the HB and HT fandoms are just teenagers/kids in this fandom, and also i should speak for myself since im still a kid but moved on from Helluva Boss lol
Hazbin Hotel fans when they go to Hell and are consumed within the gnarling and gnashing of teeth. [ This isn’t what they expected, despite Hell being claimed to be a terrible place. ]
@@spoutinghorn3I’m wondering this too. As long as adults stay in their spaces in fandoms (aka out of the children side), I don’t see a problem with adults liking media where the target demographic skews younger
Maybe if HH wasn't formatted to be a child's interpretation of an adult show then maybe we wouldn't have this issue. You can't expect a show with childish violence, childish writing, childish merchandizing and childish presentation to appeal towards older demographics.
It’s weird that adult shows attract the youngest of audience and the new age cartoons for kids attracts the weirdest of adults. Look at owl house, she ra and Korra. Most of the fandom are adults and yet hazbin hotel has like little guys watching. Weird results.
I feel like a lot of it might also be those content farm channels on RUclips were they'll market videos towards kids that really shouldn't like *insert show that's not for kids* but it's minecraft and we poorly imitate the characters or when they make videos using kids media and put jokes and gags that are inappropriate for children
Owl House and SheRa were made by mentally-ill adult tumblrinas for mentally-ill adult tumblrinas. It originally was never meant for kids. They just pushed it as a kids show to get it out there.
Hazbin is like the final boss of this though. You may have other shows targeting teenie audiences with their hopeless and melodramatic romance plots sprinkled with dirty stuff in them in similarly edgy themes, sure, but good god has no show come close to what hazbin is man. They cranked it up to a billion, every single step they could do to please their current oddball audience they absolutely took.
@@BlackArts_ByVal spoilers and songs for season 2 recently leaked. Sera at one point asks out loud "What kind of leader can't distinguish good from evil?" Vivian is telling on herself and she doesn't even realize it.
@@collinkeyser6827 She can't take constructive criticism and encourages her cult followers to harass anyone who disagrees with her or gives out constructive criticism on her shows.
@@rankrodent2772 Eh, it has a nice animation, and sometimes a rather good musical. If we look past both fandom and hatedom, there are definitely shows that are worse.
@@cyntdestroyer69xd Oh god! The hatedom! Don't get me started with that. I get not liking a show, but the sh@t they do over there is just... Dear, god. Plus, I'm sorry you have a bad interaction with the fandom, if any. As a fan, I've had nothing but good times with people. A lot of laughs and sweet moments were shared as a fandom.
@@theunknowncommenter725 I mean like all the kids getting their hands on it and just ruining it with their toxicity. Plus all the brainrot stuff. Sort of a problem in all fandoms but yeah.
@@julianmeyer5882 the number of mentail issues in young age is really terrifying. And considering how hard it is to monitor what kids are watching I'd say no surprice. The mentaly unstable characters became Z-generation icons. One thing is liking music, other is wearing a cosplay and singina about D sucking hoe on camera. I almost puked from how cringe it is.
Probably because back then Helluva Boss was mostly dark comedy and the characters where badass. Now it has become a tumblr fanfic filled with characters with daddy issues and the fandom is full of toxic shippers and twitter users.
@@Thunderblock7889 That's why I stopped watching HB after the first season, it's now focusing on relationship drama and terrible sex jokes with the only things that are good are the minisodes they're putting out right now
I eventually stopped watching when it went from misadventure of these silly little imps to an emotion based goon sesh with new characters I couldn't care about each episode.
@@Thunderblock7889all the fandom cares about now is who ends up with who and what a certain characters sexualities is. Hazbin and Helluva basically turned into a romance show for most
Isn't it obvious? They do offensive crap like this. Crap that can offend a majority of people. You don't need to be a Harvard graduate to figure that out.
As a fan of Hazbin/Helluva, I hate the fact that kids have gotten into it. It should be very obvious that it's not for kids. Parents should monitor what their kids are looking at on the internet.
Dead ass I don’t like the fact kids are involved in adult fandom it isn’t normal at all it’s weird and shame on the parents for allowing their kids to watch it to
@@Lucas-to2jc It’s not her fault that a bunch of kids watch her shows that’s the parents fault for not watching their kids and letting them watch a show that is not appropriate them.
@@sailorstar3148, as a creator you are also responsible no matter that you don't choose your audience but you are responsible of what you do from then going forward no matter what your audience is, your audience isn't your fault, and no one chooses what happens ever, but it’s because of that that you who have the power must be the one to choose what to do with what you have and your circumstances from then going forward, you must be the one that takes the reins and is responsible, a thing that most "adults" lack, responsiblity, which is funny because they are supposed to be the adults, like truly adults and mature and be responsible, have values and morals, things almost no adult seems to have nowadays compared to kids when there are more kids more "adult" than the adults, and nowadays even the majority of kids are not being properly and responsibly raised by the supposed adults who are irresponsible and immoral and have 0 values that they pass on to their kids, which will cause even worse adults in the future, and they will cause even worse adults in the future and so on and so forth
Kids as young as eight watch this? I’d be more concerned about them watching this instead of shows like Simpsons or South Park. Edit: I'm not saying these shows are good for any kid to watch, I just specifically chose those two because I consider their writing superior to an extent (I thought it would be more edifying as an amateur writer myself and that some of the episodes would resonate with viewers in ways more unique than this; not that Hazbin or Helluva is bad).
@FirstLast-lw5wh The first episode, in the first few minutes, Eric calls Kyle's little brother a "dildo", and yet that's less concerning than a kid watching this show
Just wanna clarify, the situation with Digital Circus and Vivziepop blocking the person who made the joke video, that wasn't one of the creators of TADC, just a random person on Twitter. Also, ever since that video was posted, I've heard some rumors that there were loads more videos in that same vein that popped up and the joke got so tiring that Viv blocked the source. It's even being said to this day from within the fanbase that the "X if it was written by Vivziepop" meme is becoming lazy after being used so many times.
I can confirm there are lots of videos like this. I am personally not tired of them, just like I am not tired of the "Hazbin Hotel fans when they go to Hell" memes.
The guy who started it apologized afterwards and yet she still proceeded to make the same Joke when Deadpool and Wolverine came out… she’s like “oh see this piece of Media also swears, why can’t i??” When the joke had already been dead for months. It’s just petty. Just because you swear alot doesn’t make you clever.
@@cassiushellsin6243 Eh, I still see "X if it was written by Vivziepop" memes pop up, and they aren't really funny. I can understand being annoyed, especially since I myself swear a lot.
I love Hazbin but I do respect your take on this I will agree to some extent that fanbase is getting toxic the conventions I go to with these Hazbin meetups there’s always fans that ruin it for everyone with underage cosplayers who cause drama
As someone who has been apart of the hazbin hotel community for years I can agree that the fandom and the community in general is pretty cringe and crazy there are a LOT of kids who shouldn't even be on the internet yet There are a LOT of predators in the community, kids + predators = disaster The creator of hazbin and helluva does go through a lot of drama almost every day for the smallest things, that's why the community is pretty toxic There is a lot of corn, yes this is a adult show but there are a lot of kids being cockroaches and will see that stuff The show does have problems, they do show triggering topics like SA and toxic relationships but never really do it right, if your gonna have that stuff in your show at least do your research and do it right I still love the show but i actually know that there are problems when it comes to it, this place is toxic but you will still meet normal people every now and then who love the show But yea the hazbin hotel fandom is really crazy and toxic Edit: I wanna give a example on how the fandom is toxic: they literally tried to "cancel" fat nuggets... for almost looking like the pig in gravity falls, then called it "racist" 💀 Yea this place is pretty toxic
@@The-jolly-dancing-devil I sadly have to agree, it's good to take criticism so you can approve but blocking it out means you have a bigger ego then the Eiffel Tower
Same here, man! I know the show has problems, but this show has done a lot for me and still inspires me to make my own show and get my creations out into the world one day. I must be lucky because I've only met some of the kindest, funniest people in the community. Maybe because I stick to that side of the community, I don't get exposed to the, let's say, dirty underbelly of the fandom. The shows and fandom have problems, but I can't stop loving them for what they've helped me with. They inspire me and make me happy- hell, thanks to Michael, I found out I was bi. I always like to say, look on the bright side of things and show everyone the best of the community and what it can offer.
@@quadisrealtheir community is founded on sexual degeneracy. Some just don't spread their filth whenever they go, but they still beat off to gay anthro-animals.
I absolutely love the show as-well! I take no part in the fandom/community just do to the fact of how cringy it can get, and how it consist of a lot of children (yikes) Love drawing fanart and so on from the show, and its also inspired me to make my own characters and even to learn animation! But its def a show I keep mostly too myself, I like it that way anyways, avoiding the fandom to a specific degree if i can help it.
