Reminds me of the old days at Peak Forest sidings, trying to start a 37 and 56... freezing cold minus 15, deep snow, doors frozen shut! Lots of de-icer later managed to get in the cab, then sat there for 20 mins with frozen finger welded to the start button! Great days they were. 😁
They must chew some diesel starting up those huge engines! But they sound good on a cold day I've stood near many a one at traction depots around the UK on freezing cold days/nights choking on diesel fumes lol 😆
I’m a vintage enthusiast, and certainly no tree hugger, but I just don’t think this is cool these days. Much as I love 37’s clouds of unburnt diesel going into the atmosphere is not good
It's to do with the slight twisting/movement of the chassis over time. They're generally pretty smooth when built, but over the years all the pulling/braking a loco does flexes the chassis slightly, and the thin body panels will wrinkle slightly in response. Totally normal, if a little ugly.
@@jakethadley I never even thought of that but it makes sense. Thanks for the info. Knowing what caused it also makes me think of it more as beauty marks. Signs of a well earned life.
It's normal for a cold EE CSVT engine. There is no block heater, no glow plugs. You just continuously crank them until you get at least 3 or 4 (out of 12 for the 37s) cylinders firing, then leave them for half an hour to warm up. The operating manual for them allows you to crank them for something like up to 5 or 10 minutes when starting from cold. That's how they were designed, and they are built to handle it. Vulcan Foundry knew what they were doing, as this magnificent machine has been working just like that for the last 60+ years (with a few rebuilds over the years), and you still have some of them in mainline service (not just preservation). The smoke will clear up once the massive block gets reasonably hot.
Some of these engines are 40-50 years old and this one is starting in very cold conditions which means the engine takes longer to warm up, i've seen hundreds of diesel start ups in winter and this is actually quite fast as its a regular use engine
Diesel engines don't run well when cold (if they did, they wouldn't run well at operating temperature). Passenger cars have a glow-plug heater in the engine so that they start without emitting so much unburned fuel, but trains are only expected to be started once a day and so they run without the cost / weight of a glow plug system. Pre-environmental issues ...
That starter motor oh wow, sounds like the long haired bloke singing in last year,s Eurovision song contest, main feature the Tractor coughing wheezing popping chugging to life, both turbos whistling as cool backing vocals.
@@basiltaylor8910 The generator (this is a diesel electric) is used as a starter by applying a current to it. Therefore there is no separate starter motor.
I know the Tractor is diesel electric using a concept in some pre war cars, called a Dynastarter a combination starter generator, current stored in battery packs is fed to motor the generator in order to start the diesel@@12crepello,in the Tractors case via a set of reduction gears ,making it sound like the starter motor on a family car .
A question guys when they designed the engine for these locomotives was there an engine pre heater system installed? If not why I wonder did no one consider this. I get nervous listening to the engine trying to turn over and get up to pressure. As a mechanical engineer all that cold metal against cold metal concerns me. without sounding pretentious I would have designed preheated system possibly run off MPD workshop source that would have got the engine lubrication system, fuel up to a pre determined temperature so as to make starting easy on components and operations of. Just me being concerned about the process and how to remedy it. Great video production 🙂
The sound of the Napier, 18 cylinder 2stroke, supercharged, Diesel coming to life is music to the hear, the firing order is unique as engine has no valves, 18 pistons and 3 crankshafts... ✌️ Update Wheel arrangement: Co-Co. Origin: English Electric type 3 locomotive built by English Electric at Newton-le-Willows in 1963. Engine/power: English Electric 12CSVT, Turbo-charged and Intercooled, 1750hp at 850rpm. ... Length over buffers: 61ft. ... Working weight: 105 tons. Maximum speed: 90 mph. My mistake not Deltic nor Napier powered ✌️ & 💚
Reminds me of the old days at Peak Forest sidings, trying to start a 37 and 56... freezing cold minus 15, deep snow, doors frozen shut! Lots of de-icer later managed to get in the cab, then sat there for 20 mins with frozen finger welded to the start button! Great days they were. 😁
That's a nice start, especially considering the temperature, she's in good nick.
I love it how one cylinder starts firing and then the others start slowly joining in, one after the other 😂
Don't know what it is but I love the class 37s they sound awesome great video
V12 low revving
listening to this i can almost hear the 37 protesting at being made to wake up.
