Am I the only one who thought it a big red flag that the mother said Chris had his "dream job' with an office in Yankee stadium, but left it to return to Milwaukee to work at the same company as his mother. I wonder what really happened with that "dream job."
Good point. I wonder if anyone ever says I had a brilliant dream last night, I was working in IT at the Yankee stadium. To which someone replies, dream on, you'll never fly that high
@@sengasenga6856 I absolutely love being able to look at users past comments.. like yourself. You can always tell who lives an absolutely miserable existence by the negative comments they leave. It’s fascinating. Maybe look into some therapy 😊
@@Lightnite12 she partied with her, though, maybe her therapist has helped her see those people she hung out with at time in her life were not truly friends. (i know, that was laying on a bit thick, i dunno)
Agreed! Moms seem to be oblivious to how their sons act and they do nothing but make excuses Face it mom(s) - your sons are awful people and at least part of it is your fault!
It’s sad how the mom of a killer shows no remorse that’s why her son does what he wants because of mothers like her who don’t raise there children to take accountability
Mothers, in general, don't raise their sons "right" in this country. They perpetuate the toxic masculinity. Mother's should be the ones doing the most to raise their boys to respect women and how to treat them. But they don't. Boy's have to leave Mommy's home in order to learn how to be men.
It’s a shame that his mother is still in denial about who her son is. I am glad that Kelly received the justice that she deserved. Rest in peace Kelly. 💗
There is zero actual evidence. None. No DNA, no video, no blood. It's scary how people can be convicted on nothing. Scary for you, scary for your kids if and when you have them.
Had I been on that jury, I would've voted "not guilty", for sure. This is what is called "Prosecution by Character Assassination". When the DA has no Hard Evidence, he unearths every salacious detail in the defendant's life to make them look "Bad Enough" to deserve going to prison, whether or not they actually did the deed at hand. And Naive and Gullible Jurors fall for it quite often. All the claims that he was a "strangler" since age 16 are Pure BS because no charges were ever filed on ANY of them. This trial didn't bring Justice for Kelly. It was more like Urinating on Kelly's Grave. As usual, the Cops framed the "obvious suspect" so that they could hurry up to go eat more Doughnuts, an activity even more important to a Cop than putting the right people in prison.
18:19 His mom is insane … as an IT guy, you are exceptionally aware of the hard drive data storage stuff, there is no way he just took home others hard drive from work without looking into it …
You have never worked in IT, specially some years ago as this happening. For sure, you take the worked to home. Passing data from one hd to another, because you had to have it ready by 8am next day, for example. And on and on. You have no idea
@@marvinbrando722 you may take work home, but because there might be potentially sensitive information in there, you always review what's in there. Otherwise you risk data breaches, illegal activity, and all kinds of other risks. He worked for a major sports team. He had to be careful with the type of information he handled and how it could affect the major organization he worked for. Imagine if the drive stored malware and he connected it to other data systems in the organization. Data security is a major issue for IT staff. I work for a large university, and every employee is required to be trained on how to handle data responsibly, because security breaches or breaches of the law can cause major problems for the whole university and its vast amount of legally protected confidential information.
This is what happens when you make excuses for your son his entire life; when there are no consequences for his appalling behaviour. Her child is a murderer and she’s still lying for him.
That mother helped her “little boy”, she’s cold. These defense lawyers just stop, stop you’re embarrassing yourself. The girlfriend gave away some telling evidence, I’m glad she didn’t lie for him. The police, prosecutors and dog did an awesome job. Thank you 👍🏽👏🏽
I have three sons that I would defend with my life unless god forbid they committed a crime. Then I would grab them by their ear and drag them into the police station myself.
The mothers not in denial! She's an enabler.. she's never given him consequences for his actions as she makes excuses for him! Even a mother knows! This mother knows what he did and still sits and shows no remorse and sits like her son does no wrong! But she knows what he did!
Mom probably helped him dispose of the shower curtain and bathroom accessories including the golf bag, possibly even helped him discard of the body. There’s a reason he went directly to his mothers house. Mom. Would know exactly what to do. I hope detectives searched the moms home too.
I think it's ironic that the defense wants you to believe someone 100% saw this girl in a car at a stop light; yet a canine alerting to a dead body all over his bed, apartment, car, etc...that's inconceivable! 🙄
Or that not being able to see her leave on camera is explained away by must've left some exit that didn't have a camera covering it but then the fact you don't see him leaving with the golf bag is concrete proof that he didn't take her out in the bag so which is it, is it possible to leave the apartment building without being caught on camera or are there "dark spots"
@@renaissance5300 I'm so sorry you are currently dealing with that. I dealt with one for 4yrs and barely made it out alive. Being with a narcissist is the most exhausting thing ever! I wish you the best, just know that you deserve happiness. I don't know your situation, but I feel for you, and I wish you much success in life.
I went to HS with her. We took one class together - American History. I was absolutely horrified when I learned of the news many years ago. May her parents have found peace to live each day without her.
Are people missing the fact that she was captured walking into his apartment but never walking out? Why are his lawyers acting like this footage exists?
I was just scanning the comments to see if anyone noticed that she was never seen exiting the building. I was surprised there was no mention of that right away
That was obvious, it was said in the video, but usually you would leave the same way as you came, as soon as they said there was no evidence of her leaving that way, i thought to myself, he's guilty.
His apartment to elevator to the garage? Didn’t they say that the cameras were malfunctioning when he put the golf bag with her body in the trunk? Why couldn’t they have malfunctioned when she was walking through the garage? Not saying that’s how it happened I think he’s guilty but if the prosecutors can use “cameras malfunctioning” to explain the lack of him with the golf bag couldn’t they have malfunctioned when she was walking through? 🤷♀️
He killed her. His mom can cry all she wants, it’s never easy to come to terms with the fact that you’ve raised a murderer. I understand that. But it doesn’t change that he killed this girl.
@@willnill7946 I hear you.. Humans are however very curious beings and would watch what ever is on there or wipe it clean. a Healthy person won't keep such disgusting things.
@Dee Angi Facts! You ain’t lie about that. And he was soo conceited he thought he had all his basics covered. Turning off his cellphone being untraceable and all. He’s exactly where he belongs.
I cant believe Zocco found 2 girls to ever sleep with him at all, let alone 2 at the same time. Both girls cold have done a lot better. And his mom.......total denial.
Right?? I can see her standing by him thru cheating, but to say "oh he's in IT, that's why he had CP on that hard drive.... they collect stuff! " omg give me a break.
Un Malo:How irrele is that? She did not deserve to die. What exactly is your point.???? What do pedals have to do with anything? Fondled or Not. Are you kidding me?
He was “devastated” that he got caught. It’s unfortunate that his mother is in denial after all the circumstantial evidence presented in the court. The case was closed shut for me when they said she never came out of the apartment and the hits the dog got all over the apartment.
I love how much the defense hangs their argument on “there’s no DNA evidence, there’s no eye witness”. How do people think crimes were solved back BEFORE DNA, video surveillance, gps? Leg work, deduction, intuition.
I would stay off or don’t use any of those dating apps it’s not worth it i meet people through mutual friends or friend of a friend or social functions something that’s safer I don’t know why people use online dating to begin with also people have to be careful on instagram
I have followed this case all along. This guy did this and don't think it hasn't happened again. There are a crap ton of lunatics out there. Stay the heck away from those dating websites, too! ...Unless you have a way to know for sure that the person you are meeting is NOT in another relationship, or is NOT in the middle of a psychotic break. Mental health problems are rampant, especially these days.
@@msalicat1 I know, but she was also dating a lot and was so busy enjoying herself that you can't tell me she wasn't looking for a "really good guy"... He was a wolf in sheep's clothing. At that age, it is so easy to just look at the wrapper and assume that the junk food inside is healthy for you. ... ya know what I mean..? Also, I slightly edited my comment. This beautiful soul didn't deserve anything bad to happen to her. She seemed to just want to be able to enjoy life.
The red light for me is the cocaine. So played down by all but in my experience, bad thoughts and deeds are so easy to do when indulging in the white stuff. If you are already a narcissist it will certainly enhance an already incomparable ego. The marujana is always emphasised in these investigations, but unless it is the rubbish sprinkled with who knows what chemicals, I would challenge anyone to say they were in a mental and physical state to be evil after a few puffs. His interest in evil was enhanced by cocaine and hey presto!
I'm really surprised these website's haven't been shut down given all the criminal behavior. Let's get back to meeting in church with friendly faces or meeting through family's ect.. Nothing's perfect but it's got to be better than this. These websites are definitely too secretive!
