Before watching the video, here's my thoughts! Personally the Rubicon is someone who wants to try/going off-roading on a daily basis but doesn't need much upgrading to make that happen, the Sahara has equipment for a person who would like to daily drive a vehicle but have all the comfort compared to the Unlimited X, Overall the Rubicon is meant for someone who's going off-road, and the Sahara is meant for someone to daily drive in style, and comfort.
@@BrooklynNY1979 the rubicon has a 2.5 inch lift compared to standard changing how it drives, Sahara offers more comfort while the Rubicon will offers some off-road pleasure.
I have a JKUR. When looking around, I was going to try for a used Sport. Then I could add what I wanted later on. Problem for me was the JLUs were just around the corner when I was looking to get back into a Wrangler. A new/newer Rubi was going to be cheaper than a used Sport when figuring in the price of modding it. So I went with the Rubicon and have not regret it.
For those that don't need the added off-road features, a Sahara without aftermarket upgrades makes sense. For those that want the off-road options of a Rubicon and think they can build a "JL Rubicon" from a "JL Sahara" or "JL Sport" cheaper, pack a lunch for the following novel: Rubicon: $42,460 (base price) Sahara: $38,910 (base price) Sport S: $35,955 (base price) For the Sahara or Sport to match the Rubicon, add: Front 44 axle w/4.10 gearing and e-locker: $4,500 Re-gear rear axle to 4.10 and add e-locker: $2,500 High Top fenders: $750 Rock Slider: $365 Upgraded shocks: $500 Quick disconnects: $150 33" Tires: $1,200 Total upgrades: $9,815 (and still does not include the Rubicon transfer case, hood, skid system, and upgraded steering and brakes the Rubicon comes with) Total built-up Sahara cost: $48,875 (base price + upgrades) Total built-up Sport S cost: $45,770 (base price + upgrades) Rubicon with built-in options: $42,460 (base price + no upgrades needed) Difference: -built-up Sahara cost $6,415 more than a Rubicon and the Sport S $3,310 more than a Rubicon. -built-up Sahara/Sport will no longer have a factory 36K basic/100K powertrain Warranty after adding the upgrades. -future re-sell/trade-in value will be approximately $4,000 less with the built-up Sahara and up to $10,00 less with the built-up Sport vs the stock Rubicon. -Here is the real kicker: These aftermarket upgrades total approximately $9,815. For the Sahara you would have to pay $9,815 cash for the upgrades and then pay about $700/month for 5 years for your car payment. For the Sport you would have to pay $9,815 cash for the upgrades and then pay about $650/month for 5 years for your car payment. Since you don't need the upgrades with the Rubicon, if you put the $9,815 down on a Rubicon, your monthly payment would be around $588/month. Built-up Sahara: $700/month Built-up Sport: $650/month Rubicon: $588/month If your monthly car budget was $700, after 5 years you would have $0 left over if you built a Sahara, $3,000 left over if you built a Sport, and $6,720 left over if you bought the Rubicon. 5 years later $6,720 can go towards getting your Rubicon that lift kit you always wanted, larger tires, beadlock wheels, or hydro-assist steering, etc. And 0$, well....get's your built-up Sahara nothing. All of the naysayers in the comments so far have been JK owners which is a completely different story since the JL Rubicon front axle is very different than the JK Rubicon front axle so let's stick to the topic of this video, the JL Rubicon vs the JL Sahara.
Just something to consider, in my market the Sahara is the choice for females. That really didn't matter much to me but after much thought I decided on the Rubicon for various reasons. Me: Don't most women buy the Sahara? Salesman: YES! Um, but, um I have one! Anyway, too many females driving Wranglers around my area now. I'm going for the Rubicon. Furthermore, if you put them side-by-side, the Rubicon is definitely more rugged and masculine looking, nevermind the additional capabilities.
@@robk9685 Haha! The Sahara has more "bling" which might make it more "pretty" for that crowd...leather stitching on the dash, accents around the grill vents and headlights, and bigger rims.
@@darrenroos6408 I almost bought a Sahara thinking it would be fine for my needs and you can get the tan interior and tan soft top that I wanted but I'm SO glad I decided against it. It looks like a toy next to the Rubicon. I'm getting the steel bumpers not available on the Sahara too. Imagine someone bumping your Jeep Sahara in a parking lot and the bumper cracks in half like a Camry.
I went with a 2 door sport s. I got all the features I want for 41,000. I'm not an aggressive off roader. I enjoy basic light trails. I love the jeep life and being able to take off the doors and top. If I ever get into more off roading I'll upgrade my jeep or get a Rubicon. But for now this suits my lifestyle and puts a smile on my face every time I get into my jeep!
I just ordered my first Jeep ever, on 11-30-2020 and it arrived at the dealership on 02-12-2021. I was very impressed at how fast it was built and delivered to the dealership. I ordered a 2021 JL Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon. Mine was also white but I went with the black, 3 piece hard top, metal bumpers, and a handful of other options too.
I am absolutely loving it! I’ve already started ordering things to put on the Jeep and cannot wait to start seeing how everything starts coming together on it.
@@moviefan4life166, I ordered it with the 3.6 liter Pentastar V-6 with eTorque and the 8 speed automatic transmission. My heart wanted the manual but my needs required an automatic. About 2 or 3 weeks after I ordered my JLUR, Jeep announced the 392. Had I known about that and the new Extreme Recon package that just came out a few weeks ago I would have waited and then ordered one of those instead, but oh well. I can’t change what I ordered and already bought now, but after this JLUR gets paid off, I’ll order that set up then.
