10 Things I Didn't Know About the Jeep Wrangler 4xe
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- Опубликовано: 17 фев 2022
- I’ve been interested in electric vehicle technology for a long time now, but I honestly hadn’t done a whole lot of research other than casually reading an article or watching a video here and there, but now that I own this Jeep Wrangler 4xe Plug In Electric Hybrid (PHEV) well, I’ve learned a ton and I’m going to share with you some big and little things I’ve learned about the 4xe after having owned it now for 2 month… stuff that maybe you didn’t know either.
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The pressurized gas tank is to make sure your fuel doesn’t go bad. If you have short commutes and plug in often, it’s quite possible that you don’t fill up for well over a month or more. So yeah, the button is for safety (depressurization so it doesn’t spray you when you open it) but has nothing to do with it being electric ⚡️.
Design must cover edge case where customer charges every day. Could have factory gas only for a very long time. If the gas engine never runs there is no opportunity to purge the carbon canister so venting the tank is discouraged. Also to avoid loss of volatiles needed for cold start and reduce peroxide from oxidation.
Just another thing that can break
@@Inmate533 😂 which is why I got extra warranty
@@4lb280 how will that help you on the trail
@@Inmate533 my gosh has jeep lost the plot with all this complexity and cost
We’ve had our 4xe for a year in march. So far, no issues. I will note, check with your dealer often for updates to the jeep, because they won’t tell you. My wife drives it to work and doesn’t use a drop of gas for weeks. Yes, the 4xe is heavier. But, you can notice it on the highway and the jeep feels more stable and planted. It pulls our tribe overland trailer just fine, on and off-road. As always, great video. Cheers 🍻
PS, we just received some of your coffee. AMAZING!
So great to hear! I do think it is one of the most comfortable Jeep Wranglers I've ever driven, it's feels very planted on the road! So glad you are loving the coffee!!
That's a good point. The extra weight, and suspension tuned for that weight makes for a very smooth ride compared to my previous JL. I am also of the opinion that the extra weight, centered in the 4xe, made for excellent driving characteristics during our recent midwest snowmageddon.
@@wn0x.
How is your gas mileage when towing?
@@dsonnek7781 that’s a lengthy conversation and a lot to type. I pull a 2k lb overland bad camp trailer. And it really depends on the terrain. Normal road conditions I lose about 2mpg. If I’m in the throttle on mountain fire roads or rougher off-road trails it gets worse. All depends on how much your in the throttle or if your locked in. That would be something for Brad to have a video on for more of a visual
I've had mine for a month! Love it! Used the on board battery to camp all night with a heated blanket plugged in. Used less than 5miles of EV range! Also made a bed platform for the rear, leveling out the battery pack
That's awesome how did you manage that with the blanket?
Have any post of the bed platform?
Can the engine or/and solar Panel charge the battery for overlanding ?
I've had my Sahara 4XE since April, love it. I've used it mostly for rock crawling and its been a beast with no issues. I had no idea you guys pay so much for electricity, I'm in San Diego often so I knew about gas prices. Here in Austin Texas I pay 9 cents a kwh 24 hours a day, plus with solar panels I charge the Jeep for free if the sun is out (usually is) . Gas is $2.90 a gallon. Moving to the San Diego area in the future, guess I'll have to re-think my budget. Great video, nailed it. Oh, and my Dometic frig will run at least 4 days.
Thanks for your comment John and great to hear your 4xe is performing well. Energy prices here in CA are not great for sure, but it's the price we pay to live so close to all these public lands.
My husband and I just purchased a Jeep Wrangler 4xe and are learning all we can about it. Your video is very helpful. Thank your for the charging tips and the So Cal Edison EV program. We can't believe gas prices are reaching $7/ gallon! Outrageous.
I’ve had mine 11 months so far. Last summer I could go a month on a tank. I don’t drive a lot and was getting 700 miles per tank charging nightly. Work is about 20 miles round trip. However over the Michigan winter, the engine starts after a couple of minutes and uses gas almost like a traditional vehicle. So I was getting around 350-400 per tank. Still good. Also, not mentioned is the 4xe tank is a few gallons smaller than the normal Jeep.
