Enjoying this series. Hoping to do something similar with a new van and new Patrol too. That tow ball weight was one issue that was concerning me but you guys have it sorted. Thanks for being the pioneers for us on that.
No problem, we had no-one to watch this type of series with so figured we'd get on top of it for the rest of us Patrol lovers/builders. You can do it, look forward to catching you on the road one day mate. 🤙🏼
Very impressive and informative info given there,as I’m in Cairns for a job opportunity today,and one of the blokes mentioned to me after he saw my rig,and asked me if I had a GVM Upgrade,I didn’t know what the hell he was talking about lol,but after watching this episode tonight,now I know, exactly what he was on about,thank you for sharing your amazing woman,and Chris is one lucky guy
I love the way you know about all that stuff Sian (hope I spelt your name properly 🤔) sometimes my hubby starts talking about all that stuff and I don’t get anything 😣 very good , girl power!
The only reason I looked into this in such detail is because I wasn’t taken seriously as a chick asking questions in the first place. I got annoyed and looked for my own answers lol 😂 I hope this inspires other women to learn weights and for men to ‘take us seriously’ when we say we know what we mean hehe 😉💁🏼♀️🌸
Great work guys. The authorities are a pain in the butt regardless of which state you are in and somehow they word stuff that contradicts items. You have done it the right and the easy way. Really wish the industry would get cleaned up as stop companies advertising ridiculous prices for things that you don't need or really are not going the help that much.
Thanks Adrian. Our goal was to simply help some other people to get a similar upgrade at a cheap price in Queensland. As you say, so many brands charge way too much money for this stuff especially if you only need 100-200kg. There is no continuity across the states with GVM or GCM requirements, it’s a shame.
Hello Big OZ Explorers,I finally had my GVM Upgrade done by ARB today at Townsville,total paided $595,with a all the paper work and compliance plate fitted as well ,as the vehicle already had the rear Heavy Duty OLD Man Emu Suspension fitted when I purchased the Vehicle,last year but recently I had the Warn Winch fitted and a OLD Man Emu 2 inch lift kit for the front,a few weeks ago,so now I have the Certificate of Modification & the OME GVM Upgrade sticker in the the front page of the Manual,and next step is to complete a change of details form at the registration dept,now I have a peace of mind,Thanks guys for sharing and getting the message out,as most people that I have seen on the road are definitely well overweight,as most have not done the GVM Upgrade when towing their Caravan or Camper Trailer.
Great information love the passion you guys have on the Y62, by increasing the GVM by 180 then you will have to take this off the weight of the caravan to keep it under the GCM? If a remember by one of your previous vids you were over the limit in the van and you had to remove items so this could be interesting to see how you go with the next weigh in.
Hey Robert, back in the day when we were removing items from the caravan so that we wouldn’t be overweight, this was so we could be under our 6t GCM on the Ranger. We now have 7t and the GCM should not be a problem 😁 The caravan was the one part of our setup that was totally within its weight requirements and always has been 😂😂 the GVM increase allows us to move weight around a bit and not be restricted in the car that’s all ☺️ Thanks for watching and following closely Robert 🥰
Like someone mentioned, the reason right or wrong u require a rear bar or long range tank is due to the GVM is with 200kg and above rear springs. Therefore if u are not carrying the weight to load the springs then with independent suspension it throws out the alignment and ride of the car. In Vic with the full GVM upgrade we gain an extra 585kg so worth it.i like what u did though smart and cheap to get a little extra which helps stay legal these days
And in most cases when it’s achievable (especially if you can gain 500+kg!) it’s great!! In QLD, unfortunately it’s not achievable and not so great 😭 this little mod helped us and if someone else only needs 150ks or there about, this is an excellent and affordable alternative. Thanks for watching Brad 😁
Great little vid and great information. I'll be giving my local engineer a call next week. The reason Ontrack require a rear wheel carrier or LRT is due to the required rating of the ring springs for the 4T upgrade and the IRS rear end. If the weight isn't in the back then the tyres will scrub out. I didn't go with that option for the very reason you didn't. I want the extra GVM for the ball weight not a LRT or rear bar.
It’s a shame they can’t get around the QLD law so what they’re doing can help us out too but with only a 10% gain of which half you loose, it’s unfortunate ☹️ we totally would have gone down that track if we could raise it over 4t too, oh well! If the rules ever change maybe we will 😏
Seen the comments on your bumper real tough, and the First week as well that had to have hurt but on the bright side with the savings on the gvm... It's enough for that supercharger.
At least we’re going to be able to take it off and get a front bar, not so bad when you know the panel is being removed in a couple of months! Supercharger is still a maybe... need to finish bar work and check weights first thennnn... maybe 😏
Excellent idea. If we get our car done, does Lindsey need to see our car or can he issue the blue plate? We just picked up our car last Saturday. We’re in Gladstone CQ.