Wanted a rubicon but ended up with a high altitude although it wasn't cheap (55k). It drives so much nicer with the black 20 inch rims and looks amazing. I'm never going to off road so I prefer a premium drive and feel. I just like cruising with the top off
The High Altitude is a fully loaded Sahara with added 20" wheels, painted bumpers, mirrors, and door handles, and cool leather stitching for only an extra $1,000 more. For luxury I'd say you chose well!! Most Rubicon luxury owners paid that much or more just to have the Rubicon decal on the hood (since they never use the lockers and sway bar disconnect) and had to pay extra for the color top/fenders, prem sound, 8.4" display, LED lights, and safety group that are already included in your base price.
@@darrenroos6408 yes. I knew the rubicon was a waste of money for someone like me and I didn't like the way it drove at speed. High altitude is like the high end mall crawler lol The only reason my msrp was a little high (55k) is because the car came with a handful of add ons that I actually appreciate now but didn't at the moment of purchase. The soundproofing panels on the hardtop, dual top group and front camera was money well spent imo
I put one of the SunRider flip tops on in place of my fiberglass freedom tops and man, we love it! Like riding around in a full convertible that can easily be locked back in place if it starts to drizzle.
Good choice sir. I see nothing wrong with going for an Urban Jeep. At those owners are being honest with thier jeep vs someone who speeds 1000s to max out the off road tuff guy look and NEVER takes it off road.
Thanks for this video. Many questions answered 👍🏻 I think the Rubicon looks much better, but for a city person the Sahara seems to be the better choice.
My gf bought a Sahara in 18 with dana 44 rear option and we ended up putting 2" lift, 35s, sway quick disconnects, etc. Hindsight, Rubi probably would have made more sense to get the lockers but haven't had any capability issues on moderate/difficult trails.
I’m still having a little trouble figuring out which on to get. I love the Rubicon, but I don’t necessarily live where many trails are. I do go down to Tennessee ever year for vacation and then I travel to Galena IL every so often and want to do trail rides when I go through the mountains and rugged terrain , would a Sahara be able to handle that or would I just need a Rubicon?
@@ariannahawkins5945 if you are driving more in streets get the sahara. Sahara have road wheels, less shaking while you driving. Rubicon have dirt wheels it haves more shaking.
I consider my Sahara Unlimited the housewives/sports mom version. I love the clean lines with the matching hard top. The Rubicon has a more sporty look. I'd get one of those for son when he's old enough to drive. I can't wait to try the 1-touch roof, for convenience.
Get the Sahara if you want heated seats and your going to replace the front and rear axles with Danatrac pro rocks or something like it because your removing everthing that make a Rubicon a Rubicon less the sway bar disconnect that is usually broke anyway.
I went with the Sahara over the Rubicon purely for $$$. The dealer wanted $57,000 for a Rubi. The Sahara was $38,000. I had a gladiator but a teenager in a TJ ran into the back of me and totaled it. The wrangler is more fun to drive. But the gladiator had more utility value to it.
Money wasn’t the reason I chose Sahara over Rubicon. I discovered the Sahara was more of a road ride and Rubicon was more geared (literally) for off-roading.
I got my JL wrangler unlimited sport in 2018 , it did not come with the fancy lockers or sway bar disconnect .. I switch the headlight & fog light bulbs to LED , put tow bar & harness , weather Matt’s plus after two crack windshield invested in gorilla glass windshield .. Bought set of standers mopar aluminum wheels & put BS mud train km2 tires .. this vehicle has been in many skiing trips , hunting trips to mountain, etc .. I must say this is very capable & reliable vehicle & never ever let me down.. This is why on the side Badge it says .. Trail Rated 4*4 ... off-road experience is required regarding of owning the most expensive version of this type of vehicle..
my JL 4xe cools down icy in 100F heat (2 minutes to reasonable temps, 5 minutes to icy), and during the winter heats up equally fast. Of course, the 4xe has a different A/C system. I own an all-black JL so the sun transfers heat directly. This was a big concern of mine, as well. With the remote-start option I usually start it before tossing on my shoes and shades and by the time i open the door it's already cool inside. No regrets.
Everyone I know with a Rubicon hasn’t taken it off-road. It’s the “Executioner” skateboard for adults. (Some of you know what I’m talking about because you’re a Gen X badass like me).
Old man here and my rubi hits the dirt guite a bit. Sorry your friends don't, BUT when they do they won't get stuck as often. I'm also glad you and yours are such bad asses.
I will be ordering my Sahara 4Xe in 2-3 weeks. I wanted to go for the 6 cyl Altitude but here in Quebec the Government gives $8,000 for EV or PHEV so the 4Xe will be about $2,000 CDN cheaper that the Sahara Altitude with the Pentastar and a bunch of equipment I wanted is already coming with the 4Xe.....a no brainer.....
We get $7,500 tax credit from the feds here in the US. My 2022 Rubicon 4xe is ordered and came to $63k with hardtop. I won't be able to claim the tax credit until I do my 2022 taxes though.
I'm thinking of getting one. I will never reallt take it off road but I love the look of the Rubicon. Is it crazy to buy if your're just using it for everyday road use?
No, I have a 2019 Sahara unlimited and I absolutely love it 🥰, I use it as a street cruiser! I have taken it off road a couple of times, but I mostly use it for every day road use.
Not crazy to get the Rubicon if bigger tires are in your future. Even if you don't offroad it, with a larger tire the Rubicon has a stronger front axle, better brakes, a better axle gear ratio, and more clearance for bigger tires. If you are going to always keep it with the stock sized tires and never off-road, I would lean towards the Sahara.
It is the best, I have a rubicon for daily driving lifted, and 315 with rockstar rims on it. Cords performance exhaust k and n cold air intake with leather seats, it is the. Eat
Thanks for the info and great video! I went with the Rubicon. FYI, the bummer part of the one touch hard top is the back glass DOES NOT come out. Only the side glass. :-(
The Sahara will most likely be my choice. The Wrangler has been my dream car ever since I was a kid. The main features I wanted were the My Sky roof, a V6 engine, and power windows. Not many trails here in the Chicago area, lol.
