I have this monitor for a year now and I absolutely love it. These issues are not a deal-breaker for me as I`m not ultra-sensitive. There is no such thing as perfect.
well that's reassuring 4/5 of your complaints dont even matter to me, i use a monitor arm exclusively, i fully plan on running this thing at 120hz for 10bit colour i only got a 1080 ti 144fps is hard enough at 1440p anyway and i plan on turning the backlighting off immediately , the fps counter thing i just use NVIDA's shadowplay. WRT the bug im sure LG will release an update they are usually pretty good with updates for there TV's great 5 pros and cons i will for sure be picking this up
Did you end up getting this monitor? Reason being I have a TITAN X (Pascal). You having 1080 Ti is slightly stronger than my card (last I checked on that was back in the day, when NVIDIA ripped off TITAN X pascal card holders by releasing 1080 Ti with slightly stronger specs and for half the price 🤬). If you ended up paring your 1080 Ti and this monitor, your input would be appreciated😎👍. I definitely want a 1440p picture with decent fps. I too would settle at 120 to 100 fps with this monitor maybe a little less even. That being said, my graphic pushing games wouldn't be too demanding considering they're sim racing games like: ACC, F1 2020, GRID 2, GRID(2019), and Wreckfest. 🤷♂️🙋♂️
Love the feedback. Your insight is appreciated, I will hold off on purchasing this monitor. It should work out of the box, without any issues ! Kindly let us know if LG fixes those issues.
I really don't think a stand ,RGB illumination, and a 15 hz difference are deal breakers . I have this monitor and with 9900k w/2080ti and you can barely reach the 160 fps mark without lowering settings . The point of diminishing returns past 144 is so minute as well
@SuprUsr Stan hey i fixed the sleep issue by turning off deep sleep in the settings of the monitor try that also turning off the monitor and turning it back on again fixes that issue as well better then restarting
If youre referring to the issue mentioned at 6:40 then I'd say yes they have, as I just checked mine after seeing this (I leave everything running all the time) and I was still in full 10 bit.
The disappointment #1 - "Color Profile Sleep Bug" is really a deal breaker for me. I don't want the hassle of manually setting it each time after the monitor goes to sleep. Will LG fix it? How is their Customer Service quality? I have not bought anything major from this brand before, please advise.
I'm so glad I came across your channel. You went in depth about this monitor in a short but concise way so thank you! This video ultimately helped me decide my purchase. So, I couldn't decide whether to get this one or the slightly smaller LG 34GN850-B. After watching this It sort of just clicked that I couldn't justify spending a total of $700 extra with taxes for essentially the same monitor. That rgb ring looks beautiful but im sure it would bother down the road knowing the lights are slightly delayed. Plus both panels essentially have the same refresh rate of 160hz. HDR 600 on this compared to the HDR 400 on the 34" didn't make a difference since HDR makes some games I play way too bright and washed out anyways. I did want just a little bit more screen pixel real estate but for the price It really doesn't make sense to me. So thank you for saving me a small fortune! I'll be investing that into a new 3080ti when it releases!
I've seen your videos prior to purchasing this monitor and now, after using it for a couple of days, The biggest disappointment for me by far is the contrast ratio. This is not what I expect from an IPS monitor. This monitor is sitting on my desk, side by side with another IPS monitor (the most excellent Asus ProArt PA329Q) and the difference is huge. The Asus is a professional 4K monitor but it's almost four years old. I expected more from LG. Other than that, the display is great. I am going to keep it and although the mount is not as terrible as I thought it would be, I am going to hook it up to a mount. Again - great video. liked and subbed.
Thanks for the insights on this monitor, it is good to know all of this things that actually comes from experience and not only just a spec note from the web about a monitor.
I run it at 175 Hz - text looks identical to 160 Hz... Unless you're doing professional video/photo editing (which this is not the best monitor for anyway), most of us mortals couldn't tell the difference between the 444 and 422 subsampling. My biggest disappointment is not being able to fully disable the LED ring during the boot up of the monitor and having a rainbow unicorn when you boot or waking from sleep
Also, this is why you may be having the "deep sleep" issue with your monitor and having to restart it to turn it back on...try this: The monitor came with "deep sleep" turned on by default for some reason. Turn this off in the monitor OSD if you use Windows to put your monitor to sleep after a period of inactivity, or else GSync won't work and your refresh rate will be limited to 100Hz when it wakes back up, necessitating a PC restart.
