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The problem with a lot of the old money brands, like brooks Brothers, allen edmonds, polo, is that over the years,,manufacturing has shipped overseas and diminished quality has been creeping in over the years as a byproduct. Plus much to a lot of our chagrins most Americans don't dress for the occasion anymore. We have moved to athleisure over knowing what to wear for the appropriate occasion
@@hoverda Definitely! I've also noticed Brooks Brothers sizing has become very wonky, too tight or too loose or just unflattering. They still have some decent stuff it just never fits me properly unfortunately. Spent like $1,900 on a bunch of items in multiple sizes per item every single item went back unfortunately due to sizing.
Always find your videos very informative and timely 😊 This one was so right on for the season that I had to comment on it. The way you compartmentalize the different aspects of quiet luxury was so concise I felt my brain finally understood the concept. Kudos 2 U!
I try to ignore labels like "old money," "quiet luxury," "techwear," "formal," "athleisure," anything that ends in CORE 😂etc, and just try to consider learning about them to be "how to dress different ways."
I am just a slob, but I have never had much trouble finding good quality products that don’t draw too much attention. Chances are, if it costs a lot of money and is flashy, it isn’t worth it. I will say that I love my Ettinger wallet.
Any man who hates on the “old money” trend just wants justification to continue dressing like a child the rest of their lives aka me before I discovered how much more gratifying it is to not chase all these dumb street wear trends that fade out in a years time and leave you with a bunch of clothes that you felt guilted into buying
Wonder if there is a style that is in the middle of these two styles. Enjoying quality (old money), with a minimalist touch (quiet luxury) yet is not spending an arm or leg for a shirt haha
Mr. Centeno, I doubt you will read this comment but, just in case, here I go. In theory, I should not be watching your videos for two good reasons: A) I am not American. You are a product of American society and as such you reflect a lot of values and ideas which are uniquely American and, in many cases, do not apply to me for geographical as well as cultural reasons (I am Italian) B) I am 65 years old; which means I do not have reasons to dress very nicely, as I would like to. My social life is almost non-existent and my friends, as excellent and knowledgeable as they are, do not care for sartorial elegance; therefore, if I go to a reunion dressed very smartly I would be a fool out-of-place. So, why I am watching your videos? Because many of them are still relevant to me and, most importantly, because you are an excellent speaker; you are knowledgeable, articulate and, last but not least, eloquent. Wishing you all the best. Yours sincerely, Claudio
I live when flake walk around with huge LV on the bag thinking they look “ luxury .” 😂 the real wealth is not easy to “ see “ but when u do see it you can tell. Think Cartier 10k bracelet. Look it up. Very subtle. Ninjas we love to advertise for the rich! 🤦🏽♂️😂😂
Old Money = Ivy Style = J. Press = Brooks Brothers, Alden, Allen Edmonds, Tony Lama, Dan Post Quiet Style = Custom Suits made in Italy, Bangkok, London, Pattaya
Gucci - Old Money? Are you kidding me? Maybe the House of Gucci used to be, but they have since sold their soul to become the House of Bling! No respectable Old Money icon would be caught dead wearing anything with a Gucci logo! Gucci isn't even .New Money - it's Wanna Be.
Yes, it's pretty much all rebranding by young people who think they've invented all new styles or something by combining elements that largely don't go together as well as they'd think or like?
Leatherneck, I really appreciate the 100% effort you put in passing on hard won knowledge. I first learned of the word sartorial splendor while reading W. E. B. Griffin's Brotherhood of War series. Two army officers were discussing an upcoming gala and that the Marines stationed in post war Germany would be there, quite possibly in boat cloak. It was at this time in the late 1980s as a young, snot-nosed LCpl that I decided to step up my game with what and when I could afford it. Now that I'm 60 I'm looking to scale back a bit, ditch the over half of my wardrobe that is outdated and never coming back, but remain reasonably fashionable as I reenter the dating scene. This Devil Dog might be old, but with your help he's still learning some new fashion tricks . Thank you and Semper Fidelis!
I am definitely not Old Money, but after watching this I could be Quiet Luxury as I like the classic lines and straight forward look. I will add a pocket square and Lapel pin to round out my outfits also.
I would say this was not true. Also, jeans are completely overrated and unnecessary for many of the people who wear them daily even if they HAVE "labor" jobs.
