I skated from 2002-2005 everyday and I could never get them. This sounds stupid but back then I was still on dialup internet and didn't have access to quality hd videos like this. My main problem was that quality of skate videos I was pirating on limewire were like 240p and I tried Chris Cole method on many videos but it would be blurry pixels. Now I'm getting back into skating this weekend for the first time two decades later and I have the confidence that I will land tre flip within the next year thanks to modern technology and videos like this! A lot has evolved in the skateboarding industry over the last 20 years that I have missed but man I'm glad to be back.
I learned them about 6 months into skating but only because I had an acquaintance, I wouldn't even really call him a friend, just some dude who would randomly show up to our spot and he could do 360 flips really well for the time but he wouldn't show anybody how to do them lol until one day he just says, it's like a varial flip but you just flick harder and that just opened up my mind and I learned them a week later. Funny Cause I knew so many people who were so so good but couldn't do 360 flips and they skated years before me and could do other great things. This was the mid 90s and I knew a guy who could switch hardflip 180, in 1996! That was nuts for the time but he never got 360 flips. I never understood it lol.
I know that feeling well. I had tre flips on lock one summer in high school (probably 2007), but then lost them when I wasn't skating all the time. For whatever reason they were a "use it or lose it" trick for me.
Interesting video. Agree with all of them but I’d add that with regular practice and repetition you actually build muscle that makes the pop/scoop easier. Once you start having enough power to pop a little more vertically the way it rotates will actually make them much easier to catch. I’m out of shape and practice but I used to have them so wired it was like doing an Ollie. Always thought that little extra power/verticality in the scoop is what made them so consistent for me.
Appleyard one of the steeziest 360 flips ever. Cole 360 flip Rincon and Wallenberg Joslin did Davis gap and though he doesn't count it, we all know he had the El Toro one! Couldn't ask for a better selection to represent that trick!
I’ve always been the opposite, I think the kicking foot is more important than the scooping foot for this trick. I tried the scoop way learning from Janoski trick tip. But the scoop just made it awkward, so I do back foot like a Pop Shovit. I go for popping it like a Pop Shovit to get more height and flick like a variel flip. Once I realized that I focused on getting my 360 Pop Shovits on lock first. Then after four months I finally got 360 flips solid on flat. I haven’t tried it off or down anything though, so hopefully I build confidence to try it off stuff.
I'd be interested in seeing a clip of your tre flip some time. Not to hate. But definetly want to see if you actually do the trick a little differently, or perhaps you just interpret/ visualise it differently. I'm sure you have a solid tre tho dude ✌️
It's like an unwritten rule you film skate tricks from the front, but I actually believe 360 flips look best filmed from behind! Think of Antwuan Dixon's famous one from Baker 3. My favorite 360 flip ever I believe, and perfect example, is in Baker 2g pissdrunx section, Erik Ellington is skating benches filmed telephoto. He does my favorite 360 flip of all time! Appleyard has an amazing one as shown here as do Joslin and Cole! Great video as usual!
Chris Cole gives up the goods at 0:44. That slight lean out and over the inside rail is the only way to get the leverage you need to get that back foot scoop in one smooth motion.
@@pistopit7142 Yes, exactly! When you scoop that back foot, you turn it inward slightly and your toe almost catches the edge of the board and zips it around. That’s the trick to getting it to rotate quick enough that it looks effortless, and also having it come up to meet your feet so you can actually “catch” it off the ground.
@@arty712 thanks. I got the scoop but still cannot land it with my back foot. Just a front foot catches it. I think I need to lean forward more as the board often ends up in front of me. This might sound strange but I look at the skater's head when they perform 360 flip becuase that kind of tells me how the body weight is redistributed. It looks that most of the skaters do a small loop with their head, they lean forward a lot as they crouch, then as they go up the head moves back a little towards the tail and finally at the last moment of the scoop, the head moves forward again. There are tutorials that tell you not to lean forward and focus entire body weight on the back. That is a bit missleading I think and it likely lead me to create bad habit for this trick.