UPDATE: After 5 months. Tested it against : Predator x34a, Predator z301c, LG 34GL750, LG 34UC89G + No ghosting, No coronas, No blur. I have never seen image that accurate in motion to still image. Just Perfect. + Sphere Lighting (to me is the best feature of them all). Go for Video Sync Mode when in Full Screen. It's very nice experience. + Flat Stand (Not to big, Can be put on shallow desk) + Brighter + Image Quality and Oled like Colors. I recommend Setting Digital Vibrance to 66 and gamma to 0.85 (Nvidia Panel) + Bigger + Higher Resolution + Higher Refresh Rate (HDR still available in 175Hz, 10 bpc, YCbCr422, Limited output dynamic range). Some people complain that text looks weird in 175Hz but that only applies to HDR desktop, SDR text looks OK). Since It's not OLED you can easily run 10 bpc, YCbCr422 and have excactly the same colors as in RGB. I do also have Oled TV and to get deep Blacks RGB is necessary but not for this monitor. Those are 7 you will gain over x34 There are also disadvantages. - Vertical Scan lines (When Gsync is cold). Visible when moving objects or rotating camera - Screen Flickering when Gsync Windowed Mode is selected in Nvidia settings. Appears when Gsync Module is Cold (up to 1 hour depend on application you use), visible in app like Photoshop, Premiere Pro, Filmora, reWASD. //// Both of those flaws can be fixed by Disabling DEEP SLEEP in monitor options. The downside is that the gsync fan will never stop spinning and its audible. //// - Fan noise (2 of them), are annoying. - IPS Glow is massive so Viewing Angles are bad. This is not IPS you used to know. When you look at it from 45 degrees, there is no Black just grey and if the picture is dark you can't see anything, a mixture of VA and TN. When you sit in front It's OK - Gamma Mode 3 is not dark enough like x34 is. This can be corrected by making 2 necessary Actions. Go Nvidia Panel - Display - Adjust desktop color settings - drop GAMMA from 1.00 to 0.85 //// To keep Colors every Windows start - use Windows Search - type TASK SCHEDULER - Task Scheduler Library - Microsoft - Windows - WindowsColorSystem - Calibration Loader - right click on it - and DISABLE. //// - Fake HDR. Don't even try it. It's false advertisement and has nothing to do with HDR. The image is dim, not colorful and looks just Ugly. I wish it wasn't even implemented because games recognise HDR capable Monitor and kicks in The Fake HDR in Fullscreen and if game has no Option to change that you will have to run In Fullscreen Windowed to bring back SDR which looks amazing (Just boost Digital Vibrance to 66 in NVIDIA Panel and set Gama to 0.85). HDR even kicks in in 175Hz 8bit but no matter what Refresh Rate and setting u go for HDR looks the same and looks bad. Monitor doesn't offer different colour settings for SDR and HDR like TV does when HDR, DolbyVision and SDR have their independent color setting adjustments. - Volume Control (on Joystick) but there are no speakers. Left and Right activate Volume control but those shortcuts should be use for switching On/Off Crosshair and FPS counter - Lazy Menu. There are Gamer Profiles but you can not Edit, Save and Overwrite existing profiles with Crosshair or FPS counter included like Predator x34 does. You always have to go deep inside Menu and do it. Also you can not have both, only one. - Also I would like to see LG UltraGear Control Center opening minimized in TaskBar not Open on Desktop every windows start. You can help yourself and use "Actual Window Minimizer", add LG UltraGear Control Center and make it run minimized into Tray. Summary: LG did a bad job not implementing passive cooling on Gsync module. Fan Noise. Amazing Sphere Lightning experience. It's a joy to use, colors close to an OLED TV.
I have this monitor too and I agree with your list of the top 5 issues with the LG 38GL950G. The color profile loss on sleep, while occasional, is very annoying.
Very informative video, actually all of them. My LG 38GL950G-B 38, arrives Monday. Thank you for the excellent coverage. Would you be so kind as to post a link “if available” for the (desktop speakers) and the (desk itself). I am in need of a new computer desk and yours looks great! :). Being this is a “disappointment video” the inputs almost stopped me from getting it. No usb 3 hummm :/
Would you advise to get this instead of the 34GN850? I’ve one on order but it’s from amazon Germany and I’m in UK plus some delay it seems whereas the 38 is £1499, the amazon reviews don’t look great though, fan noise, heat, gsync issues etc....thanks
Was looking to buy this monitor after having purchased the Acer X34P twice and having had issues out of the box both times (1 bright red pixel in the center first time, 1 dead/dim pixel with the panel losing signal randomly on any overclock setting the second). Will not be purchasing now as the top issue is 100% a deal breaker. A monitor going to sleep is a multiple times a day occurrence. I'd be pretty crossed if I had to go into the monitor's OSD and change color settings each time. Persistence of settings (even the FPS counter imo) is a basic requirement. Even a day's worth of end user testing would have caught that problem. Thanks for the video @SuprUsr Stan. This "user experience" section containing what "your actual experience was like when using a product everyday for a few days" is the bit sorely missing in the majority of reviews out there. Good content. Definitely helped me make a decision.
