Why I Left Clickfunnels... And Where I Migrated My Membership Site To...
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- Опубликовано: 12 янв 2017
- This Clickfunnels review shares why I left Clickfunnels, the bugs and CF support issues that caused me to migrate my site away. this is an important video for any potential click funnels customers.
Why I Left Clickfunnels... And Where I Migrated My Membership Site To: www.milesbeckler.com/why-i-lef...
Now my marketing stack consists of Wordpress on Thrive Themes, Thrive Cart, Active Campaign, Active Member 360. I call this the 'DIY Sales Funnel' approach and cover it in depth at www.diysalesfunnel.com
If you want to learn how to setup a funnel in Thrive Themes I created a 10 video series that shows step-by-step how to create a click funnels alternative, which you can find here : • Best DIY ClickFunnels ...
The organization on that playlist is a little rough for those DIY sales funnel videos, so I created a blog post that hosts everything in a easier to follow order www.milesbeckler.com/clickfun...
I mention my membership funnel that is doing really well... This is mainly because of the funnel structure itself (not the software that runs the funnel) If you want to know how that is setup in detail, go here: www.milesbeckler.com/six-figur...
The idea that you are one funnel away… Or that somehow the sales funnel is the big solution that will save you and your business is completely false. Sales funnels can definitely be helpful but they are simply a tool.
There have been dozens of new sales funnels software's released this year and I put up a video to help share an analogy to put this sales funnel gold rush into perspective • ⚠ WARNING ⚠ Avoid This...
Whether you build your funnel on click funnels, lead pages, WordPress, or with basic HTML pages the software is an insignificant component.
Your offer, your messaging, the trust you built with your audience is ultimately the key to your success with your sales funnel.
Want to share this video, here is the link: • Why I Left Clickfunnel... 
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LOL I've been WP the whole time, was looking at ClickFunnels but realized with my tech background I didn't need it, still love learning from Russell though!
He is a brilliant marketer, for sure!
Miles, this is a great video. I have been using Thrive Themes for sometime. Apart from it being a great product, the training and support is way above anything that I have seen. They always are working to improving their product and always are listening to their customers so they can have a premium tool that they proud of.
Totally agree
Significant Clickfunnels info, which I understand many people had wished that they knew earlier. Thanks for posting this.
you are welcome
Biggest Unicorn yeah! I’ve had a nightmare with both clickfunnels and Steve Larsen’s Program!
Miles, appreciate your video here. Thanks for cutting through the hype. We also use a wordpress based system. Our community area is built on a protected forum. We actually put all our courses in forums, just embed the video and links and boom, got a course. Its awesome being in TOTAL control of your platform.
We actually tried the all in on the forum at one point, it was a little confusing for our older demographic.... LOL. I know James Schram Co. is very successful with the forum-based product delivery and teaches that to his students.
Nothing like being in total control! :D
Thanks for sharing this info. Nice to hear a product review that's not an affiliate pitch. I recently retired as a mechanical designer in Canada and moved to Thailand in order to start my next chapter in life. Right now I'm researching the idea of helping small businesses develop conversion optimized single landing page style websites they can use in ad campaigns. Found your RUclips channel about a week ago and watched probably 50% of your videos already. Thanks for doing a great job, love the info you've been putting out. Two thumbs up!
My pleasure Dean! Sounds like I just missed you in Thailand... Are you in Chiang Mai? If so have you found Johnny's nomad coffee club meetup yet?
This is brilliant.... "helping small businesses develop conversion optimized single landing page style websites they can use in ad campaigns"
I would add a 2nd page to that and maybe a third (One Time Offer and Upsell) but this really is brilliant.
Helping businesses that throw away money on branding based advertising (with no tracking) and focus on direct response marketing with a measurable ROI is a massive opportunity.
Then it leads into all kinds of other potential services you can outsource and sell or bring partners on to fulfill... Copywriting, PPC campaigns, etc.
And with your mechanical engineering background I can only see benefit in organization and structuring of everything... I mean... Why not use CAD to build a funnel? :D
The affiliate pitch is there, just more subtle. When you go to his site for ThriveCart, you get redirected to an affiliate link that costs $595 for that 1 tool as an example.
Thank you for the clarity
Thank you so much! I'm just starting out and I don't know what I'm doing! I have the 14-day trial at Click Funnels but I'm at day 1. I will continue to look for your videos and watch them! Thanks again!
if you feel like you want an alternative to Clickfunnels I have created a video series that explains how I set up WordPress to do the same thing. All those free videos are on this post www.milesbeckler.com/clickfunnels-alternative
Thank you so much for the great advice! I'm going to thrive now! Love the content!
You will be glad you did! all of my content on how to set up Thrive is here: www.milesbeckler.com/clickfunnels-alternative
Absolutely LOVE MILES BECKLER.... AMAZING CHAP! THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR HONESTY AND ASSISTANCE!
This type of insight is exactly what I was looking for. I'm going to do more research on active member 360
Man, I'm so glad I stumbled across this video. I'm a WordPress girl and have been for years. I've been seeing click funnel everywhere and was going to try it out. Lol, not anymore! You've saved me so much time and money. THANKS TO YOU!!
