BIKERS MUST WATCH THIS! Motorcycle jeans destruction test
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I don't mean any disrespect to those who commented on this video; however, I would simply like to say that based on the intent of this video, I can appreciate what the guy was trying to do. I will definitely think twice before trying to save money versus saving skin. Thanks for uploading.
+RK Smith Cheers!
Since most slides are face up, the major problem with the cheaper jeans was the way that the ass protection just ruffled up. However that may be different with more weight over a short distance.
The government spend millions testing cars, perhaps they should spend a few thousand on properly testing gear in realistic conditions with correctly weighted and jointed dummies.
I am sure that with the number of biker injuries, the insurance companies would contribute to the testing. Possibly different certification could be given to guide on the best products for serious riding as opposed to commuting in the city on a small bike.
At the moment, it is a complete minefield.
I didn't even know motorcycle jeans were a thing. Just got my first 125 and definitely going to get a pair of the good ones. Thanks for informing me 👍
@begodecrashtestdummy2722 Were you wearing denim or leather jeans.?
@begodecrashtestdummy2722 A good pair of cowhide leather jeans give far better protection, particularly in event of an engine fire. That happened to one of my friends and he was able to stop and get off, rather than bailing and ending up with a burning bike on top of him.
Just avoid those stupid 'comfort' leather jeans with the elastane crotch area that would melt within a few seconds. They are banned for track racing. LOL
if i was being dragged around a go kart track by my feet i would get the more expensive jeans
If I was being dragged around a go kart track by my feet, I'd get a gun.
TDubsKid
Indeed LOL!
aluisious
Exactly!!!
Or when planning on going 80-100mph+. Doubling the speed is quadrupling the energy...
🤣
Not really a fair comparison since an actual accident wont be like the scenario you tested the jeans in. You dragged them around for potentially a long time. For more realism you should have reached 55mph, then tossed them off the back and then let the kart come to a stop.
I completely agree that the methodology of the test *is* flawed if they were aiming to recreate the most realistic scenario, and as we have no way of knowing exactly when the damages occured or when the denim and aramid was worn through, it is hard to say if anything can be concluded with sertainty on the basis of this. One thing though, is that the 2 pairs were exposed to the same levels of wear, and showed significantly different damage done to them.
Anders Bjerregaard Exactly - this is a comparison, not a scientific or repeatable test. The article explains it in more depth, but generally You Tube users won't read it. You
e absolutely right - the two had the same level of wear. An impact would submit the jeans to more energy in a much shorter time. This video simply compares two pair of jeans. I'd go for the better quality pair, but what other people decide to do is entirely up to them.
***** I agree wholly Ronald - no-one can deny that the more expensive jeans offer more protection, regardless of what test is carried out. As the identical test was carried out on both jeans, I know which ones I would rather be wearing!
MoreBikes.co.uk Bet we can buy the expensive pair from you eh lol
I agree I would like to see a more realistic sliding test getting up to 50-60mph and let the jeans go and see the difference
Fantastic video. I’m in the market for rider jeans right now and this just makes me want to buy them even quicker lol. I see SO many riders with no gear on the bottom half. This proves it’s a must.
Excellent video. Thanks for putting this together. Buy good gear all you riders out there!
Now that's what you call useful video. Worth 5:21 minutes of my life. Thanks.
Thanks for this vid! Very helpfull and something more motorcyclists should see!
Thank you for the demonstration! The test is obviously flawed but so are (the very few) other tests there are for this gear.
A lot of harsh comments here. If nothing else, the test does show that the more expensive pair of jeans do offer more protection. They may even withstand a few slides down the road. The cheaper pair would probably survive a slow to medium speed slide.
More protection which I don't need cause I'm not gonna be dragged behind a gocart lying flat on my belly!
@@StarskiPL sure but sliding at 50 miles an hour will be just like that. Its not a good test but it does show the drastic difference between the 2
relistic test conditions...many thanks for sharing... a lot of us bikers still need educating on good proper safety equipment....
good demonstration. The jeans have good abrasion resistance but no armor. Impact protection is also important!