@@jareknowak8712 Chinos are way more comfortable and look nicer (especially with stretch). Good ones even feel as comfortable as sweat pants, but you still look sharp in them. Jeans can't compete with that
Love this topic. I always dressed very traditionally (vests, topcoats, chino's, leather dress shoes, etc.) and indeed it always upset some progressives. Nietzsche calls their criticisms sIave morality.
🤔 Well it's never upset this pragmatic Progressive. I've been dressing straight Ivy my entire life. Alden, Allen Edmonds, PRL, Brooks Brothers. Those items are literally 90% of my wardrobe. Has been since the 70's, will be until the end. I do realize that you said "some". And I certainly didn't take offense to your comment. Gentleman may disagree on policy, but they should always agree manners. Be well my sartorial sidekicks.
Hmm. In principle this makes sense based on how the words themselves, but I don't think this actually captures the trend. The "old money" trend seems to be dominated by pastels and neutral tones (beige, coffee, pale greens, etc.) while the "quiet luxury" trend does not seem constrained by the color palette. However, independent of the aesthetic of the trend, this is actually the reverse in real life.
Gucci is loud fashion, not quiet luxury. They used to be old money and I guess you can say in some ways they are, but unfortunately they stepped into the high fashion industry
Yeah frankly I don't know that much about mens fashion to be honest (I currently just wear jeans and generic t shirts with no or minimal branding because I don't want to just be a walking billboard for a half a dozen different brands...) but it really got me scratching my head when I saw gucci on this list, to me brands like gucci and versace are barely even a step above stuff like zara or supreme, basically just overpriced fast fashion slop for obnoxious flexers, if they at least at some point made actual decent quality items thats certainly news to me...
Of course old money brands 50 or 100 years ago could have been classed as quite luxury in their day. Rag and Bone might fall into the category of old money in 50 years time if they are still around.
But Old Money is a rebrand of Trad, right? Quiet Luxury is just another amorphous definition, but I think some people don't mean Old Money when they mean some other version of Modern Casual, etc. This is why I just call classic looks Preppy or Trad still, even if they aren't the best terms for some looks but at least aren't just new buzzwords for some of the same old stuff or whatever.
I probably wouldn't pay that much extra for a shirt, but then again, I probably wouldn't find much at someplace like Target that will be more elegant than functional to really pass for a high quality shirt. I guess first I would check the POLYESTER content amount and go from there?
Wait, now it's the unassuming one that's somehow MORE the status symbol? I thought the Old Money was trying to be the status symbol by buying brands and branded logo stuff like Polo Ralph Lauren [which I've never owned because, again, more Trad than OM in intent]................??? And this is why I'm not sure which parts to agree or disagree with except that more men should be willing to dress up more without worrying about getting labeled as Dandy by looking too flamboyant and all that. Insert Billy Joel lyrics here or later....
No, most of the Old Money fad is NOT because your dad went to that tailor. Your dad shopped at K-Mart or JCP and you want everyone to THINK you're from Old Stock Money. Duh. That's why they CAN'T AFFORD the quiet luxury clothing, which would more likely come from an old tailor than Ralph Lauren off-the-rack stuff.
Actually a hundred years is going back outside the envelope a smidge because most of the clothes fashionable in 1924 would look too costume today. More like around the 1940s thru early 60s to be safe or fair with SOME items being updates of holdovers, like Preppy rowing blazers or tennis sweaters and such. Nobody is wearing detachable collars with their club ties just to go out for lobster dinner, for instance.
No apologies, Antonio. Old money and quiet luxury is a long term thing. It has been there since forever. Regular folks are just not aware. You are doing exactly what you are supposed to, as a style guru.
I think of Quiet Luxury as an extension of the Grey Man style -- you want to blend in with the crowd but you're also okay with spending more money for quality clothing; you just don't want that quality clothing to make you stand out in a negative way. In regard to branding, I don't think Old Money should have any exterior branding, and Quiet Luxury should have mainly interior branding, but small exterior branding is acceptable. For that reason, I don't think Gucci belongs in _either_ category. I view them akin to Supreme: Obnoxious Rich (I know; them's fightin' words, but I said what I said 😜)
Sounds about right. I would say that there should likely be a THIRD category for show-off guys who want to flaunt the logos and such. I'm sure there's already a term that everyone is ignoring....
