MAX PAYNE 3 (Zero Punctuation)
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- Опубликовано: 23 окт 2012
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The game went down with practiced bravado. Yellow backgrounds crawled across the sky, laden with foreboding.
Fast-talking Ben "Yahtzee" Croshaw reviews a new game each week in this animated series that combines informed critique with cutting humor. Watch the next episode of Zero Punctuation a week early, only on The Escapist.
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you know what would have lightened the game's mood a bit? At one point while roaming down a corridor, suddenly you go into slow motion without you pressing the button and a random grunt goes flying through the window like he's trying to be Max Payne, shooting you on the way down while missing every shot. but it's better when you do the sequence again for some reason, predict him flying through the window, shoot dodge at the same time so you collide with him in middair and you both lie there spawled on the floor, unconscious.
Daniel Athayde you had to make it weird!
hahahahahahaha it would perfect
They both give a nod of respect as they drift off into unconsciousness.
@@lionocyborg6030 ?
@@lionocyborg6030
They always do once they realise no one thinks they are funny or tell them to piss off.
"A whiskey powered ballistic Missile" xD
I love the nature of his complaints. He travels to Brazil for an easy life as a bodyguard in the sun, and complains that it's not really the life for him going to nightclubs or whatever, and how he'd much rather something exciting happened, then complains when people he doesn't care about get into danger, and he has to do exciting things to help them, because he went to Brazil for an easy life being a bodyguard. Make your mind up man.
To be fair, he went to Brazil because he killed the mob guy's kid and had to run away.
Even MGS 5 has snake holding the default weapons in every cutscene.
+TomLehockySVK Yea and Kaz refers to me as Snake when playing as Flaming Buffalo, who has tits might I add
+GFUNKMW Well, technically you never really play as snake........
Tim Peters I didn´t want to make it a spoiler for those that didn´t had the chance to play it yet.
P.S. .. but he is snake ... Punished Venom Snake.
Sans suppressor, too.
Check the date of the video.
real reason why Yahtzee complains about story is cause he relates too much to Max Payne
I don't think he relates to me at all.
Maxfield Payne .........
+Sameer Reza what?
............. I tell you NOTHING! But I comment by my lack of comment in itself.
+samsaq My brain's trying to escape, you've scared it.
Fun fact: Yahtzee always seems to depict god as the disembodied head of an ocelot.
Ocelots are pretty good
Or an omnipotent cretin.
Fun fact: He likes dolphins... a bit too much.
Some people call him Dolphin Jack... because he once jacked off a dolphin.
Nobody calls him that, Barry.
Playing this 10 years later for the first time. I’m quite thrilled at how violent, depressing and dark it is. Showing the slums of Sao Paolo in full disgusting glory and it’s inhabitants and the seedy things they take part in really drive home how brutal the world actually is and we are in the end violent unhinged animals.
The problem with this game plotwise is the fact that it's supposed to be a redemptive story. The reason such stories are interesting is because they illustrate the process of change, in which a character starts from a dark place in their lives and then in some form or another overcome those conditions. It's the dynamic tension and the gradual change between the feeling of oppression, abjection, loss, depression, deprivation etc. and the cathartic redemption that induce the feeling of emotional high for the audience (Red Dead Redemption, The Last of Us and Silent Hill 2 come to mind). But MP2 already did that story. Much better too, I would add. In MP3 Max's character is just re-set and we are supposed to go through another redemptive story, but it doesn't work as well because 1) It was done already and this feels just forced and 2) Max feels too much of an outsider to everything else that is happening. There is a disconnection between the larger story and it's relation to Max's personal struggles, something that, to me at least, wasn't the problem in MP2. It's a shame too, because this game had many moments that could have been truly great if the story, and therefore the action as well, felt more connected to Max. The "tears-battle" at the airport could have been absolutely exhilarating emotionally if it took place withing a more involving context.
actually yahtzee on that whole cutscene gun thing
halo 2 did that in 2004
I don't think he played Halo 1 or 2. I think he started at 3, which might be why he doesn't like the series. Reach, Halo 1 and Halo 2 were great. Halo 3 was kind of dull, and the new Halo games aren't bad, but they're not great either.
2:03 - 2:16 are possibly my favourite parts of the whole video. Just imagining Yahtzee's reaction to it...
"Close up shop and *shine all those crazy diamonds* "
I have. in fact, seen what you did there, Yahtzee.