I realize this an old review, but as I'm listening to you, I am looking at the LG site, and it says this monitor is 144hz. Your issue w/ the stand is sort of ridiculous IMO. If someone is dropping so much scratch on a premium monitor, they're typically going to use a VESA mount to save desk space and improve functionality and aesthetics. However, the firmware glitch is legit...which I assume they'd have corrected by now?
Still using the monitor. Still haven’t found a better replacement. Quite honestly, I can’t remember all that clearly but it’s no longer an issue. In fact, I really don’t have much complaints about this monitor after getting it on a monitor stand and using it for this long. Would buy again.
I think the 175hz part is nit picking. Seriously who needs 175 hz refresh rate for productivity? 75 is decent and 120 is more than enough. Even many gamers are fine with 120. Personally I like the new lg38 wn95c, but will hold off until price comes down.
120Hz is the bare minimum for me. When I switched from a 165Hz1080P uw-monitor to a 120Hz1440P uw-monitor I did directly feel the downgrade in smoothness and motion clarity. However 120Hz is still fine.
that display Mounting Arm looks pretty cool i got a ikea desk too might have to get one! using a acer pradator z35p at moment just purchased racing sim setup so been able to bring the monitor closer and futher away without havin to move stand around all time would be beneficial
Hi Stan, Thanks so much for your reviews on this monitor. Can I ask your opinion on the LG 38GN950-B based on the specs? I wonder if it will address your disappointments with the GL, but perhaps create some of its own with a lack of the G-SYNC module? Would appreciate your thoughts! Ash
have you tried a DP 1.4 with Display Stream Compression 1.2 certified cable along with a video card that supports its? would that fix the bandwidth issue at 175Hz? Please let me know if that address the issue you mentioned. Thanks!
Thank you very much for your review. I upgraded my Dell AW3418DW with an ASUS ROG Terminal so I can have the same RGB video synced backlight effect. Sadly it is also very delayed and laggy. Hopefully we will get one day a monitor which syncs the backlight via hardware. It would be one good reason to get a G-Sync monitor.
THanks for your video, I'm looking for a monitor and I thing I will go with this. However I have a question. Are u connecting your Macbook pro to this monitor? If so, how you do it? Adapter? Thanks
Can you please clarify/update us on the YCbCr422 after standby? Some of the pages you showed in your video are actually from nVidia driver forums. Do you have more information as two why it is one or the other?
Needing a fan in the back to keep it cool (which fans if not dusted get loud over time) and sleep issues are my reasons for not buying one. For someone just gaming then turning off, makes sense, but I need it to use for work, research, and then for some fun. Can't afford down time when I need it for work. SupUsr Stan good review.
On the brink to buy a new monitor and pc . I want to game on 4K / 144hz Monitor with the 3080 card . There are 3 options for me . Is this one but the 27” , Acer Predator or Acer predator x27 or ASUS ROG Swift PG27UQ . What would you suggest I should buy ?
from those 3 the LG in my opinion is the obvious winner as it has 10bit color while the other two have 8bit and also it has faster response time 1ms while the other two have 4ms. One thing better that they have is hdr, lg has 600 and them have 1000.
I have a sub optimal setup for gaming but I manage to pull about 90fps average on a Threadripper 3960X and a 1080Ti. You can do much better if your system is dedicated for gaming imo.
what is this sleep problem with all LG products? I bought LG speakers recently (Z537) and if they don't get a sound signal from the computer for a few minutes they automatically go to sleep. they come back after I start playing something but it takes few seconds, and those few seconds they are completely silent and it's so freakin annoying. there is no option or software to turn it off either....
There's a patent on the "ambilight effect" owned by philips iirc, i'm not sure LG can implement some kind of hardware embeded into the monitor to project led to the backwall, they would be infringing Philips patent
Just a heads up, there is a G-SYNC indicator option in the Nvidia Control Panel, under the "Display" tab on top. ( I think it only appears if you turn on G-sync for both Fullscreen and Windowed). Hope it helps with your FPS counter problem.
Would appreciate it a lot if they through every the useless features like delayed backlight or refresh rate overclocking that yields a stupid bad picture and make it a more reasonable price wise.
I'm super stoked for a fast 38" at some point. My number one thing on this would have been the moderate contrast ratio.. But also, I had no idea about the Sphere Lighting needing software, that sucks. I was really interested in the ambient effect. I had no idea that it wouldn't be a hardware feature. What a let down. Considering that they key aesthetic is kind of a bust, I would have the X38 hands down, for a SIMILAR price.. I have an older Acer 34", Freesync monitor and I love grown up the look and the stand.. But if they try to charge $500+ more than LG, they are out of their minds! Almost forgot, LG has a slightly cheaper Vesa Adaptive Sync based model coming, with higher HDR specs to boot. I'm at least waiting for that and you should try to get us some news on it! ;)
i have one more question. does it support xbox and meanwhile ps5 amd freesync ? in the internet they say it works with amd gpu .. but it says gsync only .. im confused
Personally, I still prefer G-Sync over Compatible. However, it's probably a placebo effect at this point. Both are plenty good. G-Sync still usually offers a wider VRR range.