Yo that's crazy how joslin said h He learned how to 360 flip off of stuff before he could do it on flat because thats literally how it was for me with frontside flips tho...i couldn't frontside flip on flat but i could frontisde flip down stairs sets and shit....idk its just always been hard for me trying to do the full front 180 with a flip in flat ...its like a basically do slow motion type of frontside flips ....i cant do them fast like most people so throwing them off of stuff gives me enough time to get the board full 180 with the flip....and its was funny how people always thought i was a beast doing frontside flips down big stair sets like it was nothing but little did they know it was so much easier for me to do it down big stair sets than it was on flat...
You couldn’t have picked 3 better skaters to talk about 360 flips. Cole & Joslin are responsible for the biggest / most iconic tre flips ever done. And Mark imo has the best looking tre flip of all time
I had a friend in the mid 90s that was constantly preaching to scoop your back foot for 360 flips cause this was at a time when Everybody was flicking their front foot really hard to make them flip and i just didn't get what he was saying till many years later, Cause I was pretty comfy flicking the shit out of them and I had em down stairs so I didn't think twice about them. I really wish I would taken the time to learn the scooping motion.
Haven’t skateboarded in years, cause I went back to blades, but I saw Appleyard and had to watch this. His first couple parts is what I was watched to get my 360 flips down. To anyone struggling to figure them out this is an amazing tutorial
This is the only proper video i could find where they talk about it springing up to your feet. Even pros tutorials they just throw them. That is why everyone does the nyjah stink foot tre flip now. Tim o Connor did them proper. The Appleyard tre they show is perfect. He says about the feet too close together, but that is where the spring comes from. Your feet have the pressure between them and should be trying to "indian burn" your board. That creates the tension so that when you pop it springs up to your feet like the appleyard tre flip. That is the proper way to do them. Joslin throws them and DOES NOT spring them up when he pops. He can do them, but that is why his look the way they do vs Appleyards. If you want style like Appleyard you cant just throw it, you have to pop that sucker up to your feet. Look how Appleyard caught it so quickly. He doesnt have time to stink foot them unless he does them off of a bump as by the time it flips, it should be right there already by your foot still moving upward. You pop them up to your feet and smash them back down, you dont float and just throw it underneath you. Not if you want REAL style. That stink foot garbage doesnt look good and those of us who know how to pop our sh*t know the difference and can spot it REAL quick. If you did not catch the tre flip above the top step it DOES NOT COUNT. I dont care if it is 14 stairs. It doesnt count. It is akin to street early grab. UNACCEPTABLE!
I got Tre Flips on lock but I’ll never understand how people Tre with their front foot in kickflip position. I put my front foot pretty close to my back foot (I do them exactly like Ricky Glaser does them), maybe one day I’ll get them the proper way lol
As much as I love these 3, they gave 3/3 generic tre flip tips. If you're here learning, you should defo watch Skate Hacks trick tip for this, it's far more in depth and informative. Don't listen to anyone that says, "it's all in the back foot". There's more to it that they do on autopilot.
Tre on gaps is not tre on flat though. You have to catch it about 20-30 degrees short of full rotation and bring your feet with it and line your hips up to absorb the impact correctly.
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Mark for me the best skater of all time. Style, tricks, lifestyle all there. His parts still hold up
Agreed!!
Sure as hell had style.. and a nice trick selection.. nollie flip/heel into crooks or noseslides.. he did that best 👌
Interesting perspective, he’s a legend for sure
His nollie flip back 50 down clipper is one of the best looking skateboard tricks of all time.
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I skated from 2002-2005 everyday and I could never get them. This sounds stupid but back then I was still on dialup internet and didn't have access to quality hd videos like this. My main problem was that quality of skate videos I was pirating on limewire were like 240p and I tried Chris Cole method on many videos but it would be blurry pixels. Now I'm getting back into skating this weekend for the first time two decades later and I have the confidence that I will land tre flip within the next year thanks to modern technology and videos like this! A lot has evolved in the skateboarding industry over the last 20 years that I have missed but man I'm glad to be back.