Anyone remember how the fandom would attack people that made redesigns of the hh characters. Didn't Viv like a tweet saying that people posting redesigns deserved harassment?
Vivzipop is just jelly because she sees people making better character designs than her. And because she refuses to improve her artstyle and character design she proceeds to attack the artists to make herself feel better. Gosh tumblr users are the worst.
Im a Hazbin Hotel Fan and a ✝️Christian✝️ for our lord. Just because you watch a show which has something you dont support as a small part of it.... It dosnt meant you support it......
It’s insane how in this version of hell it’s endless lgbt representation but not one Nazi, Warlord, war criminal, human rights violator, dictator, etc. what do they mean by this ??!!
@rusty7984 In the series Alastor has pretty murderer every important person when he came to hell after WW1 and there are only few old people left but Alastor hasnt killed anyone for few years because of a deal he has made and well... The only war criminals we have had in recent years have been ones that are currently eating a 5-Star menu in a Russian mansion. And Alastor could be an American WW1 war criminal it would be so him Sorry for me yapping about the show
@@MatthewMurdock-cq8xu Shut up! You do NOT approve of the stans of harassing them or anyone who does not like Hazbin Hotel! Stop behaving like an ungrateful spineless brat and start learning to grow up like a functional adult right now!
That’s just embarrassing for him like what if your a teen or something that makes sense (im 16) like you have nothing more to really concern yourself with
When the show first came to Amazon Prime Video, I legit stared at my screen, thinking about all the things I’ve seen about the fandom for about less than a hour, contemplating whether I should watch it or not. And I did end up watching it, and thought it was just alright overall. I will give them credit for the animation, it’s pretty great.
Hazbin Hotel itself is not a bad show at all, but it was a disappointement. Vivziepop is a very talented person (and artist), and i genuinely believe that. But storytelling is her weak point.
@@cropulturaarts I legitimately prefer Helluva Boss. Aside from the fact that it stays more relevant for a longer time because we have a new episode every 4 months or so. But also the color schemes of the show are much different (it's not all red) I prefer these characters. Blitz is more interesting than Charlie. Millie, Moxxie and Stolas are precious beans and funny enough my favorite part of the show is the romance drama and Blitz trying to fix his past with Fizz, Verosika etc
Remember when people keep saying "watch this bro your living under a rock your missing soo much stuff! " I am glad I am living under a rock because I never even heard of this show and Fandom.
The show is good but the fandom is VERY toxic, and the creator really needs a social media manager because at this point she's getting so many trolls that she can't tell if it's actual criticism or an insult
@@filipadsiekierka5350 i have to say, hazbin hotel doesn't feel like vivziepop wrote it, because Amazon prima had a LOT of influence in it, but I liked it, helluva boss is better though, because the writing isn't influenced by big corpo
@@filipadsiekierka5350relax bro it’s an opinion. And tbh the writing is so easy to ignore especially if your just watching the show in the background of doing something else and u don’t take it too seriously
@@3SCAPER00M13 This might be going a bit far but ignoring the Lilith stuff since that was pretty bad, Adam (considering the world he lives in) is probably the most justifiable villain in fiction. I will happily die on this hill with Alastor fan girls stabbing me.
@@theunknowncommenter725 Don’t worry, it gets much worse. Almost every single character in the show has said “fuck”, “shit” and many other strong swears multiple times (even Charlie who’s supposed to be the wholesome Angel who can do no wrong) and have even talked about their depraved sexual activities. For example, Blitzo has a whole drawer full of alphabetised horse p0rn and his attraction to horses being a running gag. couldn’t make that up if I wanted to. I’m not even joking or exaggerating when I say that Adam dropped 1 C-bomb and both the writers and fanbase treat it like a huge deal and are still outrageously mad at him for it. Wanna know the context on why he said it? He said, and I quote, “Can’t wait a whole year to slaughter those little c*nts.” Incase you don’t know, the main plot of HH is trying to rehabilitate sinners in hell for heaven before they can get exterminated by the exorcist Angel army who kill them every year to stop overpopulation in hell. So Adam is calling pedo’s, racists, murderers and other of the most vile people in the world c*nts and the fanbase act like it’s worse then having alphabetically arranged horse porn. I’m genuinely tweaking rn because I had to type that sentence. Screw Vizie and 99% of her fanbase, genuinely disgusting human beings.
No fr the double standards are INSANE in both of these shows. Like- when there's something arguably worse/something VERY bad, people are like "I sleep". But when it's something smaller/something bad but not at the same level, then they're like "CANCEL THEM!!! KILL THEM OFF THEY'RE SO HORRIBLE!!" I like these shows, but good lord I want little to nothing to do with the fandom.
If I say something about Hazbin's character designs I'd likely get flamed for it. All I can say is that I've seen lego minifigs that have cooler looking designs
Most of the design are just skinny dude and skinny girl wearing normal suit they are in hell why non of the thing they wear have any hell or demonic theme in it. It just so bland
@@shovelbox8342 Either he wanted the money, or he's just a complete sellout. HE WAS SPAWN. A sinner that is much cooler than all of the HH characters combined.
To be fair, most internet-based fandoms are awful. Mostly because the fandoms are commandeered by blue-haired malecontents, hottopic buffalo gals, and Mary-Annes (think about it) who attach themselves to the shallow drama the show presents. Same as it ever was, same as it ever was...
11:15 Those first two sentences literally show she can't take criticism, but she still hides her outrage by saying you can still criticize it, but it has to be constructive criticism. She's being passive-aggressive about it.
@@sekkzion duh i even not say that lol. Sure it does like that but i am just guessing lol. I am just wanted to guess why back then the Game’s community was less horrible (unless you tell me that even at dawn of the Games the Community are already horribles then it was act like a curse). But it could be also my poor words since i am was not English kid nor pretty well at english
@@Nopal11-v5mI'm also non native English speaker and I think you speak it well I think what happened was, back then, those communities were not the mainstay of attention and kept things to themselves. Sure, social media was there around those times as forums, but they were still something you didn't present to everyone. You kept things about the topic, to the topic. The thing is, ever since then, as social media grew extremely normalized and wide reaching, this has had a bit of a side effect where because now it's easier than ever to get outreach, attention, and what not. But because of how many people have tried using and abusing this outreach to their advantage over the years, this has caused newer and newer communities to get very polarized (at least for things with wide popularity).
@@Collie-King I mean there are valid reasons. Vivziepop is arrogant, insensitive, refuses to take any type of criticism and comes off as a complete amateur. Also this show treats sexual assault and other mature themes as a joke. Poison being a prime example of that. Disrespectful and disgusting.
As someone a part of the Hazbin and Helluva Fandom, you are so right but there is many fandoms worse that people have already listed. As I watched this video a second time, WHY IS THIS FANDOM SO CRAZY???
It's always been a niche fear of mine that a franchise I treasure gets fans like Hazbin Hotel or My Hero Academia. Closest I got was when Persona 5 fans arrived lol
As a Hazbin hotel fan I like watching the show since the pilot. It just sadden me that the fandom ruin the show and children should not watch the show bc it is a ADULT CARTOON SHOW.Parents should also monitor what their children is watching on the internet
Content farms literally ruining fandom spaces and introducing children to content and people they should not be interacting with. Content farms are the reason I didn't check out digital circus
I love the *concept* of Hazbin, and i wish it stayed indie. I love the 2010ish feel of it, I suppose I'm an elder emo--but I WHOLE- HEARTEDLY do not blame anyone for getting turned off by the fandom, or the show as a whole. IMHO the new Prime fans are way worse than the fandom it already had before the whole thing changed.
I remember writing a comment criticizing Helluva Boss that got 2K likes, and man… the replies. One kid kept on replying to me and all my other comments, I clicked on his name and… he had over 500 FUCKING COMMENTS ON THAT ONE CHANNEL. And when another video criticizing Helluva Boss came out, my comment got 1k likes and HE FUCKIN SHOWED UP AGAIN. Even other comments warned me not to engage with him because he was JUST THAT TRIGGERED. It was abysmal 😂
It could most likely be chalked up to being put on Amazon Prime. Just look at what prime originals came before it in recent years, and it starts to make sense.
@@ChinaResidence it’s just like the Dexit that occurred in Pokémon with the cut Pokedex (meaning available Pokemon in the game got cut) or people defending other big titles for lazy decisions. They aren’t fans, they are tourists. The fans care about the IP that they are willing to criticize when there’s a point that needs to be criticized, and the tourists are the ones that stroke the egos of the ones who made the bad decisions, usually in hopes of getting free stuff or an unearned job position. The last thing developers of entertainment should be saying is telling the fans to go touch grass, for the fans are the ones keeping the lights on in their overpriced office spaces.