Great video. I want to do the same on a new triton. The total axel weights are 200kg more than the gvm. I would be happy with a extra 100kg. I can't raise the car due to tight access in the garage. And the peddlers upgrade lifts the car 40mm. I am trying to find someone who can do what you had done in Adelaide
Thanks guys. I was wondering how you were going to do it. Important information about not needing to spend thousands for essentially another 20kg over what you have now. Great videos!
The added weight for the GVM would also be about adding weight to keep the balance, because without it, it'll be way to hard in the rear, it was the same when we did our Hilux, the load needs to be constant otherwise the drivability of the car would be terrible. We have also done the GVM upgrade to our S5Y62, installed by said company and it has given us a total 4085kg so 585kg increase, I'm fully aware that isn't currently possible in QLD. Whilst you didn't mention said company, everyone will know who you're talking about.🤔
Hilix would 100% need extra weight in the rear being a dual cab, if you’ve ever picked up a tub on the back of a dual cab they weigh nothing! Chris and I were able to move our one alone with no help when we had the Ranger :)
great work guys love the research you do, not just whack it together and hope for the best. have you guys considered a dash camera, great for protecting the vehicle when parked and also for insurance when driving, best thing I have done on my Hilux already paid for itself. keep up the great work love watching your journey.
Thanks James so nice to hear 🥰🙌🏻 We just installed a dash cam about a week ago. We went to buy one before the Cape trip but the one we wanted was sold out at the time 🤦🏼♀️ all running now and hard wired in with front and rear cameras 👌🏻😁 they really are the best thing to have hey 🙌🏻
Hey guys, love your channel and after watching this build and test driving one of these weapons, I'm sold!! When I mentioned the gvm to the salesman he said they are roughly $8k lol, do you know of any guys that do this in Brisbane/Gold coast? Cheers
Yes if you replace all the parts for a standard upgrade it can be 5-10K!! What we did is based on manufacturer specs and you need an engineer. Most sales reps won't be aware of what's involved for this.
Your GCM cannot change under QLD rules. Our GCM is still 7t so technically if our car was to weigh 3.68t exactly, the caravan can only weight up to a max of 3.32t (even though it’s ATM is 3.5t).
We didn't as we expected people to have a whinge about where/how it was mounted 🤦🏼♀️ Sometimes easier to leave things certain footage out from a comment perspective lol.... I can assure you it is there and legit though 😂
@@danielmcgregor7449 Yep Danial what state are you in . Jump on the Y62 Face Book page and the forums and ask there , I know of others that have done the axle group upgrade on S4 - Y62's . David Dash did his STL in SA but it had the conventional suspension . I have made inquiries here in Vic , no go so far but I will look in to it more when this Covid crap eases .
@@BigOzExplorers just started the gcm upgrade to our 2019 mazda bt50 IE ford ranger same same , hard to find good info at times , if you make it to Port Hedland ,WA we will catch up ,cheers .
@@terryburnham8150 glad we could help, that’s awesome. We’ll be over your way mid next year, up in Darwin at the moment. Send us a message through socials and I’m sure we can arrange something closer to the time 🤙🏻 cheers mate
We had a couple of people looking into it in VIC because of this episode and they were successful. Don’t know the exact price for them but the concept/idea was the same. 😁🤘🏻
I could tell you I’m sorry this was some time ago and we get a lot of messages!! I suggest contacting some engineers and if they do no try the next one and so on... we had to do similar here ☺️
He’s located at Townsville but comes to Cairns about every 2 weeks. He does any car/caravan 😁 we talked to him about upgrading the caravan as well because it’s a bloody good chassis but then we’d have to move to the DO45 hitch which we weren’t keen for! 😂
I know right, hit and run in a car park, was pretty pissed 🤬front bar goes on in a few weeks so it’ll be gone thank gosh! Thanks so much for the feedback too, means a lot 🥰 We just share our lives and try help people out where we can if there is benefit to others, that’ll never change 🤟🏻😁
From my research and being a Landcrusier 200 owner almost every lc200 towing a van with a couple of modest accessories are illegal!! 😬. Lc200 has 610kgs to play with in its GCM, I have added bull bar = 100kg, roof rack 50kg, all terrain tyres, 40kg, fuel, 120 kg, family of 5 320kg, ball weight , 250 kg . 260 kg over!! 🙄 not to mention the fridge and some gear in the back, it’s crazy how many illegal Landcrusier and probably patrols are out there, nice vid guys, I’ll look into something similar with my car now, every kilo counts!!
Yes it is crazy how may illegal ones there are and just how many owners still have no idea they are illegal! Hope you can get something similar for yours 🤞🏻🤞🏻
I think you'll find with the long range or rear bar is that when they done the gvm upgrade the vehicle used would have had these fitted therefore for a vehicle to qualify they'd have to have the same modifications as vehicles tested. It would interesting to see if you could same mods in vic and get it passed for extra 180kgs
Yes you may be right. There would have been much time and effort with engineers to get the 10%, it’s a shame QLD is so difficult! If you can get it to pass in VIC let us know, I hope every one can seeing Nissan has OK’ed these weights on their axles 🙌🏻😁
pretty sure they want you to add a rear bar or tank because stock car is too light for the gvm upgrade, with the 400kg constant springs the wheel alignment in the rear can't be set without the extra weight. since you're car is already has added weight I think the bar or tank was not required.