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Power to you brother! I skated during that time as well
I learned them about 6 months into skating but only because I had an acquaintance, I wouldn't even really call him a friend, just some dude who would randomly show up to our spot and he could do 360 flips really well for the time but he wouldn't show anybody how to do them lol until one day he just says, it's like a varial flip but you just flick harder and that just opened up my mind and I learned them a week later. Funny Cause I knew so many people who were so so good but couldn't do 360 flips and they skated years before me and could do other great things. This was the mid 90s and I knew a guy who could switch hardflip 180, in 1996! That was nuts for the time but he never got 360 flips. I never understood it lol.
I know that feeling well. I had tre flips on lock one summer in high school (probably 2007), but then lost them when I wasn't skating all the time. For whatever reason they were a "use it or lose it" trick for me.
@fallofshadows2209 front side flips were a use it or lose it for me. I had em down in the 90s and then magically one day, I couldn't them anymore!
Interesting video. Agree with all of them but I’d add that with regular practice and repetition you actually build muscle that makes the pop/scoop easier. Once you start having enough power to pop a little more vertically the way it rotates will actually make them much easier to catch. I’m out of shape and practice but I used to have them so wired it was like doing an Ollie. Always thought that little extra power/verticality in the scoop is what made them so consistent for me.
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This channel continues to be the best skate channel ever! Thanks for another great video!
Thank you!!
Appleyard one of the steeziest 360 flips ever.
Cole 360 flip Rincon and Wallenberg
Joslin did Davis gap and though he doesn't count it, we all know he had the El Toro one! Couldn't ask for a better selection to represent that trick!
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@@wamidi it's so good! Cole has killed it for so many years and is still going strong! One of my all time favorites for sure
LMAO Cole is amazing for that Circle Jerks tip
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I’ve always been the opposite, I think the kicking foot is more important than the scooping foot for this trick. I tried the scoop way learning from Janoski trick tip. But the scoop just made it awkward, so I do back foot like a Pop Shovit. I go for popping it like a Pop Shovit to get more height and flick like a variel flip. Once I realized that I focused on getting my 360 Pop Shovits on lock first. Then after four months I finally got 360 flips solid on flat. I haven’t tried it off or down anything though, so hopefully I build confidence to try it off stuff.
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I'd be interested in seeing a clip of your tre flip some time. Not to hate. But definetly want to see if you actually do the trick a little differently, or perhaps you just interpret/ visualise it differently. I'm sure you have a solid tre tho dude ✌️
All 3 have their own style and looks great. Doesn't surprise me that Joslin learned from jumping down shi- ✊
He is a beast
After watching this... i was able to tre flip the leap of faith 🙂
So perfect. Pepe’s line helped and I also learned them down a curb way before flat. All back foot.
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That line in Photosynthesis by Mark will forever be etched into my memory. I thought that trefllip was so steezy. Happy accident kind of thing lol
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Best content, thank you Chase
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Thanks for the video, was really interesting!
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It's like an unwritten rule you film skate tricks from the front, but I actually believe 360 flips look best filmed from behind! Think of Antwuan Dixon's famous one from Baker 3. My favorite 360 flip ever I believe, and perfect example, is in Baker 2g pissdrunx section, Erik Ellington is skating benches filmed telephoto. He does my favorite 360 flip of all time! Appleyard has an amazing one as shown here as do Joslin and Cole! Great video as usual!
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this is what all trick tip videos should be like
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this is awesome. chris cole one of my top 5 all time skaters. first skateshoe I ever owned was a ripper
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Cole said it best , all in the back toe
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You rock and keep up the good work men
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Is it like an impossible scoop? Or a shuv it scoop?
