The Perfect White Tee | Who Makes The Best T-Shirt?
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- Опубликовано: 13 окт 2024
- The white t-shirt is arguably the most basic, staple item everyone has in their wardrobe, yet I find it so hard to find one that fits perfectly. In this video, we compare different white t-shirts ranging from $3 t-shirts all the way up to $85.
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T-shirts worn:
1. Primark: bit.ly/2R467pN
2. H&M cotton t-shirt: bit.ly/2Cq9gbc
3. H&M regular fit: bit.ly/2T0PrN9
4. Uniqlo: bit.ly/2T38YfI
5. and 6. Asket: apprl.com/al/4...
7. COS: bit.ly/2CsgWty
8. APC: bit.ly/2QMWsV1
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Shot with:
Canon 6D MK II: amzn.to/2COFiyW
Canon 24-70mm f/4.0 Lens: amzn.to/2RUFctW
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Hard to choose but I like that white one the best
I would agree.
😂
@Chad Conley That's a chad right there! :D
@Chad Conley nothings says I'm Chad more than that comment
True tho what about the off white one?
I just watched 14 minutes of a guy - differently sized and built to me - find the best t-shirt cut for him.
You're right, I should've talked less about how the t-shirts fit me and more about the construction and the fabric of each garment. Sorry about that. First time I've made this kind of "review" video, I'll take note for next time!
@@TimDessaint haha I actually still enjoyed it
@@TimDessaint But it's still a nice video though, keep going!
still spending 14 mins on this in June 2019
King Louis!! Don't wear a belt and it won't show
Ugh finally someone who understands
Haha I got you mate!
Gw kira gw doang yg mikir kek gini
StrippedAPE njas bro kaos putih mang ribet
Tim Dessaint thanks man, really need this video
Lu lagi make yg mana sekarang bro? gw gt-man njir sama merek hicoop
Asket: offers 15 sizes
Tim: "I'd like one between the two"
Not gonna lie, not the video I was looking for nor needed atm but your editing and voice and everything is great! You just got a new subscriber :)
Thank you Jorgen! I appreciate you. Welcome to the family 😊
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I would love to see a remake of this video on durability and longevity of these tshirts! See if they lose some softness or anything after a few months of wear and washes!
I can give you an update right now:
- The Uniqlo t-shirts I've worn for several years and they're still in good condition, with maybe a slight loss of softness
- The Asket t-shirts I've washed several times and they're in perfect condition, no loss of softness as of now
The other brands I returned.
Uniqlo all day fam! I have atleast 10+ tees from Uniqlo.
You know it! 👌
is it possible to have more than 10+ tees?!
@@owentaylor7215 it is when you live in a country where it's summer 24/7
Ayy famm
Hello fellas, do uniqlo sizes vary depending on t shirt colors? Thank you in advance!
"To be honest, been workin out a bit, gettin a bit of arms"
Hell yeah dude
Haha trying to bulk up over here 😅
Now can you find the perfect black t shirt
bryan solares cK
Haha, I'm up for the challenge!
@@TimDessaint also black hoodies! Please
I hear you Jovany!
cotton heritage mc1050 black
It's funny 'cause I keep searching for the same topic through the internet over and over again every two or three months trying to find The Best White T-Shirt and I've tried around 5 or 7 different brands until I got here... I live in Mexico City and it's a pain in the ass finding something quite good (not to mention most of the brands you mentioned doesn't have retailers in here and ordering online is an odyssey) but after watching this video I'm convinced about trying the Uniqlo and the Asket ones. Thank you so much for the video and I hope your channel hits at least 100k in the next month... you totally deserve it!
Glad I was able to help! And thank you Carlos, I really appreciate the support. Let me know how it goes with the Uniqlo and Asket t-shirts 🙂
¿En dónde encontraste uniqlo?
@@optimicist7774 Hola, no lo encuentro en México, pido por internet para que llegue a casa de un amigo en EU y me lo mandan de allá... fue la manera más cómoda y viable que encontré.
You're my exact size and height and understand exactly what I want in a basic white T, subscribed
I got you bro!
Uniqlo supima tee.
Say no more.
You know it 👌
thats not a tee, thats quality in a form of tee
Starting buying these a year ago, not bought another t shirt since. Good on the shoulders and arms perfect length cannot be beaten on price!
