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  • Опубликовано: 18 мар 2018
  • 50049 coughs & splutters into life at Derby 19th March 2018 after being shut down for 2 freezing nights

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  • @surebrec5113
    @surebrec5113 4 года назад +137

    I just watched nearly 9 minutes of someone trying to start a train.
    if this is not testament to the fact that I'll sit and watch anything late at night when I can't sleep, I don't know what is.

    • @vondahe
      @vondahe 4 года назад +11

      Surebrec Some of us even watch it, struggling not to fall asleep.

    • @philiprhodes5537
      @philiprhodes5537 4 года назад +2

      🤣🤣🤣😂

    • @BlueSteel331
      @BlueSteel331 4 года назад +9

      actually it's a *locomotive* - not a 'train'.

    • @surebrec5113
      @surebrec5113 4 года назад +3

      @@BlueSteel331 thanks pedant.

    • @fft2020
      @fft2020 4 года назад +6

      Its 1 am mate... this is the 4th loco start video for me tonite

  • @tontobb8956
    @tontobb8956 Год назад +60

    A round of applause for the true hero in this story
    The battery and his cousin the starter motor
    We bow down to your endurance

    • @richardraynor5242
      @richardraynor5242 Год назад +6

      I found it hard to tell exactly when it was running under its own power 🙂

    • @sverek
      @sverek Год назад +3

      @@richardraynor5242 That's actually interesting, I have very little knowledge on diesel engines. As I understand some cylinders started to properly combust before others, as you can tell by the color of the smoke from each exhaust. So this could mean that cylinders that did good combust pushed the crankshaft and helped other cylinders?

    • @pixel288
      @pixel288 Год назад +5

      Just the battery. Usually on big locos like this the use the main generator as a starter. Run power through them and the turn, turn ‘em and they make power.

    • @CreRay
      @CreRay 5 месяцев назад

      @@sverek Correct

    • @forrestkoland5296
      @forrestkoland5296 Месяц назад

      How about a little starting fluid?

  • @funkymonkeypimps
    @funkymonkeypimps 5 лет назад +299

    14 icebergs, 3 rainforests and a David Attenborough were killed in the starting of this loco!

    • @benconway9010
      @benconway9010 5 лет назад +36

      Don't be daft this would never kill attenborough hes totally invincible

    • @RONNEY123ful
      @RONNEY123ful 4 года назад +5

      Funkymonkeypimps 😂😂😂

    • @wolfe1970
      @wolfe1970 4 года назад +10

      Most of what you see here is just steam...

    • @gerardjones7881
      @gerardjones7881 4 года назад +7

      I'll pay for the deisel.

    • @philiprhodes5537
      @philiprhodes5537 4 года назад +4

      Oddly enough i was just thinking how the ozone layer faired up with all that pollution i reckon its totalled now and the hole in it is now the size of a black hole

  • @juliemason9784
    @juliemason9784 5 лет назад +117

    I wish my car would start as quickly and smoothly as this in the mornings.

    • @adenlamb9916
      @adenlamb9916 5 лет назад +20

      I wish *I* could start as quickly and smoothly as this in the mornings.

    • @benconway9010
      @benconway9010 5 лет назад +5

      I wish my car would start full stop

    • @jijzer3284
      @jijzer3284 4 года назад +1

      Looks like my start in the morning

    • @spacebanana1
      @spacebanana1 4 года назад +3

      I wish I had a car

    • @fft2020
      @fft2020 4 года назад +1

      quickly and smoothly hahahahahahaha
      I wish I would start this quickly and smoothly every morning

  • @richardpotter712
    @richardpotter712 3 года назад +34

    I liked the way the driver opened the window for some fresh air.

    • @ru8775
      @ru8775 Год назад

      Ja 😂

    • @chrisn5079
      @chrisn5079 7 месяцев назад

      If they had revved her up a little, this problem wouldn't have lasted 30 minutes. Instead they keep her at dead idle. 😕

  • @termite2691
    @termite2691 4 года назад +44

    I was eagerly awaiting the moment it started to run properly and purr like a finely tuned beast ... but sadly all that happened was the video ended.