You are welcome
What is it? I know how to code so I probably will stick with WordPress, but curious as to what it is.
As a WordPress fan, I love this option. We use the Divi 3 theme. Wondering if Thrive Cart integrates well with it.
Thanks.
You would need a plugin to manage access (thrive cart is only a cart) but yes, should work fine!
I've had a few technical issues with ClickFunnels, but so far the Membership Funnels have worked great for me. I love being able to include upsells on the Members Area :)
+Shawn Bayley offering members more products is good for business!
Clickfunnels is growing a MASSIVE army of affiliates, so there is a ton of hype and buzz about it... But honestly it is still buggy!
Dear Miles, would you please share the link to your paid course? Thanks, great videos.
No paid course... Just layin it all out here on RUclips for free as clearly as I can.
How do you have less than 2k subscribers? Your material is like hidden treasure here on youtube. Thank you for taking the time.
Miles Beckler Yeah, in chat they like to say "This is how it works" instead of "this is an obvious bug, thanks for reporting it". They need a publicly accessible bug tracker, like any application. ClickFunnels is actually sort of awesome compared to some funnel makers, really (minus the membership area part), but they need to take software development far more seriously. I also notice that they use Intercom for promotional emails, whereas they should be using Actionetics. That's just ridiculous. They need to "dogfood" everything they sell, like a real software company.
True Very Buggy System
Thanks ! Very helpful i m just starting in funnel and have your honest point of view very help
Great to hear... Remember that it is a marathon and a sprint... Build it for the long term and a great funnel can reap rewards for YEARS after it is all dialed in. Worth the effort!!!
I really like this guy. Genuine.
Glad to hear it David.... Not many people willing to ignore the 40% commissions on click funnels and offer some real talk about that platform... Luckily I have a successful business and I'm not financially tied to spreading rumors.
he's one of the few internet marketing gurus who doesn't spam me. great videos too
Thanks for being honest 👍
Wow so grateful for this video... I'm a self-published author and I would like to create online courses and membership site. I tried New Kajabi, Teachable and Thinkific but as you said, I would like more control. I considered LearnDash or Whislist Member plug-in but not sure because I also need to consider what's the best email marketing company to start plus landing pages... I feel tired to be honest, so I can imagine how hard was for you using Click Funnels and then migrate everything. Today I was watching Click Funnels videos and almost buy, and all of the sudden your video showed up... I'm using Avada Theme for my website already.
LearnDash is a cool wordpress based system! Looked at it and it didn't fit my needs but could work well for a course that is more educational...My membership is more like access to lots of stuff, so didn't need the learning side!
Here is a how to series with the theme and how to setup the funnel stuff in wordpress: www.milesbeckler.com/clickfunnels-alternative/
If you want professional help from the guy who helped me brainstorm the right solution for my needs and implement it, reach out to Dave at IntegratePro.com use the contact link on his site and if you say Miles told you to reach out, he'll do a free skype call to help you figure out what works.
He is my go-to person for help with my membership, getting the cart tied in, the email list, etc... Definitely a key player on my team!
I did an interview with him if you want to vibe him out: ruclips.net/video/Wrz00t_S1p0/видео.html
Thank you again. I subscribed since yesterday to your channel and now I'm reading your site and watching other videos. Great content!👍
I think I'll reach out to Dave as well if you don't mind
Are we able to create membership course navigation on the left like how ClickFunnel does? I like the way how the navigation works that neat and simply. Thanks in advance.
Hi Miles, this video has really helped. I also read the article that goes with it at your blog. Thank you for your fantastic review, you covered all the bases. I can't wait to implement your ideas. Many, many, many thanks 🤗
Hey Miles, appreciate the video, one suggestion though, please do test your website on mobile devices or use Hotjar to track how your site appears to your visitors. Because I've had this problem with one of the landing page building plugin by Thrive called Thive Architect (previously called Thrive Visual Builder) where the site was breaking on mobile devices, images appearing out of elements, DIV etc.
Ya, I'm testing instapages now that has heatmapping built in...
Holy cow! I'm building my site with Thrive as we speak. It's my 1st membership site and hearing this just validates this decision. I never even thought to use clickfunnels but def glad I didn't start with them.
Good to get a little validation that you are going in the right direction! :D
Hi Miles, great information. I am raw-handed. I have purchased Thrive Architect.
What is the difference between Thrive Architect and Thrive Theme and why one needs both? I want to be able to use WooCommerce, eventually. Will Thrive Theme / TA integrate with Woo Commerce? Many thanks.
Hi Miles, thank you for posting and sharing. Question what video of yours do you recommend to learn what sales funnels are and how to do them? I dont have my website in Wordpress.. thanks for the help!!
Good for you being the captain of your ship. Thank you for this. It was very helpful.
Glad it was helpful! Good to see all sides of the coin, sometimes...