The "target audience" aren't necessarily mature to begin with. What kind of mature adult would watch something as offensive and disrespectful as this? I don't see 30-40 year old people enjoy Hazbin Hotel. It's mostly just immature young adults. And teenagers. I'm 21 years old and I hate this show with a passion. But, to each their own
From the stuff that i have been hearing recently, Vivienne and the Hazbin/Helluva fandom are a bad taste in the mouth: constantly defensive, cringey without being funny and worse of all, they seem very very unlikable.
Vivienne encourages that stuff. "Ship who you want, it's not hurting anyone :D" Personally speaking, I don't think I'd want anyone to ship my abuser/rapist character with anyone except maybe someone on the same level of awful as them, but that's just me
I love hazbin hotel as a show! It's a 6.5-7 as far as ratings though. But the fandom is SO DISGUSTING! Luckily I haven't run into any of those fans yet. I like hazbin hotel, Im just not obsessed with it.
As a Hazbin fan myself, seeing all this stuff going on surrounding it almost makes me feel worse for even becoming a fan in the first place I had discovered the show back in mid-2018 before the pilot had even released and the trailer had showed up in my recommended, I believed the show could be my comfort show and would slowly grow an at least middling community Now I just feel awful for even having a hyperfixation on the show
Dont feel bad for your hyperfixation. Go ham! Controversy, drama and bad fandoms are inevitable. Just because other people dump on something YOU like, doesn't mean you have to conform to their standards
@@KaptainKit I know, it's just kinda rough, especially since most people see this fandom as nothing but degenerate gooners, when there are genuinely talented people out there who make great (SFW) fanart, music and cosplay Also about the kids thing, while I do believe bringing kids as young as 8 to a convention panel about the show feels wrong, I feel like the reason for the amount of kids in the fandom is that kids oftentimes don't like being thought of as kids and will often gravitate towards liking media that seems more mature for them, even if it's not suitable for them (FNAF is probably the most obvious comparison)
@@KleverKid16 Simple answer to that, people love negativity- idk why, its just that way.. the bad will ALWAYS outshine the good so that people have something to yap about. That doesnt really mean anything in the longrun, if they CHOOSE to be ignorant then so be it, fandoms almost always have that underlying 'good' side and on the kids part yeah, totally right 😭 IVE been subject to that a few times, though thats mostly just because Im super into cartoons as a whole
@@KleverKid16 Thats why having a hyperfixation is a bad thing, you can like stiff and enjoy it but being so obsessed with it is not normal, just look at the MHA fandom or Bronies and it’s pretty clear why it’s a bad thing … and now TADC is getting the same treatment and it’s going down hill. Enjoy the things you like but don’t get obsessed with it… it’s an addiction like a drug.
@@thexipherino667 sorry..?? theres nothing bad about hyperfixations what r u on about 😭 i can get how its bad being hyperfixated on people but not things..
Hazbin hotel fans when they go to hell and see endless amounts of pain, suffering, and unimaginable horror instead of furry twink demons. Edit: HOW DID I JUST START A WAR
@alexanderdavidlocarnogomez3441 that's ur belief. OPs belief is that it does exist. The two of u hv different beliefs. U think urs is right bc it's urs and he thinks his is right bc it's his
@@Lo0ny_T0ons I agree back then there was less options to prevent your kids from watching stuff like family guy or south park but I feel like parents today hardly protect their children from viewing inappropriate things
@@alastortheworshipperofkhorne yeah because they are so caught up in theirselves if I ever become a parent. I will put my child’s safety and sanity first. Not let them fall down the same rabbit hole as mine
@@Lo0ny_T0ons oh definitely in my case I never watched anything messes in the internet cause I never access to it for a long time till gotten my first phone and the shows I've watched didn't effect my behavior
I don't mean to be disrespectful, but are you really *that* oblivious? We are talking a show that features animated demon pornstars, sex scenes with what are basically monsters and more offensive shit. Most people wouldn't tolerate something so vulgar and off-putting, especially Christians. A majority of the world.
As a hh fan royalty is telling the truth and I agree with him. The Fandom is illiteraly cringe and I cant handle it anymore The cosplaying is just embarrassing as hell just put the fries in the bag instead of cosplaying and uploading to tik tok
IMO it’s honestly still very cringe, I remember watching helluva boss a few years ago when it wasn’t as popular and cringey but only finished the 1st season, and just couldn’t bring myself to watch anymore.
I lost interest in the story of Helluva Boss, but I'm rewatching them (one by one) just for a swap fic while simultaneously fix some issues (Major or Minor) that plagued the show
@@BraidensWorldEntertainment yeah I understand what you mean, I believe it was between the wolf girl and some other character, around there it seem to start changing plots.
@@No1harris_98 right now from what i‘ve seen in the more recent episodes it just feels like a long love story between Stolas and Blitz with the occasional side plot going on at the same time
I personally think it’s funny that everyone is freaking out over the fact that kids are watching it while I’m sitting here remembering being 8 years old and watching adultswim.
True but that's different, HH is extremely sexualized which don't get me wrong, adult swim had its moments. not to mention, a lot of these children watching HH have Tiktok and most likely search HH and see those videos
So I was playing an online game where we can customize characters. I was hanging out with some friends when a Valentino 'cosplayer' walked over to my character and said they wanted to SA me (they used much harsher wording). They then proceeded to say the most gross shit I've ever heard while chatting with another HH cosplayer. That kinda ruined it for me.
As someone who enjoys hazbin hotel, I wish the fandom was more peaceful and less sexualized, cringe, filled with children and so many people who can't take opinions that don't match theirs
I swear vizziepop need to tell the younger fans that hazbin hotel and helluva boss is not made for children since it's in the same level of adult humor and situations as South Park and Rick & Morty
3:27 maybe I’m just being a sensitive sally but there is nothing wrong with what this person is doing I’ve seen so much hate for them and it makes no sense? There’s nothing wrong with people getting emotional over media this is normal stuff I feel like people are only hating on them because they’re reacting this way about hazbin (a already heavily disliked show)
Reminds me of how the Creepypasta fandom got worse and more cringe when shipping-obsessed kids and teenage anime fangirls got a hold of it. To the point where the Slenderman Stabbing happened because parents of the perpetrators didn't get their kids help for their mental illnesses. It didn't help that so many young people, including the perpetrators, glorified and romanticized villainous monsters and serial killers like Jeff the Killer, Slenderman, Laughing Jack, Smile.jpg, Ben from Ben Drowned, etc. even to the point of dragging in Marble Hornets characters such as Tim and Brian (nicknamed Masky and Hoodie due to the mask the former wears and the hood the latter wears) into the fandom. The perpetrators of the Slenderman Stabbing had wanted to kill their "friend" to appease Slenderman in the hopes of him whisking them away to live with him and the other 'pasta characters in his "mansion" (a concept the shipping fandom created), so they tricked their "friend" into playing hide-and-seek in a forest, and then ended up stabbing her 19 times. Luckily she survived and managed to crawl her way to a nearby road where a cyclist found her.
Buddy there is a big difference between those 2 fandoms. The creepypasta died out because it got boring and people realised its cringe. Not because of anime girls or obsessed kids or whatever you are saying. And you cant blame the same thing on Hazbin hotel. The fandom of Hazbin hotel is obviously going to be cringe and very sexual like the show itself:/
Who would have thought the show that trivializes sexual deviancy and the eternal torment of hell would have a fan-base made up of creeps and weirdos? Imagine my shock.
To be fair, all the main characters have their relative backstories as to why their in hell that doesn't involve their sexuality, but that's a good point. You never see any actual bad ppl besides alastor who was serial killer, which is weird 😭
A lot of fandom cringe boils down to "children invaded an adult space" and "adults invaded a kid's space".
Karma a bitch
I fear for the kids being in this fandom
The fact this show is for preadults ( older teenagers) and adults but the fandom makes it seem like its for kids is concerning.
the HB and HT fandoms are just teenagers/kids in this fandom, and also i should speak for myself since im still a kid but moved on from Helluva Boss lol
@@moniqueperkinsmpGood, you’re better off without those shows. Godspeed
my younger cousin is in the hh fandom and absolutely loves the show.
one problem; SHE IS 10 YEARS OLD.
do her parents know what its about? if not, talk to them about it because thats a HUGE problem
Sorry for your lost
she’s too far gone put her down while you have the chance…..
My sister, who is 12, and she plays the soundtrack like it's a god damn disney movie.
Dawg tell her parents PLEASE.
The show literally has an 18+ at the beginning. Please parents do your actual job 😭💀
Nuh its too much hard to do the job we signed for by making a child
Hypocrasy showing
@@OGCHUCK1 is it against me?
@@OGCHUCK1 "hypocrasy"
@@OGCHUCK1 shh Lil bro
Hazbin Hotel: "I have the worst fandom!"
MHA: "No I do!"
???: "Amateurs..."