    • @chroni493
      @chroni493 Год назад +1

      @@satunnainenkatselija4478 the limit is at 30 minutes for cameras! The 10 minutes are mostly from slow SD cards/storage or sometimes overheating of the camera itself.

    • @IstasPumaNevada
      @IstasPumaNevada Год назад

      @@satunnainenkatselija4478 As Chroni said, it's 30 minutes, not 10. My DSLR's video length is capped at exactly 29:59 for this reason.
      I happily would've paid the extra tax on my camera model for it to not have an artificial video length. Ah well.

  • @shane4849
    @shane4849 5 лет назад +123

    And there's me cleaning out jam jars and recycling them to save the planet........

    • @markwilson8002
      @markwilson8002 4 года назад +19

      Yeah.... But it's the thought that counts

    • @richardcoles2432
      @richardcoles2432 4 года назад +11

      This made me chuckle

    • @robwells5753
      @robwells5753 3 года назад +2

      Do it for your country

    • @Housephonestimes4
      @Housephonestimes4 2 года назад +12

      Stop concentrating on ONE HEADS, and think about 19000 trees being cut down every minute! A diesel locomotive is only a ONE HEAD! I am sick and tired of people accusing ONE HEADS of harming our planet!

    • @shane4849
      @shane4849 2 года назад +3

      @@Housephonestimes4 who took jam outa your doughnut? Calm down it was only a joke 👍🏼😂😂😂

  • @angelaclemow1544
    @angelaclemow1544 5 лет назад +23

    Just love love love the 50's !!! superb sound and remember it so well climbing Sapperton bank - you dont get much better than that - what a sound .......

  • @richardk29
    @richardk29 5 лет назад +46

    Some say it still isn't running on all cylinders to this day...

    • @grahamstretch6863
      @grahamstretch6863 3 года назад +11

      If the fuel injection was made by Lucas they are probably right! 🤣

    • @cidertom5140
      @cidertom5140 21 день назад +1

      @@grahamstretch6863could be CAV.

  • @gdogg3710
    @gdogg3710 4 года назад +22

    That was like an extended intro version of ‘Hot for teacher’ by Van Halen...

  • @jpsholland
    @jpsholland 3 года назад +38

    All countries: locomotive startup look like an locomotive startup
    England: locomotive startup look like an eruption of the Vesuvius...

  • @Rivenworld
    @Rivenworld 4 года назад +13

    OMG! I remember coming into Selhurst depot to work one morning many year ago and seeing something similar, the fog was so thick you could only see about 3 feet ahead of you, and the smell of diesel! Wow!

  • @MrJimbaloid
    @MrJimbaloid 5 лет назад +6

    EE's ALWAYS we're grumpy when cold and have not improved with age but they are still magnificent.

  • @v6200man
    @v6200man 6 лет назад +9

    Great sequencing of popping and banging there John - love the fuel combusts!!

  • @MrScotia
    @MrScotia 5 лет назад +98

    Jesus Christ the smoke was even coming out of my laptop....cough cough

    • @goinghomesomeday1
      @goinghomesomeday1 5 лет назад +5

      Splutter - Splutter - Fart - Fart and Band :-)

    • @g8ymw
      @g8ymw 5 лет назад +4

      You can almost taste the unburñed diesel

    • @scdevon
      @scdevon 5 лет назад +5

      Ever see a Budd RDC rail car cold start its Detroit Diesels? The whole area code gets smoked out. No wonder you used to see old diesels sitting around idling all the time in winter.

    • @adrianmorris3772
      @adrianmorris3772 4 года назад +2

      Jesus Christ is sacred.......have respect please.

    • @grahamstretch6863
      @grahamstretch6863 3 года назад +1

      Adrian Morris
      Jesus Christ you religious nuts get everywhere! god, jesus and all the rest are as fictitious as superman and batman! 🙄🙄
      This is a real locomotive and real smoke, get over yourself!