Yes, I have been thinking about leaving Click Funnels. There are some really great features, but I am having to do some cash flow reality checking and match outlays to needs. I absolutely want to manage money in a way that upkeep does not become the downfall, as my mentor says. I've been using iglooapp.com/ to build landing pages and the basic membership sites like Click Funnels does.... but with drip and some other nice features... I teach a business plan course at community college and I feel much better recommending a one-time expense than ongoing, especially for startups... I'm watching your video on what you'd do if you have to start over now... Great stuff & thanks again.
+alorrinda managing cash flow is the #1priority for sure!
For me the WordPress systems offer the most flexibility because it lends itself to content marketing/SEO/blogging and funnels.
I did a bit of a price analysis in this blog post that you may enjoy: www.milesbeckler.com/choose-your-marketing-funnel-platform/
Sometimes the easy can be too good to be true. I thank you for sharing your experiences in hopes to help us all.
my pleasure… And you are 100% correct if it sounds too good to be true it may be too good to be true
Thanks for sharing! While looking for simple help on ClickFunnels I turned to RUclips as I received error messages and my domain showed page not found. Every time I needed help I could only use their chat. There are no phone numbers. Trying to explain an issue over chat is difficult - at least for them. They kept telling me that it was FaceBooks problem, It was my domain's host's problems. To me, no matter what ClickFunnels is great at, their support is does not work. So, I am ending my membership today.
Tough to deal with chat as a main 'support' medium. If you haven't found the clickfunnels alternative i'm using already, this post shows the entire setup... www.milesbeckler.com/clickfunnels-alternative
Hey Miles, I recently found you after joining a course learning about FB marketing. Thank you for all your vids. They are truly amazing content with great value! Wishing you nothing but the best!
It is my pleasure and I'll keep dropping knowledge bombs as often as possible!
I have to say that was refreshing! It was impressive that you put out there what "stack" you use to handle your online marketing and sales. I have considered so many from Infusionsoft to Ontraport. I presently signed up for Active Campaign and have a tech guy that I will contact on your suggestions. Thanks again!
Active Campaign an Active Member 360 are working really well together! I'm happy with the stack.
i have stop paying for funnel-university which is the product of click funnel. and till this day which is like 1 year or so. i still have access to the content.
great video! thanks for sharing! I use Optimizepress and Amember and I'm very happy
Nice!
Are you going to do a thrive theme tutorial. just a thought. thanks Miles
Yes, I plan to do a whole series on that theme... I've got a busy travel schedule and hotels for almost 2 weeks, before I settle in somewhere I can pull that off... But indeed, that is my plan!
Thanks for the suggestion and encouragement!
I'm Thrive Themes too. Love it. Miles you should make some training videos on how to use the membership part of Thrive.
Still new with it, but I may do a behind the scenes vid soon with Thrive. Have you found their apprentice feature? Only works on some of there themes, but is totally cool for this! thrivethemes.com/introducing-thrive-apprentice/
And with that said, I think they are working on a new and improved system to replace this with even more functionality!
From what I gather the Apprentice feature isn't a full membership site solution. You're a high level marketer and it's great to have you in Thrive Themes family. I hear what you say about CF. Hopefully you can work with Thrive (Shane and Paul) and they can roll out a fully functional membership system without some of the glitches of other platforms.
To manage the access to your 'members area' that is built on Thrive's apprentice system you need a plugin to handle that... MemberMouse.com is a good one because it handles checkout and access to the content.
Thrive is just a theme... So just the 'look' and 'layout' not the functionality of making sales and giving customers access to the appropriate pages... Just the look of those pages.
Make sense?
I used S2 member a few years ago so got the idea. Optimize Press used to be one of the best but like the Thrive Themes system better. An all in one solution is tough to find. I'll look at the membermouse.
Anyone heard of the 1 page funnel? I seen an add on Facebook of a guy promoting it. Thoughts?
Good call, Miles, you scared the crap out of me there when you revealed that CF was allowing non-payers to view your content.
I was 2 days into my trial @ $297 / mo. (Which I had serious doubts about!)
Many thanks. Subscribed.
Norm.
Thanks for your video Miles, I appreciate the great content, Question for you, when you are doing the move, is moving your customer's emails, easy to do, How does that transition work?
As long as they actually opted in, and you reach out to the company you are migrating to before it is usually super simple... Export list from one, import to the other.
Ask to make sure they will let you upload the list and not have to re-confirm since they already confirmed. They 'get it' and can even help import the list, sometimes. But even DIY it is super simple
Subscribed! Thanks for laying it out there. I've never been a fan of monthly memberships, but it's great to have a different perspective from all the others talking CF up. I was actually on a webinar where we were told that if we didn't use CF we were not serious about our business. Yeah - that kind of nonsense rubs me the wrong way. Looking forward to more of your videos!
Ouch... That is a very aggressive sales tactic. Glad we've been able to connect here!
Seriously aggressive, and those tactics do NOT work well with someone like me. Keep on doin' what you're doin'! :-)
Great information, Question: if I already have a WordPress account, website and domain, do I still need to sign up for thrive themes?