The joke
My head
Zurtle The Turtle Looks like someone's never polished the family jewels.
Makerrcat Or listened to Pink Floyd.
anyone else notice that the plot of max payne 3 is basically man on fire?
Not really. Max has no close personal relationship with the person who gets kidnapped
4am
Okay just one more...
It's 7 am... I've been at it for 5 hours... this was supposed to stop after 20 minutes...
+Hendlton ha, you lucky bastards, I've been watching these for three years. I missed my sister's wedding! I missed my child's birth! I missed the sex that conceived my child!
@@taylorstephenson7783 "I missed the sex that conceived my child"
Press F
I'm really glad that I'm not the only one who thinks God is a Cougar head with a thick mustache.
My favorite was getting Fuel Rod Cannons and Energy Swords into cutscenes (which was difficult, because it would always default to the smallest weapon). It was great to watch the Arbiter "aim" his sword at a wraith, and for MC to sling a fuel rod cannon on his shoulder as the Covenant fleet slipped in.
Had a face like a cardboard mask of a bloke attempting to pass a kidney stone with dignity lol
Two discs? I'm guessing that's the 360 version. Oh, good ol' PS3.
you do know that if it has two discs its better... you can get better graphics
Learn Quick ...no, I honestly can't tell if you're joking or not. Two discs as in DVD. Each being around five and a half gig. It's on two discs because of LIMITATIONS.
Learn Quick um.....no it doesnt lol
Learn Quick Woah...You're dumb.
Guys, I think he knows that he was wrong. I mean, he is clearly one to Learn Quick.
Halo 2 had the weapon you were holding in the following cut scene. high five to anyone like me who, in the penultimate Arbiter level, seeked out a plasma pistol so the arbiter would face the Wraith with a crappy gun rather than a fuel rod!
Max Payne 3 was a great fucking game!
I think Max Payne 2 was better.
Matter of opinion.
I know it is and your entitled to it. Though if you have the chance play Max Payne 2. The steam sale is going on so it might be cheap.
MrJetairliner100 I've played all three.
Good man.
"Its hard to tell if an enemy has gone down for the count"
the game has a hitmarker for when you kill an enemy, so how is it hard to tell?
Yeah the whole screen flashes lol
@@jerrodshack7610 Ah, was about to say that Jerrod!
You know, it's only when I watched this ZP that I remembered that I loaned this game to a friend years ago...speaks volumes about it.
Max was a much more likeable protagonist in the first two games, though i can kinda understand why he became more depressed after Mona died. But i don't understand why MP3 suddenly decided to become realistic
***** Yeah. It decided to go with a much more serious and gritty story about the kidnap and murder of a rich family, rather than the pretty silly "the government is making a drug thats turning people into killers and only one lone, rogue, hardboiled cop on the run from the law can stop them". MP2 even had a mission where you escort a man dressed as a super hero
The problem was though - even with Mona dying, the game still ended on a happy note for Max himself
She has brought me here , to this moment of clarity, where time slows down, and I choose to look back, to see myself.
And in that act of seeing, I am reborn.
I had a dream of my wife.
She was dead, but it was all right.
It's completely nonsensical for Max to suddenly become what he was in this game. That said, I acknowledge that bringing him back was not going to be easy - but it would've been better if they simply added a new chapter in Max's tragedy conga line, instead of changing the character into this. Max in the first two games was sympathetic - this Max is someone you just want to shut up.
I liked a lot Max Payne 1, both for the novelty of gameplay but also for the immersion (the continuous reference to Norse mithology/Ragnarok coupled with the continuous snow storm, making you wonder what really was everything about). In Max Payne 3 I was constantly thinking "get daddy to pay for an army to rescue his family and let's get out of here, I am not paid enough for all of this."
@@digitalutopia1 that's rockstar games for you, they suck
I actually thought Max was one of the most likeable aspects of the game.
@@NotHonkyTonk now that's epic
If you get the guns gold. They will also show up gold in the cutscenes!
Hear after Yahtzee left Escapist. What a time to be alive
Max payne 3 is sooooooo underrated
Yes I am
@@anongeneralpublic What a german thing to say.
Me thinks that Yahtzee is a bit like Max Payne with the complaining and antisocialness
*Misanthropy
He was more of a diversion than a fall guy. The baddies plan was to do his thing while the media's attention was fixed on Mr. Payne's killing spree.