Oh god i do hope nobody gets dragged behind a gocart for several laps!
+Ylex happened to me once. next time i wore 2 pairs of aldi jeans. still saved money
I thought the same (lol), but we did get a resiliency test, and the cheaper pair did fail much more.
To be honest a full grown person weight about 3-4 times more that the dummy they used in the test so you would get 3 times more damage on the same track.
UlTrApLeX yeah, their full weight. However, most of your weight is up in your chest.
mo m8 the resistance from your body being dragged by a motorcycle is transferred to the point of contact, it may be not the same as having all weight on the trousers but it is still about 3 to 4 times more abrasion than having a stupid dummy as a reference.
love the comparison... good work my man. keep it comming..
watch out !! Jeans overtaking on the inside of the curve ! :))) better lap times :)))
The lesson is, always wear high quality gear in the event you're dragged down the street tied to a go cart. 🤗
Need to do the test again because Aldi now do a fully lined CE approved pair of jeans with knee and hip armour for £39 i bought a pair and they are fantastic, very thick and excellent quality 👍
Great video. It has certainly made my mind up.
I'd like to see the same test with textile and leathers. Then it would make selection a bit easier.
Good review and perspective
There is no need for that 120 GBP jean. check this out.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_findings_in_the_Hurt_Report
Point 16, median crash speed is 21.5 mph. Only 1-in-a-thousand crash speed is 86mph.
Point 1, approx. 75% of these motorcycle accidents involved
collision with another vehicle, which was most usually a passenger
automobile.
So, expect that 25% of the time the accident does not involve another vehicle. At that median speed one would roll just a few meters. Therefore the 30 quid jean is definitely enough, but if you have the money for the 'premium', why not?
What is secriously lacking in this video were a few things.
1. The best protection is ride 'defensively, protectively, maintain situational awareness'. This can only come with seat time and age. One can have the best gear in the world and if he/she ride hooligan or involves in a high speed accident. Serious injuries, disability, fatality are very likely.
2. Since we know 75% of the time the accidents involves collision with another vehicle, most usually a car. That means abrubt stop from hitting hard objects. That means the minimal gears may include, cheap or premium: Helmet, gloves, long elbow guards, knee shin guards, armored under pants, and a stiff med length boot so your ankles don't twist 360 degrees.
Except the helmet and riding boots. One can get all these under 100 quids online. Cheap doesn't mean low quality, premium doesn't mean better protection. Ride 'DEFENSIVELY' is the BEST protection, and wear what you choose to wear, not what others tell you to wear.
Yes I am an expert, that you are correct.
You don't care? Obviously you read, felt butthurt, reacted and replied brokenly.
Can you read English. I mean you can, but do you understand the language?
My point 2. basically says there are essential minimum riding gears.
I am 40 and I've ridden so many bikes since my early 20's, had my fair share of accidents and scars. I am a sole distributor of Husqvarna Motorcycles in Thailand. I ride on and off road.
now you can fuck off.
It was not a debate. You didn't have a valid point to start with.
In case you are dumb enough to summarize, get confused and all:
My previous statements comes down to this: Number 1 rule of motorcycle safety, is ride defensively, protectively, maintain full time situational awareness. Follow by a variety of gears which I listed. Also, cheaper doesn't mean low quality. Premium doesn't protect better, but if you have the money for the 'premium', why not?
You managed to write three confusing cursing posts posted in three different time, which could be put together into one. Your brain is not working well you know that? Are you ADHD, Pakinson? I suggest you have a mental evaluation asap.
Holy shit that was intresting!
While still relevant and a good indicator that you should be more worried about other vehicles than your pants probably the statistics are very old and need to be reassessed. I wonder now if the rates have changed with more people being aware of riders and the attitude seems friendlier now, or how cell phones have effected the rates.
Those statistics you're citing from the 'Hurt Report' are from the 1970's and according to Wikipedia; it's debatable whether they're still valid for 2018. I definitely agree with what you're saying still.
www.mcgearhub.com is also a very good website to see some real-world crash incidents for those who are interested.