To be honest I wouldn’t be sure without looking at the original manufacturers brochures. You’ll need to figure out what the axle capacities are on your particular model. If the axle capacities combined are higher than the allowed GVM, there’s no reason you shouldn’t be able to do this too 🤙🏻
Just to clarify, did this only work because you upgraded rear springs, installed air bags and pulled out 3rd row (reclassification as a goods carrying vehicle)? Could you drive a S5 Y62 off the showroom floor to this bloke and get the GVM upgrade for $500?
This will depend on the engineer you see I think. The independent axles are rated to take the weight by the manufacturer so technically the setup off the showroom floor is sufficient but engineers can all be slightly different with different expectations to give you the GVM upgrade. Having the springs/airbags etc of course will help as well and to be honest I highly recommend them especially if towing a heavy caravan or load. I’d get a couple of quotes locally and tell them what you know and see how you go ☺️ thanks for tuning in guys 🤙🏻
I haven’t heard 4495kg as yet, that’s almost a chop figure! In QLD though, the max you can have is 10% increase, QLD come in at a lousy 3850kg max 🤦🏼♀️
@@astra686 I haven’t looked into what you can have on a Patrol preregistration but I would assume more as it’s what’s called a ‘second stage manufacturer’ upgrade. You’d probably need the whole kit though to have it approved.
@@BigOzExplorers As suspected,because there is a massive environmental change as we cross those borders,buggered if I can see it though,must be blind.Thanks for your feedback and well done
Haha yes. Going to do a Gvm on my mux with doc Tim from Brisbane. He recon it will get me an extra 275kg for $600. And no changes has to be done to the car! Winning! Picking up a caravan around August hopefully. 👌
I would strongly suggest you do a weigh in before you add the Bar , Winch , Roofrack or anything else , I doubt that a upgrade of 180kg will be enough . I know you said you did all the math before you bought the 62 , so I don't know how you thought you could add all that gear and still been legal , especially with a ball weight of 315kg like you said in the first video . A 62 tares at 2715 ,add 130lts of fuel 100kg then people 150-200kg you are at 3T already , add the 315 ball , you have 180-190kg left if you are lucky . I have the Fourby Fitouts unit , Rhino Bar , winch , under body plates , no Roof Rack , no bigger tyres and only 180 on the ball and we still struggle to stay under GVM . I have looked in to the axle group 180kg upgrade here in Vic before Covid got in the way , did the brake tests , for anyone interested we did several stops from 60 kph and 100 kpk . Stopping from 97.9 kph = 0.99G . time was 3.55 seconds , and 43.4 mts to come to a complete stop . We have just returned from a trip to the Murray River via the High Country we were 4.7T on the bridge but the Patrol was bang on 3.5 including the 180 ball . So its a really good idea to weigh before you add any more stuff not after .
Thanks for your concern, we appreciate it! We are weeks ahead of what you see on RUclips and I can already tell you we are good 😉 stay tuned to hear more as our episodes roll out! 😁
@@BigOzExplorers that's good I do hope it works out for you . Like I have said before in doing my research before buying a 62 after looking up the specs , I even weighed the dealers S3 , that confirmed Nissans specs were pretty much spot on , so I knew you would never get away without a upgrade . I talked to you know who down here in Vic about their GVM upgrade , it wasn't available when I bought my S4 they were still waiting on approval but I didn't like the idea of adding weight , just to get a big upgrade , I wasn't going to need anyway , I especially didn't think much of just lifting the front with a spacer , it seems that has caused a few issues . I did have HD Air Bags in the back but removed them when I fitted the Lovells springs , my Patrol now sits 10mm above std unloaded height when loaded inc ball weight , its always loaded ready to go except for ball weight . Front is 15mm down on std with the Bar and winch . I will be waiting to see any updates .
If you look into your figures it not a bad thing to know about, simply to increase road safety buttttt it would be nice if the rules here were a little more relaxed! 😅
For those considering GVM/GCM upgrades considering doing things pre-registeration so that it comes Federally compliant and not just state based. Also if you need GVM/GCM best to go down the dual cab ute path - i have a Ranger with pre-rego upgrafes taking my gvm from 3.2T to 3.5T and GCM from 6T to 7.1T.
Some people don’t know they need a GVM increase until it’s registered or buy second hand and can’t get around this. We actually started with a Ranger and sold it for the Patrol because it’s engine capacity and GCM just wasn’t sufficient for our van etc... good car for a much smaller setup than ours that’s all! :) Under QLD rules you also can’t increase your GCM ☹️
Hi guys, just on your upgrade. It is all a lot of crp. Your up grade should of been done before u purchases vehicle, meaning before it was registered. Don’t listen to anyone. I have a Kakadu and when it comes down to legal stuff eg insurances ! U are not covered. It is a grey area. These engineers can say what they want, to take your money. But please , go on internet and read up or go in the road services ,whatever u call in qld. Every state is different, but please be careful. It is only a gvm upgrade, that does not , if some thing was to happen u are NOT covered with any insurance. Heads up I have someone who is ceo of a big insurance. Your axel might say it can take so much, but again , legally the car will not be able to handle it. All ,y vehicles have been brand new, only I backed off the Nissan which I loved, loved only due to my health I ended up with a near new Kakadu, and wanted to do the same .. just watch the wording they use. I hope I haven’t confused u, as I have confused myself. Read up on it.
