I think that the reason the XTR was stopping was because of the kickback control thats integrated in it. If it detects kickback it kills the motor to prevent user injury or damage to the motor.
Yes I think you're right... if he can showcase that or redo this using the aux handle. I think his comments would have changed from "This is disappointing x3" to "this saved my wrist, wow! x3"
I think your right buddy. I was using my xtr drill with hole saw to punch thru some studs in some tight spots and the anti kickback saved me from smashing my hand. I love my XTR set! 🤙🤙🤙
It says right on the box anti-kickback tech to keep you from getting corkscrewed. It feels front heavy because its made of metal and not plastic like the DeWalt.
It's not worth it bro this guy just buys tool after tool and rambles on about it. Would make all the difference to take a pen and paper write down some notes / features / discussion points but hey who am I to say
iu put these to the hardcore test. the kickback should not be activating this early. The hilti has this feature as well. Ryobi has this and it goes off way to early like this kobalt does. it just makes it a weaker tool
@@ManCaverTools I disagree I work in a commercial production facility building houses and I have been using my xtr with a 3/4in x 2ft auger bit for drilling through studs to run wires. I have had no issues with this model so far and have had it for two weeks doing 8 houses a day. I have had the old model for 2 years and my co-worker uses it for the same purpose I do. It's pretty awesome that our company quit using corded DeWalt drills and switch to battery Kobalt drills due to the performance and reliability being better.
I'd like to see Kobalt offer a kit with the XTR 7.25" circular saw and the XTR reciprocating saw with 2 4AH batteries and a quick charger. I think having a 24V drill and impact driver is overkill.
Having a kick back feature is nice.Most of the standard hammer drills don't have this feature unless you get the SDS Max drills and even with those drills not all of them have it.You can see the light flashing in the video when the feature goes on.
I suspect some of the cut out by the XTR Hammer drill is due to the anti-kickback sensor trying to prevent a sudden jerk of the handle. What the tool needs is an option to disable it, particularly if you need to mix drywall mud, thinset, or grout. Kobalt/Lowes also needs to sell the new style belt clips too.
Yesterday I bought their XTR combo kit with the hammer drill & 1/4" impact and 2 batteries and it came with an extra 4 ah battery for a total of 3 batteries for $289.00 minus my military discount. The tool quality is much higher than the cheap a$$ Milwaukee kit that I took back before I went to Lowes for this one. I'll take that front heft to have a Jacobs chuck just like I did when I ran Makita tools.
Did you set the same clutch setting on both units? Toward the end, when comparing the two units side by side, you are showing completely different clutch settings. That makes this comparison completely useless if you did not match the clutch settings between the two.
Interesting video. It looks like if you put a little bend in the belt clip it will work. I have numerous Kobalt tools and I did not put the belt clip on. Those tools are just too heavy to hang on my belt. I get that they have a use, just not for me. I have what I think you referred to as the older tool. Mine in silver up front whereas the newer one is black up front. BUT.....I bought mine on clearance. For $55 I got the hammer drill, 1/4" impact wrench, 4 ah battery, charger and carry bag. I already had the clutch 24 volt drill but for the price of the clearance package I just could not pass getting it. Barry
Don't force the bits, let them work with the tool and clear out the bits. New tool has a rapid motion shut off in it. Remember that the tool is as good as the user and bits. You are getting better
Honestly the anti kickback or whatever they call that's what also ruins the bosch hammer drill they put to much of a high sensor or a kickback into the drill
Some many reviews I see the people pushing on the tool way to hard....let the tool and the bit your using do the work....your actually slowing it down by doing that....give it a try and toull.see what I'm talking about....i proved it to any people at my job
that's the point. if I use these tools like they are supposed to its not a good review. people want to see stress tests to the max to see what the tool can really handle. if all I did was drive in 3" screw nobody would care
Seen him baby the ryobi line but treat others like subpar junk and do bias reviews. Not fully charged batteries, setting different, forcing tools, hungover angling the tool lol
Can't close the case with the belt clip attached to the drill. Take notes Chervon. Launching all these tool and ope lines (skil 12 , skil20 skil 40, kobalt, kobaly xtr, ego, kobalt ope) , I can see them overlookikg things. Like how you can not use the kobalt angle grinder with the new UO battery, or how the UO batteries doesnt fit on the fan. Which is why it is on sale now for $50. Chervon needs to get their shit together. Especially with this kobalt xtr line. Cant even buy the 5 tool kit set. And they just launched it this year too. Thats not how you do a product launch. Cant even buy the batteries buy themselves yet. Come on Chervon.