Hazbin Hotel: "What did you say, Punk!"
The Loud House: "Amateurs!"
It's always an animated show
@@Tempus0pticanimated show targetted for the young demographics, Specifically
I was thinking of the loud house also what does MHA stand for?
@@youtubegod6357 My Hero Academia
Jjk fandom has entered the chat
hazbin hotel fans when they find out satan isnt a twink
Hazbin Hotel fans when they go to Hell and are consumed within the gnarling and gnashing of teeth.
[ This isn’t what they expected, despite Hell being claimed to be a terrible place. ]
hazbin hotel fans when they see real demons
South Park's Satan is so much cooler than this one
Bro I’m a hh fan but that made me laugh 💜
@@robblequoffle8456 fr man
If we have a kids show, adults will destroy it - my little pony
If we have a adults show, kids will destroy it - Hazbin
Its a never ending circle
The sigh of relief I gave when I realized kids aren't watching the new Penguin series.
@@TinyToadSagewell is it a cartoon?
How did adults ruin the show? (I'm not saying you're wrong I'm just curious because I've never heard that before)
@@spoutinghorn3I’m wondering this too. As long as adults stay in their spaces in fandoms (aka out of the children side), I don’t see a problem with adults liking media where the target demographic skews younger
Maybe if HH wasn't formatted to be a child's interpretation of an adult show then maybe we wouldn't have this issue.
You can't expect a show with childish violence, childish writing, childish merchandizing and childish presentation to appeal towards older demographics.
It’s weird that adult shows attract the youngest of audience and the new age cartoons for kids attracts the weirdest of adults. Look at owl house, she ra and Korra. Most of the fandom are adults and yet hazbin hotel has like little guys watching. Weird results.
It's certainly something to behold
@@sanspie029 owl house not gonna lie that has got a lot of pedos watching it
@@JeremyWoollen Do you have proof of this?
I feel like a lot of it might also be those content farm channels on RUclips were they'll market videos towards kids that really shouldn't like *insert show that's not for kids* but it's minecraft and we poorly imitate the characters or when they make videos using kids media and put jokes and gags that are inappropriate for children
Owl House and SheRa were made by mentally-ill adult tumblrinas for mentally-ill adult tumblrinas. It originally was never meant for kids. They just pushed it as a kids show to get it out there.
Any nerdy animated series with a heavy emphasis on shipping is going to have a really bad fandom. you'd think people would have learned by now.
That’s what I’m saying
Having the protagonists in both shows be about demons in Hell doesn't help either.
Hazbin is like the final boss of this though.
You may have other shows targeting teenie audiences with their hopeless and melodramatic romance plots sprinkled with dirty stuff in them in similarly edgy themes, sure, but good god has no show come close to what hazbin is man. They cranked it up to a billion, every single step they could do to please their current oddball audience they absolutely took.
@@anecro It’s overly edgy for no reason. It’s like Vivzipop never got out of her edgy middle school phase.
Or just not care or keep labeling "THE WORST FANDOM EVER" every year or so.
Considering how toxic Viv is, im not surprised the fandom is either
Yeah, she's been encouraging atrocious behavior for YEARS since her DeviantArt days.
@@BlackArts_ByVal spoilers and songs for season 2 recently leaked.
Sera at one point asks out loud "What kind of leader can't distinguish good from evil?"
Vivian is telling on herself and she doesn't even realize it.
Vivziepop lowkey stupid
What Did Viv Even Do? I Keep Hearing People Say She's Terrible & Toxic But The Only Thing I've Seen Is People Getting Mad Over The Character Designs.
@@collinkeyser6827 She can't take constructive criticism and encourages her cult followers to harass anyone who disagrees with her or gives out constructive criticism on her shows.
Hazbin is perfect example how, around 6/10 show turns to "that embarrassing thing you watch" because of it's embarrassing fandom.
Which I don’t think they won’t improve either ☹️
Literally why I domt watch anime lol
A 6/10 is being a bit too generous
@@rankrodent2772 Eh, it has a nice animation, and sometimes a rather good musical. If we look past both fandom and hatedom, there are definitely shows that are worse.
@@cyntdestroyer69xd Oh god! The hatedom! Don't get me started with that. I get not liking a show, but the sh@t they do over there is just... Dear, god.
Plus, I'm sorry you have a bad interaction with the fandom, if any. As a fan, I've had nothing but good times with people. A lot of laughs and sweet moments were shared as a fandom.
Still better than The Loud House Fandom
Based on what I've seen, I'm 99 percent sure that every Adult Loud House fan is a predator
nah
17,000,000 word Fanfic for the Loud House.
How long is that one fanfic?
I’m going to go ahead most of it is horrible.
As a Hazbin Hotel fan, I'm disgusted by some of the things people on tiktok do with it. And it's not just there. It's everywhere.
Some examples please.
I'm not saying that to defend the fans in any way, I just genuinely want to know.
@@theunknowncommenter725 I mean like all the kids getting their hands on it and just ruining it with their toxicity. Plus all the brainrot stuff. Sort of a problem in all fandoms but yeah.
Animation style was ok, universe concept was ok, music was banger. But people... they fked everything by their reactions.
@@chillingleague1244 Yep
@@julianmeyer5882 the number of mentail issues in young age is really terrifying. And considering how hard it is to monitor what kids are watching I'd say no surprice. The mentaly unstable characters became Z-generation icons. One thing is liking music, other is wearing a cosplay and singina about D sucking hoe on camera. I almost puked from how cringe it is.
As a hazbin hotel fan I HATE THE FANDOM THEY RUINED THE SHOW FOR ME
Yeah, I get that feeling too it sucks ☹️
you don't have to interact with them to access the show, how did they ruin the show for you?
search Alastor x Lucifer @@thewitchidolsachika6682
Lowkey ur problem if you let sb change your entire opinion on a show maybe u didn’t rlly like it in the first place
Same here. But thank God There are actually quite a lot of very good ones.
This is why Helluva Boss was in its prime back in 2021 when the show was barely recognized. Fandoms ruin everything, I miss helluva boss back in 2021.
Probably because back then Helluva Boss was mostly dark comedy and the characters where badass. Now it has become a tumblr fanfic filled with characters with daddy issues and the fandom is full of toxic shippers and twitter users.
@@Thunderblock7889 That's why I stopped watching HB after the first season, it's now focusing on relationship drama and terrible sex jokes with the only things that are good are the minisodes they're putting out right now
I eventually stopped watching when it went from misadventure of these silly little imps to an emotion based goon sesh with new characters I couldn't care about each episode.
@@Thunderblock7889all the fandom cares about now is who ends up with who and what a certain characters sexualities is. Hazbin and Helluva basically turned into a romance show for most
Me too. The current state regarding both the fandom and hatedom makes me want to scream and yank my hair out.
I'm still waiting on a harvard study on how fan bases like this happen.
Chronically online kids with absent parents or parents who fail to say "no".
@@Nutmeg-or adults in child safeplaces
Millennials aren't growing up
Isn't it obvious? They do offensive crap like this. Crap that can offend a majority of people. You don't need to be a Harvard graduate to figure that out.
They put queer stuff in the media. and it somehow attracts a toxic fanbase
As a fan of Hazbin/Helluva, I hate the fact that kids have gotten into it. It should be very obvious that it's not for kids. Parents should monitor what their kids are looking at on the internet.
I’m concerned about that too
Dead ass I don’t like the fact kids are involved in adult fandom it isn’t normal at all it’s weird and shame on the parents for allowing their kids to watch it to
Vivzie knows her audience is primarily kids, that's why the show is like My Little Pony for adults and the merch is "cute plushie uwu 🥺"
@@Lucas-to2jc It’s not her fault that a bunch of kids watch her shows that’s the parents fault for not watching their kids and letting them watch a show that is not appropriate them.
@@sailorstar3148, as a creator you are also responsible no matter that you don't choose your audience but you are responsible of what you do from then going forward no matter what your audience is, your audience isn't your fault, and no one chooses what happens ever, but it’s because of that that you who have the power must be the one to choose what to do with what you have and your circumstances from then going forward, you must be the one that takes the reins and is responsible, a thing that most "adults" lack, responsiblity, which is funny because they are supposed to be the adults, like truly adults and mature and be responsible, have values and morals, things almost no adult seems to have nowadays compared to kids when there are more kids more "adult" than the adults, and nowadays even the majority of kids are not being properly and responsibly raised by the supposed adults who are irresponsible and immoral and have 0 values that they pass on to their kids, which will cause even worse adults in the future, and they will cause even worse adults in the future and so on and so forth
She should've called the DOOM SLAYER if she wanted to deal with the over population in hell
Nah, doomslayer would put that hell to complete extinction, because if there's one thing hazbin hotel hell should fear instead of heaven, is HIM.