It isn't surprising though. My mom would never admit she thought my bro had done that, even if she did... I mean, she'd rat me out in a second but not the baby boy. 😂😂
I am a mother of three. I know pretty much anybody is capable of anything. If I truly suspected my child of killing someone, I would not hide them or shield them. I would turn them in. Would I support them while justice is exacted? Yes. Would I still love them? Probably. If it was something truly horrific, especially hurting a child in any form, I do not know what my feelings would be. I can only imagine how my reactions in this type of situation would be because I've never been through it, but I hope nothing like this ever happens to my family. I think it takes a level of mental illness to commit any crime that irrevocably hurts someone or causes a loss of life, so I would want my child to do serve their time and get mental help. That's what being a parent is... wanting the best for your child, helping them find their way, helping them become healthier. Sometimes becoming healthier hurts. It sucks. But as a parent, I know it would not *help* my child to keep a secret about them committing a crime.
I'm glad they found him guilty. There is definitely enough circumstantial evidence against him. The prosecution did an excellent job trying this case. Rip Kelly
That mother is for sure covering up important pieces of evidence from the police, she knows what her son did. If he took the sport equipment to her house, he probably took the golf bag, but disposed of it later on. I have no doubt he killed Kelly, it’s clear as day for me. Rip, young lady 😢
The footage of them walking into his place is haunting. It seems innocent at first. She's bubbly, and chatty, and looking forward to a fun night. Watching it back he seems to be in a hurry to get back (walking out in front of her) and get started with his depravity. Sick and sad...
Sometimes dumb women fall for what men have, security, He was a provider in everything he had. Mostly women are seeking these kind of men. Then she plays along with the bad stuff he was doing and she fell into his trap. Rip Kelly
@@vanessa12342able It happens too many times........ I can't wait till I hear stories where the woman turns the tables on her attacker. I cannot listen to a whole show of these because it's too sad and gross.
@@vanessa12342able so true.... Be careful folks.. set boundaries for yourself and whau you'll allow. Stick to it. Not blaming Kelly at all. Just touched because I see a lot of my young single self in her
I love the victim blaming attempted by the defence. 'She was on DATING sites! Anyone could have killed her! She dated *multiple* men. This was always going to end badly.' As if all dating sites are full of predators, and women are asking for it if they use online dating platforms... meanwhile, the defendant IS a predator, using all these platforms.. sleeping with multiple women.. but he's innocent? Which is it? The attempts to smear her character for enjoying her sexuality is absolutely disgusting. These guys really do want women to stay at home and marry their 1st cousin.
Why are you saying victim blaming ? These are facts , not net opinions . Do you know the difference. For every person with an IQ of 120 there is an IQ of 80.
Sidenote: It's so strange that her friend who she went out with a few times a week would describe her as "an acquaintance". If that's an acquaintance, then most of us don't have friends.
That bothered me so much, I felt like her yoga teacher was a better friend than that acquaintance...she is a very cold person. I can see her referring to her children as her offspring.
Stories like these are one of the main reasons I didn’t party as a kid and don’t frequent bars and parties as an adult. Too many sick people out there and anyone can become a victim. It’s so freaking sad.
@hughjaanus6680 Because I don’t goto party’s and bars I must be lonely and living in a basement? 😂😂 are you projecting? I’m sorry if your life sucks. I hope it gets better.
I think that he killed her by accident. Some people like to be strangled because it can bring sex onto different level (for both, depending on what they are into). And because they found pictures of her previously being strangled, I think he just didn’t stop in time and she died. Then he panicked and tried to hide it. Doesn’t make it excusable though.
@@sirvilhelmofyonderland That is a sick comment. There's is no way of knowing what she did in that apartment that night, except what Chris stated that he liked to do cocaine and have sex. He used the drugs to pull off his perverse sexual fantasies! The feeling of pain or fear are diminished by drugs, allowing his dangerous behavior.
I noticed that, too. His distance correlates with his attitude that the relationship was really casual. Walking ahead and leaving your date behind is not typically what you do with a date, especially when you're bringing them back to your place and you're the host.
Confirmation bias. You all see some guy “walking ahead” but fail to notice him opening doors for her and pushing elevator buttons. Or that they’re engaged in conversation the entire time.
@@hellzbellz79.1 didn't they say cameras were only in certain places? That is more reliable than what they said when they said they never saw a body leave but also makes me wonder what parts didn't have cameras to where they'd think maybe she left. I do believe maybe he killed her by accident in sex but he sure didn't act like it if he went and hid the body. The whole story is really confusing because she always came back to him.
@@centertonarkansastyrantpatrol Whether she returned to seeing him or not is not in question. Drug use (cocaine) has a way of affecting one's perception of an event masking pain or fear of a dangerous or scarey situation. Sometimes there is a limited memory of detail. What is sick is that Chris filmed Kelley in a the course of the sex act, and her lying there in an unconscious state having trouble breathing. That is sick. Unfortunately it has been proven that many women return to partners who are physically abusive and end up dead.
Thanks for showing a full episode! I have no doubt he killed her... Even before they traced his strange behavior after her disappearance.... So there's no doubt they prosecuted and locked up the right guy...
It's sad that the only person who participated in this FOR Kelly was a woman who self-identified as an "acquaintance", not even a friend. ETA: and her Yoga dude.
I just started watching & instantly as soon as her “acquaintance” introduced herself that way and then began speaking I immediately found it odd. If I’m hanging out with someone multiple times a week to “touch base” or whatever you wanna call it, we’re close friends. Period. I don’t even get to see my actual best friend that much now that adult lives include families and long work hours. She just seemed cold stating their *friendship* that way imo. I’m already sad to see your comment stating she’s the only one that even participated 😢 I have to agree with you, that is very unfortunate & kind of heartbreaking honestly
Don't forget Mr. Fabulous yoga instructor! He couldn't wait to get his 15 minutes! I couldn't help but laugh when they showed him doing poses. I could almost hear it...Them: "ok, thank you Mr. Yoga man, that's a wrap." Him: "If you want, I could do a few poses for your B-Roll!" Them: "Whatever...Make it quick."🤣
I dated a couple of women who liked to engage in this type of behavior and I stopped seeing them. It creeped me out. Not sure why she kept seeing him after he had done this to her before. And no, I'm not saying it's her fault, but she had some idea of the danger of this behavior if she had engaged in it multiple times and had passed out from it before.
Well, whose fault is it that she kept happily going back for more? Destructive behavior like that will eventually catch up. I also (had?) a friend like that. Dating many ppl at a time, very shady, meeting up at stranger's houses for btm type sex and other stuff. She told me it was "safe". She's been missing now for 6 years. Unfortunately I don't think I'll ever see her again, but that's what happens in such cases.
@@jenniferbarry6330 i honestly don't know. Her name is Samantha Treecie Williams. She lived in Cali, Urah, and in Carolina (don't remember which one). She had like strawberry blonde hair, around 34-35 years old, very obese. She had a facebook page, but not anymore. On top of this dangerous lifestyle she had a new druggie boyfriend. I don't know where she is, but Im overseas and cant really do much. So, I honestly dont know what happened.
I met a guy on a dating app. He was a doctor which I verified on the hospital website. We were planning to meet then he told me he was very dominant and liked fetish stuff. I was like nope, block lol.
Kelly was too naive for her own good. It's tragic that so many people just don't "get it" how dangerous it is out there. There are nefarious people lurking around every corner. BE AWARE of the dangers, and don't put yourself in harm's way ever.
But it seems like these dating sites are the open portal to danger and they do not really screen people there. I would tell my daughter not to bother with these things and just meet people through other people.
This case is so disturbing. I can’t imagine how awful it must have been for Kelly. I hope her mother and friends have found some comfort. Knowing that her murderer was the “man” she thought she was in love with.
My niece was reprimanded at school & suspended for bullying a girl. When I asked what happened, my sister defended my niece. I was like, wow- u sound like those parents who refuse to believe ur kid isn’t this sweet, perfect human. I know ppl will say I’m “victim blaming,” but I’m not. If u see a lot of these cases that aren’t random, there’s so many signs. There’s so many things that the victims do that don’t protect their personal safety & put themselves in positions like this. I mean- coke, weed, alcohol, pills plus being with a dude who chokes u hard. There was the other girl, who had 4 kids by 22 who went out with her friends literally a month after giving birth-who had a DUI, & got into a fight with her friends bc they wanted to leave but she wanted to keep partying. She left with strange men. They went to an apartment. Those young men eventually wanted to go but she wanted to keep partying with the guy in the apt. They left her. She’s dead now. I can name sooo many cases that involve the choices these girls made & even guys. Not victim shaming but I hope women/young girls see these things & learn
@@gigiis526 Yes...that does too. Even though..in my response...I had that lady with 4 kids in mind. She couldn't have thought clearly..unless there had been fire to unsnap that foggy mind. So unnecessary..how she had died..Bad choices..indeed!!
They really should film cadaver dogs every time they are deployed with their handlers alongside law enforcement for solid proof instead of relying solely on verbal testimony about what the dog alerted on. We don't want Molly's hard work to go to waste. Hope Kelly's family and Zocco's mother are doing ok.
@@hlaback They did not in this case. But I agree with the OP, they should have. There shouldn't be anything to hide and leave unnecessary doubt or suspicion.