Aren't you just describing"regular" luxury? The way it is meant by funcion and appearance. Before extravagance and buffoonery started dominating the scene.
Gucci's loafers and non-flashy items, luggages fall into Old Money. While their other flashy items fall into regular runway fashion and stuff the "masses" buy. Burberry is such a brand as well, most of their non-flashy items such as the trench coat and basically anything dressy such as their suits, ties ect. fall into old money, however their flashy huge check patterns fall firmly into new money.
I am not one of the seven who doesn't like the old money videos. I think I like the old money style better. However, there is nothing wrong with quiet luxury. One area screams old money is virtually anything from Jermyn Street and Saville Row.
lol I am not sure if he took advantage of the Gucci Outlet nearby. Aeropostale was my favorite teenager brand along with American Eagles, Holister, etc. @@JamesRDavenport
lol I am not sure if he took advantage of the Gucci Outlet nearby. Aeropostale was my favorite teenager brand along with American Eagle, and Hollister. @@JamesRDavenport
Great video Mr. Centeno and your break down of what is similar and different between this two ideas was great! When you mentioned GUCCI since I am 50+ to me they are Old Money but when Tom Ford worked for them he made it modern which was a good thing. Thank you Sir for all the great content You and Your Team create!
One of the things I appreciate the most about Antonio is his authenticity, however I did not cherish the comment he did in the video saying we would not be influenced by someone's wearing expensive clothing because we are too smart, he knows very well that we would and that he would and that humans are not the paragons of reason that we think we are. And it felt a bit of feeding off our egos for like hunting. Regardless, great video as always Antonio, I will give you my like as customary; I just wanted to give you this feedback so you keep improving and producing good educational content.
I love both aesthetics and take heavy inspiration from both when it comes to conceiving outfits and acquiring garments for my forever expanding wardrobe. I've also taken the liberty of classifing some other menswear brands into either The Old Money category or The Quiet Luxury category respectively: R.M. Williams 🇦🇺 = Old Money M.J. Bale 🇦🇺 = Old Money Akubra Hats 🇦🇺 = Old Money Brothers at Otaa 🇦🇺 = Quiet Luxury Charles Tyrwhitt 🏴 = Old Money Rodd and Gunn 🇳🇿 = Quiet Luxury Suitsupply 🇳🇱 = Quiet Luxury Ralph Lauren 🇺🇲 = Old Money Hugo Boss 🇩🇪 = Old Money Politix 🇦🇺 = Quiet Luxury
Great video again, and an explanation between the two. Both are nice styles, and I'm guessing old money brands would be the least expensive, but still good quality. There's Charles Tyrwhitt from London that would probably fit under old money and Sunspel.
Re Charles Tyrwhitt; well, kind of. In style certainly. But the company was only founded in 1986, I guess capitalising on the rise of London as a financial centre and all the Yuppies that it created. So, in a way, more "New Money"? (I buy nearly all my shirts from them, plus a few from Marks and Spencer).
gucci is easy; old school money, the more 'trendy' pieces, will enter the families heirloom closets and become timeless pieces in another 25 years... xD
Old money is not an item. Old money is an attitude, a lifestyle based on upbringing which then shaped the person’s preferences whether it comes to the clothing, interior design, intellectual pursuit. Quiet luxury is always a physical item. So yes, these two are totally different things.
After speaking to women about this Quiet Luxury "trend" 🙄 (it's not a trend) I slightly empathised with them. Women are definitely pushed and pulled to jump though hoops to keep up with constantly changing womenswear trends to be their most desirable self, meanwhile, menswear trends have remained quite static for decades and so very slow to change as Antonio mentioned. That's why I have trouble understanding a man who says he can't keep up, _buddy, menswear moves at a glacial pace compared to womenswear, and you're telling me it's still too fast for you?_ 😅
Old money wears a lot more colours than the quiet luxury! The east coast old guard are all about their Nantucket red faded pants with navy blazer. ladies will wear colourful dresses and Kaftan. The Brits will have a lot of Tartan, plaid, colourful corduroy etc. also a lot of prints in both group
Maybe I’m getting old… finding it hard to watch you bounce around the video from left to right like a bird in a cage. You have great content, but becoming distracting to watch… unsubscribing 😢
I know several extremely wealthy people- and they dress like trash no joke on the daily- dress niceish for events but The only thing that gives it away is their car and their watches. This ‘trend’ is 🙄
To be honest I could like both and would consider both. I would be a hybrid between the two. So much of what you see especially in Florida is the exact opposite of these two.