Confusionshoft LOL, I am currently using wordpress with a membership plugin, active campaign and Clickfunnels, of course I just started using CF however you have a lot of great points and if I have any issues, I now have a couple of options.
If you can't get everything to 'play nice' going all in on a WP system should resolve that...
Thanks Miles! I've been playing around with different methods aside from the affiliate branding I'm growing through this channel but I've been experimenting through CPA Marketing in Maxbounty and really know theres potential within Facebook ads for conversions but haven't quit got the key in the right slot to unlock it. primarily I'd like to be able to promote the offer in the ad with the link acting as a 301 redirect, but without the hassle of creating a website for it or coding landing pages. Do you recommend any software or structures on how you run some pretty successful funnels through facebook ads? would love your insight!
Using WordPress makes everything pretty simple once you get the hang of it… Creating 31 redirects in 307 redirects is as easy as entering or link, new link in a plug-in in a WordPress site and boom it's there.
This video series will show you how to create a funnel on WordPress with the theme I use: www.milesbeckler.com/wordpress-funnel
One tip… Build an email list! Sounds like your direct linking people from Facebook to CPA which yes might work, that's how I made my first money online… But the moment Facebook gets what you're doing though put a stop to it and your income will disappear completely if you don't have a list. If you send people from Facebook to your list then to the CPA offer you can send them to several CPA offers through your follow-up sequins and when Facebook flips the script on you you still have your email list meaning you still have an asset that can create income for you even though the game has changed
I've used upwork for other tasks, but how do I go about finding a quality developer for my wordpress site and how much should I be paying to migrate my clickfunnels content to a thrivetheme site? Thanks. Love your videos.
it all depends on what country they are in and what their level of expertise is.I assume you could find someone in the US for $20-$35 per hour if you are looking in the Philippines you could probably find someone for $10-$15 per hour. I look at past references/reviews and the comments
happy new year Miles great post, what is click funnels? as a company what is it? a type of template for a website? a hosting company? aka lead generation? or a membership company? they have two plans 297$ and & 97$?
Thanks for all this great content. I've had to build tech stacks before and had been considering Thrive, but was also looking at CF, but even during demos put together by their customers (like Frank Kern) the bugs are apparent. It's tough to build one-size fits all platforms, and I am a huge fan of WordPress already. But this is my first foray into funnels more complex than hubspot vanilla.
You really nailed it that 'it is tough to build one-size fits all platforms' ....Very true! Wordpress offers that flexibility I like to know I can grow and adapt it as needed in the future. You may enjoy this video where I interview the guy who put together the marketing stack I used to get off Clickfunnels: ruclips.net/video/Wrz00t_S1p0/видео.html
Thanks for the info...
I really appreciate the info. I hadn't even thought about it before...why would I have, right? When everybody else is singing CF's praises, you don't know if it's the affiliate program or a real review - you know what I mean? It could just be the affiliate commission talking. As I am writing this it's just dawned on me that Franklin Hatchet speaks very fondly of you. You were one of his mentors he speaks about. I think he has modeled you from afar. You showed him what was possible. I definitely appreciate you.
Commissions skew a LOT of people's opinions
This seems very balanced, honest and authentic. Thanks, man!
Cheers... And be nice to those pepperonis! ...They've been through a lot
Was just considering Thrive or CF. Thanks for your story it helped. If you don't mind Miles, what would be the best affiliate solution to integrate with active member 360, cannot see anything about affiliate integration on their site? Thanks
Hey Tony, thanks for the comment... So I'm using Thrive card to manage the checkout process and they just rolled out an affiliate module that works with Thrive cart. You drop a couple of resources/links here below for you if you want more information.
First I just completed a post on my site about Thrive or ClickFunnels; which goes a bit deeper as a direct comparison, here: www.milesbeckler.com/choose-your-marketing-funnel-platform/
then I want to introduce you to my integration guy who actually got the active member working with Thrive the way I wanted (and helped me get going on Thrive cart) during this transition… His name is Dave and he is at www.integratepro.com
he is super helpful and super friendly but most importantly incredibly smart when it comes to integrating multiple systems together and making different systems communicate with each other the way they should! If you reach out to him tell him Miles sent you.
Honestly, this is one of the best videos I've found on this topic. You really got to the nitty gritty. Thank you Miles. (Thanks for the video direct - I cleaned up my comment for privacy reasons) You're awesome!
My friend Dave sets it all up for me. He shows the process in detail in this video ruclips.net/video/8aeepab24_M/видео.html
@@MilesB Thanks so much :-)
Hey Miles! I have to hand it to you, you're a beast at answering questions in this comments section! Thanks in advance for your response. As you evaluated the feature differences between ActiveCampaign vs. Mailchimp, what was the kicker that made you pull the trigger on Active Campaign? Thanks for your time!
Great question Kevan.
Active campaign is much more similar to Infusionsoft where you get advanced automation tools, tagging, and lead scoring. (With a lot less confusion)
Active campaign has a plug-in they created called active member 360 that picks up the tags from active campaign and gives users access to certain pages or posts based on the tags.