  • @r3playretro
    @r3playretro 3 года назад +5

    The whole of Derby smelt loco 50049 exhaust fumes that morning. Wonderful

  • @andypreston1524
    @andypreston1524 6 лет назад +2

    How gorgeous! Thanks John, great vid as always!

  • @reini3006
    @reini3006 Год назад +2

    Definition of EE Diesel loco:
    Cross breed of smoke screen generator and flamethrower :-)
    Love these old locos!

  • @trevortrevortsr2
    @trevortrevortsr2 6 лет назад +161

    I recon VW got them through emmisions : )

    • @tomlowe8563
      @tomlowe8563 5 лет назад +6

      Trev S I don't buy polos at the local sweet shop purely for their emissions😜

    • @harrytd
      @harrytd 5 лет назад

      Ha, ha brilliant!

    • @user-kh4ns2vu6m
      @user-kh4ns2vu6m 5 лет назад

      @@harrytd
      Жақсы кун

    • @davidsedlickas8222
      @davidsedlickas8222 4 года назад +2

      VW killed more brits than the Luftwaffe.

  • @terryhunt9595
    @terryhunt9595 5 лет назад

    Brilliant rendition of this! Well put together!!

  • @Ste30h
    @Ste30h 5 лет назад +3

    awesome! i remember them passing my house some nights helping install the new electric system :( ,,,,such a great noise and the horns were brilliant...oh the good old days.

  • @MrRonan3
    @MrRonan3 5 лет назад +136

    my wife said. what are you watching in their?. 9 minutes of filf i said,

  • @DOCTORDROTT
    @DOCTORDROTT 5 лет назад +5

    In BR days the engines were not shut down that often, only for maintenance.I have worked on all types of diesel traction over decades including 50's This was two days ! So we never got to this stage of the 50. Check out the cold start class 60 video. I was on that job. Loco shut down for a week. Flat batteries and ice in the cabs. That took a couple of hours to charge up and run right. It would only run on two cylinders to start with

    • @nomon95
      @nomon95 5 лет назад

      yeap,started with two cylinders only. But something was wrong,compression rings, or if it have a charger,a ckeck is necesary. took a lot of tme for warm . the batteries is correct,loose a lot of energy in cold days.

  • @conkeroonee
    @conkeroonee 6 лет назад +18

    That's why you don't shut them down in freezing weather. Great video ! !

  • @DieyoungDiefast
    @DieyoungDiefast 5 лет назад +17

    Slightly different, but it reminds me of trying to start a Foden 6x6 gun tractor in the workshop yard one winter in the late 80s. 6 Cylinder Rolls Royce Eagle engine and after about 30 secs cranking I got it to fire on one cylinder. The amount of white smoke coming out of the exhaust was like a thick fog bank, couldn't see anything. Think it took me 10 mins before it was running on all 6. Gotta love the smell of unburnt diesel in the morning ;)

    • @andrewlee4938
      @andrewlee4938 4 года назад

      DieyoungDiefast sounds very similar to one of my dads old leylands with the eagle in it Miss that smell and the anticipation trying to work out if it would get on the road that day

  • @muttt.whopull3252
    @muttt.whopull3252 4 года назад +42

    This loco has stolen my childhood, how dare you!!!

    • @markjones4704
      @markjones4704 4 года назад +2

      And my dreams how dare you start it up

    • @gerardjones7881
      @gerardjones7881 4 года назад +2

      We come to you for answers.
      What's the answer?

    • @markjones4704
      @markjones4704 4 года назад +2

      More trees and plants around he world they filter all that shit out and give us oxygen she should be on a world tour raising cash to grow and plant them everywhere starting in China surely its common sense

    • @johnmilburn5715
      @johnmilburn5715 Месяц назад

      I'm sure I saw Greater Turdberg splutter8ng her way thro7gh 5hat 😊

  • @nomon95
    @nomon95 6 лет назад +15

    Start with only two cylinders,,the othere generates clag ,very flammable,and this is the reason for the splutters and flames

  • @anthonybaker1224
    @anthonybaker1224 5 лет назад +45

    There's nothing like clean air....and thats nothing like clean air.