You are allowed to have sex, use drugs & drink. You should try to be aware of the dangers associated with those things, but most importantly, have at least 1 person in your life that you can tell things to. If you meet a man who seems great & turns out to be terrible, don't be ashamed or embarrassed, that experience isn't because you were stupid, its because that man is a scumbag. Keep yourself as safe as possible.
Many of my friends who are single will send me a name, address, picture etc if they are having a secret rendezvous so at least somebody knows where they're at if they don't show up the next day after a first date. In fact I had told some of them before like smartphones when they went somewhere like that to leave a name address and all that inside the vehicle when they left their vehicle.
It’s easier for people to live in denial than it is to face cold hard facts.. Denial is probably where she’s gonna stay publicly; but I guarantee privately; she’ll eventually if not already admit the truth to herself. Then again some people just can’t go there..
@jemika bates - The last time I read so many words strung together to say absolutely nothing, was reading the closed captioning to Joe Biden's last speech!
I live in Milwaukee and am VERY familiar with this case and some of the people surrounding it, the yoga instructor is like that kid who sat next to you in some highschool class then when you become a big film star he tells everyone how he knew you personally and how you two were just the best of friends. He did know her, they did talk but he was in no way what so ever a part of her personal life nor did he know any personal details of her prior to all the news coverage about her and her family interviews.
They probably just wanted to interview in her corner. Sad the only other one was a self-described “acquaintance” who hung out with her several times a week.
Why do women tolerate that type of sadistic sex from men? Why do they think that is what they deserve? I will never understand. Such a sad case. Rip Kelly.
My thoughts exactly. They get beat, bruised, pass out of suffocating through violent sex...happily come back for more. Destructive behavior will eventually catch up to you.
@Sakura Robloxova so very true. She didn't deserve the situation. I don't know why she kept going back. Sex makes you stupid and cocaine makes you paranoid
How is it that not one of her coworkers, yoga friends, family members came on to speak for her. Instead we get a fame-hungry yoga teacher and a bar “acquaintance” who provide little detail on what she was like as a person. Seriously not even ONE person could come on who actually knew her?
@@enigmaticbeing7796 Kelly’s relatives embarrassed of what had been revealed about her life. That why they did not participate in the documentary. Be as it is her family deserves some privacy and respect.
This is truly sad. I think about the lack of sound judgement and naiveness I had as a twenty-something woman trying to find my way in addition to seeking potential mates and realize her tragic story could have been anybody’s. Now I’m thirty-something and relish in being a single, independent woman. You just never know who you don’t know fully until something like this unfolds.
Yes but also...those sites dating sites meeting / picking up people are dangerous..What happend to Romance and Real Dating ? These creeps...it's one big sweet shop for them ..and girls ..thinking this is the way to live...Multiple pick ups...then drugs...it's one big disaster...You won't find Love that Way .The Whole brainwashing of youth is so sad...The Awful Bs who created this System of throw away dating...and made their Millions from it...raped and dead bodies litter the floor...
@@mamasshrimp422 He's an average or below-average guy that women ignore. That's what he means by "life sucks." All women seek the top 20 percent of eligible men based on income and status. Ignoring below average males who are sex starved as a result . This is the undoing of the middle class. Designed by globalists to bring down the power of the western countries.
Thanks to all of you who posted what happened, I always pop in to look at the comments 1st because I can't do the ones that are not solved. The second I saw she got justice I stopped reading but I do appreciate it!
Agreed; I don't know how they live with themselves. And I also wonder if - in a case like this specifically - they would honestly want their daughter dating their "innocent" client. SMH
Man, dating websites are terrifying. You gotta meet them somewhere away from home, not use your real name. Or just don't chance it. Better to find a community where you can meet people and everyone knows them, and can vouch for them, or not. Being a woman means you are potentially prey. It's so unfair and terrifying.
I met my hubs through a real friend. He convinced me not to use dating sites. It was the same thing all the time. This was over 15 years ago and it seems like this stuff has gotten so much worse! I don't think it is worth the risk. People do meet one another through friends or just socials in church.
Almost every couple I know met on tinder. It's not as creepy as people think. I think it's as dangerous as meeting someone in a bar or club. A real first date should of course always be in public and at daytime.
@@johanna2690 Women make poor decisions and rather than blame themselves, they need to find another object to blame. In the old days it was horoscope signs, or the location, etc. Today it's which dating app. It only serves to highlight the irrationality of women. Newsflash, the same people that are working at your office, or going to your local grocery store are the same people that are on "tinder", "hinge", etc. Women can't seem to grasp that.
There’s a bunch of cases of people who met via friends, got married 30 years later they realized their partners were just serial killers. Dating sites per se are not the issue. We should learn tho, how to identify some red flags and have a good support system and group of people who can be with us us if anything happens. Being alienated is the worst. Just living is a risk to be honest
The defense paid a homeless guy to say he saw her. They are dead inside and insufferable at best. Watching their cold empty eyes as they plead his case made me ill. Special place for those people. His mom is awful as well. Sad story.
@@nachoman408 It doesn't HAVE to be their job ... they chose this career field. And they can leave it if they have a conscience and can't look themselves in the mirror the next day.
I went to school with a different Kelly Dewyer whom was also killed by her boyfriend as well. She was so outgoing ,funny , amazing athlete. Her boyfriend played college football and claimed that they were wrestling horse playing and she hit her head. He did a couple years for assault I believe . I was just out of school and don’t remember exactly but I remember reading his shocking sentence in the paper .
I like how the defense attorneys are like 'yes we believe this random old man that he saw her when she was still alive at a stoplight but not the cop talking about her dog alerting to decomposing remains in suspect's apt'
Some old homeless drunkard they dragged up off the street, gave him something to eat at KFC and ask him to appear in court to help them win the case. But it didn't work.
The man who thinks he saw her could very well be wrong. Seriously I once saw a woman who looked so much like me if I hadn’t been me I would have thought it was me! Seriously very strange experience but I experienced it.
I am on a dating site call Badoo...I have a lot of men liking me...But I'm very skeptic... Watching channels like this keeps me informed and awareness of the dangers out there... The people you most trusted are the ones who can make you disappear forever..
GIRL plz be super careful out there while being on these apps if your gone to still date ( that's your decision) just plz plz take all precautions & make sure u check into all the men's background before making arrangements...Anyways have a wonderful weekend & enjoy u day much love to ya & still have fun just be aware of all u surroundings that's all stay blessed 🙏🥳🧡💜💙💚❤!!
That’s OK just look at the amount of husbands and/or wives killing each other over little insurance policies, Chasing after flights of fancy, are cheating and don’t want to take the easy way out instead of say …a divorce or break up… in the words of my mother “get another cat“.
@@armcollector5856 why I am extremely careful...I have blocked a lot of them cause they are mainly into having sex....Others are looking for a side chick with wife and kids at home...Why I am not purely depending on the site to find someone...There are a lot of creepy evil going on in our world today...It plants fear in ones soul...So watching these shows keeps me alarm at the risks out there... Thank you for the blessings...Have a safe and blessed weekend,to you and family..🙏🏾🙋🏾💕🌅
This episode reminds me of the horror of ending up as a subject on 48 HRS. KELLEY DWYER should serve as a warning to young women of the risks of becoming a victim of these online creeps.
Anyway the advice still applies. these yuppies and their dating sites athletic retail stores city condos and yoga mats are shallow. An exception might be the yoga school flamer. He was sincerely concerned about the young lady and her whereabouts.
They said the dog signaled on the trash chute door. He could have slid the golf bag containing her body down the chute into the dumpster, then parked alongside the dumpster, out of sight of the cameras, to place it in his trunk. The other “athletic” bags obviously contained evidence, such as the shower curtain, towels, rug, cleaning supplies, etc. The cheese shop run was a clear ruse, and buying new shoes was suspicious. She died during dangerous sex, and he panicked. But he robbed her family of answers and closure for many years, just to save his own hide. A perverted coward.
That cheese was no alibi. He bought it to “cover” the smell in the car. He’d claim that he had forgotten about it and it was just left in car, for God knows how long.
How these "defense attorneys" sleep at night is beyond me. They should be ashamed of themselves for trying to explain away the obvious...SMH And his mother is the primary evidence of why he was nurtured into a psychopathic narcissist.
it's their job. There's mountains of cases where the government insisted some guy was guilty and convinced a jury of it, before they were cleared with DNA evidence. We can't have a justice system where we just accept what the government says. It's a constitutional right that you can pay to have someone advocate for you by giving the best possible defense on your behalf in court.
You wouldn't be saying that if they were defending you. Do you think that every person who the police arrest and even get convicted by juries are guilty? The Innocence Project exists for a reason. There are several troubling problems with this case, and people like you who take what cops says and let them do all the thinking for you are part of the problem.
100 percent. I realize they make great money but I don’t care how much I made I could never live with myself knowing I was working hard to free evil murderers.
Everyone is entitled to a defence. That's a part of justice. The defence attorneys are actually upholding the law for everyone and should be respected for that.