I actually really like what im hearing about the xtr series i dont own it nor have i looked at it in person but the specs on most of their tools match up with millwaukee very well
You're running out of brands to buy lol. I would be curious how this compares to the Skil HD Hammer drill though. From what I've seen of a couple other videos, the internals of the XTR line may be identical to the Skil, but we've only seen that on the impact.(although the shells look fairly different, with a larger beavertail on the Skil, more like the first gen Kobalt.) There's also a brand called Erbauer in Europe that released a new lineup that is literally carbon copied Skil in Bosch colors (with exception to the switch on the impact) Those tools rate the hammer drill at 120N.m which is roughly 1060 in/lbs. The Skil is rated at 850in/lbs, and the XTR 1200in/lbs. So if they are all the same components inside, somewhere in that mess is the truth. Of course, the easiest thing to change is the gearing, so that may be different. EDIT I'll have to look into rpm on all of them, but I know the Skil is 550rpm in 1 and so is the XTR, and both are 2000rpm in 2. Both of the hammers operate at 32,000 bpm in speed 2 as well. On the impact, it looks like the Skil literally just has the first 2 modes of the three on the XTR. The skil max is ~2700 rpm with 3400 ipm, whereas those are the same specs for the XTR in speed 2. In speed 3 the XTR goes to ~3400 rpm and 4,000 ipm. I almost wonder if the Skil could be overclocked to those numbers as well. Maybe by putting in the same switch as the XTR if they are indeed identical otherwise.
@@ManCaverTools This may or may not be helpful, depending on if I ask you or your wallet. Looks like these deals just popped up on Amazon today. They have it on a lot of the 12 and 20v lineup. I also left a post for VCG about it. Here's a couple HD Hammer drill in kit w/impact or alone with 5ah: www.amazon.com/dp/B07MWLL2MD/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_HKyjFbV2SNZ4C Stupid deal on 12v Brushless drill, oscillating, and speaker w/2 bats: www.amazon.com/dp/B07FMVPJDT/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_WzyjFbV6PFV82 This is as of 8/1/20.
Just bend the old style belt clip out a little bit and you'll be fine with the new battery. I like that new XTR drill and the whole line of tools. I hope kobalt comes out with more in this line
First off fully charge the battery and then stop whining about the balance before the battery is installed, and try to step up your game....you set the old drill in front of the new one like your featuring the old drill
Come on, you need just little bend belt clip and done) my dewalt tools with old belt clip also dont want work with new battery so i just bend little bit and it is work fine
I have never used kobalt power tools at all I have use every major brand in the business but not kobalt they look nice i like dewalt Bosch Ridgid Makita and Ryobi blue that was used to be my home set dewalt was for work if I catch a deal when I go back to work because what I do is not considered essential the money I do got + unemployment for the I did not get fired my job is shut down to this pandemic has and improved and they are told to open back
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I think that the reason the XTR was stopping was because of the kickback control thats integrated in it. If it detects kickback it kills the motor to prevent user injury or damage to the motor.
Almost as if the reviewer should be aware of such a feature
Yes I think you're right... if he can showcase that or redo this using the aux handle. I think his comments would have changed from "This is disappointing x3" to "this saved my wrist, wow! x3"
I think your right buddy. I was using my xtr drill with hole saw to punch thru some studs in some tight spots and the anti kickback saved me from smashing my hand. I love my XTR set! 🤙🤙🤙
no powerful drill like these should be cutting out to do these tasks. no matter what features it has.
it should not be triggering that soon.
It says right on the box anti-kickback tech to keep you from getting corkscrewed. It feels front heavy because its made of metal and not plastic like the DeWalt.
It's not worth it bro this guy just buys tool after tool and rambles on about it. Would make all the difference to take a pen and paper write down some notes / features / discussion points but hey who am I to say
yes but it is going off way too soon. it should be able to withstand way more force then that with it activating. Ryobi has the same issue
iu put these to the hardcore test. the kickback should not be activating this early. The hilti has this feature as well. Ryobi has this and it goes off way to early like this kobalt does. it just makes it a weaker tool
@@ManCaverTools I disagree I work in a commercial production facility building houses and I have been using my xtr with a 3/4in x 2ft auger bit for drilling through studs to run wires. I have had no issues with this model so far and have had it for two weeks doing 8 houses a day. I have had the old model for 2 years and my co-worker uses it for the same purpose I do. It's pretty awesome that our company quit using corded DeWalt drills and switch to battery Kobalt drills due to the performance and reliability being better.