    • @utharkruna1116
      @utharkruna1116 3 года назад +2

      That's cause there's nothing like big diesel.

  • @nigelterry9299
    @nigelterry9299 5 лет назад +17

    Another typically grumpy, one cylinder at a time, EE cold start. I love 'em!!!!

  • @andyrigby5010
    @andyrigby5010 5 лет назад +7

    Defiance was definitely feeling defiant that day, lol :) Great Job John!!

    • @arthurstrainset7871
      @arthurstrainset7871 4 года назад +1

      I work as a volunteer on the Watercress line in Hampshire, we have a class 50 called Lion, it s owned by a private family and I was fortunate enough to be in the cab when they started it up for testing, what a great sound when 16 cylinders come to life!

  • @groggers
    @groggers 5 лет назад +33

    You either like the environment or heritage diesels... I'll take the trains thanks

    • @utharkruna1116
      @utharkruna1116 4 года назад +7

      I love the environment and nature, but i really love big diesel motors.

    • @ws1ashford304
      @ws1ashford304 4 года назад +5

      Same @Urhark Runa

    • @Hai_da
      @Hai_da 3 года назад +3

      Don't really have a choice if there's to be a sustainable future

    • @prinz10ga
      @prinz10ga 3 года назад +1

      I love trains.... that said Greg is hopelessly what’s wrong with environmental issues

  • @Phil6219
    @Phil6219 3 года назад +7

    This is like me trying to get up at 4 am on a Monday morning...

  • @CFRTrainSpotter
    @CFRTrainSpotter 5 лет назад

    No comment on how amazing this is! Good work!

  • @stbu9709
    @stbu9709 3 года назад +5

    This reminds me of an Austin Montego I had many moons ago!
    The automatic choke (remember them?) wouldn’t operate when cold, but would suddenly open wide when the engine got hot! It burnt gallons of leaded! 😂

  • @rowanlidbury
    @rowanlidbury 5 лет назад +3

    Epic start! How long would you have to keep you finger on the starter in this video..?

  • @dampfonautl8754
    @dampfonautl8754 8 месяцев назад +1

    Well, my car could drive 50 miles or more on this enormous amount of diesel fuel vaporized 😅 But seriously, here in Germany diesel locos are connected to the power grid when not on duty, to load the batteries and keep the motor warm by electrically heating the cooling system. Older locos could be pre heated with steam or had a small auxiliary diesel engine to warm up the coolant of the main engine.

  • @alanmusicman3385
    @alanmusicman3385 Год назад +1

    Love the 50s - but they did get very dog eared toward the end of their mainline use. I remember getting into the leading coach of a train at Waterlook in the very late 1980s. A class 50 was pulling and there was a very strong smell of fuel (not exhaust) coming from it. There were a group of anoraks in the very front seats taking bets with one another about where it would fail (as they very often did then). The smell persisted through the journey. I got out at Woking so I don't know who won the bet!

  • @vingotaq777
    @vingotaq777 4 года назад +7

    It was a relief when he finally opened that throttle a little at 7:03

  • @johngoodale4961
    @johngoodale4961  5 лет назад +1

    Yes these are preserved & 4 or 5 class 50's come out on the main line occasionally still. There are also class 20's class 37's & 47's still on the main line all be it only a few

  • @nails6365
    @nails6365 5 лет назад +1

    about time we had smokeless deisel ! good vid thank you

  • @jamesgarlick2532
    @jamesgarlick2532 5 месяцев назад

    Beautiful 😍 🤩 love my deseal train shame see many them but do love watching them ❤❤❤

  • @robinfryer479
    @robinfryer479 Год назад +2

    I’m surprised that they don’t have immersion heaters in their cooling systems, to keep their cylinder blocks warm. Similarly their sumps. Some big engines have steam trace to mitigate the effects of thermal stressing.