Great video. Wish you would have touched on the Differences between the two as far as pavement driving is concerned . Ride Ride quality between the two i.e. is the Rubicon stiff and Unruly on pavement or is the difference so slight that you’ve never even know it.
This isn’t accurate at all ... I have to ask what this is based on? I have owned and built both and the Rubicon is hands down the best deal! Have you ever priced out lockers? Getting your Jeep regeared? The D44 that comes with the rubicon? Hell even how much it costs for the high clearance fenders to fit larger tires? Now have you actually tried to do any of that work yourself? If so you would know how much time, knowledge and variety of tools that would take. 99% of jeep buyers won’t be changing out those options / if you’re building a new wrangler for 40s ... money is no object Also the hood alone is a 1500 upgrade ... Additionally you get off-road tires from the factory which even if your not going to use, can sell for a lot more than the stock Sahara wheels/tires
@@street_legal_go_kart7356 You built it? If you have the time and ability it’s possible ... 9/10 people don’t have both the time and/or ability. And I’m going to say that’s literally impossible to have it built by someone other than yourself for 10k.
U can literally buy a cheaper wrangler use the difference you would of spent on a rubicon and make it way better, ur buying factory parts when u can just buy better stuff urself
I love my 2021 fully loaded Sahara. The one touch roof is nice. Only thing the factory plastic bumper are crap. Just touch them in the cold and they crack. Less than 1000 miles and one cold Maine winter day did in the bumper.
Excellent info CJ.. We’re thinking to purchase Rubicon good i saw and watch your video.. What’s the location of this dealership cuz we only have one in our area.. Thank You
I’m willing to bet that 9 out of 10 people who went with the Sahara have buyer’s remorse. For exactly the same price you get so much more with a Rubi. Not to mention the significant resale value down the road
@@thebulgarianguy8461 If you go to the Jeep site, you will see that the Rubicon is more expensive because it has upgraded and offroad features, steel bumper, bigger tires, etc. I have a Rubicon.
If I’m only planning on primarily going to the beach/dunes/trails and maybe some snow, is the Sahara the best choice? I plan on adding a lift kit and bigger tires, and other upgrades along the way. I don’t plan on rock climbing but can’t decide if a rubicon is necessary for the type of off-roading I like to do.
What is a possible help the rubi has over the Sahara is the front and rear lockers. But that only helps if you're in low 4 the lockes won't engage in 4 high. Traveling in snow might be done in faster speeds then low can accommodate. Just food for thought.
Even if you don't offroad it if you are going with a larger tire, the Rubicon is a better choice. The Rubicon has a stronger front axle, better brakes, a better axle gear ratio, and more clearance for bigger tires.
I bought my Gladiator with Rubicon package, and added a leveling kit. Keeping it basically stock. BUT if I was going to lift it 4 or 6 inches that means I would have to scrap the stock shocks and springs I would have bought a Willys edition and just add lockers and still saved money.
This video was a little too bias for the Rubicon. Most people don't even use the offroad features that the Rubicon has and the Sahara is the much better pick as it drives better on the road than the rubicon.
Jeep should put that side step from factory on Rubicon models, more useful since it's being used on streets most of the time. The railings should be boxed and included inside the vehicle.
I just bought a rubicon with hardtop, I would like to put a soft top . How much money should I have to do that. What’s the difference between a wrangler rubicon and a rubicon unlimited.thank you
You talk about what you can get with each model, I wish you’d stick strictly to a base Rubicon vs. a base Sahara. This way we could concentrate on the actual differences.
We originally went to look at a Teal Sarah, leather and sat nav. My wife wasn’t impressed. She said to her it “doesn’t feel like a Jeep should feel”. We saw the Willys, drove it and she said “THIS is how a Jeep should be”.
the JL grill is actually reminiscent of 1) CJ5/7 grill with headlight protruding into slate area and 2) YJ grill which has a more pronounced bow in the slates as does JL, TJ grill is closer to JK grill with its ever so slight bow in the slats over the JK having none .. the TJ signal lights on fender like JL and YJ rectangular headlight buckets maybe sway people left and right , have owned all but the JL and that's what I see. It interesting Rubi can now have everything Sahara does ++ , used and fairly new with similar mileage the prices seem similar where I am ...
@@socalnsx @FUHL the dash color also depends on the leather color if you upgrade to leather. If you get the tan leather you get the grey dash in the Rubicon.
Turn off the background music. It is beyond me why RUclips content creators think it is cool playing background music over their voice. We came to hear and understand what you say. Yes, yes, yes, background music is creative license, however it license is for you not your viewers. Many viewers have hearing difficulties, thus while we intently concentrate on your voice, we must also concentrate on tuning out your background music which quickly becomes very annoying and intrusive.
Nice one rubicon. May I ask a favor from Jeep wranglers management. To please let the viewers or followers of "Jeep". That how come for decades now have had passed. The Jeep Wrangler company never improve its two front seats to POWERED one. What I mean to powered seats adjustment. They do improved/update its Engines/doors/tires/camera & in other parts yearly. But the two front seats in Jeep wrangler seems is likened to the tree of life in the garden of EDEN. "forbidden to be powered/improve "
Got to love it when these “experts” are so vague about the off-road differences, saying generalities like, you can take the Rubicon down more difficult trails. Uh, ok, thanks Mr. Expert, that’ll help my teenage daughter make a buying decision for driving to the mall I guess. How about some specific conditions the Rubicon can handle that the Sahara can’t?
@@street_legal_go_kart7356 No, the info in this video is perfect for a teen girl to make a decision. I guess my point sailed right past ya. My bad, I should have articulated it better.