They are good but the old ones were even better
I own a couple uniqlos in hard colours. They age decently but they don't fit amazingly. I have some shirts from Scotch and Soda and the fit difference is glaring, but they price between 4x to 8x as much
I LOVE THIS CHANNEL!❤️ feels minimalistic and really high quality!🤩
Thank you! Happy to hear that 😊
We are same height, weight and build 😂 so this is very useful video for me haha, I’ll definitely be trying Uniqlo! And I def feel for you with finding clothing that fits, short slender guys don’t get much love
Definitely give Uniqlo and/or Asket a try! Great brands for us short slim guys.
Haha this video would help so many people. I know I would have appreciated this video a lot back when I was hunting for the perfect T-shirt.
Have you found it?
@@TimDessaint Haha. The answer is no. It was impossible.
My style even changed before I could find "it". I no longer wanted the perfect fitting, perfect length T-shirt.
What I wear now (or at least during the summer) are thick oversized T-shirts. I cut the bottom with a pair of scissors, then roll it a bit to give it a raw hem and slightly cropped look.
The closest I found back then was the same ones you wear, the Uniqlo Supima. lol
Haha always back to those Uniqlo Supimas! Let me know if you ever find "it" 😉
HM shirts are always so long, damn short boys can't get a break, gotta try those uniqlos
They are! Making us short guys struggle 😒 You should definitely try the Uniqlo or Asket ones, they know how to get the length right 👌
And I find them too think. You may wish to give Hanes Beefy T a try. I am quite short in height myself, and I quite like their quality and cut.
Bro just throw it in the dryer after a wash or two and you’ll be good
Uniqlo an Asian brand, hence the sizing
Bairefined t-shirts has height category for the right length t-shirt!
Nice work, the COS tee looks great
Thanks Eddie! I appreciate it!
Eddie Win I have one and I’m propably going to buy another, and use it for my own prints. If you are looking for oversized/ heavy tee, I recommend
For me, I love the Uniqlo U Crew Neck Short Sleeve T-Shirt. Feels heavy just the way I like, i am not from the state, so I'm not sure about the price, but here in Japan costs 1000 yen which is equivalent to 9us dollars? And I think it's the best T-Shirt for the price! Fits good, feels good, many varieties of colours, and very reasonable price!! Love the product, it is the go to T-Shirt for me👌👌
Totally agree that the Uniqlo U crew neck is really nice! I kind of regret not featuring it as well in the video.
for people who like thick and heavy tees, its pretty great. but if you want something lightweight and flowy, uniqlo's supima cotton kills it. either way you can never go wrong with uniqlo
Also in Germany, I prefer the Uniqlo
Great video! As someone who is also your height, It has been awful finding a great fitting white t-shirt. I went custom and used Son of a Tailor. Its literally the best! If you buy 5 tees, its a great deal
Oh wow, didn't know custom made t-shirt were a thing! That's amazing!
+1 SOT is sick - can take a while to get your measurements right tho
Before i watch the video, i have to say, I have one DKNY white tee that my wife bought from Marshalls probably 15 years ago, that is the best quality I've ever seen. It is thin as paper but strong and soft...really hope to find more of them.
For me the Pull and Bear's regular fit working the best so far. As I know its kinda the same price like an H&M shirt but it has a better quality.
Thank you for your video. You should try a t-shirt from the Uniqlo U collection, it is made of harder and more reliable cotton.
Thanks for watching! I do have one from the U collection, love the fit 👌 I know I didn't include it in the video but had to make choices 🙃
Your cinematic work is great ! Good job
Thank you Adam! Really appreciate it 🙏
how come you didnt use music from Plain White Tee's?? lol, just saaaaayn
Haha true, true.
Thousand miles a way but tonight we are Litty
not worth the copyright strike
I've been DYING for a video like this and I'm glad it finally came from someone who I actually like watching. thanks for the vid
Thank you! Much love and happy NY 😊
PS: don't hesitate to reach out to me (on RUclips or Instagram) if you have video ideas that you'd really like to see.
Thank you for taking the time to post this content. Uniqlo is awesome! would have never stumbled across it with out your very useful video, have been stuck between HnM and the high end Tees.
Thank you for taking the time to watch! I appreciate you 🙂
I learn and enjoy every time I watch your videos. Thank you!