I DONT WANNA GO TO SCHOOL TODAY
Tremendous video! Would love to see another, start up plus a a good 20 mins or more idling and moving off would make a proper movie!
I have to agree with other commentors, this was a surprisingly good cold start for a diesel!
Music to my ears
Poetry in motion like a great band playing
0:04 sounds like music from a horror movie,0:18 sounds like its saying nooooo no no no no no or oh god or please help
That's what I feel like in the morning
A lot of experienced smokers could never blow smoke rings like that!!!
They wouldn't look as cool, either
is that a VW engine in there?😜😜
Greta are you watching 😂
How dare YOU!!!! 😆
@@mark-1rc502 you have stolen my future😂😂😂
《Greta Tunbergh: How dare you!?🤢😒😥》😂
I think she had a heart attack because of this 😂
@@daniel16.4 haha greta should come a see a 37 cold start she would love the beauty of it
And now AC/DC,s latest hit!
I thought they phased out steam because of pollution :-)
Well you thought wrong
Steam was replaced for efficiency speed and distance....
And I'm glad cos I hate steam...
This sounds like a song
My planet ? how dare you little troll suck this up
I never tire of seeing these fantastic 37s
Are you not well
In Germany Diesel Locos had a heating system for the coolant to prevent this sorta hard cold start didn't UK Locos have that ?
What species of dolphin is this? Lol
That 37 produces a Techno Beat !
Would love to see more of these cold starts
ruclips.net/video/UYZN5qGR2lw/видео.html
That's one of my favorites locos . I've never seen it up close though.. probably never will
Yes baby! She sounds like 53 thwaites dumpers all starting on a January morning!
Lovely! A typically grumpy cold start from an EE. Leave her to warm up, the smoke will clear....
37 Cold start competition.
sounds like Depeche mode instrumental
Quelle gueule elle a, cette CC Britannique. Son surnom de "tracteur" lui sied à ravir car elle un bruit magnifique. Merci pour ce document.
Mon oncle les a conduits dans le sud du Pays de Galles pendant des années.
They must chew some diesel starting up those huge engines! But they sound good on a cold day I've stood near many a one at traction depots around the UK on freezing cold days/nights choking on diesel fumes lol 😆
It's a 11,304 cu.in / 185 L beast, so it does use a bit of fuel.
Wish they would put this sound card on the model trains!
I’m a vintage enthusiast, and certainly no tree hugger, but I just don’t think this is cool these days. Much as I love 37’s clouds of unburnt diesel going into the atmosphere is not good
Train porn right there!
About how much does the engine weigh, just broadly 3 or 30t? Hard to find information on weights of the actual engine of locomotives
My comment was directed to gretta thunburg
Look at all those jellyfish escaping out the top of the train. You wonder how they get in there...
Yahoo !! These and the 55s are my favourite.
Thats one of the best running ones I've heard. What happened to the body panels though?
I’ve noticed that on a lot of locos the body sheeting looks a bit wrinkly.
It's to do with the slight twisting/movement of the chassis over time. They're generally pretty smooth when built, but over the years all the pulling/braking a loco does flexes the chassis slightly, and the thin body panels will wrinkle slightly in response. Totally normal, if a little ugly.
@@jakethadley I never even thought of that but it makes sense. Thanks for the info.
Knowing what caused it also makes me think of it more as beauty marks. Signs of a well earned life.
Over zealous sand blasting, the heat generated in the metal warps it.
@@jakethadleygood try but no, not that at all.
A Symbol for all fossile Cheater Cars with internal combustine Engine.
Just so you're aware a new channel called 'Engine Modders' has ripped this one and uploaded as their own.
37 884 which I helped fix today sounded a little smoother starting than this one
Best diesel ever built.
Deltic !!!!!!!
A wee DPF filter wouldnt go amiss here 😅
Proper cloud maker 😊
Greta Thunberg be rolling
Was literally about to go to bed, switch off RUclips….but then I’ll just see this cold start diesel…..
The sound of true love
We used to have this types of locomotives in sweden, 70 years ago, but not anymore
i love that sound that sounds like an opera soprano singing an u vowel
Why do the 37s hunt on tickover? The sulzers don't do this....
Bizim tarikatın melodisi lan bu
Amazing !!
I'm like that in the mornings!
Yeah remember that noise from my time at march tmd.
Wow.
Sounds like a damn song XD
Grazy cold start of the engine. It seems linke a cold start of the diesel without a warm up.