“To conduct a sniff”😂 I’ve never heard this specialist phrase before… What a clever pup Molly is. The animals that live life beside us are true assets!
He put her in the bag and dropped it off the balcony, drove around to the side of the building to retrieve it and threw it in the trunk. Then drove the car back into the garage, pretended nothing happened. I'm not sure if physics would back that up depending on what floor he lived on? I suppose high enough would cause the bag to burst and that would be extremely messy so unlikely idk
That's what I think as well I mean a living breathing healthy woman walks into u condo & she is not seen coming out I mean what else could've happend? Also I was wondering if they had cameras on the outside of that condo ( they had to of u would think ) bc wonder if they checked them out at all just a thought? Anyways have a wonderful weekend & stay safe out there sending love & peace to u 💚💙❤💜💕💗💓🙏✌!!
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Am I the only one who thought it a big red flag that the mother said Chris had his "dream job' with an office in Yankee stadium, but left it to return to Milwaukee to work at the same company as his mother. I wonder what really happened with that "dream job."
Here I thought it was at the company Kelly worked at. That does seem weird.
Interesting point, which is on point with everything else with this dude.
Good point. I wonder if anyone ever says I had a brilliant dream last night, I was working in IT at the Yankee stadium. To which someone replies, dream on, you'll never fly that high
Yes IMMEDIATELY
Something to do with the economic crash? Maybe there was no job any longer.
It’s almost unbearable listening to his mom talk. Ma’am your son is a MONSTER and you’re making excuses for him.
Like Chris Watts mom...
Not as bad as listening to that DA
So is your comment.
@@sengasenga6856 so is your comment what? Spit it out
@@sengasenga6856 I absolutely love being able to look at users past comments.. like yourself. You can always tell who lives an absolutely miserable existence by the negative comments they leave. It’s fascinating. Maybe look into some therapy 😊
I think it's great the other girlfriend was so helpful. She really made a difference in the case and the info she had was interesting.
Molly too
Hell hath no fury like…
I found it odd that the 1st young lady called Kelly, an acquaintance after hanging out w. her 2 to 3 times per week.
Same. Wouldn't that make them friends??? @@Lightnite12
@@Lightnite12 she partied with her, though, maybe her therapist has helped her see those people she hung out with at time in her life were not truly friends. (i know, that was laying on a bit thick, i dunno)
What is it with these toxic mothers that refuse to face the truth about their sons. I’ve seen this in so many cases.
Where is the father to provide some brains and logic and discipline to the thinking and behavior of both the mother and son?
Agreed! Moms seem to be oblivious to how their sons act and they do nothing but make excuses
Face it mom(s) - your sons are awful people and at least part of it is your fault!
@@caligamer5364 it's called mother's love,
@@ohukwh606hgghkagree.
Id like to see you when youll become a mother..
It’s sad how the mom of a killer shows no remorse that’s why her son does what he wants because of mothers like her who don’t raise there children to take accountability
And I'm sure the child p0rn that was found in his apartment wasn't his either. Mommy Dearest is in total denial.
@@Janadu Yep. Mom said he didn't know it was there lol
An IT guy? Doubt that
Mothers, in general, don't raise their sons "right" in this country. They perpetuate the toxic masculinity. Mother's should be the ones doing the most to raise their boys to respect women and how to treat them. But they don't. Boy's have to leave Mommy's home in order to learn how to be men.
Yea I agree. These mommies w issues idealizing their sons.
The same way the defense team makes excuses for him.
Sick stuff.
She showed remorse... for her son, the killer. Gosh, wonder where he got his sense of entitlement..?🤔
It’s a shame that his mother is still in denial about who her son is. I am glad that Kelly received the justice that she deserved. Rest in peace Kelly. 💗
There is zero actual evidence. None. No DNA, no video, no blood.
It's scary how people can be convicted on nothing.
Scary for you, scary for your kids if and when you have them.
Yup
Had I been on that jury, I would've voted "not guilty", for sure. This is what is called "Prosecution by Character Assassination". When the DA has no Hard Evidence, he unearths every salacious detail in the defendant's life to make them look "Bad Enough" to deserve going to prison, whether or not they actually did the deed at hand. And Naive and Gullible Jurors fall for it quite often. All the claims that he was a "strangler" since age 16 are Pure BS because no charges were ever filed on ANY of them. This trial didn't bring Justice for Kelly. It was more like Urinating on Kelly's Grave. As usual, the Cops framed the "obvious suspect" so that they could hurry up to go eat more Doughnuts, an activity even more important to a Cop than putting the right people in prison.
@@ArtCurator2020 wow well we’re all sure glad you weren’t a juror, now aren’t we ?
@@ArtCurator2020good thing you weren’t 😂
18:19 His mom is insane … as an IT guy, you are exceptionally aware of the hard drive data storage stuff, there is no way he just took home others hard drive from work without looking into it …
You have never worked in IT, specially some years ago as this happening. For sure, you take the worked to home. Passing data from one hd to another, because you had to have it ready by 8am next day, for example. And on and on.
You have no idea
@@marvinbrando722 you may take work home, but because there might be potentially sensitive information in there, you always review what's in there. Otherwise you risk data breaches, illegal activity, and all kinds of other risks. He worked for a major sports team. He had to be careful with the type of information he handled and how it could affect the major organization he worked for. Imagine if the drive stored malware and he connected it to other data systems in the organization. Data security is a major issue for IT staff. I work for a large university, and every employee is required to be trained on how to handle data responsibly, because security breaches or breaches of the law can cause major problems for the whole university and its vast amount of legally protected confidential information.
Exactly. He was CIO too
I work in IT and I do this all the time lmao
@@Not_Always😂 but not always?
This is what happens when you make excuses for your son his entire life; when there are no consequences for his appalling behaviour. Her child is a murderer and she’s still lying for him.
This is so true!!!!
Like Chris Watt's mother
This is what also happens when you dont teach your daughters to make good choices 😊 it takes 2 to tango
@@edwardcashh924 not the time or place, Edward. Not the time nor place.
@@JW-vd4il get over it
That mother helped her “little boy”, she’s cold. These defense lawyers just stop, stop you’re embarrassing yourself. The girlfriend gave away some telling evidence, I’m glad she didn’t lie for him. The police, prosecutors and dog did an awesome job. Thank you 👍🏽👏🏽
Yeah those defense attorneys were honestly laughable. So embarrassing.
Yes, I was surprised that this time the gf was honest and told it like it was. Good job. She probably saved her own life.
The dog is a hero! 🥺
S/o to the dog
I have three sons that I would defend with my life unless god forbid they committed a crime. Then I would grab them by their ear and drag them into the police station myself.
The mothers not in denial! She's an enabler.. she's never given him consequences for his actions as she makes excuses for him! Even a mother knows! This mother knows what he did and still sits and shows no remorse and sits like her son does no wrong! But she knows what he did!
Enabler:; I agree more😢
The quintessential " he's a good boy " that lots of mothers hold to re; nefarious bad boys
Enablers are often in denial. Anyway I don’t hate the mom for honoring natural bonds of humanity. I resent him for failing to.
What you described is denial
The interview with mom explains exactly why he turned out the way he did
Absolutely true….mom part of the problem
In half these murders other than crime of passion, once you see the parents it always explains a lot smh
Give Kelly some credit she was smart enough to return to the dude she clearly liked whatever was bringing her back.
Mom probably helped him dispose of the shower curtain and bathroom accessories including the golf bag, possibly even helped him discard of the body. There’s a reason he went directly to his mothers house. Mom. Would know exactly what to do. I hope detectives searched the moms home too.
@@terezobert2101 Opinions vary.
I think it's ironic that the defense wants you to believe someone 100% saw this girl in a car at a stop light; yet a canine alerting to a dead body all over his bed, apartment, car, etc...that's inconceivable! 🙄
I hear you.
Or that not being able to see her leave on camera is explained away by must've left some exit that didn't have a camera covering it but then the fact you don't see him leaving with the golf bag is concrete proof that he didn't take her out in the bag so which is it, is it possible to leave the apartment building without being caught on camera or are there "dark spots"
Exactly!
What's new the police dropped the Ball again 🤔
It's how the jury system works. It's about 'winning'.
He’s a narc and mom’s golden child. She’ll never accept that her charming little man-child would do something awful.
Exactly!! That's why he is how he is.
@k s I married one
@@renaissance5300 I'm so sorry you are currently dealing with that. I dealt with one for 4yrs and barely made it out alive. Being with a narcissist is the most exhausting thing ever! I wish you the best, just know that you deserve happiness. I don't know your situation, but I feel for you, and I wish you much success in life.
Yep.. liers are good at play games...
@@saraa1741 me 24 years...put up with lies from day one..lost my life almost..
I went to HS with her. We took one class together - American History. I was absolutely horrified when I learned of the news many years ago. May her parents have found peace to live each day without her.
🙏🏽
Yes..he was not trusting and believing him was her mistake.
OMG Gigi, you haven’t aged one bit, hope your doing well.