Thanks man! Glad you've been enjoying my videos 🙂
I found your channel a few weeks ago and have ripping through your content. It’s excellent and your library depth is amazing. thanks!
I'm so happy that i stumbled on this channel. Really love your style bro! I'm five foot six so shopping for tshirts is a hassle for me. Lately I started taking them to a tailor to fix the lengths
Thank you very much! Glad you enjoy the content 😊
I love the Weekday oversized tees and the UNIQLO ones with the long sleeves
Sitting here in my t-shirt from a Costco multi-pack.
No shame in that man! Whatever fits well :)
@@TimDessaint prolly doesn't fit well tho
@@riverbakey You'd be surprised.
Kirkland shirts are great good quality and handle the wash good. Good collar too.
Keep it down only the real know about the Costco T’s
For me, ill also go with Uniqlo airism and supima plain white shirt, for its fit and comfort it brings to me.
Guys in the UK🇬🇧
The best Tee is the basic white Tee from M&S for £6, seriously good quality and slim fit option👌
Try Muji, so far best quality I've found in shirts. Good texture, not too thick or too thin. Doesn't stretch after washing. I find shirts from Uniqlo tend to fray or loose their form around the neck after a few washes. :(
Maybe White shirt next? I have been searching for one. I am about the same size as you and COS fits exactly that! Funny, felt like looking at a mirror.
Haha body type twins 🙃 Dress shirts are even harder I feel! But yeah I'll look into doing something about that.
I agree Uniqlo makes the best fitting cheap t shirts, like u said they do wear our quick but u can just start using that as a gym shirt then buy a new one since they’re so cheap haha. I actually like when the wear out and break in too, Uniqlo tees break in nice, gets comfier and love the faded look on black tees imo
I love this idea, but I actually have lots of white/black t shirts for different uses. Uniqlo for example has their airism and heattech (summer and winter) and then you've got your oversize or drop shoulder for when you're wearing it as the only layer, and then more fitted tees for when it's to go under a dress shirt or jumper etc etc. So really it's hard to make a video like this
Oh yeah for sure, I also have different t-shirts for different uses, I don't think there's a one-size-fits-all in terms of t-shirts. I just wanted to make this video because the storyline of "hunting for the perfect t-shirt" was appealing to me, and I wanted to see what I could make out of it.
My go to basic white T is from Topman. It has been my all-time staple for more than 10 years! But I might give COS a try! It looks dope on you (in my opinion!)
If you like the oversized look you should def give COS a try. Look for "bonded cotton t-shirt" on their website though, not the basic one.
Great video Tim I personally love the Uniqlo Supima t-shirt because it just feels amazing. Ive come across Asket and have been thinking about purchasing a shirt for a while, it’s just hard to justify spending that much when I can buy multiple Supima shirts. Might have to do it after watching this video.
Thank you Solomon! Glad you enjoyed the video 😊 I hear you, Asket is definitely more expensive but worth it if you want that improved quality of the fabric. Construction wise the Uniqlo supima cotton actually holds up nicely from past experience, but Asket uses higher quality cotton.
I honestly find Carhart pocket tees are the best, they're about £30 so somewhere in the mid-range but absolutely worth it 👌🏻
Thank you for the recommendation Phil! I'll check them out 🙂
40 seconds in and this editing is blowing me away.
Great job bud :)
Thanks Chase! Really appreciate it! Hope you enjoyed the rest of the video 🙂
This bout to go crazy viral for no absolute reason
I'm just a bit shorter than you, I can't find anything better than Uniqlo for my builds, I'm happy to buy extras for the year to achieve the best aesthetic.
It's a great brand for us short dudes!
Your eye for details will take this channel far. Keep posting the quality content, Tim!
Emerson! Thank you, means a lot 🙏
Y’all tripping H&M white tees fit perfect for me at least but overall Uniqlo has the best that I’ve tried out
The nicest plain white tee I have is from Dries van Noten, but for all the people with your build, Japanese denim brands like Samurai, Full count denim and Momotaro would be worth considering. They do some ridiculously high quality, super thick and heavy weight basic tees that are basically cut to your body shape
That's good to know! Thanks for the suggestions Andrew 🙂
Not sure how I got here but subbed instantly. That cos looked great
Oh thanks Mario! Welcome to the crew!