Brain rot people who mention stuff constantly because it has the smallest resemblance. Are just as bad as horrible as these fandoms.
@@thatguy5391 don't even mention doom near that thing.
@@thatguy5391 r/wooosh
@@5P_OFFICIALr/wooosh in the big october 2024 ?
Personally, I like Hazbin Hotel.
BUT WHAT THE HELL IS THIS FANDOM?! I HAVE NEVER BEEN MORE DISGUSTED IN MY LIFE!
Yeah
Yeah, same.
Kids as young as eight watch this? I’d be more concerned about them watching this instead of shows like Simpsons or South Park.
Edit: I'm not saying these shows are good for any kid to watch, I just specifically chose those two because I consider their writing superior to an extent (I thought it would be more edifying as an amateur writer myself and that some of the episodes would resonate with viewers in ways more unique than this; not that Hazbin or Helluva is bad).
I remember i watched the pilot when i was 9, so yeah we used to watch that at such young age
i don't recommend watching south park
South Park is a little much ngl 😭😭
I love the show but I shouldn’t have been watching it when I was younger
@FirstLast-lw5wh The first episode, in the first few minutes, Eric calls Kyle's little brother a "dildo", and yet that's less concerning than a kid watching this show
Like you not have watch adult show when you where a kid hypocrite.
Just wanna clarify, the situation with Digital Circus and Vivziepop blocking the person who made the joke video, that wasn't one of the creators of TADC, just a random person on Twitter. Also, ever since that video was posted, I've heard some rumors that there were loads more videos in that same vein that popped up and the joke got so tiring that Viv blocked the source. It's even being said to this day from within the fanbase that the "X if it was written by Vivziepop" meme is becoming lazy after being used so many times.
I can confirm there are lots of videos like this. I am personally not tired of them, just like I am not tired of the "Hazbin Hotel fans when they go to Hell" memes.
The guy who started it apologized afterwards and yet she still proceeded to make the same Joke when Deadpool and Wolverine came out… she’s like “oh see this piece of Media also swears, why can’t i??” When the joke had already been dead for months.
It’s just petty. Just because you swear alot doesn’t make you clever.
@@cassiushellsin6243 Eh, I still see "X if it was written by Vivziepop" memes pop up, and they aren't really funny. I can understand being annoyed, especially since I myself swear a lot.
@@cassiushellsin6243 If she thinks the swearing is the reason people enjoy this movie, she definitely needs a reality check.
So she says
I love Hazbin but I do respect your take on this
I will agree to some extent that fanbase is getting toxic the conventions I go to with these Hazbin meetups there’s always fans that ruin it for everyone with underage cosplayers who cause drama
As a sane Hazbin hotel fan, I apologize for these people
Same
"sane" and "hazbin hotel fan" do not go together
@@ddarkslide8991 it’s rare
But it’s possible
@@ddarkslide8991 Yes they do. Stop stereotyping people just because they watch a show you dislike.
Same here bro
As someone who has been apart of the hazbin hotel community for years I can agree that the fandom and the community in general is pretty cringe and crazy
there are a LOT of kids who shouldn't even be on the internet yet
There are a LOT of predators in the community, kids + predators = disaster
The creator of hazbin and helluva does go through a lot of drama almost every day for the smallest things, that's why the community is pretty toxic
There is a lot of corn, yes this is a adult show but there are a lot of kids being cockroaches and will see that stuff
The show does have problems, they do show triggering topics like SA and toxic relationships but never really do it right, if your gonna have that stuff in your show at least do your research and do it right
I still love the show but i actually know that there are problems when it comes to it, this place is toxic but you will still meet normal people every now and then who love the show
But yea the hazbin hotel fandom is really crazy and toxic
Edit: I wanna give a example on how the fandom is toxic: they literally tried to "cancel" fat nuggets... for almost looking like the pig in gravity falls, then called it "racist" 💀
Yea this place is pretty toxic
agreed :3
I fear that the show won’t improved because how prideful The creator is. which isn’t a good sign
@@The-jolly-dancing-devil I sadly have to agree, it's good to take criticism so you can approve but blocking it out means you have a bigger ego then the Eiffel Tower
@@WildHusko exactly pride does not improve it only leads to destruction loop with no end
Same here, man! I know the show has problems, but this show has done a lot for me and still inspires me to make my own show and get my creations out into the world one day. I must be lucky because I've only met some of the kindest, funniest people in the community. Maybe because I stick to that side of the community, I don't get exposed to the, let's say, dirty underbelly of the fandom.
The shows and fandom have problems, but I can't stop loving them for what they've helped me with. They inspire me and make me happy- hell, thanks to Michael, I found out I was bi. I always like to say, look on the bright side of things and show everyone the best of the community and what it can offer.
Hearing a kid ask about Blake all the moaning sex stuff made me cringe so hard I shut my eyes and just overall shut off for a few seconds
Isn't it illegal to show kids p*rn regardless??? That's beyond messed up...
Funny thing is hazbin hotel doesnt have actual porn except for sounds and talk@@TinyToadSage
......... same
Wth....
VRChat fandom, Hazbin Hotel fandom, and Furry fandom. What’s the difference? It’s always the same people.
Furries are actually not that bad tho fr😭🙏 its 50:50, its either erp or genuinly nice ppl
@@quadisreal fr
Same shit different toilet
@@quadisrealtheir community is founded on sexual degeneracy. Some just don't spread their filth whenever they go, but they still beat off to gay anthro-animals.
@@quadisreal I like the furries, but if you hang around them too long eventually it will go......there
I like hazbin hotel but i am NOT in the fandom/community. Those kids are freaky
I fear for the kids in the fandom also i’ll try to not let the craziness of the fanbase ruin the show for me
@@sailorstar3148 Preech!
Thats the worse part. Half the fandom are children and its not even meant for kids
@@Messy_lawn_clippings but thanks to content farms like brainrot contents with no dad returning with milk generation is doomed.
I absolutely love the show as-well! I take no part in the fandom/community just do to the fact of how cringy it can get, and how it consist of a lot of children (yikes)
Love drawing fanart and so on from the show, and its also inspired me to make my own characters and even to learn animation! But its def a show I keep mostly too myself, I like it that way anyways, avoiding the fandom to a specific degree if i can help it.
Im SOOO glad i grew up with the slendytubbies fandom.
Same but i grew up with the fnaf fandon
YO, I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS!!!
"The Hazbin hotel fandom is the worst!!"
The mha fandom:
Nevermind....
The mha fandom has died down its weirdness ( kind of )
@@GrimX3 they migrated to other shounen animes 😔
Jjk fandom: 🌚
both are kind of the same yo
I got banned from the hazbin hotel sub reddit for saying that 12 and below shouldnt be watching. Theyre enabling in atp 😭😭
Anyone remember how the fandom would attack people that made redesigns of the hh characters. Didn't Viv like a tweet saying that people posting redesigns deserved harassment?
Vivzipop is just jelly because she sees people making better character designs than her. And because she refuses to improve her artstyle and character design she proceeds to attack the artists to make herself feel better. Gosh tumblr users are the worst.
@@Thunderblock7889I havent seen a single redesign that was actually good 💀
@@TheBritishHunter830 What is good to you?
Dawg that last part sounds completely made up
@@Vierra666 not terrible and completely around and related to the original down to atleast colors and art design.
Hazbin hotel fans when they realize hell is eternal punishment and not eternal lgbt representation:
For real
Im a Hazbin Hotel Fan and a ✝️Christian✝️ for our lord.
Just because you watch a show which has something you dont support as a small part of it.... It dosnt meant you support it......
@Miro.A.Mursu- I do support LGBT stuff kiddo. You're an idiot, go back to school.
It’s insane how in this version of hell it’s endless lgbt representation but not one Nazi, Warlord, war criminal, human rights violator, dictator, etc. what do they mean by this ??!!
@rusty7984 In the series Alastor has pretty murderer every important person when he came to hell after WW1 and there are only few old people left but Alastor hasnt killed anyone for few years because of a deal he has made and well... The only war criminals we have had in recent years have been ones that are currently eating a 5-Star menu in a Russian mansion. And Alastor could be an American WW1 war criminal it would be so him
Sorry for me yapping about the show
I got attacked by the fandom all because I told hot topic that I want smiling friends merch and not hazbin hotel
Fr yeah Crazy toxic HB HH fandom made 3 people did suicide
@@Oreo-kv4gc really? that's so horrible
Good
@@EtsukoWasTaken Shay and two more fans committed suicide over ships.
@@MatthewMurdock-cq8xu Shut up! You do NOT approve of the stans of harassing them or anyone who does not like Hazbin Hotel! Stop behaving like an ungrateful spineless brat and start learning to grow up like a functional adult right now!
Someone at work is obsessed with this, we all ignored him in teams lol
???