It's normal for a cold EE CSVT engine. There is no block heater, no glow plugs. You just continuously crank them until you get at least 3 or 4 (out of 12 for the 37s) cylinders firing, then leave them for half an hour to warm up. The operating manual for them allows you to crank them for something like up to 5 or 10 minutes when starting from cold. That's how they were designed, and they are built to handle it. Vulcan Foundry knew what they were doing, as this magnificent machine has been working just like that for the last 60+ years (with a few rebuilds over the years), and you still have some of them in mainline service (not just preservation). The smoke will clear up once the massive block gets reasonably hot.
That’s sounds epic! Why do they struggle to start so much though?
Some of these engines are 40-50 years old and this one is starting in very cold conditions which means the engine takes longer to warm up, i've seen hundreds of diesel start ups in winter and this is actually quite fast as its a regular use engine
Temperature
Diesel engines don't run well when cold (if they did, they wouldn't run well at operating temperature). Passenger cars have a glow-plug heater in the engine so that they start without emitting so much unburned fuel, but trains are only expected to be started once a day and so they run without the cost / weight of a glow plug system. Pre-environmental issues ...
The little engine that could!
Vähän röpöttää.😂
Class 40, is that you?
Love this ❤😂😂😂
Its crying
Awsome😊
Звук турбокомпрессоров👍
Чичо ми ги караше в Уелс.
That starter motor oh wow, sounds like the long haired bloke singing in last year,s Eurovision song contest, main feature the Tractor coughing wheezing popping chugging to life, both turbos whistling as cool backing vocals.
No starter motor.
Okay then how is the Tractor Started?.@@12crepello
@@basiltaylor8910 The generator (this is a diesel electric) is used as a starter by applying a current to it. Therefore there is no separate starter motor.
I know the Tractor is diesel electric using a concept in some pre war cars, called a Dynastarter a combination starter generator, current stored in battery packs is fed to motor the generator in order to start the diesel@@12crepello,in the Tractors case via a set of reduction gears ,making it sound like the starter motor on a family car .
No there are two Electric starter Motors
A question guys when they designed the engine for these locomotives was there an engine pre heater system installed? If not why I wonder did no one consider this. I get nervous listening to the engine trying to turn over and get up to pressure. As a mechanical engineer all that cold metal against cold metal concerns me. without sounding pretentious I would have designed preheated system possibly run off MPD workshop source that would have got the engine lubrication system, fuel up to a pre determined temperature so as to make starting easy on components and operations of. Just me being concerned about the process and how to remedy it. Great video production 🙂
Because this shit was designed in the '50s
Gorgeous!!!!
The sound of the Napier, 18 cylinder 2stroke, supercharged, Diesel coming to life is music to the hear, the firing order is unique as engine has no valves, 18 pistons and 3 crankshafts... ✌️
Update Wheel arrangement: Co-Co.
Origin: English Electric type 3 locomotive built by English Electric at Newton-le-Willows in 1963.
Engine/power: English Electric 12CSVT, Turbo-charged and Intercooled, 1750hp at 850rpm. ...
Length over buffers: 61ft. ...
Working weight: 105 tons.
Maximum speed: 90 mph.
My mistake not Deltic nor Napier powered ✌️ & 💚
Just to make you aware.. i assume you know that 37's dont use the napier?
Not a deltic startup , but still sounds Brilliant !!!
EE 12CSVT
Apart from it’s not a Deltic and not even a Napier engine 😀
You are thinking of a Tractor on Acid ,a Class 55 Deltic, essentially a Tractor that underwent a stiff course of steroids ,acid tabs and ketamine.
Is this process normal?
If it is cold yes :)
@@airspeed_alive
Thank you
It was standard practice in the UK to leave them running for days or weeks back in the 70s and 80s.
@@kristan999 why?
@@ARDEN440i cheap cost of fuel back then
Your neighbours must have been delighted with that toxic cloud!
The starter motors in the EE engines must have got bloody hot on long cranking on these huge diesels?I bet you touch one without gloves on.
Think there are starter windings in the generator.
No starter motor.
Volkeswagen engin?
You must drive a citroen
@@paulgaskin269 Iveco.
R.I.P. Ozone layer
The similarity in sound to ME starting up in the morning PRIOR to a large cuppa Coffee is remarkable .... ! 🤔😳🤙😆☕️🚆
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Greta bumberg 😁