When you focus on classic styles and quality materials, you won’t have to worry about artificially mimicking old money looks. Quiet luxury avoids recognition via logos but standout because of craftsmanship and sourcing of materials. Also, many brands like Turnbull & Asser, Lock & Co., RLPL and others could fall into both categories
A good exemple that shows the differences between Old Money and Queit Luxury can be exemplified between Ralph Lauren Polo (old money) and RL Polo Colonge Intense (quiet luxury). Booth are classics, and refined, but have their differences. Thats one way to ilustrate.
I don't know if this brand is quiet luxury but Peter Manning. I bought two pairs of their jeans, wear them on the job, get comments from coworkers how squard away I look and act. Then they had a heart attack over the price. " OMG that much on jeans?" Because they are well-made and I can!
I like watching James bond films and seeing clothes that would look perfect today, I've taken a pic of the screen and went out and built the outfit for myself. To be classy is to dress classic.
I've always heard the clothes make the man, dress for success I believe the man makes the clothes and his success. Eventually the new style will become old.
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The problem with a lot of the old money brands, like brooks Brothers, allen edmonds, polo, is that over the years,,manufacturing has shipped overseas and diminished quality has been creeping in over the years as a byproduct. Plus much to a lot of our chagrins most Americans don't dress for the occasion anymore. We have moved to athleisure over knowing what to wear for the appropriate occasion
@@hoverda Definitely! I've also noticed Brooks Brothers sizing has become very wonky, too tight or too loose or just unflattering. They still have some decent stuff it just never fits me properly unfortunately. Spent like $1,900 on a bunch of items in multiple sizes per item every single item went back unfortunately due to sizing.
I love both
Always find your videos very informative and timely 😊 This one was so right on for the season that I had to comment on it. The way you compartmentalize the different aspects of quiet luxury was so concise I felt my brain finally understood the concept. Kudos 2 U!
It's about personal quality, character and a sense of permanence that says the way to be and aspire to this to be someone of consequence.
Loro Piana - Quite luxury. Full integrated supply chain: Farm/Foothills, Mill, Factories and Shops. All ethically run.
*Quiet 😂
I try to ignore labels like "old money," "quiet luxury," "techwear," "formal," "athleisure," anything that ends in CORE 😂etc, and just try to consider learning about them to be "how to dress different ways."
Curious what about Burberry and Ermenegildo Zegna?
I am just a slob, but I have never had much trouble finding good quality products that don’t draw too much attention. Chances are, if it costs a lot of money and is flashy, it isn’t worth it.
I will say that I love my Ettinger wallet.
Surprised with Gucci considering some of gaudy, “trendy” clothes they are known for lately.
I guess I don't put Italian clothes in the same category as English or East Coast.
Neither preppy NOR tweed country gent stuff, so???
I love your jacket Antonio! 👍
Indeed
Hey, love your videos. One correction: discreet means subtle; discrete means separate.
I got it wrong on Belstaff. Darn.
Crockett and jones is the 👏 Also cool to see Acraterix on the list 👍 interesting addition
Any man who hates on the “old money” trend just wants justification to continue dressing like a child the rest of their lives aka me before I discovered how much more gratifying it is to not chase all these dumb street wear trends that fade out in a years time and leave you with a bunch of clothes that you felt guilted into buying
What do you think about brands like G- Star Raw and Armani Exchange?
Gucci has gone from "old money" to "loud luxury".
@@danjoredd
I agree, I have similar observations.
I guess I don't put Italian clothes in the same category as English or East Coast.
Neither preppy NOR tweed country gent stuff, so???
What about the brand 100 hands ?
Wonder if there is a style that is in the middle of these two styles. Enjoying quality (old money), with a minimalist touch (quiet luxury) yet is not spending an arm or leg for a shirt haha
Antonio what’s the piece of piano you use in the opening segment?