More like a shuv
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Ol Chris Cole is a really good teacher 👍😇
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Toward at the back area of body position to lean over the catch when Chris Cole is getting better and working out on a better mindset
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@@storied_skateboarding Yes Sir!
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Chris Cole gives up the goods at 0:44. That slight lean out and over the inside rail is the only way to get the leverage you need to get that back foot scoop in one smooth motion.
Hey. What does inside rail mean here? Edge of the board?
@@pistopit7142 Yes, exactly! When you scoop that back foot, you turn it inward slightly and your toe almost catches the edge of the board and zips it around. That’s the trick to getting it to rotate quick enough that it looks effortless, and also having it come up to meet your feet so you can actually “catch” it off the ground.
@@arty712 thanks. I got the scoop but still cannot land it with my back foot. Just a front foot catches it. I think I need to lean forward more as the board often ends up in front of me. This might sound strange but I look at the skater's head when they perform 360 flip becuase that kind of tells me how the body weight is redistributed. It looks that most of the skaters do a small loop with their head, they lean forward a lot as they crouch, then as they go up the head moves back a little towards the tail and finally at the last moment of the scoop, the head moves forward again.
There are tutorials that tell you not to lean forward and focus entire body weight on the back. That is a bit missleading I think and it likely lead me to create bad habit for this trick.
Lmao joslin and his noises. “You just *whoop* catch it and there you go” 😂😂😂😂
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Great content- more please
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I loved the nollie flip trick tip apple yard did 😊 411vm the first step and next step
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Yo that's crazy how joslin said h
He learned how to 360 flip off of stuff before he could do it on flat because thats literally how it was for me with frontside flips tho...i couldn't frontside flip on flat but i could frontisde flip down stairs sets and shit....idk its just always been hard for me trying to do the full front 180 with a flip in flat ...its like a basically do slow motion type of frontside flips ....i cant do them fast like most people so throwing them off of stuff gives me enough time to get the board full 180 with the flip....and its was funny how people always thought i was a beast doing frontside flips down big stair sets like it was nothing but little did they know it was so much easier for me to do it down big stair sets than it was on flat...
this is amazing
Thank you!!!
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Around 2002, I was watching Pat Duffy throwing tres casually in Questionable and Second Hand Smoke....and Jeremy Wray
Iconic!
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Chris is hilarious 🤣
Truly
You couldn’t have picked 3 better skaters to talk about 360 flips. Cole & Joslin are responsible for the biggest / most iconic tre flips ever done. And Mark imo has the best looking tre flip of all time
Agreed! No accident
Add Westgate and Kalis in for normal 360 flips + Worrest and Saari for switch 360 flips and I'm good.
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Please do one on backside 360 kickflip
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I had a friend in the mid 90s that was constantly preaching to scoop your back foot for 360 flips cause this was at a time when Everybody was flicking their front foot really hard to make them flip and i just didn't get what he was saying till many years later, Cause I was pretty comfy flicking the shit out of them and I had em down stairs so I didn't think twice about them. I really wish I would taken the time to learn the scooping motion.
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Haven’t skateboarded in years, cause I went back to blades, but I saw Appleyard and had to watch this. His first couple parts is what I was watched to get my 360 flips down.
To anyone struggling to figure them out this is an amazing tutorial
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This is the only proper video i could find where they talk about it springing up to your feet. Even pros tutorials they just throw them. That is why everyone does the nyjah stink foot tre flip now. Tim o Connor did them proper. The Appleyard tre they show is perfect. He says about the feet too close together, but that is where the spring comes from. Your feet have the pressure between them and should be trying to "indian burn" your board. That creates the tension so that when you pop it springs up to your feet like the appleyard tre flip. That is the proper way to do them. Joslin throws them and DOES NOT spring them up when he pops. He can do them, but that is why his look the way they do vs Appleyards. If you want style like Appleyard you cant just throw it, you have to pop that sucker up to your feet. Look how Appleyard caught it so quickly. He doesnt have time to stink foot them unless he does them off of a bump as by the time it flips, it should be right there already by your foot still moving upward. You pop them up to your feet and smash them back down, you dont float and just throw it underneath you. Not if you want REAL style. That stink foot garbage doesnt look good and those of us who know how to pop our sh*t know the difference and can spot it REAL quick. If you did not catch the tre flip above the top step it DOES NOT COUNT. I dont care if it is 14 stairs. It doesnt count. It is akin to street early grab. UNACCEPTABLE!