  • @smogmonster1876
    @smogmonster1876 4 года назад +11

    I didn’t know the class 50 was a steam loco.

  • @thebrummierailenthusiasts5329
    @thebrummierailenthusiasts5329 6 лет назад +3

    looks like the class 50 locomotive of 50049 looks like its struggling to fire up john that way it keeps on spluttering

  • @gcfcos
    @gcfcos 5 лет назад +5

    Wow what a beast! Must have been bloody cold that engine

    • @adammoss5284
      @adammoss5284 9 месяцев назад

      I’m reckoning Jack Frost had a merry old dance the night before

  • @southwalesrailproductions8748
    @southwalesrailproductions8748 6 лет назад +4

    Superb video!

  • @jaketaylor3611
    @jaketaylor3611 6 лет назад +11

    Music to my ears!

  • @22pcirish
    @22pcirish 5 лет назад

    A number of other groups with similar power units are fitting lube oil preheaters. Maybe to be considered in this case?

  • @vsvnrg3263
    @vsvnrg3263 5 лет назад +1

    i can't remember where i saw it, but i'm sure i saw a russian crew start a difficult loco under bloody cold conditions by holding a lit diesel soaked rag over the engine intake. it worked a treat. another trick which may or may not work on a diesel was butane. i watched a bloke hold the nozzle of a portable burner gas can down aiming it at the intake while pull starting a flooded chainsaw. the butane got the thing to start in spite of being well and truly flooded by yours truly who had borrowed it of him. he said the trick worked for all engines.

  • @timsharkey1993
    @timsharkey1993 4 года назад +3

    “Um, Sir Topham Hatt? This is the main switchboard, sir. There is a Ms Ocasio-Cortez on line one for you.”

  • @jimjackson4256
    @jimjackson4256 Год назад +2

    That is one heck of a starter motor.A block heater and some quickstart would speed the process along.

    • @scdevon
      @scdevon Год назад

      Healthy batteries, too if these start on battery power. I think sometimes they need battery boosters to cold start, but it seems like this one started on its own..

  • @floridajake58
    @floridajake58 9 месяцев назад

    These old girls are frickin bulletproof. Very well-built locomotives.

  • @gosportjamie
    @gosportjamie 5 лет назад +26

    Engine room, this is the Captain. Make smoke...

    • @pauljohansson7697
      @pauljohansson7697 5 лет назад +1

      Hell yeah we will.

    • @benconway9010
      @benconway9010 5 лет назад +2

      Set a smoke screen!!!!

    • @Kris-qy7hh
      @Kris-qy7hh 4 года назад +5

      Warships in WW2 should’ve had this as a smoke generator 🤣

  • @thechilledonion9313
    @thechilledonion9313 2 года назад +4

    And remember, it is against the law to smoke on the platforms.

  • @amessman
    @amessman 3 месяца назад

    Do you guys leave them running over there in the UK? Here in the states the power usually just sits idling when not used, to keep it warm. Newer locos turn on and off periodically and some have auxiliary engines to keep coolant warm.

  • @chrisbarnes2823
    @chrisbarnes2823 Год назад

    Now if there was only a way to pre-heat the engine in day and age??
    In our Canadian winter my diesel truck stays in my garage overnight and has a block plus oil pan heater, there is also a heater pad on the transmission pan.

  • @confusedwolf7157
    @confusedwolf7157 4 года назад +7

    How I feel starting in mornings!!

  • @vengaboydk
    @vengaboydk 5 лет назад +8

    Can't help wondering how much diesel was spent on this!

  • @ianhosier4042
    @ianhosier4042 2 года назад +1

    Reminds me of the car I had when I was a student except that loco is a lot easier to start and probably doesnt leak water, oil and brake fluid! It gives a brand new meaning to the term not firing on all cylinders.