Erik Satie - Gnossienne no 1
Mr. Centeno, I doubt you will read this comment but, just in case, here I go. In theory, I should not be watching your videos for two good reasons:
A) I am not American. You are a product of American society and as such you reflect a lot of values and ideas which are uniquely American and, in many cases, do not apply to me for geographical as well as cultural reasons (I am Italian)
B) I am 65 years old; which means I do not have reasons to dress very nicely, as I would like to. My social life is almost non-existent and my friends, as excellent and knowledgeable as they are, do not care for sartorial elegance; therefore, if I go to a reunion dressed very smartly I would be a fool out-of-place.
So, why I am watching your videos? Because many of them are still relevant to me and, most importantly, because you are an excellent speaker; you are knowledgeable, articulate and, last but not least, eloquent. Wishing you all the best. Yours sincerely, Claudio
Good video
Those 7 or 8 people wear sandals with socks at the high rollers table.
I live when flake walk around with huge LV on the bag thinking they look “ luxury .” 😂 the real wealth is not easy to “ see “ but when u do see it you can tell. Think Cartier 10k bracelet. Look it up. Very subtle. Ninjas we love to advertise for the rich! 🤦🏽♂️😂😂
The more people make RUclips videos about quiet luxury, the louder it gets.
It's an amorphous term, anyway. You can afford extravagant brands or you can't.
BMW M8 competition
Have better thins to do....
Old Money = Ivy Style = J. Press = Brooks Brothers, Alden, Allen Edmonds, Tony Lama, Dan Post
Quiet Style = Custom Suits made in Italy, Bangkok, London, Pattaya
Spot-on. Ive league is the the first thing that comes to mind when thinking about old money
Gucci - Old Money? Are you kidding me? Maybe the House of Gucci used to be, but they have since sold their soul to become the House of Bling! No respectable Old Money icon would be caught dead wearing anything with a Gucci logo! Gucci isn't even .New Money - it's Wanna Be.
"Quiet Luxury" is literally just another name for haute couture.
Yes, it's pretty much all rebranding by young people who think they've invented all new styles or something by combining elements that largely don't go together as well as they'd think or like?
Nothing better to start the day, than a new video from Antonio and a cup of coffee 🧐☕️
Please don’t stop making these “old money” vids. Keep up the great work, you’re helping us men develop into much better versions of ourselves.
Leatherneck, I really appreciate the 100% effort you put in passing on hard won knowledge. I first learned of the word sartorial splendor while reading W. E. B. Griffin's Brotherhood of War series. Two army officers were discussing an upcoming gala and that the Marines stationed in post war Germany would be there, quite possibly in boat cloak.
It was at this time in the late 1980s as a young, snot-nosed LCpl that I decided to step up my game with what and when I could afford it.
Now that I'm 60 I'm looking to scale back a bit, ditch the over half of my wardrobe that is outdated and never coming back, but remain reasonably fashionable as I reenter the dating scene.
This Devil Dog might be old, but with your help he's still learning some new fashion tricks .
Thank you
and
Semper Fidelis!
I read a ton of WEB Griffin while I was in Germany in the 90’s! Loved it!
I am definitely not Old Money, but after watching this I could be Quiet Luxury as I like the classic lines and straight forward look. I will add a pocket square and Lapel pin to round out my outfits also.
What? People are out there waiting 80-90 years testing jeans on the masses before adding them to their wardrobe? Seriously?
I never wear jeans and am from a wealthy family. I did feel like it would be inauthentic.
@@granthuling3235
You are depriving yourself of pleasure and comfort unnecessarily.
I would say this was not true. Also, jeans are completely overrated and unnecessary for many of the people who wear them daily even if they HAVE "labor" jobs.
@@Highland_PaddyI wear work pants as a tradesman. Jeans are casual.
@@jareknowak8712
Chinos are way more comfortable and look nicer (especially with stretch). Good ones even feel as comfortable as sweat pants, but you still look sharp in them. Jeans can't compete with that
Love this topic. I always dressed very traditionally (vests, topcoats, chino's, leather dress shoes, etc.) and indeed it always upset some progressives. Nietzsche calls their criticisms sIave morality.
I'm confused on what that means. Can you clarify please?
🤔 Well it's never upset this pragmatic Progressive. I've been dressing straight Ivy my entire life.
Alden, Allen Edmonds, PRL, Brooks Brothers. Those items are literally 90% of my wardrobe. Has been since the 70's, will be until the end.
I do realize that you said "some". And I certainly didn't take offense to your comment.
Gentleman may disagree on policy, but they should always agree manners.
Be well my sartorial sidekicks.