What kind of riding pants do you recommend for spirited street riding?
Damn. Never considered motorcycle jeans to be much better than regular jeans. I'm sold.
+Nick Field You will still end up with road rash underneath. It may not be as bad as straight to pavement, but tell me how much different it was skinning your knee from falling off your bicycle as a kid in shorts compared to jeans. Yes there was a bit more blood and tearing in shorts, but you still ended up with tearing and blood inside the jeans. Jeans aren't gear.
+Mark Banks I'm an advocate of gear and I wear full leathers throughout the year in texas which is known to get over 100 degrees during the summer. Yet, I'll take baby scraps and bruises over complete road rash.
Brilliant. We watch endless reviews of jeans about how they look and the feel and the cut, blablabla. This test just shows to us all, you get what you pay for. Read the specs and pay the extra.
fantastic video...sold me on paying the extra...Thanx a lot Man !!!!
I'm currently going through the process of buying motorcycle gear myself as I'm nearing my exams and even though the price is steep it is easily worth it imo. I mean, it's for my own safety.. I'd rather pay for a well protecting, well made pair of motorcycle pants or a jacket rather than having my skin scraped off in case I go for a slide. I know there are people who even ride in regular jeans and I'm just like wtf man...
And also I simply think to myself, sure the gear is expensive, but these days even regular clothes are (can be) expensive. People pay ridiculous amounts of money for denim jeans and what not. I don't, so I might as well spend it on good driving gear.
It may also a good idea to take saving money for gear into account when you start saving money for your first motorcycle.
Exactly , i purchased my gear beforehand , that then let me know where i stood in regards to saving for a bike. I bought Alpinestars GP plus one piece leather suit , Supertech R boots , Arai RX-7V helmet , Alpinestars GP Pro gloves , Armour etc) but also bought a cheaper set of RST leather two piece set that zips together and a an RST textile set for winter. My main alpinestars stuff/helmet was all new , but i picked up the textiles second hand for cheap. Some great stuff where the user had basically only completed their compulsary basic training (CBT) and never used it again , so was as good as new.
very informative! you did well. long story short. buy best gear you can find to protect you if shit hits the fan.
Simple, good point.
It's a fair conclusion for the setup of this experiment. However, in the real world you won't slide an entire circuit. I would want this to be done with a slide of 50ft or so around similar speeds, and I would feel the results will be more relevant!
How so? Products are rarely tested by subjecting them to the minimum expected trauma
But to be far you may.be sliding faster too in motercycle and alot more weight of full body pushing into those areas esp if thrown from bike more pressure
And that's how you do a review 👍🏾
Great way to show it. Thanks. :)
Simply the best review
I'm definitely not gonna save money on Motorbike Jeans
Awesome way to demonstrate.
This video was hilarious to watch. Puffy jeans drifting & whipping behind you.
when he said its a 90 lb difference i for a few seconds was like dam those are heavy jeans. i get he means money
Me too 😂😂
yeah, foreigners have this wierd fake money...and a lot of made up words too...some of them even have "languages" where not even one word can be understood. how they manage is beyond me...
+Steve M Except English people actually invented the language you speak...
+Richard well, yeah... I was riffing on an old Steve Martin routine... Kinda playing the ugly American... You people have a different word for everything!
friscoHub415
Henry Ford invented cars, therefore Ford cars are the best. Stupidest argument ever
Thanks for posting this, I'm looking for armored jeans for my son so he ride with me
I lack explanation in this video on why, if both pairs were 14oz denim, Aldi one torn much more significantly than Premium pair. Taking into consideration tears on knees were similar something g potentially affected rear part of the cheaper jeans.
Thanks!
I have recently bought riding jeans as a reward fpr passing my driving test. I decided tp spend 400 bucks on AAA levl riding jeans from Dainese. I've never had an accident - thank God - but I still think they're worth every penny. They feel like a pair of joggers by the way. 🤙🏻🤙🏻🤙🏻
It was a simple reality check. Thanks.