@@jamestroutman953 8 house's a day, bullcrap
Looks like its cutting off to save you from snaping your wrist.
but its cutting off way to soon. Ryobi has the same issue
I'd like to see Kobalt offer a kit with the XTR 7.25" circular saw and the XTR reciprocating saw with 2 4AH batteries and a quick charger. I think having a 24V drill and impact driver is overkill.
I would as well and I thank you Bwillan
Dave! Dude...just bend that clip a little bit on the old drill...
I think he is just speaking to the non modifiers. With all those tools he has in that freaking shop.... He better know how to modify something. Lol
yes sir. its not a big deal to do and I will be doing it :)
I do :) I love taking tools apart and swapping parts out.
Having a kick back feature is nice.Most of the standard hammer drills don't have this feature unless you get the SDS Max drills and even with those drills not all of them have it.You can see the light flashing in the video when the feature goes on.
there is no need to have the kickback activate early like that though. it should be at a different setting
@@ManCaverTools it's to protect your wrist or the motor when using larger bits.If you can easily handle the power then no the kick back is set low
By any chance will you be able to get the XTR circular saw and do a test/review?
I will in the future and I thank you for viewing N1
@@ManCaverTools np man thanks for the content
I suspect some of the cut out by the XTR Hammer drill is due to the anti-kickback sensor trying to prevent a sudden jerk of the handle. What the tool needs is an option to disable it, particularly if you need to mix drywall mud, thinset, or grout. Kobalt/Lowes also needs to sell the new style belt clips too.
yes, it is being triggered way to early and it just makes it a weaker tool.
What's the noise level on the XTR drill? I have the first gen drill and the noise coming out of it is deafening.
it wasn't too bad. it all depends on your noise tolerance
I really enjoy your videos. You do great tools vs tool challenges and you overwiew the tool the way most home owners would look at them. Thanks.
Yesterday I bought their XTR combo kit with the hammer drill & 1/4" impact and 2 batteries and it came with an extra 4 ah battery for a total of 3 batteries for $289.00 minus my military discount. The tool quality is much higher than the cheap a$$ Milwaukee kit that I took back before I went to Lowes for this one. I'll take that front heft to have a Jacobs chuck just like I did when I ran Makita tools.
Very good and I thank you OUtler for sharing your story :)
Did you set the same clutch setting on both units? Toward the end, when comparing the two units side by side, you are showing completely different clutch settings. That makes this comparison completely useless if you did not match the clutch settings between the two.
sometimes I mistaking call something the wrong thing. don't blame me a mistake here and there
Putting the drill on drill or hammer bypasses the clutch
Can you please do a video on the ryobi 18 V posthole digger
If I can get my hands on one I can :)
Can’t find the XTR at my stores!
they just come out for mine
That is exactly why it was the anti-kickback technology killing the motor. It might help using the handle that is why they give you one with the kit.
I do use the handle for the tougher stuff and I thank you True Crime
Interesting video. It looks like if you put a little bend in the belt clip it will work. I have numerous Kobalt tools and I did not put the belt clip on. Those tools are just too heavy to hang on my belt. I get that they have a use, just not for me.
I have what I think you referred to as the older tool. Mine in silver up front whereas the newer one is black up front. BUT.....I bought mine on clearance. For $55 I got the hammer drill, 1/4" impact wrench, 4 ah battery, charger and carry bag. I already had the clutch 24 volt drill but for the price of the clearance package I just could not pass getting it.
Barry
yes, the belt clip doesn't support the new 4ah battery. a little adjustment is all it needs
Don't force the bits, let them work with the tool and clear out the bits. New tool has a rapid motion shut off in it. Remember that the tool is as good as the user and bits. You are getting better
I thank you Jessica and I will remember that :)
Gots some guts ...to bad its uncomfortable to hold...also would a smaller battery effect the performance in any way as far as torque goes
we will be testing that out in the future :)
Honestly the anti kickback or whatever they call that's what also ruins the bosch hammer drill they put to much of a high sensor or a kickback into the drill
its still nice to have that feature and I thank you for viewing Toxic
"that's my main disappointment, was the size. I thought it was going to be a lot smaller." Said no girl ever...