Hmm. In principle this makes sense based on how the words themselves, but I don't think this actually captures the trend. The "old money" trend seems to be dominated by pastels and neutral tones (beige, coffee, pale greens, etc.) while the "quiet luxury" trend does not seem constrained by the color palette. However, independent of the aesthetic of the trend, this is actually the reverse in real life.
Antonio, what about Ralph Lauren ( Blue Label 🏷️ ) Old Money / Quiet Luxury ?
anything with a small logo is old money, no logo especially purple label is quite luxury
Gucci is loud fashion, not quiet luxury. They used to be old money and I guess you can say in some ways they are, but unfortunately they stepped into the high fashion industry
Yeah frankly I don't know that much about mens fashion to be honest (I currently just wear jeans and generic t shirts with no or minimal branding because I don't want to just be a walking billboard for a half a dozen different brands...) but it really got me scratching my head when I saw gucci on this list, to me brands like gucci and versace are barely even a step above stuff like zara or supreme, basically just overpriced fast fashion slop for obnoxious flexers, if they at least at some point made actual decent quality items thats certainly news to me...
Of course old money brands 50 or 100 years ago could have been classed as quite luxury in their day. Rag and Bone might fall into the category of old money in 50 years time if they are still around.
But Old Money is a rebrand of Trad, right? Quiet Luxury is just another amorphous definition, but I think some people don't mean Old Money when they mean some other version of Modern Casual, etc. This is why I just call classic looks Preppy or Trad still, even if they aren't the best terms for some looks but at least aren't just new buzzwords for some of the same old stuff or whatever.
I probably wouldn't pay that much extra for a shirt, but then again, I probably wouldn't find much at someplace like Target that will be more elegant than functional to really pass for a high quality shirt. I guess first I would check the POLYESTER content amount and go from there?
Wait, now it's the unassuming one that's somehow MORE the status symbol? I thought the Old Money was trying to be the status symbol by buying brands and branded logo stuff like Polo Ralph Lauren [which I've never owned because, again, more Trad than OM in intent]................??? And this is why I'm not sure which parts to agree or disagree with except that more men should be willing to dress up more without worrying about getting labeled as Dandy by looking too flamboyant and all that. Insert Billy Joel lyrics here or later....
I want LESS technology. Weave in some WOOL and we're done. Or some linen or cotton, too.
No, most of the Old Money fad is NOT because your dad went to that tailor. Your dad shopped at K-Mart or JCP and you want everyone to THINK you're from Old Stock Money. Duh. That's why they CAN'T AFFORD the quiet luxury clothing, which would more likely come from an old tailor than Ralph Lauren off-the-rack stuff.
Actually a hundred years is going back outside the envelope a smidge because most of the clothes fashionable in 1924 would look too costume today. More like around the 1940s thru early 60s to be safe or fair with SOME items being updates of holdovers, like Preppy rowing blazers or tennis sweaters and such. Nobody is wearing detachable collars with their club ties just to go out for lobster dinner, for instance.
Personally I'd flip Gucci and Cucinelli. Great video nonetheless!
No apologies, Antonio. Old money and quiet luxury is a long term thing. It has been there since forever. Regular folks are just not aware. You are doing exactly what you are supposed to, as a style guru.
I think of Quiet Luxury as an extension of the Grey Man style -- you want to blend in with the crowd but you're also okay with spending more money for quality clothing; you just don't want that quality clothing to make you stand out in a negative way. In regard to branding, I don't think Old Money should have any exterior branding, and Quiet Luxury should have mainly interior branding, but small exterior branding is acceptable. For that reason, I don't think Gucci belongs in _either_ category. I view them akin to Supreme: Obnoxious Rich (I know; them's fightin' words, but I said what I said 😜)
Sounds about right. I would say that there should likely be a THIRD category for show-off guys who want to flaunt the logos and such. I'm sure there's already a term that everyone is ignoring....
Aren't you just describing"regular" luxury? The way it is meant by funcion and appearance. Before extravagance and buffoonery started dominating the scene.
pretty much. buzzwords a bit, but the lack of branding being the new trend to replace the gaudy oversize branding
Old Money: Ermenegildo Zegna, Stefano Ricci, Luciano Barbera, Cesare Attolini, Brioni, Canali
Those 7 or 8 people don't need to show up and show out looking good on a regular basis lol 🤷🏿♂️
My favorite suit, a purple three piece suit with a double-breasted waistcoat, definitely is neither.