It's so sad .😞
@@rubey2649 high school reunion here, bitter sweet
Are people missing the fact that she was captured walking into his apartment but never walking out? Why are his lawyers acting like this footage exists?
I was just scanning the comments to see if anyone noticed that she was never seen exiting the building. I was surprised there was no mention of that right away
That’s the job of a DEFENSE lawyer
That was obvious, it was said in the video, but usually you would leave the same way as you came, as soon as they said there was no evidence of her leaving that way, i thought to myself, he's guilty.
It's their job
His apartment to elevator to the garage? Didn’t they say that the cameras were malfunctioning when he put the golf bag with her body in the trunk? Why couldn’t they have malfunctioned when she was walking through the garage? Not saying that’s how it happened I think he’s guilty but if the prosecutors can use “cameras malfunctioning” to explain the lack of him with the golf bag couldn’t they have malfunctioned when she was walking through? 🤷♀️
He killed her. His mom can cry all she wants, it’s never easy to come to terms with the fact that you’ve raised a murderer. I understand that. But it doesn’t change that he killed this girl.
That mother was making every excuse up for her son. It’s obviously the way she raised him is how he came out to be. R.I.P to the young lady!! 😢
The hard drive thing is actually pretty plausible. People buy hard drives all the time used, as they are expensive. Now we have the clouds
Indeed!!
@@willnill7946 I hear you.. Humans are however very curious beings and would watch what ever is on there or wipe it clean. a Healthy person won't keep such disgusting things.
Exactly.
@Dee Angi Facts! You ain’t lie about that. And he was soo conceited he thought he had all his basics covered. Turning off his cellphone being untraceable and all. He’s exactly where he belongs.
I cant believe Zocco found 2 girls to ever sleep with him at all, let alone 2 at the same time. Both girls cold have done a lot better. And his mom.......total denial.
Different strokes for different folks.
Money bad boy and cocaine attracts many women. Nice guys, um well and average income. You’ll be waiting alone for a text.
😂😂😂
Yes two very insecure woman!
Everyone is in denial that there'd no evidence of him moving any body lol. But he is a child predator.
The smug smile on his mother’s face the whole time almost makes her less tolerable than him.
Agree with you! That hidden smile and no remorse about a dead person just baffles me
The "boyfriend" isn't the choir boy his mom thinks he is. RIP Kelly.
She has no comment on her son’s long term girlfriend, or the fact he was two timing two or more women.
Right?? I can see her standing by him thru cheating, but to say "oh he's in IT, that's why he had CP on that hard drive.... they collect stuff! " omg give me a break.
And Kelly was not an innocent little flower that had yet to have her petals fondled!
Un Malo:How irrele is that? She did not deserve to die. What exactly is your point.???? What do pedals have to do with anything? Fondled or Not. Are you kidding me?
She definitely didn't deserve to have her petals fondled by asphyxiation boy
He was “devastated” that he got caught. It’s unfortunate that his mother is in denial after all the circumstantial evidence presented in the court. The case was closed shut for me when they said she never came out of the apartment and the hits the dog got all over the apartment.
Bang on. That's the only reason and surely that weird mom of his deep down knows that.
mother stands for comfort
The mother is delusional, but I get that! No one thinks their own child could be a monster!
RIP Kelly! You didn't deserve this!
Rite so easy to make someone a monster and lie on them
There are parents, both mothers & fathers, who are honest & rational enough to see the truth & turn them in.
But she is a monster herself, you can see she is lying when replying to some of the questions.
@@nillyk5671 Yeah...she was very cringe to watch...I had to skip through most of her talking LOL
My focus was on his mother too. She knew from day one that her son did it.
Molly is great. Dogs are amazing. Love them❤
I love how much the defense hangs their argument on “there’s no DNA evidence, there’s no eye witness”. How do people think crimes were solved back BEFORE DNA, video surveillance, gps? Leg work, deduction, intuition.
Yeah, they’re like “pics or it didn’t happen.” RIDICULOUS 🙄
Right!
They didn't even believe the dog. They were embarrassing.
With...evidence, which seemed to be severely lacking in this case.
@@tinahochstetler2189 You can't cross examine a dog. I don't know why that is even permissible as evidence.
Whelp, time to delete my dating apps again. I’d rather be alone forever than murdered.
I would stay off or don’t use any of those dating apps it’s not worth it i meet people through mutual friends or friend of a friend or social functions something that’s safer I don’t know why people use online dating to begin with also people have to be careful on instagram
Smart move. He has Psycho written across his face and he's not alone
Kelly met him by a mutual friend.
You just made me laugh, but you are quite right.
She didn´t meet him through an app.
I have followed this case all along.
This guy did this and don't think it hasn't happened again.
There are a crap ton of lunatics out there.
Stay the heck away from those dating websites, too!
...Unless you have a way to know for sure that the person you are meeting is NOT in another relationship, or is NOT in the middle of a psychotic break.
Mental health problems are rampant, especially these days.
It said that they met through a mutual friend. They didn’t meet online.
@@msalicat1 I know, but she was also dating a lot and was so busy enjoying herself that you can't tell me she wasn't looking for a "really good guy"...
He was a wolf in sheep's clothing.
At that age, it is so easy to just look at the wrapper and assume that the junk food inside is healthy for you.
... ya know what I mean..?
Also, I slightly edited my comment.
This beautiful soul didn't deserve anything bad to happen to her.
She seemed to just want to be able to enjoy life.
Every time I read a case like this I cuddle a little closer with my cat.
The red light for me is the cocaine. So played down by all but in my experience, bad thoughts and deeds are so easy to do when indulging in the white stuff. If you are already a narcissist it will certainly enhance an already incomparable ego. The marujana is always emphasised in these investigations, but unless it is the rubbish sprinkled with who knows what chemicals, I would challenge anyone to say they were in a mental and physical state to be evil after a few puffs. His interest in evil was enhanced by cocaine and hey presto!
I'm really surprised these website's haven't been shut down given all the criminal behavior. Let's get back to meeting in church with friendly faces or meeting through family's ect.. Nothing's perfect but it's got to be better than this. These websites are definitely too secretive!
Mother says: I do believe him, and then her eye contact goes down.... a mother knows her son like nobody, and it's disgusting her defending him
I noticed that business with the eyes dropping too.
Same here. Immediately looks down.
It isn't surprising though. My mom would never admit she thought my bro had done that, even if she did... I mean, she'd rat me out in a second but not the baby boy. 😂😂
Mom: my sweet boy can do no wrong. I believe it's that kind of attitude that creates a psychopath.
🎯
Just like Chris Watts mom…
Sorry to disappoint, but Zocco isn't a psychopath. Wanna offer an alternative armchair diagnosis? 🙄
@@religiohominilupus5259 yep . Is there such a diagnosis as mummy's boy, that can do no wrong. So goes through life doing what he wants????
sweet child o mine
I am a mother of three. I know pretty much anybody is capable of anything. If I truly suspected my child of killing someone, I would not hide them or shield them. I would turn them in. Would I support them while justice is exacted? Yes. Would I still love them? Probably. If it was something truly horrific, especially hurting a child in any form, I do not know what my feelings would be. I can only imagine how my reactions in this type of situation would be because I've never been through it, but I hope nothing like this ever happens to my family. I think it takes a level of mental illness to commit any crime that irrevocably hurts someone or causes a loss of life, so I would want my child to do serve their time and get mental help. That's what being a parent is... wanting the best for your child, helping them find their way, helping them become healthier. Sometimes becoming healthier hurts. It sucks. But as a parent, I know it would not *help* my child to keep a secret about them committing a crime.
Let us know when you have to make that choice.
@@pamelamorris3148 hahahaha
I wouldn't either. I will turn not a blind eyes I will turn my child in. Evil is evil. There is no short cut.
I’ll turn anyone in because my government god comes first. All hail our master and lord ZOG!
@@Censored4UViaGoogle snitches get stitches and get posted on 48 hours in ditches.
I'm glad they found him guilty. There is definitely enough circumstantial evidence against him. The prosecution did an excellent job trying this case. Rip Kelly
He should be in jail for life for the child ponography alone. I say keep him in jail so he doesnt hurt anyone else.
100%
That mother is for sure covering up important pieces of evidence from the police, she knows what her son did. If he took the sport equipment to her house, he probably took the golf bag, but disposed of it later on. I have no doubt he killed Kelly, it’s clear as day for me. Rip, young lady 😢
and many men say that mothers love....
The footage of them walking into his place is haunting. It seems innocent at first. She's bubbly, and chatty, and looking forward to a fun night. Watching it back he seems to be in a hurry to get back (walking out in front of her) and get started with his depravity. Sick and sad...
haunting. he did seem to be rushing
Sometimes dumb women fall for what men have, security, He was a provider in everything he had. Mostly women are seeking these kind of men. Then she plays along with the bad stuff he was doing and she fell into his trap. Rip Kelly
@@vanessa12342able exactly.