  • @Xetta_Mode
    @Xetta_Mode Год назад +1

    The diesel was trying to spit a fire mixtape before getting to work 😂

  • @anth7354
    @anth7354 5 лет назад +10

    The Euro 6 engine still needs work

  • @JeffreyStrader
    @JeffreyStrader 2 года назад +2

    Technically one could hook up a Diesel Locomotive to the power grid and use it for electrical power in a small town.

  • @peterwoods5310
    @peterwoods5310 5 лет назад +1

    Ships engines are fitted standard with fuel pre-heating.

  • @oddities-whatnot
    @oddities-whatnot 5 лет назад +1

    Nice tune its playing as the smoke fills the nostrils. Id be late for work if my van took that long to start !

  • @Thornaby37
    @Thornaby37 2 года назад

    Give it a high speed run out to Chesterfield and back, and it'll be fine
    I've seen D8098 and D5830 start up like this at the Great Central on cold winter mornings in the past, and a couple of hours later they were running perfectly

  • @MagnetOnlyMotors
    @MagnetOnlyMotors 4 года назад +8

    2:01 like seeing flames come out.

  • @shobuddy
    @shobuddy 4 года назад +11

    That startup burned enough fuel to fill the tank in my car.

    • @g8ymw
      @g8ymw 3 года назад +3

      Quite possible, 10 inch bore, 12 inch stroke and 16 of them

    • @glennpowell3444
      @glennpowell3444 Год назад +1

      @@g8ymw With a big bang firing order aswell.EE,s were fantastic but were pigs to start and each cylinder to catch.Two pots firing at a time running down the crank from end to end.The turbos blew alot of diesel out which tried to ignite and caused the flames.Love them.

  • @ReZiN8R
    @ReZiN8R 6 лет назад +29

    I think this video should be age restricted it's absolute pure filth!!! I've searched a few times in the past for hoover cold starts and this is definitely best class 50 start up vid i've ever seen. Cheers for uploading. You've done a brilliant job!! :) I really miss the days we had proper loco's instead of all the aweful imported garden sheds and buses on rails like now. Wish i'd been at Derby to see this beast. I'll never forget how happy i felt seeing my first 50 in Waterloo before they got withdrawn from service. :(

    • @bababooey7576
      @bababooey7576 5 лет назад

      40145 cold start at Castle Croft is an awesome start up.. slightly different class, but the same kind enough to awesomeness.

    • @vsvnrg3263
      @vsvnrg3263 5 лет назад +1

      rezin8r, that imported yank shit has a proven record of performance and ultra reliability. check out some yank or canadian videos and see the size of the trains in the most efficient rail systems in the world. uk and europe still use coupling systems invented in the early 1800's. english electric locos may have been an equal to yank stuff 60 years ago. since then, the english companies built shit knowing the home market would buy it and allowed quality to drop. fail. the europeans still have faith in hydraulics. fail. even the chinese will import big yank shit. because they are running railways for profit, not fun palaces for us train nerds. by the way it took a while to work out the meaning of your name-very clever. i'm impressed. i'm not easily impressed.

  • @jijzer3284
    @jijzer3284 6 лет назад

    Love it thank for sharing

  • @johngoodale4961
    @johngoodale4961  5 лет назад +1

    David yes its own batteries are the power for starting

  • @johnheyworth6001
    @johnheyworth6001 5 лет назад +2

    Beautiful.

  • @stestewart1119
    @stestewart1119 5 лет назад +7

    And to add you dont get this on hornby DCC sound lol

  • @Gavs_rc_hobbies
    @Gavs_rc_hobbies 4 года назад +105

    I can just imagine Greta Thunberg sitting in a corner rocking back and forth sucking her thumb watching this loco start up lol.

    • @stratfanatic
      @stratfanatic 4 года назад +3

      Marvellous innit..