Does the 4:2:2 after resume problem go away if you disable Deep Sleep? I had to disable that on my Alienware 34" because it actually powers off, and makes all of my windows resize on resume.
I canceled my AOC cu34g2x after watching all these videos VA panels just dont look anywhere near this good its in my cart and im on the fence about buying this model
I was about to purchase this monitor but that last flaw you gave has me worried...too much money to spending on something that doesn't function properly
i would say if you want to buy this monitor go for it, it's the best in it's class, the refresh rate advertising con is the only real con here the rest is just nitpicking and he wanted to make a top 5 list for the video so it's totally understandable.
Does anyone else find that the text fringing/chromatic aberration on this monitor is kind of annoying? It's really bad at 175hz but even at 160 with full RGB it's kind of noticeable. Maybe I'm just OCD
Just a suggestion: I watched the video for 1 minute and 22 seconds and I'm getting eye strain from your blinking eyes and head movements, especially when you wave it constantly left and right. I'm not trying to attack you in any way. It might just be me, but maybe consider moving the camera a bit further, and less head movements.
sure u just didn't get a dud monitor? i checked my settings, paused your screen there on 2:02 and my format says 10bit, and EOTF is HDR all with the 175hz unlocked, the YCbCr422 is the same tho
10bit 175hz 422 is impossible because there’s just not enough bandwidth in the DisplayPort cable to support all those features. That’s why there’s a trade off between those three to stay below the bandwidth limitation.
@@SuprUsrStan yeh that sounds right but I’ll try remind I’ll grab screen shots both the screens osd and nvidia control panel reports 10bit 175hz with the 422, but I copied yours I get full rgb at 160hz
I have this monitor for a year now and I absolutely love it. These issues are not a deal-breaker for me as I`m not ultra-sensitive. There is no such thing as perfect.
well that's reassuring 4/5 of your complaints dont even matter to me, i use a monitor arm exclusively, i fully plan on running this thing at 120hz for 10bit colour i only got a 1080 ti 144fps is hard enough at 1440p anyway and i plan on turning the backlighting off immediately , the fps counter thing i just use NVIDA's shadowplay. WRT the bug im sure LG will release an update they are usually pretty good with updates for there TV's
great 5 pros and cons i will for sure be picking this up
same. these issues are nitpicky
Did you end up getting this monitor? Reason being I have a TITAN X (Pascal). You having 1080 Ti is slightly stronger than my card (last I checked on that was back in the day, when NVIDIA ripped off TITAN X pascal card holders by releasing 1080 Ti with slightly stronger specs and for half the price 🤬).
If you ended up paring your 1080 Ti and this monitor, your input would be appreciated😎👍. I definitely want a 1440p picture with decent fps. I too would settle at 120 to 100 fps with this monitor maybe a little less even. That being said, my graphic pushing games wouldn't be too demanding considering they're sim racing games like: ACC, F1 2020, GRID 2, GRID(2019), and Wreckfest. 🤷♂️🙋♂️
Love the feedback. Your insight is appreciated, I will hold off on purchasing this monitor. It should work out of the box, without any issues ! Kindly let us know if LG fixes those issues.
I really don't think a stand ,RGB illumination, and a 15 hz difference are deal breakers . I have this monitor and with 9900k w/2080ti and you can barely reach the 160 fps mark without lowering settings . The point of diminishing returns past 144 is so minute as well
@SuprUsr Stan hey i fixed the sleep issue by turning off deep sleep in the settings of the monitor try that also turning off the monitor and turning it back on again fixes that issue as well better then restarting
Really informative! I am just waiting on the 38GN950-B and see how it goes!
Did LG ever fix the #1 complaint - the chroma sleep bug?
I don't think so. I just returned a 27GN950 because of a sleep bug where it won't recognise any input after waking up from power saving mode
If youre referring to the issue mentioned at 6:40 then I'd say yes they have, as I just checked mine after seeing this (I leave everything running all the time) and I was still in full 10 bit.
Great video. What would you recommend today ???
The disappointment #1 - "Color Profile Sleep Bug" is really a deal breaker for me. I don't want the hassle of manually setting it each time after the monitor goes to sleep. Will LG fix it? How is their Customer Service quality? I have not bought anything major from this brand before, please advise.