@@vanessa12342able It happens too many times........ I can't wait till I hear stories where the woman turns the tables on her attacker. I cannot listen to a whole show of these because it's too sad and gross.
@@vanessa12342able so true.... Be careful folks.. set boundaries for yourself and whau you'll allow. Stick to it. Not blaming Kelly at all. Just touched because I see a lot of my young single self in her
I love the victim blaming attempted by the defence. 'She was on DATING sites! Anyone could have killed her! She dated *multiple* men. This was always going to end badly.' As if all dating sites are full of predators, and women are asking for it if they use online dating platforms... meanwhile, the defendant IS a predator, using all these platforms.. sleeping with multiple women.. but he's innocent? Which is it? The attempts to smear her character for enjoying her sexuality is absolutely disgusting. These guys really do want women to stay at home and marry their 1st cousin.
Casual hooks ups are always going to have an element of risk. Accept it.
If you’re on dating apps, you’re desperate. Face it
@@jerseytomato100 ooky dookie
Oh please,that's not exploring your sexuality,stop the BS
Why are you saying victim blaming ? These are facts , not net opinions . Do you know the difference.
For every person with an IQ of 120 there is an IQ of 80.
I love the voice of the prosecutor lady, and her look.
@totis1777. Yes, very sexy
Her voice sounds like the actress, Ann Hesh.
Me too.
same here.she is very pretty.looks like mia khalifa
Agree 👍
It’s really disgusting when defense attorneys go to this length to avoid prosecution of a clearly dangerous psychopathic killer.
Defense attorneys have no soul.
They have the right to a lawyer just like you have so everybody can have a fair trial.
Sounds like she snorted up a bunch of his cocaine, and didn’t want to “pay” for it. Yeah, that’s a shame.
@@sirvilhelmofyonderland thats not what it sounds like. thats stupid.
@@ScreamingEagleFTW cocain users use that tactic. It’s very possible,
Sidenote: It's so strange that her friend who she went out with a few times a week would describe her as "an acquaintance".
If that's an acquaintance, then most of us don't have friends.
I was thinking the same thing when she said that!
Why she didn't let her know about her sense something was wrong. But because she was only "an acquaintance " so selfish
That bothered me so much, I felt like her yoga teacher was a better friend than that acquaintance...she is a very cold person. I can see her referring to her children as her offspring.
@@roxanaescobar5645 Right??
@@roxanaescobar5645 she probably led Kelly to the killer 😢
My deepest sympathies to Kelly’s family.
Why do you have sympathy to a girl who was acting like a prostitute
Stories like these are one of the main reasons I didn’t party as a kid and don’t frequent bars and parties as an adult. Too many sick people out there and anyone can become a victim. It’s so freaking sad.
Exactly....
That's nice. Nowadays, you can get mowed down at the grocery store, the movie theater, school... Life is random man
@@stacyjaye6350 I’m more afraid of sexual assault than I am to get shot and die. Call me crazy but it is what it is.
@hughjaanus6680 Because I don’t goto party’s and bars I must be lonely and living in a basement? 😂😂 are you projecting? I’m sorry if your life sucks. I hope it gets better.
I think that he killed her by accident. Some people like to be strangled because it can bring sex onto different level (for both, depending on what they are into). And because they found pictures of her previously being strangled, I think he just didn’t stop in time and she died. Then he panicked and tried to hide it. Doesn’t make it excusable though.
Love that we get full episodes on here.
I find it telling that when they got to his apartment building, he kept walking quickly ahead of her. It gives me chills. RIP Kelly
Sounds like she snorted up a bunch of his cocaine, and didn’t want to “pay” for it. Yeah, that’s a shame.
@@sirvilhelmofyonderland That is a sick comment. There's is no way of knowing what she did in that apartment that night, except what Chris stated that he liked to do cocaine and have sex. He used the drugs to pull off his perverse sexual fantasies! The feeling of pain or fear are diminished by drugs, allowing his dangerous behavior.
Yeah, that shows true guilt.🤪
I noticed that, too. His distance correlates with his attitude that the relationship was really casual. Walking ahead and leaving your date behind is not typically what you do with a date, especially when you're bringing them back to your place and you're the host.
Confirmation bias. You all see some guy “walking ahead” but fail to notice him opening doors for her and pushing elevator buttons. Or that they’re engaged in conversation the entire time.
I'm glad they found her. At least they know what happened to her.
Or do they? There's no evidence of a body in his possession
@@centertonarkansastyrantpatrol She never left his apartment building, never seen walking out on camera.
@@hellzbellz79.1 well that is more believable than other stuff I've heard
@@hellzbellz79.1 didn't they say cameras were only in certain places? That is more reliable than what they said when they said they never saw a body leave but also makes me wonder what parts didn't have cameras to where they'd think maybe she left. I do believe maybe he killed her by accident in sex but he sure didn't act like it if he went and hid the body. The whole story is really confusing because she always came back to him.
@@centertonarkansastyrantpatrol Whether she returned to seeing him or not is not in question. Drug use (cocaine) has a way of affecting one's perception of an event masking pain or fear of a dangerous or scarey situation. Sometimes there is a limited memory of detail. What is sick is that Chris filmed Kelley in a the course of the sex act, and her lying there in an unconscious state having trouble breathing. That is sick. Unfortunately it has been proven that many women return to partners who are physically abusive and end up dead.
That urge she had to leave, The gift of fear
Intuition.
The gift of fear! I love that book!!! Animal instincts and your gut feeling are there for a reason!
Thanks for showing a full episode!
I have no doubt he killed her... Even before they traced his strange behavior after her disappearance.... So there's no doubt they prosecuted and locked up the right guy...
That mom is delusional and it does disgust me when mothers defend their children in this way. She could at least say, he’s wrong but I still love him.
She should be devastated and crying and apologizing for his actions
Correct!!
I don’t understand how mothers like that will do absolutely anything to defend or justify their narcissistic abusive sons.
It's sad that the only person who participated in this FOR Kelly was a woman who self-identified as an "acquaintance", not even a friend.
ETA: and her Yoga dude.
I just started watching & instantly as soon as her “acquaintance” introduced herself that way and then began speaking I immediately found it odd. If I’m hanging out with someone multiple times a week to “touch base” or whatever you wanna call it, we’re close friends. Period. I don’t even get to see my actual best friend that much now that adult lives include families and long work hours. She just seemed cold stating their *friendship* that way imo. I’m already sad to see your comment stating she’s the only one that even participated 😢 I have to agree with you, that is very unfortunate & kind of heartbreaking honestly
Don't forget Mr. Fabulous yoga instructor! He couldn't wait to get his 15 minutes! I couldn't help but laugh when they showed him doing poses. I could almost hear it...Them: "ok, thank you Mr. Yoga man, that's a wrap." Him: "If you want, I could do a few poses for your B-Roll!" Them: "Whatever...Make it quick."🤣
I agree, I was wondering where her family was. But, it made me think that, sadly, that is why she got into this situation.
@@wingolamo 😂 lol
That's true where is the family.I hope others cared I do!
48 hours has the best investigative journalists. I truly enjoy this production! Thank you!
I dated a couple of women who liked to engage in this type of behavior and I stopped seeing them. It creeped me out. Not sure why she kept seeing him after he had done this to her before. And no, I'm not saying it's her fault, but she had some idea of the danger of this behavior if she had engaged in it multiple times and had passed out from it before.
Well, whose fault is it that she kept happily going back for more? Destructive behavior like that will eventually catch up. I also (had?) a friend like that. Dating many ppl at a time, very shady, meeting up at stranger's houses for btm type sex and other stuff. She told me it was "safe". She's been missing now for 6 years. Unfortunately I don't think I'll ever see her again, but that's what happens in such cases.
@@sakurarobloxova5028 wow that's crazy wats ya friend name is there a missing case now so sad I'm sorry
@@jenniferbarry6330 i honestly don't know. Her name is Samantha Treecie Williams. She lived in Cali, Urah, and in Carolina (don't remember which one). She had like strawberry blonde hair, around 34-35 years old, very obese. She had a facebook page, but not anymore. On top of this dangerous lifestyle she had a new druggie boyfriend. I don't know where she is, but Im overseas and cant really do much. So, I honestly dont know what happened.
I met a guy on a dating app. He was a doctor which I verified on the hospital website. We were planning to meet then he told me he was very dominant and liked fetish stuff. I was like nope, block lol.
Good for you. I hope you will always live a good life. Staying away from trouble. Remember to focus of Jesus. He’s is returning soon. God bless !
Kelly was too naive for her own good. It's tragic that so many people just don't "get it" how dangerous it is out there. There are nefarious people lurking around every corner.
BE AWARE of the dangers, and don't put yourself in harm's way ever.
She was murdered by the person she was with last. She got into his place and never got out. I mean...
But it seems like these dating sites are the open portal to danger and they do not really screen people there. I would tell my daughter not to bother with these things and just meet people through other people.