Then, thrive cart is able to place tags or run automations on customers based on new purchases, failed payments, restart failed payments, refunds, etc.
Mail chimp is much simpler... And honestly, I gave up on mail chimp years ago due to deliverability issues some not all that in tune with where that platform stands today.
The real kicker was that the integration specialist I hired to help manage this process highly recommended this marketing stack as a way for me to get into the "new age of marketing" for some advanced retargeting and segmenting features that just aren't possible on simpler auto responders.
His name is Dave and his site is IntegratePro.com If you are curious
Right on Miles! Thanks for the deep response. Can you briefly tell me if you see any problems with this. I think my stack solution is going to look something like this; [1. Move my site, www.believerworldwide.com, from Webflow to WordPress, 2.Move from Shopify to WooCommerce for checkout, + TBD plug-in for upsell funnel 3. Active Campaign for email automation 4.Agora Pulse for Social Publishing. 5. Google Analytics] Are you seeing anything major I'm missing? (I'm selling physical products). Thanks again!
Seems legit! be sure to get your Facebook tracking pixel all over your site and your active campaign pixel so you can get some really cool retargeting an email segmenting automation on your side.
Remarketing to people who sorry checkout page but didn't buy is going to be some seriously low hanging fruit once that's all set up!
With their monthly payment system being buggy, should I just use another service to take care of that part specifically and integrate it into ClickFunnels? Do they allow that?
I do believe it's possible to integrate a different payment system... When I started the migration, I thought I was can leave click funnels in place for part and integrate another system to work with click funnels. The integration specialist I hired had warned me against this approach because it created unnecessary complexity which leaves room for problems in the future. His recommendation was to move to a unified system that was stable and rely on one system to handle everything.... And now that I've completed the migration I am so thankful I did!
Really love the value you're giving in your videos man. I'm getting ready to launch my first membership product in a few months and I'm currently hunting for the best website to do everything I need.
It's definitely worth a little extra time researching and finding the one that can support you in your long-term growth.
Wow...very interesting. I am on thrive now, and looking to go to click funnels. Your experience is reassuring me that thrive themes is the way to go.
+Chris Brown I really like thrive... Very happy with my decision now 4 or 5 months later!
Thanks for sharing. Control is key
YES! So important
Thank You for all Your insight, I was hoping to find out what the Monthly cost is now for Your New Platform using WP, and also what Hosting Service You Are Using ? kind regards, Diana
Depends on a few factors, like how long you sign up for each component (they give price breaks for paying annually up front) One viewer just set up a site based on my DIY Sales Funnel series ( ruclips.net/video/YsUNFZhqkEA/видео.html ) And it cost him around $300 for the whole year... I think $19/mo for the autoresponder is the only monthly recurring and that doesn't start till month 2.
Miles, first of all thank you for your videos, and always responding to my questions. I look forward to your daily videos. I would love it if you could go into more detail on the Thrive Themes, and Active campaign, and Active member 360. How do you connect all this. I feel so dumb. I am making progress. I'm not one to give up. Again, Thanks so much.
Victoria, to be perfectly honest I hired Dave at www.integratePro.com to manage this set up for me. If you reach out to him for help, be sure you let them know that Miles sent you as he takes care of my friends and will usually do a free one-on-one call to see if you and hear a fit, if he has time.
Mr. Beckler, just in case my message arrived in your spam mailbox, wanted to let you know that your #1 fan did indeed send you a message - thanks a million!!!
Great to hear! I can tell you that I now receive dozens of 'Hey Miles I found your videos....' messages every day and honestly have been ignoring them all... Even the people who want to hire me for consulting gigs... lol. Just don't have enough time to go through the personal questions.
Wow! Thank you so much for eye-opening video, Miles. I have been using ClickFunnels for 2 years and here of lately, they have been EXTREMELY buggy. I will be looking into ThriveThemes for hosting membership sites in the future. Don't like hosted content that I cannot control and of course, losing my money.
I 100% agree with you... If their product stood up to the marketing hype from them and their affiliates, I'd love it... But the truth is much different than what they're "selling"
Hey Miles. Question how does the login form and edit profile look with ac360 and thrive? I have thrive themes, tc and use ac. The thing about thrive themes is they strip some css and then the forms look like 1997 old. I want front end editing and no admin bar view. Thanks and thanks for sharing your experience.
Right now, the log in page is the wordpress login page.... Gotta get our logo on there and get rid of that W... lol.
There is no admin bar and they don't have an edit profile page yet... But, with that said, I will be adding on BuddyPress and think they will get all kinds of new profile functionality, I believe.
I don't know if the no admin bar was standard or if my integration guy did that... If you want any help with customizing your setup, I highly recommend Dave at www.integratepro.com he did a lot with AM360 and WP for me.
Hello I'm using S2member plugin for membership. It's quite frustrating to setup it but when you are done it's working really well. The cons is they stripe payment gateway is not sexy. You are stuck with paypal or clickbank.