I plan to order this monitor. have there been any updates that have fixed the bugs you mentioned? Thanks for your video
Looking out for the refresh of this monitor :)
The deal breaker with the Acer is that is says "PREDATOR" on the front, and im not 13 years old :D
I'm so glad I came across your channel. You went in depth about this monitor in a short but concise way so thank you! This video ultimately helped me decide my purchase. So, I couldn't decide whether to get this one or the slightly smaller LG 34GN850-B. After watching this It sort of just clicked that I couldn't justify spending a total of $700 extra with taxes for essentially the same monitor. That rgb ring looks beautiful but im sure it would bother down the road knowing the lights are slightly delayed. Plus both panels essentially have the same refresh rate of 160hz. HDR 600 on this compared to the HDR 400 on the 34" didn't make a difference since HDR makes some games I play way too bright and washed out anyways. I did want just a little bit more screen pixel real estate but for the price It really doesn't make sense to me. So thank you for saving me a small fortune! I'll be investing that into a new 3080ti when it releases!
Thank you for this. I was lurking around almost buying this monitor - but think I'll hold on for a while now. Moar research needed.
I've seen your videos prior to purchasing this monitor and now, after using it for a couple of days, The biggest disappointment for me by far is the contrast ratio. This is not what I expect from an IPS monitor. This monitor is sitting on my desk, side by side with another IPS monitor (the most excellent Asus ProArt PA329Q) and the difference is huge. The Asus is a professional 4K monitor but it's almost four years old. I expected more from LG.
Other than that, the display is great. I am going to keep it and although the mount is not as terrible as I thought it would be, I am going to hook it up to a mount.
Again - great video. liked and subbed.
Hahaha you should have bought an LG CX
If the screen changes after going into sleep mode it really concerning, wonder how long it will take to fix this problem.
Any updates on this? Did they fix it?
Same im curios if this is still a problem.
Thanks for the insights on this monitor, it is good to know all of this things that actually comes from experience and not only just a spec note from the web about a monitor.
Can't wait to receive mine, decided to get it based off your videos as the deciding factor. Thanks!
Hello. If I may ask what desk is that behind you? It looks very nice. Can it be bought somewhere or is it custom made?
Thanks for making this video!
do u know if the sleep mode(refresh rate and chroma subsampling) issue was fixed for this one, or if the 38GN950 has it also? thank you!
I run it at 175 Hz - text looks identical to 160 Hz... Unless you're doing professional video/photo editing (which this is not the best monitor for anyway), most of us mortals couldn't tell the difference between the 444 and 422 subsampling.
My biggest disappointment is not being able to fully disable the LED ring during the boot up of the monitor and having a rainbow unicorn when you boot or waking from sleep
Hi. I am a gamer. Just a gamer. Do i är THE difference in color between 160 Hz and 175 Hz? Just gaming?
Stan! great job man. I will be making this purchase for my birthday. Will definitely buy an arm
Also, this is why you may be having the "deep sleep" issue with your monitor and having to restart it to turn it back on...try this: The monitor came with "deep sleep" turned on by default for some reason. Turn this off in the monitor OSD if you use Windows to put your monitor to sleep after a period of inactivity, or else GSync won't work and your refresh rate will be limited to 100Hz when it wakes back up, necessitating a PC restart.
UPDATE: After 5 months. Tested it against : Predator x34a, Predator z301c, LG 34GL750, LG 34UC89G
+ No ghosting, No coronas, No blur. I have never seen image that accurate in motion to still image. Just Perfect.
+ Sphere Lighting (to me is the best feature of them all). Go for Video Sync Mode when in Full Screen. It's very nice experience.
+ Flat Stand (Not to big, Can be put on shallow desk)
+ Brighter
+ Image Quality and Oled like Colors. I recommend Setting Digital Vibrance to 66 and gamma to 0.85 (Nvidia Panel)
+ Bigger
+ Higher Resolution
+ Higher Refresh Rate (HDR still available in 175Hz, 10 bpc, YCbCr422, Limited output dynamic range). Some people complain that text looks weird in 175Hz but that only applies to HDR desktop, SDR text looks OK). Since It's not OLED you can easily run 10 bpc, YCbCr422 and have excactly the same colors as in RGB. I do also have Oled TV and to get deep Blacks RGB is necessary but not for this monitor.
Those are 7 you will gain over x34
There are also disadvantages.
- Vertical Scan lines (When Gsync is cold). Visible when moving objects or rotating camera
- Screen Flickering when Gsync Windowed Mode is selected in Nvidia settings. Appears when Gsync Module is Cold (up to 1 hour depend on application you use), visible in app like Photoshop, Premiere Pro, Filmora, reWASD.
//// Both of those flaws can be fixed by Disabling DEEP SLEEP in monitor options. The downside is that the gsync fan will never stop spinning and its audible. ////
- Fan noise (2 of them), are annoying.