Great video.
Rev'it: 12 oz. Cordura, Powershield lining, triple stitching, shieldprotectors on knees and hips and Coolmax for comfort.
Regardless of how real life the test if its still a viable comparison. Oen is definitely better than the other. All the video claimed. Great job!
Top video mate
can you do the same thing with some textiles? I've often wondered if I'm actually protected in my Alpinestars Andes?
I fell off last year wearing a textile jacket and fully lined jeans. I still wear the jeans every day because they're fine, the jacket is in landfill somewhere because it was fucked! Hope that answers your question!
good to know thanks
Contrary to many of the comments, textile abrasion testing is generally performed using a machine that applies pressure and friction for thousands and tens of thousands of repetitions. The textile is rated by the last group of 15 or 20,000 repetitions it successfully withstood. (There are two chief methods and corresponding machines used, one standard is American--Wyzenbeek--, one International--Martindale.)
Granted, an actual accident involves more than abrasion alone: impact, tearing/shearing, and so on. However, the variability of how an accident unfolds renders complex testing (that is, attempting to simultaneously evaluate multiple elements) of modest value at best.
In my view this real-world exercise makes a relevant point, however lacking it may be in either pure rigor or accuracy of accident modelling: more lining means better abrasion resistance.
I am wondering where I can find out what the ratings of Tobacco Motowear are since Tobacco won’t tell me.
I have not run across many brands that don’t list a rating but tobacco is one of them that don’t. I don’t know why but they cost a significant chunk of change and if I’m going to lay down that type of money, I definitely would like to know their CE A scale rating.
Do you know of a site that lists everybody who makes rider jeans - their CE A scale rating? If so I would really like to know this link or who it is that I need to ask.
This is very interesting. I never ride without leathers and there's no way I'd wear Aldi jeans on a bike. Its a good test that highlights the difference between cheap and good gear.
I'd be curious how long most people slide when having to lay down a bike vs how much punishment you put those jeans through. The more expensive pair is better for being dragged behind a go kart, but what about laying down a bike going 40mph, 60mph, and 70mph.
I bought a slightly used 2 piece leather suit by Teknic (double cow-hide at the impact zones and seat) for £40. I’d bet that against the Hood jeans.
Aldi jeans are ok for a trip around the city. Slide times at city speeds are what? 1 second? That’s about all you need. For potentially really long slides, people should really be wearing 1 or 2 piece cowhide (or kangaroo, deer, elk) suits.
You got a link where to buy or have some made.?
When aldi due to start selling these again they looking pretty decent to be fair if ya gonna fall off not gonna cover 10 lengths if gokart track
But what about the seem strength?
In a crash, the force of your body hitting the floor at speed will certainly stress the seems and often bursts them on cheaply made textile and leather clothing.
Would've been nice to see if the jeans survived such a test!
The trick is to hit the ground gently and just sliiiiiiiiiiiide. They are much better protection than blue jeans no matter how well they're made. The ultimate protection would be a full set of leathers but I'm not running Moto GP.
Yes, a better test would be to load these with sandbags and throw them out the back of a van at highway speed.
You'd need to compare the Aldi part lined jeans with some Hood part lined jeans. 2 different designs rather than cheap pair vs dearer pair. Of course fully lined jeans will fair better than part lined.
Very good.
So much hate and so many cheapskates posting comments, one factor remains. Back in around 2000 Dragging Jeans in the USA and Hood Jeans in the UK were the only two manufacturers of Kevlar lined motorcycle jeans. Draggin jeans were like the Aldi ones and the Hood Jeans were supreme with full length coverage, even the denim and jean creation was supreme. I had a pair of K7 Jeans for this entire time and passed them onto a mate as out grew the size. I never crashed them but the denim stood up to the test of time. I certainly rate the denim and build of the jeans as better than Levis or Wrangler. For double the money you get a tech jean capable of surviving a crash and protecting you into the bargain. To all the haters shove wasps up your arse if it makes you feel happy but least I know where my next pair of motorcycle jeans will come from. The Draggin K shirt from draggin jeans was a good idea though and am liking these new hoodie's lined with kevlar into bargain. Biking has never seen so casual and so safe.