@@SpaceTravel1776 You probably already know this but to answer your question for those who might not, if you off-road on rocks or terrain where one front wheel lifts off the ground, in a Sahara the wheel on the ground will stop turning since the power will transfer to the wheel with less friction. In a Rubicon the electronic swaybar disconnect will give more articulation in the front so that it is less likely that a front wheel will leave the ground. And if the obstacle or terrain is severe enough that a front or rear wheel still leave the ground with the sway bar disconnected, you have electronic axle lockers that will lock the axle and put equal power to both the wheel on the ground and the one in the air to give you the traction you need to drive out of that situation. The lockers will also help the same way if all wheels are on the ground but you are stuck because some of the wheels start spinning in sand or snow.
@@darrenroos6408 yes if they work at all unfortunately. Sway bar disconnect system goes out and no one can find parts to fix it. A guy on JL Forums has been through three Rubicon rear ends because of a sensor not sealed correctly from what l read. Also all Wranglers have electric traction control that will send power to the wheel with most traction almost like a locker. People on the JL forums say their base Sports will go places that will scare you ha.
Thanks for this video. Really appreciate it. How about the diesel vs gas engine. Could you please explain in a future video or something like that? Thank you
I purchased a '21 JLU Rubicon with the ecodiesel and I love it. It doesn't get great mpg probably due to me having a heavy foot but the torque is amazing. It's untouchable off road. Definitely worth the premium I paid.
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Before watching the video, here's my thoughts! Personally the Rubicon is someone who wants to try/going off-roading on a daily basis but doesn't need much upgrading to make that happen, the Sahara has equipment for a person who would like to daily drive a vehicle but have all the comfort compared to the Unlimited X, Overall the Rubicon is meant for someone who's going off-road, and the Sahara is meant for someone to daily drive in style, and comfort.
The prices are often very close, but the rubi looks so much better.
And Sahara unlimited why not
So, the Rubi doesn't offer more comfort over the Sahara?
@@BrooklynNY1979 the rubicon has a 2.5 inch lift compared to standard changing how it drives, Sahara offers more comfort while the Rubicon will offers some off-road pleasure.
I have a JKUR. When looking around, I was going to try for a used Sport. Then I could add what I wanted later on.
Problem for me was the JLUs were just around the corner when I was looking to get back into a Wrangler. A new/newer Rubi was going to be cheaper than a used Sport when figuring in the price of modding it. So I went with the Rubicon and have not regret it.
For those that don't need the added off-road features, a Sahara without aftermarket upgrades makes sense. For those that want the off-road options of a Rubicon and think they can build a "JL Rubicon" from a "JL Sahara" or "JL Sport" cheaper, pack a lunch for the following novel:
Rubicon: $42,460 (base price)
Sahara: $38,910 (base price)
Sport S: $35,955 (base price)
For the Sahara or Sport to match the Rubicon, add:
Front 44 axle w/4.10 gearing and e-locker: $4,500
Re-gear rear axle to 4.10 and add e-locker: $2,500
High Top fenders: $750
Rock Slider: $365
Upgraded shocks: $500
Quick disconnects: $150
33" Tires: $1,200
Total upgrades: $9,815 (and still does not include the Rubicon transfer case, hood, skid system, and upgraded steering and brakes the Rubicon comes with)
Total built-up Sahara cost: $48,875 (base price + upgrades)
Total built-up Sport S cost: $45,770 (base price + upgrades)
Rubicon with built-in options: $42,460 (base price + no upgrades needed)
Difference:
-built-up Sahara cost $6,415 more than a Rubicon and the Sport S $3,310 more than a Rubicon.
-built-up Sahara/Sport will no longer have a factory 36K basic/100K powertrain Warranty after adding the upgrades.
-future re-sell/trade-in value will be approximately $4,000 less with the built-up Sahara and up to $10,00 less with the built-up Sport vs the stock Rubicon.
-Here is the real kicker: These aftermarket upgrades total approximately $9,815. For the Sahara you would have to pay $9,815 cash for the upgrades and then pay about $700/month for 5 years for your car payment. For the Sport you would have to pay $9,815 cash for the upgrades and then pay about $650/month for 5 years for your car payment. Since you don't need the upgrades with the Rubicon, if you put the $9,815 down on a Rubicon, your monthly payment would be around $588/month.
Built-up Sahara: $700/month
Built-up Sport: $650/month
Rubicon: $588/month
If your monthly car budget was $700, after 5 years you would have $0 left over if you built a Sahara, $3,000 left over if you built a Sport, and $6,720 left over if you bought the Rubicon. 5 years later $6,720 can go towards getting your Rubicon that lift kit you always wanted, larger tires, beadlock wheels, or hydro-assist steering, etc. And 0$, well....get's your built-up Sahara nothing.
All of the naysayers in the comments so far have been JK owners which is a completely different story since the JL Rubicon front axle is very different than the JK Rubicon front axle so let's stick to the topic of this video, the JL Rubicon vs the JL Sahara.
Just something to consider, in my market the Sahara is the choice for females. That really didn't matter much to me but after much thought I decided on the Rubicon for various reasons.
Me: Don't most women buy the Sahara?
Salesman: YES! Um, but, um I have one!
Anyway, too many females driving Wranglers around my area now. I'm going for the Rubicon. Furthermore, if you put them side-by-side, the Rubicon is definitely more rugged and masculine looking, nevermind the additional capabilities.
@@robk9685 Haha! The Sahara has more "bling" which might make it more "pretty" for that crowd...leather stitching on the dash, accents around the grill vents and headlights, and bigger rims.
@@darrenroos6408 I almost bought a Sahara thinking it would be fine for my needs and you can get the tan interior and tan soft top that I wanted but I'm SO glad I decided against it. It looks like a toy next to the Rubicon. I'm getting the steel bumpers not available on the Sahara too. Imagine someone bumping your Jeep Sahara in a parking lot and the bumper cracks in half like a Camry.
Lol wow... To each their own... Smh
Thanks for writing this!
Both models are good vehicles but my heart is with the Rubicon!