If you could do a secret to big heels that would be awesome. That trick has eluded me for years
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Joslin for the win
Beastmode
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Biggest tip i can give is to JUMP UP. jump straight up. helps with most tricks honestly but especially treflips
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Yep, more pop in most things when learning is the answer.
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All in the back foot. Front foot determines style.
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Everyone always talks about the scoop but no one tells you jumó higher in the air to give the board more time to go around
learned how to tre flip down 8 stairs before flat ground.
Ah the tre flip, the one trick that once you have it down makes you feel like an absolute boss.
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Problem I have with trey flips is i get the full rotation but i always catch the board upside down..
Someone explain to me why I can nollie tre flip, switch tre flip but I can’t regular tre flip..
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0:12 ... you hear that Hawk? Tony?! lmao
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My body always want to do a body varial when I try to do a 360 flip.
Keep practicing!
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there was a while where i would do them without any front foot flick at all trying to imitate gonz and filipe gustavo.
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Trick has alluded me for 20 years 😢
Same
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An entire generation learned from that one Stefan Janoski vid.
Haha yes
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treflips are hard
We know 😅
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I got Tre Flips on lock but I’ll never understand how people Tre with their front foot in kickflip position. I put my front foot pretty close to my back foot (I do them exactly like Ricky Glaser does them), maybe one day I’ll get them the proper way lol
You got this
Stefan should've been in there 😢
I dunno. My tre flips suck. But I do see that there is a diagonal shape to make. Sort rocket it with the flick and lose confidence that way.
You got this
perhaps i need to go get my hearing checked at the doctors. did i just hear Joslin say he was able to tre flip down 8 stairs before flat?
You heard the man
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@@storied_skateboarding or Joslin’s advice to just “do it down shit” 🤣 🤣 🤣
Should do this with all the tricks
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I tried Joslin’s tip of putting my back foot in the right side pocket. Didn’t work... Also I’m goofy so maybe that had something to do with it.
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Pepe!!!!
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The real secret to any flip trick is practice. Visualise how the trick should look and practice, practice, practice
Yes sir!
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Just Ollie. Kickflip. Spin the damn board 360. C'mon!
True haha
As much as I love these 3, they gave 3/3 generic tre flip tips. If you're here learning, you should defo watch Skate Hacks trick tip for this, it's far more in depth and informative. Don't listen to anyone that says, "it's all in the back foot". There's more to it that they do on autopilot.
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Learned: nothing lol. Pro skaters need to be banned from giving trick tips
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You don't learn by listening or watching you learn by doing
Watch footy and the foot placement.... Just like what Cole was saying dumbass lol
Cole actually has fantastic trick tips on his RUclips. Tom Asta has a really good catalog as well
I agree lol. Just put foot here and flick. And land. Oh thanks. I knew that but what about body position, weight, etc lol
Apples and Joselyn’s pointers were so trash. At least Chris cobra Cole was able to explain so helpful pointers.
I think they were intending 12 years olds to be watching this but, I’m 39.
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Apple wants be cool, and Cole actually want to teach you, Joslin really have no idea how to teach you he want to you learn something on 8+ stairs.
Haha different strokes for different folks. And to be clear, Apples IS very cool
Tre on gaps is not tre on flat though. You have to catch it about 20-30 degrees short of full rotation and bring your feet with it and line your hips up to absorb the impact correctly.
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Now i know, is just "wee" 🛹📝 00:30
Haha yup
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