I kinda forgot about the diving mechanic because staying behind cover and slowing time to shoot the bad guys in the head when they pop up was a much more effective strategy than falling on the ground in the open surrounded by 20 guys.
Yeah I think that on New York Minute Hardcore I barely ever dived and just used regular bullet time
OH MY GOD YATHZEE HOW DARE YOU??
you pictured him at 4:29 with jack daniel's even tho he only drinks scotch :o
"complaining how he got a 7 10 split" it's lines like this that make me want to watch reviews from Yatzhee even after buying the game XD.
BTW, it's £2.99 on steam at the moment.
That's normal.No one actually takes most of his opinions when buying a game
onled1 out off all people i never disagread with him about the game
Gaming Gangsta - Mod Spotlight's, Tutorial's, Gameplay's & more On this game he was spot on, It's on other games like basically every other Nintendo game and JRPG's that his opinions are near invalid, because he doesn't understand those games nor are they his cup of tea
onled1 i don't play nitendo and i watched most of the games i played
onled1
I value his opinions higher than most reviewers, he is very good at finding the negatives that other reviews would otherwise gloss over.
Also, just because he doesn't like JRPGs or Nitnedo games, it doesn't invalidate his opinions on them. If he reviews a JRPG and recommends it then it shows that it must be a bloody good one.
Fairly heartbreaking analogy at the end there.
One of my main issues with Max Payne 3 is the ability to not save where you wanted to. I loved messing around with the bullet time on the other two but I would at least want to save before doing so, so I don't need to trudge through the same area and shoot the same people again if I die by jumping into a fridge or a TV. I also hated the sheer about of cutscenes. I like some story driven games but not when the pelt you cutscenes with characters who are not memorable and who you do not give a single fuck about.
One of your best reviews mate! "Attempting to pass a kidney stone with dignity" Spot on! xD
"It's rainy in some places, but sunny everywhere else!" Strangely fitting, no?
That Man On Fire joke was pretty spot on !
i dont know why but the hobbo and the dog metaphor at the end is so funny.
Love the coverage!
that simile at the end legitimately bummed me out. well done.
I must say, i totally agree with yahtzee's critique of the story. everything he said is basically right on the money
the part about misjudging the doorway always makes me chuckle and made me laugh my head off first time I saw this.
A Day in the Life of Max Payne: Wakes up, bullet-time make breakfast, eat a bowl of payne killers, read the obituaries ("Everyone Max Payne Loved"), end it at the family reunion at the cemetary.
A Day in the Life of Max Payne
"close up the shop and shine up all those crazy diamonds".
oh, you.
I loved every part of the story, and Max. I felt like the seamless translations between cutscenes and gameplay ensured that they never became tedious, and Max's negativity felt different from your regular knight in shining armor.
I think he literally never gives himself a break in the whole game, except maybe the shaving scene and the last minute where he doesn't say a word?
@@Lucios1995 blud replied to a ten-year-old comment.
Max Payne 3 has the best TPS controls I have ever experienced, tight, precise and rewardingly realistic. Only games that come close are Uncharted 2, the Gears of War franchise and Sniper Elite V2.
I really can't think of how they can be improved much, maybe they can be made to be slightly more realistic in Max Payne 4 e.g. with more realistic bullet drop etc but apart from that, they're perfect. I really hope the next GTA uses the same gun controls, they couldn't have done it with V obviously because of memory limitations but hopefully VI will have similar gun combat.
The big problem here is that -Master SloMo- Max Payne and realism don't mix well.
FrostBandanaDude Max Payne is pretty realistic mate.
Max Payne in 1 and 2 is toung'n'cheekly (not a word, I know, shut up) aware that his quest to put bullets in several hundred mofos partially in bullettime is absolutely ridiculous, it's just 3 where he's an absolute nihilist(also unrealistic given his character development so far).
If you don't see that I will have to question your sanity.
FrostBandanaDude I was talking about the mechanics, like shooting etc - the story of Max Payne isn't as realistic.
Michael Walsh D'oh boy, bullet goes in baddie, baddie dies, yeah that's realistic. Take into account Max can somehow chug down a bottle of pills and hard liquor to fix up that shotgun-blast to the stomach and NOT die, making swandives and not breaking/dislocating every bone in his body.
I prefer having levels you navigate around and can save at any time like in Max Payne 1 and 2 over small sections of checkpoint corridor shooting book ended by cut scenes in Max Payne 3.