What I don't understand is if they both have aramid inside, why has it ripped through the protection on the budget pair and not the premium? Surely aramid is aramid, regardless of budget? Genuine question as I'm still pretty new to motorcycles. Great video by the way... more people need to see this sort of stuff.
I skipped to the end but I'm assuming the cheaper pair were only lined in the seat, the knees and the hips. The more expensive ones are usually fully lined.
It can get much more complicated with aramid (Kevlar) interwoven fibres vs aramid/Kevlar lined but basically I think this video is part lined vs fully lined
@@stanssoapbox That makes sense. Thanks! 👍
Thank u
THIS is a REAL test!
What brand was the premium pair of jeans that was fully lined with aramid?
Sounded like you said Hood’s but I couldn’t tell.
Yes! Hood
Hi, can you give me the brand of resistant jeans?
I don't own any riding jeans but after seeing this i really want a pair now, I've had lots of people tell me "just get aldi ones!" but nah sod that i'll keep my skin road rash free thanks.
Wish he did this on a more roughed up road instead of a perfectly smooth go cart track
Those denims drift like a boss. I don't know why, but I found that hilarious. I think all go kart racers should be made to tow 2 pairs of jeans during races. Nice job though, I'll have a pair of premium jeans please.
They realy saved a bit to much on the aramid. Put some on the hot spots. How hard can it be?
Is there a shelf life for riding jeans? I've had my draggin jeans since the late 90s.
+HotrodADV71 Kevlar separates if it's hung, ballistic vests go bad after ~5 years being hung. Otherwise probably not.
the question is if being inside of the jeans and accident happens would I be dragged on for one circuit lap long until stop? I don't think so...
Leathers is choice for me I got two pairs on ebay in excellent used condition 62 quid no rips or scrapes 🏍
Should have compared a regular pair of jeans too as your base line of comparison.....and since most people seem to ride in only regular jeans.
I want to see this done with dyneema!
Iv'e got a pair of Draggin jeans and they are one of the best and original kevlar jeans, but they only have as much kevlar as the Aldi ones in the same places! :-/
+kidda74 You'll probably find they have a longer 'short' area, and that it's a complete 'unit'. These were a different construction. Personally, I prefer fully-lined jeans still though.
+MoreBikes.co.uk Oh I recently treated myself to a pair of Hood jeans and I'm very happy with them. The colour, the fit, the style they're just like a normal pair of good jeans to look at but with full protection. The armor that you get for them is good too without being too bulky!
I dont know why people have said the test was a failure. I dont much about stuff like this but to me it got the point across more armor is better than less armor for less cash
where can i buy the black ones?
How do the Revit hold up?
Now get up to speed and throw them on the tarmac for the length of a typical slide (eg. about 100m)
What brand was the budget pair? I've got a pair of kevlar woven jeans that I ride in, but now I'm not so confident in them.
+DOG SPIT Please do feel free to do you own test. I've tried to explain the lack of science, repeatability, the fact that it's a comparison... but 'as many have stated', there are other opinions out there - the internet is full of them. Makes no odds to me - wear what you like.
+Dave Muldoon They're Aldi Dave. The aramid in them isn't actually that bad (as stated), but my problem with them is particularly where its sewn into the back. The seams here failed instantly, so as soon as the denim goes through, the aramid pulls up, exposing your bum. That's not the case with all part-lined jeans - some have a longer 'short' area.
They're better than normal jeans though. Personally, I prefer fully-lined jeans (which again was my point with this video) - they're what I wear on launches. Cheers, John
I get the intent, and ultimately the more expensive fully protected jeans will always offer better protection than ones without full protection, regardless of brand. However, this is such an unscientific test! For example, not once did you mention how long you were dragging them round for?! Based on this test, you literally cannot say that if you were wearing the Aldi jeans in a crash, that you would sustain more injuries than in the others!