This is my first every Wrangler. I’m undecided if I will get a 4xe next time (currently leasing) or ICE. I do love that the start/stop tech isn’t perceivable when leaving a stop light even with a depleted battery. Overall, I do love my Jeep.
Great video! I have a 4xe and it’s great to see someone as reputable as you giving us some info I didn’t know as well as your honest impressions!
Thank you! I'm really enjoying it and looking forward to putting some more miles on it and seeing how it does.
How’s your 4xe avg mpg? I’m lookin to get one soon!
About 20mpg. But I have a lift, aftermarket steel bumpers, rock rails and 35s. And I haven’t really been able to use electric all winter because it’s been too cold.
@@brycerollins9496 oh nice! Seems like a sick setup. I’ll keep mine stock but 20mpg for a Jeep like that seems great. Congrats!
I agree, I can’t complain at all.
Great video!! From a view point as automotive engineer, you explained the PHEV and related add's perfectly. I like the 4e and look for purchase one. Looking forward to your experince On and Off Road!
Really cool review on the 4xe and I bet jeep will more then likely find ways to improve the payload capacity over time this is still new technology to jeep but it seams like a great vehicle or like you said a great vehicle to get from point a to point b daily I like this review and the fact that the honesty comes out about the pros and cons! Thank you Brad for another great video!
The concern I have about getting a 4xe is the "Jeep things". I have 2 2020 JLURs manufactured 4 months apart. They are supper fun vehicles and by far my most favorite vehicle I have owned. However, both have had quarks about them. Both have had their radios replaced. Their on board navagation sucks. The aux switches were replaced on one. The eLocker was replaced. Both steering boxes were replaced. All under warranty. The "hidden" battery that goes out every 2 years. Both my wife and I were 4x4ing out in the boonies when both vehicles at the same bump in the road went nuts. The dash board lit up. 4x4 malfunction, lockers inoperable, swaybar error. We stuck it in 2 wheel drive and was unable to continue. A buddy recommended I shut it down and open/close the door. Started it up again and no problem. Dealer said it just needed a reset and everything was okay. Love my Jeep, but there is no way I would want my Jeep any more dependant on Jeep's electrical/software team.
And the 4xe’s are known to have issues as well. Although they are likely the minority but a huge pain for those who have them.
Yep...I had those issues plus others in 2 years of owning a jlu. There's a reason jeep quality and service consistently rates poorly. I finally got sick of it and sold it...haven't missed it much.
ya that little battery is trash, Fiat + electronics = bad
That’s why I drive an 84 cj-8.
This is the first time that I watched a video about an electric vehicle where how it works was explained extremely well. This is the Jeep I’ve been thinking about buying. Thanks Marine!!
Just bought a 4xe and we love it! Thanks for the great review, very helpful in our decision process!
Great video Brad, as usual! I've had my 4xe for six months and love it!
Thank you and great to hear!
Brad! Thank you so much for explaining in a way I can understand better. This is VERY interesting for an overland situation. Yes, extra weight with the battery but… now the though of a couple of extra things I a may not need like you said about the Jackery. I am so glad you are sharing real world content on this as this was a Jeep model I was always curious about but never could pull the trigger on for myself. The more & more I look at it, & honestly the more content you make on it, the more I am thinking it is a great solution for my wife & I. It may still be a year or two yet before we can fit that into our budget but man, will I keep an eye on the content you keep making with this vehicle. Can’t wait to see you do more off road stuff with Marco & the crew & give us some more real life feed back on it. Thank you, thank you, thank you sir!
Thank you for the break down on your energy bill. I always ask people I know who have EV's and PHEV's, but it is a subject they rather like to avoid discussing. Now that I know how inexpensive it really is, my next purchase will most likely be a Grand Cherokee 4Xe Trailhawk or Summit Reserve.
Wow very excited! We got our 4xe in May with a 2” MOPAR lift. One of the first one off the line in North Texas. We are very happy with it. Even got the same Level 2 charger! Great video!
Great video! Incredible content and answered a ton of questions I had about the 4XE. Thanks again
Great video. Keep 4xE content coming, I’m super interested!