I'm looking to have this done to my vehicle and based on your comments I just rang my insurer (RACQ) to ask about the implications for insurance. They knew all about GVM upgrades for towing and said as long as everything was done by an approved engineer, the vehicle had the blue modification plate and they were informed it so it could be noted on the insurance document then they were happy.
@@michaelstokes2685 that’s cool. Was Only saying ,as I don’t like people getting ripped off, told the wrong thing and most insurances are ok to take our money but when it’s time for a claim, we’ll it’s a different story. So , I hope the insurances actually have all this in black and white for all us caravan people. Cheers guys
I love the way you know about all that stuff Sian (hope I spelt your name properly 🤔) sometimes my hubby starts talking about all that stuff and I don’t get anything 😣 very good , girl power!
Enjoying this series. Hoping to do something similar with a new van and new Patrol too. That tow ball weight was one issue that was concerning me but you guys have it sorted. Thanks for being the pioneers for us on that.
No problem, we had no-one to watch this type of series with so figured we'd get on top of it for the rest of us Patrol lovers/builders. You can do it, look forward to catching you on the road one day mate. 🤙🏼
Lindsey is a legend. Been around a long time and a real car guy so he understands.
Very impressive and informative info given there,as I’m in Cairns for a job opportunity today,and one of the blokes mentioned to me after he saw my rig,and asked me if I had a GVM Upgrade,I didn’t know what the hell he was talking about lol,but after watching this episode tonight,now I know, exactly what he was on about,thank you for sharing your amazing woman,and Chris is one lucky guy
That’s awesome Tommy! So glad I was able to help you understand what a GVM was and how an upgrade can affect your car! 😁 Hope you get that job! 🤞🏻☺️
I love the way you know about all that stuff Sian (hope I spelt your name properly 🤔) sometimes my hubby starts talking about all that stuff and I don’t get anything 😣 very good , girl power!
The only reason I looked into this in such detail is because I wasn’t taken seriously as a chick asking questions in the first place. I got annoyed and looked for my own answers lol 😂 I hope this inspires other women to learn weights and for men to ‘take us seriously’ when we say we know what we mean hehe 😉💁🏼♀️🌸
@@BigOzExplorers you definitely inspire me!
Great work guys. The authorities are a pain in the butt regardless of which state you are in and somehow they word stuff that contradicts items. You have done it the right and the easy way. Really wish the industry would get cleaned up as stop companies advertising ridiculous prices for things that you don't need or really are not going the help that much.
Thanks Adrian. Our goal was to simply help some other people to get a similar upgrade at a cheap price in Queensland. As you say, so many brands charge way too much money for this stuff especially if you only need 100-200kg. There is no continuity across the states with GVM or GCM requirements, it’s a shame.
Hello Big OZ Explorers,I finally had my GVM Upgrade done by ARB today at Townsville,total paided $595,with a all the paper work and compliance plate fitted as well ,as the vehicle already had the rear Heavy Duty OLD Man Emu Suspension fitted when I purchased the Vehicle,last year but recently I had the Warn Winch fitted and a OLD Man Emu 2 inch lift kit for the front,a few weeks ago,so now I have the Certificate of Modification & the OME GVM Upgrade sticker in the the front page of the Manual,and next step is to complete a change of details form at the registration dept,now I have a peace of mind,Thanks guys for sharing and getting the message out,as most people that I have seen on the road are definitely well overweight,as most have not done the GVM Upgrade when towing their Caravan or Camper Trailer.
Awesome Tommy! Sounds like your all set now, glad our info has been able to help others out 😁 Thanks for watching 🥰
That's cool! Great share! Thanks team!
Great information love the passion you guys have on the Y62, by increasing the GVM by 180 then you will have to take this off the weight of the caravan to keep it under the GCM? If a remember by one of your previous vids you were over the limit in the van and you had to remove items so this could be interesting to see how you go with the next weigh in.
Hey Robert, back in the day when we were removing items from the caravan so that we wouldn’t be overweight, this was so we could be under our 6t GCM on the Ranger. We now have 7t and the GCM should not be a problem 😁 The caravan was the one part of our setup that was totally within its weight requirements and always has been 😂😂 the GVM increase allows us to move weight around a bit and not be restricted in the car that’s all ☺️ Thanks for watching and following closely Robert 🥰
Like someone mentioned, the reason right or wrong u require a rear bar or long range tank is due to the GVM is with 200kg and above rear springs. Therefore if u are not carrying the weight to load the springs then with independent suspension it throws out the alignment and ride of the car. In Vic with the full GVM upgrade we gain an extra 585kg so worth it.i like what u did though smart and cheap to get a little extra which helps stay legal these days
And in most cases when it’s achievable (especially if you can gain 500+kg!) it’s great!! In QLD, unfortunately it’s not achievable and not so great 😭 this little mod helped us and if someone else only needs 150ks or there about, this is an excellent and affordable alternative. Thanks for watching Brad 😁
Yeah 100% what use did was very smart and most times that 180KG is all you need. Keep up the good work. It sucks that Qld dont allow the full benefit.