Jeans are not made for riding. Aramid insert spawn from marketing, other than from real R&D.
Real riding pants are synthetic textiles. Highly abrasion resistant, slippery so when a rider falls they allow some slide, helps to minimize contusion, not sharp stoppage like jeans.
Jeans are easy to wear and look better though.
Also, more expensive is mostly the result of marketing costs.
For example. Alda from factory costs 9-10 US dollars a piece, while Hood K7 is 13-15 US dollars. Not pounds. I work as a senior sourcing manager of a reputable international apparel sourcing company. These are real facts.
wud be great to see a heavier dummy being dragged at 60 mph for 5-8 seconds on both the front and rear sides but this is an extreme example that proves a small investment in ur heath cud mean no road rash and wire brush to ur skin to clean out the debris. seems like a fair and wise investment to me.
I've slid about 20metres down the road in a tee shirt and shorts before.
Despite the road rash, I've still be known to squid it.
Where can I get those jeans?
Are motorcycle jeans like this just as good as the leather things?
I think normally the absolute longest slides will not go for much longer than 15 seconds (that's going speeds excess of 100 mph) it looked like he dragged those pants around for at least 40 seconds maybe even a minute all you have really shown is witch pants have excess armoring
It's all well and good, but you picked the crappiest of the budget jeans. My motocentric batallions were on sale for 40 bucks and have thicker denim and way more Kevlar.
Why not don a set of full leathers (as we know these work well) and then put on the outside the kevlar/non leather clothes to be tested and jump off the gokart?
+chris j Drop us a line and we'll film you doing it.
if your body ONLY did that in an accident that would be cool. But ya coming down & grinding on that point. Me like we have more options now. thanks for the heads up for safety!!!
Fully lined don't necessarily cost more. Should've weighed them down more to simulate an actual rider's weight. It would be great to test single layer jeans.
i think it's a good comparison test, it shows the difference in protection levels between the two. To all the people who made negative comments I can only say "Which pair would you rather be wearing if you found yourself sliding down the road on your arse?"
This test certainly does not reflect what would happen in real world, but certainly illustrates the durability and the fact that you actually get what you pay for... More money = more durability and protection. Choice is individual to make.
The budget one is my colour, I go for that.
+HunGerMovies Yeap! Protection is for pussies, I'd rather look cool dying. Trolalolalol
SSchithFoo Yeah, because your most important body parts are located in your legs, you break your leg and you are dead, because you will not be able to hunt for your daily prey again and you will starve to death.
did this man just say the most important body parts are in your legs?…
@@overknight5278 It's called sarcasm
burned & scratched flesh will heal. a broken joint or ligament will heal to but not to the extent like before. if you do competitive sports for example. so the knee protectors are essentially the point of this whole product
This proves that if you want to get dragged around a race track buy hoods ,but if you fall off a bike and just slide a short distance get the cheap ones
how long did you drag these for? realistically a slide will only last a few seconds.
exactly...real test would be sew the cuffs closed fill with sand, sew closed drag for 30 seconds at 60 Mph and take a look...unless you plan on being chained behind a truck for a ten minute drag...
but nobody weights 20kg
Controversy debate ------>
Save Money OR Save LIVES .....? 😂😂😂😂😂
Not concrete research, but it did prove a point. Buy cheap and suffer the consequences!
yeh cause when you fall off a bike your going 50 mph getting slung around a never ending track for about 30 minutes yep very very accurate and to be honest the jeans out up a big fight so if it was a accident I doubt much damage would happen
All motorcycle jeans are design to save your skin from a 5-7 second slide. If you are sliding more than 10 seconds then you should be using full leathers cow or kangaroo anyway and be on a race track. If you are sliding over 10 seconds on the road then you are going WAY too fast on jeans.
The major difference between this and real life is , you don't drag on the same spot accelerating and and slowing down round a track.
You should have done this test with sandbags. No one's lower body is sliding with 20kg of pressure against the ground.
do people not wear leathers anymore?
I would only ever recommend full riding leathers, all of the time.