That’s just embarrassing for him like what if your a teen or something that makes sense (im 16) like you have nothing more to really concern yourself with
When the show first came to Amazon Prime Video, I legit stared at my screen, thinking about all the things I’ve seen about the fandom for about less than a hour, contemplating whether I should watch it or not. And I did end up watching it, and thought it was just alright overall. I will give them credit for the animation, it’s pretty great.
Imagine caring so much. I mean good for you but there are so many other pieces of media that are good but have bad fandoms
@@verspincry
Hazbin Hotel itself is not a bad show at all, but it was a disappointement. Vivziepop is a very talented person (and artist), and i genuinely believe that. But storytelling is her weak point.
@@cropulturaarts I legitimately prefer Helluva Boss. Aside from the fact that it stays more relevant for a longer time because we have a new episode every 4 months or so. But also the color schemes of the show are much different (it's not all red) I prefer these characters. Blitz is more interesting than Charlie. Millie, Moxxie and Stolas are precious beans and funny enough my favorite part of the show is the romance drama and Blitz trying to fix his past with Fizz, Verosika etc
@@SaulTeeNutz the Jeff bezos Amazon drone hub is a meme.
The Thanos beatboxing guy spending thousands of dollars for a video of him and Charlie will never not be funny
True, it's been 8 months and the whole situation still feels ironic (at least for me).
Truly brought the internet together
3:50 "why do they look the same"
Bro, cosplayers always look same, especially female ones
Always that one face
So I wasn't the only one
Idk man, I have a round face
@@FaeFixion it's not about shape of face, it's about how this face looks
oh my god i thought i was the only one who noticed it
i truly dont get what you mean by that,they dont look the same bro
Remember when people keep saying "watch this bro your living under a rock your missing soo much stuff! "
I am glad I am living under a rock because I never even heard of this show and Fandom.
The show is good but the fandom is VERY toxic, and the creator really needs a social media manager because at this point she's getting so many trolls that she can't tell if it's actual criticism or an insult
@@ythegamerita ”The show is good”? Dude the writing is abysmal, no amount animation polish can fix characters that are written like a bad fanfic
@@filipadsiekierka5350 i have to say, hazbin hotel doesn't feel like vivziepop wrote it, because Amazon prima had a LOT of influence in it, but I liked it, helluva boss is better though, because the writing isn't influenced by big corpo
@@filipadsiekierka5350 sum tells me you can’t handle opinions
@@filipadsiekierka5350relax bro it’s an opinion. And tbh the writing is so easy to ignore especially if your just watching the show in the background of doing something else and u don’t take it too seriously
HH/HB fans when Blitzo’s sister grooms a teenager for drugs and gets him killed: 😄😄😄
HH/HB fans when Adam says something kinda cringe: 🤬🤬🤬😡😡😡🤮🤮🤮
Tells me a lot about how completely messed up their morals are both the creators of the shows and the fans themselves.
Yeah, the shows have ridiculous and outright evil double standards.
@@3SCAPER00M13 This might be going a bit far but ignoring the Lilith stuff since that was pretty bad, Adam (considering the world he lives in) is probably the most justifiable villain in fiction. I will happily die on this hill with Alastor fan girls stabbing me.
@@theunknowncommenter725 Don’t worry, it gets much worse.
Almost every single character in the show has said “fuck”, “shit” and many other strong swears multiple times (even Charlie who’s supposed to be the wholesome Angel who can do no wrong) and have even talked about their depraved sexual activities. For example, Blitzo has a whole drawer full of alphabetised horse p0rn and his attraction to horses being a running gag. couldn’t make that up if I wanted to.
I’m not even joking or exaggerating when I say that Adam dropped 1 C-bomb and both the writers and fanbase treat it like a huge deal and are still outrageously mad at him for it. Wanna know the context on why he said it? He said, and I quote, “Can’t wait a whole year to slaughter those little c*nts.” Incase you don’t know, the main plot of HH is trying to rehabilitate sinners in hell for heaven before they can get exterminated by the exorcist Angel army who kill them every year to stop overpopulation in hell. So Adam is calling pedo’s, racists, murderers and other of the most vile people in the world c*nts and the fanbase act like it’s worse then having alphabetically arranged horse porn. I’m genuinely tweaking rn because I had to type that sentence. Screw Vizie and 99% of her fanbase, genuinely disgusting human beings.
No fr the double standards are INSANE in both of these shows. Like- when there's something arguably worse/something VERY bad, people are like "I sleep". But when it's something smaller/something bad but not at the same level, then they're like "CANCEL THEM!!! KILL THEM OFF THEY'RE SO HORRIBLE!!"
I like these shows, but good lord I want little to nothing to do with the fandom.
If I say something about Hazbin's character designs I'd likely get flamed for it. All I can say is that I've seen lego minifigs that have cooler looking designs
You’re not wrong Lego mini figures do you have pretty cool designs especially the superhero ones
Most of the design are just skinny dude and skinny girl wearing normal suit they are in hell why non of the thing they wear have any hell or demonic theme in it. It just so bland
@@sailorstar3148you are a failed school project 🧌
I don’t like how a lot of the dudes are wearing… the same style of hat. Not even different types of hats, it’s just “🎩”
lego minifigs are awesome fr fr
i feel bad for keith david for being in this
@@shovelbox8342 Either he wanted the money, or he's just a complete sellout. HE WAS SPAWN. A sinner that is much cooler than all of the HH characters combined.
7:30 why is a kid even there in the first place? shouldn't it be 16+?
Maybe because they don’t know any better
Why not call V1 from ultrakill to solve the overpopulation?
PRIDE /// RING 1
VIOLENCE IS IN THE PORTION
Or Doomguy
@@Ididtherightthingor both 😏
Solved problem:
Overpopulation
New problem:
Lack of a population
It's even better when V1 casually kills angels, so it's 2 populations eradicated.
would be interesting what blood V1 prefers.
To be fair, most internet-based fandoms are awful. Mostly because the fandoms are commandeered by blue-haired malecontents, hottopic buffalo gals, and Mary-Annes (think about it) who attach themselves to the shallow drama the show presents. Same as it ever was, same as it ever was...
Talking heads reference!!!
@@stztrt9288Once in a lifetime.
Yeah, this is accurate. Because normal people have better stuff to do.
11:15 Those first two sentences literally show she can't take criticism, but she still hides her outrage by saying you can still criticize it, but it has to be constructive criticism. She's being passive-aggressive about it.
Feel weird that when we were kids in 2000s playing GTA San Andreas but never harm the community while kids in 2010s and 2020s were very different.
Well….i think during that times the Social Media was pretty rare back then. But idk since i am born in 2009
@@Nopal11-v5m"i miss the good old times..." YOU WERE A NEWBORN B
@@sekkzion duh i even not say that lol. Sure it does like that but i am just guessing lol. I am just wanted to guess why back then the Game’s community was less horrible (unless you tell me that even at dawn of the Games the Community are already horribles then it was act like a curse).
But it could be also my poor words since i am was not English kid nor pretty well at english
@@Nopal11-v5mI'm also non native English speaker and I think you speak it well
I think what happened was, back then, those communities were not the mainstay of attention and kept things to themselves. Sure, social media was there around those times as forums, but they were still something you didn't present to everyone. You kept things about the topic, to the topic.
The thing is, ever since then, as social media grew extremely normalized and wide reaching, this has had a bit of a side effect where because now it's easier than ever to get outreach, attention, and what not. But because of how many people have tried using and abusing this outreach to their advantage over the years, this has caused newer and newer communities to get very polarized (at least for things with wide popularity).
Gosh I miss the 2000s. Ever since 2010 society has gone downhill, like alot.
I'm so glad we're at the point where we apply genuine criticism and bashing whatever shit vivziepop makes
I fear that the show won’t improved because how dangerous prideful she is
I fear that the show won’t improved because how prideful The creator is. which isn’t a good sign
@@The-jolly-dancing-devil yeah. I personally feel they need to calm down a bit with the horniness and constant swearing
@@Maximum4power BUT ITS HELL, THERE SUPOSED TO BE BADDIES!!1!1!1!1!1!1!!
@@thewitchidolsachika6682 shut up
I’m a Hazbin fan, and I’m so ashamed to say that sometimes.
Don't be, you're perfectly valid to like it if you do. It's just the way These particular fans act in communities and public areas
then dont be apart of it. but judging from your pfp, i dont think you'd be smart enough to listen
@@Collie-King I mean there are valid reasons. Vivziepop is arrogant, insensitive, refuses to take any type of criticism and comes off as a complete amateur. Also this show treats sexual assault and other mature themes as a joke. Poison being a prime example of that.
Disrespectful and disgusting.
@@MokPlex You have an MHA PFP. You're a pot calling a kettle black here.
Hey, don't be too ashamed. It's a show. Just focus on that and not the Fandom. There's positives to every negative, and all that jazz.