Pretty sure she never met the guy who killed her online, she was out with people she knew that night with him
#VictimBlaming
She was dating this guy for over a year.... I'd say he had earned her trust at that point. Why wouldn't she trust him?
I remember this story. Poor girl didn’t deserve that.
Nobody does.
She went back for more sounds like she enjoyed it.
@@centertonarkansastyrantpatrol You seem to repeat yourself alot. That's th 4th time you made the same comment victim blamer!
@@nobullplease23 Should I do it a 5th?
This case is so disturbing. I can’t imagine how awful it must have been for Kelly. I hope her mother and friends have found some comfort. Knowing that her murderer was the “man” she thought she was in love with.
My niece was reprimanded at school & suspended for bullying a girl. When I asked what happened, my sister defended my niece. I was like, wow- u sound like those parents who refuse to believe ur kid isn’t this sweet, perfect human.
I know ppl will say I’m “victim blaming,” but I’m not. If u see a lot of these cases that aren’t random, there’s so many signs. There’s so many things that the victims do that don’t protect their personal safety & put themselves in positions like this. I mean- coke, weed, alcohol, pills plus being with a dude who chokes u hard. There was the other girl, who had 4 kids by 22 who went out with her friends literally a month after giving birth-who had a DUI, & got into a fight with her friends bc they wanted to leave but she wanted to keep partying. She left with strange men. They went to an apartment. Those young men eventually wanted to go but she wanted to keep partying with the guy in the apt. They left her. She’s dead now. I can name sooo many cases that involve the choices these girls made & even guys. Not victim shaming but I hope women/young girls see these things & learn
How is your niece doing?
Exactly! Well said. ❤❤
True🥂....
Problem is Alcohol impairs rational thinking..🥴
@@seavista4810 So do drugs!
@@gigiis526 Yes...that does too.
Even though..in my response...I had that lady with 4 kids in mind. She couldn't have thought clearly..unless there had been fire to unsnap that foggy mind. So unnecessary..how she had died..Bad choices..indeed!!
Something feels off with Chris’ mom. Just me?
Preposterous statement sir
Well noticed, exceptional work
Your not alone
They really should film cadaver dogs every time they are deployed with their handlers alongside law enforcement for solid proof instead of relying solely on verbal testimony about what the dog alerted on. We don't want Molly's hard work to go to waste. Hope Kelly's family and Zocco's mother are doing ok.
Yes, because otherwise you get an innocent man in prison, like SACO!
They do. :)
@@unmalo2768 did you just say he's innocent? Lol
are we going to lock up people based on what cadaver dogs did and did not ????
@@hlaback They did not in this case. But I agree with the OP, they should have. There shouldn't be anything to hide and leave unnecessary doubt or suspicion.
His mother is unbelievable, wow an excuse for every single thing he did ! What a sad shame
You are allowed to have sex, use drugs & drink. You should try to be aware of the dangers associated with those things, but most importantly, have at least 1 person in your life that you can tell things to. If you meet a man who seems great & turns out to be terrible, don't be ashamed or embarrassed, that experience isn't because you were stupid, its because that man is a scumbag. Keep yourself as safe as possible.
Many of my friends who are single will send me a name, address, picture etc if they are having a secret rendezvous so at least somebody knows where they're at if they don't show up the next day after a first date. In fact I had told some of them before like smartphones when they went somewhere like that to leave a name address and all that inside the vehicle when they left their vehicle.
Exactly!
@@theL0VERSYou and OP are seem like you are good friends to your friends. Cheers to each of you.
Oh be quiet a little bit of weed never killed nobody
@@theL0VERS yeah so you can pick up the body
It’s easier for people to live in denial than it is to face cold hard facts.. Denial is probably where she’s gonna stay publicly; but I guarantee privately; she’ll eventually if not already admit the truth to herself. Then again some people just can’t go there..
Well said ♡
You are a poet and didn’t know it
@jemika bates - The last time I read so many words strung together to say absolutely nothing, was reading the closed captioning to Joe Biden's last speech!
I live in Milwaukee and am VERY familiar with this case and some of the people surrounding it, the yoga instructor is like that kid who sat next to you in some highschool class then when you become a big film star he tells everyone how he knew you personally and how you two were just the best of friends. He did know her, they did talk but he was in no way what so ever a part of her personal life nor did he know any personal details of her prior to all the news coverage about her and her family interviews.
But he wanted his 15 minutes of fame. Look what he can do! He can sit with one leg behind his head!
They probably just wanted to interview in her corner. Sad the only other one was a self-described “acquaintance” who hung out with her several times a week.
Yeah that guy weirded me out... Getting serious creep vibes from him.
I had a feeling about that !! I knew it ! 😭😭😂
Yes! It was so apparent he was milking this!
Rest in peace Kelly.💔
Zocco's mother should be ashamed of herself. Zoccos defence lawyers are ridiculous.Good girl Molly🎯
Why do women tolerate that type of sadistic sex from men? Why do they think that is what they deserve? I will never understand. Such a sad case. Rip Kelly.
Papa was a rolling stone?
I do not, stop judging all women.
Some women get off on it. That’s why they stay. Not saying it’s right but in their mind it is. Great sex is a powerful thing to a lot of people.
My thoughts exactly. They get beat, bruised, pass out of suffocating through violent sex...happily come back for more. Destructive behavior will eventually catch up to you.
@Sakura Robloxova so very true. She didn't deserve the situation. I don't know why she kept going back. Sex makes you stupid and cocaine makes you paranoid
How is it that not one of her coworkers, yoga friends, family members came on to speak for her. Instead we get a fame-hungry yoga teacher and a bar “acquaintance” who provide little detail on what she was like as a person. Seriously not even ONE person could come on who actually knew her?
There is a reason for this. I won’t elaborate on it
U gonna write a book?
@@enigmaticbeing7796 Kelly’s relatives embarrassed of what had been revealed about her life. That why they did not participate in the documentary. Be as it is her family deserves some privacy and respect.
@@johgndavis8159 are you a relative
Maybe they weren’t interested, knowing the nasty comments that are left by many.
This is truly sad. I think about the lack of sound judgement and naiveness I had as a twenty-something woman trying to find my way in addition to seeking potential mates and realize her tragic story could have been anybody’s. Now I’m thirty-something and relish in being a single, independent woman. You just never know who you don’t know fully until something like this unfolds.
Life sucks being single in your 30s. What are you talking about.
@@jeremysmith9694 I’m sorry you feel that way.
Yes but also...those sites dating sites meeting / picking up people are dangerous..What happend to Romance and Real Dating ? These creeps...it's one big sweet shop for them ..and girls ..thinking this is the way to live...Multiple pick ups...then drugs...it's one big disaster...You won't find Love that Way .The Whole brainwashing of youth is so sad...The Awful Bs who created this System of throw away dating...and made their Millions from it...raped and dead bodies litter the floor...
@@mamasshrimp422 He's an average or below-average guy that women ignore. That's what he means by "life sucks." All women seek the top 20 percent of eligible men based on income and status. Ignoring below average males who are sex starved as a result . This is the undoing of the middle class. Designed by globalists to bring down the power of the western countries.
@jeremy ain't it better to be single and alive than to date and be dead. 😢
Thanks to all of you who posted what happened, I always pop in to look at the comments 1st because I can't do the ones that are not solved. The second I saw she got justice I stopped reading but I do appreciate it!
I am additcted to watching these but i cant bring myself to spoil it so i dont read anything. The ones that dont get solved are gut wrenching
The type of denial and blind trust his mother has in her son really shows how he ended up this way
My deepest condolences goes out to Kelly D’s loved ones. 🤲🏽💜
The yoga dude with his foot wrapped around his neck 😂
I couldn’t imagine being a defense attorney…..knowing that probably 75% or more of the time you are defending a guilty person in cases like this one.
Agreed; I don't know how they live with themselves. And I also wonder if - in a case like this specifically - they would honestly want their daughter dating their "innocent" client. SMH
Thank you 48hours for putting this full episode on
Man, dating websites are terrifying.
You gotta meet them somewhere away from home, not use your real name.
Or just don't chance it.
Better to find a community where you can meet people and everyone knows them, and can vouch for them, or not.
Being a woman means you are potentially prey.
It's so unfair and terrifying.
1) Get saved, 2) Don't be slutting around riding the carousel 3) Find a Christian man to marry and you have nothing to worry about.
I met my hubs through a real friend. He convinced me not to use dating sites. It was the same thing all the time. This was over 15 years ago and it seems like this stuff has gotten so much worse! I don't think it is worth the risk. People do meet one another through friends or just socials in church.
Almost every couple I know met on tinder. It's not as creepy as people think. I think it's as dangerous as meeting someone in a bar or club. A real first date should of course always be in public and at daytime.
@@johanna2690 Women make poor decisions and rather than blame themselves, they need to find another object to blame. In the old days it was horoscope signs, or the location, etc. Today it's which dating app. It only serves to highlight the irrationality of women. Newsflash, the same people that are working at your office, or going to your local grocery store are the same people that are on "tinder", "hinge", etc. Women can't seem to grasp that.