What about adding on Thrive Cart or Sam Cart to control the look of checkout? That's what I do
Thanks so much for posting this video! You just helped change the course of my business and saved me a lot of money!
Glad I could be of service!
Thanks for this. Miles, we tried it out last year and had a lot of the same issues. I know they are nice guys and will probably get it fixed, but that does not currently pay the bills. :) And it still may be great for those people that do not have a Membership component.
Do you have an Autoresponder in addition to those products you mention OR does your List reside inside those products somewhere?? Any comments welcome and thanks for sharing Miles.
3rd party autoresponder... I recommend Aweber for people who aren't yet at the $10k/mo mark: www.milesbeckler.com/aweber
Great video Miles. We haven't invested in Clickfunnels yet. Right now we're using OP2 with Thrive Lead Shortcodes to measure conversion rates. Love Thrive and love OP2 as well. Onwards, my man!
If you love where you are, I'd recommend staying there! :D Glad you liked the video...
Certainly did buddy. Thanks for sharing your love with us all. BB
Miles, now I have you - can I ask: do you know of a WP plugin that gives me the chance to create a a funnel analytics dashboard, a la Clickfunnels? Man, that would be so great. Currently use the shortcodes on Thrive Leads, which is decent. I''d love to have a dashboard though. Any experiences you have to share would be awesome, brother. Thank you!
Google Analytics is what professional marketers use...
Yep. I was asking if you had a specific WP plugin to measure basic conversion rate of a page within the dashboard? We embed Thrive shortcodes right now, which works OK for measuring conversion.
Excellent insights here, sir. Thanks for sharing your experience!
My pleasure... Thanks for the comment.
Miles, I'm in the middle of 90 day challenge. Now migrate my blog to Thrive too! Thanks for this info. I learn the hard way lesson, paid developer for "little thing" in my blog. and it took 2 months. he spoke in languange that i didnt understand. felt like he did it in purpose, that makes me more confuse! Thankyou for saving my time in the future. Yesterday is lesson to learn. Your content is gold.
Can you talk a little about how a wordpress site is able to grant and withdraw access to members when using stripe either as a standalone or with an intermediary like samcart etc for payments? Thanks.
You will pretty much always need a plugin to interface with Samcart/Stripe and your WordPress site. I'm using ActiveMember360 (that connects ActiveCampaign [my email service] and Wordpress) and this is a bit more complex than most beginners need.
MemberMouse is a great option and it eliminates the need for SamCart as it includes the checkout page... You integrate Stripe to MM, integrate your email service to MM and configure it like a normal plugin on Wordpress... Product A gives access to pages /a, /b, /c.... Product B gives access to pages /c, /d, etc.
What would you suggest? I also am starting and have minimal startup amount to invest in my business.
Content marketing and list building is exactly how we started... We had no money to invest at first... So we invested our time and energy creating content to build an audience.
Hey Miles! Super useful channel! Cheers from Hungary, Budapest! Also a great place for digital nomads, if you are looking for a European city, many foreigners here!
one question: what is your opinion about instapage for landing pages?
Thanks for your answer! :)
Have never used it and have no interest in it... I prefer WordPress and Thrive themes. www.milesbeckler.com/clickfunnels-alternative/
What plan do you have for Active Campaign? Which one includes all the tagging and such that you mentioned?
The lowest price one. Nothing fancy
Hi Miles. I see that you did this video in Jan 2017 and was wondering if you are still using WP as you main funnels?
Hi Miles, really enjoy your videos & info as it is so confusing and there's so much out there to look at! And i was about to choose CF but now u got me thinking - so I have a specific campaign that is to sell audios - first on specific audio then need an opt-in to collect emails to retarget with new stuff - very simple - what system or what would you suggest?
Wordpress is my go to clickfunnels alternative... My wife and I sell .mp3 files and this is what we use (including how to set it up videos): www.milesbeckler.com/clickfunnels-alternative/
I was about to join Click funnels! Gad I got to this video first. Thanks :)
It can be worth it in some situations (simple funnels, no recurring payments) but I still think WordPress offers so many advantages that it is a huge step up.
Awesome video thanks so much for sharing your setup! I am just looking to set up a member site, so I'm very thankful having read this.
I was wondering how you handle affiliate tracking with the Wordpress / Activemember setup. Since Clickfunnels has a built in affiliate tracking / payout system (i think they call it Backpack) I was hoping you have worked out a good equivalent for that?
Thrive cart has an affiliate module too
Oh awesome, didn't realise that - they don't mention it clearly on their sales page!
My one thing is I know from past experiences you can run two sites on Wordpress with one hosting - do you believe A2 is the best choice for hosting -
It is one of the better choices yes. I would have to have tested every single option to call the "best
and I have not done that. but they are not corporate owned, they are fast to support and their servers are quick… Everything I needed in a shared host
Hey, i was just wondering what websites/programs do you suggest i use for an affiliate marketing program that sells luxury products? I'm interested in creating funnels, building my email list, etc.