As someone a part of the Hazbin and Helluva Fandom, you are so right but there is many fandoms worse that people have already listed.
As I watched this video a second time, WHY IS THIS FANDOM SO CRAZY???
Nah your fandom is still pretty bad
Nah I mean at least the other shows as popular as them have good writing, it's just bad fandom.
These two have none
@@Ssankm1 hazbins writing also sucks so a bad show and a bad fandom
@@falsum6913 exactly
It doesn't really help that the creator herself is toxic as well and enables of some of the behavior in her fandom.
It's always been a niche fear of mine that a franchise I treasure gets fans like Hazbin Hotel or My Hero Academia. Closest I got was when Persona 5 fans arrived lol
Jenny mod fan right here
@@Royaltyishereyo chill
There’s a reason why gatekeeping exists
i'm convinced most of the weirdo fans from MHA moved to Hazbin ever since the PLW Arc and the Final War lol
I'm so glad the Naruto fandom I'm apart of is chill...
As a Hazbin hotel fan I like watching the show since the pilot. It just sadden me that the fandom ruin the show and children should not watch the show bc it is a ADULT CARTOON SHOW.Parents should also monitor what their children is watching on the internet
Eyup same because of content farms like glitch smg4 and lankbox I wish boycott them. 😭😭😭
Content farms literally ruining fandom spaces and introducing children to content and people they should not be interacting with. Content farms are the reason I didn't check out digital circus
@@AldrinGaldo Glitch and SMG4 aren't content farms?
@@Jedi-ge6lr but why smg4 created glitch for indie animation farm content why because of webs like mario and furry sonic fandoms. 😭😭😭
@@AldrinGaldo What?
2:41 the original music video is way worse than the verbalase chase, there’s a part where an adult starts kissing a minor and then wants to kiss a dog
Yeah, even many comments in there agreed that its more unhinged than 50k meme💀
"Kiss a dog" White women 😔😔😔😔
@@zloycommentator83"Kissing a dog" White women never learn 😔😔😔
@@zloycommentator83White women sure love dogs, a little bit too much....
Are you serious? omg...
I love the *concept* of Hazbin, and i wish it stayed indie. I love the 2010ish feel of it, I suppose I'm an elder emo--but I WHOLE- HEARTEDLY do not blame anyone for getting turned off by the fandom, or the show as a whole. IMHO the new Prime fans are way worse than the fandom it already had before the whole thing changed.
I, too, loved the concept. It's the execution that really pisses me off.
@@borisstoyanov3488 Same here.
It's true, Vizie cannot take criticism. Let alone memes.
Yet she's extremely toxic & incapable of growth as well. So she can dish it out but is completely incapable of taking it on the chin
In other news, we need oxygen to live.
And that every 60 seconds, a minute passes in Africa🌍
@@zloycommentator83 Fire is orange in colour
The sky is blue in the daytime.
oranges are orange 🍊
@@zloycommentator83 People Die when they are killed.
I remember when the show came out and it wasnt good but all the comments were praising it and the few that were criticizing it had like 100+ replies.
I remember writing a comment criticizing Helluva Boss that got 2K likes, and man… the replies. One kid kept on replying to me and all my other comments, I clicked on his name and… he had over 500 FUCKING COMMENTS ON THAT ONE CHANNEL. And when another video criticizing Helluva Boss came out, my comment got 1k likes and HE FUCKIN SHOWED UP AGAIN.
Even other comments warned me not to engage with him because he was JUST THAT TRIGGERED. It was abysmal 😂
It could most likely be chalked up to being put on Amazon Prime. Just look at what prime originals came before it in recent years, and it starts to make sense.
Yea its definitely Amazon’s fault, the show was clearly rushed. But the fans reaction to any criticism was completely unhinged.
@@ChinaResidence it’s just like the Dexit that occurred in Pokémon with the cut Pokedex (meaning available Pokemon in the game got cut) or people defending other big titles for lazy decisions.
They aren’t fans, they are tourists. The fans care about the IP that they are willing to criticize when there’s a point that needs to be criticized, and the tourists are the ones that stroke the egos of the ones who made the bad decisions, usually in hopes of getting free stuff or an unearned job position.
The last thing developers of entertainment should be saying is telling the fans to go touch grass, for the fans are the ones keeping the lights on in their overpriced office spaces.
As a fan of the show who is quite literally the complete OPPOSITE of the target audience for the show. The fandom genuinely scares me💀
Bro you literally have the r*pist character as your pfp. You are part of the problem homeslice
then why are you apart of it
@ I like the characters
@@Grezilla95 it’s just zesty edgy demons.
The "target audience" aren't necessarily mature to begin with. What kind of mature adult would watch something as offensive and disrespectful as this? I don't see 30-40 year old people enjoy Hazbin Hotel. It's mostly just immature young adults. And teenagers. I'm 21 years old and I hate this show with a passion. But, to each their own
if i ever want to be reminded about my boku no pico trauma this funny bird man always has me!
Or how I call it:
Satan's porn-collection
I enjoy the show, but I stay far far far away from any fandom.
FAR FAR FAR FAR FAR FAR FAAAARRRRRRRR
mee too
Same here, dawg. Same here.
Same
From the stuff that i have been hearing recently, Vivienne and the Hazbin/Helluva fandom are a bad taste in the mouth: constantly defensive, cringey without being funny and worse of all, they seem very very unlikable.
That's because Vivienne Medrano has been rewarding bad behavior to her fans for years.
Typical "Woke" behavior.
Vivienne encourages that stuff. "Ship who you want, it's not hurting anyone :D"
Personally speaking, I don't think I'd want anyone to ship my abuser/rapist character with anyone except maybe someone on the same level of awful as them, but that's just me
7:49 im absolutely flabbergasted
2:06 “yeah I’m not getting old…10 MONTHS AGO?!
I love hazbin hotel as a show! It's a 6.5-7 as far as ratings though. But the fandom is SO DISGUSTING! Luckily I haven't run into any of those fans yet. I like hazbin hotel, Im just not obsessed with it.
As a Hazbin fan myself, seeing all this stuff going on surrounding it almost makes me feel worse for even becoming a fan in the first place
I had discovered the show back in mid-2018 before the pilot had even released and the trailer had showed up in my recommended, I believed the show could be my comfort show and would slowly grow an at least middling community
Now I just feel awful for even having a hyperfixation on the show
Dont feel bad for your hyperfixation. Go ham! Controversy, drama and bad fandoms are inevitable. Just because other people dump on something YOU like, doesn't mean you have to conform to their standards
@@KaptainKit I know, it's just kinda rough, especially since most people see this fandom as nothing but degenerate gooners, when there are genuinely talented people out there who make great (SFW) fanart, music and cosplay
Also about the kids thing, while I do believe bringing kids as young as 8 to a convention panel about the show feels wrong, I feel like the reason for the amount of kids in the fandom is that kids oftentimes don't like being thought of as kids and will often gravitate towards liking media that seems more mature for them, even if it's not suitable for them (FNAF is probably the most obvious comparison)
@@KleverKid16 Simple answer to that, people love negativity- idk why, its just that way.. the bad will ALWAYS outshine the good so that people have something to yap about. That doesnt really mean anything in the longrun, if they CHOOSE to be ignorant then so be it, fandoms almost always have that underlying 'good' side
and on the kids part yeah, totally right 😭 IVE been subject to that a few times, though thats mostly just because Im super into cartoons as a whole
@@KleverKid16 Thats why having a hyperfixation is a bad thing, you can like stiff and enjoy it but being so obsessed with it is not normal, just look at the MHA fandom or Bronies and it’s pretty clear why it’s a bad thing … and now TADC is getting the same treatment and it’s going down hill. Enjoy the things you like but don’t get obsessed with it… it’s an addiction like a drug.
@@thexipherino667 sorry..?? theres nothing bad about hyperfixations what r u on about 😭
i can get how its bad being hyperfixated on people but not things..
6:52 ah hell nah. this isn't hazbin hotel, this is freaky hotel
Wow. A show about wildly inappropriate demons from hell has a bad fandom? shocker.
Vivienne Medrano has been encouraging atrocious behavior to her fans for YEARS since Deviantart.
Hazbin hotel fans when they go to hell and see endless amounts of pain, suffering, and unimaginable horror instead of furry twink demons.
Edit: HOW DID I JUST START A WAR
NPC comment spotted
@ shut up.
Surprise, hell is non existent
hell exists my dear, please follow Christ but you can choose suffering forever @@alexanderdavidlocarnogomez3441
@alexanderdavidlocarnogomez3441 that's ur belief. OPs belief is that it does exist. The two of u hv different beliefs. U think urs is right bc it's urs and he thinks his is right bc it's his
At least the brony fandom had a good taste for cartoons.