0:26 "With Max Payne 3 shooters have finally figured out how to have the main character holding the same guns in cutscenes that he was using in the preceding gameplay"
The defense presents as evidence Goldeneye 007 for the N64 from 1997.
I think Max is the fall guy, since he was unable to prevent the deaths of the other members of the bad guy's family, as planned, and also spent a couple of chapters shooting up civilians. Well, they were armed civilians who were technically gangsters, but he's still removing a significant portion of the population from Brazil when he was supposed to be investigating the whereabouts of the hostages. As for why they chose Max instead of someone else? I'm not sure, actually. Maybe the bad guy wanted someone who seemed competent, so it'd be less suspicious... or maybe the plot's just badly written...
Whatever, Max Complayne feels and plays like an action movie star and that's all I need.
1:22 it sounds like he's almost starting to laugh ;D
Wonderful Job.
R.I.P. In Peace (Rest in R.I.P.) Fallen Angles
Your vertices shall never be forgotten.
Gotta love that mad ocelot god
I recal Mass Effect cutscenes using your party's armor, weapons, and party members
That ending
This is 10 years late but 1:44
No its not
There's a big screen effect & sound effect plus marker on your crosshair when you kill someone. That's 3 ways you can tell if "is there blood flying from his chest/skull" is too difficult lol
I'm happy that you're happy.
This was my second favourite game of 2012
Max Payne 3 is an awesome game and I think it deserves a lot more respect. Mainly for it's great narrative, unique gameplay and it's awesome attention to detail. And even though I hadn't played the first and second, I still understood the story and I could still understand Max's problems, that's why the story was so good.
The narrative isnt great though. Its just a confusing retelling of Man on Fire with some hokey noir dialogue
MCHellshit Well I thought it was good
George lugg It's mixed. It gets a bit complicated, but like any form of media, you have to pay attention to it a lot to really appreciate it.
On that note, I just finished the game again. The airport shootout was BADASS.
A.R.C.H.E.R. True, good point.
And I see what you mean about the airport shootout, that was so badass!
A.R.C.H.E.R. ikr i just loved the airport part
Oh, so Max Payne basically has the Finnish attitude towards life in general, then? xD
It seems so, i felt quite safe around his mental self-abuse. Perkele.
mustekkala Torilla tavataan.
***** Tuskin kun en koskaan käy ulkona :)
mustekkala Se on oikein.
Funny you should mention Finnish, the franchise was originally created by Finnish developers.
yeah, what was the plot? Victor was in league with Cracha Preto and Ufe, being jointly corrupt and selling illegal organs etc., and i guess the main thing was his having his brother killed so that he could get his money...but what was Max's part in it all supposed to be?
Did Victor dupe Comando Sombra into acting as they did, or was their involvement just an unfortunate coincidence for him?
How much did Passos know? Why did he have to go all the way to Hoboken to get Max, instead of hiring a local guy?
What was Max the fall guy for, and in what way? If it was meant to be for Rodrigo's death, i don't remember any (non-corrupt) cops coming after him.
Why did Passos abandon Max at the end of the whole bus station level? He couldn't have waited for another two minutes?
...and i think that's it. Oh, and it's basically a rip-off of Man On Fire...not that that's a bad thing :P
"I had to push on. I didn't understand everything, and I never would, but I knew enough. Sometimes a complicated problem is best tackled with a simple solution."
3:28
Why is there a presumably mexican guy with a sombrero and a bottle of Jose Cuervo?
i missed most of the video because i was laughing at the "crazy diamond"
I had to go back and see what you meant. And now I can't unsee how funny that was
I wept for those angles. Geometry will never be the same again.
Wow that last line about the 3 legged dog depressed me
@Torgo1969 The whole Portuguese thing was intentional: Rockstar wanted you to feel a as isolated and confused as Max is, stuck in a country full of people with whom he can't communicate trying to kill him. It's all about immersion.
I actually liked Max's character in this game. He reminded me of Denzel Washington's character in Man on Fire, but with a more sarcastic view on life.
Can't believe after all these years I missed the 'max complain 3' joke.
oh zero punctuation your endings never disappoint
4:07
Me too when playing good games!!
2:11 Exactly describes my experience with the game.
