Advanced OpenTTD - Self-Regulating Networks

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  • Опубликовано: 29 фев 2020
  • Self-regulating networks are a type of advanced network where trains are controlled not by their orders, but by pathfinder traps and logic circuits. This video is an introduction to the weird world of SRNW.
    Link to PSG 275: wiki.openttdcoop.org/PublicSe...
    Orderless SRNW w/ Multiple Cargos Demo by jewo GRFS: • 🚅💡OpenTTD - orderless ...
    Music: Pixel by boxboys boxboys.bandcamp.com/track/p-...
    OpenTTDCoop Wiki on SRNW: wiki.openttdcoop.org/Self-reg... (poorly written)
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  • @LugnutsK
    @LugnutsK  4 года назад +8

    Orderless SRNW w/ Multiple Cargos, demo by jewoGRFS: ruclips.net/video/00Rf5tLRvas/видео.html

  • @Quiltfish
    @Quiltfish 4 года назад +178

    Sure, it works, but imagine being a passenger at that Berkeley station. You have to board at the far platform from the town, roll 20 meters, transfer to a closer platform on the other side of the train, board another train and only then get to go towards your destination. People would riot at the ticket office.

    • @LugnutsK
      @LugnutsK  4 года назад +30

      Yes >:D
      Maybe the transfer station at the very end of the video is more realistic, but then that has the logic trains spinning around. SRNW doesn't score that well for realism :p

    • @damian_madmansnest
      @damian_madmansnest 4 года назад +24

      You could market dummy train as some sort of high-tech moving waiting hall 😂

    • @HelmutKohlrabi
      @HelmutKohlrabi 3 года назад +2

      And the guy at the ticket office tops it off by requesting the Passierschein A38 to exit the train maze.

    • @vgg175
      @vgg175 Год назад +1

      pretty accurate to inter-european rail

    • @PaulFisher
      @PaulFisher 3 месяца назад +1

      in fairness, as an openttd passenger, you don’t really have a “destination” per se. it’s as if you walk into the train station in a daze, wanting to go *somewhere* and getting on literally the first train that will take you, lacking any concern about where it may or may not go.

  • @FHBStudio
    @FHBStudio 2 года назад +8

    1:19 "Next stop.... I don't know!"

  • @videogames991
    @videogames991 3 года назад +22

    im crying rn you have little slugs going into massive slugs this shit got me in literal tears+

  • @Dextrian1
    @Dextrian1 4 года назад +6

    Really interesting and technical video, thank you for your time and effort!

  • @KashouWannabe
    @KashouWannabe 4 года назад +32

    Been playing OpenTTD for a couple of years, it is of a genre that I dabbled with back when I was a kid; A-Train on the Amiga 1200.
    TPF1 is great and all, but there is something that always draws me back to OpenTTD. I find your videos on logic gates and such totally mind bending, but it goes to show what the software is capable of with the right GRFs.
    As much as I enjoy your series' I love your one off videos, great for inspiration and new ideas. So, thanks!

    • @LugnutsK
      @LugnutsK  4 года назад +1

      Thank you for your wonderful comment!

    • @null_subject
      @null_subject 2 года назад +2

      I hope you are aware that A-Train is still going very strong to this day! The latest version just released this September (2021).

  • @IlayarajaS1997
    @IlayarajaS1997 4 года назад +4

    Wonderful video as always. It does look fun to make.

  • @cavorkehl6777
    @cavorkehl6777 2 года назад +3

    When you realize passengers have to wait in empty cities with only train rails, those stations designs feels like sci-fi or cyberpunk scenes.

  • @pablo.g
    @pablo.g 4 года назад +1

    Great video, good to see you back!

  • @daniel69
    @daniel69 3 месяца назад +2

    This is just art at this point.

  • @beauxguss6321
    @beauxguss6321 8 месяцев назад

    I've found that with no orders (except dummy) a few backwards facing path signals is all you need to control. That is, one back facing at the decision point, one on the main line after the decision point and a regular forward facing signal at the waiting position. Back facing paths don't force orderless trains to stop the way forward facing ones do, so they act more like block signals on the main line, but will always send a train to a forward facing signal first.
    Also, if you have a path signal on the waypoint side of the dummy platform, then make the dummy orders to the far end, it will turn around before unloading, allowing the waiting train to enter the station while unloading is still taking place.
    Wouldn't have figured any of this out without your primer... thanks @LugnutsK I've learned so much from your videos.