- IPS Glow is massive so Viewing Angles are bad. This is not IPS you used to know. When you look at it from 45 degrees, there is no Black just grey and if the picture is dark you can't see anything, a mixture of VA and TN. When you sit in front It's OK
- Gamma Mode 3 is not dark enough like x34 is. This can be corrected by making 2 necessary Actions. Go Nvidia Panel - Display - Adjust desktop color settings - drop GAMMA from 1.00 to 0.85
//// To keep Colors every Windows start - use Windows Search - type TASK SCHEDULER - Task Scheduler Library - Microsoft - Windows - WindowsColorSystem - Calibration Loader - right click on it - and DISABLE. ////
- Fake HDR. Don't even try it. It's false advertisement and has nothing to do with HDR. The image is dim, not colorful and looks just Ugly. I wish it wasn't even implemented because games recognise HDR capable Monitor and kicks in The Fake HDR in Fullscreen and if game has no Option to change that you will have to run In Fullscreen Windowed to bring back SDR which looks amazing (Just boost Digital Vibrance to 66 in NVIDIA Panel and set Gama to 0.85). HDR even kicks in in 175Hz 8bit but no matter what Refresh Rate and setting u go for HDR looks the same and looks bad. Monitor doesn't offer different colour settings for SDR and HDR like TV does when HDR, DolbyVision and SDR have their independent color setting adjustments.
- Volume Control (on Joystick) but there are no speakers. Left and Right activate Volume control but those shortcuts should be use for switching On/Off Crosshair and FPS counter
- Lazy Menu. There are Gamer Profiles but you can not Edit, Save and Overwrite existing profiles with Crosshair or FPS counter included like Predator x34 does. You always have to go deep inside Menu and do it. Also you can not have both, only one.
- Also I would like to see LG UltraGear Control Center opening minimized in TaskBar not Open on Desktop every windows start. You can help yourself and use "Actual Window Minimizer", add LG UltraGear Control Center and make it run minimized into Tray.
Summary:
LG did a bad job not implementing passive cooling on Gsync module. Fan Noise. Amazing Sphere Lightning experience. It's a joy to use, colors close to an OLED TV.
I have this monitor too and I agree with your list of the top 5 issues with the LG 38GL950G. The color profile loss on sleep, while occasional, is very annoying.
how about the fan noise? some people were complaining about the fans being too loud in the reviews. have you noticed anything like that?
Please review the 38GN950 to see if it gets more perfect? :)
what up, are you still using this monitor or did you upgrade to something better
Nice video. Thanks for the honest review.
Very informative video, actually all of them. My LG 38GL950G-B 38, arrives Monday. Thank you for the excellent coverage. Would you be so kind as to post a link “if available” for the (desktop speakers) and the (desk itself). I am in need of a new computer desk and yours looks great! :). Being this is a “disappointment video” the inputs almost stopped me from getting it. No usb 3 hummm :/
Currently using the 27GL850 and I have no complaints. It’s perfect!
But I agree the stand feels cheap for the cost.
Would you advise to get this instead of the 34GN850? I’ve one on order but it’s from amazon Germany and I’m in UK plus some delay it seems whereas the 38 is £1499, the amazon reviews don’t look great though, fan noise, heat, gsync issues etc....thanks
Was looking to buy this monitor after having purchased the Acer X34P twice and having had issues out of the box both times (1 bright red pixel in the center first time, 1 dead/dim pixel with the panel losing signal randomly on any overclock setting the second).
Will not be purchasing now as the top issue is 100% a deal breaker. A monitor going to sleep is a multiple times a day occurrence. I'd be pretty crossed if I had to go into the monitor's OSD and change color settings each time.
Persistence of settings (even the FPS counter imo) is a basic requirement. Even a day's worth of end user testing would have caught that problem.
Thanks for the video @SuprUsr Stan. This "user experience" section containing what "your actual experience was like when using a product everyday for a few days" is the bit sorely missing in the majority of reviews out there.
Good content. Definitely helped me make a decision.
All really good points!
I realize this an old review, but as I'm listening to you, I am looking at the LG site, and it says this monitor is 144hz. Your issue w/ the stand is sort of ridiculous IMO. If someone is dropping so much scratch on a premium monitor, they're typically going to use a VESA mount to save desk space and improve functionality and aesthetics. However, the firmware glitch is legit...which I assume they'd have corrected by now?
Has any of the bugs been fixed? I'm in the market to purchase🤔
How do you like the fan in this monitor? Was for me a reason to not buy this; I cannot have tiny fan spoiling my silent setup 🤯
Been a few years - curious if your still using it and if there have been any fixes for the issues you've mentioned? Especially #1
Still using the monitor. Still haven’t found a better replacement. Quite honestly, I can’t remember all that clearly but it’s no longer an issue. In fact, I really don’t have much complaints about this monitor after getting it on a monitor stand and using it for this long. Would buy again.
I think the 175hz part is nit picking. Seriously who needs 175 hz refresh rate for productivity? 75 is decent and 120 is more than enough. Even many gamers are fine with 120. Personally I like the new lg38 wn95c, but will hold off until price comes down.