This playlist goes into the tools and how to set them all up: ruclips.net/video/YsUNFZhqkEA/видео.html
Great video Miles, Is this still your stack ? Thrive Cart, Active Campaign, Active Member 360
QUESTION:: How many funnels you run at any given time. Do you have a number or percentage between Afillate funnels and personal. how many do you feel we should run after having a firm grasp on the process. Thanks for your time Miles. god bless
Great question... My goal is to have one solid 'Cold Traffic' funnel.... And that is it. I'm a big fan of minimizing the moving pieces I have to look after...
So the cold traffic funnel connects me with new people (I'm using this without the downsell right now: ruclips.net/video/KzSaoDf_VuQ/видео.html )
That grows my list... After they are on my list, I do point them to affiliate products, and point them to other funnels, like my membership... But since they are 'warmed up' to us, everything works better at that point.
So I really give 80% of my focus to that cold traffic funnel.
Also, remember that I'm nearly 10 years in on this particular business... I started with this funnel for nearly 3 years... To figure out what worked, what got my audience to take action, what didn't work, etc: ruclips.net/video/nHvGwU8trgo/видео.html
So it’s now 2019 would you still suggest the websites you mentioned over click funnels?
More now than ever... Still on that system... Made my own 2 comma club with it!
I am a member and love Thrive Themes!!!!
Great to hear!
Do you have a video of how to setup all those different services and have them connected?
I don't, but I think I need to do an 'integration' video sometime soon when I get a chance... I did hire the team at www.integratepro.com to help me get it all together and Dave there helped me a bunch.
ok. thanks a lot. do you know when thrive cart will be open to the public?
Hi Miles, i built a pretty rough site using optimizepress 18 months ago, i'm now at a point where i need to redo my site and it definitely needs a good membership option and funnel. Would you suggest that Thrive themes is a better option if i'm considering scrapping most of my old site?
I left OP years ago and am so glad I did... Thrive is what I use so yes, that is what I recommend.
How are you tracking analytics of clicks on page, clickfunnels offers such great analytics especially when managing an affiliate program and tracks actual sales. How do you do this with Thrive?
Google analytics mainly. Obviously I've got my Facebook pixel installed and I cross-reference my hard data from the email list and my shopping cart.
My shopping cart handles all of the affiliate program tracking and even the PayPal mass pay, super easy.
Thank you
Thanks a lot! I already knew Thrive themes and you confirm what I think about them. They are awesome. I've never thought about building a sales funnel through thrive themes so thanks a lot. I was searching for this. By the way, can we build a simple but complete sales funnel selling 1 upfront + 1 upsell with only thrive themes? Thank you.
You need to add on a shopping cart, but yes you can. And a shopping cart can be an inexpensive one-time purchase.... You can see the tutorial series I did on how to build a DIY sales funnel here: www.milesbeckler.com/clickfunnels-alternative
Hi Miles,
Do you have any recommendations for using Optimizepress?
I couldn't figure out their system in version 1.0 so I left and never went back. I prefer thrive.
Hi Miles! Will you please give me links so I can see Thrive Themes and ThriveCart in live working websites?
Miles, what is a good system to use for accepting payment plans? How to put it together on WP? Thanks in advance!
ThriveCart, MemberMouse or SamCart for payments... Used Thrive themes like shown here: www.milesbeckler.com/wordpress-funnel
Good content.. I am very new to all this tech info. Is this user friendly for someone just trying to building funnels for email retrieving. I have a an econ business.
yes, the first two videos here show you how to set it up to collect emails www.milesbeckler.com/clickfunnels-alternative/
Great vid, Miles -- Thanks!
Cheers Ryan
Yes Clickfunnel did me the same way, very discouraging also lost affiliate link payouts
I signed up for CF only to find that I can pay 97.00 a month to GET customers, then I can pay an ADDITIONAL fee to find out who they are! So, I see CF gets to use my customer's /leads free while I must pay extra. I don't like the slimy feel of that. Am I being too critical?
do you have any opinion on the divi theme? we're using that one and it seems to work pretty well for what we do, I hadn't considered the thrive theme though.
if you have already purchased it, it is good enough to get you into momentum and up to that 10 K per month mark. It is a little slow and clunky though which is why I left it many years ago
If you haven't yet purchased, Thrive is far superior and it's worth purchasing Thrive over Divi
Thanks Miles for this video. I'm doing some research on product launches and CF happened to have a product launch funnel built already. I know I can set all of this up via my WordPress blog but I really don't want to build a funnel or hire someone to do it. Would you recommend CF in this instance?
I guess the simple question is... Are you willing to pay upwards of 10x more (up to $3236/year more) for a less functional and less customizable system that has a pre-built funnel in it?
This post breaks down the costs: www.milesbeckler.com/choose-your-marketing-funnel-platform/
This video series shows the 'how to' of building out a ClickFunnels alternative on WordPress if you would like a tutorial: ruclips.net/p/PL0sOKzn__yK3iOONk6-QP0Se2G23ZcuWL
RideshareDrivingTips.com Thanks Miles! I want 10X RESULTS, not 10X expenses! Lol! I'll check out your links. U Da Man! 😊
Thanks for the video - how do you like ActiveCampaign's membership plugin?