My Little Pony is a good show with good morals.
This crap? No.
I'm crazy, but even I find these obsessed fandoms to be psychos.
Yeahh i makes me concenred when i see the younger folk in the fandom but i cant do anything about but like you said we grew up watching mature shows l
Unlike them we didn’t have supervision or parental controls
They do and the parents of our gen need to step up and say “hey you can’t watch this.”
@@Lo0ny_T0ons I agree back then there was less options to prevent your kids from watching stuff like family guy or south park but I feel like parents today hardly protect their children from viewing inappropriate things
@@alastortheworshipperofkhorne yeah because they are so caught up in theirselves if I ever become a parent. I will put my child’s safety and sanity first. Not let them fall down the same rabbit hole as mine
@@Lo0ny_T0ons oh definitely in my case I never watched anything messes in the internet cause I never access to it for a long time till gotten my first phone and the shows I've watched didn't effect my behavior
I'm going to play some doom (2016)
I beat the game.
@@aaroncordova8961 Same.
try Ultrakill
Play dandy's world
I don't have a pc😢
beef with Scott Cawthon will NOT be tolerated
i love hazbin and have been trying to figure out why everyone hates the fanbase, so here we are LOL
oh… not even 5 mins in and i get it now LMAO
@@liv-w2o I think it’s more because we’re weird but honestly all fandoms are weird
I don't mean to be disrespectful, but are you really *that* oblivious? We are talking a show that features animated demon pornstars, sex scenes with what are basically monsters and more offensive shit. Most people wouldn't tolerate something so vulgar and off-putting, especially Christians. A majority of the world.
Great Video one of the only ones that really See it professionel and not just hate for no reason
"That really see it professionel" you are totally 8
Not really but if you want think that it’s okay
It’s embarrassing and brings me shame knowing that I’m in a fandom full of these people 😭
I feel bad that Royalty is gonna most likely have to deal with hazbin fandom attacking him :(
You and I have the same profile lol. But yeah this is ridiculous
As a hh fan royalty is telling the truth and I agree with him.
The Fandom is illiteraly cringe and I cant handle it anymore
The cosplaying is just embarrassing as hell just put the fries in the bag instead of cosplaying and uploading to tik tok
@@Shadow.fan24both you and @Thundertwin88 have the same pic facing each other, you know what that means! XENOMORPH FIIIIIIIIGGGHHHHHT
@@GentlemanCockroach lol I noticed
I would pay good money to have doomguy come to hell and purge it in season 2
If season 2 comes😂
@@giovannipaologiannatiempo57 it will, sadly
@@Starscapepilotdead ass?
@@Starscapepilotwhat’s wrong with it having a season 2 even if you don’t like it.
@@justamf82yes. Along with a season 3 and 4.
as a mentaly sane hazbin fan i can agree with your critisium
0:14 It better freaking not. If the one piece is the power of friendship, there WILL be worldwide riots.
It's confirmed it will be something tangible
IMO it’s honestly still very cringe, I remember watching helluva boss a few years ago when it wasn’t as popular and cringey but only finished the 1st season, and just couldn’t bring myself to watch anymore.
I‘m still watching the newer episodes but if i‘m honest I feel like it kind of lost the plot. Went from a group of assassins to a romance
I lost interest in the story of Helluva Boss, but I'm rewatching them (one by one) just for a swap fic while simultaneously fix some issues (Major or Minor) that plagued the show
@@BraidensWorldEntertainment yeah I understand what you mean, I believe it was between the wolf girl and some other character, around there it seem to start changing plots.
@@DylanoRevs honestly fair enough, I respect that.
@@No1harris_98 right now from what i‘ve seen in the more recent episodes it just feels like a long love story between Stolas and Blitz with the occasional side plot going on at the same time
4:26 This is such a PERFECT image😭😭
I personally think it’s funny that everyone is freaking out over the fact that kids are watching it while I’m sitting here remembering being 8 years old and watching adultswim.
True but that's different, HH is extremely sexualized which don't get me wrong, adult swim had its moments. not to mention, a lot of these children watching HH have Tiktok and most likely search HH and see those videos
Your point is invalid
So I was playing an online game where we can customize characters. I was hanging out with some friends when a Valentino 'cosplayer' walked over to my character and said they wanted to SA me (they used much harsher wording). They then proceeded to say the most gross shit I've ever heard while chatting with another HH cosplayer. That kinda ruined it for me.
Omg! What game where you playing
@@psykogamerous8391 don't judge, but it was pony town
I feel bad...at least he was being in charachter
Damn i feel bad for you dude
Damn i feel bad for you dude
Where’s V1 Ultrakill or The Doom Slayer when you need them, they got some demons to remove
-🤓
Dante and Nero too
@@androidps1440I thought Dante was a demon? Isn’t he?
@@pepebowser half demon human and he's a demon hunter
As someone who enjoys hazbin hotel, I wish the fandom was more peaceful and less sexualized, cringe, filled with children and so many people who can't take opinions that don't match theirs
To be honest you want too much from a show about gay demons who drug and do random killing and curse and show too much sexual stuff.
what sound is used at 0:31?
The Witch Theme Song (Left 4 Dead 1/ Left 4 Dead 2)
Dark Fantasy - Kanye West
Childhood trauma aka the Witch's theme from Left 4 Dead
Witch from the Soundtrack from Left 4 Dead / Left 4 Dead 2.
Do not alert the Witch
I swear vizziepop need to tell the younger fans that hazbin hotel and helluva boss is not made for children since it's in the same level of adult humor and situations as South Park and Rick & Morty
3:27 maybe I’m just being a sensitive sally but there is nothing wrong with what this person is doing I’ve seen so much hate for them and it makes no sense? There’s nothing wrong with people getting emotional over media this is normal stuff I feel like people are only hating on them because they’re reacting this way about hazbin (a already heavily disliked show)
finally someone said it
8:36 I DIDNT EXPECT ROBLOX TO APPEAR LMAO
i was thinking of alastor receiving backshots from vox
I just left the fandom 2 days ago I liked this vid
Im proud of you 🙏
I’m apart of the community and I just like the show nothing else, I even think some of them in the community take it to far, and is very wild
''The Hazbin Hotel Fandom is the Worst'' as a person from the hazbin hotel fandom, i do agree.
Expected
Reminds me of how the Creepypasta fandom got worse and more cringe when shipping-obsessed kids and teenage anime fangirls got a hold of it. To the point where the Slenderman Stabbing happened because parents of the perpetrators didn't get their kids help for their mental illnesses. It didn't help that so many young people, including the perpetrators, glorified and romanticized villainous monsters and serial killers like Jeff the Killer, Slenderman, Laughing Jack, Smile.jpg, Ben from Ben Drowned, etc. even to the point of dragging in Marble Hornets characters such as Tim and Brian (nicknamed Masky and Hoodie due to the mask the former wears and the hood the latter wears) into the fandom. The perpetrators of the Slenderman Stabbing had wanted to kill their "friend" to appease Slenderman in the hopes of him whisking them away to live with him and the other 'pasta characters in his "mansion" (a concept the shipping fandom created), so they tricked their "friend" into playing hide-and-seek in a forest, and then ended up stabbing her 19 times. Luckily she survived and managed to crawl her way to a nearby road where a cyclist found her.
This comment reminds me of Sexual Offenderman
Buddy there is a big difference between those 2 fandoms. The creepypasta died out because it got boring and people realised its cringe. Not because of anime girls or obsessed kids or whatever you are saying. And you cant blame the same thing on Hazbin hotel. The fandom of Hazbin hotel is obviously going to be cringe and very sexual like the show itself:/
Who would have thought the show that trivializes sexual deviancy and the eternal torment of hell would have a fan-base made up of creeps and weirdos? Imagine my shock.
Not all of us are like that
Both shows are cringe diarrhea, it's almost expected.
12:46 this was not the creator of TADC this was just a fan making a meme
I had to stop watching entirely at 7:39
I skipped that part bruh it was too hard 🤦♂️
It hurt my soul
I had to close my eyes and clench my jaw like I'm powering up a shield
This fandom makes the furry community look like god's gift
And the mha fandom looking like Jesus Christ
Still, I see no reason to think or believe that the furry fandom is good.
@@RileyLewis-j2w eh. they have a vocal minority of bad actors, but most of it is fine
@RileyLewis-j2w The furry community is mainly just people Who like animals only a few are those weird ass zoos
Well, at least it’s not as bad as the loud house fandom (i’m never going back to that dark place ever again)
6:01 why is bro beefing with plastic explosives?
Ikr they seem fine to me
you never see mass killers or racists in their hell, but you see tons of gays...?
To be fair, all the main characters have their relative backstories as to why their in hell that doesn't involve their sexuality, but that's a good point. You never see any actual bad ppl besides alastor who was serial killer, which is weird 😭