I *love* the Max Payne original game in whole, I've been subtly smitten with the rest of the games, and as awesome as it was in MP3 to actually see your character have somewhat realistic reactions to diving face first into a wall or desk, I really didn't enjoy the over complicated GTA-character-feeling plot. I haven't enjoyed the plot since the original. It was nice to see him walking into the background at the end of a game, because maybe that could lead to a game not overloaded with way more angst plot-threads than needed for a lovably corny noir plot.
2:04 *!!!*
Is that a windows 10 logo?
You know goldeneye did that holding the same gun in cutscenes thing
whats the theme song called?? like it
Oh come now, Yahtzee. Surely Max damage is not that bad compared to Die Anna.
The drawings in tgis one were the funniest ever.
I remembered it being pretty badass for Master-Chief to hold a rocket launcher finishing a certain mission where the scarab explodes.
0:26 Fucking Postal 2 had that in 2003.
The main difference between max payne 3 and the previous two, is that in the first two, the player actually is in on the trauma - because it happens while we play. Max is also not in pity mode either - he fights to avenge/solve the crime, and that trauma fuels him.
In Max Payne 3, he's just there...incessantly whining. I've never seen a game where the developers fail so hard at understanding the source material- as if the entire design document consisted of "Bullet time with a miserable guy", with orders to never play the originals
Also the fact Max Payne 2 ended with Max forgiving himself for what happened, so him wallowing in self pity again sort of falls flat from a character progression stand point, it’s like he reset.
That ending man. Fuck.
only thing i understood in this video was "max complain 3".
I liked it better when he dove into the window.
Am I the only one who lost their shit at the hobo joke at the end xD
I finished the game. I don't recall hating it.. But then, I don't really recall anything about it so there ya go..
Well, yeah, Max Payne isn't self-aware. He's the Charlie Brown of poor life choices.
I'm actually a defender of the default weapons in cutscene. There might be some humor in seeing my character trying to clearing a room with an FIM-92 Stinger instead of something more sensible like a pistol or an SMG, but I doubt that the loss of immersion is worth it.
Anyone else think this intro music is just awesome?
I Fecking agree !
surprised he didnt mention the cutscenes
It's so funny how ever since this review I noticed holding a different gun than in preceding gameplay in so many different games. Especially in Mass Effect 2. Hell, unless you're a Soldier, you don't even start out with an assault rifle, yet more than half the scenes have you toting one.
*hears opening joke *
Kingdom Hearts: about time you got here
you know funny thing is max payne 3 wasn't the first game where you have he same guns in cutscenes that you had in game, hell Halo 2 did this, the most iconic scene being when chief leaves the destroyed scarab holding whatever gun he had during the mission and there were games before halo too that did it.
But the story of Max Payne has always been ridiculous and over the top. It's about a noirish modern detective who can only speak in metaphors, and stopped giving all fucks after he had his family killed and goes on a rampage healing his wounds with bottles of opioids and diving in slow motion dual wielding 9mms, with no consequences, because he gets saved by the illuminati. Twice.
Rant Alert: I played the first one as a goofy teenager, and the 3rd one in my late 20's, and the self loathing misanthropic struggle against a pointless existence always resonated with me. In fact, by the time 3 hit, I had also moved halfway across the world to escape, and was downing pills and booze like a degenerate (In Brazil of all places, where it's pretty socially acceptable to be having a drink at 7am), after one day I went a little too far, fucked things up royally, and decided to quit cold turkey and fix my shit up while having the mother of all privation syndromes. They nailed the distorted view of the binges and the deprivation pretty well... I just wish they accompanied it with different mechanics. Like increased bullet time because he can focus, but decreased health because his body is kinda dying inside, or something like that. But still, it hit way too close to home, so I hold the series dear to my heart. That isn't to say the critique about the story is right on point. But the gameplay and ambiance are cool.
god looks like a lion with a moustache all along i thought he looked like a pyramid with a bowler hat and a cane
This is one of my favorite games this gen... you don't care about my opinion but whatever
I USED TO LIVE IN DURHAM AND NEVER KNEW THOSE FUCKING THINGS HAPPENED DAMN IT
I'm not sure what to assume after that post!
oh god Mufasa's death seems like a rollercoaster ride with ice cream compared to it
Totally naming my kid max
I always thought Total Overdose did the slow motion shooting thing better. Especially Gun-Slinger's Tale in Mexico.
Way to under rated a game if you ask me.
You'll walk...
WITH A LIMP