You made a comment about payload capacity. Help us understand (maybe in a future video) how getting close to that is a bad thing. Does that mean extra wear and tear? Perhaps the components aren’t sturdy enough to support it? Or is it just a general guideline that no one bothers listening to because it really doesn’t matter…
You answered every question I had. Thank you for the great content 🤟🏼
Great video. One thing about putting down the back seats is that you can lift up the headrest to slot in between the bottom seat and the battery allowing the folded seat to just be a little more flat (but unfortunately the 8 in ledge is still there. Good incentive to get a drawer system 😀
Been seeing a lot more of these on the road - great video, Brad!
Super interested in the 4xe stuff, really enjoying this 4xe content thanks for making these videos.
Thanks for the very informative video Brad, I'm just starting to do research on the 4XE and this helped a lot.
I own one, almost a year. It is VERY good overall .. fit and finish is excellent. 30+ mpg overall. Super power and fun to play with base Teslas .. Reliability has been super .. it’s absolutely the best wrangler in terms of overall value. Mine is the high country .. monotone paint and black 20’s.
Wow…a lot to consider and know before taking the plunge BUT, so interesting. Thanks for sharing all of this information! It has me thinking about things more thoroughly. 🥾🥾😎
Great video! I learned a lot. Just got my Rubicon 2 days ago and Im trying to learn more about it. Not going to do serious rock crawling but Im looking forward to some dunes and back country mountain roads.
Had mine for a month and it’s a high altitude. Can’t explain how awesome the Jeep is. I got 1600km in my first tank
Such a great review! I was excited when I saw that you bought this vehicle, and expecting to get mine this year… but it looks like the technology needs to be improved to actually get this one for a daily drive or even for the overlanding. Thanks for this video
Excellent video & explanation of the hybrid system.
Finally someone who actually talks about the energy cost of an electric vehicle and what it cost to install the charger very informative and i think it’s absolutely crazy they haven’t come out with a standard plug it’s like going to a gas station and you can’t get gas cause that nozzle is for fords only and you have a jeep
There is a standard connector plug. J1772 for Level 1/2 charging, and CCS for DC fast charging.
Tons of interesting info. Most interesting for me the extra power for powering fridge and other accessories. Admittingly I was no fan of the hybrid concept until I heard that. But it makes perfect sense. Also I now recall the hybrid trucks that once GM offered used to be very popular with contractors for the somewhat similar reasons as well.
I believe the delay in the fuel door release to release pressure is to keep air out of the fuel tank in order to keep the gasoline from going bad over time. Many PHEV drivers go months without putting fresh gas in their tanks. At least that's the information provided with my Honda Clarity PHEV.
As usual, excellent video Brad. Thank you for sharing!!!!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Great review! I have an order coming in 2 months . I can’t wait!!
The nice thing about the 4xe rear seats is that you can store items in the passenger foot well when the seat is folded down, which is not the case with the standard JL. Pro tip :)... Your ham/gmrs radio mounts quite nicely to the bottom of the drivers side passenger seat. Also, if your missing the cup holders, this is easy to add back by removing the "cup holder delete" organizer and replacing it with the standard JL passenger console.
Helpful video, Brad! I’m excitedly awaiting the hybrid Gladiator. My gladiator has a lot more space and payload to work with than a wrangler, so theoretically, it could be even better. I’d love the better mpg for sure!
I went from 2019 rubicon to 4XE for about 8 months. Love it. I wish you would have covered the difference in fuel economy from standard v6 rubicon to 4XE. That was the most shocking as I was only getting 15.5 city / 18.0 hwy on my 2019.
What's your mpg been like in the 4×e? I'm patiently waiting for the 4×e Gladiator.
@@jlv3x Every body says they're patiently waiting, but I don't want to wait years before I can go Overlanding and do stuff. I am assuming people that say this already have some all terrain vehicle.
@@fiftyshadesofurban I have a 2012 Jeep and waiting to up grade. Love the Gladiator, the Wrangler styling with more cargo room but I want a PHEV.
@@jlv3x that will be available end of 2023
@@mattbrew11 I know but I was hoping they would have at least one 4×e Gladiator ready for Easter Jeep Safari this year.
Lovely video. Really enjoy your honest laid back coverage of a vehicle I would definitely buy if it comes to our part of the world.