I thought so as well. a lot more compact.
The size is good the way it should be, not a dinky tool the way people want it
Great video. Can you mabe put that xtr against dewalt atomic hammer drill?
Im uploading XTR versus Ridged today
Got the 3 piece XTR kit for $201 yesterday
very good and I thank you for viewing Daniel
Have you put the xtr up against the Milwaukee fuel yet? I’ve tried looking for it and your hammer drill videos are the best on the tube
I like the the way it's made.
very good and I thank you Dragon
The XTR has a anti kickback feature so you don't hurt your wrist
most new tools have that now as standard.
Some many reviews I see the people pushing on the tool way to hard....let the tool and the bit your using do the work....your actually slowing it down by doing that....give it a try and toull.see what I'm talking about....i proved it to any people at my job
that's the point. if I use these tools like they are supposed to its not a good review. people want to see stress tests to the max to see what the tool can really handle. if all I did was drive in 3" screw nobody would care
Seen him baby the ryobi line but treat others like subpar junk and do bias reviews. Not fully charged batteries, setting different, forcing tools, hungover angling the tool lol
Is it front heavy 😀😀
Is it worth the extra money for the XTR? Or better to get a good deal on the old model? I just bought the old model new for $55 on offerup.
I thank it is
I needed a new double bevel sliding miter saw I purchased the Ryobi model number P 3050 I just love it
Im glad you like it and I thank you Sylvester
You should use the other mic how it always was
I made more adjustments and it now sounds better
Can't close the case with the belt clip attached to the drill. Take notes Chervon. Launching all these tool and ope lines (skil 12 , skil20 skil 40, kobalt, kobaly xtr, ego, kobalt ope) , I can see them overlookikg things. Like how you can not use the kobalt angle grinder with the new UO battery, or how the UO batteries doesnt fit on the fan. Which is why it is on sale now for $50. Chervon needs to get their shit together. Especially with this kobalt xtr line. Cant even buy the 5 tool kit set. And they just launched it this year too. Thats not how you do a product launch. Cant even buy the batteries buy themselves yet. Come on Chervon.
I thank you for the feedback Evolve
Great video!! The mic sounded good. Not sure if you changed your mic. But you don’t sound like you’re far away
I thank you Billy. it took some adjustments and now we are good to go
That anti kickback feature is a little to aggressive.
Are you forcing the tool down or letting the tool do the work? I have this set but have not really used it yet.
I am forcing the tool down. I do hardcore stress tests on this channel
I actually really like what im hearing about the xtr series i dont own it nor have i looked at it in person but the specs on most of their tools match up with millwaukee very well
I got a video coming out today about it
Excellent video as usual. Please do a Dewalt power detect.
once I can get my hands on it I will
How many times can he say "ahh" in a single video 🤔? Dont think i can make it till the end.
yes I do and deal with it :)
You're running out of brands to buy lol. I would be curious how this compares to the Skil HD Hammer drill though. From what I've seen of a couple other videos, the internals of the XTR line may be identical to the Skil, but we've only seen that on the impact.(although the shells look fairly different, with a larger beavertail on the Skil, more like the first gen Kobalt.) There's also a brand called Erbauer in Europe that released a new lineup that is literally carbon copied Skil in Bosch colors (with exception to the switch on the impact) Those tools rate the hammer drill at 120N.m which is roughly 1060 in/lbs. The Skil is rated at 850in/lbs, and the XTR 1200in/lbs. So if they are all the same components inside, somewhere in that mess is the truth. Of course, the easiest thing to change is the gearing, so that may be different. EDIT I'll have to look into rpm on all of them, but I know the Skil is 550rpm in 1 and so is the XTR, and both are 2000rpm in 2. Both of the hammers operate at 32,000 bpm in speed 2 as well. On the impact, it looks like the Skil literally just has the first 2 modes of the three on the XTR. The skil max is ~2700 rpm with 3400 ipm, whereas those are the same specs for the XTR in speed 2. In speed 3 the XTR goes to ~3400 rpm and 4,000 ipm. I almost wonder if the Skil could be overclocked to those numbers as well. Maybe by putting in the same switch as the XTR if they are indeed identical otherwise.