I went with a 2 door sport s. I got all the features I want for 41,000. I'm not an aggressive off roader. I enjoy basic light trails. I love the jeep life and being able to take off the doors and top. If I ever get into more off roading I'll upgrade my jeep or get a Rubicon. But for now this suits my lifestyle and puts a smile on my face every time I get into my jeep!
Well said. That there is the correct answer to the question of this video.
Glad to know you're enjoying your jeep. That's the whole idea!
Id like a black Sahara with the leather interior 🤤
I just ordered my first Jeep ever, on 11-30-2020 and it arrived at the dealership on 02-12-2021. I was very impressed at how fast it was built and delivered to the dealership. I ordered a 2021 JL Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon. Mine was also white but I went with the black, 3 piece hard top, metal bumpers, and a handful of other options too.
How you liking it
I am absolutely loving it! I’ve already started ordering things to put on the Jeep and cannot wait to start seeing how everything starts coming together on it.
Welcome to the fam! 👋
Which engine and manual or auto?
@@moviefan4life166, I ordered it with the 3.6 liter Pentastar V-6 with eTorque and the 8 speed automatic transmission. My heart wanted the manual but my needs required an automatic. About 2 or 3 weeks after I ordered my JLUR, Jeep announced the 392. Had I known about that and the new Extreme Recon package that just came out a few weeks ago I would have waited and then ordered one of those instead, but oh well. I can’t change what I ordered and already bought now, but after this JLUR gets paid off, I’ll order that set up then.
Wanted a rubicon but ended up with a high altitude although it wasn't cheap (55k). It drives so much nicer with the black 20 inch rims and looks amazing. I'm never going to off road so I prefer a premium drive and feel. I just like cruising with the top off
The High Altitude is a fully loaded Sahara with added 20" wheels, painted bumpers, mirrors, and door handles, and cool leather stitching for only an extra $1,000 more. For luxury I'd say you chose well!! Most Rubicon luxury owners paid that much or more just to have the Rubicon decal on the hood (since they never use the lockers and sway bar disconnect) and had to pay extra for the color top/fenders, prem sound, 8.4" display, LED lights, and safety group that are already included in your base price.
@@darrenroos6408 yes. I knew the rubicon was a waste of money for someone like me and I didn't like the way it drove at speed. High altitude is like the high end mall crawler lol The only reason my msrp was a little high (55k) is because the car came with a handful of add ons that I actually appreciate now but didn't at the moment of purchase. The soundproofing panels on the hardtop, dual top group and front camera was money well spent imo
I put one of the SunRider flip tops on in place of my fiberglass freedom tops and man, we love it! Like riding around in a full convertible that can easily be locked back in place if it starts to drizzle.
Good choice sir. I see nothing wrong with going for an Urban Jeep. At those owners are being honest with thier jeep vs someone who speeds 1000s to max out the off road tuff guy look and NEVER takes it off road.
@@jntaylor63 lmao 🤣 😂 you’re something else Jason..” 👍🏻
Thanks for this video. Many questions answered 👍🏻 I think the Rubicon looks much better, but for a city person the Sahara seems to be the better choice.
seems like the Rubi is the way to go....especially considering those seem to have the best discounts right now
love that white on in the video
My gf bought a Sahara in 18 with dana 44 rear option and we ended up putting 2" lift, 35s, sway quick disconnects, etc. Hindsight, Rubi probably would have made more sense to get the lockers but haven't had any capability issues on moderate/difficult trails.
The red top on the red jeep looks great!
Disagree. If you want a body-colored top, just buy a Hummer.
Why isn't the Rubicon already optioned with a steel Bumper, considering the outrageous price?
Money grab bro. Anyway to capitalize sadly smh
Right? The stock ones are starting to be so expensive with still basic plastic parts. For the price jump they should at least include that
True. I just looked at 1 here in Cali...62k with a plastic bumper damn it.
Rubicon : offroad
Sahara : luxury
I’m still having a little trouble figuring out which on to get. I love the Rubicon, but I don’t necessarily live where many trails are. I do go down to Tennessee ever year for vacation and then I travel to Galena IL every so often and want to do trail rides when I go through the mountains and rugged terrain , would a Sahara be able to handle that or would I just need a Rubicon?
@@ariannahawkins5945 if you are driving more in streets get the sahara. Sahara have road wheels, less shaking while you driving. Rubicon have dirt wheels it haves more shaking.
Both great vehicles
@@CJBroncoF150 But would the Sahara be able to take on dirt trails? Like up and down dirt roads in mountains.
@@ariannahawkins5945 of course it can
I consider my Sahara Unlimited the housewives/sports mom version. I love the clean lines with the matching hard top. The Rubicon has a more sporty look. I'd get one of those for son when he's old enough to drive. I can't wait to try the 1-touch roof, for convenience.
That Rubicon is beautiful, but you're definitely going to pay a premium for it.
Get the Sahara if you want heated seats and your going to replace the front and rear axles with Danatrac pro rocks or something like it because your removing everthing that make a Rubicon a Rubicon less the sway bar disconnect that is usually broke anyway.
Between Rubicon and Sahara, which of the two handles turns better to avoid rolling?
Sahara looks nice and clean. Great daily driver. To each his/her own.
I went with the Sahara over the Rubicon purely for $$$. The dealer wanted $57,000 for a Rubi. The Sahara was $38,000. I had a gladiator but a teenager in a TJ ran into the back of me and totaled it. The wrangler is more fun to drive. But the gladiator had more utility value to it.
Money wasn’t the reason I chose Sahara over Rubicon. I discovered the Sahara was more of a road ride and Rubicon was more geared (literally) for off-roading.
Save your self a lot of money and get a sport and add on what you need
In the long run it doesn't save money. I have both a built Sport and a stock Rubicon.
I'm 6ft3. The sport felt cramped.
But it’s not a rubicon sports are trash
This video is exactly what I was looking for when it came to explaining different trim levels. Liked, subscribed, looking forward to more content!
