solved issues we never realized existed. Apple used to innovate with software and ecosystem and I feel I’m experiencing the slow collapse of a revolutionary company - and what’s most discouraging is they won’t see this feedback even if you offered it to them directly.
I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again-no one, absolutely no one, is making videos like Jon. He’s found his own niche and is riding that wave in his own unique way. Apple seriously needs to see this video because there isn’t a single lie in what he said.
And don’t even get me started on the implementation of the 3D animation in this video-are you kidding me? I’ve never seen anyone do it this well. The entire video was so well-edited and well-presented that no one is touching him right now.
Sorry, big man “MKBHD,” but you might want to learn a thing or two from Jon. This video, compared to your last one on the iPhone 16, is worlds apart. There are levels, and Jon’s on another one.
Holy shit jern isn’t wearing a hoodie?! WHAT IS HAPPENING??
The phone kept focusing in on the hoodie because it knew it was the star.
No it isn’t. The end.
This video is on a whole other level. A huge reality check. The fanboys must be seething, though 🤣 Loving the aspect ratio as well. Fits my ultrawide perfectly.
@@SamuelGawith-ks2hi it's 21:9 which would fit better on smartphones as well
Was going to upgrade until I realized that I, a French Canadian, would not benefit from any of the implementations until next year. So that’s exactly what I’m gonna do. Wait till next year!
I love how matured you've become Prosser. Keep it up