I was thinking about this topic for the longest, and lo and behold, this man comes to save the day. definitely subbing!
Glad to hear you found the right video! Welcome to my channel 😊
This video: *exists*
Moistcritikal: "finally a worthy opponent!"
3 years later, have you considered a follow up to take a look at other contenders like Arket (Premium H&M brand), Colourful Standard and maybe some luxury options like Sunspel.
Essentials Tee is the way to go
Anyone who wants quality similar to Uniqlo use Intissimi Uomo, used this brand when visiting family in Italy and I’ve been buying the tops ever since. Supine cotton tees are well priced
Your chinos look sick. You should probably do a review about the best chinos. BTW im 5"7 and 60 kg, helps tremendously.
Thanks man! I actually have something about chinos in the works!
Oh wow we be body shape twins haha 😅
Love how you placed the changing light from red to green to the sound at around 1:20.
Great video!! Like you said, fit really depends on each person. So this doesnt help everyone but I might follow you and do the same. Buy like 10 tee and return the ones i dont like
Thanks man! Yeah there's no better test than trying them on yourself 🙂 Let me know how it goes!
From the video it does look like the one that fits you best is the Uniqlo. One of the main issues I find with t-shirts is the unnecessarily huge neck hole, ie. the H&M one @ 4:00. I myself got a Uniqlo yesterday, size XL fits me pretty much perfectly (6' 1", 212 pounds).
Uniqlo supima tees are definitely my go-to for the price/quality/fit you get. I feel you with the huge neckline! That or the unnecessarily tight neckline too.
You've got some great looking shot in this. Nice! Thanks for the advice too
Thank you John, I appreciate it!
Just found my favorite fashion channel.
Thank you so much! You flatter me 🙏
Where are your pants from? Hope you do a similar video on casual pants!
They ones I'm wearing are the relaxed ankle-length trousers from Uniqlo. I'll definitely do something about pants soon 😊
Great video,if I may ask,what brand made the polo shirt you were wearing in the beginning of your video?it fits great.
New to the channel; very nicely done. I've subbed. Happy New Year! Cheers!
Thanks Ben! I appreciate you 😊 Happy New Year!
If you never brought H&M’s premium cotton t you should definitely pick one up. I don’t think they have these in their stores but at 17$ online and 24$ for the the pique premium t. It is hands down the best feeling looking t shirt I have ever owned. I’ve got more expensive shirts from Ralph Lauren, Dillards and Arnie Paque that don’t match in look and affordability. Give them a try you won’t look back.
Pro club heavy weight regular white tee is perfect
I know it's been 4 years but imo the best white shirt ist the new: "not from Paris madame" from drôle de monsieur, it's oversized but not too much like palm angels, Balenciaga etc... It hast a round crew neck but not too high so it's not going to get wavy (?) around the neck, it's 100% cotton, feels amazingly smooth and doesn't wrinkle after washing, i just love it! Try for yourself, and no I'm not sponsored by them :D
Awesome! Makes me feel less bad about not being able to afford the pricier brands.
There's no need to feel bad for that man! To each his budget 👌
I really enjoy and love the chill vibe your channel gives.
Thanks Drei! Much love!
Hey Tim, big fan and recent subscriber! Thanks for sharing your size as I’m very similar so I have a much better idea on the fits. Love your videos, keep’em coming!!
MANGO Sustainable cotton basic t-shirt. 100% cotton, 13 EUR, never looked back.It's perfect. Grey is also amazing
90s: CLOTHES ARE TOO BIG
NOW: CLOTHES ARE TOO SMALL
Eiichiro Oda Oda get back to your Manga man come on now!
pro club is amazing..one think i cannot accept is the crew neck collars that distort over a few washes..trust me, buy one and come back and comment,I am in love with them...they are superior
Pro Clubs never fail 🔥
Hakeem Fairweather clicked on this vid just to find a comment like this. #TeamProClub
Facts 💯
Until you wash em lol
My favourite is the COS but the APC looks quite elegant tucked in - I'd wear it out for dinner. For an everyday t-shirt, I'd go with the Uniqlo.
That's exactly how I felt about the APC! One of those tees you can dress up tucked in with a blazer or something.