I got my JL wrangler unlimited sport in 2018 , it did not come with the fancy lockers or sway bar disconnect .. I switch the headlight & fog light bulbs to LED , put tow bar & harness , weather Matt’s plus after two crack windshield invested in gorilla glass windshield ..
Bought set of standers mopar aluminum wheels & put BS mud train km2 tires .. this vehicle has been in many skiing trips , hunting trips to mountain, etc .. I must say this is very capable & reliable vehicle & never ever let me down..
This is why on the side Badge it says .. Trail Rated 4*4 ... off-road experience is required regarding of owning the most expensive version of this type of vehicle..
Are the Jeep’s hard to get the interior warmed up in the winter or cooled down in the summer because they aren’t insulated like regular SUV’s?
not really the jeeps warm up pretty quickly
My little brothers warms up and cools off fairly quickly. Quicker than my renegade
I think mine warms up in the winter faster than it cools down in the summer.
my JL 4xe cools down icy in 100F heat (2 minutes to reasonable temps, 5 minutes to icy), and during the winter heats up equally fast. Of course, the 4xe has a different A/C system. I own an all-black JL so the sun transfers heat directly. This was a big concern of mine, as well. With the remote-start option I usually start it before tossing on my shoes and shades and by the time i open the door it's already cool inside. No regrets.
Everyone I know with a Rubicon hasn’t taken it off-road. It’s the “Executioner” skateboard for adults. (Some of you know what I’m talking about because you’re a Gen X badass like me).
DEFinitely a bad ass Gen-Xer like you! 👍🏽
My Rubicon loves to go to the mall!
I have 2011 Sahara Its filthy haha
Old man here and my rubi hits the dirt guite a bit. Sorry your friends don't, BUT when they do they won't get stuck as often. I'm also glad you and yours are such bad asses.
Thanks for the great description of both models. Very simple and to the point.
Sahara for me
I own a 2015 sahara leather, beautiful vehicle❤
Definitely Sahara for me. I have 2015 right now and I am getting my new 2021 this week! :O)
Rich
I will be ordering my Sahara 4Xe in 2-3 weeks. I wanted to go for the 6 cyl Altitude but here in Quebec the Government gives $8,000 for EV or PHEV so the 4Xe will be about $2,000 CDN cheaper that the Sahara Altitude with the Pentastar and a bunch of equipment I wanted is already coming with the 4Xe.....a no brainer.....
Quebec also received 13 Billion Dollars more from Ottawa last year than they submitted lol what a joke.
How much was it bro
@@cairovernon7418 with taxes and a bit of equipment like the heated seats and steering + security package it came up to $60K CDN (gov rebate included)
We get $7,500 tax credit from the feds here in the US. My 2022 Rubicon 4xe is ordered and came to $63k with hardtop. I won't be able to claim the tax credit until I do my 2022 taxes though.
I'm thinking of getting one. I will never reallt take it off road but I love the look of the Rubicon. Is it crazy to buy if your're just using it for everyday road use?
Yes
No, I have a 2019 Sahara unlimited and I absolutely love it 🥰, I use it as a street cruiser! I have taken it off road a couple of times, but I mostly use it for every day road use.
Not crazy to get the Rubicon if bigger tires are in your future. Even if you don't offroad it, with a larger tire the Rubicon has a stronger front axle, better brakes, a better axle gear ratio, and more clearance for bigger tires. If you are going to always keep it with the stock sized tires and never off-road, I would lean towards the Sahara.
No. I have the Rubicon 4XE and I will never take it offroad. It looks so muxh nicer than the Sahara and the tires are big.
It is the best, I have a rubicon for daily driving lifted, and 315 with rockstar rims on it. Cords performance exhaust k and n cold air intake with leather seats, it is the. Eat
Thanks for the info and great video! I went with the Rubicon. FYI, the bummer part of the one touch hard top is the back glass DOES NOT come out. Only the side glass. :-(
Any issues with noise that you’ve noticed so far?
That's why I opted out of the one touch.
I have the one touch on my 4xe Rubi. I just take the glass out by unbolting the 4 bolts holding it
The Sahara will most likely be my choice. The Wrangler has been my dream car ever since I was a kid. The main features I wanted were the My Sky roof, a V6 engine, and power windows. Not many trails here in the Chicago area, lol.
I was liking the Sahara but now I see the Rubican is a better purchase.
Great video. Wish you would have touched on the Differences between the two as far as pavement driving is concerned . Ride Ride quality between the two i.e. is the Rubicon stiff and Unruly on pavement or is the difference so slight that you’ve never even know it.
10k going to waist if u get the rubicon and change everything on it, when u can spend 10k on the Sahara and have a better vehicle than a rubicon
This isn’t accurate at all ... I have to ask what this is based on?
I have owned and built both and the Rubicon is hands down the best deal!
Have you ever priced out lockers? Getting your Jeep regeared? The D44 that comes with the rubicon? Hell even how much it costs for the high clearance fenders to fit larger tires? Now have you actually tried to do any of that work yourself? If so you would know how much time, knowledge and variety of tools that would take. 99% of jeep buyers won’t be changing out those options / if you’re building a new wrangler for 40s ... money is no object
Also the hood alone is a 1500 upgrade ...
Additionally you get off-road tires from the factory which even if your not going to use, can sell for a lot more than the stock Sahara wheels/tires
@@greygoose4x46 14jk sport paid 30 new another 10 is built better than a rubi :)
@@greygoose4x46 how is the hood an up grade lol .
@@greygoose4x46 carbon built Rock jock 44 Detroit locker.
Rear d44 torson lsd carbon cromoly shafts 4.88 gears. small 35's .
@@street_legal_go_kart7356 You built it? If you have the time and ability it’s possible ... 9/10 people don’t have both the time and/or ability. And I’m going to say that’s literally impossible to have it built by someone other than yourself for 10k.