    • @papabits5721
      @papabits5721 4 года назад +4

      xrayracer1 but she’s so adorable! People who don’t understand this kind of thing will never get it

    • @maddogmcrae
      @maddogmcrae 4 года назад +4

      How dare you!!! 😂

    • @ebddenby8439
      @ebddenby8439 3 года назад

      Joking aside where Gretta is consernd I feel for her she is scripted by the government who are officially exploiting a teen and a person with a hidden disability Greta is asperges we are passionate about what we are led to believe but she is far to young to be leading a campaign. Also been asperges like me which a lot of people litrally only 8 years ago would call us spastics Its going to be hard when the government drop her like a hot brick I bet the eco followers won't care for her then. They won't give her a second thought. That's what pains me about Gretta not the false emmisions scam the fact these big wigs are ruining her life without a second thought.

    • @Irish7992
      @Irish7992 3 года назад +1

      Lol why would you imagine that?

  • @john522982
    @john522982 5 лет назад +1

    That is actually more smoke than the old Metro-vicks (Class 28) used to produce!

  • @tommystearns3073
    @tommystearns3073 5 лет назад +3

    I love watching these english locos struggle to cold start and warm up with all the sputtering and backfiring

  • @MrJimbaloid
    @MrJimbaloid 5 лет назад +2

    Henry Taysom check your settings I can't reply to you tx Mr Jimbaloid

  • @imacgra1
    @imacgra1 5 лет назад +2

    G W Awdrey wrote ".. a fill of oil, a touch of the starter, and off I go!" Obviously he summarised.

  • @marioGarcia-du9eh
    @marioGarcia-du9eh 3 года назад +3

    sounds like my neighbors Harley every morning at 5:00AM!

  • @theflyingfool
    @theflyingfool Год назад

    3.05 disconnects the jump start battery leads... did these things use glowplugs or just friction of the rings ion the bore to light the diesel?

  • @TheGWRailfan
    @TheGWRailfan 4 года назад +9

    Show this to the green party bet they'd love it!

  • @paulanderson79
    @paulanderson79 5 лет назад +1

    Sounds like my father-in-law's treasured but neglected 5 Series.

  • @davidsmith6355
    @davidsmith6355 2 года назад

    how many gallons of diesel does it take to start up?

  • @fft2020
    @fft2020 4 года назад +1

    Guys guys guys .... that smoke is mostly unburnt fuel that quickly precipitates out of the air as black sooth and grease... there is only a bit of CO2 and some NOx but nothing fantastic and different from a normal engine operation
    Because the smoke is visible people stress out with this environment thing...

    • @johngoodale4961
      @johngoodale4961  4 года назад +2

      Well said! It's really amusing reading some of the nonsense posted here!

  • @goinghomesomeday1
    @goinghomesomeday1 5 лет назад +10

    Often wondered why the never invented a system of preheating the cylinders or air intake to make starting easier. There is a lot to be said for the flaming rag or blowlamp :-)

    • @listonoszpat233
      @listonoszpat233 5 лет назад

      Bo to angielska technika i mentalność :-) w Polsce silniki kolejowe mogą być palone tylko na ciepło po podgrzaniu wody chłodzącej i oleju ruclips.net/video/qkuK1cPC-5k/видео.html

    • @goinghomesomeday1
      @goinghomesomeday1 5 лет назад

      Yes I agree. I know that Land Rover had (maybe still have) a pre-heater system on some of their cars.
      Nice video link by the way - Thanks.

    • @goinghomesomeday1
      @goinghomesomeday1 5 лет назад

      Hello pmailkeey - What I was referring to was of a system to preheat the engine before starting it. Land Rover have a system available like that.

    • @listonoszpat233
      @listonoszpat233 5 лет назад

      Wiem o co chodzi .U nas we wojsku miały taki podgrzewacz niektóre Stary 266. To trochę droga ale fajna rzecz. Dawniej też często zakładano grzałki elektryczne z sieci do podgrzewania cieczy bądź oleju .Ale zimy nie są już tak mocne więc mało kto to stosuje.Rosjanie mają fajną metodę zwłaszcza na Syberii.Zamiast podgrzewacza stosują mały benzynowy silnik rozruchowy który w razie potrzeby swym ciepłem podgrzewa duży silnik a potem go odpala ruclips.net/video/zR6zjcneelo/видео.html
      Pozdrawiam.