You missed the classic old money Ralph Lauren
Gucci's loafers and non-flashy items, luggages fall into Old Money. While their other flashy items fall into regular runway fashion and stuff the "masses" buy. Burberry is such a brand as well, most of their non-flashy items such as the trench coat and basically anything dressy such as their suits, ties ect. fall into old money, however their flashy huge check patterns fall firmly into new money.
I am not one of the seven who doesn't like the old money videos. I think I like the old money style better. However, there is nothing wrong with quiet luxury.
One area screams old money is virtually anything from Jermyn Street and Saville Row.
Isn't Old Money Style... Quiet Luxury?🤔
Not if they’re Nantucket reds, for example.
Old money and quiet luxury are minimalism with extra steps
Even the janitor in my building has Gucci and an Apple watch. He looks luxurious and old money.
You must have a nice pad then. They still wear Carhartt, Aeropostale and those giant heraldry-grade giant logo polos here!
lol I am not sure if he took advantage of the Gucci Outlet nearby. Aeropostale was my favorite teenager brand along with American Eagles, Holister, etc. @@JamesRDavenport
lol I am not sure if he took advantage of the Gucci Outlet nearby. Aeropostale was my favorite teenager brand along with American Eagle, and Hollister. @@JamesRDavenport
I was literally watching videos about this comparison yesterday and now this video comes out.
What sorcery is this?
It's called BUZZWORDS, but nobody seems to completely agree on the definitions.
I’m surprised Armani didn’t come up. That has old money all over it.
Hello from Michigan. Thanks for the good tips and opinions!
Been following 2 years now and looking forward to see the new trends over time.
Grand Rapids area here!!!
@@quickplaya Why?
Gucci? Easy loud luxury money trap (well their loafers may be good but not worth it)
I guess I don't put Italian clothes in the same category as English or East Coast.
Neither preppy NOR tweed country gent stuff, so???
Great video Mr. Centeno and your break down of what is similar and different between this two ideas was great! When you mentioned GUCCI since I am 50+ to me they are Old Money but when Tom Ford worked for them he made it modern which was a good thing. Thank you Sir for all the great content You and Your Team create!
One of the things I appreciate the most about Antonio is his authenticity, however I did not cherish the comment he did in the video saying we would not be influenced by someone's wearing expensive clothing because we are too smart, he knows very well that we would and that he would and that humans are not the paragons of reason that we think we are. And it felt a bit of feeding off our egos for like hunting. Regardless, great video as always Antonio, I will give you my like as customary; I just wanted to give you this feedback so you keep improving and producing good educational content.
I love both aesthetics and take heavy inspiration from both when it comes to conceiving outfits and acquiring garments for my forever expanding wardrobe.
I've also taken the liberty of classifing some other menswear brands into either The Old Money category or The Quiet Luxury category respectively:
R.M. Williams 🇦🇺 = Old Money
M.J. Bale 🇦🇺 = Old Money
Akubra Hats 🇦🇺 = Old Money
Brothers at Otaa 🇦🇺 = Quiet Luxury
Charles Tyrwhitt 🏴 = Old Money
Rodd and Gunn 🇳🇿 = Quiet Luxury
Suitsupply 🇳🇱 = Quiet Luxury
Ralph Lauren 🇺🇲 = Old Money
Hugo Boss 🇩🇪 = Old Money
Politix 🇦🇺 = Quiet Luxury
Great video again, and an explanation between the two. Both are nice styles, and I'm guessing old money brands would be the least expensive, but still good quality. There's Charles Tyrwhitt from London that would probably fit under old money and Sunspel.
Re Charles Tyrwhitt; well, kind of. In style certainly. But the company was only founded in 1986, I guess capitalising on the rise of London as a financial centre and all the Yuppies that it created. So, in a way, more "New Money"? (I buy nearly all my shirts from them, plus a few from Marks and Spencer).
Yes absolutely table manners , something I am trying to refine for various situations and events
gucci is easy; old school money, the more 'trendy' pieces, will enter the families heirloom closets and become timeless pieces in another 25 years... xD
Old money is not an item. Old money is an attitude, a lifestyle based on upbringing which then shaped the person’s preferences whether it comes to the clothing, interior design, intellectual pursuit. Quiet luxury is always a physical item. So yes, these two are totally different things.