U can literally buy a cheaper wrangler use the difference you would of spent on a rubicon and make it way better, ur buying factory parts when u can just buy better stuff urself
Rubicon for me ! With 33” tires ! Winch, solid roof !
4XE comparisons when you have access to them please. Thanks.
$7500 rebate through May! Huge savings on the hybrid
I love my 2021 fully loaded Sahara. The one touch roof is nice. Only thing the factory plastic bumper are crap. Just touch them in the cold and they crack. Less than 1000 miles and one cold Maine winter day did in the bumper.
I love American jeep wrangler sahara
Which model, is better for full-time, Jeep-life living ??
The 2024 Willy’s 4xe is the car for me it’s awesome and it’s my 5th Jeep
So the only difference is the driving capabilities for rubicon is for off road the Sahara is for daily on road drive occasionally going off road?
Sahara 4XE is best jeep trim love it so much i ordered mine stinger gray with 33 inch tires dam it looks good
What about the 392 !
Are the braking systems different on the Rubicon vs the Sahara?
Rubicon my baby all the way 🇿🇦🤗
For me? Sport S. I like the black fenders and top.
Excellent info CJ.. We’re thinking to purchase Rubicon good i saw and watch your video.. What’s the location of this dealership cuz we only have one in our area.. Thank You
I’m willing to bet that 9 out of 10 people who went with the Sahara have buyer’s remorse. For exactly the same price you get so much more with a Rubi. Not to mention the significant resale value down the road
The Rubicon is more expensive actually.
@@tml184 at the time of writing they were exactly the same. Haven’t looked at prices lately
@@thebulgarianguy8461 If you go to the Jeep site, you will see that the Rubicon is more expensive because it has upgraded and offroad features, steel bumper, bigger tires, etc. I have a Rubicon.
If I’m only planning on primarily going to the beach/dunes/trails and maybe some snow, is the Sahara the best choice? I plan on adding a lift kit and bigger tires, and other upgrades along the way. I don’t plan on rock climbing but can’t decide if a rubicon is necessary for the type of off-roading I like to do.
What is a possible help the rubi has over the Sahara is the front and rear lockers. But that only helps if you're in low 4 the lockes won't engage in 4 high. Traveling in snow might be done in faster speeds then low can accommodate. Just food for thought.
Even if you don't offroad it if you are going with a larger tire, the Rubicon is a better choice. The Rubicon has a stronger front axle, better brakes, a better axle gear ratio, and more clearance for bigger tires.
I bought my Gladiator with Rubicon package, and added a leveling kit. Keeping it basically stock. BUT if I was going to lift it 4 or 6 inches that means I would have to scrap the stock shocks and springs I would have bought a Willys edition and just add lockers and still saved money.
Could we see the difference between a Mojave gladiator vs a Willy?
This video was a little too bias for the Rubicon. Most people don't even use the offroad features that the Rubicon has and the Sahara is the much better pick as it drives better on the road than the rubicon.
Does the Willys have a slight lift? I know it has the upgraded suspension.
Yes
I have the red Jeep. Bought it last year but I’m trading it in once my 2022 Ram 1500 comes in!
Jeep should put that side step from factory on Rubicon models, more useful since it's being used on streets most of the time. The railings should be boxed and included inside the vehicle.
I thought that something was different about you...Have you lost weight? 👍 As always, love your videos! Keep up the good work!
I did! Thank you for the kind words!
Would love to see the Islander trim level.
That is one of the sexiest looking Rubicons I have seen and with the one touch roof, drooling.
I just bought a rubicon with hardtop, I would like to put a soft top . How much money should I have to do that. What’s the difference between a wrangler rubicon and a rubicon unlimited.thank you
Your best bet for keeping costs down on a soft top is to go frameless. The Suntop JLU Fastback top runs about $900.
Love my JL Rubicon.
The resale price is usually about 4,000 in difference between the two it’s not much different all wranglers have great resale value either way.
I prefer the Sahara...my 3rd mall crawler in Texas...I'm never going rock crawling to scratch up this beauty. I just want just in case
I bought a Sahara cause i truly hate the red stitching on the Rubicon even though i dig all the action the Rubicon has.
Better to buy sport base model n spend couple $ is the best option 👌 🙌 😎
@@darrenroos6408 I'm talking about me* best* lol
I just wanted to know if they was good on gas and if they were good cars.
You talk about what you can get with each model, I wish you’d stick strictly to a base Rubicon vs. a base Sahara. This way we could concentrate on the actual differences.
How does the Rubicon ride on the road compare to the Sahara?
*the off-road wheels* Boom boom boom boom boom boom boom 😂😂😂
I do like the suspension on the rubicon but the Sahara has the option for manual well,also of 2023 from my knowledge
You forgot to mention about the 4:1 transfer case you only can get in the Rubicon! For the amazing crawl ratio in 4 low!
Would thank 4.1 would be 2 low . Unless 3 speed case . 2.72 is all ready low with 4.88 and 35's.
Doesn’t make sense to get the Rubi even though I’m not planning to go off-road I really like it more than the Sahara
I have the Rubicon 4XE. NO offroading for me. I keep it clean.
If I get a Sahara and buy like buy big tires and the other good stuff! Would it be good as a Rubicon?
Ummm, depends looks maybe, but true offroad? Nope, needs a bit more to be as capable as the Rubi.
I would love to see in depth videos of the Willys trim level.
We have a 2020 Willys in Sarge Green, love it. Not basic but not all frills either. Great package.
Absolutely love my Willys! I have all the off road capabilities i need and all the creature comforts I want! A lot of people discount or overlook it!
We originally went to look at a Teal Sarah, leather and sat nav. My wife wasn’t impressed. She said to her it “doesn’t feel like a Jeep should feel”. We saw the Willys, drove it and she said “THIS is how a Jeep should be”.