Didn’t take long for battle scars on bumper, Will one of the mods be a steel front bar?
Someone hit and run in the first week of ownership 😱🤬 we were so pissed! 😭 A front bar is definitely coming 😍
@@BigOzExplorers I just watched this episode and wondered about the front bumper scar 😢
Great info guys re GVM etc.
Noticed a bit of bark missing on the front of the wagon LOL.
Someone hit and run in the first week of ownership 😱🤬 we were so pissed! 😭 Lucky a front bar is coming 😍
Great little vid and great information. I'll be giving my local engineer a call next week.
The reason Ontrack require a rear wheel carrier or LRT is due to the required rating of the ring springs for the 4T upgrade and the IRS rear end. If the weight isn't in the back then the tyres will scrub out. I didn't go with that option for the very reason you didn't. I want the extra GVM for the ball weight not a LRT or rear bar.
It’s a shame they can’t get around the QLD law so what they’re doing can help us out too but with only a 10% gain of which half you loose, it’s unfortunate ☹️ we totally would have gone down that track if we could raise it over 4t too, oh well! If the rules ever change maybe we will 😏
thanks for the update. I need to look at this for NSW registered car
Hopefully it works for you, let us know how you go in NSW 😁
Seen the comments on your bumper real tough, and the First week as well that had to have hurt but on the bright side with the savings on the gvm...
It's enough for that supercharger.
At least we’re going to be able to take it off and get a front bar, not so bad when you know the panel is being removed in a couple of months!
Supercharger is still a maybe... need to finish bar work and check weights first thennnn... maybe 😏
Hi guys. Great video. I’m currently trying to make my mind up what car to get next. Can you give me some stats on economy before and after the van on.
Excellent idea. If we get our car done, does Lindsey need to see our car or can he issue the blue plate? We just picked up our car last Saturday. We’re in Gladstone CQ.
He still needs to catch up with you and see and inspect the car before he can give the OK :)
Great video. I want to do the same on a new triton. The total axel weights are 200kg more than the gvm. I would be happy with a extra 100kg. I can't raise the car due to tight access in the garage. And the peddlers upgrade lifts the car 40mm. I am trying to find someone who can do what you had done in Adelaide
Hopefully you can have the same fix then, it’s such a good little hack... Fingers crossed SA can do it too! 🙌🏻🤞🏻
@azzyrripro - did you find someone in SA to do it in the end??
@@Annieguk ended up doing a suspension upgrade from ARB which gave me a GVM upgrade and compliance plate added.
Thanks guys. I was wondering how you were going to do it. Important information about not needing to spend thousands for essentially another 20kg over what you have now.
Great videos!
Thanks Steve! Glad your enjoying the information and episodes 🥰
The added weight for the GVM would also be about adding weight to keep the balance, because without it, it'll be way to hard in the rear, it was the same when we did our Hilux, the load needs to be constant otherwise the drivability of the car would be terrible.
We have also done the GVM upgrade to our S5Y62, installed by said company and it has given us a total 4085kg so 585kg increase, I'm fully aware that isn't currently possible in QLD.
Whilst you didn't mention said company, everyone will know who you're talking about.🤔
Hilix would 100% need extra weight in the rear being a dual cab, if you’ve ever picked up a tub on the back of a dual cab they weigh nothing! Chris and I were able to move our one alone with no help when we had the Ranger :)
Amazing mate!
You guys are awesome. Is this upgrade possible for both the TI and the TI-Ls ?
Lot to learn from you folks! Keep it up!
Yes it is for the series 5, thanks for watching 😁🙌🏻
great work guys love the research you do, not just whack it together and hope for the best. have you guys considered a dash camera, great for protecting the vehicle when parked and also for insurance when driving, best thing I have done on my Hilux already paid for itself. keep up the great work love watching your journey.
Thanks James so nice to hear 🥰🙌🏻
We just installed a dash cam about a week ago. We went to buy one before the Cape trip but the one we wanted was sold out at the time 🤦🏼♀️ all running now and hard wired in with front and rear cameras 👌🏻😁 they really are the best thing to have hey 🙌🏻
Hey guys, love your channel and after watching this build and test driving one of these weapons, I'm sold!! When I mentioned the gvm to the salesman he said they are roughly $8k lol, do you know of any guys that do this in Brisbane/Gold coast? Cheers
Yes if you replace all the parts for a standard upgrade it can be 5-10K!! What we did is based on manufacturer specs and you need an engineer. Most sales reps won't be aware of what's involved for this.