There’s a bunch of cases of people who met via friends, got married 30 years later they realized their partners were just serial killers.
Dating sites per se are not the issue. We should learn tho, how to identify some red flags and have a good support system and group of people who can be with us us if anything happens. Being alienated is the worst.
Just living is a risk to be honest
The defense paid a homeless guy to say he saw her. They are dead inside and insufferable at best. Watching their cold empty eyes as they plead his case made me ill. Special place for those people. His mom is awful as well. Sad story.
Agree 👍 sickening .
Unfortunately that's their job. Like it or not
Their job is not to pay witnesses which I am pretty sure they did here. They just dragged that poor old man off the streets!
@@nachoman408 It doesn't HAVE to be their job ... they chose this career field. And they can leave it if they have a conscience and can't look themselves in the mirror the next day.
I don't know who Kelly Dwyer was but of this I am certain, this world lost another beautiful smile. 😢
Video never lies, seen going into room, never seen coming out.
Exactly
but not seen coming out dead either...you can't have it both ways
dead people don't walk
We don’t know ANYONE period. Ppl are full of secrets. I don’t date anyone anymore. I have peace of mind.
@laraoneal7284. Agree wholeheartedly. You see what people allow you to see
I have Kats.... They keep their secrets under the couch
I went to school with a different Kelly Dewyer whom was also killed by her boyfriend as well. She was so outgoing ,funny , amazing athlete. Her boyfriend played college football and claimed that they were wrestling horse playing and she hit her head. He did a couple years for assault I believe . I was just out of school and don’t remember exactly but I remember reading his shocking sentence in the paper .
RIP to her as well 🙏🏼
The defense’s “witness” 😂😂😂
That made me feel sad
They got him a hot breakfast at Mcdonalds for that testimony...
@@Yimvision hahaha!
I like how the defense attorneys are like 'yes we believe this random old man that he saw her when she was still alive at a stoplight but not the cop talking about her dog alerting to decomposing remains in suspect's apt'
Some old homeless drunkard they dragged up off the street, gave him something to eat at KFC and ask him to appear in court to help them win the case. But it didn't work.
Lawyers are paid liars, aren’t they?
That old man as a witness.... was hilarious/ridiculous! LOL!
They were trying so hard 😂 But then again that was their job
I bet the mom paid off the old man. "Half now and half after the trial." They had the money.
When a walking body goes into a room and does not come back out walking, Hmm 🤨 Theres your answer !
true, but she's not seen being carried out dead either...
@@zxcv4090 The bag is tho !!
@@chrispate2788 not the golf bag...they think they see it in the boot, but they don't have him on camera dragging what would be a very heavy golf bag
i lived in mke when this happened & im so glad they ended up finding her body!! rest in peace kelly🙏🏼
The mum Is in so much denial, horrible to see her sat there smiling 🤦🏻♀️ so rude of her
Wow, her coworkers are awesome! 👏
The sooner, the better in these situations.
The man who thinks he saw her could very well be wrong. Seriously I once saw a woman who looked so much like me if I hadn’t been me I would have thought it was me! Seriously very strange experience but I experienced it.
Bee.. I saw myself at a bar about 45 years ago..he looked awkward..like I kinda felt.
He’s Definitely Wrong!!! Many people look like someone else (the old man just wants attention).
I am on a dating site call Badoo...I have a lot of men liking me...But I'm very skeptic... Watching channels like this keeps me informed and awareness of the dangers out there...
The people you most trusted are the ones who can make you disappear forever..
GIRL plz be super careful out there while being on these apps if your gone to still date ( that's your decision) just plz plz take all precautions & make sure u check into all the men's background before making arrangements...Anyways have a wonderful weekend & enjoy u day much love to ya & still have fun just be aware of all u surroundings that's all stay blessed 🙏🥳🧡💜💙💚❤!!
" there are evil people out there."
I would suggest to stop using all dating sites... It's just a meat market... And too dangerous..
That’s OK just look at the amount of husbands and/or wives killing each other over little insurance policies, Chasing after flights of fancy, are cheating and don’t want to take the easy way out instead of say …a divorce or break up… in the words of my mother “get another cat“.
@@armcollector5856 why I am extremely careful...I have blocked a lot of them cause they are mainly into having sex....Others are looking for a side chick with wife and kids at home...Why I am not purely depending on the site to find someone...There are a lot of creepy evil going on in our world today...It plants fear in ones soul...So watching these shows keeps me alarm at the risks out there...
Thank you for the blessings...Have a safe and blessed weekend,to you and family..🙏🏾🙋🏾💕🌅
His mother is despicable. Doesn’t matter that he’s her son. He’s a true monster and she still makes excuses.
I just love this journalist with the cute glasses and beautiful hair! She's fabulous& well spoken.
She's an Asst. DA who prosecuted the case.
@@johanna6050 Oh thank you, I'd misunderstood her role. 👍
@@krisrobb7709
Easy mistake, she’s pretty hip looking for a DA!
The dating world is vicious! Stay safe out there ladies!
Man or woman be safe.
why men in the comments say moms love and mom should support his killer son ????@@richardkronberg4925
How sad that she became involved with this guy. His mom is not able to accept what her son is. May Kelly Dwyer rest in peace 🙏❤️
The Fact the defense tried to argue that there’s no “Evidence “ is WILD‼️
This episode reminds me of the horror of ending up as a subject on 48 HRS. KELLEY DWYER should serve as a warning to young women of the risks of becoming a victim of these online creeps.
She had been dating him for a year
Anyway the advice still applies. these yuppies and their dating sites athletic retail stores city condos and yoga mats are shallow. An exception might be the yoga school flamer. He was sincerely concerned about the young lady and her whereabouts.
They said the dog signaled on the trash chute door. He could have slid the golf bag containing her body down the chute into the dumpster, then parked alongside the dumpster, out of sight of the cameras, to place it in his trunk. The other “athletic” bags obviously contained evidence, such as the shower curtain, towels, rug, cleaning supplies, etc. The cheese shop run was a clear ruse, and buying new shoes was suspicious. She died during dangerous sex, and he panicked. But he robbed her family of answers and closure for many years, just to save his own hide. A perverted coward.
I literally thought the same thing
How do these defense attorneys sleep at night in THIS case 🤬
Welll they get $ so they don’t care
His mother will always be in denial. How many times do we hear, "Not my son, not my child"?
That prosecutor is
A spit fire 🙌 love her and so happy she was on Kelly’s case- well done!
Fly high Kelly!❤
You don't want to tangle with Catwoman.
That cheese was no alibi. He bought it to “cover” the smell in the car. He’d claim that he had forgotten about it and it was just left in car, for God knows how long.
Good point!
A Casey Anthony pizza defense???
How these "defense attorneys" sleep at night is beyond me. They should be ashamed of themselves for trying to explain away the obvious...SMH And his mother is the primary evidence of why he was nurtured into a psychopathic narcissist.
Money.
it's their job. There's mountains of cases where the government insisted some guy was guilty and convinced a jury of it, before they were cleared with DNA evidence. We can't have a justice system where we just accept what the government says. It's a constitutional right that you can pay to have someone advocate for you by giving the best possible defense on your behalf in court.
You wouldn't be saying that if they were defending you. Do you think that every person who the police arrest and even get convicted by juries are guilty? The Innocence Project exists for a reason. There are several troubling problems with this case, and people like you who take what cops says and let them do all the thinking for you are part of the problem.
100 percent. I realize they make great money but I don’t care how much I made I could never live with myself knowing I was working hard to free evil murderers.
Everyone is entitled to a defence. That's a part of justice. The defence attorneys are actually upholding the law for everyone and should be respected for that.
Poor Kelly. She was very attractive and had her whole life ahead of her.
“To conduct a sniff”😂 I’ve never heard this specialist phrase before… What a clever pup Molly is. The animals that live life beside us are true assets!
He put her in the bag and dropped it off the balcony, drove around to the side of the building to retrieve it and threw it in the trunk. Then drove the car back into the garage, pretended nothing happened.
I'm not sure if physics would back that up depending on what floor he lived on? I suppose high enough would cause the bag to burst and that would be extremely messy so unlikely idk
That's what I think as well I mean a living breathing healthy woman walks into u condo & she is not seen coming out I mean what else could've happend? Also I was wondering if they had cameras on the outside of that condo ( they had to of u would think ) bc wonder if they checked them out at all just a thought? Anyways have a wonderful weekend & stay safe out there sending love & peace to u 💚💙❤💜💕💗💓🙏✌!!
I thought that too!
18th floor lol they said it in the video
They had cameras all around, and he lived on the 18th floor, so I think that's unlikely.
@@award89 thanks yes I couldn't remember what they said. It's a better theory on a lower floor
The mother is in the air with her head...but on the other hand I do believe it hard to believe that your son did such a horrible thing.
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To Chris’ mom, if your son was the victim, would you appreciate watching the killer’s mom covering up for him/her?