Great video as usual my man! Knew the asket would win!(Sort of, just didn't fit your body type maybe try xs long or S short?). For me as 6'5" 200lbs L long fits almost perfectly, just to give another example. Hard to beat it at any price, and i have yet to feel or own a better feeling t-shirt. The only ones that might be better is if you go for 3sixteen heavyweight(if you want that type of tshirt) heard it's among the best/the best available and is known for being short. Maybe velva sheen too?
Another well reputed brand is Wolf vs Goat, small one man operation but makes some of the best t-shirts money could buy in usual fabrics and colors. Sells out almost instanly. There's also the many Japanese brands like iron heart, buzz rickson etc. if you have Fuck you money. I think some of these brands can be found at decent prices on Japanese yahoo or whatever they use. These brands also makes among the best sweatshirts/flannels etc available as well.
@@TimDessaint I meant to write UNusual fabrics and colors about WvG*. But yea, no personal experience with it, but it seems very reasonably priced too for what you get.
i think one of the things you have to realise is that t-shirts are classically, undergarments. i'd say for the weird h&m, asket in longer length and apc, that longer length is less to do with your proportions and more to do that they were possibly cut in mind of being tucked into tailored trousers. good video though, really like the cut of that xs asket which is a whole lot more modern and thus lends well to being worn by itself. have you ever tried sunspel's t-shirts ?
I think the times where the main use of a t-shirt was as an undergarment has long passed. Not saying people don't use it that way anymore, just that it is much more common to use it as a layer on its own, and while many brands still do make undershirts, when they do they will generally market it as just that, an undershirt (contrarily to a t-shirt). In this case, the H&M and A.P.C t-shirts I bought were clearly marketed as t-shirts and not undershirts. Therefore I believe it is simply a case of those brands catering to men of taller proportions than me, at least for these specific t-shirt designs.
Glad you enjoyed the video nonetheless, the Asket t-shirt was definitely one of my favourites! Never tried Sunspel before.
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Been wearing high quality tees for 20 years.. #1 "galaxy"
#2 "gemrock"
#3 "ibs"
you can buy these by the case and the price is right !! YOURE WELCOME
Hey Tim, just stumbled upon this gem (and of course your channel as a whole) and like to say awesome job :) I'm rocking just about the same height as you are so your vids are heaps helpful. Already a fan and looking forward to more!
Thank you so much! Glad you like my videos 😊 Short bros unite!
I've been wearing the Hanes x Karla white t-shirts for a little while now, highly recommend
Good to know, thanks for the recommendation man!
I always buy my white tshirts at Forever21 men's section size XS, 'cause 1 they are comfy, 2 they just go down straight (I hate curves), 3 they are a lot cheaper than women's shirt! LOL SA's would always ask me if I'm buying it for my boyfriend. I'm single AF. And I be like, ahhh nope for me actually. I always get weird looks. 😂
Hey if it fits it fits! 🙂
I have noticed that guys t-shirts are made with better materials than female t-shirts.
Cecilia Joseph true, when it comes to women it seems brands are laughing all the way to the bank... In the name of softness and drape they give us cheaper synthetic materials that are sheer and thin. 😑
Tim, how did the tees fit after a couple of washes? I would think that H&M tees would shrink quite a bit and the more expensive tees would shrink less. I think the Uniqlo was the best bang for the buck. For a good heavyweight similar fit to the Uniqlo try Kirkland tees from Costco or Amazon.
Uniqlo and Asket fit very well after a couple of washes. The worse was Primark, which completely lost its shape.
Thank you for the recommendations man! 🙂
I've been lead to believe at 28 years of being alive. there is not such thing as a perfect white t shirt lol. btw I enjoyed the video
Haha a man can dream!
Tim Dessaint maybe by the time I’m 40 lol
@@TimDessaint why not just Tailor the shirts? or learn to Tailor them yourself. That way you get the perfect fit every time, just look for the best material on a cheaper shirt, get it a size up, and tailor the sides and sleeves to your body.
That's an option, but a time-consuming one I find. I would rather forego the extra time and cost of altering an existing t-shirt in favour of looking for the best fit I can off the rack.