After speaking to women about this Quiet Luxury "trend" 🙄 (it's not a trend) I slightly empathised with them. Women are definitely pushed and pulled to jump though hoops to keep up with constantly changing womenswear trends to be their most desirable self, meanwhile, menswear trends have remained quite static for decades and so very slow to change as Antonio mentioned. That's why I have trouble understanding a man who says he can't keep up, _buddy, menswear moves at a glacial pace compared to womenswear, and you're telling me it's still too fast for you?_ 😅
Old money wears a lot more colours than the quiet luxury! The east coast old guard are all about their Nantucket red faded pants with navy blazer. ladies will wear colourful dresses and Kaftan. The Brits will have a lot of Tartan, plaid, colourful corduroy etc.
also a lot of prints in both group
Big fan of Arteryx for outdoor clothing.
Allen Edmonds & Brooks Brothers are also one of go toos !
Church's are a lot more expensive than C&J btw
Tom Ford is high fashion and very boxy unfortunately, you can tell it’s an American designer.
Can someone please tell me what the background song was at the beginning??
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Maybe I’m getting old… finding it hard to watch you bounce around the video from left to right like a bird in a cage. You have great content, but becoming distracting to watch… unsubscribing 😢
what about Hugo Boss, old money or quiet luxury?
You definitely missed. The one and only. Ralph Lauren. The best. 😊
I don't want to look rich, just like the classic, elegant style.
Poor people can't afford classic, elegant clothes. Hence the blue jeans..............
100% missed Loro Piana from quiet luxury.
I know several extremely wealthy people- and they dress like trash no joke on the daily- dress niceish for events but The only thing that gives it away is their car and their watches. This ‘trend’ is 🙄
To be honest I could like both and would consider both. I would be a hybrid between the two. So much of what you see especially in Florida
is the exact opposite of these two.
When you focus on classic styles and quality materials, you won’t have to worry about artificially mimicking old money looks. Quiet luxury avoids recognition via logos but standout because of craftsmanship and sourcing of materials. Also, many brands like Turnbull & Asser, Lock & Co., RLPL and others could fall into both categories
A good exemple that shows the differences between Old Money and Queit Luxury can be exemplified between Ralph Lauren Polo (old money) and RL Polo Colonge Intense (quiet luxury). Booth are classics, and refined, but have their differences. Thats one way to ilustrate.
I don't know if this brand is quiet luxury but Peter Manning. I bought two pairs of their jeans, wear them on the job, get comments from coworkers how squard away I look and act. Then they had a heart attack over the price. " OMG that much on jeans?" Because they are well-made and I can!
Most Americans now dress for every occasion as though they're going to mow the lawn.
I like watching James bond films and seeing clothes that would look perfect today, I've taken a pic of the screen and went out and built the outfit for myself. To be classy is to dress classic.
My clothing budget is into watches.
There are more than seven or eight of us that are tired of these old money videos i guarantee.
I've always heard the clothes make the man, dress for success I believe the man makes the clothes and his success. Eventually the new style will become old.
Antonio, at first blush I put Gucci in Quiet Luxury. You make a good case for Gucci to be considered an Old Money brand.
Here in the UK, we consider Gucci as gaudy new money and nasty toot.
Arcteryx has a quiet luxury line, but their mainline is Outdoor Technical clothing which I would not describe as luxury.
I got them all right, do I get a free Gucci belt or something ? (Jk)
Very nice job Antonio. You explained these two worlds perfectly.
Thank you for watching!
One rule is that if people remember what you were wearing you were not sartorially correct.
But are you man enough to wear a codpiece in old money fashion? I think not.
Enclothed cognition = wearing a JLC and knowing that the guy wearing a Rolex has been shafted financially!!!
Did you ever get a mug shot taken in Fulton County, GA?
Lmao, people are cringe tbh. Dress well but don’t be a sheep.
hey man. love your content. please do a video about old money brands from India for your Indian followers. Thanks.
Arcterx is sports apparel, it's not street clothing.. lol
always enjoy your show.other brands to mention,Ralph lauren, Alistair shoes,L.L. bean for a outdoor vibe, just to name a few
Ralph Lauren is overpriced as hell you can get a nice polo for like $30 online instead of paying $100 for some brand name