Thank you for the explanation on the different types of electric vehicles (plug-ins vs. electric vs. hybrid)
Thank you so much for this video. I’m definitely saving this so I can look back to get further information for the 4xe I’m getting ready to get!!!
Great information brother!! I'm loving my 4xninetyeight !!
Loved the video. My wife and I are looking forward to the arrival of our plug-in Wrangler in April!
Great info! I’ve had my 4xe for a month. Put on a Smittybilt XRC front bumper and Warn winch. The 4xe replaced my 2dr JL which I towed behind my RV. I’m a little concerned about the weight and the additional weight of the bumper and winch. On a quick trial run, it towed just fine. On the road it drives great. Looking forward to more videos on the 4xe.
Are the 4XE towable for RVer's?
Super helpful video! Thank you so much for this!
2 years and I just found out this jeep existed. Way to go jeep. You're amazing at keeping secrets!
Awesome video Brad. I learned a lot.
Love my 4xe! Your videos are great. Just an FYI, the rear seats can lay flat. The headrest slides in between the rails of the seat cushion.
Great video for explaining the pros and cons of a hybrid and electric vehicles.
Just in time! Arrived, set up camp, got your vid to watch…..all is right in my world right now. Thanks for all your great content Brad!
Right on! Have fun camping wherever you may be!
@@TrailRecon Dubai, making most of the last of the winter!
Brad it was cool when you hooked up with the boys from Canada both Sean and the guys from Epic do great work up in Canada.. I look forward to you and Marco working your way up to visit Sean before your Alaskan trip... It would be a great training run and big time video for both channels... Love your videos as always brother..... The Banks family
Thanks Brad; excellent report!
We just picked up a 2021 4xE Sahara, and man it's wicked. Super cool jeep in general.
Solid video with a ton of info and tips.
Excellent video, thanks!
Very informative video, definitely thumbs up
Great explanation of the vehicle. I’ve watch a few reviews of this wrangler and this is one of the best.
I wish the electric range would be a bit better considering the average commute is about 30 miles.
Very helpful. I am considering alternative vehicles for a work vehicle with the goal being to purchase one in the next year and a half to two years... The 4xe looks cool but the rear storage and payload are valid concerns that I haven't seen discussed on other reviews.
Thanks for a great informative video!
Excellent video Brad, thank you. Ordered my wife's back in October and took delivery 3 weeks ago. Excellent so far. PS for DIY'ers, level two charging can be a bit more affordable. My cost was roughly $720. This included the Grizzly E (Nema 650), hubbell 650 recepticle, square D QO 50A breaker (GFCI), J-box with mudd ring, 6' of AWG #6, $60 permit fee from my county.
Congrats on the new Jeep!
@@TrailRecon thank you
First proper review of 4xE so far. Thank you
Glad you enjoyed it!
This video was so informative and I actrully understood everything! TY
Glad it was helpful!
Greatly appreciate the video overview thank you.
I have a 2016 Rubicon Hard Rock Unlimited. I have really been eying the Rubicon 4Xe Unlimited but I think you have Truly convinced me! Great Video 👍🏻
my 2018 2.0 I4 jeep rubicon also utilizes that DC to DC charger off a 48V mild hybrid pack. it's kinda weird... but it's the only vehicle where the stop/start doesn't bother me cause it's not cranking the actual cold start starter every time. It uses that huge BSG on the engine to turn it over on hot start.
Thanks for the great video!!
Brad, I’m so glad you posted this video! We’re in Charlotte, NC and the 4xe is perfect for us. City by the day, and weekend fun. You nailed it! But I really want to get your opinions on overlanding it. I see some pros and definitely some cons, but I think it will be interesting trying to find some unique ways to set it up. I’m interested in what you end up doing, so keep those videos coming. And don’t go all Ford on us now… 😂
Great video! I just bought one and I love it!! ✌️
That was an awesome review!!!!
Being a Jeep owner and a Tesla owner this is a great explanation video!
Love this 4XE content!! Great info on the after-hours electricity rate. Hopefully, my state has something simliar. I bought one a couple weeks ago and I LOVE IT! Thanks for the videos! Can't wait to see those 4XE Mods!!
Was your Jeep at your local dealer ? Or did you order it ?