Oh and we don't really know anyone in Brisbane and Gold Cost sorry 😣
I’m tipping the tyres will go eventually, kgs to be saved there!
I hope not!! 😣
If fully loaded to the GVM, does it mean that you have to get the front/rear weight distributed perfectly to not exceed the either of the axle loads?
Technically, yes! I hope we’re not loaded to the kg though 😣
Has this effected you GCM has it added to it or has it come off the caravan wieghts.
Your GCM cannot change under QLD rules. Our GCM is still 7t so technically if our car was to weigh 3.68t exactly, the caravan can only weight up to a max of 3.32t (even though it’s ATM is 3.5t).
Great vid. Might look into doing the same upgrade in Vic as I have had the same quote as you guys got for billet arms. Keep up the great content.
Hey Bear, awesome. Let us know how you go and if it’s achievable in Victoria, every state is so different! How cool would that be though if you can 😍
I was waiting to see a shot of the newly installed blue plate at the end of the video
We didn't as we expected people to have a whinge about where/how it was mounted 🤦🏼♀️ Sometimes easier to leave things certain footage out from a comment perspective lol.... I can assure you it is there and legit though 😂
Great info guys! We are in S.A and will try see if we can get the same done here... i hope!?
Possibly! You can only ask... I know this is relevant in QLD so I hope it can help you too! ☺️🤞🏻
Did you look into it I’m in SA and would want to do the same thing.
Love all the info guys. Have you measured rear axle weight fully loaded with the airbags fitted and van attached?
Not just yet, waiting for the front bar to be installed and then we are finished and can get 100% accurate figures 👌🏻
Amazing guys!well done👍🏻
Thanks again 😁
Awesome stuff guys
I have the same car
So if needed I will go down this path
Thanks again for a great vid
That’s great, glad we have been able to help other QLD patrol owners! ☺️
Good work you guys. Love your OCD.
Best way to be 😁😝
Hi you guys and kids Thats why Toyota is the choice for towing. North Queensland
In your opinion ;) Maybe against the older restricted models of Nissans yes :)
Cotton plant looking good guys! 😂 also great vid!
Lol Ben! You should see it, first flowers 🌸 today!! 👏🏻👏🏻
I saw the cotton plant as well!! 👍👍
Hey! Are they good looking cotton plants I see in the background
I know right!!! You should see it today, it’s coming along so well with first flowers yesterday 😍🌸
Hey guys love the videos. Is this just for series 5 or can it be done with the earlier series .
problem with earlier models is nissan put a weight penalty on for towbar loads makes this not really possible
@@SomervilleMetalWorks thought this may have been the case worth the shot. Cheers legend
@@danielmcgregor7449 It can and has been done with the previous series Y62's
@@jackofjr cheers mate I will do a bit more research
@@danielmcgregor7449 Yep Danial what state are you in . Jump on the Y62 Face Book page and the forums and ask there , I know of others that have done the axle group upgrade on S4 - Y62's . David Dash did his STL in SA but it had the conventional suspension . I have made inquiries here in Vic , no go so far but I will look in to it more when this Covid crap eases .
OK who did the scrape on the front bumper 😮
We were hit in a carpark when shopping 😭😭😭 some choice words were said when we found it I’ll tell you lol
Great info thanks. keep up the great work.
Thanks Terry, hope we helped you or someone you know! 😁
@@BigOzExplorers just started the gcm upgrade to our 2019 mazda bt50 IE ford ranger same same , hard to find good info at times , if you make it to Port Hedland ,WA we will catch up ,cheers .
@@terryburnham8150 glad we could help, that’s awesome. We’ll be over your way mid next year, up in Darwin at the moment. Send us a message through socials and I’m sure we can arrange something closer to the time 🤙🏻 cheers mate
Dont spose you'd know of anyone in WA that does this ?
Can this be done in Vic? Very interesting
We had a couple of people looking into it in VIC because of this episode and they were successful. Don’t know the exact price for them but the concept/idea was the same. 😁🤘🏻
Do you have any contact info ??
I could tell you I’m sorry this was some time ago and we get a lot of messages!! I suggest contacting some engineers and if they do no try the next one and so on... we had to do similar here ☺️
Cheers will do
That’s unreal!!! I’m over gvm sshhhhhh! 😂 does he come to cairns now am then an does he do other vehicles aswell ? Cheers guys lovin ya vids 👍🏻
He’s located at Townsville but comes to Cairns about every 2 weeks. He does any car/caravan 😁 we talked to him about upgrading the caravan as well because it’s a bloody good chassis but then we’d have to move to the DO45 hitch which we weren’t keen for! 😂
need a bit of touch up paint. Please dont change your style. you two are awesome. This film alone is worth so much information.
I know right, hit and run in a car park, was pretty pissed 🤬front bar goes on in a few weeks so it’ll be gone thank gosh!