120Hz is the bare minimum for me. When I switched from a 165Hz1080P uw-monitor to a 120Hz1440P uw-monitor I did directly feel the downgrade in smoothness and motion clarity. However 120Hz is still fine.
that display Mounting Arm looks pretty cool i got a ikea desk too might have to get one! using a acer pradator z35p at moment just purchased racing sim setup so been able to bring the monitor closer and futher away without havin to move stand around all time would be beneficial
Hi Stan,
Thanks so much for your reviews on this monitor. Can I ask your opinion on the LG 38GN950-B based on the specs? I wonder if it will address your disappointments with the GL, but perhaps create some of its own with a lack of the G-SYNC module? Would appreciate your thoughts! Ash
have you tried a DP 1.4 with Display Stream Compression 1.2 certified cable along with a video card that supports its? would that fix the bandwidth issue at 175Hz? Please let me know if that address the issue you mentioned. Thanks!
Thank you very much for your review. I upgraded my Dell AW3418DW with an ASUS ROG Terminal so I can have the same RGB video synced backlight effect. Sadly it is also very delayed and laggy. Hopefully we will get one day a monitor which syncs the backlight via hardware. It would be one good reason to get a G-Sync monitor.
Still have my aw3418dw I only paid $350 on letgo app so hard to justify a newer ultrawide would cost wayyyy more
THanks for your video, I'm looking for a monitor and I thing I will go with this. However I have a question. Are u connecting your Macbook pro to this monitor? If so, how you do it? Adapter? Thanks
Would you choose the LG over the rog pg35vq? I know they are both great monitor and I am struggling to choose one betweem the two.
Same here
choose this one
how much did they improve the 38GL950G-B over the normal 38GL950G?
Please tell me the 34gn850-b is better and solve all of your disapoints 🙏
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I think it will be great if you can compare this vs LG CX48 OLED. They are about the same price, and I'm sure many viewers are interested.
Can you please clarify/update us on the YCbCr422 after standby? Some of the pages you showed in your video are actually from nVidia driver forums. Do you have more information as two why it is one or the other?
Bro, I need help. I can’t decide between the LG 38gl950 or The Asus ROG PG35VQ. What do you think dude? Please?
I have the 38GN850-B and the LED-Strip on the back is still the same. Sad to pay for this feature and have to turn it off immediately.
Would you advise I got with this LG? $1599 at Costco. Or the new Alienware 38 inch ?
Needing a fan in the back to keep it cool (which fans if not dusted get loud over time) and sleep issues are my reasons for not buying one. For someone just gaming then turning off, makes sense, but I need it to use for work, research, and then for some fun. Can't afford down time when I need it for work. SupUsr Stan good review.
I hate the small text on these wide screens with high resolutions - didn't know that the hz effected the text too.
Have any of these issues been fixed with firmware updates since making this video (particularly the last issue mentioned)?
Love how the main issues with this is nothing like what you get with others... power issues where the monitor won't wake up, clouding etc
just started having power issues... i have to remove the power cable and plug back in so that it turns on
@@JustNel that's the issue I had with the Samsung.
On the brink to buy a new monitor and pc . I want to game on 4K / 144hz Monitor with the 3080 card . There are 3 options for me . Is this one but the 27” , Acer Predator or Acer predator x27 or ASUS ROG Swift PG27UQ . What would you suggest I should buy ?
from those 3 the LG in my opinion is the obvious winner as it has 10bit color while the other two have 8bit and also it has faster response time 1ms while the other two have 4ms.
One thing better that they have is hdr, lg has 600 and them have 1000.
How many fps you got on the monitor in FF14, with which CPU and GPU? Much appreciated as I'm building a rig atm.
I have a sub optimal setup for gaming but I manage to pull about 90fps average on a Threadripper 3960X and a 1080Ti. You can do much better if your system is dedicated for gaming imo.
SuprUsr Stan Thank you for your input! I now have a general idea what I can expect at this resolution.
what is this sleep problem with all LG products? I bought LG speakers recently (Z537) and if they don't get a sound signal from the computer for a few minutes they automatically go to sleep. they come back after I start playing something but it takes few seconds, and those few seconds they are completely silent and it's so freakin annoying. there is no option or software to turn it off either....
Maybe it’s just me, but the 8 and 10 bit difference was very noticeable, at least on my c9 oled
Hello...Can you tell me if you have to be running specific resolutions to get the higher refresh rates to work with gsync?
There's a patent on the "ambilight effect" owned by philips iirc, i'm not sure LG can implement some kind of hardware embeded into the monitor to project led to the backwall, they would be infringing Philips patent
Just a heads up, there is a G-SYNC indicator option in the Nvidia Control Panel, under the "Display" tab on top. ( I think it only appears if you turn on G-sync for both Fullscreen and Windowed). Hope it helps with your FPS counter problem.
Thanks, friend! Cool bits to keep in mind! 0_O
lol you really have to come to these smaller channels to make a decision
Really enjoy the informational clarity of your videos brother - much appreciated
I am going to buy this monitor. If these are the most annoying things, this monitor seems right for me.