@@jeepgrl4888 local dealer
I live in south texas can’t seem to find one. Would love to trade mine in for electric due to insane fuel prices . Sky 1 touch would be the cherry on top
@@jeepgrl4888 Check out Lithia Jeep in Santa Fe, New Mexico. I was blown away with how much inventory they had! Definitely the largest Jeep inventory in this State.
@@jayabq11 Awsome thx you
Great video thanks for your honesty, 🙏
I'd love to see more 4xe content! I have a Rubicon 4xe on order and I need something to tide me over while I wait :)
Wow, I've learned so much from this video! I really had no idea what Jeep's plug in hybrid really meant until now, so thank you!
I totally agree that there needs to be a standard for EV plugs, especially as our state (CA) and the country invests more heavily in charging infrastructure. I am even more excited for the next generation of the 4xE for the possibility of better efficiency. As pretty much everyone on this channel knows, the biggest negative of owning a Jeep is paying at the pump, and I would like to see an effective 40+ mpg Hybrid or EV down the road, especially as gas prices are expected to continue to rise.
tesla charges with a different voltage
@@johnmills4310 thanks, didnt know that. All i'm saying is these companies should standardize their charging rather than having the apple charger vs micro usb vs usc-c fight all over again. Having a universal charging system would pave the road for future EV infrastructure which would benefit all EV companies. Very few people are actually against EVs, they just don't see them as practical because you cannot take them out of major cities. Lets not have a company that cant even line up their quarter panels slow us down from having chargers everywhere.
Very informative and usefull review ... thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
I'm interested to see how they do a hybrid JT. Seems they should have more space to put the battery in the longer frame, maybe even a bigger battery.
That is the one thing I'm curious about as well
I'm checking for info on the hybrid JT every day, I can't wait until they reveal it. I was thinking maybe that's why they're saying it will be a 2024 model, so they can configure a bigger battery in it.
I wish it wasn't going to take so long. :/
I'm guessing for now it will be the same as the JL but they do have a big space opposite the fuel tank where people are putting aux tanks. That would be a good location. But more battery equals more weight, and less payload, which can be important for those of us using it as a truck or for long camping trips.
They are going to do a hybrid hurricane engine. Gladiator will get that one not this 2L version
11:35 actually, from what you said, charging during the day cost exactly 5 dollars for the 17 kW battery to take you 24 miles. That’s right on the cusp of not being efficient at all. And I don’t believe that it is more efficient charging with the updated plug, it is just faster, not more efficient.
Glad you brought up the cost to charge etc. So at normal CA gas prices ( $3.50 - $4.00 gallon ), and paying normal price for electric ( .30 / kw ) gas would be cheaper. Even at a discount from the utility company the difference is pretty much negligible. And how much extra does someone pay for the " electric " capability over a equivalent gas only model ? The price increase would pay for a lot of gas. Turns out you can't get somethin for nothin after all. Hopefully I don't sound like I'm being negative, just trying to acknowledge a reality check.
I would also like to add when the fed/state governments realize they are loosing gas tax revenue they will eventually start taxing electricity used on road. At which then it would be more expensive. California gas tax .51 fed .18 per gallon not to mention all the other fees added in.
Brad…the reason I believe the hybrid Jeep was the best selling electric vehicle (hybrid) was due to the tax rebate….could you talk more about it and how it’s used to offset ones tax liability in future vids….thanks.
The jeep dealer I went to, added that $7500 as a dealer markup. The Rubicon 4xe was 70k out the door.
@@CaptVic-xg2vc that's CRAZY. I have a pretty good hook up, ordered my wife's Rubicon. As built 65K, paid 58K. If anyone wants to order one, let me know...between 8-9% under msrp
@Bill Waterhouse I just went back to look and make sure I was correct. It was actually $78,733 out the door. I have a picture of the work up because I was in such shock. They had a nice sting ray grey 4xe and i really wanted it. I'll wait for the market to come back down.
@@CaptVic-xg2vc 😳 well anyone who wants to pay under sticker...let me know
@@billwaterhouse5894 I am looking to get a 4xe for my wife. How I would I get in touch with your contact?
The best review of the 4xe, thanks
Had the rubiconX 4xE for a year, and I've opened the fuel door once. Yes, you read that correctly, ONCE.