  • @Random0890_
    @Random0890_ 8 месяцев назад +2

    1:05 you're telling me I could have done this the entire time instead of changing the entire schedule every time I add a station
    I wish I knew of this before

  • @jewoGRFS
    @jewoGRFS 4 года назад +3

    And that's what I call The Perfect Manual 👀👌👍👏

  • @RedSaint83
    @RedSaint83 Год назад +2

    Brilliant. I've hit 500+ hours in OpenTTD, and had just gotten bored of the regular way of playing it. Learning this mechanic I might squeeze another couple of hundred hours out of the game :)

  • @UntouchedWagons
    @UntouchedWagons 3 года назад +2

    I may use the dummy train mechanic but god damn the rest of that is just absurd.

  • @Yvax99
    @Yvax99 4 года назад +6

    WE ARE BACK BOIS!

  • @PiotrDzialak
    @PiotrDzialak 3 года назад +1

    You are crazy (and it works)

  • @FHBStudio
    @FHBStudio 2 года назад +2

    I can only pity all of those passengers. And train conductors. Nice cash tho.

  • @srulyfasten1039
    @srulyfasten1039 4 года назад +1

    Finally

  • @KhanterWinters
    @KhanterWinters 4 года назад +7

    I missed ur videos!
    So this would solve issues of giving orders all time?
    Also, that road newgrf, is of Europe Newgrf or US?

    • @LugnutsK
      @LugnutsK  4 года назад +2

      Yeah, you can add more stations to a SRNW without needing to make new trains/orders!
      Road GRF is the American Road Replacement Set.

  • @Gamer-Clark
    @Gamer-Clark 3 месяца назад

    12:09 Sadly the save game download of the coop game doesn’t seem to work for me.
    It’s taken me a long time to understand the design of the sub network for the pickup / transfer trains. The reversers hidden in tunnels are the key to encourage trains to take the waiting bays.

  • @leediffusion
    @leediffusion 4 года назад +2

    I'd missed your video's! Partly because RUclips had unsubscribed me

  • @Duck1en
    @Duck1en 2 года назад

    So i can't do it without the console command? I wanted to try in the multiplayer

  • @S.Gamedev-zc2wp
    @S.Gamedev-zc2wp 22 дня назад

    Open and exit signal can work instead of 2 way eol, no need to change settings

  • @dayman888
    @dayman888 2 года назад +1

    Where do you get all those different types of signals from? I only have a few signal types.

    • @mmneander1316
      @mmneander1316 Год назад +4

      I understand that in newer releases of the game, the UI by default shows only path signals and not the "classical" entry/exit/combo signals. But you can still re-enable those "classical" signals in your Settings.

    • @dayman888
      @dayman888 Год назад +2

      @@mmneander1316 Sweet, thanks!

    • @mmneander1316
      @mmneander1316 Год назад

      @@dayman888 My pleasure. :-)

  • @siri_cz685
    @siri_cz685 3 года назад +2

    5:29 would it be possible to use entry signal on the entrance and exit signal on the splitted tracks and on the station route don't put any signals untill the station? I think that would be a bit easier that needing to turn on the two-way command

    • @siri_cz685
      @siri_cz685 3 года назад

      Btw sorry for bad explanation. English isn't my first language and I am still learning it, so sorry bout that

    • @CiaranMaxwell
      @CiaranMaxwell 2 года назад +1

      Yes, but that wouldn't force a full load. The goal was to force a full load.
      Edit: Your English is fine. I have yet to see someone who offers that apology and is worse than a native speaker. (They're usually better than most native speakers!)

    • @siri_cz685
      @siri_cz685 2 года назад +1

      @@CiaranMaxwell oh yea, now I understand, thanks

  • @kevinwatts8221
    @kevinwatts8221 3 года назад

    Couldn't you make it so the next train doesn't go to Oxford UNTIL the full load has transferred and is waiting?

  • @filbertshi5932
    @filbertshi5932 3 года назад

    You still play coop ttd?

  • @eronex777
    @eronex777 3 года назад

    Сколько же часов на такую постройку потрачено...

  • @szecska5
    @szecska5 2 года назад

    Are these trains making profit?

  • @partycrasher1569
    @partycrasher1569 2 года назад

    11:20 the trains kinda looks like maggots ngl

  • @jankus5133
    @jankus5133 Месяц назад

    This can't work without disabling train depot maintenance and reducing all infrastructure upkeep costs to or near to zero.

  • @itkerry.gaming
    @itkerry.gaming 4 года назад +3

    Hold on, wait a minute... you are Hazzard? O_O