Thanks so much for the feedback too, means a lot 🥰 We just share our lives and try help people out where we can if there is benefit to others, that’ll never change 🤟🏻😁
From my research and being a Landcrusier 200 owner almost every lc200 towing a van with a couple of modest accessories are illegal!! 😬. Lc200 has 610kgs to play with in its GCM, I have added bull bar = 100kg, roof rack 50kg, all terrain tyres, 40kg, fuel, 120 kg, family of 5 320kg, ball weight , 250 kg . 260 kg over!! 🙄 not to mention the fridge and some gear in the back, it’s crazy how many illegal Landcrusier and probably patrols are out there, nice vid guys, I’ll look into something similar with my car now, every kilo counts!!
Yes it is crazy how may illegal ones there are and just how many owners still have no idea they are illegal! Hope you can get something similar for yours 🤞🏻🤞🏻
I think you'll find with the long range or rear bar is that when they done the gvm upgrade the vehicle used would have had these fitted therefore for a vehicle to qualify they'd have to have the same modifications as vehicles tested. It would interesting to see if you could same mods in vic and get it passed for extra 180kgs
Yes you may be right. There would have been much time and effort with engineers to get the 10%, it’s a shame QLD is so difficult! If you can get it to pass in VIC let us know, I hope every one can seeing Nissan has OK’ed these weights on their axles 🙌🏻😁
pretty sure they want you to add a rear bar or tank because stock car is too light for the gvm upgrade, with the 400kg constant springs the wheel alignment in the rear can't be set without the extra weight. since you're car is already has added weight I think the bar or tank was not required.
Does this GVM upgrade work on previous Y62 series?
To be honest I wouldn’t be sure without looking at the original manufacturers brochures. You’ll need to figure out what the axle capacities are on your particular model. If the axle capacities combined are higher than the allowed GVM, there’s no reason you shouldn’t be able to do this too 🤙🏻
Just to clarify, did this only work because you upgraded rear springs, installed air bags and pulled out 3rd row (reclassification as a goods carrying vehicle)? Could you drive a S5 Y62 off the showroom floor to this bloke and get the GVM upgrade for $500?
i have similar Question on this. Are the Springs and Airbags 'required' to get this plate? If so, What are the Spring rating ?
This will depend on the engineer you see I think. The independent axles are rated to take the weight by the manufacturer so technically the setup off the showroom floor is sufficient but engineers can all be slightly different with different expectations to give you the GVM upgrade. Having the springs/airbags etc of course will help as well and to be honest I highly recommend them especially if towing a heavy caravan or load. I’d get a couple of quotes locally and tell them what you know and see how you go ☺️ thanks for tuning in guys 🤙🏻
Enjoy the video It's very hard to keep a modern vehicle legal That's the only reason why I still drive 80 series lane cruiser And I ran a 6.2 LS3
What weight GVM upgrade can u get on a Y62? Forget cost.. can u go up to 4495KG?
I haven’t heard 4495kg as yet, that’s almost a chop figure! In QLD though, the max you can have is 10% increase, QLD come in at a lousy 3850kg max 🤦🏼♀️
@@BigOzExplorers if u do GVM before first rego is it still same or can u get more
@@astra686 I haven’t looked into what you can have on a Patrol preregistration but I would assume more as it’s what’s called a ‘second stage manufacturer’ upgrade. You’d probably need the whole kit though to have it approved.
Makes you wonder how this sort of stuff happens
I know right!
Whats the van weigh guys?
3.3t if fully loaded, and I mean ‘weeks away on the road with no shops’ loaded lol... normally we run at around 3.1-3.2t.
The GCM is 7t
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Must you be registered in QLD?
This applies to a vehicle that is registered in Queensland. The legislations differ per state.
@@BigOzExplorers As suspected,because there is a massive environmental change as we cross those borders,buggered if I can see it though,must be blind.Thanks for your feedback and well done
@@rthomson7144 I know right, QLD must be such a different environment🤦🏼♀️😂
What happened to the front of your pootrol...?
All good, just read another comment. 🤪
Keep up the good work guys 🤘
I should have hid that for this clip. More questions about that than the GVM! 😂😂 thanks for watching 😁
Haha yes.
Going to do a Gvm on my mux with doc Tim from Brisbane.
He recon it will get me an extra 275kg for $600. And no changes has to be done to the car! Winning!
Picking up a caravan around August hopefully.
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@@AlexandreBion83 that’s awesome Alex! Bet your so excited to get it all done and have the van 😍🙌🏻
Old mate's spewin. He wanted rear wheel carrier, long range fuel tank and billet arms
We couldn’t afford to have all of those extras and tow our caravan on top of the extras we really wanted! ☹️
Nice figures!
Thanks Con!
@@BigOzExplorers Had the discount tank top on. Nice work.