1300 miles, one 14 gal fill.
Thanks for the info! Love the Def Leppard and Van Halen album covers!
Nice review. Subscribed.
Great review even in 2024. Thanks for the info regarding the power company. It applied to NY, too. I didn’t realize that. And you’re spot on with who it is for. Most of my driving is under 20 miles. I put a level 2 in and use pure electric 98% of the time. So there that, and it is a lot of fun to drive with an open rooftop. Thanks!
I have a Jeep Gladiator, and love it. But was very curious on the Jeep brand dipping it’s toes in the electronic market. You explained it very well, and it’s something we may look into seriously for our next Jeep.
Hi Brad, your "as an overlander" comment says it all to me. Your 4Xe is not long for the TrailRecon channel.
I'm trying to be optimistic, but I think there are things to considers, especially the fuel tank size which is the smallest in the Wrangler lineup.
@@TrailRecon There is a definite place for 4xe in the day trip off-roader world; however, the lack of a flat floor up to the front seats is a deal-breaker for me. Ever sense see the Goose Gear flooring on TrailRecon I'm hooked on the convenience and extra storage they offer. I don't think Goose Gear would be a meaningful option in the 4xe.
Another great video!!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Very well done. Thanks!
Thanks for the video Brad! I have a JLUR 3.6 right now that's about to be paid off. Thinking about buying the 4xe next or waiting for the fully electric to come out. 🤔
wow that was some good information, didn't know that model beat out the Toyota Prius. thank you again for the info!!,..your just plain awesome!!,..ooyah fellow shipmate!!
I have been looking at one myself ....Great Information keep it up ! ....Lots to know before investing 60 K into the 4 x E but so far seem well worth the learning curve.
With a little ingenuity l, I think you could make a lightweight removable bed system w some 80/20 aluminum that can level out that raised backseat situation. Love this Jeep. I want one. Thanks for the reviews you do on these. Look forward to future ones👍
From what I understand the drive battery operates as a maintainer for deep cycle battery while the vehicle is shut down so you should be able to run your domestic cooler as long as you want. This is what I’m TALKIN BOUT!! I love this vehicle so much!
Ok this is the video I was looking for to explain this system, thanks
Great video thank you!
Semmppperrr ffiiiii!!!!!! I was looking into getting a similar jeep as well. Thank you for the review brother from one marine to another really helpful in making a choice.
Oorah! But I wasn't a Marine...I was a Navy Corpsman who served with them. Semper Fi!
greattttt video learned alot! thanks!
really neat to see the PHEV and how much it can do!
Thank you for your thorough review. I thought about this vehicle because I do a lot of off-road field work that requires a higher lift and a shorter turning diameter, but that work usually happens within a 10 mile radius of where I'm usually stationed during each trip. I might only drive 20-40 miles a day (usually at a slow pace) so I could be using a lot less fuel in a vehicle with this kind of combination. I currently drive a suburban, and I use lot of fuel use just driving around checking equipment. My interest is cutting down on gallons used a day. I need a shorter off-road vehicle that is easier to manage in terms of space, and can handle turning around on off road terrain where the turning diameter is not very generous.
The downside to having this Jeep is I drive on the freeway a lot, but when I get to a place (usually for 2 weeks at a time) I'm back to that field work driving routine. My hope is that I will cut down on gas using the plug in charging coupled with the regenerative brake system. I do a little 'rock climbing' but that activity takes place a few times in the summer when I'm going to the headwater of some river. My suburban threatened to kill me last time I put it through a mild version of that. I might have done more of that kind of driving if I had a better vehicle for it, but it's going to be occasional enough that I'm not terribly worried about the weight of this car. So far, apart from this vehicle, I'm having difficulty finding another hybrid SUV that meets my needs, but my deadline is now because my current SUV is struggling. Hopefully this Jeep will be a good fit.
Great video! You should do a fuel economy test with the battery 100% dead. I've heard a lot of people say the "hybrid only" fuel economy on the 4xe is worse than a regular gas wrangler due to the extra weight.
This video is perfect for me. I’ve been intrigued as you about the wrangler 4xe. I have a gladiator that I love but can’t wait to trade in for a new gladiator 4xe.
Very interesting thank you !