Not a huge fan but I'm stuck with it because I'm on active campaign
@@MilesB Thanks. Honestly there is so much room for improvement in the world of membership plugins. I've been using Wishlist for a few years now - it gets the job done, but I need to purchase additional plugins to make it more efficient. Keep up the good work.
Any opinions about convertri? Thanks so much!
Nope... Sounds like another closed system I'd ignore, personally.
Are there Thrive Theme membership templates (similar to what I've heard called "child themes?")? If so, where do I find them?
I'm building (or will pay to have built) my first membership site (although it is by necessity a bit complex, with multiple layers of memberships, as well as a few courses that are available up-purchases for customers that want to dive deep into a topic).
Thanks!
+Steven Thrasher Thrive has several themes that work on their framework... I go more in depth and show inside the Thrive themes member's area in this video: m.ruclips.net/video/YsUNFZhqkEA/видео.html
Hi Miles
Is the wordpress/thrive theme setup good for physical products
ecommerce/dropshiiping/shopify or is there any clickfunnels alternative for the same.
Woocommerce is probably better
Hi Miles. I followed yr advice to a Tee but running into block after block. The AM 360 support ( I went ahead and purchased this membership plugin) contacted me to say they don't support Thrive Apprentice. And the video tutorial you pointed me to was great but he focuses on Learn Dash stacked with 360, AC, Buddy Press, etc. So at a point the video doesn't work for me. I searched your content and can't locate any clear info about how to do this. I've been weeks on this. Can you help or be hired? Or do you have a video that shows how you pulled a thrive theme/Thrive Apprentice/ together with these other plugins (AC & AC360 & Thrive Cart) to drip courses? Thanks.
This is strange and it has happened to a few people... Are you able to simply use WordPress pages to deliver your course? Try seeing if AM360 will successfully 'protect' a regular page next... If so, see if that will work for your delivery.
Another option people go with is using "Learn Dash" like Dave shows in this video: ruclips.net/video/8aeepab24_M/видео.html
@@MilesB I received a message from Dave. He's going to work with me so looks like this will be solved. We have a meeting Monday. Thanks for all your help.
Hi Miles - the biggest thing I like about CF is there checkout page / shopping cart because it allows for essentially upselling right on the checkout page (if you've seen Trey Lewellyns' videos, you'll know what I'm talking about).
Do you know how to get that same functionality in a shopping cart without Clickfunnels?
On SamCart you can add order bumps on the checkout page and up to 5 or 6 upsells and 5 or 6 downsells on every product. Plus you can split test the checkout pages, too...
Thanks, Miles. I'll look into SamCart.
I'd love to see how a behind the scenes on how you used Thrive & Apprentice to set up your new membership site, if you ever get the chance to do a video on it.
I've just setup a new WP site that will be a living/breathing case study on how to build a business with info products/membership and plan to cover the apprentice feature for that!
This is the site I setup in my newest video that went out today... May take me a little bit, but definitely in the plan!
i really appreciate this video, i just started delving into click funnels so knowing that it's not the best platform to use in terms of its membership site usability is helpful, i love your videos btw (thumbs up) keep 'em coming!
Glad you are enjoying the videos! I'm happy to share what I've learned from my experiences through the years!
Thanks for the reply! My last question for now is regarding click funnels by Russell Brunson. Is the Click Funnels software that he promotes the best option for people like me who are new to online marketing (notwithstanding membership site support)? It comes with a $297/month subscription and if there's cheaper software out there that has the same/similar capability i'd love to know. Thanks again for your advice, it's really appreciated!
Thanks Miles! Would you recommend Click Funnels (membership sites notwithstanding) for beginner online marketers? Just trying to justify the $297/month subscription fee, thanks again for your advice!
Hey Sammy... I think ClickFunnels is a solid option for simple funnels but you don't need the $297 option and you can start with the $97 option plus getting an email autoresponder. There is also a Wordpress based system that breaks down to nearly half that monthly price if the cost is too high... but takes a bit more 'work' to put together (not much, but a little).
Check out this blog post I made where I broke down the options and their pricing as best I could: www.milesbeckler.com/choose-your-marketing-funnel-platform/
Cheers Miles! The value is in the content and i gleaned tons of value here, thanks again :-)
The Realistic Legit Honest Miles.
Miles' You have my attention for one main reason, you give so much, constantly I was just about to join clickfunnel and was doing my final research to move forward, and bam!! I see this and I have been following you, have heard you speak of Thrive funnel platform in wordpress, and I do presently have wordpress and GetResponse Email Marketing, again thank you, Lastly I have witness companies who take on huge projects and massive audiences experience major issues.
How is click funnels for affiliate marketing?
Question, can I use Thrive themes outside wordpress? Does Thrive Themes work also as an autoresponder? Thank you for your response
No, thrive is built on Wordpress. They work together. Thrive is not an autoresponder. This post may help you understand the pieces to the puzzle better: www.milesbeckler.com/choose-your-marketing-funnel-platform/