I would strongly suggest you do a weigh in before you add the Bar , Winch , Roofrack or anything else , I doubt that a upgrade of 180kg will be enough . I know you said you did all the math before you bought the 62 , so I don't know how you thought you could add all that gear and still been legal , especially with a ball weight of 315kg like you said in the first video . A 62 tares at 2715 ,add 130lts of fuel 100kg then people 150-200kg you are at 3T already , add the 315 ball , you have 180-190kg left if you are lucky . I have the Fourby Fitouts unit , Rhino Bar , winch , under body plates , no Roof Rack , no bigger tyres and only 180 on the ball and we still struggle to stay under GVM . I have looked in to the axle group 180kg upgrade here in Vic before Covid got in the way , did the brake tests , for anyone interested we did several stops from 60 kph and 100 kpk . Stopping from 97.9 kph = 0.99G . time was 3.55 seconds , and 43.4 mts to come to a complete stop . We have just returned from a trip to the Murray River via the High Country we were 4.7T on the bridge but the Patrol was bang on 3.5 including the 180 ball . So its a really good idea to weigh before you add any more stuff not after .
Thanks for your concern, we appreciate it! We are weeks ahead of what you see on RUclips and I can already tell you we are good 😉 stay tuned to hear more as our episodes roll out! 😁
@@BigOzExplorers that's good I do hope it works out for you . Like I have said before in doing my research before buying a 62 after looking up the specs , I even weighed the dealers S3 , that confirmed Nissans specs were pretty much spot on , so I knew you would never get away without a upgrade . I talked to you know who down here in Vic about their GVM upgrade , it wasn't available when I bought my S4 they were still waiting on approval but I didn't like the idea of adding weight , just to get a big upgrade , I wasn't going to need anyway , I especially didn't think much of just lifting the front with a spacer , it seems that has caused a few issues . I did have HD Air Bags in the back but removed them when I fitted the Lovells springs , my Patrol now sits 10mm above std unloaded height when loaded inc ball weight , its always loaded ready to go except for ball weight . Front is 15mm down on std with the Bar and winch . I will be waiting to see any updates .
On track
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How heavy is your caravan
3.3t if fully loaded, and I mean ‘weeks away on the road with no shops’ loaded lol... normally we run at around 3.1-3.2t.
@@BigOzExplorers What is the GCM of your Nissan
@@toejoe5076 7t, don’t worry we’re legal 😉
Who "rubbed" the front of the car????
Some random in a car park. They didn’t even leave a note 😭 It was one week old! 🤬😭 Lucky we’re getting a front bar in a matter of weeks, so excited!!
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$500 for a little blue plate? Nice!
Also, what happen to your other car and do you still have it? Cheers
The other car was sold and went to a new owner in the Kimberley, WA 👌🏻🙌🏻
mate she's a good girl you got there
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wow..glad we dont have to this in the us.
If you look into your figures it not a bad thing to know about, simply to increase road safety buttttt it would be nice if the rules here were a little more relaxed! 😅
For those considering GVM/GCM upgrades considering doing things pre-registeration so that it comes Federally compliant and not just state based. Also if you need GVM/GCM best to go down the dual cab ute path - i have a Ranger with pre-rego upgrafes taking my gvm from 3.2T to 3.5T and GCM from 6T to 7.1T.
Some people don’t know they need a GVM increase until it’s registered or buy second hand and can’t get around this. We actually started with a Ranger and sold it for the Patrol because it’s engine capacity and GCM just wasn’t sufficient for our van etc... good car for a much smaller setup than ours that’s all! :) Under QLD rules you also can’t increase your GCM ☹️
@@BigOzExplorers Ah frustrating regarding Queensland and GCM. Its why we went down the pre-rego path so it would be Federally compliant.
Hi guys, just on your upgrade. It is all a lot of crp. Your up grade should of been done before u purchases vehicle, meaning before it was registered. Don’t listen to anyone. I have a Kakadu and when it comes down to legal stuff eg insurances ! U are not covered. It is a grey area. These engineers can say what they want, to take your money. But please , go on internet and read up or go in the road services ,whatever u call in qld. Every state is different, but please be careful. It is only a gvm upgrade, that does not , if some thing was to happen u are NOT covered with any insurance. Heads up I have someone who is ceo of a big insurance. Your axel might say it can take so much, but again , legally the car will not be able to handle it. All ,y vehicles have been brand new, only I backed off the Nissan which I loved, loved only due to my health I ended up with a near new Kakadu, and wanted to do the same .. just watch the wording they use. I hope I haven’t confused u, as I have confused myself. Read up on it.
I'm looking to have this done to my vehicle and based on your comments I just rang my insurer (RACQ) to ask about the implications for insurance. They knew all about GVM upgrades for towing and said as long as everything was done by an approved engineer, the vehicle had the blue modification plate and they were informed it so it could be noted on the insurance document then they were happy.
@@michaelstokes2685 that’s cool. Was Only saying ,as I don’t like people getting ripped off, told the wrong thing and most insurances are ok to take our money but when it’s time for a claim, we’ll it’s a different story. So , I hope the insurances actually have all this in black and white for all us caravan people. Cheers guys
I love the way you know about all that stuff Sian (hope I spelt your name properly 🤔) sometimes my hubby starts talking about all that stuff and I don’t get anything 😣 very good , girl power!
Thank you!! I try my best 💁🏼♀️😍🌸