@@erikstrieter4233 exactly! I can’t do the leather in my Jeep’s LOL different strokes! I feel like my Willys is an ode to my grandfather too
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I didn't hear anything about engine and transmission options, I dig the Rubicon and was wondering if they are available with 6 speed manual?
MIne is 8 speed auto
I’d like to know if theirs a lot of tire noise in the rubicon’s with the factory tires and rims?
Would love to see a Willys video! Maybe Willys versus Rubicon?
Basically a willys is a rubicon only appearance only ... no lockers, no electronic sway bar disconnect, different gearing.
@@greygoose4x46 you do get 32" mud tires and the Rubicon shocks, along with rock sliders and the heavy duty btakes in the Willis.
the JL grill is actually reminiscent of 1) CJ5/7 grill with headlight protruding into slate area and 2) YJ grill which has a more pronounced bow in the slates as does JL, TJ grill is closer to JK grill with its ever so slight bow in the slats over the JK having none .. the TJ signal lights on fender like JL and YJ rectangular headlight buckets maybe sway people left and right , have owned all but the JL and that's what I see. It interesting Rubi can now have everything Sahara does ++ , used and fairly new with similar mileage the prices seem similar where I am ...
RUBICON
Getting famous off of comments day 258, so I can live the dream, live every day like it’s your last🤙🚀🤙
Want to see a video on the new Jeep 4XE electric yeah!!!!
we will later
Not all Rubicons have a red dash, it depends on the exterior color.
My Mojito Rubicon has a Grey dash.
interesting? what year? Seems every one of the 2021 Rubi's have the red dash
@@socalnsx mine is a 2018, but all years of Mojito are Grey along with Punk'n.
@@socalnsx they may have changed that for 2021
@@socalnsx @FUHL the dash color also depends on the leather color if you upgrade to leather. If you get the tan leather you get the grey dash in the Rubicon.
@@darrenroos6408 My 18' has cloth and a grey dash
Turn off the background music. It is beyond me why RUclips content creators think it is cool playing background music over their voice. We came to hear and understand what you say. Yes, yes, yes, background music is creative license, however it license is for you not your viewers. Many viewers have hearing difficulties, thus while we intently concentrate on your voice, we must also concentrate on tuning out your background music which quickly becomes very annoying and intrusive.
Well.... 6MT for me and that immediately eliminates the Sahara. My JK Sahara was a 6MT but she's a relic now.
I like the sahara
Love it! Gas milage with lift and wheels
Awesome & my choice is Rubicon.
No mention of the Rubicon rock-trac transfer case.
Nice one rubicon. May I ask a favor from Jeep wranglers management. To please let the viewers or followers of "Jeep". That how come for decades now have had passed.
The Jeep Wrangler company never improve its two front seats to POWERED one. What I mean to powered seats adjustment.
They do improved/update its Engines/doors/tires/camera & in other parts yearly. But the two front seats in Jeep wrangler seems is likened to the tree of life in the garden of EDEN. "forbidden to be powered/improve "
Can you upgrade the motor to the track hawk 🤔
God,I can't wait to get one!😭
I am looking at the Rubicon Wrangler wi rc h the Hemi 392 Cid. Leather interior. I luv v that jeep 4 door . I have a 4 door Sport S.
Runs good
I prefer my 2022 Rubicon 4XE.
Love the detail SUSQ❤
i like my jeep compass
Got to love it when these “experts” are so vague about the off-road differences, saying generalities like, you can take the Rubicon down more difficult trails. Uh, ok, thanks Mr. Expert, that’ll help my teenage daughter make a buying decision for driving to the mall I guess. How about some specific conditions the Rubicon can handle that the Sahara can’t?
Teach your daughter how to use a search engine.
@@street_legal_go_kart7356 No, the info in this video is perfect for a teen girl to make a decision. I guess my point sailed right past ya. My bad, I should have articulated it better.
@@SpaceTravel1776 no I thought kid use search engine like around 5yo .
she's better than most adults.
@@SpaceTravel1776 You probably already know this but to answer your question for those who might not, if you off-road on rocks or terrain where one front wheel lifts off the ground, in a Sahara the wheel on the ground will stop turning since the power will transfer to the wheel with less friction. In a Rubicon the electronic swaybar disconnect will give more articulation in the front so that it is less likely that a front wheel will leave the ground. And if the obstacle or terrain is severe enough that a front or rear wheel still leave the ground with the sway bar disconnected, you have electronic axle lockers that will lock the axle and put equal power to both the wheel on the ground and the one in the air to give you the traction you need to drive out of that situation. The lockers will also help the same way if all wheels are on the ground but you are stuck because some of the wheels start spinning in sand or snow.
@@darrenroos6408 yes if they work at all unfortunately. Sway bar disconnect system goes out and no one can find parts to fix it. A guy on JL Forums has been through three Rubicon rear ends because of a sensor not sealed correctly from what l read. Also all Wranglers have electric traction control that will send power to the wheel with most traction almost like a locker. People on the JL forums say their base Sports will go places that will scare you ha.
You can buy a Sport S and build a Sahara or Rubicon.
I wanna see the 4xe series wrangler and grand Cherokee
That's why the MOAB is the best hybrid between the two. It's like the Rubicon and Sahara had a baby.
Willys vs Sahara vs rubicon
Rubicon only... It has a front AND rear locker. If you want to ACTUALLY wheel... a Rubicon smokes a Sahara
Thanks for this video. Really appreciate it. How about the diesel vs gas engine. Could you please explain in a future video or something like that? Thank you
Just bought ED. It's a massive price upgrade, but it's really what you are looking for.
Good on mpg and torque.
Enjoy!
I purchased a '21 JLU Rubicon with the ecodiesel and I love it. It doesn't get great mpg probably due to me having a heavy foot but the torque is amazing. It's untouchable off road. Definitely worth the premium I paid.