    • @highdownmartin
      @highdownmartin 5 лет назад +5

      goinghomesomeday1 they used to be left running but people who've bought houses next to railway yards complain and the railway have to shut them down rather than just telling those same people to FUCK OFF

  • @fatboyjai
    @fatboyjai 3 года назад

    Silly question but I’ll ask anyway, way fo diesel trains do this but not other Diesel engines, is it because of their size ?

    • @johngoodale4961
      @johngoodale4961  3 года назад

      I think so plus there's no glow plugs like a car diesel or pre-heating so you're relying on compression to create heat to combust the diesel. Most of the "smoke" is unburnt diesel vapour

  • @formidable38
    @formidable38 6 лет назад +2

    Simply beautiful ear candy!

  • @GroveDave
    @GroveDave 5 лет назад +2

    And they used to say the steam engines were dirty!

  • @RUFU58
    @RUFU58 Год назад

    This is what it’s like starting my old fiesta in the morning at the moment with this cold snap.

  • @dinmorejunctionmodelrailway
    @dinmorejunctionmodelrailway 3 года назад +1

    Most excellent. Pure magic. 🚂🚃🚃🚃

  • @andygotting9152
    @andygotting9152 5 лет назад +1

    My old Renault\Dodge Commando used to start like this.

  • @SuperCarManUK
    @SuperCarManUK Год назад +1

    Rumour has it his finger is still on the starter button

  • @stefankassbohrer2765
    @stefankassbohrer2765 4 года назад +1

    Why do the engines start so bad when cold? Is it the large displacement ? Aren´t the engines preheated or don´t they have a flame start system in the air intake pipe, like a truck ? As i know the engine oil is pre-heated and the engine is getting pre-lubricated before starting. Greetings from south Germany

    • @johngoodale4961
      @johngoodale4961  4 года назад +2

      No pre-heat here just a large cold V16 coming to life slowly

  • @cobbyone
    @cobbyone 6 лет назад +14

    Cold starts are not good for the engine. Locos need pre heaters to prevent this.

    • @EPVids330
      @EPVids330 4 года назад +3

      It’s an old loco

    • @bonkeydollocks1879
      @bonkeydollocks1879 4 года назад +1

      In regular service they hardly ever got shut down so having no preheaters didn't really matter as the need to start efficiently didn't arise that often

  • @cameronrich3627
    @cameronrich3627 5 лет назад +48

    That's another load of environmentalists just had fits !

    • @holnrew
      @holnrew 4 года назад +6

      Why? Rail travel and haulage is much better for the environment than road.

    • @johnanderson3853
      @johnanderson3853 2 года назад

      Let them walk from the bottom of England to the north, swim across the channel, and take the silk road to china and then sail to Japan.

    • @RightAwayProductions005
      @RightAwayProductions005 2 года назад +1

      Thing is, right, im 16, im aware of the climate, i dont doubt climate change exists, im worried abt it, but i find stuff like this enjoyable to say the least. What does that say abt me😂

  • @thomaspalmer1019
    @thomaspalmer1019 5 лет назад +3

    I have heard even a Class 37 make a better startup sound than a Class 50.

  • @2E0PGS
    @2E0PGS 5 лет назад +1

    Damn that's a proper train video!

  • @apollo156
    @apollo156 4 года назад +10

    Amazing diesel engine sound

  • @markbarraclough7456
    @markbarraclough7456 3 года назад +3

    Once had a Honda Accord, that took longer to start than this train, and it was eay more clag lol

  • @rogercantwell3622
    @rogercantwell3622 4 года назад +1

    It's still only running on about 8 by the end. Didn't EE fit glowplugs?

    • @g8ymw
      @g8ymw 3 года назад

      Nope, just a decompressor ( valve lifter)

  • @RangieNZ
    @RangieNZ 5 лет назад

    At what point does the starter shut off?