lol. I still have a lot of brands to get, don't you worry about that lol
and more videos with new brands are coming
@@ManCaverTools This may or may not be helpful, depending on if I ask you or your wallet. Looks like these deals just popped up on Amazon today. They have it on a lot of the 12 and 20v lineup. I also left a post for VCG about it. Here's a couple HD Hammer drill in kit w/impact or alone with 5ah: www.amazon.com/dp/B07MWLL2MD/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_HKyjFbV2SNZ4C
Stupid deal on 12v Brushless drill, oscillating, and speaker w/2 bats: www.amazon.com/dp/B07FMVPJDT/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_WzyjFbV6PFV82
This is as of 8/1/20.
I am very impressed with the quality and the fact it came with a nice case. Good review.
I am as well. I thank you Scott
It’s not quitting it’s anti kickback😑 seen guys use bigger spaddle bits with that drill.
I thank you for viewing
It looks the same sir? ✌
there is not that much of a difference. but the battery is better
That new battery will probably cook the old tools if you use them hard
we will find out and I thank you Craig
Cool tools
A Kobalt Vs. Bocsh might be interesting.
Thank you for the video.
I got kobalt versus Ridgid today
@@ManCaverTools
looking forward it.
Thank you sir
Bosch is garbage...bought 3 tools, returned them all
At 8:30 there was no time for the test.
because the test failed
@@ManCaverTools Thanks for clearing that up for me.
Good video. Was looking forward to the review.
I got a versus video coming today with it
Good video!
I thank you Vane
makita vs porter cable
yes sir
No more mic pls do it the old way it’s way more balanced
I adjusted the sound and it is much more clear
Don’t know how I feel about kobalt I feel like there are a lot better options... but another good video
only way to tell is to do more test videos :)
You haven’t done much with this XTR drill. I’d love to see it up against some other brands. 💯👍🏼
we will see what happens in their promo
Mic is great, thanks for the content!
I thank you Sean :)
Milwaukee v ryobi drill bits
not a problem and I thank you Yehuda
kobalt vs porter cable
yes sir
Hey dude!!! I'm waiting for the DEWALT dcd998 review.
Thank's for share your videos
as soon as I can get it ill do a review
Never change speed while motor is going good way to destroy a tool
its rare if I do that. lol I wasn't thinking and I thank you Tyler
drilling fastening and sawing diy
Learn how to drill a hole and how to drill with different types of bits might help,js.
I thank you for viewing Matthew
Just bend the old style belt clip out a little bit and you'll be fine with the new battery. I like that new XTR drill and the whole line of tools. I hope kobalt comes out with more in this line
yes, you need to do that while its off the tool so it doesn't bend the nylon
I like my tools big
Kobalt vs Kimo
Thank you Boss 🙌🏼
I thank you Manuela
Kobalt vs Tacklife
First off fully charge the battery and then stop whining about the balance before the battery is installed, and try to step up your game....you set the old drill in front of the new one like your featuring the old drill
First off, check the date on this video. this is an old video. slow your role
Come on, you need just little bend belt clip and done) my dewalt tools with old belt clip also dont want work with new battery so i just bend little bit and it is work fine
yes you do, some people don't want to have to bend the clip though. that's why I said. it.
Kobalt vs Bosch
makita vs kobalt
yes sir
kobalt vs ryobi
that video will be coming soon ghost
Kobalt vs Hilti
Kobalt vs Flex
Kobalt vs Metabo
kobalt vs hart
yes sir
kobalt vs hercules
yes sir
kobalt vs craftsman
that video as well :)
I like it
I have never used kobalt power tools at all I have use every major brand in the business but not kobalt they look nice i like dewalt Bosch Ridgid Makita and Ryobi blue that was used to be my home set dewalt was for work if I catch a deal when I go back to work because what I do is not considered essential the money I do got + unemployment for the I did not get fired my job is shut down to this pandemic has and improved and they are told to open back
we will see how these new tools will perform and I thank you Thomas
Not to impressive for the new kobalt
I thought it would be smaller with that power
Stop pressing down so hard while drilling
disappointing. I'll stick with my Milwaukee.
Red baby
Yellow and black baby. Power detect 998 is waiting on all of the drills u can't beat Dewalt king of drills
Dewalt 996 is the king as well
very good Miller.