Love your videos....have you seen Samsung's newest gaming monitor Odyssey G9? I think I will be picking one up...
No you won't. Got discontinued almost immediately.
@@skippychurch2965 Yeah, no kidding...the comment was made 2 weeks ago Detective!
Is it possible to lower the resolution and still use the 160hz mode? in some games i want to maximise the fps, at the cost of resolution
Would appreciate it a lot if they through every the useless features like delayed backlight or refresh rate overclocking that yields a stupid bad picture and make it a more reasonable price wise.
I'm super stoked for a fast 38" at some point. My number one thing on this would have been the moderate contrast ratio.. But also, I had no idea about the Sphere Lighting needing software, that sucks. I was really interested in the ambient effect. I had no idea that it wouldn't be a hardware feature. What a let down. Considering that they key aesthetic is kind of a bust, I would have the X38 hands down, for a SIMILAR price.. I have an older Acer 34", Freesync monitor and I love grown up the look and the stand.. But if they try to charge $500+ more than LG, they are out of their minds! Almost forgot, LG has a slightly cheaper Vesa Adaptive Sync based model coming, with higher HDR specs to boot. I'm at least waiting for that and you should try to get us some news on it! ;)
Hi. I am a gamer. Just a gamer. Do i see THE difference in color between 160 Hz and 175 Hz? Just gaming?
No.
Is this a good monitor for photo and video editing?
The sleep mode bug is unacceptable. For $1500+ dollars this screen should be close to perfect.
i have one more question. does it support xbox and meanwhile ps5 amd freesync ? in the internet they say it works with amd gpu .. but it says gsync only .. im confused
@SuprUsr Stan, what desk model is that, where did you get it?
IKEA Skogsta Dining Table
do you feel diference between Gsync and Gsny compatible ? PLs honest answer cause it means rly much to me.
Personally, I still prefer G-Sync over Compatible. However, it's probably a placebo effect at this point. Both are plenty good. G-Sync still usually offers a wider VRR range.
has the color profile sleep bug been addressed ?
Does the 4:2:2 after resume problem go away if you disable Deep Sleep? I had to disable that on my Alienware 34" because it actually powers off, and makes all of my windows resize on resume.
That software for the lighting is dumb, for the price point it should have its own chip that measures color averages being displayed on the screen.
has the sleep chroma issue been fixed?
I canceled my AOC cu34g2x after watching all these videos VA panels just dont look anywhere near this good its in my cart and im on the fence about buying this model
What is the reason they do not include usb-c with these "gaming" monitors?
The GSync module doesn’t have USB C as an output. The GN950 non GSync version does have usb c.
What is the highest refresh rate that still works with 10-bit 4:4:4 ?
I was about to purchase this monitor but that last flaw you gave has me worried...too much money to spending on something that doesn't function properly
i would say if you want to buy this monitor go for it, it's the best in it's class, the refresh rate advertising con is the only real con here
the rest is just nitpicking and he wanted to make a top 5 list for the video so it's totally understandable.
Would my 3070 rtx be good enough to run this monitor
So has the 4:2:2 issue been fixed?
Hi. why can't i play counter strike 1.6 in full screen with this monitor?
Has disappointment #1 been addressed?
Also Dell will has this panel. Dell will has AW3821DW.
samsung neo better ?
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Where did you buy your desk?
Is it the newest now?
Does anyone else find that the text fringing/chromatic aberration on this monitor is kind of annoying? It's really bad at 175hz but even at 160 with full RGB it's kind of noticeable. Maybe I'm just OCD
Just a suggestion: I watched the video for 1 minute and 22 seconds and I'm getting eye strain from your blinking eyes and head movements, especially when you wave it constantly left and right. I'm not trying to attack you in any way. It might just be me, but maybe consider moving the camera a bit further, and less head movements.
It's not only you. I completely agree
Can you explain the G-Sync thing again with the FPS counter? You kinda lost me there.
I was thinking to purchasing for work productions, spreadsheets etc. but your last point has me cocened..
How many videos have you been going of the same screen?
I can make another one just for you :)
@@SuprUsrStan Link your other videos in the description :) Then I can go directly to the Top 5 good stuff as well.
Thanks!
Is the colour profile fixed?
is there any light blead on the panel in the corners ? ips glow ?
sure u just didn't get a dud monitor? i checked my settings, paused your screen there on 2:02 and my format says 10bit, and EOTF is HDR all with the 175hz unlocked, the YCbCr422 is the same tho
10bit 175hz 422 is impossible because there’s just not enough bandwidth in the DisplayPort cable to support all those features. That’s why there’s a trade off between those three to stay below the bandwidth limitation.
@@SuprUsrStan yeh that sounds right but I’ll try remind I’ll grab screen shots both the screens osd and nvidia control panel reports 10bit 175hz with the 422, but I copied yours I get full rgb at 160hz