@@TimDessaint it's not time consuming, buy a shirt in a good material, size up, go to a tailor, shouldn't take more than a day even a few hours if they're not busy. If you like it, ask for the dimensions of the shirt. Buy a bunch of "cheaper" shirts in that 10 dollar range, and have them all altered to your preferred dimensions. The alterations also shouldn't be expensive, especially if you're doing a bunch of pieces, should be like $5-10 per shirt, depending on the tailor.
Sure it might seem like a few hoops to jump through, but for a few days/hours of investment, you can have the perfect t-shirt for roughly $15-20 each, maybe even cheaper should you build a good relationship with your tailor. Maybe you can even have the tailor make you shirts from scratch, with better fabrics after you've established a good rapport, and know exactly how you want your shirt to fit you.
The Uniqlo and COS tee looks fantastic on you 👌🏻
Thanks man! Really liked them as well 🙂
The tattoos bro. Very well done
They have a way of creeping up on me 🙃
The H&M shirt your wearing is one of my favouate. Have it myself and it's so niece fitting and easy to wear.
Nice! Way too long for me but glad that it fits you 🙂
Uniqlo for the W
You know it!
Great video! Really appreciate you saving us time. What shirt were you wearing at the beginning of the video with the navy line on the collar?
Thank you Sean! I appreciate you. That was a shirt I got from H&M a while ago.
Lmao, I'm 5'4" and I wear size medium (Calvin Klein tee)😂 ion kno if it looks good, but I perfer wearing a size bigger bc it feels more comfortable to me.🤧
Lol what im 5'6 and i wear size XS
Lacoste white t-shirts. As someone that's your size they fit like a charm, plus at 10 CAD a piece they aren't bad.
Nice! Thanks for the recommendation!
I like your tattoos
Thank you Dominic!
I've actually found some great tshirts from Express. I have a white and black one. Great construction, super soft, sleeves fit perfectly.
Nice! I'll test them out.
Very helpful video... subscribed*
Thank you Angel! Welcome to the family 😊
U definately deserve mooore subs bro. Luv ur vids!
Thanks man! That means a lot 🙏
Definitely ESSNTLS
Lmao, that shit expensive or else how'd you think Jose and his brothers and their families pay fit their nicer cars
hey, i'm working at the COS store, just to let you know you didnt get the right " basic white t-shirt ". The one you took is from another trend. Ask for the " basic r-neck " next time and get a size small, or try the one from the "cocooning" collection.
interesting video btw, keep it up!
Yess I realised that after, I did mention it was the "bonded cotton t-shirt" though, to not get people confused 🙂 I'll keep that in mind for next time, thank you!
As someone how just spent the last year working at H&M I do not recommend buying their clothes. You will save more money in the long run from uniqlo or even j crew is my new favorite
Great round up, I personally can't really get into white T's (more into grey/navy) but I know the struggle to find one that is weighty and substantial yet well fitting.
Thanks Mark! It's a struggle indeed 😅
Have you found a brand to your liking for your grey/navy t-shirts?
@@TimDessaint I have some from Everlane and Uniqlo that I primarily wear, but unfortunately they're just not quite there. Cuts are fine, but material needs to be more substantial. I haven't tried Everlane's thicker T's though.
Good to know! It's a never-ending quest for the perfect tee haha
Thanks for the video! I have the uniqlo and asket in my wardrobe and I am totally satisfied. I am a bit taller than you are though so the length is perfect on me! APC is good but too pricey for a white tee...
Thank you for watching Camille 🙂 The Asket ones must fit you perfectly! I agree with APC being a little too pricey for a white tee.
Kirkland Signiture Tee's in black and white are the best I've found, been hearing a few taste makers say "uniqlo" need to try those. (From Costco) btw
Nice! I'll give those a try!
I picked up some zimmerli & hanro in Geneva some time back. They're Kind of a staple now when I go back. Beautiful. Expense but second to none.
My favourite T shirts are honestly just the classic kinda boxy tees that merch is printed on and most skate brands use, ideally with a kinda rough non stretch material like in vintage tees. I also prefer to size one size up.
Rocking that oversized fit 👌 Shouldn't be too hard to find tees to your liking then 🙂
Actually its getting harder. Normal stores like the stores listed in this video dont sell them, and blanks brands like gildan are switching more and more to slimmer fitting stretchy tees too. Fortunately H&M has been selling a white tee called the "boxy" tee which is exactly how i described my ideal tee. That item is a rare exception tho.